Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread catatonya
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive cat DD is 
doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents over the summer, 
and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet visit found her 
healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating bills 
in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to no 
effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in plastic 
and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the plastic away 
and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a love seat turned 
upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!
 
tonya



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat
  


For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults 
with bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With 
all the cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem 
with at least one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my 
hair out and dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly 
mom's disposable mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't 
incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in 
case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the 
washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the bed was 
her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress 
cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it
 and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to
 feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types 
and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are 
disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make up the 
bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over
 the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an 
accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for 
sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would
 recommend an enzyme type odor eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which
 you can purchase at PetsMart.  It doesn't have any added scent as a 
cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the odor of cat pee to those awful
 perfumes
 they dump into deodorizers.  When you use the enzyme type deodorizer, 
you have to make sure the spot stays wet for at least 24 hours.  If it 
dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
with. There are many brands and many prices.



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neighbors too!





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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Susan Hoffman
I adopted two cats with intermittent litter box issues to a very clever adopter 
a couple of years ago.  These two -- gorgeous Maine Coon sisters -- would pee 
where they shouldn't when they were stressed, like with rehoming for example.  
This adopter covered her sofa with plastic wrap and then dabbed vinegar all 
over it.  She did this for a month while the girls settled in and bonded with 
their litter boxes.  FWIW, it worked.




From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?


Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive cat DD is 
doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents over the summer, 
and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet visit found her 
healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating bills 
in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to no 
effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in plastic 
and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the plastic away 
and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a love seat turned 
upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!
 
tonya




From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat



For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the adult 
mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with bladder 
incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the cats I have 
had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least one or two of 
them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and dumping the cat out 
the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable mattress pads for a 
while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed 
pan, so just in case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I purchased 
several of the washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the 
bed was her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress 
cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it and just toss the 
topper into the washing machine if someone makes a mistake, sponge the 
waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a
 good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to 
feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types and 
either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are disposable.  The 
washable are more economical. You can even make up the bed in the morning and 
then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over the whole thing to keep 
everything good while you are gone.  If an accident happens, you just whisk the 
cover off and you are ready for sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor 
eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It 
doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the 
odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When 
you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays wet 
for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and 
the enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
with. There are many brands and many prices.



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neighbors too!





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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread PandieAnn
i use rubber sheeting purchased at joanne's fabric store (they just  had 
60% coupon off yesterday).  it absorbs, never soaks thru.  cut and  tear to 
whatever size you need.  just throw in the washer (no bleach) and  dryer.   
i buy the bolt and cut to size(s) I want.  never  fails.  I first discovered 
and used for elderly parents.
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/14/2012 12:12:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
catato...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My  positive cat 
DD is doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting  incidents over 
the summer, and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her  vet visit 
found her healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save  heating 
bills in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on  sofas to 
no effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides  covering in 
plastic and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull  all the 
plastic away and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and  a love 
seat turned upside down in my living room right now where I gave  up!
 
tonya



 
 

From: Lee Evans  moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44  PM
Subject: [Felvtalk]  Bedwetting Cat



 
 

For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads  or the 
adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults  with 
bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.   With all the 
cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem  with at least one 
or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my  hair out and dumping 
the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's  disposable mattress 
pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent  but she couldn't walk so 
needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the  mattress pads.  Then I 
purchased several of the washable types when one  of my very old cats began 
thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can  also purchase a zippered 
waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular  quilted mattress topper over it 
and just toss the topper into the washing  machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing  alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer 
after it evaporates.  But in the  summer, if you don't want to feel you are 
being shrink wrapped, you can use  the top removable types and either toss 
into the wash or toss into the  garbage if they are disposable.  The 
washable are more economical. You  can even make up the bed in the morning and 
then 
put a fitted waterproof  mattress topper over the whole thing to keep 
everything good while you are  gone.  If an accident happens, you just whisk 
the 
cover off and you are  ready for sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I  would recommend an enzyme type odor 
eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme,  which you can purchase at PetsMart.  
It doesn't have any added scent as  a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer 
the odor of cat pee to those  awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  
When you use the enzyme  type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot 
stays wet for at least 24  hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial 
bacteria and the  enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer  and see what you come 
up with. There are many brands and many  prices.





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Re: [Felvtalk] cat attract

2012-11-14 Thread PandieAnn
also, have you tried dr. elsey's cat attract litter.  it's 100%  
guaranteed.  works great.  cats love it.  can get coupons on  ebay
 
 
In a message dated 11/14/2012 12:19:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
susan_hoff...@yahoo.com writes:

 
I adopted two cats with  intermittent litter box issues to a very clever 
adopter a couple of years  ago.  These two -- gorgeous Maine Coon sisters -- 
would pee where they  shouldn't when they were stressed, like with rehoming 
for example.  This  adopter covered her sofa with plastic wrap and then 
dabbed vinegar all over  it.  She did this for a month while the girls settled 
in 
and bonded with  their litter boxes.  FWIW, it worked.




 
 

From: catatonya  catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:11  AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]  Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?



 
 
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My  positive cat 
DD is doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting  incidents over 
the summer, and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her  vet visit 
found her healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save  heating 
bills in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on  sofas to 
no effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides  covering in 
plastic and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull  all the 
plastic away and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and  a love 
seat turned upside down in my living room right now where I gave  up!
 
tonya



 
 

From: Lee Evans  moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44  PM
Subject: [Felvtalk]  Bedwetting Cat



 
 

For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads  or the 
adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults  with 
bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.   With all the 
cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem  with at least one 
or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my  hair out and dumping 
the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's  disposable mattress 
pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent  but she couldn't walk so 
needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the  mattress pads.  Then I 
purchased several of the washable types when one  of my very old cats began 
thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can  also purchase a zippered 
waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular  quilted mattress topper over it 
and just toss the topper into the washing  machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing  alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer 
after it evaporates.  But in the  summer, if you don't want to feel you are 
being shrink wrapped, you can use  the top removable types and either toss 
into the wash or toss into the  garbage if they are disposable.  The 
washable are more economical. You  can even make up the bed in the morning and 
then 
put a fitted waterproof  mattress topper over the whole thing to keep 
everything good while you are  gone.  If an accident happens, you just whisk 
the 
cover off and you are  ready for sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I  would recommend an enzyme type odor 
eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme,  which you can purchase at PetsMart.  
It doesn't have any added scent as  a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer 
the odor of cat pee to those  awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  
When you use the enzyme  type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot 
stays wet for at least 24  hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial 
bacteria and the  enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer  and see what you come 
up with. There are many brands and many  prices.





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Re: [Felvtalk] cat attract

2012-11-14 Thread Martha Walton
My 12 yr old cat recently wet the bed (and #2 on the couch twice).  I got
Dr. Esley's Cat Attract and all my cats love, love, love it.  Meanwhile, to
keep my furniture safe, I put vinyl tablecloths (cheap) over my bed and
sofa during the day.  I also covered my mattress and couch with waterproof
mattress covers, too.  The vinyl tablecloths have flannel on the back and
it keeps it from slipping around.  I found them at Target.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM, pandie...@aol.com wrote:

 **
 also, have you tried dr. elsey's cat attract litter.  it's 100%
 guaranteed.  works great.  cats love it.  can get coupons on ebay

  In a message dated 11/14/2012 12:19:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 susan_hoff...@yahoo.com writes:

  I adopted two cats with intermittent litter box issues to a very clever
 adopter a couple of years ago.  These two -- gorgeous Maine Coon sisters --
 would pee where they shouldn't when they were stressed, like with rehoming
 for example.  This adopter covered her sofa with plastic wrap and then
 dabbed vinegar all over it.  She did this for a month while the girls
 settled in and bonded with their litter boxes.  FWIW, it worked.

   *From:* catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:11 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

   Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive
 cat DD is doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents
 over the summer, and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet
 visit found her healthy

 I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating
 bills in the winter!

 My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to
 no effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in
 plastic and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the
 plastic away and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a
 love seat turned upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!

 tonya

   *From:* Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat


 For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with
 bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the
 cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least
 one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and
 dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable
 mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
 couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the
 mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of
 my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also
 purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted
 mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine
 if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing
 alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer,
 if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top
 removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if
 they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make
 up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper
 over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an
 accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for
 sleeping in the bed.

 For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor
 eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It
 doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the
 odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When
 you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays
 wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial
 bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
 You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come
 up with. There are many brands and many prices.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture by 
the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the underside 
of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the matching strip 
on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  It doesn't have 
to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa.  
You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store to 
clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You can also purchase screw 
pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old furniture.  Doesn't do any 
damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to look this up in the 
phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if 
they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It 
seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best 
of the human species.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread catatonya
Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my 
laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on 
hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions made 
to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live by 
myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have 
company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the sofas 
anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers 
on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top 
mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! 
Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have the 
power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya
 


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Tonya, 
You have such positive outlook, god bless you!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks Lee,
  
 I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
 things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
 herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered 
 my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a 
 lot..on hard tile floors
  
 Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions 
 made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live 
 by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I 
 have company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on 
 the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
  
 Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted 
 layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off 
 the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
  
 I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the 
 sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they 
 have the power!
  
 I saw a lots great ideas! 
  
 My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
 eventually have kidney problems true.
  
 tonya
  
 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 
 To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
 by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
 underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
 matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
 It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
 away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
 office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
 can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
 furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when 
 the pin is removed.  
 
 Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can 
 have the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to look this up in 
 the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and 
 see if they can do that.  
 
 As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
 can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
 the living room over to the misbehaving cat.
 
 I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
 litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
 donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
 no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
 President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
 shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
 litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away. 
  They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  
 It seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the 
 best of the human species.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] cat attract

2012-11-14 Thread pandieann
try the rubber sheeting.  you will absolutely love



-Original Message-
From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat attract


My 12 yr old cat recently wet the bed (and #2 on the couch twice).  I got Dr. 
Esley's Cat Attract and all my cats love, love, love it.  Meanwhile, to keep my 
furniture safe, I put vinyl tablecloths (cheap) over my bed and sofa during the 
day.  I also covered my mattress and couch with waterproof mattress covers, 
too.  The vinyl tablecloths have flannel on the back and it keeps it from 
slipping around.  I found them at Target.


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM, pandie...@aol.com wrote:


also, have you tried dr. elsey's cat attract litter.  it's 100% guaranteed.  
works great.  cats love it.  can get coupons on ebay
 

In a message dated 11/14/2012 12:19:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
susan_hoff...@yahoo.com writes:

I adopted two cats with intermittent litter box issues to a very clever adopter 
a couple of years ago.  These two -- gorgeous Maine Coon sisters -- would pee 
where they shouldn't when they were stressed, like with rehoming for example.  
This adopter covered her sofa with plastic wrap and then dabbed vinegar all 
over it.  She did this for a month while the girls settled in and bonded with 
their litter boxes.  FWIW, it worked.





From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?




Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive cat DD is 
doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents over the summer, 
and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet visit found her 
healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating bills 
in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to no 
effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in plastic 
and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the plastic away 
and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a love seat turned 
upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!
 
tonya




From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat





For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the adult 
mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with bladder 
incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the cats I have 
had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least one or two of 
them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and dumping the cat out the 
door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable mattress pads for a while.  
She actually wasn't incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so 
just in case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the 
washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the bed was her 
litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then 
put a regular quilted mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the 
washing machine if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with 
rubbing alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the 
summer, if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the 
top removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if 
they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make up 
the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over 
the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an accident 
happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor 
eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It 
doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the 
odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  When you 
use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays wet for at 
least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and the 
enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
with. There are many brands and many prices.




 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
You could buy small area rugs to put near places where she jumps up and falls 
down so the tiles won't hurt her old bones.  Most of the smaller rugs are 
washable.  You can get some inexpensive ones at Goodwill or Salvation Army 
Thrift store.  You can also buy plastic pillow protectors which might fit patio 
chair cushions.  

Sheesh!  I had a rescue cat who used to chew electric cords.  I finally had to 
give her away to a woman who had an outside area that was safe for outside cats 
because I was afraid that the little idiot cat would eventually electrocute 
herself or short out all the house wiring.  It's amazing what we put up with 
just because we have a soft heart (and probably are soft in the head too) for 
cats.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 

Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my 
laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a 
lot..on hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions 
made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live by 
myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have 
company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the 
sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers 
on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top 
mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! 
Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have 
the power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya
 
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when 
the pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can 
have the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed 
away.  They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread MaiMaiPG

Bitter Apple seems to work on chewing issues.
On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

You could buy small area rugs to put near places where she jumps up  
and falls down so the tiles won't hurt her old bones.  Most of the  
smaller rugs are washable.  You can get some inexpensive ones at  
Goodwill or Salvation Army Thrift store.  You can also buy plastic  
pillow protectors which might fit patio chair cushions.


Sheesh!  I had a rescue cat who used to chew electric cords.  I  
finally had to give her away to a woman who had an outside area that  
was safe for outside cats because I was afraid that the little idiot  
cat would eventually electrocute herself or short out all the house  
wiring.  It's amazing what we put up with just because we have a  
soft heart (and probably are soft in the head too) for cats.



Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and  
nasty neighbors too!



From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

Thanks Lee,

I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that  
pulls all things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray  
she didn't kill herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical  
cords as well and shattered my laptop display She has the  
bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on hard tile floors


Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with  
cushions made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too  
comfy, but I live by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in  
the spare bedroom unless I have company.  I kept all sofa cushions  
put away already, and they peed on the sofas anyway. No wicker, but  
they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.


Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof  
quilted layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the  
covers, peel off the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket,  
and go back to sleep!


I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except  
the sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want.  
They know they have the power!


I saw a lots great ideas!

My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they  
will eventually have kidney problems true.


tonya

From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the  
furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach  
one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you  
are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down to  
stick it to the sofa material.  It doesn't have to be perfect but it  
will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa.  You can  
also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store  
to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You can also  
purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old  
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes  
up when the pin is removed.


Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?   
You can have the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to  
look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone  
an upholstery company and see if they can do that.


As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate  
room  that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you  
living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat.


I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed  
with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very  
expensive.  I usually get donated litter here.  I have so many cats  
who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper scooper.   
I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The President of one of our  
rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter attached  
to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn litter  
box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed  
away.  They are older cats with set habits and some health issues,  
not adoptable.  It seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled  
with saints and angels, the best of the human species.


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