Re: [Felvtalk] Sense of smell and food
Your cats sound like mine, spilled food all over, but they sit and wait for me to put more out. I pick it up and put it back in the bowl. It costs too much to waste. Lee Evans wrote: > To answer your first question, sometimes as a cat ages they readjust their > food intake. She was a kitten, now a year so she is almost at the tail end > (pardon the pun) of her growth spurt to adulthood. She is more sure of having > a steady supply of food so no need to gulp. However, if she begins to lose > weight, you need to take her for an exam. Second question. I have left food out for a feral colony and watched their behavior, thinking they would beam in on the food in a nanosecond. Nope. They hunted around like three blind mice with noses to the ground and finally found the bowl filled to the brim with food. OK. With my house cats, they nose around like little vacuum cleaners and miss the spilled kibbles but slurp up a nice dust bunny and then gasp and cough and spit. None of them have FeLv.. Maybe a brain cell or two got it's wires crossed. Anyway, just keep up with the weight observation. Hugs and purrs. > > From: Maryam Ulomi >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:29 AM >Subject: [Felvtalk] Sense of smell and food > > >Hi everyone, >I have two questions regarding Kitty, our one year old FeLV+. >Since she turned one year old, she has become less responsive to food or is >less food oriented. Up to two months ago, she would drop everything to eat and >get very excited about food, she would gulp her food down but now she eats a >little and then walks away and then returns. Sometimes she eats more and >sometimes she eats less and she has off days for eating. Is that normal? I >know her weight is stable as I have a baby scale and I weight her monthly. >My second question is regarding her sense of smell, which seems to be slightly >off. A few times I have left her food or a few treats and she seems to not to >see it or find it. Do cats with FeLV have that? > >Thanks, > >Mally and Kitty > >Sent from my iPad >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
Love it! Sounds pretty close to my bathing xperiences. I owuld also suggest you arrange with the nearest hospital for 1 or 2 units of blood, you may need it. Lee Evans wrote: > That was the first really good laugh I had in a month. Thanks. > > From: Margo >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm > > > > >How to Bathe Your 1) First …. dress for the occasion. A 4-ply rubber wet suit is suggested, along with a helmet, face mask and welders gloves. >>2) A Bathtub with a glass enclosure is preferred to the one with a shower >>curtain. A frenzied cat can shred one of these in about 3.5 seconds. >>3) Have the Kitty Bubbles and towel in the enclosed bathtub area beforehand. >>No… blow drying the cat after the bath is not suggested. >>4) Draw the water, making it a little warmer than needed as you still need to >>find the cat. Position everything strategically in the shower, so you can >>reach it even if you are face down or prone in the tub. >>5) Find your cat. Use the element of surprise. Pick the cat up, nonchalantly >>as if you were simply carrying him/her to the supper dish. No need to worry >>about the cat noticing your strange attire, the cat barely notices you anyway. >>6) Once you and the cat are inside the bathroom speed is essential. In one >>single fluid motion shut the door to the bathroom, step into the shower, >>close the sliding doors, and drop the cat into the water. While the cat is >>still in a state of shock locate the Kitty Bubbles and squirt whatever part >>of him is above the water line. You have just begun the wildest 45 seconds of >>your life. Remember that cats have no handles and add the fact that he now >>has soapy fur. His state of shock has worn off and he’s madder than hell. >>7) As best you can, wearing welder’s gloves, try to field his body as he >>catapults through the air toward the ceiling. If possible, give another >>squirt of Kitty Bubbles with his body now fully exposed. >>8) During the 5 seconds you are able to hold onto him, rub vigorously. No >>need to worry about rinsing. As he slides down the glass enclosure into the >>tub, he will fall back into the water, rinsing himself in the process. >>9) Only attempt the lather and rinse process about 3 times. The cat will >>realize the lack of traction on the glass by then and will use the next >>attempt on the first available part of you. >>10) Next, the cat must be dried. No, this is NOT the easiest part. By this >>stage, you are worn out and the cat has just become semi-permanently affixed >>to your right leg. We suggest here that you drain the tub and in full view of >>your cat, reach for the bottle of Kitty Bubbles. >>11) If you have done step 10 correctly, the cat will be off your leg and >>hanging precariously from your helmet. Although this view of the cat is most >>disgusting, he will be in a much better position for wrapping the towel >>around him. >>12) Be sure cat is firmly wrapped in towel before opening tub enclosure. Open >>bathroom door. Put towel-wrapped cat on floor and step back quickly. Into >>tub, if possible, and do not open enclosure until all you can see is the >>shredded towel. >>13) In about 2 hours, it will be safe to exit the bathroom. Your cat will be >>sitting out there somewhere looking like a small hedgehog while plotting >>revenge. But doesn’t he smell better? >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Lee Evans >>Sent: Aug 27, 2013 12:59 PM >>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >> >>With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the >>vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of >>the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more >>about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you >>can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They >>list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a >>particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat >>medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. >>You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold >>off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin >>with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. >>This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's skin and lasts long >>after the shampoo has been used, according to the > information on drugs.com. >> >>I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or twice. >>What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and eyes, racing >>around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat to stand around for >>5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as advised in the information, is >>sooo
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a reaction to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site). It has cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too happy with it at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty strong when it first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse reactions to it. This includes my remaining FELV, Annie. trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: > I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose (controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. Carolyn On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get > the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some > residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you > want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or > anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The > Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really > wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are > told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the > search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will > discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold > off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that > begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a > veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's > skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the > information on drugs.com. > I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or > twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and > eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat > to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as > advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to > shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea > shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned > into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before > I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago. > > > > > >> >> From: Catherine Chang >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 >> PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm >> >> >> >> Hi felv friends, >> >> I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether >> bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If >> they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: >> I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just >> bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. >> 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat >> ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral >> Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The >> 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking >> Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is >> less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is >> also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a >> prescription to get that. >> hope it helps. >> catherine >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@
[Felvtalk] Long term storage of a lymphoma chemotherapy drug
MC pointed this out on the Yahoo! FeLV list. It may prove handy for anyone who is dealing with a kitty with lymphoma. http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/2013/08/long-term-storage-of-lymphoma.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FaQiIZ+%28Cat+Health+News+from+the+Winn+Feline+Foundation%29 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat, Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking. He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose (controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3 acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties. Carolyn On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote: With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the information on drugs.com. I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago. From: Catherine Chang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm Hi felv friends, I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week. 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to get that. hope it helps. catherine -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
