Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)

2013-05-02 Thread Michele Fougeres
Hi Dorlis, thank you so much for your message :)
Abelardo is showing great progress, he has a huge appetite and is very playful, 
one would never guess he's FeLV positive.
When we rescued him, he slept all day and seemed to be tired all the time. He 
had a urethral blockage and was hospitalized for 5 days. He has shown so much 
improvement that our vet's hope are high, we don't know how long this is going 
to last but we are so happy.
Thanks for taking the time to send me this message, I'm looking forward to hear 
from the rest of the group.
Michéle

 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:19:47 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
 CC: atomicbetti...@hotmail.com
 
 There are others with more experience with young cats and you will be hearing 
 from them soon.
 
  Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a 
  male cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, 
  and that he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's 
  FeLV positive and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, 
  hematocrit, hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was FeLV 
  positive
 was an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my 
 country of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he 
 has
 been fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s 
 possible that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal 
 life. My research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats usually
 live for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this being 
 a
 false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error is
 very small.  I’ve read about cats that
 fight the virus and are able to eliminate it from their organisms, later
 testing negative for FeLV. I don’t want to have false expectations, but I want
 to hang on to whatever hope there’s still out there for him.
  
 
 We've started him on a
 biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 weeks with Yatren Caseína 
 (an
 immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t know if it’s sold in the USA),
 which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. This is supposed to help him
 increase his white blood cells. We are
 hoping this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking 
 Isoprinosine and
 B complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I
 don’t know if my cat is receiving the best treatment or what should I do to
 increase the odds of him not having to suffer because of this terrible 
 illness.
 I’m willing to buy medicine from another country if needed.
 
  
 
 The vet advised to test my other
 cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I have a 9 year old cat who's in 
 perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he shared the litter box and bowls with 
 the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 hours, I didn't even think about this as 
 a risk, and now I feel terribly guilty for placing my beloved pet in danger. 
 If he isn't infected, then I
 should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in Ecuador 
 yet. I have to see if there are
 ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and have it sent to Ecuador through a
 merchant.
 
  
 
 I want to keep the FeLV positive cat
 with me, as chances are no one will want him or will take care of him the way
 he needs to. We have grown so fond of him, he’s such an adorable, loving cat. 
 I thought about dividing my apartment so the sick cat will not have to
 remain confined in just one room. I can have the cats’ alternate spaces every
 week, after disinfecting everything properly with Clorox and not letting them
 share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you think this will be a good idea?
 
  
 
 I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all going 
 through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we see even 
 a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read about your 
 experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only wants to sleep 
 and not be bothered, and others when he's happy and more active. He has kept 
 a good appetite overall, that gives me hope.
  Thanks for all your help, support and advice. I'm glad to be here.
  Michéle
  

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)

2013-05-02 Thread Beth
That's wonderful news!

 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
 


 
Hi Dorlis, thank you so much for your message :)

Abelardo is showing great progress, he has a huge appetite and is very playful, 
one would never guess he's FeLV positive.

When we rescued him, he slept all day and seemed to be tired all the time. He 
had a urethral blockage and was hospitalized for 5 days. He has shown so much 
improvement that our vet's hope are high, we don't know how long this is going 
to last but we are so happy.

Thanks for taking the time to send me this message, I'm looking forward to hear 
from the rest of the group.

Michéle


 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:19:47 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
 CC: atomicbetti...@hotmail.com
 
 There are others with more experience with young cats and you will be hearing 
 from them soon.
 
  Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a 
  male cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, 
  and that he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's 
  FeLV positive and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, 
  hematocrit, hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was FeLV 
  positive
 was an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my 
 country of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he 
 has
 been fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s 
 possible that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal 
 life. My research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats usually
 live for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this being 
 a
 false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error is
 very small.  I’ve read about cats that
 fight the virus and are able to eliminate it from their organisms, later
 testing negative for FeLV. I don’t want to have false expectations, but I want
 to hang on to whatever hope there’s still out there for him.
  
 
 We've started him on a
 biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 weeks with Yatren Caseína 
 (an
 immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t know if it’s sold in the USA),
 which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. This is supposed to help him
 increase his white blood cells. We are
 hoping this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking 
 Isoprinosine and
 B complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I
 don’t know if my cat is receiving the best treatment or what should I do to
 increase the odds of him not having to suffer because of this terrible 
 illness.
 I’m willing to buy medicine from another country if needed.
 
 
 
 The vet advised to test my other
 cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I have a 9 year old cat who's in 
 perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he shared the litter box and bowls with 
 the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 hours, I didn't even think about this as 
 a risk, and now I feel terribly guilty for placing my beloved pet in danger. 
 If he isn't infected, then I
 should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in Ecuador 
 yet. I have to see if there are
 ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and have it sent to Ecuador through a
 merchant.
 
 
 
 I want to keep the FeLV positive cat
 with me, as chances are no one will want him or will take care of him the way
 he needs to. We have grown so fond of him, he’s such an adorable, loving cat. 
 I thought about dividing my apartment so the sick cat will not have to
 remain confined in just one room. I can have the cats’ alternate spaces every
 week, after disinfecting everything properly with Clorox and not letting them
 share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you think this will be a good idea?
 
 
 
 I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all going 
 through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we see even 
 a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read about your 
 experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only wants to sleep 
 and not be bothered, and others when he's happy and more active. He has kept 
 a good appetite overall, that gives me hope.
  Thanks for all your help, support and advice. I'm glad to be here.
  Michéle
  
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two

2013-05-02 Thread cerwin
Yes, I will. She sees my own vet next Monday for a
consult.

Thanks-Chris C.


From: Lance 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 4:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two

It's always a good idea to discuss any symptoms with Raja's vet. They may want 
to refer you to a veterinary ophthalmologist or other specialist just to 
confirm that nothing else is going on.

On May 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:


  Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It’s wonderful to have
  that worry alleviated so soon.

  I will try those foods, and the web site. I’ve seen Tiki Cat, and it does
  look delicious!

  Thanks again-Chris C.


  From: Lance 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two

  My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had changed 
quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it indicating 
the progress of the disease.  

  I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's 
definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably 
easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to me 
here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very appealing 
to them.

  This site has some good ideas:

  http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm

  On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:


I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter,
so as I said in my intro, I am new at this.
I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is
not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a
random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage
she is in, or anything else.
Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I’ve tried different
dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was
small to begin with.
Thanks so much!

Chris C.
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[Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-02 Thread Amanda Payne
Hello everyone!

This is my first time using this forum :)

I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two 
months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted plants 
in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet where she was diagnosed 
with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told we'd have to assist her to 
the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis.  Thankfully, she's a fighter 
and is still with us.  However, her appetite has been cause for worry.  She's 
crazy about Temptations Treats and deli ham (I know, not the most nutritious 
diet but I'm thankful for anything she eats).  The last two days, though, she 
won't eat.  I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, 
tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail.  I understand that the end may be 
near but I want to give everything a shot before I make that call.  

So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no to? 
I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!

Thank you,
-Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-02 Thread I-Chun C. C. Chang
Dear Amanda,

Here is a list of food I have been trying with my very picky Felv+, CRF
stage 4, 16 yrs old cat:

Can food:
Soulistic glee fish based cans (Petco store brand, the crf group finds that
it generally works works well to make cats to eat again)
AvoDerm TunaCrab
Fancy Feast, Classic tuna/salmon based can
Canyon Creek Ranch, Trout  Catfish
Weruva, Tuna  shirasu
Tiki cat, Tuna
BFF, Tuna Aspic
Simply nourish (Petsmart store brand), tuna  potato stew, salmon  chicken
stew, tuna  chicken stew

Treat: whole life
http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Life-Pet-Products-Natural/dp/B00ATWNJIY/ref=sr_1_4?s=pet-suppliesie=UTF8qid=1367545823sr=1-4

If none of above works, I would probably try syringe feeding to maintain
Polli's weight. For our cat, after her weight was low to some point, she
just stopped eating. But after we brought her weight back this week, she
starts eating by herself again (even though her anemic level has been
almost the same, pcv 9%-12%). Other possibility is to ask vet to prescribe
appetite stimulants like Mirtazapine, which I heard works pretty well. The
CRF group has a page talking about how to tempt cats to eat, although it is
not particular for FeLV + cats, but the techniques mentioned work on our
cat.
http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm

Hope this can help Polli...
Catherine



On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Amanda Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello everyone!

 This is my first time using this forum :)

 I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two
 months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted
 plants in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet where she
 was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told we'd have
 to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis.
  Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us.  However, her appetite
 has been cause for worry.  She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli
 ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she
 eats).  The last two days, though, she won't eat.  I've offered her baby
 food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats
 but to no avail.  I understand that the end may be near but I want to give
 everything a shot before I make that call.

 So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no
 to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!

 Thank you,
 -Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Basically, try anything in your refrigerator!  But things I've found that
sometimes worked:
Fancy Feast Classic Chicken
White Rose canned tuna (people tuna)
Yogurt
Cottage Cheese
Gerber Stage 3 baby food-ham or chicken or beef or turkey
Tuna water (from canned people tuna in water)
Liverwurst
Ham or prosciutto
Kentucky Fried Chicken (boneless)
Chicken soup

None are recommended for long term use--but when you're basically just
trying to get something in the cat, go for anything they want...Also,
sometimes, just heating the food (not yogurt or cott cheese) a bit makes it
have more of an aroma.  

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amanda Payne
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

Hello everyone!

This is my first time using this forum :)

I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two
months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted
plants in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet where she was
diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told we'd have to
assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis.  Thankfully,
she's a fighter and is still with us.  However, her appetite has been cause
for worry.  She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli ham (I know, not
the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she eats).  The last
two days, though, she won't eat.  I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat,
Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail.
I understand that the end may be near but I want to give everything a shot
before I make that call.  

So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no
to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!

Thank you,
-Amanda
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