Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?

2014-02-08 Thread Margo



Hi Daniella,

 I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year.
http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html
I have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence that it helped.
 Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's not true.
http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html
 And it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. 
You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat.I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keepcertain antibiotics and anantiviralon hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold.
Wishing you both the best,
Margo


.Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello,I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you,Daniella

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Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?

2014-02-08 Thread lernermichelle

I have also used immunoregulin successfully, but for bad upper respiratory 
infections, for which it worked amazingly. It does not, to my knowledge, 
stimulate white or red blood cell production, just stimulates general immune 
response (I think B cells? or T cells?) So I think I would choose which one to 
use based on what the problem actually is, from blood work etc.

Michelle


-Original Message-
From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:21 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?



Hi Daniella,
 
I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What 
is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. 
For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, 
It's been there almost a year.
http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html
I have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on 
another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why 
I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I 
couldn't find any real evidence that it helped.
 Although the link on the website says it's only 
available thru a Vet, that's not true.
http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html
 And it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the 
Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. 
  You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe 
find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know 
much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found 
caregivers unwilling to treat. I've found that having a Vet who is at least 
willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain 
antibiotics and an antiviral on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, 
before they can get a hold.
Wishing you both the best,
Margo
 
 
.Original Message- 
From: Daniella Leifer 
Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? 

Hello,
I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, 
LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - 
she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc.  I'm assuming that if I do nothing, 
she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week 
ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago).  I 
brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until 
she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info 
about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon).  I'd 
love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had 
success?  

My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was 
maybe even born with it.  I am not going to do intensive treatments like 
feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she 
have a peaceful exit.  But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, 
that seems do-able.  

thank you,
Daniella



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Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?

2014-02-08 Thread Margo



HiMichelle, 
 I certainly agree that a diagnosis is needed, and without that you're shooting in the dark. Didn't sound like her current Vet was on board for that. And yes,IR isjust touted as a general Immune system booster, not targeted at red or white cells. I was simply giving my experience, or rather, lack there-of. I'm choosing the IR as my "rescue" protocol, at least for now.
Margo
-Original Message- From: lernermiche...@aol.com Sent: Feb 8, 2014 8:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? I have also used immunoregulin successfully, but for bad upper respiratory infections, for which it worked amazingly. It does not, to my knowledge, stimulate white or red blood cell production, just stimulates general immune response (I think B cells? or T cells?) So I think I would choose which one to use based on what the problem actually is, from blood work etc.Michelle-Original Message-From: Margo To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:21 amSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?Hi Daniella,I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year.http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.htmlI have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence that it helped.Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's not true.http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.htmlAnd it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat. I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain antibiotics and an antiviral on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold.Wishing you both the best,Margo.Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello,I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you,Daniella___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?

2014-02-08 Thread lernermichelle

I agree, was just trying to clarify the differences for her, as they are not 
for the same things. Sorry if it sounded different.

Michelle


-Original Message-
From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?



Hi Michelle, 
  I certainly agree that a diagnosis is needed, and without that 
you're shooting in the dark. Didn't sound like her current  Vet was on board 
for that. And yes, IR is just touted as a general Immune system booster, not 
targeted at red or white cells. I was simply giving my experience, or rather, 
lack there-of. I'm choosing the IR as my rescue protocol, at least for now.
Margo
-Original Message- 
From: lernermiche...@aol.com 
Sent: Feb 8, 2014 8:24 AM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? 


I have also used immunoregulin successfully, but for bad upper respiratory 
infections, for which it worked amazingly. It does not, to my knowledge, 
stimulate white or red blood cell production, just stimulates general immune 
response (I think B cells? or T cells?) So I think I would choose which one to 
use based on what the problem actually is, from blood work etc.

Michelle


-Original Message-
From: Margo 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:21 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?



Hi Daniella,

I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, 
treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show 
symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year.
http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html
I have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and 
she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, 
but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence 
that it helped.
Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's 
not true.
http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html
And it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to 
be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. 
You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing 
to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often 
advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat. 
I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a 
game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain antibiotics and an antiviral 
on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold.
Wishing you both the best,
Margo


.Original Message- 
From: Daniella Leifer 
Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? 

Hello,
I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, 
LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - 
she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, 
she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week 
ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I 
brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until 
she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info 
about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd 
love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had 
success? 

My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was 
maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding 
tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a 
peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that 
seems do-able. 

thank you,
Daniella



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