Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

2012-11-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If that's the case, then why do dogs who retain their ovaries live a third
longer?There's more to the overall story than just local stresses:
http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html   American vet schools do not
teach any sterilizations other than spay/neuter.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My vet said being in heat is more stressful than the surgery. I would wait
 for the retest, though. If still positive have a full bloodwork panel done
 to make sure she is healthy, just as you would for a senior kitty.
 Hope all goes well.

 Beth

 Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 We are looking at possibly spaying Kitty, our 5 months old FeLV rescued
 feral baby. She is currently on the lysine and living large in her own
 room, isolated from our other two cats, since she posted positive but we
 are retesting her at 6months, which should be in December.
 Should we retest first and then spay?
 Is there anything we should know/do to prepare ?
 
 Any suggestions are welcome
 
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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Lauraine Venter
Hi Everyone

 

I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save from
5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't know
what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some vitamins but
I know that is not going to make things better.  I live in Mocambique and
had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine available for prevent this
illness but sadly not available in this country nor is any treatment at all
just some vitamins to try and boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset and
everything at once, is there anything I can do please even willing to go
holistic but obviously bearing in mind where I live.

 

Kind Regards

Lauraine Venter

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread dlgegg
Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her when 
she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured doses.  Name 
is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from my vet.  Can you 
let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that comes to in ounces?  
Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get fresh raw meat?  Otherwise, 
get canned or dry that does not contain corn, wheat or soy, as most of these 
ingredients are genetically modified and are not good for our animals or us.  I 
am sure you will hear from more of the group.  Hang in there, give her lots of 
love and we will keep you in our prayers.  Good luck.
 Lauraine Venter laura...@hencon.co.mz wrote: 
 Hi Everyone
 
  
 
 I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save from
 5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't know
 what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some vitamins but
 I know that is not going to make things better.  I live in Mocambique and
 had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine available for prevent this
 illness but sadly not available in this country nor is any treatment at all
 just some vitamins to try and boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset and
 everything at once, is there anything I can do please even willing to go
 holistic but obviously bearing in mind where I live.
 
  
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Lauraine Venter
 
  
 
  
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Lauraine Venter
I can find any medications on line and get it past customs no problem my 
worries is what medication to give as our vets here does not have an idea 
either they just did the test said oh so sorry no vaccines to prevent this 
illness in this country yet here is 15 days of vitamins and so sorry.  So I am 
very worried about what to get with regards to medicine.  He lost 200g in 4 
days which is approx 7 ounces in 4 days and for a cat that is not good even I 
know that, he is just sleepy the whole time and not eating a lot, I have 
changed the food to a better product called Montego not your average commercial 
Epol or something available in supermarkets this dry food is very similar to 
IAMS just slightly cheaper.  I can get plenty of raw fish and meat but the 
problem is this kitty of mine is very full of crap when it comes to food since 
first day I got him so not sure if the change will work or not nor have I ever 
tried the raw diet before very new to me.  Thanks for the advise and care 
appreciate it a lot still angry and upset though but hey what can you do if you 
live in a developing country where certain stuff is not available as yet.

Kind Regards
Lauraine Venter

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
Sent: 19 November 2012 10:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Lauraine Venter
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her when 
she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured doses.  Name 
is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from my vet.  Can you 
let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that comes to in ounces?  
Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get fresh raw meat?  Otherwise, 
get canned or dry that does not contain corn, wheat or soy, as most of these 
ingredients are genetically modified and are not good for our animals or us.  I 
am sure you will hear from more of the group.  Hang in there, give her lots of 
love and we will keep you in our prayers.  Good luck.
 Lauraine Venter laura...@hencon.co.mz wrote: 
 Hi Everyone
 
  
 
 I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save 
 from
 5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't 
 know what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some 
 vitamins but I know that is not going to make things better.  I live 
 in Mocambique and had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine 
 available for prevent this illness but sadly not available in this 
 country nor is any treatment at all just some vitamins to try and 
 boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset and everything at once, is 
 there anything I can do please even willing to go holistic but obviously 
 bearing in mind where I live.
 
  
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Lauraine Venter
 
  
 
  
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Lauraine Venter
Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to put 
them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good bye when 
you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than do it to my 
kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him when he was 5 days old and had to perform 
cpr on him at 10 days old as he didn't want to breath anymore so he is super 
special for me he is my kid.  I will definitely have a look at L-Lysine I am 
prepared to do anything for him as long as he is not in any pain think that 
will kill me if I know he is in pain.  He is living a very stress free life 
thus far (own playroom, jungle gym, toys, bed and even aircon as it get 40-45 
degrees around here), my main concern is that it was picked up to late being 
that he is losing weight fast and still not eating good even if I give him his 
special treats that he loves and yes his age.

Kind Regards
Lauraine Venter

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
Sent: 19 November 2012 10:32 PM
To: Lauraine Venter
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

You would be amazed at the number of vets in the US that reccommend putting a 
FELV+ cat to sleep because they feel it won't live and the costs can be high 
sometimes. My vet (one of the good ones) said it was up to me, there was a 
chance she could live a long life. It depends on the person living with the 
cat.  How much do you love him (sorry bout that, could have sworn I saw her in 
your first mail).  My Annie was 4 and is now 8 and has never been sick in that 
time.  Nitnoy came with problems, a raccoon bit her tail off so she had stress 
to begin with.  She still lived a normal, healthy life until 2 weeks before she 
passed with her head on my shoulder.  There was no great pain for her, she 
simply sighed and was gone.  
One of the main things to do is avoid stress, that hurts the imune system.  The 
L-Lysine will boost his immune system and hel fight off the FELV or the 
secondary infection.  Because your baby is so young, it might be harder to 
fight it off, but if you are conserned enough to reach out for help, he has 
love to boost him and in my book that counts a lot.  I will keep both of you in 
my prayers.
 Lauraine Venter laura...@hencon.co.mz wrote: 
 I can find any medications on line and get it past customs no problem my 
 worries is what medication to give as our vets here does not have an idea 
 either they just did the test said oh so sorry no vaccines to prevent this 
 illness in this country yet here is 15 days of vitamins and so sorry.  So I 
 am very worried about what to get with regards to medicine.  He lost 200g in 
 4 days which is approx 7 ounces in 4 days and for a cat that is not good even 
 I know that, he is just sleepy the whole time and not eating a lot, I have 
 changed the food to a better product called Montego not your average 
 commercial Epol or something available in supermarkets this dry food is very 
 similar to IAMS just slightly cheaper.  I can get plenty of raw fish and meat 
 but the problem is this kitty of mine is very full of crap when it comes to 
 food since first day I got him so not sure if the change will work or not nor 
 have I ever tried the raw diet before very new to me.  Thanks for the advise 
 and care appreciate it a lot still angry and upset though but hey what can 
 you do if you live in a developing country where certain stuff is not 
 available as yet.
 
 Kind Regards
 Lauraine Venter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
 Sent: 19 November 2012 10:06 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: Lauraine Venter
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
 
 Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
 customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
 diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her 
 when she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured doses. 
  Name is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from my vet.  
 Can you let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that comes to in 
 ounces?  Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get fresh raw meat?  
 Otherwise, get canned or dry that does not contain corn, wheat or soy, as 
 most of these ingredients are genetically modified and are not good for our 
 animals or us.  I am sure you will hear from more of the group.  Hang in 
 there, give her lots of love and we will keep you in our prayers.  Good luck.
  Lauraine Venter laura...@hencon.co.mz wrote: 
  Hi Everyone
  
   
  
  I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I 
  save from
  5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't 
  know what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some 
  vitamins but I know that is not going to make things better.  I live 
  in Mocambique and had to hear today 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Marcia Baronda
Hi Laurine,

First let me say that I'm so sorry, because this is so scary and probably worse 
for you since it doesn't sound like you are getting any HOPE, which is so 
important. Does your kitty have a temperature? If you can get meds online I 
would definitely suggest some amoxicillin, if he has a fever. He may have an 
infection that he needs help with. You can order fish antibiotics over the 
Internet made by Thomas Labs. I hate to give this kind of advice, but it may 
make him better where he feels good enough to eat better. I would also give him 
some b complex vitamins
Because cats need them. Sometimes they will perk up and eat and drink better 
after having them. Twin Labs makes liquid b complex that you could give by 
syringe. Other people on here will be able to help better than I, because I'm 
kind of a newbie with the Felv. My heart goes out to you and your kitty.

Take care
Marcia
Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Lauraine Venter laura...@hencon.co.mz wrote:

 Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to put 
 them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good bye when 
 you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than do it to my 
 kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him when he was 5 days old and had to perform 
 cpr on him at 10 days old as he didn't want to breath anymore so he is super 
 special for me he is my kid.  I will definitely have a look at L-Lysine I am 
 prepared to do anything for him as long as he is not in any pain think that 
 will kill me if I know he is in pain.  He is living a very stress free life 
 thus far (own playroom, jungle gym, toys, bed and even aircon as it get 40-45 
 degrees around here), my main concern is that it was picked up to late being 
 that he is losing weight fast and still not eating good even if I give him 
 his special treats that he loves and yes his age.
 
 Kind Regards
 Lauraine Venter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
 Sent: 19 November 2012 10:32 PM
 To: Lauraine Venter
 Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
 
 You would be amazed at the number of vets in the US that reccommend putting a 
 FELV+ cat to sleep because they feel it won't live and the costs can be high 
 sometimes. My vet (one of the good ones) said it was up to me, there was a 
 chance she could live a long life. It depends on the person living with the 
 cat.  How much do you love him (sorry bout that, could have sworn I saw her 
 in your first mail).  My Annie was 4 and is now 8 and has never been sick in 
 that time.  Nitnoy came with problems, a raccoon bit her tail off so she had 
 stress to begin with.  She still lived a normal, healthy life until 2 weeks 
 before she passed with her head on my shoulder.  There was no great pain for 
 her, she simply sighed and was gone.  
 One of the main things to do is avoid stress, that hurts the imune system.  
 The L-Lysine will boost his immune system and hel fight off the FELV or the 
 secondary infection.  Because your baby is so young, it might be harder to 
 fight it off, but if you are conserned enough to reach out for help, he has 
 love to boost him and in my book that counts a lot.  I will keep both of you 
 in my prayers.
  Lauraine Venter laura...@hencon.co.mz wrote: 
 I can find any medications on line and get it past customs no problem my 
 worries is what medication to give as our vets here does not have an idea 
 either they just did the test said oh so sorry no vaccines to prevent this 
 illness in this country yet here is 15 days of vitamins and so sorry.  So I 
 am very worried about what to get with regards to medicine.  He lost 200g in 
 4 days which is approx 7 ounces in 4 days and for a cat that is not good 
 even I know that, he is just sleepy the whole time and not eating a lot, I 
 have changed the food to a better product called Montego not your average 
 commercial Epol or something available in supermarkets this dry food is very 
 similar to IAMS just slightly cheaper.  I can get plenty of raw fish and 
 meat but the problem is this kitty of mine is very full of crap when it 
 comes to food since first day I got him so not sure if the change will work 
 or not nor have I ever tried the raw diet before very new to me.  Thanks for 
 the advise and care appreciate it a lot still angry and upset though but hey 
 what can you do if you live in a developing country where certain stuff is 
 not available as yet.
 
 Kind Regards
 Lauraine Venter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
 Sent: 19 November 2012 10:06 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: Lauraine Venter
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
 
 Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
 customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
 diagnosed