[Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols

2013-06-09 Thread kasia mosko


Hello All,

I've came across this website with treatments for Felv, and was wondering if 
anyone ever tried anything (I know some members tried Interferon Alpha)? The 
link is 
http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.shtml 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols

2013-06-09 Thread Lance
Of those on the list, I've only used inteferon alpha and Dimethylglycine (DMG). 
Interferon is fairly affordable, while DMG is cheap and available in a number 
of formats (liquid, powder, treat). I can't vouch for whether or not they 
work. We have no studies that I know of for DMG use on FeLV+ cats, and 
interferon alpha studies show possible help, but nothing that says it will 
definitely improve anything.

ImmunoRegulin - I believe I spoke to Dr. Thomas (an article about her use of IR 
is listed on that page) about ImmunoRegulin. If I remember right, she hasn't 
used the drug for cats in a long time, but I don't think this was due to any 
problem with it. She still said it had done some good.

Acemannan - Ember's first vet to treat her for FeLV had tried using this drug 
on cats a long time ago, and he didn't see any use in it. 

Lymphocyte T-Cell Immune Modulator - This is a relatively new product, and my 
understanding is that adequate studies have not been conducted. My vet wasn't 
impressed. A cat in town is getting it for something related to sneezing, and 
the owner is happy with the cat's progress. I don't know anything about the 
case; just that my vet talked to another vet here about it. It shouldn't hurt, 
and I'm considering it. 

Staph Protein A - I know nothing about this one and don't know that I've ever 
heard of anyone using it.

Baypamun - http://www.felineleukemia.org/baypamun.html You can search the 
list archives for this, but I'm not sure it's even available. That page on the 
site hasn't been updated in quite awhile. 

How is Jack doing today?

Lance

On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:24 AM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Hello All,
 
 I've came across this website with treatments for Felv, and was wondering if 
 anyone ever tried anything (I know some members tried Interferon Alpha)? The 
 link is 
 http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.shtml 
 
 Best, 
 Kasia
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Re: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols

2013-06-09 Thread Margo



Hi Kasia,

 Well, that's the website for this list, so that's where I got a lot my info from, at least as a starting point.

 Both my positive boys on the Interferon 7 days on, 7 days off. My Vet is holding ImmunoRegulin for me, for possible future use. That's about it, for now.

 Gribble was very sick at diagnosis some kind of URI (which we now think is herpes) andan extremely high fever, which then went very low. His WBCwas 2.7, but everything else was WNL.We decided then only thing to do was to treat symptomatically, so we basically threw thebook at him.Hewas treated with Zenequin, Naxcel, Ketoprofen, and later famciclovir. DMG and Interferon were added as soon as we got it.

 Something worked, and after a couple of weeks, he was doing much better.

 For now he and Mako (also FeLV positive) are getting the Interferon and famciclovir, because the URI seemed to be starting again. All my cats are currently on L-Lysine for the herpes, but it is not always 100% effective with the immune compromised ones. Does seem to help, though.

 I hope others will be able to add more.

HTH,

Margo


 -Original Message- From: kasia mosko Sent: Jun 9, 2013 12:24 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols 


Hello All,

I've came across this website with treatments for Felv, and was wondering if anyone ever tried anything (I know some members tried Interferon Alpha)? The link is
http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.shtml

Best,
Kasia

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[Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence

2013-06-09 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Hi Everyone!

I have two questions today regarding FeLV.

First, for anyone who has worked in the rescue world, what is your testing
protocol?  I volunteer w/ several cat/kitten rescues in Los Angeles.  I
recently found a litter in my garage and they're staying in my guest room
until I can find a foster.  I have two FeLV+ cats so I'm overly cautious
and don't want other cats in the house, even if they're in the spare room
away from my cats.  One of the rescues found another foster for the litter
but the new foster has a cat.  I got to talking to her about FeLV and now
she won't take the kittens without them being tested--which I TOTALLY agree
with. However, the rescue doesn't seem to think it necessary.  Am I just
paranoid?  I think all cats and kittens should be tested before being
introduced into a new household.  However, I feel like an ass for talking
too much because I may have wrecked their potential foster home. I also
know that testing isn't the most economical thing to do--LAAS doesn't even
test their animals until they are adopted out. How does everyone feel about
testing vs. not testing?

Also, my girl, Polli (the one who wasn't eating a few weeks ago) has
terrible gas.  It clears the room.  She's eating, drinking and using the
litter box fine. She's always had problems with flatulence but now that
she's showing signs of leukemia related illnesses, I once again just want
to make sure it's not a sign of something bigger.  Anyone have FeLV kitties
with gas?  Or a gassy cat for that matter?

Talk to ya'll soon and I hope everyone's kitties are doing well!

Best,
-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence

2013-06-09 Thread Margo



Hi Amanda,

 I've been involve in rescue for more than 30 years. I've always tested, and always will, but I no longer trust the negatives to stay negative. I think all it's really demonstrating is that the cat/kitten does not have an active infection, and is therefore not contagious _at that time_. With kittens who have been isolated by litter,I'm trying to find out how a negative Momcat could transmit the virus to her kittens, so any thoughts on that would be welcome. 

 A rescue that doesn't test is acting badly. I've worked with and for private 501c3s, and County facilities. They all tested for FeLV. There is no excuse for subjecting an adopter to finding out that the companionwho is a big art of the familyis terminally ill, and maybe at only a year or two old. LAAS allows cats to be put up for adoption BEFORE testing ?? That's just plain wrong. But, the down side is that rescues usually euthanize positives without allowing time for them to possibly convert to negative. And even if it does later test negative, how do you know that they've truly cleared the virus, and it isn't still lurking in the cat to return later.
 Still, I think testing is the only way a rescue can be responsible when offering cats/kittens for adoption. There are ways to reduce the cost, but it needs to be done. Of course, it is no guarantee that the FurKid will remain healthy, but it's something. Cats and kittens can have many problems, but we do the best we can.

 Sorry, a bit of a hot button for me, I'm afraid.

Margo


-Original Message- From: "Amanda K. Payne" Sent: Jun 9, 2013 4:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence 
Hi Everyone!

I have two questions today regarding FeLV.

First, for anyone who has worked in the rescue world, what is your testing protocol? I volunteer w/ several cat/kitten rescues in Los Angeles. I recently found a litter in my garage and they're staying in my guest room until I can find a foster. I have two FeLV+ cats so I'm overly cautious and don't want other cats in the house, even if they're in the spare room away from my cats. One of the rescues found another foster for the litter but the new foster has a cat. I got to talking to her about FeLV and now she won't take the kittens without them being tested--which I TOTALLY agree with. However, the rescue doesn't seem to think it necessary. Am I just paranoid? I think all cats and kittens should be tested before being introduced into a new household. However, I feel like an ass for talking too much because I may have wrecked their potential foster home. I also know that testing isn't the most economical thing to do--LAAS doesn't even test their animals until they are adopted out. How does everyone feel about testing vs. not testing?

Also, my girl, Polli (the one who wasn't eating a few weeks ago) has terrible gas. It clears the room. She's eating, drinking and using the litter box fine. She's always had problems with flatulence but now that she's showing signs of leukemia related illnesses, I once again just want to make sure it's not a sign of something bigger. Anyone have FeLV kitties with gas? Or a gassy cat for that matter?

Talk to ya'll soon and I hope everyone's kitties are doing well!

Best,
-Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence

2013-06-09 Thread Margo



Oh Dear !

 I forgot about Polli. I apologize for that, I meant to include it.

What Is Polli eating? Drinking? Meds, supplements?

^..^

-Original Message- From: "Amanda K. Payne" Sent: Jun 9, 2013 4:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence 
Hi Everyone!

I have two questions today regarding FeLV.

First, for anyone who has worked in the rescue world, what is your testing protocol? I volunteer w/ several cat/kitten rescues in Los Angeles. I recently found a litter in my garage and they're staying in my guest room until I can find a foster. I have two FeLV+ cats so I'm overly cautious and don't want other cats in the house, even if they're in the spare room away from my cats. One of the rescues found another foster for the litter but the new foster has a cat. I got to talking to her about FeLV and now she won't take the kittens without them being tested--which I TOTALLY agree with. However, the rescue doesn't seem to think it necessary. Am I just paranoid? I think all cats and kittens should be tested before being introduced into a new household. However, I feel like an ass for talking too much because I may have wrecked their potential foster home. I also know that testing isn't the most economical thing to do--LAAS doesn't even test their animals until they are adopted out. How does everyone feel about testing vs. not testing?

Also, my girl, Polli (the one who wasn't eating a few weeks ago) has terrible gas. It clears the room. She's eating, drinking and using the litter box fine. She's always had problems with flatulence but now that she's showing signs of leukemia related illnesses, I once again just want to make sure it's not a sign of something bigger. Anyone have FeLV kitties with gas? Or a gassy cat for that matter?

Talk to ya'll soon and I hope everyone's kitties are doing well!

Best,
-Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence

2013-06-09 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Margo,

I agree with you.  I think every rescue and shelter should test prior
adopting a cat out or placing it in a foster home where it will mingle with
resident cats.  Unfortunately, Los Angeles Animal Services (LAAS) and many
other cat rescues feel it's unnecessary.  I'm going to try to find
veterinarians or RVTs in the area who are willing to donate or discount
their services so that I can talk some of these rescues into testing.

As for Polli, she's a picky eater these days.  She drinks a lot of fresh
water and is eating Blue Buffalo Healthy Living dry food.  Occasionally,
she'll actually eat her Tiki Cat instead of just liking the gravy off.
 She's also obsessed with Temptations Treats--not the healthiest snacks but
she loves them and we indulge it.  I give her Pet-Tinic twice a day to help
with her anemia and Viralys in the morning.

Thanks, Margo!

-Amanda




On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:


  Oh Dear !



   I forgot about Polli. I apologize for that, I meant to
 include it.



   What Is Polli eating? Drinking? Meds, supplements?



 ^..^



 -Original Message-
 From: Amanda K. Payne **
 Sent: Jun 9, 2013 4:57 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescuing Kittens and Positive Kitty w/ Flatulence

 Hi Everyone!

 I have two questions today regarding FeLV.

 First, for anyone who has worked in the rescue world, what is your testing
 protocol?  I volunteer w/ several cat/kitten rescues in Los Angeles.  I
 recently found a litter in my garage and they're staying in my guest room
 until I can find a foster.  I have two FeLV+ cats so I'm overly cautious
 and don't want other cats in the house, even if they're in the spare room
 away from my cats.  One of the rescues found another foster for the litter
 but the new foster has a cat.  I got to talking to her about FeLV and now
 she won't take the kittens without them being tested--which I TOTALLY agree
 with. However, the rescue doesn't seem to think it necessary.  Am I just
 paranoid?  I think all cats and kittens should be tested before being
 introduced into a new household.  However, I feel like an ass for talking
 too much because I may have wrecked their potential foster home. I also
 know that testing isn't the most economical thing to do--LAAS doesn't even
 test their animals until they are adopted out. How does everyone feel about
 testing vs. not testing?

 Also, my girl, Polli (the one who wasn't eating a few weeks ago) has
 terrible gas.  It clears the room.  She's eating, drinking and using the
 litter box fine. She's always had problems with flatulence but now that
 she's showing signs of leukemia related illnesses, I once again just want
 to make sure it's not a sign of something bigger.  Anyone have FeLV kitties
 with gas?  Or a gassy cat for that matter?

 Talk to ya'll soon and I hope everyone's kitties are doing well!

 Best,
 -Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols-Lance

2013-06-09 Thread kasia mosko


Hi Lance,


Of those on the list, I've only used inteferon alpha.
***Did you start using it before your cat has shown any symptoms? 

How is Jack doing today?
*** So far Jack has been doing really good. It took him only two days to get 
back to normal, and the fluid in his chest stopped building up as well. He 
eats soo much; much more than he used to, but it is ok, because he is only over 
6 pounds now.  It is his second week on chemo and no side effects so far; 
hopefully it will stay this way.

 

Lance

On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:24 AM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Hello All,
 
 I've came across this website with treatments for Felv, and was wondering if 
 anyone ever tried anything (I know some members tried Interferon Alpha)? The 
 link is 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols-Lance

2013-06-09 Thread Lance
Yes, the vet who confirmed Ember's status started her on interferon 
immediately, which was a bit over seven years ago. DMG requires no 
prescription, and people give it to healthy animals that have no illnesses. If 
you're considering it, I would recommend discussing DMG with your vet, just to 
be on the safe side.

Glad to hear that Jack is doing well. The folks on the lymphoma list seem to 
have had pretty good results with chemo. 

On Jun 9, 2013, at 10:41 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Hi Lance,
 
 
 Of those on the list, I've only used inteferon alpha.
 ***Did you start using it before your cat has shown any symptoms? 
 
 How is Jack doing today?
 *** So far Jack has been doing really good. It took him only two days to get 
 back to normal, and the fluid in his chest stopped building up as well. He 
 eats soo much; much more than he used to, but it is ok, because he is only 
 over 6 pounds now.  It is his second week on chemo and no side effects so 
 far; hopefully it will stay this way.
 
  
 
 Lance

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