Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
 test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
 strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
 and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
 I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
 with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.


 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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 *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

 I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
 were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
 the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
 the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
 boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
 don't make it past aa year or so.

 Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please remove me from your mailing list - thank you

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You do that yourself by clicking on the bottom link of each Felvtalk
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in 
the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. 
I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still 
positive I would test him on the IFA.

Beth

 
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 From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.    ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA.


On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in 
a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.



 
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 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

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More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

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[Felvtalk] Aslans Cats Hurricane

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
I don't know about this place, but it seems reputable. Make your own 
judgements, but it seems they were devastated by the hurricane.


http://aslanscats.org/cms/

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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Lynda Wilson
Lorrie, I had a “light” positive on my kitten as well. He did not clear the 
virus, but please don’t lose hope. There can still be a better outcome.

Beth is correct!  Also, a positive ELISA test must be done no earlier than 90 
days for accuracy after the first test. If it’s still positive, do an IFA. If 
the IFA is positive, than the virus is in the bone marrow and the kitty can’t 
clear the virus.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Hugs to you and your kitten!

Lynda



From: Beth 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in 
the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. 
I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still 
positive I would test him on the IFA.


Beth


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From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA. 

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, 
in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.




  Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!






From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
Yes, even a positive cat can have a good life. I have 4 positives right not (in 
addition to my 2 negatives). They are happy  healthy.

Beth

 
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 From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

Lorrie, I had a “light” positive on my kitten as well. He did not clear the 
virus, but please don’t lose hope. There can still be a better outcome.
 
Beth is correct!  Also, a positive ELISA test must be done no earlier 
than 90 days for accuracy after the first test. If it’s still positive, do an 
IFA. If the IFA is positive, than the virus is in the bone marrow and the kitty 
can’t clear the virus.
 
Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Hugs to you and your kitten!
 
Lynda
 
  
From: Beth 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
  An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply 
means it is in the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw 
off the virus. I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it 
is still positive I would test him on the IFA.

Beth

 
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 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 
2012 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

 
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false 
negatives.    ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if 
you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. 
 
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

I  don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, 
in  a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong  
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and  it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had  the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with  20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.



 
Spay and Neuter  your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors  too!






 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November  24, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued 
kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him 
tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They 
told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this 
indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this 
kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I 
don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa 
year or 
so.

Lorrie

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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and 
to free up cage space.
 
Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of 
their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of 
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sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: 
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More fun reading: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
Hey! Just like my front door sign says:

If you get upset about cat and dog hair on my furniture please go back
home and 'visit' me by phone. All my furniture has pet hair on it. That's
why it's called FUR-niture!

Kat

Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

Well, when I find that my cats don't match the furniture, I throw out the
furniture.  That's it!

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*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

I have quarry tile floor except in bedrooms, they are wood.  Furniture is
covered in sheets of various colors which can be taken off when company
comes.  The color scheme in living room varies from sheet washing day to
sheet washing day.  I figure that if people know me, they understand.
Others don't have to come to my house if it upsets them.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've heard of this... People who want to get rid of a cat because
 the fur doesn't match the furniture.. Geez.

 I have my furniture covered in multicolored velour upholstery, and my
rugs,
 are all oriental design.  The design really hides the fur, and the soft
 velvet upholstery is not what cats like to claw.  It works, and I have
 a bunch of cats of all sizes, shapes and colors including three long
haired
 cats who really leave a lot of fur around!  There are ways to live with
 multiple cats and still have a nice home, but too many people use fur as
 an excuse to dump their pets.

 Lorrie


  On 11-02, Lee Evans wrote:
 This actually happened to me when I was answering our hotline for
VOICE
 For Animals.  A woman called asking if we could take an orange cat.
I
 asked her why. What she said was that she had purchased a white sofa
 and the cat was getting orange fur all over it.  She said she would
be
 willing to take a white cat in exchange.  She had had the orange cat
 for 2 years, had come into some money recently and was buying new
 living room furniture.  I finally talked her out of dumping her cat
on
 us by telling her about the sticky roller product for removing lint
and
 hair from things.  I also told her that she should purchase a
 multicolored  sofa cover to keep the sofa covered for general use and
 whisk off the cover when company arrives. She was delighted with the
 ideas.  I should write a book on how to color coordinate your rooms
 with your cats and dogs and how to color coordinate your daily work
 outfits with a shedding pet.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
So which is the snap test? Or is it something else??

Kat

Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:

Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
 test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
 strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
 and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
 I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
 with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.


 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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 *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

 I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
 were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
 the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
 the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
 boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
 don't make it past aa year or so.

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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab  costs around 
$100 depending on your area  tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, 
meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.


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 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
To: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

So which is the snap test?  Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.    ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA.


On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in 
a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.



 
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neighbors too!






 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa year or so.

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If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902




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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the
saliva test right?

Thanks. That helps a lot!

Kat

Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab  costs around
$100 depending on your area  tests to see if the virus is in the bone
marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.

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*Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

So which is the snap test? Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!


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*From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
Oops wait a minute I re read your email. It is the other way around isn't
it. SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for bone
marrow?

Kt

Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the
saliva test right?

Thanks. That helps a lot!

Kat

Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab  costs around
$100 depending on your area  tests to see if the virus is in the bone
marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.

Beth

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*Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

So which is the snap test? Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!


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*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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life.  Contact your local pound for information.
http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Pam Norman
Couldn't agree with you more. I tell people that my primary form of 
interior decoration is organic.

On 11/26/2012 11:19 AM, Kathryn Green wrote:

Hey! Just like my front door sign says:

If you get upset about cat and dog hair on my furniture please go 
back home and 'visit' me by phone. All my furniture has pet hair on 
it. That's why it's called FUR-niture!


Kat

Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

Well, when I find that my cats don't match the furniture, I throw out 
the furniture.  That's it!
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!




*From:* dlg...@windstream.net mailto:dlg...@windstream.net
dlg...@windstream.net mailto:dlg...@windstream.net
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mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2012 4:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

I have quarry tile floor except in bedrooms, they are wood. 
Furniture is covered in sheets of various colors which can be

taken off when company comes.  The color scheme in living room
varies from sheet washing day to sheet washing day.  I figure that
if people know me, they understand.  Others don't have to come to
my house if it upsets them.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
mailto:felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've heard of this... People who want to get rid of a cat
because
 the fur doesn't match the furniture.. Geez.

 I have my furniture covered in multicolored velour upholstery,
and my rugs,
 are all oriental design.  The design really hides the fur, and
the soft
 velvet upholstery is not what cats like to claw. It works, and I
have
 a bunch of cats of all sizes, shapes and colors including three
long haired
 cats who really leave a lot of fur around!  There are ways to
live with
 multiple cats and still have a nice home, but too many people
use fur as
 an excuse to dump their pets.

 Lorrie


  On 11-02, Lee Evans wrote:
 This actually happened to me when I was answering our
hotline for VOICE
 For Animals.  A woman called asking if we could take an
orange cat.  I
 asked her why. What she said was that she had purchased a
white sofa
 and the cat was getting orange fur all over it.  She said
she would be
 willing to take a white cat in exchange. She had had the
orange cat
 for 2 years, had come into some money recently and was
buying new
 living room furniture.  I finally talked her out of dumping
her cat on
 us by telling her about the sticky roller product for
removing lint and
 hair from things.  I also told her that she should purchase a
 multicolored  sofa cover to keep the sofa covered for
general use and
 whisk off the cover when company arrives. She was delighted
with the
 ideas.  I should write a book on how to color coordinate
your rooms
 with your cats and dogs and how to color coordinate your
daily work
 outfits with a shedding pet.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread LauraM
Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because 
they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.
 
As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture 
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I 
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. 
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to 
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over 
that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of 
cats.
 
Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't 
accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read:  
For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy 
it.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Lee Evans
Both ELISA/SNAP and IRA use blood drawn from the cat.  The saliva test is 
something else entirely.  I think it is supposed to test in much the same way 
as the ELISA/SNAP for the same thing.  I don't think there's a saliva test that 
tests for the virus in the bone marrow (IFA).  Anyone have a definite answer to 
this?


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
To: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

Oops wait a minute I re read your email.  It is the other way around isn't it. 
 SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for bone marrow?
Kt
Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:
OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the saliva 
test right?
Thanks.  That helps a lot!
Kat
Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab  costs around 
$100 depending on your area  tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, 
meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.



Beth

 
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 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
To: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

So which is the snap test?  Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.    ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA.


On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, 
in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.



 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!






 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a light pos.  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902







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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Lee Evans
Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If 
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a 
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
 

Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because 
they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.
 
As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture 
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I 
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. 
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to 
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over 
that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of 
cats.
 
Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't 
accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read:  
For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to 
buy it.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Edna Taylor

We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly 
covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck 
cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the pisser have passed on, 
we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;)
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If 
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a 
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!


From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
   

Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because 
they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.
 
As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture 
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I 
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. 
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to 
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over 
that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of 
cats.
 
Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't 
accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read:  
For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy 
it.





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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Susan Hoffman
I lucked out with the most recent second hand sofa that I bought off of 
craigslist.  Not only are the arms and legs carved wood and thus harder to 
destroy by clawing, all the seat and back cushions zip off for laundering.  And 
the upholstery fabric is really thic, apparently impervious to urine.  I've 
already gotten two years out of this couch and matching chair and I may have it 
for a couple more.




From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture


We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly 
covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of 
duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the pisser have passed 
on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;)
 



Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture


Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If 
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a 
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture


Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because 
they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.
 
As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture 
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I 
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. 
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to 
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over 
that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of 
cats.
 
Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't 
accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read:  
For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to 
buy it.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yeah, I understand.  I dearly love the cats (all five who live indoors with
me) and really enjoy their company (sounds strange to some, but you all
probably understand).  I like to look at the couch and love seat and see
lovely sleeping felines.makes me feel fortunate!

However.being newly single it is something (ahem) to explain to possible
suitors.  The only part I *don't* like is that the furniture is off-white
and has had puke, pee and 'whatever' tossed on it.  That and the fur.  But
as I tell people, one day I'll write a memoir titled, Covered in Cat Hair:
A Story of Love.

After that hits the best seller list I'll buy new furniture!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Edna Taylor
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly
covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck
cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the pisser have passed
on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;)
 

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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work
because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.

 

As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot.
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp
over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a
multitude of cats.

 

Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and
can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that
read:  For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I
need to buy it.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Susan Hoffman
Don't buy new.  I never buy new upholstered anything.  I buy used living room 
furniture off craigslist, always cheap but attractive.  Until my current living 
room set ($125 for couch and matching chair) with the zip-off washable cushion 
covers I simply changed the couch every year.  (Check the free section on 
craigslist as well as the furniture section.  Got a great free couch a couple 
of years ago.)




From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture


Yeah, I understand.  I dearly love the cats (all five who live indoors with me) 
and really enjoy their company (sounds strange to some, but you all probably 
understand).  I like to look at the couch and love seat and see lovely sleeping 
felines…makes me feel fortunate!
However…being newly single it is something (ahem) to explain to possible 
suitors.  The only part I *don’t* like is that the furniture is off-white and 
has had puke, pee and ‘whatever’ tossed on it.  That and the fur.  But as I 
tell people, one day I’ll write a memoir titled, “Covered in Cat Hair: A Story 
of Love.”
After that hits the best seller list I’ll buy new furniture!
Bonnie
 
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna 
Taylor
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
 
We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly 
covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of 
duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the pisser have passed 
on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;)
 



Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If 
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a 
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!
 



From:LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
 
Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because 
they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.
 
As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture 
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I 
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. 
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to 
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over 
that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of 
cats.
 
Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't 
accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read:  
For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to 
buy it.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Lee Evans


Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need.  I live in 
South Texas.  We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a rural 
area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal with 
stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, I also 
have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies.  I tend to stay 
away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable patio 
cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. Anything 
that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no place in a 
house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on something that 
is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is fairly comfortable, 
I don't care what it looks like.

Fortunately,
 almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm normal.  


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
Sounds perfect to me!

Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:


Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need.  I live
in South Texas.  We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to
a rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to
deal with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own
ordinances, I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking
crawlies.  I tend to stay away from anything upholstered in favor of
washable pillows, washable patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and
snuggy cat beds and blankets. Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed
into the washing machine has no place in a house that 38 cats call home. As
long as I can park my rump on something that is clean, won't have any
hidden, stinging surprises and is fairly comfortable, I don't care what it
looks like.

Fortunately, almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm
normal.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
BRAGGER!

Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote:

I lucked out with the most recent second hand sofa that I bought off of
craigslist.  Not only are the arms and legs carved wood and thus harder to
destroy by clawing, all the seat and back cushions zip off for laundering.
And the upholstery fabric is really thic, apparently impervious to urine.
I've already gotten two years out of this couch and matching chair and I
may have it for a couple more.

  *From:* Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

  We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was
promptly covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them
out of duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the
pisser have passed on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until
that happens ;)

 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.
If you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and
file a complaint.  Furrever in love with cats.

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!


  *From:* LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

  Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work
because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.

As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops.
I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot.
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp
over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a
multitude of cats.

Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and
can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that
read:  For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I
need to buy it.

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