Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread cerwin

Do cats with this have problems with their anal glands?

I'm sorry for your loss.

Chris C.


-Original Message- 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

I do know one thing, never trust a vet that says euthanize with no other 
alternatives.  My vet is great, he tells you what could happen and then says 
it is up to you to keep them or not.  My Annie is still going strong at 8 
years (she was 4 when I got her).  Nitnoy gave up her fight for life after I 
had her 2 years.  It was not the FELV that killed her, but blocked anal 
glands.  The ER vets missed that on sunday and I  did not know until I took 
her to my vet on Monday.  He checked her glands first thing, took care of 
them and I took her home to feed and love her.  It was too late, She died 
purring as she kneaded my shoulder.  You can believe that I drive the rest 
of my pride nuts checking their glands.  That is one thing I will not be 
remiss on again.  We learn as we go and each one of our babies teaches us 
something new.  Maybe when it is my time to go, I will have learned all 
there is to know.  In the meantime, I do my best, that is all I can do.

 Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

Hi Amanda,

   I'm sorry you're having this problem. First, I'd join Feline 
assisted feeding;


http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/

   It is very omportant you address this immediately, to avoid liver 
problems.


   You will probably have to learn to syringe feed, at least for a 
short time. Cats who stop eating (for whatever reason) can forget how. 
They need to be reminded. First, I'd ask your Vet for an appetite 
stimulant, I use cyproheptadine (Periactin) but Mirtazapine is also 
recommended. Buy a few cans of a/d, and a 10cc luer slip tip syringe. 
Hills a/d is a concentrated, pureed food that is meant to be syringe fed, 
and is easy to use. There are others like Clinicare, which is a liquid, 
but it's not readily available, and is really meant for tube feeding.


   Please don't second guess yourself, it's worth trying. My FeLV boy, 
Gribble, was in very bad shape at one point, and not expected to live. I 
syringe fed him for about 2 weeks after he decided eating was not 
something he wanted to do. That was in April. Today he's playing tag with 
the dog (his best buddy) and generally making life interesting for the 
rest of the cats in the household.


   You might want to check and see if the anemia has returned, that 
might be somewhere to start with treatment. Gribbs is on Interferon and 
DMG, but that's it right now.


All the best to you both,

Margo



-Original Message-
From: Amanda Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
Sent: May 2, 2013 9:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

Hello everyone!

This is my first time using this forum :)

I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about 
two months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our 
potted plants in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet 
where she was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told 
we'd have to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the 
diagnosis.  Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us.  However, 
her appetite has been cause for worry.  She's crazy about Temptations 
Treats and deli ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm 
thankful for anything she eats).  The last two days, though, she won't 
eat.  I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, 
tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail.  I understand that the end 
may be near but I want to give everything a shot before I make that call.


So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no 
to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!


Thank you,
-Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Thanks again for the responses.  I'm not sure if my original reply has been
posted yet or not.  Fortunately, Polli decided she liked food again late
Thursday night and has regained her appetite somewhat. She's extremely thin
now but is active and assisting me with cleaning and gardening.  She also
realized I keep some of her snacks in the fridge and has started going to
the fridge and meowing whenever she wants food.

I realize that more than likely her life will be a short one.  She isn't
the first FeLV+ cat that has found me and I doubt she'll be the last (they
literally show up at my door or in my yard). However, I feel that as long
as she's up and about, using her litter box, playing and drinking water, I
owe it to her to try to get her to eat.



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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread Margo



Hi Amanda,

 That's what I washoping to hear big smile. We all know that our FurKids are likely to be with us far less time than we would wish, but we do the best we can.

 Good for you, Polli!

All the Best,

Margo

-Original Message- From: "Amanda K. Payne" Sent: May 5, 2013 1:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten? 
Thanks again for the responses. I'm not sure if my original reply has been posted yet or not. Fortunately, Polli decided she liked food again late Thursday night and has regained her appetite somewhat. She's extremely thin now but is active and "assisting" me with cleaning and gardening. She also realized I keep some of her snacks in the fridge and has started going to the fridge and meowing whenever she wants food.

I realize that more than likely her life will be a short one. She isn't the first FeLV+ cat that has found me and I doubt she'll be the last (they literally show up at my door or in my yard). However, I feel that as long as she's up and about, using her litter box, playing and drinking water, I owe it to her to try to get her to eat.



-Amanda


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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread Beth
Agreed. As long as they act like they want to keep going, that's a good thing.

Beth

Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks again for the responses.  I'm not sure if my original reply has been
posted yet or not.  Fortunately, Polli decided she liked food again late
Thursday night and has regained her appetite somewhat. She's extremely thin
now but is active and assisting me with cleaning and gardening.  She also
realized I keep some of her snacks in the fridge and has started going to
the fridge and meowing whenever she wants food.

I realize that more than likely her life will be a short one.  She isn't
the first FeLV+ cat that has found me and I doubt she'll be the last (they
literally show up at my door or in my yard). However, I feel that as long
as she's up and about, using her litter box, playing and drinking water, I
owe it to her to try to get her to eat.



-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread dlgegg
Watch the fridge, my guys have learned to open every door and drawer in the 
house.  Right now Harley is helping me on the computer since it is raining and 
he cannot go out.
 .,,,/ signed Harley


 Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Thanks again for the responses.  I'm not sure if my original reply has been
 posted yet or not.  Fortunately, Polli decided she liked food again late
 Thursday night and has regained her appetite somewhat. She's extremely thin
 now but is active and assisting me with cleaning and gardening.  She also
 realized I keep some of her snacks in the fridge and has started going to
 the fridge and meowing whenever she wants food.
 
 I realize that more than likely her life will be a short one.  She isn't
 the first FeLV+ cat that has found me and I doubt she'll be the last (they
 literally show up at my door or in my yard). However, I feel that as long
 as she's up and about, using her litter box, playing and drinking water, I
 owe it to her to try to get her to eat.
 
 
 
 -Amanda


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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread dlgegg
Not always, it is just a secondary infection that they cannot fight off.  This 
just happens to be an infection that Nitnoy could not fight off.
 cer...@new.rr.com wrote: 
 Do cats with this have problems with their anal glands?
 
 I'm sorry for your loss.
 
 Chris C.
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
 
 I do know one thing, never trust a vet that says euthanize with no other 
 alternatives.  My vet is great, he tells you what could happen and then says 
 it is up to you to keep them or not.  My Annie is still going strong at 8 
 years (she was 4 when I got her).  Nitnoy gave up her fight for life after I 
 had her 2 years.  It was not the FELV that killed her, but blocked anal 
 glands.  The ER vets missed that on sunday and I  did not know until I took 
 her to my vet on Monday.  He checked her glands first thing, took care of 
 them and I took her home to feed and love her.  It was too late, She died 
 purring as she kneaded my shoulder.  You can believe that I drive the rest 
 of my pride nuts checking their glands.  That is one thing I will not be 
 remiss on again.  We learn as we go and each one of our babies teaches us 
 something new.  Maybe when it is my time to go, I will have learned all 
 there is to know.  In the meantime, I do my best, that is all I can do.
  Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Hi Amanda,
 
 I'm sorry you're having this problem. First, I'd join Feline 
  assisted feeding;
 
  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
 
 It is very omportant you address this immediately, to avoid liver 
  problems.
 
 You will probably have to learn to syringe feed, at least for a 
  short time. Cats who stop eating (for whatever reason) can forget how. 
  They need to be reminded. First, I'd ask your Vet for an appetite 
  stimulant, I use cyproheptadine (Periactin) but Mirtazapine is also 
  recommended. Buy a few cans of a/d, and a 10cc luer slip tip syringe. 
  Hills a/d is a concentrated, pureed food that is meant to be syringe fed, 
  and is easy to use. There are others like Clinicare, which is a liquid, 
  but it's not readily available, and is really meant for tube feeding.
 
 Please don't second guess yourself, it's worth trying. My FeLV boy, 
  Gribble, was in very bad shape at one point, and not expected to live. I 
  syringe fed him for about 2 weeks after he decided eating was not 
  something he wanted to do. That was in April. Today he's playing tag with 
  the dog (his best buddy) and generally making life interesting for the 
  rest of the cats in the household.
 
 You might want to check and see if the anemia has returned, that 
  might be somewhere to start with treatment. Gribbs is on Interferon and 
  DMG, but that's it right now.
 
  All the best to you both,
 
  Margo
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Amanda Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
  Sent: May 2, 2013 9:11 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
  
  Hello everyone!
  
  This is my first time using this forum :)
  
  I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about 
  two months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our 
  potted plants in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet 
  where she was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told 
  we'd have to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the 
  diagnosis.  Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us.  However, 
  her appetite has been cause for worry.  She's crazy about Temptations 
  Treats and deli ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm 
  thankful for anything she eats).  The last two days, though, she won't 
  eat.  I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, 
  tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail.  I understand that the end 
  may be near but I want to give everything a shot before I make that call.
  
  So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no 
  to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!
  
  Thank you,
  -Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread Cheri Le
How precious Amanda Thank you like all of us for taking on the trials of 
having a Felv kitty. It is heartbreaking at times but I would never take back 
bringing my baby into this house... I pray for you and pollis

CHERI

On May 5, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Agreed. As long as they act like they want to keep going, that's a good thing.
 
 Beth
 
 Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks again for the responses.  I'm not sure if my original reply has been
 posted yet or not.  Fortunately, Polli decided she liked food again late
 Thursday night and has regained her appetite somewhat. She's extremely thin
 now but is active and assisting me with cleaning and gardening.  She also
 realized I keep some of her snacks in the fridge and has started going to
 the fridge and meowing whenever she wants food.
 
 I realize that more than likely her life will be a short one.  She isn't
 the first FeLV+ cat that has found me and I doubt she'll be the last (they
 literally show up at my door or in my yard). However, I feel that as long
 as she's up and about, using her litter box, playing and drinking water, I
 owe it to her to try to get her to eat.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-05 Thread Cheri Le
Hugs to u Margo 

CHERI

On May 5, 2013, at 1:15 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:

 Do cats with this have problems with their anal glands?
 
 I'm sorry for your loss.
 
 Chris C.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
 
 I do know one thing, never trust a vet that says euthanize with no other 
 alternatives.  My vet is great, he tells you what could happen and then says 
 it is up to you to keep them or not.  My Annie is still going strong at 8 
 years (she was 4 when I got her).  Nitnoy gave up her fight for life after I 
 had her 2 years.  It was not the FELV that killed her, but blocked anal 
 glands.  The ER vets missed that on sunday and I  did not know until I took 
 her to my vet on Monday.  He checked her glands first thing, took care of 
 them and I took her home to feed and love her.  It was too late, She died 
 purring as she kneaded my shoulder.  You can believe that I drive the rest of 
 my pride nuts checking their glands.  That is one thing I will not be remiss 
 on again.  We learn as we go and each one of our babies teaches us something 
 new.  Maybe when it is my time to go, I will have learned all there is to 
 know.  In the meantime, I do my best, that is all I can do.
  Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Amanda,
 
   I'm sorry you're having this problem. First, I'd join Feline assisted 
 feeding;
 
 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
 
   It is very omportant you address this immediately, to avoid liver 
 problems.
 
   You will probably have to learn to syringe feed, at least for a short 
 time. Cats who stop eating (for whatever reason) can forget how. They need 
 to be reminded. First, I'd ask your Vet for an appetite stimulant, I use 
 cyproheptadine (Periactin) but Mirtazapine is also recommended. Buy a few 
 cans of a/d, and a 10cc luer slip tip syringe. Hills a/d is a concentrated, 
 pureed food that is meant to be syringe fed, and is easy to use. There are 
 others like Clinicare, which is a liquid, but it's not readily available, 
 and is really meant for tube feeding.
 
   Please don't second guess yourself, it's worth trying. My FeLV boy, 
 Gribble, was in very bad shape at one point, and not expected to live. I 
 syringe fed him for about 2 weeks after he decided eating was not something 
 he wanted to do. That was in April. Today he's playing tag with the dog (his 
 best buddy) and generally making life interesting for the rest of the cats 
 in the household.
 
   You might want to check and see if the anemia has returned, that might 
 be somewhere to start with treatment. Gribbs is on Interferon and DMG, but 
 that's it right now.
 
 All the best to you both,
 
 Margo
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amanda Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
 Sent: May 2, 2013 9:11 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
 
 Hello everyone!
 
 This is my first time using this forum :)
 
 I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two 
 months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted 
 plants in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet where she 
 was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told we'd have 
 to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis.  
 Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us.  However, her appetite 
 has been cause for worry.  She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli 
 ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything 
 she eats).  The last two days, though, she won't eat.  I've offered her 
 baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite 
 treats but to no avail.  I understand that the end may be near but I want 
 to give everything a shot before I make that call.
 
 So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no 
 to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!
 
 Thank you,
 -Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)

2013-05-05 Thread Cheri Le
Hi! I recently vaccinated my four kitties and intermingled with a positive cat. 
I feel great about it and since the integration my kitty is so much happier  
healthier! I admire your thoughts on doing it. I feel alone at times. 

CHERI

On May 3, 2013, at 5:49 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 So glad Abelardo is doing better!  Just keep giving him lots of love.  I 
 think that is one of the best things we can do for our FELV babies, let them 
 know they are loved.
 
 
  Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Dorlis, thank you so much for your message :)
 Abelardo is showing great progress, he has a huge appetite and is very 
 playful, one would never guess he's FeLV positive.
 When we rescued him, he slept all day and seemed to be tired all the time. 
 He had a urethral blockage and was hospitalized for 5 days. He has shown so 
 much improvement that our vet's hope are high, we don't know how long this 
 is going to last but we are so happy.
 Thanks for taking the time to send me this message, I'm looking forward to 
 hear from the rest of the group.
 Michéle
 
 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:19:47 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
 CC: atomicbetti...@hotmail.com
 
 There are others with more experience with young cats and you will be 
 hearing from them soon.
 
  Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a 
 male cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, 
 and that he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's 
 FeLV positive and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, 
 hematocrit, hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was 
 FeLV positive
 was an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my 
 country of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he 
 has
 been fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s 
 possible that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal 
 life. My research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats 
 usually
 live for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this 
 being a
 false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error 
 is
 very small.  I’ve read about cats that
 fight the virus and are able to eliminate it from their organisms, later
 testing negative for FeLV. I don’t want to have false expectations, but I 
 want
 to hang on to whatever hope there’s still out there for him.
 
 We've started him on a
 biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 weeks with Yatren 
 Caseína (an
 immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t know if it’s sold in the USA),
 which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. This is supposed to help him
 increase his white blood cells. We are
 hoping this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking 
 Isoprinosine and
 B complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I
 don’t know if my cat is receiving the best treatment or what should I do to
 increase the odds of him not having to suffer because of this terrible 
 illness.
 I’m willing to buy medicine from another country if needed.
 
 
 
 The vet advised to test my other
 cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I have a 9 year old cat who's in 
 perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he shared the litter box and bowls 
 with the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 hours, I didn't even think about 
 this as a risk, and now I feel terribly guilty for placing my beloved pet 
 in danger. If he isn't infected, then I
 should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in 
 Ecuador yet. I have to see if there are
 ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and have it sent to Ecuador through a
 merchant.
 
 
 
 I want to keep the FeLV positive cat
 with me, as chances are no one will want him or will take care of him the 
 way
 he needs to. We have grown so fond of him, he’s such an adorable, loving 
 cat. I thought about dividing my apartment so the sick cat will not have to
 remain confined in just one room. I can have the cats’ alternate spaces 
 every
 week, after disinfecting everything properly with Clorox and not letting 
 them
 share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you think this will be a good idea?
 
 
 
 I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all 
 going through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we 
 see even a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read 
 about your experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only 
 wants to sleep and not be bothered, and others when he's happy and more 
 active. He has kept a good appetite overall, that gives me hope.
 Thanks for all your help, support and advice. I'm glad to be here.
 Michéle
 
 
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