[Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting cat wet the bed

2012-11-05 Thread Martha Walton
The kittens were recently wormed for round worms.  The owner is taking them
to the vet today at 10:30.  The kittens had thrown up  more diarrhea
overnight.

I have another problem that I need help with.  One of my cats peed on the
bed yesterday, urine down to the matress.
I need some odor spray recommendations.
Also, does anybody recommend some kind of waterproof mattress pad cover?


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Were they dewormed?  Shots are one thing but deworming is important even
 if the test for worms is negative.  Most kittens from street moms or who
 have been abandoned have worms.  Deworming is done prophylactically by most
 rescue organizations.

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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 *From:* Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:23 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

 It didn't work on the virus per say, but the fast growing bacteria in
 their gut. I'm wondering if it could be a water change that is making them
 sick?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Wonder how it worked on the virus, or does it work on viruses, too?   Last
 I talked to the vets that treated my kittens (most died), they wouldn't use
 ``controversial'' Tamiflu.   My friend's vet saved her litter that way.


 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Diarrhea control gel by van beek clears it right up if its bacterial. I
 had a lot of cats years ago that had been dumped on me and I could not
 catch them to vaccinate. Pretty soon they all started dying, and it was
 panleuk. I had a bottle of excenel that I had used on my Pygmy goat for
 mastitis. It wasn't labeled for cats at that time but I knew it killed fast
 growing bacteria, like toxic shock. Didn't think I had anything to lose so
 I started hitting everyone up with it and it saved their lives! Fortunately
 the next year in the Plumb Veterinary drug Handbook it was labeled for
 cats. 1 mg per lb. 50 mg per ML just in case you ever need it(-:

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Kathryn  Christiane.
 Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool  no blood in the
 vomit.

 She is feeding them wet food, Friskies/wet and Meow Mix/wet.  I have tried
 to get the kittens to eat Before Grain wet food, but they will not eat it.
 The kittens will lap up a little water, but nothing excessive.  Problem is,
 they walk away and vomit up the water.

 Kittens were eating good Wednesday, Thursday  Friday.  I gave them some
 dry food on Thursday or Friday night, Natures Variety Instinct.  Maybe
 their tummies just didn't like the new food.

 I am very worried, the kittens go back to their home tomorrow AM.  The
 kittens have had the first round of shots  testing.  I have called their
 human parents twice and left two messages.

 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a change of
 food when they came to your house?  
 ** **
 *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
 Of *Martha Walton
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion
 ** **
 I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The kittens
 ate well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned their nose up at
 food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they are both throwing up water.
 Yesterday one of the kittens had diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.
 Both kittens are playful, drinking water and alert, but I am very worried
 about them not eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about
 the vomiting.

 The owner says that both kittens have been tested for all diseases.  I
 have not let the kittens have contact with my 5 house-cats.  Today one of
 my cats had some diarrhea, so I am hoping that the kittens are not getting
 my cats sick..

 Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at 10:00am.

 I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting cat wet the bed

2012-11-05 Thread MaiMaiPG
There are lots of good waterproof mattress pads.  None of mine have an  
issue but I use them anywaythey aren't the plastic crinkledy type  
and are very comfortable.


Odo Ban is my favorite.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Martha Walton wrote:

The kittens were recently wormed for round worms.  The owner is  
taking them to the vet today at 10:30.  The kittens had thrown up   
more diarrhea overnight.


I have another problem that I need help with.  One of my cats peed  
on the bed yesterday, urine down to the matress.

I need some odor spray recommendations.
Also, does anybody recommend some kind of waterproof mattress pad  
cover?



On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com  
wrote:
Were they dewormed?  Shots are one thing but deworming is important  
even if the test for worms is negative.  Most kittens from street  
moms or who have been abandoned have worms.  Deworming is done  
prophylactically by most rescue organizations.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and  
nasty neighbors too!



From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

It didn't work on the virus per say, but the fast growing bacteria  
in their gut. I'm wondering if it could be a water change that is  
making them sick?


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves  
khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:


Wonder how it worked on the virus, or does it work on viruses,  
too?   Last I talked to the vets that treated my kittens (most  
died), they wouldn't use ``controversial'' Tamiflu.   My friend's  
vet saved her litter that way.



On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com  
wrote:
Diarrhea control gel by van beek clears it right up if its  
bacterial. I had a lot of cats years ago that had been dumped on me  
and I could not catch them to vaccinate. Pretty soon they all  
started dying, and it was panleuk. I had a bottle of excenel that I  
had used on my Pygmy goat for mastitis. It wasn't labeled for cats  
at that time but I knew it killed fast growing bacteria, like toxic  
shock. Didn't think I had anything to lose so I started hitting  
everyone up with it and it saved their lives! Fortunately the next  
year in the Plumb Veterinary drug Handbook it was labeled for cats.  
1 mg per lb. 50 mg per ML just in case you ever need it(-:


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Thanks Kathryn  Christiane.
Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool  no blood  
in the vomit.


She is feeding them wet food, Friskies/wet and Meow Mix/wet.  I  
have tried to get the kittens to eat Before Grain wet food, but  
they will not eat it.  The kittens will lap up a little water, but  
nothing excessive.  Problem is, they walk away and vomit up the  
water.


Kittens were eating good Wednesday, Thursday  Friday.  I gave  
them some dry food on Thursday or Friday night, Natures Variety  
Instinct.  Maybe their tummies just didn't like the new food.


I am very worried, the kittens go back to their home tomorrow AM.   
The kittens have had the first round of shots  testing.  I have  
called their human parents twice and left two messages.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com 
 wrote:
Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a  
change of food when they came to your house?


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On  
Behalf Of Martha Walton

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The  
kittens ate well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned  
their nose up at food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they  
are both throwing up water.  Yesterday one of the kittens had  
diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.  Both kittens are playful,  
drinking water and alert, but I am very worried about them not  
eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about the  
vomiting.


The owner says that both kittens have been tested for all  
diseases.  I have not let the kittens have contact with my 5  
house-cats.  Today one of my cats had some diarrhea, so I am  
hoping that the kittens are not getting my cats sick..


Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at  
10:00am.


I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting cat wet the bed

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
Just an FYI, just about any waterproof mattress cover you get will
involve plastic/rubberized plastic in order to be - waterproof.  You
will find it reflects your body heat which is great in the winter but
can sometimes be a bit warm in the summer!  I even tried putting two
fitted sheets on the mattress over the top of the cover.  But for an
Ohio winter it is as good as having an electric blanket!

kat

PS.  Oz and Miss Kitty are doing well altho both are disinclined to
leave the master bath.  Oz tried it once and freaked out when one of
my dogs, Polar Bear, wanted to chase and play like he does with my
other cats.  Of course, Polar Bear is about 75# with a mass of long
white fur (kindof like a white chow chow) so that could have been part
of it.  Had to wrap Oz in a sweatshirt and take him hissing and
howling back to the bathroom!

k

On 11/5/12, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are lots of good waterproof mattress pads.  None of mine have an
 issue but I use them anywaythey aren't the plastic crinkledy type
 and are very comfortable.

 Odo Ban is my favorite.
 On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Martha Walton wrote:

 The kittens were recently wormed for round worms.  The owner is
 taking them to the vet today at 10:30.  The kittens had thrown up 
 more diarrhea overnight.

 I have another problem that I need help with.  One of my cats peed
 on the bed yesterday, urine down to the matress.
 I need some odor spray recommendations.
 Also, does anybody recommend some kind of waterproof mattress pad
 cover?


 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 Were they dewormed?  Shots are one thing but deworming is important
 even if the test for worms is negative.  Most kittens from street
 moms or who have been abandoned have worms.  Deworming is done
 prophylactically by most rescue organizations.

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and
 nasty neighbors too!


 From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

 It didn't work on the virus per say, but the fast growing bacteria
 in their gut. I'm wondering if it could be a water change that is
 making them sick?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves
 khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wonder how it worked on the virus, or does it work on viruses,
 too?   Last I talked to the vets that treated my kittens (most
 died), they wouldn't use ``controversial'' Tamiflu.   My friend's
 vet saved her litter that way.


 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Diarrhea control gel by van beek clears it right up if its
 bacterial. I had a lot of cats years ago that had been dumped on me
 and I could not catch them to vaccinate. Pretty soon they all
 started dying, and it was panleuk. I had a bottle of excenel that I
 had used on my Pygmy goat for mastitis. It wasn't labeled for cats
 at that time but I knew it killed fast growing bacteria, like toxic
 shock. Didn't think I had anything to lose so I started hitting
 everyone up with it and it saved their lives! Fortunately the next
 year in the Plumb Veterinary drug Handbook it was labeled for cats.
 1 mg per lb. 50 mg per ML just in case you ever need it(-:

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Kathryn  Christiane.
 Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool  no blood
 in the vomit.

 She is feeding them wet food, Friskies/wet and Meow Mix/wet.  I
 have tried to get the kittens to eat Before Grain wet food, but
 they will not eat it.  The kittens will lap up a little water, but
 nothing excessive.  Problem is, they walk away and vomit up the
 water.

 Kittens were eating good Wednesday, Thursday  Friday.  I gave
 them some dry food on Thursday or Friday night, Natures Variety
 Instinct.  Maybe their tummies just didn't like the new food.

 I am very worried, the kittens go back to their home tomorrow AM.
 The kittens have had the first round of shots  testing.  I have
 called their human parents twice and left two messages.

 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
  wrote:
 Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a
 change of food when they came to your house?

 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
 Behalf Of Martha Walton
 Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

 I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The
 kittens ate well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned
 their nose up at food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they
 are both throwing up water.  Yesterday one of the kittens had
 diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.  Both kittens are playful,
 drinking water and alert, but I am 

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
Thanks all.

Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.

I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.

Kat

On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
 vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
 to get her exam and vaccinations.

 Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
 Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
 jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
 were here first - or something!

 So far they are both doing well.

 Kat


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Martha Walton
Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals  their humans.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks all.

 Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
 I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
 drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
 bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
 tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
 everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.

 I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.

 Kat

 On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
  vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
  to get her exam and vaccinations.
 
  Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
  Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
  jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
  were here first - or something!
 
  So far they are both doing well.
 
  Kat
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get 
used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's 
sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad idea 
once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and never 
spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid odor that 
accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are neutered and 
all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be washed off with lemon 
detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my enthusiastic sprayers gave it 
up after they realized that they were living with a family of rescued cats, no 
one was their enemy any more and they didn't have to set territorial 
boundaries.  Now they stick to having a hissy fit occasionally, maybe a face 
slapping contest but I haven't had a real battle or full wall spray job in over 
two years.  My problem here is that lots
 of the cats think outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a 
plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a plastic 
bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and pail time and 
the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For this I needed a 
college degree.


 
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too!






 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
 

Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks 
everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals  their humans.


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks all.

Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.

I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.

Kat

On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
 vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
 to get her exam and vaccinations.

 Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
 Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
 jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
 were here first - or something!

 So far they are both doing well.

 Kat


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[Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans

For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults 
with bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With 
all the cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem 
with at least one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my 
hair out and dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly 
mom's disposable mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't 
incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in 
case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the 
washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the bed was 
her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress 
cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it
 and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to
 feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types 
and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are 
disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make up the 
bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over
 the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an 
accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for 
sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would
 recommend an enzyme type odor eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which
 you can purchase at PetsMart.  It doesn't have any added scent as a 
cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the odor of cat pee to those awful
 perfumes
 they dump into deodorizers.  When you use the enzyme type deodorizer, 
you have to make sure the spot stays wet for at least 24 hours.  If it 
dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
with. There are many brands and many prices.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread PandieAnn

 
i use waterproof rubber sheeting purchased at joann's fabric store.   Looks 
like white cotton and works like magic.  cover furniture with  it.  then 
just throw in the washer when someone misbehaves.  I buy by  the bolts.  
jo'ann's has coupons 50-60% off so well worth it.  nothing  ever seeps through.
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread Marcia Baronda
Fizzion works and so does Anti Icky Poo which comes scented or non-scented(-:

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the 
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with 
 bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the 
 cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least 
 one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and dumping 
 the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable mattress 
 pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she couldn't walk so 
 needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I 
 purchased several of the washable types when one of my very old cats began 
 thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered 
 waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it 
 and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a mistake, 
 sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer 
 after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to feel you are 
 being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types and either toss 
 into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are disposable.  The washable 
 are more economical. You can even make up the bed in the morning and then put 
 a fitted waterproof mattress topper over the whole thing to keep everything 
 good while you are gone.  If an accident happens, you just whisk the cover 
 off and you are ready for sleeping in the bed.
 
 For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor 
 eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It 
 doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the 
 odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When 
 you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays wet 
 for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and 
 the enzyme doesn't work.
 You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
 with. There are many brands and many prices.
 
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread Marcia Baronda
Oh and someone told me that with the enzymatic cleaners like anti icky poo, to 
keep a moist cloth over the treated area so that it doesn't dry out.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 5, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the 
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with 
 bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the 
 cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least 
 one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and dumping 
 the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable mattress 
 pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she couldn't walk so 
 needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I 
 purchased several of the washable types when one of my very old cats began 
 thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered 
 waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it 
 and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a mistake, 
 sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer 
 after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to feel you are 
 being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types and either toss 
 into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are disposable.  The washable 
 are more economical. You can even make up the bed in the morning and then put 
 a fitted waterproof mattress topper over the whole thing to keep everything 
 good while you are gone.  If an accident happens, you just whisk the cover 
 off and you are ready for sleeping in the bed.
 
 For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor 
 eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It 
 doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the 
 odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When 
 you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays wet 
 for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and 
 the enzyme doesn't work.
 You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
 with. There are many brands and many prices.
 
  
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 neighbors too!
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
Hey, I never realized that.  This will be awesome for car seats if I ever get a 
car and go back to doing TNR!  It's also great for my new futon.  Most of my 
waterproof pads have been over washed and have cracks that can leak through.  
Thanks for the information.


 
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too!






 From: pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat
 

 
i use waterproof rubber sheeting purchased at joann's fabric store.  
Looks like white cotton and works like magic.  cover furniture with 
it.  then just throw in the washer when someone misbehaves.  I buy by 
the bolts.  jo'ann's has coupons 50-60% off so well worth it.  nothing 
ever seeps through.
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[Felvtalk] Bedwetting cat solution

2012-11-05 Thread Martha Walton
Went to the store that the mattress came from.  They sold me a waterproof
cover for $40.
I got one for both of the beds in the house.  The man says it works great
for pet problems.  I put the cover under the mattress pad.  I hope it works.

I put vinegar/water on the soiled spot and it dried quickly with the
ceiling fan on high.

We have a recently adopted cat and there are some battles going on in the
house.  I might try the feliway diffuser.

Oh, also I wanted to add that my couch is covered with carpet protector
that is held onto the couch with upholstery Twist Pins.  On top of that are
two slipcovers.  That's how I have my couch protected.  It's pretty comfy.

Who was that on this board who said to let the cats have the house and the
humans can live in the closets?  ha ha ha



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:


 For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with
 bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the
 cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least
 one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and
 dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable
 mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
 couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the
 mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of
 my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also
 purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted
 mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine
 if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing
 alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer,
 if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top
 removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if
 they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make
 up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper
 over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an
 accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for
 sleeping in the bed.

 For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor
 eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It
 doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the
 odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When
 you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays
 wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial
 bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
 You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come
 up with. There are many brands and many prices.


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[Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread PandieAnn


 
  

 From: pandie...@aol.com
To: marthawal...@gmail.com
Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting



Rubber Sheeting White 
# 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this is 
the #) 
reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.   
Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found white 
in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on or 
people just don't know about it .   
I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.  People 
loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my 
mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.  I 
would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.  comes 
out 
like new after washing  and putting in dryer.   
A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.
 
 
In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
marthawal...@gmail.com writes:

Hello-
I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you 
could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.  
_http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_ 
(http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48) 

It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the  
material.

Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much  
easier.

Martha



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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
Lee,

I don't think Oz is going to end up being a sprayer but we will have
to wait and see how he handles it once he come out of solitude and,
hopefully, begins interacting with the other cats.  I suspect he may
end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.

As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in
the bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat
marker. Right on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I
found that a mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to
neutralize the odor so it isn't tempting for the other cats.

As for Polar Bear, he doesn't see cats as snacks, he sees them as
another version of a squeaky play toy that self motivates - FAST - and
he loves it.  The other cats are, for the most part, used to it but Oz
showed no sense of humor and no desire to play the first time around.
Again, time will tell.

k

On 11/5/12, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get
 used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's
 sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad
 idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and
 never spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid
 odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are
 neutered and all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be
 washed off with lemon detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my
 enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they realized that they were living
 with a family of rescued cats, no one was their enemy any more and they
 didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  Now they stick to having a hissy
 fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping contest but I haven't had a real
 battle or full wall spray job in over two years.  My problem here is that
 lots
  of the cats think outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a
 plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a
 plastic bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and
 pail time and the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For
 this I needed a college degree.



 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!






 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty


Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
 everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals  their humans.


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks all.

Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.

I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.

Kat

On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
 vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
 to get her exam and vaccinations.

 Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
 Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
 jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
 were here first - or something!

 So far they are both doing well.

 Kat


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
PandieAnn

that is a great idea on the Joann's rubber sheeting but I don't see
how you can buy it by the bolt!  I checked on it and it is $15 for 1yd
x 36 wide (3' x 3').  I have to drive over an hour for the nearest
store but it I will probably go buy a couple of yards at least when my
next SS check comes!

I have a mattress protector on my bed and it is Ohio wintertime right
now so I am good to go on that but the sheeting will be great for the
back seat of the car and the cargo area on the Blazer!!!

Thanks

k

On 11/5/12, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hey, I never realized that.  This will be awesome for car seats if I ever
 get a car and go back to doing TNR!  It's also great for my new futon.  Most
 of my waterproof pads have been over washed and have cracks that can leak
 through.  Thanks for the information.



 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!






 From: pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat



i use waterproof rubber sheeting purchased at joann's fabric store.
 Looks like white cotton and works like magic.  cover furniture with
 it.  then just throw in the washer when someone misbehaves.  I buy by
 the bolts.  jo'ann's has coupons 50-60% off so well worth it.  nothing
 ever seeps through.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???

k

On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com wrote:




 
  From: pandie...@aol.com
 To: marthawal...@gmail.com
 Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
 Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting



 Rubber Sheeting White
 # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this is
 the #)
 reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.
 Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found white
 in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on or

 people just don't know about it .
 I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.  People

 loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my
 mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.  I
 would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.  comes
 out
 like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
 A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.


 In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 marthawal...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello-
 I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
 I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you
 could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.
 _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
 (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)

 It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
 material.

 Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much
 easier.

 Martha





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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread Martha Walton
I get JoAnn's coupons from joining their VIP customer rewards.  Also, look
online http://dealspl.us/joann-coupons

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???

 k

 On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
   From: pandie...@aol.com
  To: marthawal...@gmail.com
  Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
  Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting
 
 
 
  Rubber Sheeting White
  # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this
 is
  the #)
  reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.
  Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found
 white
  in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on
 or
 
  people just don't know about it .
  I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.
  People
 
  loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my
  mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.
  I
  would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.
  comes
  out
  like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
  A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.
 
 
  In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
  marthawal...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Hello-
  I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
  I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you
  could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.
  _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
  (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)
 
  It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
  material.
 
  Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much
  easier.
 
  Martha
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread pandieann
join their website or i get them from store mailing list ALL the time.  I can 
email to you



-Original Message-
From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting


So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???
k
On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com wrote:




 
  From: pandie...@aol.com
 To: marthawal...@gmail.com
 Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
 Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting



 Rubber Sheeting White
 # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this is
 the #)
 reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.
 Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found white
 in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on or

 people just don't know about it .
 I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.  People

 loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my
 mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.  I
 would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.  comes
 out
 like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
 A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.


 In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 marthawal...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello-
 I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
 I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you
 could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.
 _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
 (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)

 It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
 material.

 Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much
 easier.

 Martha




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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat

2012-11-05 Thread pandieann
you can buy on line.  they usually have free shipping.  any donation goes to 
rubber sheeting.  my instanity is important!!



-Original Message-
From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:41 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat


PandieAnn
that is a great idea on the Joann's rubber sheeting but I don't see
ow you can buy it by the bolt!  I checked on it and it is $15 for 1yd
 36 wide (3' x 3').  I have to drive over an hour for the nearest
tore but it I will probably go buy a couple of yards at least when my
ext SS check comes!
I have a mattress protector on my bed and it is Ohio wintertime right
ow so I am good to go on that but the sheeting will be great for the
ack seat of the car and the cargo area on the Blazer!!!
Thanks
k
On 11/5/12, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hey, I never realized that.  This will be awesome for car seats if I ever
 get a car and go back to doing TNR!  It's also great for my new futon.  Most
 of my waterproof pads have been over washed and have cracks that can leak
 through.  Thanks for the information.



 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!






 From: pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat



i use waterproof rubber sheeting purchased at joann's fabric store.
 Looks like white cotton and works like magic.  cover furniture with
 it.  then just throw in the washer when someone misbehaves.  I buy by
 the bolts.  jo'ann's has coupons 50-60% off so well worth it.  nothing
 ever seeps through.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
I think they have them online.  I deleted all the ads from JoAnn stores because 
I don't sew but didn't realize they sell rubberized sheeting.



 
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 From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting
 
So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???

k

On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com wrote:




 
  From: pandie...@aol.com
 To: marthawal...@gmail.com
 Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
 Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting



 Rubber Sheeting White
 # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this is
 the #)
 reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.
 Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found white
 in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on or

 people just don't know about it .
 I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.  People

 loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my
 mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.  I
 would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.  comes
 out
 like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
 A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.


 In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 marthawal...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello-
 I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
 I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you
 could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.
 _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
 (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)

 It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
 material.

 Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much
 easier.

 Martha





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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
While we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his 
owner's lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes 
out for 2 or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground 
to do their thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the 
sunshine.  My problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being 
outside all day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let 
him out he waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet 
of me.  I can see it on his face, I said I want out!  Let me out or I will 
spray everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock 
theings down.  I have never seen this problem on My Cat From Hell.  Usually 
bad behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly.
 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Lee,
 
 I don't think Oz is going to end up being a sprayer but we will have
 to wait and see how he handles it once he come out of solitude and,
 hopefully, begins interacting with the other cats.  I suspect he may
 end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.
 
 As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the
 bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in
 the bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat
 marker. Right on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I
 found that a mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to
 neutralize the odor so it isn't tempting for the other cats.
 
 As for Polar Bear, he doesn't see cats as snacks, he sees them as
 another version of a squeaky play toy that self motivates - FAST - and
 he loves it.  The other cats are, for the most part, used to it but Oz
 showed no sense of humor and no desire to play the first time around.
 Again, time will tell.
 
 k
 
 On 11/5/12, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
  If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get
  used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's
  sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad
  idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and
  never spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid
  odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are
  neutered and all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be
  washed off with lemon detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my
  enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they realized that they were living
  with a family of rescued cats, no one was their enemy any more and they
  didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  Now they stick to having a hissy
  fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping contest but I haven't had a real
  battle or full wall spray job in over two years.  My problem here is that
  lots
   of the cats think outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a
  plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a
  plastic bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and
  pail time and the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For
  this I needed a college degree.
 
 
 
  Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
  neighbors too!
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
 
 
 Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
  everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals  their humans.
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks all.
 
 Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
 I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
 drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
 bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
 tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
 everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.
 
 I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.
 
 Kat
 
 On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
  vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
  to get her exam and vaccinations.
 
  Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
  Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
  jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
  were here first - or something!
 
  So far they are both doing well.
 
  Kat
 
 
 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting cat solution

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
Re:  Harley  I have a Felway diffuser going 24hrs a day and even bought a cd of 
music that is supposed to CALM animals.  It is great for putting me to sleep 
at night, but has no effect on Harley.


 Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Went to the store that the mattress came from.  They sold me a waterproof
 cover for $40.
 I got one for both of the beds in the house.  The man says it works great
 for pet problems.  I put the cover under the mattress pad.  I hope it works.
 
 I put vinegar/water on the soiled spot and it dried quickly with the
 ceiling fan on high.
 
 We have a recently adopted cat and there are some battles going on in the
 house.  I might try the feliway diffuser.
 
 Oh, also I wanted to add that my couch is covered with carpet protector
 that is held onto the couch with upholstery Twist Pins.  On top of that are
 two slipcovers.  That's how I have my couch protected.  It's pretty comfy.
 
 Who was that on this board who said to let the cats have the house and the
 humans can live in the closets?  ha ha ha
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
  adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with
  bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the
  cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least
  one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and
  dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable
  mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
  couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the
  mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of
  my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also
  purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted
  mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine
  if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing
  alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer,
  if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top
  removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if
  they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make
  up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper
  over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an
  accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for
  sleeping in the bed.
 
  For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor
  eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It
  doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the
  odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When
  you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays
  wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial
  bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
  You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come
  up with. There are many brands and many prices.
 
 
  Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
  neighbors too!
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have someone construct an 
outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley needs a little change of 
scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem cats as well as the overflow 
from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to watch birds, deer, coons and 
other critters from the enclosure because they feel that they are outside.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
 
While we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his 
owner's lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes 
out for 2 or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground 
to do their thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the 
sunshine.  My problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being 
outside all day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to 
let him out he waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 
feet of me.  I can see it on his face, I said I want out!  Let me out or I 
will spray everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly 
knock theings down.  I have never seen this problem on My Cat From Hell.  
Usually bad behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a 
loving home with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, 
like a Savannah, jumps so high he hts
 his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or fly.
 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Lee,
 
 I don't think Oz is going to end up being a sprayer but we will have
 to wait and see how he handles it once he come out of solitude and,
 hopefully, begins interacting with the other cats.  I suspect he may
 end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.
 
 As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the
 bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in
 the bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat
 marker. Right on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I
 found that a mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to
 neutralize the odor so it isn't tempting for the other cats.
 
 As for Polar Bear, he doesn't see cats as snacks, he sees them as
 another version of a squeaky play toy that self motivates - FAST - and
 he loves it.  The other cats are, for the most part, used to it but Oz
 showed no sense of humor and no desire to play the first time around.
 Again, time will tell.
 
 k
 
 On 11/5/12, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
  If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get
  used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's
  sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad
  idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and
  never spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid
  odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are
  neutered and all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be
  washed off with lemon detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my
  enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they realized that they were living
  with a family of rescued cats, no one was their enemy any more and they
  didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  Now they stick to having a 
  hissy
  fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping contest but I haven't had a real
  battle or full wall spray job in over two years.  My problem here is that
  lots
   of the cats think outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a
  plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a
  plastic bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and
  pail time and the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For
  this I needed a college degree.
 
 
 
  Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
  neighbors too!
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
 
 
 Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
  everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals  their humans.
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks all.
 
 Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
 I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
 drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
 bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
 tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread MaiMaiPG

I got a water proof mattress pad from WalMart.

On Nov 5, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

I think they have them online.  I deleted all the ads from JoAnn  
stores because I don't sew but didn't realize they sell rubberized  
sheeting.



Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and  
nasty neighbors too!



From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???

k

On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com wrote:




 
  From: pandie...@aol.com
 To: marthawal...@gmail.com
 Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
 Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting



 Rubber Sheeting White
 # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link  
this is

 the #)
 reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their  
coupons.
 Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only  
found white
 in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it  
caught on or


 people just don't know about it .
 I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best  
sellers.  People


 loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used  
on my
 mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly  
parents.  I
 would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).  I guarantee  
100%.  comes

 out
 like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
 A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.


 In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 marthawal...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello-
 I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
 I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if  
you
 could find it on their website for me and send me back the name  
or  link.

 _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
 (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)

 It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
 material.

 Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much,  
much

 easier.

 Martha





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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
-i THINK i WILL HAVE TO DO THAT!  Had 20 acres logged this year and think I am 
going to have to spedn all my earnings on Harley.  Right now, he is coming in 
and jumping on the desk, then off, then on, than off.  He either wants out, 
attention or food.  Can't go out because it is 42, raining and windy.  Don't 
want a big vet bill and have to give him meds.  He is not a good patient!  
Maybe I will take a nap.  Especially if I turn on the electric blanket.  Then 
he will quiet down.  It is only when I am up and home that he does this.  When 
I am gone, nothing happens.  It cannot be that he wants to be held and loved, 
he only tolerates that mushy stuff for a minute or two, then wants down.







--- Lee Evans wrote:  Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty neighbors too!   From: 
dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, 
November 5, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty  While 
we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 2 
or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do their 
thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My 
problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being outside all 
day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let him out he 
waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I 
can see it on his face, I said I want out!  Let me out or I will spray 
everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock theings 
down.  I have never seen this problem on My Cat From Hell.  Usually bad 
behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts  his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly.  katskat1 wrote:  Lee,   I don't think Oz is going to end up 
being a sprayer but we will have  to wait and see how he handles it once he 
come out of solitude and,  hopefully, begins interacting with the other 
cats.  I suspect he may  end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.  
 As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the  
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in  the 
bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat  marker. Right 
on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I  found that a 
mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to  neutralize the odor 
so it isn't tempting for the other cats.   As for Polar Bear, he doesn't 
see cats as snacks, he sees them as  another version of a squeaky play toy 
that self motivates - FAST - and  he loves it.  The other cats are, for the 
most part, used to it but Oz  showed no sense of humor and no desire to play 
the first time around.  Again, time will tell.   k   On 11/5/12, Lee 
Evans wrote:   If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will 
eventually get   used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and 
spraying, it's   sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole 
thing as a bad   idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a 
loving human and   never spray again. Like I said in another post on this 
topic, the horrid   odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally 
disappears once they are   neutered and all that you are left with is a 
spritz of pee that can be   washed off with lemon detergent or something 
else pleasant.  Most of my   enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they 
realized that they were living   with a family of rescued cats, no one was 
their enemy any more and they   didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  
Now they stick to having a hissy   fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping 
contest but I haven't had a real   battle or full wall spray job in over two 
years.  My problem here is that   lots    of the cats think outside of 
the box.  This is an issue that calls for a   plastic paint scraper to pick 
up the offering and a bucket lined with a   plastic bag to drop it in.  
After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and   pail time and the house is 
back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For   this I needed a college 
degree. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty   neighbors too!
   From: Martha Walton  To: 

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
OOPS!  just realized this was not about Harley, but it sure can apply to him.


--- Lee Evans wrote:  Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty neighbors too!   From: 
dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, 
November 5, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty  While 
we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 2 
or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do their 
thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My 
problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being outside all 
day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let him out he 
waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I 
can see it on his face, I said I want out!  Let me out or I will spray 
everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock theings 
down.  I have never seen this problem on My Cat From Hell.  Usually bad 
behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts  his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly.  katskat1 wrote:  Lee,   I don't think Oz is going to end up 
being a sprayer but we will have  to wait and see how he handles it once he 
come out of solitude and,  hopefully, begins interacting with the other 
cats.  I suspect he may  end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.  
 As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the  
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in  the 
bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat  marker. Right 
on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I  found that a 
mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to  neutralize the odor 
so it isn't tempting for the other cats.   As for Polar Bear, he doesn't 
see cats as snacks, he sees them as  another version of a squeaky play toy 
that self motivates - FAST - and  he loves it.  The other cats are, for the 
most part, used to it but Oz  showed no sense of humor and no desire to play 
the first time around.  Again, time will tell.   k   On 11/5/12, Lee 
Evans wrote:   If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will 
eventually get   used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and 
spraying, it's   sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole 
thing as a bad   idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a 
loving human and   never spray again. Like I said in another post on this 
topic, the horrid   odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally 
disappears once they are   neutered and all that you are left with is a 
spritz of pee that can be   washed off with lemon detergent or something 
else pleasant.  Most of my   enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they 
realized that they were living   with a family of rescued cats, no one was 
their enemy any more and they   didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  
Now they stick to having a hissy   fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping 
contest but I haven't had a real   battle or full wall spray job in over two 
years.  My problem here is that   lots    of the cats think outside of 
the box.  This is an issue that calls for a   plastic paint scraper to pick 
up the offering and a bucket lined with a   plastic bag to drop it in.  
After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and   pail time and the house is 
back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For   this I needed a college 
degree. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty   neighbors too!
   From: Martha Walton  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty  Kat, you have 
such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks   everybody in 
this group for being so supportive to animals  their humans.  
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1 wrote:Thanks all.  
  Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  
When  I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did 
was  drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the  
bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog  
tried to chase him, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

2012-11-05 Thread Kathryn Green
I went on line and now am a preferred customer altho so far all I have
found or received is a 20% off coupon. I will check coupon sites. Thanks
all.

Kat

pandie...@aol.com wrote:

join their website or i get them from store mailing list ALL the time.  I
can email to you


-Original Message-
From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???

k

On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com pandie...@aol.com wrote:




 
  From: pandie...@aol.com
 To: marthawal...@gmail.com
 Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
 Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting



 Rubber Sheeting White
 # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this is
 the #)
 reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.
 Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found white
 in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on or

 people just don't know about it .
 I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.  People

 loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my
 mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.  I
 would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.  comes
 out
 like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
 A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.


 In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 marthawal...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello-
 I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
 I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you
 could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.
 _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
 (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)

 It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
 material.

 Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much
 easier.

 Martha





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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting cat solution

2012-11-05 Thread Marcia
The Sentry calming collars work very well. That have the same pheromones as the 
feliway. But they wear them(-:

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2012, at 2:46 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Re:  Harley  I have a Felway diffuser going 24hrs a day and even bought a cd 
 of music that is supposed to CALM animals.  It is great for putting me to 
 sleep at night, but has no effect on Harley.
 
 
  Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Went to the store that the mattress came from.  They sold me a waterproof
 cover for $40.
 I got one for both of the beds in the house.  The man says it works great
 for pet problems.  I put the cover under the mattress pad.  I hope it works.
 
 I put vinegar/water on the soiled spot and it dried quickly with the
 ceiling fan on high.
 
 We have a recently adopted cat and there are some battles going on in the
 house.  I might try the feliway diffuser.
 
 Oh, also I wanted to add that my couch is covered with carpet protector
 that is held onto the couch with upholstery Twist Pins.  On top of that are
 two slipcovers.  That's how I have my couch protected.  It's pretty comfy.
 
 Who was that on this board who said to let the cats have the house and the
 humans can live in the closets?  ha ha ha
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with
 bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the
 cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least
 one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and
 dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable
 mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
 couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the
 mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of
 my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also
 purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted
 mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine
 if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing
 alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer,
 if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top
 removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if
 they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make
 up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper
 over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an
 accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for
 sleeping in the bed.
 
 For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor
 eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It
 doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the
 odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When
 you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays
 wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial
 bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
 You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come
 up with. There are many brands and many prices.
 
 
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM QUESTIONS/ OUTCOME - NOV 5

2012-11-05 Thread dot winkler
Hi Everyone.  I am happy to say that all the cats in the Farmingdale colony are 
okay from the storm.  We are inland and they are in farmland area so not many 
trees.  Their houses held up, thank goodness.  Thanks for the concern and 
support.  



 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: kat merrykatme...@email.com 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply
 
-I am praying for all the east coast, especially the animals.  They have to 
rely on humans to do for them.  I think that I would gather them all up and 
head for high ground if I knew something like this was coming.  Have to have 
lots of have a haeart traps tho.



--- kat  wrote:  Dot,   Your husband sounds like a real kitty lover too!! 
The shelters he has put together sound great and I hope the kitties weather the 
storm safely.   I have been told that there is a high pressure system out in 
the Atlantic (near Iceland?) that is preventing Sandy from going out to sea. So 
I have been sending dissipate prayers to that system so that Sandy can change 
direction before making landfall this evening!! I'm located in the northwest 
corner of NJ, so I shouldn't get hit, but losing power is always a concern.  
 Your kitties are in my prayers!!   Kat (Mew Jersey)  - Original 
Message -  From: dot winkler  Sent: 10/28/12 09:11 PM  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply  
 I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland So, you are in New York? Or is that near Long 
Island? Do you have any outdoor colonies? My hub over the last year has built 
small dog house type shelters (he is a
 carpenter) with tarping on the rooves. They are surrounded by tee pee pallets 
piled on each other. Then covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his 
staple gun. There are piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the 
houses are within those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just 
filled tonight. I just still am very worried. Hoping they will be okay. What 
experiences have you had with storms and the cats? 
 From: Christiane Biagi  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:58 PM Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS Am in Westchester (New Rochelle). Where are you? 
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot 
winkler Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS I went to the outdoor cat colony and 
dumped large amounts of dry food in the 2 protected stations. I am very worried 
about
 the cats with the hurricane. We constructed small dog-house like houses for 
them with tee pees around them from wood pallets and some plastic. What's the 
general consensu? How have any of your outdoor cat colonies done in the 
hurricane situations? In Hurricane Irene, the group did okay but this one they 
are saying is worse. Do any of you live around this area of the hurricane 
approaching?  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
It IS about Harley.  Since he wants to be outside, he could be if he had a nice 
escape proof enclosure so the wood creatures, both nasty and nice can't get to 
him nor he to them and he and some of his house mates can still enjoy the 
great outdoors without jeopardizing their lives or your sanity. Harley sounds 
like my Romeo who managed in one year, at my former home to vanish completely 
for two weeks, return, vanish again and return with a broken front leg.  That 
was it for me.  At the new place, which is in the middle of woods somewhere in 
Texas he now has an enclosure with access to a large shed, complete with 
donated air conditioner (it's hot here about 9 months of the year) and his 8 
companion problem and non-problem cats.  Romeo was always an inside cat, always 
a spritzer and always a problem because he used to like to pick fights with 
everyone, even girl cats.  Now he's a mellow fellow and stops to smell the 
roses (actually weeds, no roses
 available).  I'm forwarding some pictures my friend took of my cat sanctuary.  
It cost me about $700 but it's very large, originally housed 14 cats.  Three 
passed away and 2 went back up the hill (steep driveway) to my cat room. 
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
 
OOPS!  just realized this was not about Harley, but it sure can apply to him.


--- Lee Evans wrote:  Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your 
weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!   
From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, 
November 5, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty  While 
we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 
2 or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do 
their thing and then most come back on the
 deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My problem is that in the last month or so 
Harley insists on being outside all day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral 
and when I refuse to let him out he waits until I am looking and then sprays, 
usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I can see it on his face, I said I want 
out!  Let me out or I will spray everything in site, not to mention pace the 
floor, deliberatly knock theings down.  I have never seen this problem on My 
Cat From Hell.  Usually bad behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has 
alsways had a loving home with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also 
super active, like a Savannah, jumps 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting cat solution

2012-11-05 Thread MaiMaiPG
I put a break away collar on Mi Tu.  She got her paw hung in it.  It  
did not break away and, had I not been close by, she would have  
strangled herself fighting to free herself.  I don't put collars on  
cats any more.

On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Marcia wrote:

The Sentry calming collars work very well. That have the same  
pheromones as the feliway. But they wear them(-:


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2012, at 2:46 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

Re:  Harley  I have a Felway diffuser going 24hrs a day and even  
bought a cd of music that is supposed to CALM animals.  It is  
great for putting me to sleep at night, but has no effect on Harley.



 Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com wrote:
Went to the store that the mattress came from.  They sold me a  
waterproof

cover for $40.
I got one for both of the beds in the house.  The man says it  
works great
for pet problems.  I put the cover under the mattress pad.  I hope  
it works.


I put vinegar/water on the soiled spot and it dried quickly with the
ceiling fan on high.

We have a recently adopted cat and there are some battles going on  
in the

house.  I might try the feliway diffuser.

Oh, also I wanted to add that my couch is covered with carpet  
protector
that is held onto the couch with upholstery Twist Pins.  On top of  
that are
two slipcovers.  That's how I have my couch protected.  It's  
pretty comfy.


Who was that on this board who said to let the cats have the house  
and the

humans can live in the closets?  ha ha ha



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lee Evans  
moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:




For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads  
or the
adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for  
adults with
bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With  
all the
cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with  
at least
one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out  
and
dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's  
disposable

mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use  
the
mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types  
when one of
my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You  
can also
purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular  
quilted
mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing  
machine
if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with  
rubbing
alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the  
summer,
if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can  
use the top
removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the  
garbage if
they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can  
even make
up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof  
mattress topper
over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.   
If an
accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready  
for

sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme  
type odor
eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at  
PetsMart.  It
doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I  
prefer the
odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into  
deodorizers.  When
you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the  
spot stays
wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little  
beneficial

bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what  
you come

up with. There are many brands and many prices.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and  
nasty

neighbors too!




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