Re: [Felvtalk] How is everyone doing?
Brock is doing well. No FeLV symptoms at this time, stable with his restrictive cardiomyopathy (5 heart meds, 2 supplements). He will get his next checkup next week. I was sweeping and found one of Harley's favorite toys, which made me cry. Harley passed on May 15 of this year of cancer in the ear/jaw region. I think Brock was a little annoyed that I removed the cot (canvas was separating from frame, threatening to drop me onto the floor!), and replaced it with the zero-g lounger, moved from elsewhere. He likes his routine of playing/grooming/snoozing on the cot next to me. He likes lounger time too, BUT! Maybe I should just get a rollaway bed for him. Us. LOL. Marsha On 9/24/2015 8:21 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I CANNOT REMEMBER ALL THE NAMES OF KITTIES WITH PROBLEMS, BUT HOW IS EVERY ONE DOING? simon95 wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list
I CANNOT REMEMBER ALL THE NAMES OF KITTIES WITH PROBLEMS, BUT HOW IS EVERY ONE DOING? simon95 wrote: > Were can i get these winstrol tablets from? Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Amani Oakley Date:2015/09/21 19:55 (GMT+01:00) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list Hi Grace Obviously it may be that nothing will work for Bella, but I suggest the Winstrol because there is very little downside risk. I am a firm believer in the Winstrol because I can’t tell you the number of times I have been told that a particular condition cannot be treated (and I have confirmed it on line through my own research) and the Winstrol has come through. If for nothing else but an excellent appetite stimulant, I find that when I get the cats on Winstrol and they start to feel better and to eat, then obviously they are in a better condition to fight the problem. However, I was a medical laboratory technologist and have a very strong scientific background, so I also studied the effects of the Winstrol through the blood work we regularly did on our cats. You could literally see the changes in the blood work, week to week, and it made a believer out of our vets as well. After all, it wasn’t then just me saying I thought they looked better. The blood work clearly demonstrated the effect that the medication was having. With Zander, when I would taper off the Winstrol, his red cell production would begin to fall. Thankfully, the red cell numbers usually stayed within the normal range, though low, but we would check his gums and the pads of his feet and I would put him back on the Winstrol if I noticed him getting pale. Once back on the Winstrol, we would get the bump up we needed in his blood work, and we just kept going with this cycle. That doesn’t mean it will work for Bella, but I doubt it can hurt to try. The pills I get are very small so they are easy to get down a cat’s throat. Also, because of what I saw as a pretty quick effect, I could usually notice a difference in a few days. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of grace mifsud Sent: September-21-15 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list Bella is only four years old. Last year I gave her the VIRBAGEN OMEGA All her blood work was perfect . Now she is just shutting down. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: 21 September 2015 19:16 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list Hi Katherine See my email regarding use of Winstrol. I tried LTCI injections on our little boy, while monitoring him extremely closely with weekly blood work. The LTCI did absolutely nothing for him, though we tried it for at least six months. As soon as I put him on the Winstrol, and again, running weekly blood work, his red blood cell numbers began to climb – and I mean within days of starting the medication. They continued to climb, as did his platelets which had also been running low. His reticulocyte count (measuring new red cell production) also went up, and it had been at almost zero for more than 8 months before the Winstrol. We had given him several blood transfusions because he just wasn’t producing any red cells himself. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katherine K. Sent: September-21-15 11:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list We are hanging in there. My 2.5 year old, Jazz just went for his annual check up and weighed in at 13.5 lbs! He's quite healthy. My 12-13 yr old cat Krammer used to weight that much but has lost 2 lbs since May unfortunately, and is now down to 9.5 lbs. He is on a low dose of Prednisolone to stimulate appetite. I'm debating whether to buy more LTCI injections - he's had them monthly for the past 2 years but they're just so costly and hard to measure if they actually do anything. Sigh. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: All good here. Brynn seems as healthy as can be... Jennifer L On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, James G Wilson wrote: > Hey all, > > Just testing the list. There hasn't been any traffic in > awhile. Hope everyone and their little ones are doing well. > Best wishes. > > James G Wilson - phaedru...@comcast.net > (217) 816-8680 (cell) > http://weather62704.us (Weather for Springfield, IL) > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felinel
Re: [Felvtalk] Big Pharma
HOW IS BELLA DOING? simon95 wrote: > Bella finally ate today she is on Mirtazapine 15mg: 1/4 tab every 4 days. Omeprazole 20mg: 1/2caps daily. Motilium tabs 10mg:1/4 twice daily. Prednisolone 3/4 twice daily Fortekor 5mg 1/2 daily And 120ml drip everyday. I am keeping her cosy and giving her loads of kisses and she is purring her heart out I will talk to my vet about the winstrol maybe he can check it out. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Kelley S Date:2015/09/22 19:09 (GMT+01:00) To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Big Pharma I really wish I could see the initial posts..I've been complaining about this for a while and not gotten any suggestions On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: I don't disagree with that sentiment, but I have to tell you that Winstrol is not "big pharma". In fact, one of my frustrations is that there is a medication out there which has proven itself to be extremely beneficial in treating a lethal condition in cats, and yet most vets either don't know about it or don't prescribe it. Winstrol, and other anabolic steroids, have been blackballed by the scientific community because they hane been used as a performance enhancing drug by athletes. Some of you who follow these things will recall that it was Winstrol (Stanozolol) which was found in Canadian Ben Johnson's samples which got him stripped of the gold medal in running in the 1988 Olympics. Frankly, I don't understand why this association with illegal use in athletes should mean that the scientific community as a whole refuses to look at the effectiveness of this group of drugs. Moreover, looking at the scientific studies that do exist makes it clear that there are no solid studie s linking the use of these drugs to the many scary side effects the public always hears about. Even if side effects do exist (as they do with virtually every drug out there) athletes abuse these drugs by using them in huge doses and "stacked" in combination with all kinds of other drugs, so this is hardly reflective of how these drugs are supposed to be used, or would be used in a medical context. We aren't professional athletes, and many cats the world over are suffering from lethal conditions like leukemia, and yet, instead of being told that there MAY be a medication that could help (and I'm not of course saying it always does), we are instead routinely told there is nothing we can do but watch our babies fade away from the infection. It is obvious that Winstrol is not on the "Big Pharma" approved list because it is difficult to obtain, even from the vets, and they are pretty skeptical about it, so it certainly isn't a medication which is being "pushed" or promoted by "Big Pharma". With Zander, when he recovered from what was clearly a death spiral (his PCV was 5% and he couldn't move, and couldn't breathe without an oxygen tent over his head), and even though I had meticulously run and collected his blood work both before and after the use of Winstrol, some vets started to question whether he had had leukemia in the first place. So, when the medication works when it isn't supposed to, then the vets start saying that maybe he wasn't dying after all. I tried Winstrol on Zander out of sheer desperation. When we were told he couldn't have any more blood transfusions because he had reacted to his second one, we were giving him the LTCI injections and following his blood work closely. The LTCI was doing nothing and I was watching his PCV drop lower and lower again. When it reached 10 (after a high of only about 16 after the blood transfusions), I knew I was going to lose him soon with no other options available (after scouring the internet and speaking to experts everywhere). I literally went through the drawer I keep all the cat medications for all the emergency cat fostering I do, and I found Winstrol. It had been given to me years before by another vet for a cat with FIP, but the cat had passed away so quickly, I had had no time to even try the medication. I remembered that the vet had said that the Winstrol MAY help to stimulate appetite and make the cat feel better. I had nothing else so I figured, what the hell, and use d it on Zander. I expected NOTHING. Three days later, I noticed this very very slight blush on his so-pale gums, and I was pretty sure I was making it up because I was so desperate. I showed my husband. He too thought he saw something but both of us figured we were just so desperate for a miracle that we were hallucinating. We took Zander to the vets that Saturday for bloodwork, and his PCV came back at 12. We couldn't believe it and obviously remained skeptical. But week after week, the PCV climbed steadily until it was in the 30's, and he was eating and playing long before that. I don't think it is a miracle cure at all, but I do think it is a very good option for leukemia, and I remain frustrated that t
