[Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Shelley Theye
Hi,

I finally was able to join your list and am so excited to be able to check in 
for advice and any questions I might have for my cat Leo.

Some history-
I trapped Leo last summer to TNR for a neighbor who offered to keep/feed him 
outdoors.  He seemed feral, and was an elusive neighborhood stray for about 3 
years prior.  We think we know where he was born, as we rescued kittens that 
were probably younger than him at that time, and they look very similar, from a 
house where the owners moved and left the cats behind. :-(  He has been chased 
out of yards and finally had a yard to call home with this person, but he 
tested positive for FeLV last summer and the neighbor would not commit to more 
in-depth care even though he said he would continue to feed him outdoors in his 
yard.

So, I ended up keeping him as an indoor cat,  and he is tame now after housing 
him in a taming cage that I learned about from the feral cat yahoo group.  He 
is afraid of new things, but is very sweet and gentle.
Right now I am keeping him separate from my other 3 indoor cats who are not 
vaccinated for FeLV, and one has some
pretty bad aggression issues

Back on July 19, 2012, he was tested with a snap test for FeLV/FIV/heartworm, 
he tested weak positive for FeLV, neg for the others.
The test used was slightly expired by a few months (was a test kit from our 
rescue group, and I would have liked to have retested that day with a fresh in 
date kit, but I didn't find out results until the end of that day when he was 
wide awake and still assumed to be feral...)

I tried to bring him in a few days after that to a different vet to get 
retested, but the vet clinic shook him out of the carrier and freaked him out 
chasing him around the room, and he bit the tech through a towel and had to be 
quarantined for 10 days for rabies, since his vacc. was less than 10 days old.  
I was so upset wondering if that was the time he could maybe throw the virus 
off, and he would be under so much stress as a feral cat in quarantine.  :-( 

He had to go to a vet again, in Nov, 2012 because I thought he had a urinary 
blockage, but he ended up being OK.  Anyway, this vet retested him because he 
was very cooperative, with a SNAP 2 test (no heartworm), and I asked them to 
use serum, assuming first vet used blood but I was not certain of that at the 
time.  It was positive again.

So, now it's a year later, he is seemingly healthy, teeth look good, good 
appetite, he is about 4 years old.  
I am wanting to do an IFA test.   Do you think that he could still be negative 
after this long?

At his check up yesterday, he received a Rabies Purevax vaccine, and I haven't 
done an FVRCP booster yet.  He had one FVRCP last summer.  The vet suggested 
adding Lysine powder, so I have that now, and she mentioned that they can add 
Interferon to ringers solution and that one bag would last a long time, haven't 
done that yet.

Just would love to get some thoughts on retesting and Interferon.  Also, he 
initially was said to have a grade 3 heart murmur while under anesthesia for 
his neuter, but it hasn't been heard since...

So, with 2 positive SNAP tests (first one with slightly expired test kit)- is a 
neg. IFA still a possibility?
Do you give FVRCP vacc. to your cats?  
Thoughts on using Lysine and Interferon?

Thanks so much!
Shelley



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Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Beth
Hi Shelley -
First of all, thanks for giving this guy a chance  not immediately putting him 
down.

1) A negative IFA does NOT mean the cat is not FeLV positive. It simply means 
the virus is not replicating in his bone marrow.
    If a cat has a positive SNAP test, he is still positive.
    If you do get an IFA  it is positive, it simply means he will not throw 
the virus off.
2) Those 3-way SNAP tests that test for heartworms are notoriously unreliable. 
Our
 shelter stopped using them after we had a slew of cats test 
 postitive for FeLV. They were retested on the 2-way test twice,  and came 
up negative.
3) It is too late now, but I would never give an FelV cat an FVRCP vaccine. I 
did that once to 2 sisters I had. One immediately became ill (she had 
    been healthy up until then)  died shortly afterward. Her sister died soon 
after. I have heard of other FeLV cats getting sick right after FVRCP 
    vaccines. Not need to stress their immune systems out unless there is some 
seriously good reason why you need to vaccinate. 

4) I don't think L-Lysine can hurt. It's pretty cheap  you can get it in a 
powder form you can sprinkle over their food.
5) I have used Interferon in the past, but from what I understand it takes a 
long time to work. I stopped because I felt like I was stressing the cats out 

    too much with the daily medicine routine. Plus you have to give it to them 
the right way. You can't just squirt it randomly in their mouths.
6) I think the best thing you can do is feed a high-quality food  keep stress 
down.

Good luck!

Beth
 
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 From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 9:12 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions
 

Hi,

I finally was able to join your list and am so excited to be able to check in 
for advice and any questions I might have for my cat Leo.

Some history-
I trapped Leo last summer to TNR for a neighbor who offered to keep/feed him 
outdoors.  He seemed feral, and was an elusive neighborhood stray for about 3 
years prior.  We think we know where he was born, as we rescued kittens that 
were probably younger than him at that time, and they look very similar, from a 
house where the owners moved and left the cats behind. :-(  He has been chased 
out of yards and finally had a yard to call home with this person, but he 
tested positive for FeLV last summer and the neighbor would not commit to more 
in-depth care even though he said he would continue to feed him outdoors in his 
yard.

So, I ended up keeping him as an indoor cat,  and he is tame now after housing 
him in a taming cage that I learned about from the feral cat yahoo group.  He 
is afraid of new things, but is very sweet and gentle.
Right now I am keeping him separate from my other 3 indoor cats who are not 
vaccinated for FeLV, and one has some
pretty bad aggression issues

Back on July 19, 2012, he was tested with a snap test for FeLV/FIV/heartworm, 
he tested weak positive for FeLV, neg for the others.
The test used was slightly expired by a few months (was a test kit from our 
rescue group, and I would have liked to have retested that day with a fresh in 
date kit, but I didn't find out results until the end of that day when he was 
wide awake and still assumed to be feral...)

I tried to bring him in a few days after that to a different vet to get 
retested, but the vet clinic shook him out of the carrier and freaked him out 
chasing him around the room, and he bit the tech through a towel and had to be 
quarantined for 10 days for rabies, since his vacc. was less than 10 days old.  
I was so upset wondering if that was the time he could maybe throw the virus 
off, and he would be under so much stress as a feral cat in quarantine.  :-( 

He had to go to a vet again, in Nov, 2012 because I thought he had a urinary 
blockage, but he ended up being OK.  Anyway, this vet retested him because he 
was very cooperative, with a SNAP 2 test (no heartworm), and I asked them to 
use serum, assuming first vet used blood but I was not certain of that at the 
time.  It was positive again.

So, now it's a year later, he is seemingly healthy, teeth look good, good 
appetite, he is about 4 years old.  
I am wanting to do an IFA test.   Do you think that he could still be negative 
after this long?

At his check up yesterday, he received a Rabies Purevax vaccine, and I haven't 
done an FVRCP booster yet.  He had one FVRCP last summer.  The vet suggested 
adding Lysine powder, so I have that now, and she mentioned that they can add 
Interferon to ringers solution and that one bag would last a long time, haven't 
done that yet.

Just would love to get some thoughts on retesting and Interferon.  Also, he 
initially was said to have a grade 3 heart murmur while under anesthesia for 
his neuter, but it hasn't been heard since...

So, with 2 positive SNAP tests 

Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Shelley Theye
Hi Beth,

Thank you so much for the fast reply!
I should give credit to the vet that neutered him too.  She said that she would 
never 
put a cat down just because he/she tests positive.  I guess that is why she 
didn't call me right
after she tested him that morning, and waited until I went in to pick him up at 
the end of the day
to let me know.  That is not the same mindset as other vets around here.  

So, just to follow up, if IFA turned out to be negative, does that mean he 
could still possibly throw off the virus?
Or does that only happen very early on?  I was reading a flow chart for 
testing, and it sounds like 
testing can go on for months and months if the SNAP and IFA don't match with 
either both pos. or both 
neg. results?

Thank you so much for letting me know about the FVRCP vaccine.  He was given 
that vaccine at his
initial visit last year.  She actually wanted to give him a 4 week booster back 
then, but I didn't go back
and do it at that time, because he was still 'feral' and I didn't want to add 
any stress, and wasn't really
sure if more than one was needed for an adult.

Now I will NOT get him another FVRCP at all.  I only asked for Purevax Rabies 
yesterday, not wanting to do 2 vaccines
in one office visit either way.  I will try to bring him in again for the IFA 
test, since this clinic is only a few miles away, and 
they also blend holistic and traditional, which is why I am also trying them 
for Leo.

Thanks so much!  By the way, if Leo was related to the other kittens from the 
abandoned house, they all were negative 
when tested.  That owner took the 2 mom cats with him eventually, so I don't 
know if they both were neg.  But I am guessing
that he acquired this as an adult or he wouldn't have lived this long?

Shelley

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On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Beth wrote:

 Hi Shelley -
 First of all, thanks for giving this guy a chance  not immediately putting 
 him down.
 
 1) A negative IFA does NOT mean the cat is not FeLV positive. It simply means 
 the virus is not replicating in his bone marrow.
 If a cat has a positive SNAP test, he is still positive.
 If you do get an IFA  it is positive, it simply means he will not throw 
 the virus off.
 2) Those 3-way SNAP tests that test for heartworms are notoriously 
 unreliable. Our shelter stopped using them after we had a slew of cats test 
  postitive for FeLV. They were retested on the 2-way test twice,  and 
 came up negative.
 3) It is too late now, but I would never give an FelV cat an FVRCP vaccine. I 
 did that once to 2 sisters I had. One immediately became ill (she had 
 been healthy up until then)  died shortly afterward. Her sister died 
 soon after. I have heard of other FeLV cats getting sick right after FVRCP 
 vaccines. Not need to stress their immune systems out unless there is 
 some seriously good reason why you need to vaccinate. 
 4) I don't think L-Lysine can hurt. It's pretty cheap  you can get it in a 
 powder form you can sprinkle over their food.
 5) I have used Interferon in the past, but from what I understand it takes a 
 long time to work. I stopped because I felt like I was stressing the cats out 
 too much with the daily medicine routine. Plus you have to give it to 
 them the right way. You can't just squirt it randomly in their mouths.
 6) I think the best thing you can do is feed a high-quality food  keep 
 stress down.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Beth
  
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 From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 9:12 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions
 
 Hi,
 
 I finally was able to join your list and am so excited to be able to check in 
 for advice and any questions I might have for my cat Leo.
 
 Some history-
 I trapped Leo last summer to TNR for a neighbor who offered to keep/feed him 
 outdoors.  He seemed feral, and was an elusive neighborhood stray for about 3 
 years prior.  We think we know where he was born, as we rescued kittens that 
 were probably younger than him at that time, and they look very similar, from 
 a house where the owners moved and left the cats behind. :-(  He has been 
 chased out of yards and finally had a yard to call home with this person, but 
 he tested positive for FeLV last summer and the neighbor would not commit to 
 more in-depth care even though he said he would continue to feed him outdoors 
 in his yard.
 
 So, I ended up keeping him as an indoor cat,  and he is tame now after 
 housing him in a taming cage that I learned about from the feral cat yahoo 
 group.  He is afraid of new things, but is very sweet and gentle.
 Right now I am keeping him separate from my other 3 indoor cats who are not 
 vaccinated for FeLV, and one has some
 pretty bad aggression issues
 
 Back on July 19, 2012, he was tested with a snap test for FeLV/FIV/heartworm, 
 he tested weak positive for FeLV, neg for the 

Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
I can sure empathize with your friend, my bf and I care for over 20
colonies.  The rescue bills over the years have taken any credit we can
find, we have no money for a home (health/dental etc) for ourselves, and
our daily lives completely hinge on the weather and our colonies, not to
mention work, TNR and the tons of rescue that goes with all of this.  We
just this week had a litter of kittens dumped at one of our spots (an
obvious dumping as opposed to wandered up kittens--all the cats are
fixed) with one kitten needing a blood transfusion, and already had several
kittens in rescue.

So I can absolutely relate...I'm not familliar with any Texas groups other
than ShadowCats, but hope perhaps there is a group that gets damaged goods
from grocery stores that could help with food?  We used to get that though
haven't in about a year, it was through a rescue group so I can't offer any
pointers on how to find that but it's certainly worth inquiring with any
group she can find.

If they have good low-cost TNR clinics there, she should check with them
and any shelters that support TNR and might have a food bank.  Our Humane
Society has a food bank for needy people with pets and will allow
caretakers in need to draw upon this a bit, if they have sufficient stock.

If I think of any ideas I will post, please let your friend know there are
others out there in similar dire straits--not much consolation, I know!

Thank you for trying to help her, I hope support is found.

Heather

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is probably not allowed on this list but I can't just stand by and
 see my friend Karen suffer. She has been feeding about 16 outdoor colonies.
 She watches over the health and welfare of these cats as if they were her
 own house cats. Recently, she has had a really bad run of luck. She rescued
 a cat who needed over $1,000 dollars in eye surgery. i have him now and the
 surgery saved his one remaining eye. Otherwise, he would have been a
 totally blind cat. She also rescued a cat who was bone thin and  combo
 tested positive for both FIV and FeLv cat. She spent several hundred
 dollars curing him of mange and anemia. I fostered the cat and he turned
 negative for FeLv. He's now in my FIV room with 4 other FIV+ cats. Karen
 has rescued and found homes for over a hundred hard case cats, including 3
 FeLv+ cats who did not turn. One of them is still alive and enjoying life
 as a healthy pampered puss with a lovely lady. The cat is over  6 years old
 now. Karen works an 8 hour a day job. The trouble is that she spends all
 her pay on feeding the colony cats and her three remaining indoor cats. She
 has spent over $1,000 for a cat she rescued and took into her own house and
 who after a year, developed a malignant tumor in her ear canal. The cat
 lived with it for several months, on medication and vitamins until she
 passed away suddenly one afternoon. And now, another disaster has hit my
 friend. He car died. She has been relying on friends and neighbors to get
 her to work but she is struggling with the cat colony feeding and is
 running out of money to feed them and even to buy her own food. She needs
 help and there is very little available in San Antonio where we both live.
 I am almost at the poverty level myself, with an online job that pays
 sporadically and two other jobs which are exhausting because they involve a
 lot of driving and delivering so I can't help Karen financially. I have
 over 3 dozen cats of my own to deal with. Karen spends more than $70 a week
 every week. At that rate she will never be able to replace her car, even
 with a junker.  Is there any help out there for Karen before she goes
 under? I was thinking that if people could donate pet food gift cards to
 her that would help alleviate some of the expense of feeding the colonies.
 One person has already done this by calling Petsmart and purchasing a gift
 card over the phone with his credit card. He then notified Karen that he
 had done this and the next time she went to the store, they told her she
 had a gift card credit. I think that all pet food stores have this system
 now. Anyway, if you are able to help, even a few dollars would be a
 blessing. I'm sorry to bother the list with this problem as we are all
 struggling with vet bills for our special needs cats but I am watching my
 friend get more and more depressed and desperate every day and I can't just
 stand by and do nothing. Lots of cats are depending on her for their very
 lives. Thanks for reading this long post. Contact me off list if you can
 help.

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Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Lee Evans

Hi. I have had experience with three FeLv+ cats turning to negative. You
 have to keep them for about 3 months, then retest with the SNAP non 
heartworm test. I had no idea that the three way test can cause a false 
positive. Anyway, have him retested with a fresh SNAP test and if it's 
negative, it's negative. I have three mixed in with my other cats and no
 problems so far. One has been there for six years and is getting old 
but that's the only problem he has experienced in his entire life after I
 took him in about 5 years ago. As for Interferon or any other major 
medication, if Leo is not having any symptoms, you don't have to stress 
him out with a whole lot of medication. The Lysine is a good preventive 
for several problems in cats so do give him that. There is a formula 
made just for cats. I tried dumping a 500mg capsule divided into their
 4 water bowls and the result was a boycott of the water. I tasted some 
of the lysine powder and it was awful, bitter. So much for an easy 
solution.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Lee Evans
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, Karen and I have both worked on this 
problem, I on the computer and Karen asking friends, rescuers and others for 
some help, mostly to no avail. The TNR group here is San Antonio Feral Cat 
Coalition. They do not have a shelter situation so get very little cat food 
donations. They have already contributed to her as much as they can but as I 
said, she has to feed these cats every day. She is getting free TNR 
certificates from Animal Care Services which is out local kill-everything 
shelter but the city came on board with kicking and screaming when we were 
trying to force the TNR idea into the animal laws. They finally accepted it 
when public opinion soared in favor and the local newspaper printed several 
articles in support and against what was taking place at the kill shelter (gas 
chamber). But that still leaves Karen without a car and without money to buy 
one if she doesn't get some donations to help with the cat
 food. It's not organizations I'm asking now, it's just individuals who can 
spare a few dollars to call in to Petsmart, Pet Supplies Plus and Petco to get 
her gift cards on file so she can purchase the cat food with at least a little 
help. She also has rent and utilities to pay, which is sucking money out of her 
paycheck and she is not eligible for any steady help from anywhere else because 
she has a job. 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Beth
The Lysine powder for cats can actually come in flavors. The gel is not bad 
tasting at all, either. In fact I wouldn't mind taking it. I sprinkle the 
powder on the dry food  they have no problem with it.

Beth


 
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 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions
 



Hi. I have had experience with three FeLv+ cats turning to negative. You
 have to keep them for about 3 months, then retest with the SNAP non 
heartworm test. I had no idea that the three way test can cause a false 
positive. Anyway, have him retested with a fresh SNAP test and if it's 
negative, it's negative. I have three mixed in with my other cats and no
 problems so far. One has been there for six years and is getting old 
but that's the only problem he has experienced in his entire life after I
 took him in about 5 years ago. As for Interferon or any other major 
medication, if Leo is not having any symptoms, you don't have to stress 
him out with a whole lot of medication. The Lysine is a good preventive 
for several problems in cats so do give him that. There is a formula 
made just for cats. I tried dumping a 500mg capsule divided into their
 4 water bowls and the result was a boycott of the water. I tasted some 
of the lysine powder and it was awful, bitter. So much for an easy 
solution.





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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
I understand all too well.  I've been having great difficulty feeling very
alone in the daily commitment, let alone the financial side.

Is there a paypal address that can be shared publicly (like on facebook)
for donations?  It might help a little if there were a 501(c)3 rescue who
will allow donations to be sent to them, noted for Karen's work, that will
then purchase food for her (since people are often more inclined to donate
to 501(c)3.

If there is further contact info that can be shared on fb, let me know and
I will.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, Karen and I have both worked on this
 problem, I on the computer and Karen asking friends, rescuers and others
 for some help, mostly to no avail. The TNR group here is San Antonio Feral
 Cat Coalition. They do not have a shelter situation so get very little cat
 food donations. They have already contributed to her as much as they can
 but as I said, she has to feed these cats every day. She is getting free
 TNR certificates from Animal Care Services which is out local
 kill-everything shelter but the city came on board with kicking and
 screaming when we were trying to force the TNR idea into the animal laws.
 They finally accepted it when public opinion soared in favor and the local
 newspaper printed several articles in support and against what was taking
 place at the kill shelter (gas chamber). But that still leaves Karen
 without a car and without money to buy one if she doesn't get some
 donations to help with the cat food. It's not organizations I'm asking now,
 it's just individuals who can spare a few dollars to call in to Petsmart,
 Pet Supplies Plus and Petco to get her gift cards on file so she can
 purchase the cat food with at least a little help. She also has rent and
 utilities to pay, which is sucking money out of her paycheck and she is not
 eligible for any steady help from anywhere else because she has a job.

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Beth
Kudos to your vet. I was lucky to have a great vet when I found my 1st FeLV 
cat. She never even mentioned euthanizing. She just laid out a plan for 
integrating them into the household.


If the IFA is negative he could still throw off the virus.
In my experience most cats born with FeLV do not live much more than a year. 
I do have one right now that I got as a 3 month old kitten. I don't know for 
sure if she was born with it. She lived outside an empty house. No idea what 
happened to mom. But she is about 3 years old  doing great. Fingers crossed :)


 Beth


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 From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions
 

Hi Beth,

Thank you so much for
 the fast reply!
I should give credit to the vet that neutered him too.  She said that she would 
never 
put a cat down just because he/she tests positive.  I guess that is why she 
didn't call me right
after she tested him that morning, and waited until I went in to pick him up at 
the end of the day
to let me know.  That is not the same mindset as other vets around here.  

So, just to follow up, if IFA turned out to be negative, does that mean he 
could still possibly throw off the virus?
Or does that only happen very early on?  I was reading a flow chart for 
testing, and it sounds like 
testing can go on for months and months if the SNAP and IFA don't match with 
either both pos. or both 
neg. results?

Thank you so much for letting me know about the FVRCP vaccine.  He was given 
that vaccine at his
initial visit last year.  She actually wanted to give him a 4 week booster back 
then,
 but I didn't go back
and do it at that time, because he was still 'feral' and I didn't want to add 
any stress, and wasn't really
sure if more than one was needed for an adult.

Now I will NOT get him another FVRCP at all.  I only asked for Purevax Rabies 
yesterday, not wanting to do 2 vaccines
in one office visit either way.  I will try to bring him in again for the IFA 
test, since this clinic is only a few miles away, and 
they also blend holistic and traditional, which is why I am also trying them 
for Leo.

Thanks so much!  By the way, if Leo was related to the other kittens from the 
abandoned house, they all were negative 
when tested.  That owner took the 2 mom cats with him eventually, so I don't 
know if they both were neg.  But I am guessing
that he acquired this as an adult or he wouldn't have lived this long?

Shelley

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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Susan Saunders
Has she looked into the pet food stamp program. Just google pet food stamps a

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On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand all too well.  I've been having great difficulty feeling very 
 alone in the daily commitment, let alone the financial side.
  
 Is there a paypal address that can be shared publicly (like on facebook) for 
 donations?  It might help a little if there were a 501(c)3 rescue who will 
 allow donations to be sent to them, noted for Karen's work, that will then 
 purchase food for her (since people are often more inclined to donate to 
 501(c)3.
  
 If there is further contact info that can be shared on fb, let me know and I 
 will.
 
 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, Karen and I have both worked on this 
 problem, I on the computer and Karen asking friends, rescuers and others for 
 some help, mostly to no avail. The TNR group here is San Antonio Feral Cat 
 Coalition. They do not have a shelter situation so get very little cat food 
 donations. They have already contributed to her as much as they can but as I 
 said, she has to feed these cats every day. She is getting free TNR 
 certificates from Animal Care Services which is out local kill-everything 
 shelter but the city came on board with kicking and screaming when we were 
 trying to force the TNR idea into the animal laws. They finally accepted it 
 when public opinion soared in favor and the local newspaper printed several 
 articles in support and against what was taking place at the kill shelter 
 (gas chamber). But that still leaves Karen without a car and without money 
 to buy one if she doesn't get some donations to help with the cat food. It's 
 not organizations I'm asking now, it's just individuals who can spare a few 
 dollars to call in to Petsmart, Pet Supplies Plus and Petco to get her gift 
 cards on file so she can purchase the cat food with at least a little help. 
 She also has rent and utilities to pay, which is sucking money out of her 
 paycheck and she is not eligible for any steady help from anywhere else 
 because she has a job. 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Lee Evans
Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and 
looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is single 
she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and out to get 
any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I am regularly 
paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental work. So there you 
have it. The great American dream for those of us who actually are doing the 
right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone help Karen with a donation 
of a gift card from a pet food supply store? That way she could save some of 
her hard earned money to make a down payment on something that she can drive to 
work and to her cat colonies every day, like she used to. She had just paid off 
the car she had when the transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning 
either and the windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the 
transmission went belly up.

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to
her, let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB.  I can also
post a physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she
doesn't mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and
someone's Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think
is most likely to draw contributions since then people can stop right there
and contribute online before they forget).

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and
 looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is
 single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and
 out to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I
 am regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental
 work. So there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who
 actually are doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone
 help Karen with a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store?
 That way she could save some of her hard earned money to make a down
 payment on something that she can drive to work and to her cat colonies
 every day, like she used to. She had just paid off the car she had when the
 transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning either and the
 windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the
 transmission went belly up.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Lee Evans
Great idea! I have a PayPal account which I need because I work from online in 
several different types of jobs and companies (independent contractor) so be 
sure to earmark it for Community Cats. That way I will be able to give her 
whatever donations come in. If you could post on Facebook, that would be even 
more of a help. My Facebook page is under my online name at a company I have 
been working for over 10 years and I'm not allowed to use it for private 
purposes. I don't have a FB page of my own. Facebook Phobia? Thanks again. I 
will get the info together and send it to you at your private email address.


 
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 From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer
 


If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to her, 
let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB.  I can also post a 
physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she doesn't 
mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and someone's 
Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think is most likely 
to draw contributions since then people can stop right there and contribute 
online before they forget).


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and 
looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is 
single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and out 
to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I am 
regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental work. So 
there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who actually are 
doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone help Karen with 
a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store? That way she could 
save some of her hard earned money to make a down payment on something that 
she can drive to work and to her cat colonies every day, like she used to. She 
had just paid off the car she had when the transmission cracked. She didn't 
have air conditioning either and the windows stopped functioning. Needed 
another car even before the transmission went belly up.

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread adopt
 

Please check out http://www.sanantoniopetsalive.org/programs/pass/ for
information about any resource in San Antonio available to help your friend.
I know San Antonio Pets Alive is not able to take in animals from the public
- they have a hard time keeping up with any they can save from ACS - but
they are apparently better equipped to help people find resources to keep
the pets they have.

Emily Hunter

Fuzzy Friends Rescue

254-754-9444 Ext 3

Fax 254-754-9959

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[Felvtalk] Rehoming positive kittens

2013-08-08 Thread Katherine Kershaw
Has anyone had luck with rehoming kittens who test positive for FeLV? I
have been fostering healthy kittens successfully for a number of years with
a local rescue group here in North Carolina. In May I got a litter of 4
when they were 2 weeks old. Mom tested negative so we didn't test the
babies until last month. They all turned up positive on ELISA and IFA
tests. Mom has since been adopted. The rescue group I foster with does not
officially adopt out FIV/FeLV kittens so I am independently trying to
rehome the kittens (the org funded all testing, shots, microchips,
spay/neutering, etc so nothing has been out of pocket for me so far except
litter).

Otherwise they are all healthy, happy and very friendly. They have been
fixed, microchipped and vaccinated and are 4 months old now.

I have posted them on a couple of rescue sites and plan to put up flyers
around town. I know the chances of them finding homes are slim since it's
hard enough to find homes for healthy kittens but I have to try.

To complicate things (or simplify depending on how you look at it), my 10
year old cat became ill and tested positive for FeLV last month as well. I
have no way to know if he was a latent carrier all along and gave it to the
kittens, or if they got it from their dad and gave it to him, or if it's
just a coincidence that they all had it. His health has been up and down
since and I have started him on LTCI injections and am keeping him and the
kittens separate from each other.

If anyone has any rehoming tips, ideas or success stories I'd love to hear
them. Thanks!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Margo



You could set her up on Go Fund Me;

http://www.gofundme.com/

 A good friend is struggling in her 501c3 dog rescue, and has turned to this alternative. So far, it's going well.


Margo

-Original Message- From: Lee Evans Sent: Aug 8, 2013 12:22 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer 
Great idea! I have a PayPal account which I need because I work from online in several different types of jobs and companies (independent contractor) so be sure to earmark it for Community Cats. That way I will be able to give her whatever donations come in. If you could post on Facebook, that would be even more of a help. My Facebook page is under my online name at a company I have been working for over 10 years and I'm not allowed to use it for private purposes. I don't have a FB page of my own. Facebook Phobia? Thanks again. I will get the info together and send it to you at your private email address.


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From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.comTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:15 AMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to her, let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB. I can also post a physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she doesn't mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and someone's Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think is most likely to draw contributions since then people can stop right there and contribute onlinebefore they forget).
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:



Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and out to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I am regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental work. So there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who actually are doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone help Karen with a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store? That way she could save some of her hard earned money to make a down payment on something that she can drive to work and to her cat colonies every day, like she used to. She had just paid off the car she had when the transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning either and the windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the transmission went belly up.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Margo



Hi Lee,

 I tried to send you a private email, but I guess it went astray. If you could email me privaely with Karen's full name and a delivery address, I can help with food.

Margo

-Original Message- From: Lee Evans Sent: Aug 8, 2013 12:22 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer 
Great idea! I have a PayPal account which I need because I work from online in several different types of jobs and companies (independent contractor) so be sure to earmark it for Community Cats. That way I will be able to give her whatever donations come in. If you could post on Facebook, that would be even more of a help. My Facebook page is under my online name at a company I have been working for over 10 years and I'm not allowed to use it for private purposes. I don't have a FB page of my own. Facebook Phobia? Thanks again. I will get the info together and send it to you at your private email address.


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From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.comTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:15 AMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to her, let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB. I can also post a physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she doesn't mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and someone's Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think is most likely to draw contributions since then people can stop right there and contribute onlinebefore they forget).
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:



Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and out to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I am regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental work. So there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who actually are doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone help Karen with a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store? That way she could save some of her hard earned money to make a down payment on something that she can drive to work and to her cat colonies every day, like she used to. She had just paid off the car she had when the transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning either and the windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the transmission went belly up.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
Yes, I'm not a big fan of fb either but am active on there for animal
purposes and it does seem to be the best way to find help these days.

Send me the info  I will share it, if you can send any pics of the cats
(of course that won't disclose her feeding location), I can post with a pic
in hopes that  might help:)

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Great idea! I have a PayPal account which I need because I work from
 online in several different types of jobs and companies (independent
 contractor) so be sure to earmark it for Community Cats. That way I will be
 able to give her whatever donations come in. If you could post on Facebook,
 that would be even more of a help. My Facebook page is under my online name
 at a company I have been working for over 10 years and I'm not allowed to
 use it for private purposes. I don't have a FB page of my own. Facebook
 Phobia? Thanks again. I will get the info together and send it to you at
 your private email address.



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 *Sent:* Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

 If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to
 her, let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB.  I can also
 post a physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she
 doesn't mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and
 someone's Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think
 is most likely to draw contributions since then people can stop right there
 and contribute online before they forget).

 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and
 looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is
 single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and
 out to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I
 am regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental
 work. So there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who
 actually are doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone
 help Karen with a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store?
 That way she could save some of her hard earned money to make a down
 payment on something that she can drive to work and to her cat colonies
 every day, like she used to. She had just paid off the car she had when the
 transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning either and the
 windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the
 transmission went belly up.

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[Felvtalk] foster kittens testing positive

2013-08-08 Thread Karen Harshbarger
Kathrine,  I am by no means an authority on feline leukemia, because the group 
I have now is the first group I have had testing positive.  I am here to 
continue to learn also. But my suggestion would be to be extremely aggressive 
in treatment---any sniffle sneeze runny eyes or anything, get them to the vet 
for treatment, feed them the best food you can afford and feed them more often, 
keep them inside in controlled temperatures, and give them all the time and 
love you can find time for (you have to really get to know these little kittens 
so you notice anything wrong immediately).  I did that and we got a little 
lucky.  One of the kittens was too far along with sicknesses and I had zero 
knowledge so unfortunately we lost him.  But the other 4 (3 of his brothers and 
1 senior cat) tested negative on their second test and have been growing, 
eating better, and seem to be more healthy now.  We are crossing our 
fingers/paws/toes,/etc and
 praying that the third test in about a week will be negative also and mean 
they were able to fight this horrible illness off (and the first test showed 
only a false positive or exposure, not infection with).  I will pray you get 
lucky too, since they have not been sick and mom tested positive that is a plus 
for them (but being so young makes for a weaker system to fight, so).  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Lee Evans


 Need to call her and get her permission to do that and get her full address. I 
know how to go there but don't know the full address. Back to you in a while. 
This laptop is overheated and need to shut down.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer
 


 

 
Hi Lee,
 
   I tried to send you a private email, but I guess it went 
astray. If you could email me privaely with Karen's full name and a delivery 
address, I can help with food.
 
Margo
 
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From: Lee Evans 
Sent: Aug 8, 2013 12:22 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer 


Great idea! I have a PayPal account which I need because I work from online 
in several different types of jobs and companies (independent contractor) so 
be sure to earmark it for Community Cats. That way I will be able to give her 
whatever donations come in. If you could post on Facebook, that would be even 
more of a help. My Facebook page is under my online name at a company I have 
been working for over 10 years and I'm not allowed to use it for private 
purposes. I don't have a FB page of my own. Facebook Phobia? Thanks again. I 
will get the info together and send it to you at your private email address.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] introduction and some questions

2013-08-08 Thread Shelley Theye
For some reason I did not receive the latest messages, so I am just sending a 
new email since 
I saw that Lee and Beth responded in the archives...

Thanks Lee and Beth.  I don't think my L- Lysine is the cat only version, but I 
sprinkled some on Leo's canned
food and he ate it right up.  Afterwards, he licked and licked the little peel 
off part of the lid that came on the new 
container, so he must like the flavor OK!

Thanks for sharing about your kitties, and I hope they continue to thrive.  :-)
Glad to hear the there might be a chance Leo can still throw this virus.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rehoming positive kittens

2013-08-08 Thread Betheny Laubenthal
I kept my Felv kittens.  Keeping them segregated from the other cats in the
home.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Katherine Kershaw kaths...@gmail.comwrote:

 Has anyone had luck with rehoming kittens who test positive for FeLV? I
 have been fostering healthy kittens successfully for a number of years with
 a local rescue group here in North Carolina. In May I got a litter of 4
 when they were 2 weeks old. Mom tested negative so we didn't test the
 babies until last month. They all turned up positive on ELISA and IFA
 tests. Mom has since been adopted. The rescue group I foster with does not
 officially adopt out FIV/FeLV kittens so I am independently trying to
 rehome the kittens (the org funded all testing, shots, microchips,
 spay/neutering, etc so nothing has been out of pocket for me so far except
 litter).

 Otherwise they are all healthy, happy and very friendly. They have been
 fixed, microchipped and vaccinated and are 4 months old now.

 I have posted them on a couple of rescue sites and plan to put up flyers
 around town. I know the chances of them finding homes are slim since it's
 hard enough to find homes for healthy kittens but I have to try.

 To complicate things (or simplify depending on how you look at it), my 10
 year old cat became ill and tested positive for FeLV last month as well. I
 have no way to know if he was a latent carrier all along and gave it to the
 kittens, or if they got it from their dad and gave it to him, or if it's
 just a coincidence that they all had it. His health has been up and down
 since and I have started him on LTCI injections and am keeping him and the
 kittens separate from each other.

 If anyone has any rehoming tips, ideas or success stories I'd love to hear
 them. Thanks!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rehoming positive kittens

2013-08-08 Thread dlgegg
Especially if one or two are adoptd together and no other cats are in the home, 
should be easy.  Even if Neg cats in the home, just get them vaccine for FELV 
and should be okay.  I had 2 POS cats with 5 NEG.  One Pos passed but Annie is 
still with us, healthy as can be and as long as the others have vaccine, they 
should be safe .  Just tell prospective adopters not to be afraid of FELV.  
Annie is now 8 years.  


 Betheny Laubenthal bailleyspetc...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I kept my Felv kittens.  Keeping them segregated from the other cats in the
 home.
 
 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Katherine Kershaw kaths...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Has anyone had luck with rehoming kittens who test positive for FeLV? I
  have been fostering healthy kittens successfully for a number of years with
  a local rescue group here in North Carolina. In May I got a litter of 4
  when they were 2 weeks old. Mom tested negative so we didn't test the
  babies until last month. They all turned up positive on ELISA and IFA
  tests. Mom has since been adopted. The rescue group I foster with does not
  officially adopt out FIV/FeLV kittens so I am independently trying to
  rehome the kittens (the org funded all testing, shots, microchips,
  spay/neutering, etc so nothing has been out of pocket for me so far except
  litter).
 
  Otherwise they are all healthy, happy and very friendly. They have been
  fixed, microchipped and vaccinated and are 4 months old now.
 
  I have posted them on a couple of rescue sites and plan to put up flyers
  around town. I know the chances of them finding homes are slim since it's
  hard enough to find homes for healthy kittens but I have to try.
 
  To complicate things (or simplify depending on how you look at it), my 10
  year old cat became ill and tested positive for FeLV last month as well. I
  have no way to know if he was a latent carrier all along and gave it to the
  kittens, or if they got it from their dad and gave it to him, or if it's
  just a coincidence that they all had it. His health has been up and down
  since and I have started him on LTCI injections and am keeping him and the
  kittens separate from each other.
 
  If anyone has any rehoming tips, ideas or success stories I'd love to hear
  them. Thanks!
 
  Katherine
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] foster kittens testing positive

2013-08-08 Thread dlgegg
I AGREE, GOOD FOOD, SHELTER, LACK OF STRESS AND ALL THE LOVE YOU CAN GIVE.  

 Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Kathrine,  I am by no means an authority on feline leukemia, because the 
 group I have now is the first group I have had testing positive.  I am here 
 to continue to learn also. But my suggestion would be to be extremely 
 aggressive in treatment---any sniffle sneeze runny eyes or anything, get them 
 to the vet for treatment, feed them the best food you can afford and feed 
 them more often, keep them inside in controlled temperatures, and give them 
 all the time and love you can find time for (you have to really get to know 
 these little kittens so you notice anything wrong immediately).  I did that 
 and we got a little lucky.  One of the kittens was too far along with 
 sicknesses and I had zero knowledge so unfortunately we lost him.  But the 
 other 4 (3 of his brothers and 1 senior cat) tested negative on their second 
 test and have been growing, eating better, and seem to be more healthy now.  
 We are crossing our fingers/paws/toes,/etc and
  praying that the third test in about a week will be negative also and mean 
 they were able to fight this horrible illness off (and the first test showed 
 only a false positive or exposure, not infection with).  I will pray you get 
 lucky too, since they have not been sick and mom tested positive that is a 
 plus for them (but being so young makes for a weaker system to fight, 
 so).  Please keep me posted.  Hopefully it will work for them too and 
 then they have a better chance of finding a home.  Karen


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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread dlgegg
I CAN'T HELP, UP TO MY EARS $PROBLEMS, but I have heard that sometimes Petsmart 
and oher pet stores offer outdated pet foods at reduced or for free.  Wouldn't 
hurt to look into it.

 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and 
 looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is 
 single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and out 
 to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I am 
 regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental work. So 
 there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who actually are 
 doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone help Karen with 
 a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store? That way she could 
 save some of her hard earned money to make a down payment on something that 
 she can drive to work and to her cat colonies every day, like she used to. 
 She had just paid off the car she had when the transmission cracked. She 
 didn't have air conditioning either and the windows stopped functioning. 
 Needed another car even before the transmission went belly up.

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread dlgegg
Sure would be nice if one of us could win a couple of million.  I would even 
take in dumped children if I could. But the law won't let me do that and on SS, 
I barely keep myself and 6 cats going.  Seems the rich get richer and animal 
lovers get poorer.  


 Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I can sure empathize with your friend, my bf and I care for over 20
 colonies.  The rescue bills over the years have taken any credit we can
 find, we have no money for a home (health/dental etc) for ourselves, and
 our daily lives completely hinge on the weather and our colonies, not to
 mention work, TNR and the tons of rescue that goes with all of this.  We
 just this week had a litter of kittens dumped at one of our spots (an
 obvious dumping as opposed to wandered up kittens--all the cats are
 fixed) with one kitten needing a blood transfusion, and already had several
 kittens in rescue.
 
 So I can absolutely relate...I'm not familliar with any Texas groups other
 than ShadowCats, but hope perhaps there is a group that gets damaged goods
 from grocery stores that could help with food?  We used to get that though
 haven't in about a year, it was through a rescue group so I can't offer any
 pointers on how to find that but it's certainly worth inquiring with any
 group she can find.
 
 If they have good low-cost TNR clinics there, she should check with them
 and any shelters that support TNR and might have a food bank.  Our Humane
 Society has a food bank for needy people with pets and will allow
 caretakers in need to draw upon this a bit, if they have sufficient stock.
 
 If I think of any ideas I will post, please let your friend know there are
 others out there in similar dire straits--not much consolation, I know!
 
 Thank you for trying to help her, I hope support is found.
 
 Heather
 
 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  This is probably not allowed on this list but I can't just stand by and
  see my friend Karen suffer. She has been feeding about 16 outdoor colonies.
  She watches over the health and welfare of these cats as if they were her
  own house cats. Recently, she has had a really bad run of luck. She rescued
  a cat who needed over $1,000 dollars in eye surgery. i have him now and the
  surgery saved his one remaining eye. Otherwise, he would have been a
  totally blind cat. She also rescued a cat who was bone thin and  combo
  tested positive for both FIV and FeLv cat. She spent several hundred
  dollars curing him of mange and anemia. I fostered the cat and he turned
  negative for FeLv. He's now in my FIV room with 4 other FIV+ cats. Karen
  has rescued and found homes for over a hundred hard case cats, including 3
  FeLv+ cats who did not turn. One of them is still alive and enjoying life
  as a healthy pampered puss with a lovely lady. The cat is over  6 years old
  now. Karen works an 8 hour a day job. The trouble is that she spends all
  her pay on feeding the colony cats and her three remaining indoor cats. She
  has spent over $1,000 for a cat she rescued and took into her own house and
  who after a year, developed a malignant tumor in her ear canal. The cat
  lived with it for several months, on medication and vitamins until she
  passed away suddenly one afternoon. And now, another disaster has hit my
  friend. He car died. She has been relying on friends and neighbors to get
  her to work but she is struggling with the cat colony feeding and is
  running out of money to feed them and even to buy her own food. She needs
  help and there is very little available in San Antonio where we both live.
  I am almost at the poverty level myself, with an online job that pays
  sporadically and two other jobs which are exhausting because they involve a
  lot of driving and delivering so I can't help Karen financially. I have
  over 3 dozen cats of my own to deal with. Karen spends more than $70 a week
  every week. At that rate she will never be able to replace her car, even
  with a junker.  Is there any help out there for Karen before she goes
  under? I was thinking that if people could donate pet food gift cards to
  her that would help alleviate some of the expense of feeding the colonies.
  One person has already done this by calling Petsmart and purchasing a gift
  card over the phone with his credit card. He then notified Karen that he
  had done this and the next time she went to the store, they told her she
  had a gift card credit. I think that all pet food stores have this system
  now. Anyway, if you are able to help, even a few dollars would be a
  blessing. I'm sorry to bother the list with this problem as we are all
  struggling with vet bills for our special needs cats but I am watching my
  friend get more and more depressed and desperate every day and I can't just
  stand by and do nothing. Lots of cats are depending on her for their very
  lives. Thanks for reading this long post. Contact me off list if you can
  help.
 
  

Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread dlgegg
This not a bother.  I too am on SS, at poverty level and have a problem feeding 
6 cats and myself.  One help I get is volunteering at th senior center in town 
- I get my one big meal free for working there.  In the evening it is fruit and 
cereal.  I keep my fingers crossed that my van keeps working since my extended 
warrenty ran out.  Someone once said either on this group or another, that 
Petsmart and other pet stores will donate free or at reduced price outdated pet 
food.  It is worth a try to ask, all they can do is say no.


 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 This is probably not allowed on this list but I can't just stand by and see 
 my friend Karen suffer. She has been feeding about 16 outdoor colonies. She 
 watches over the health and welfare of these cats as if they were her own 
 house cats. Recently, she has had a really bad run of luck. She rescued a cat 
 who needed over $1,000 dollars in eye surgery. i have him now and the surgery 
 saved his one remaining eye. Otherwise, he would have been a totally blind 
 cat. She also rescued a cat who was bone thin and  combo tested positive for 
 both FIV and FeLv cat. She spent several hundred dollars curing him of mange 
 and anemia. I fostered the cat and he turned negative for FeLv. He's now in 
 my FIV room with 4 other FIV+ cats. Karen has rescued and found homes for 
 over a hundred hard case cats, including 3 FeLv+ cats who did not turn. One 
 of them is still alive and enjoying life as a healthy pampered puss with a 
 lovely lady. The cat is over  6 years old now. Karen
  works an 8 hour a day job. The trouble is that she spends all her pay on 
 feeding the colony cats and her three remaining indoor cats. She has spent 
 over $1,000 for a cat she rescued and took into her own house and who after a 
 year, developed a malignant tumor in her ear canal. The cat lived with it for 
 several months, on medication and vitamins until she passed away suddenly one 
 afternoon. And now, another disaster has hit my friend. He car died. She has 
 been relying on friends and neighbors to get her to work but she is 
 struggling with the cat colony feeding and is running out of money to feed 
 them and even to buy her own food. She needs help and there is very little 
 available in San Antonio where we both live. I am almost at the poverty level 
 myself, with an online job that pays sporadically and two other jobs which 
 are exhausting because they involve a lot of driving and delivering so I 
 can't help Karen financially. I have over 3 dozen cats of my own
  to deal with. Karen spends more than $70 a week every week. At that rate she 
 will never be able to replace her car, even with a junker.  Is there any help 
 out there for Karen before she goes under? I was thinking that if people 
 could donate pet food gift cards to her that would help alleviate some of the 
 expense of feeding the colonies. One person has already done this by calling 
 Petsmart and purchasing a gift card over the phone with his credit card. He 
 then notified Karen that he had done this and the next time she went to the 
 store, they told her she had a gift card credit. I think that all pet food 
 stores have this system now. Anyway, if you are able to help, even a few 
 dollars would be a blessing. I'm sorry to bother the list with this problem 
 as we are all struggling with vet bills for our special needs cats but I am 
 watching my friend get more and more depressed and desperate every day and I 
 can't just stand by and do nothing. Lots of cats are
  depending on her for their very lives. Thanks for reading this long post. 
 Contact me off list if you can help. 

 
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