Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Hi Lance, Sorry about Ember's skin problems. How old is she? I would try to think back to before this started, and see if there were any changes at all, new cat bed, new food/treats, fabrics, laundry detergents on bedding in rooms she is in, etc. Have you used anything on your hands- lotions/soaps that may transfer to her fur and irritate her when petting? Maybe there is something in her environment that she is sensitive to in that respect? My non FeLV long term foster cat that I have to keep separate from my fear aggressive cat recently licked a lot of fur off near the base of his tail, definitely not flea related. I realized that it was most likely from a homeopathic remedy I was putting on him. It had some alcohol as preservative in it, from Jackson Galaxy store. I was trying it to see if it might help me integrate him with my others. He has a very sensitive stomach, so didn't tolerate a few drops in food, so I started putting about 4-5 drops on top of his head/ears/shoulder blade area, and then seemed to still be on my hands after I spread it out, so the remainder I put towards his lower back. I am thinking it must have bothered him so he began licking that area since he could reach there. Could it be a type of OCD behavior, maybe boredom? Not sure where you live, but maybe if you have started using heat due to temps getting chillier, dryness from that? Has the vet done any blood work, etc? Not sure how old Ember is, but there is a whole list on a google search of various things that can cause lesions and hair loss. Hyperthyroidism can cause these symptoms. Here are just a few of the websites that I found with info. http://manhattancats.com/Articles/hair_loss_in_cats.html http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/cat-care/skin-problems http://www.mustlovecats.net/Cat-Hair-Loss.html Shelley Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Lance, My Bell had the same condit On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Lance, My Bell had the same condition. She was an older cat and not FELV+. I tried the steroid shots several times. It would clear up for a few weeks after and then back again. I finally found vet who knew how to treat her with prednisone -- a fairly strong dose, for over 2 weeks. It cleared up and never came back. It isn't fleas. Carolyn On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Hi Carolyn, Was the pred given in tablet form? I haven’t had to use any steroids on any animal so far. Thanks, Lance On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:47 AM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: Lance, My Bell had the same condition. She was an older cat and not FELV+. I tried the steroid shots several times. It would clear up for a few weeks after and then back again. I finally found vet who knew how to treat her with prednisone -- a fairly strong dose, for over 2 weeks. It cleared up and never came back. It isn't fleas. Carolyn On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Thanks, Shelley. Ember is 11.5 years old (born 4/22/02). I don’t think anything has been changed that might cause this. I’m not sure what this means, but when I spoke to the vet about this yesterday, she said, “It’s been a bad season for this.” I live in west-central Arkansas. I have no idea what we have here other than humidity. Heat’s been running, but I’m not sure that it was back when this started. I don’t think the dermatitis is psych. related, but the licking might be. I’ve wondered about Xanax, but I’ll let the vet come to that conclusion on her own. I’ll check the links you sent, and I’ll ask the vet about thyroid issues. We’re doing a blood test to check some other values, so maybe we’ll have an idea from that. Lance On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Lance, Sorry about Ember's skin problems. How old is she? I would try to think back to before this started, and see if there were any changes at all, new cat bed, new food/treats, fabrics, laundry detergents on bedding in rooms she is in, etc. Have you used anything on your hands- lotions/soaps that may transfer to her fur and irritate her when petting? Maybe there is something in her environment that she is sensitive to in that respect? My non FeLV long term foster cat that I have to keep separate from my fear aggressive cat recently licked a lot of fur off near the base of his tail, definitely not flea related. I realized that it was most likely from a homeopathic remedy I was putting on him. It had some alcohol as preservative in it, from Jackson Galaxy store. I was trying it to see if it might help me integrate him with my others. He has a very sensitive stomach, so didn't tolerate a few drops in food, so I started putting about 4-5 drops on top of his head/ears/shoulder blade area, and then seemed to still be on my hands after I spread it out, so the remainder I put towards his lower back. I am thinking it must have bothered him so he began licking that area since he could reach there. Could it be a type of OCD behavior, maybe boredom? Not sure where you live, but maybe if you have started using heat due to temps getting chillier, dryness from that? Has the vet done any blood work, etc? Not sure how old Ember is, but there is a whole list on a google search of various things that can cause lesions and hair loss. Hyperthyroidism can cause these symptoms. Here are just a few of the websites that I found with info. http://manhattancats.com/Articles/hair_loss_in_cats.html http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/cat-care/skin-problems http://www.mustlovecats.net/Cat-Hair-Loss.html Shelley Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Yes, it was two tablets a day as I remember. She wasn't on then longmaybe two weeks. But it all cleared up beautifully. She had allergy issues so bad there were times when she was just raw all over. I am pretty sure it was prednisone or other steroid meds. My vet is in southern Illinois if that helps. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Lance wrote: Hi Carolyn, Was the pred given in tablet form? I haven’t had to use any steroids on any animal so far. Thanks, Lance On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:47 AM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: Lance, My Bell had the same condition. She was an older cat and not FELV+. I tried the steroid shots several times. It would clear up for a few weeks after and then back again. I finally found vet who knew how to treat her with prednisone -- a fairly strong dose, for over 2 weeks. It cleared up and never came back. It isn't fleas. Carolyn On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
where do you get Vetericyn VF in gel form? On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM, KG BarnCats wrote: My FIV+ diabetic foster Boo came to me very skinny with the fur licked off his belly and back legs. The vet office where he had been office cat (until his FIV status was discovered) tried steroids, diet changes etc. I transitioned him to balanced homemade raw food. The transition in his case amounted to putting a plate in front of him, and his fur quickly back in thick and plush. He has gained quite a bit weight and looks great now, aside from a chronic weepy eye. For the dermatitis / lesions, I would personally start with Vetericyn VF (vet strength version) in the hydro gel format since that clings better. It kills fungus, bacteria, viruses etc. I've had very good luck with that. That will help in the interim til you can discover the underlying cause. KG On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Lance I had a cat with perseveration licking who removed all the fur under her front leg. No one ever found a root cause and the only thing the vet could think of was a steroid shot. That was 23 years ago! My Martha did not have FeLv that we knew of. She lived to be nearly 21 years old. The steroids helped but did not cure her problem. This doesn't directly answer your question, but I offer it in case it helps. Your obvious care for Ember is so touching. Best of luck. Bonnie Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats
Maybe do a complete blood panel and what about a urine test. When Homey was having her crystal problem, she had a couple of places she licked at all the time. Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks, Shelley. Ember is 11.5 years old (born 4/22/02). I don’t think anything has been changed that might cause this. I’m not sure what this means, but when I spoke to the vet about this yesterday, she said, “It’s been a bad season for this.” I live in west-central Arkansas. I have no idea what we have here other than humidity. Heat’s been running, but I’m not sure that it was back when this started. I don’t think the dermatitis is psych. related, but the licking might be. I’ve wondered about Xanax, but I’ll let the vet come to that conclusion on her own. I’ll check the links you sent, and I’ll ask the vet about thyroid issues. We’re doing a blood test to check some other values, so maybe we’ll have an idea from that. Lance On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Lance, Sorry about Ember's skin problems. How old is she? I would try to think back to before this started, and see if there were any changes at all, new cat bed, new food/treats, fabrics, laundry detergents on bedding in rooms she is in, etc. Have you used anything on your hands- lotions/soaps that may transfer to her fur and irritate her when petting? Maybe there is something in her environment that she is sensitive to in that respect? My non FeLV long term foster cat that I have to keep separate from my fear aggressive cat recently licked a lot of fur off near the base of his tail, definitely not flea related. I realized that it was most likely from a homeopathic remedy I was putting on him. It had some alcohol as preservative in it, from Jackson Galaxy store. I was trying it to see if it might help me integrate him with my others. He has a very sensitive stomach, so didn't tolerate a few drops in food, so I started putting about 4-5 drops on top of his head/ears/shoulder blade area, and then seemed to still be on my hands after I spread it out, so the remainder I put towards his lower back. I am thinking it must have bothered him so he began licking that area since he could reach there. Could it be a type of OCD behavior, maybe boredom? Not sure where you live, but maybe if you have started using heat due to temps getting chillier, dryness from that? Has the vet done any blood work, etc? Not sure how old Ember is, but there is a whole list on a google search of various things that can cause lesions and hair loss. Hyperthyroidism can cause these symptoms. Here are just a few of the websites that I found with info. http://manhattancats.com/Articles/hair_loss_in_cats.html http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/cat-care/skin-problems http://www.mustlovecats.net/Cat-Hair-Loss.html Shelley Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Lance wrote: Hi all, My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, lower tail, and stomach. I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a month ago. I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
