Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread Marta Gasper
Caboodle was one of my FB friends..I thought/read someplace there was help at CR. No way one person can cope with that many..many times hoarders do fool the authorities and the public, I've seen it hapen..lets face it; we, even if all we do is take care of the animals, have more complicated

Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread GRAS
It's very sad and unfortunate when someone with really good intentions allows things to go so wrong, doesn't ask for help. But, to be fair, maybe help that was asked for but never materialized..I know how people can be. This also gives other groups a bad name. I have MANY cats, but if donations

Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread Beth
I don't know the full story of the woman in CT, so I can't comment on that, but I've seen people who are heads of rescue organizations who are hoarders. Just because someone has a title does not mean they are OK.   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org  

[Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread GRAS
Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in the 20 years of being involved in cat rescue in Southern CT. There are probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread Beth
The people I'm talking about did spay/neuter had vet references. They had good intentions, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand.   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread Beth
http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of-600-cats#photo-9221699   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread Heather
One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed here) will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely torture and maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much evidence. I

Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread GRAS
When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really

Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread Beth
The problem is, if a hoarder does not get mental treatment, they will do it again. If there is public record of their crimes it makes it easier for good rescues to identify them. I do agree cruelty charges should be great for those torturing animals. Beth  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! 

Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread GRAS
We have so many horror stories on our DNA (Do Not Adopt) list, it's sickening! These people get away with torture, murder, and nothing happens to them. Sometimes cases like this are hyped by the media, to seem worse than they really are. But where are the people who could help when it is needed?

Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread Marta Gasper
Oh yes Heather! Couldn't agree more..a few tortured pets don't attract as much media as a suposedly haven gone bad..not a thought abt the person and why. So a stereotype is created and thast what the media exploits w/o giving a chance to the erso to speak for themselves. Besides a story of this

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread Beth
I rescued 26 cats from a hoarder in an apt here. Most were fixed. Some even had had extensive medical procedures in the past with lengthy vet records. The problem with hoarding is that people start with good intentions, but don't know when to stop. I know she loved the cats, she couldn't stop

Re: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?

2012-03-01 Thread dlgegg
Mine also. hen they hear a strange voice, they are gone.Of course, I als worry tat the trusted person will leave a door open too long and oe or more will make their escape. Once they are out, they wll never return to a stranger. Best thing is to have a friend, someone the cats know come and

Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread dlgegg
I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread dlgegg
I have asked my vet to tak t me if he thinks I am becoming a hoarder. I wish I had a mllion dollars, I would have such a rescue place for all animals, but until then, I feel that my limit is 7 cats both fnancially and physically. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The people I'm