Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

[Ardy Robertson]

Hi Jane,

I found several places, including one in Florida that seemed a little "iffy"
and also checked several pet pharmacies that do not carry Winstrol. But then
I found Diamond Back Pet Pharmacy in Arizona. You need a vet's prescription
- actually I think the vet probably needs to make the purchase online
but here is the link. From their website, they seemed okay. Maybe take a
look and see what you think. I did have to search for it as Stanozolol and
not as Winstrol, but they do seem to have it in oral form.

 

http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/medication-search/?wpv_column_sort_id=post_d
ate

_column_sort_dir=desc_paged_preload_reach=1_view_count=1_pos
t_id=2060=Stanozolol_filter_submit=Search

 

 

 

 

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson, Clerk

Town of Garfield - Jackson County, WI

N14438 Valleybrook Ln

Osseo  WI  54758

715-533-0661

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Jane Gannon
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Hi Ardy,

 

I would be interested to know where your vet gets the Winstrol in the US.
My vet in NY said it is not available in the US.

 

Thanks,

Jane

- Original Message - 

From: Amani Oakley   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 10:34 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Do a full haematology panel (including the reticulocyte count) and do liver
enzymes (biochemistry).

 

Ask for all your cat's results to date. If you let me know what they are, I
can decipher them for you. You will probably see are reduction in red cells
and haematocrit results, and you may see a reduction in platelets and white
cells. FeLV can attack any or all of the three cell lines (red cells, white
cells or platelets). The problem is that it shuts down the bone marrow where
precursors of these cells are produced. Winstrol turns back on the bone
marrow's production of these cells, so you will hopefully see an increase in
any low levels in these results (most likely the red cells and haematocrit
results).

 

When the bone marrow starts to produce these cells again, you will also see
a rise in the reticulocyte count (which is also a reflection of the level of
activity in the bone marrow).

 

With respect to the liver enzymes, if your vet is not firmly working with
you, expect that he/she will insist that you stop the Winstrol when the
enzymes rise. RESIST. You've got to let the Winstrol work and it takes a
long time. The liver enzymes will go up but will come down after Winstrol is
discontinued and the more important thing is to reverse the FeLV crisis. If
you think the vet will not listen to you and leave your cat on the Winstrol,
then don't ask for the liver enzymes. 

 

After a few weeks on Winstrol or perhaps a month, run the lab tests again to
see if you are getting a response. However, I would be surprised if you
wouldn't already see a difference in your cat's eating, playing and overall
wellbeing. 

 

Amani 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-08-16 12:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

What type of blood work would you suggest I ask for? They don't tell me much
about his red or white blood cells.

 

Thank you,

Ardy 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 9:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

The Winstrol will boost his appetite and you won't need to give him anything
else. The Winstrol works very very well on the bone marrow. If it were me, I
wouldn't waste any more time getting him on the Winstrol.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-07-16 10:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Thanks Amani,

 

I will call the vet tomorrow and ask if they will get some for me. Some time
ago, the other vet in this practice said they would, if other options
failed. I am just so worried that his Leukemia has spread to his bones. They
also did not want to keep him on the appetite stimulant unless he really
needed it.

 

Thank you,

Ardy

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 1:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Ardy

 

I would definitely try the Winstrol now. Get bloodwork if you can,
beforehand, so you can compare it afterwards, to gauge if the Winstrol is

Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

[Ardy Robertson]

Hi Jane,

 

That is my problem right now!! I am desperately trying to get it. I checked
with the Chiron Compounding Pharmacy in Ontario and they do not ship to the
US. They did not say that it was illegal to ship to me, but maybe that is
the reason they do not do it. They suggest that I google compounding
pharmacies in the US.

 

I see that you can purchase it online for human use...but I think that might
be from some other country or who knows who is selling it - would it be
illegal, or would it be lower quality, or Heaven-forbid, not even the right
medicine. One of my vets told me it has not been manufactured in the US for
about 10 years due to the doping scandals in the sports world.

 

All I know is that my Tigger is not feeling well at all, and if there is a
medicine that could help him, I want it for him! I have learned more from
Amani Oakley in the past few months being in the FeLV group than I have
learned from the vets and that is too bad. Too bad for all the unfortunate
little furballs that have this through no fault of their own.

 

If you hear anything about where I can get Winstrol (Stanozolol) please let
me know.

 

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson

N14438 Valleybrook Ln

Osseo  WI  54758

715-533-0661

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Jane Gannon
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Hi Ardy,

 

I would be interested to know where your vet gets the Winstrol in the US.
My vet in NY said it is not available in the US.

 

Thanks,

Jane

- Original Message - 

From: Amani Oakley   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 10:34 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Do a full haematology panel (including the reticulocyte count) and do liver
enzymes (biochemistry).

 

Ask for all your cat's results to date. If you let me know what they are, I
can decipher them for you. You will probably see are reduction in red cells
and haematocrit results, and you may see a reduction in platelets and white
cells. FeLV can attack any or all of the three cell lines (red cells, white
cells or platelets). The problem is that it shuts down the bone marrow where
precursors of these cells are produced. Winstrol turns back on the bone
marrow's production of these cells, so you will hopefully see an increase in
any low levels in these results (most likely the red cells and haematocrit
results).

 

When the bone marrow starts to produce these cells again, you will also see
a rise in the reticulocyte count (which is also a reflection of the level of
activity in the bone marrow).

 

With respect to the liver enzymes, if your vet is not firmly working with
you, expect that he/she will insist that you stop the Winstrol when the
enzymes rise. RESIST. You've got to let the Winstrol work and it takes a
long time. The liver enzymes will go up but will come down after Winstrol is
discontinued and the more important thing is to reverse the FeLV crisis. If
you think the vet will not listen to you and leave your cat on the Winstrol,
then don't ask for the liver enzymes. 

 

After a few weeks on Winstrol or perhaps a month, run the lab tests again to
see if you are getting a response. However, I would be surprised if you
wouldn't already see a difference in your cat's eating, playing and overall
wellbeing. 

 

Amani 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-08-16 12:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

What type of blood work would you suggest I ask for? They don't tell me much
about his red or white blood cells.

 

Thank you,

Ardy 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 9:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

The Winstrol will boost his appetite and you won't need to give him anything
else. The Winstrol works very very well on the bone marrow. If it were me, I
wouldn't waste any more time getting him on the Winstrol.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-07-16 10:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

 

Thanks Amani,

 

I will call the vet tomorrow and ask if they will get some for me. Some time
ago, the other vet in this practice said they would, if other options
failed. I am just so worried that his Leukemia has spread to his bones. They
also did not want to keep him on the appetite stimulant unless he really
needed it.

 

Thank you,

Ardy

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 1:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

[Jane Gannon]

Hi Ardy,

I would be interested to know where your vet gets the Winstrol in the US.  My 
vet in NY said it is not available in the US.

Thanks,
Jane
  - Original Message -
  From: Amani Oakley
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 10:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER


  Do a full haematology panel (including the reticulocyte count) and do liver 
enzymes (biochemistry).



  Ask for all your cat's results to date. If you let me know what they are, I 
can decipher them for you. You will probably see are reduction in red cells and 
haematocrit results, and you may see a reduction in platelets and white cells. 
FeLV can attack any or all of the three cell lines (red cells, white cells or 
platelets). The problem is that it shuts down the bone marrow where precursors 
of these cells are produced. Winstrol turns back on the bone marrow's 
production of these cells, so you will hopefully see an increase in any low 
levels in these results (most likely the red cells and haematocrit results).



  When the bone marrow starts to produce these cells again, you will also see a 
rise in the reticulocyte count (which is also a reflection of the level of 
activity in the bone marrow).



  With respect to the liver enzymes, if your vet is not firmly working with 
you, expect that he/she will insist that you stop the Winstrol when the enzymes 
rise. RESIST. You've got to let the Winstrol work and it takes a long time. The 
liver enzymes will go up but will come down after Winstrol is discontinued and 
the more important thing is to reverse the FeLV crisis. If you think the vet 
will not listen to you and leave your cat on the Winstrol, then don't ask for 
the liver enzymes.



  After a few weeks on Winstrol or perhaps a month, run the lab tests again to 
see if you are getting a response. However, I would be surprised if you 
wouldn't already see a difference in your cat's eating, playing and overall 
wellbeing.



  Amani



  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
  Sent: March-08-16 12:22 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER



  What type of blood work would you suggest I ask for? They don't tell me much 
about his red or white blood cells.



  Thank you,

  Ardy



  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Amani Oakley
  Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 9:32 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER



  The Winstrol will boost his appetite and you won't need to give him anything 
else. The Winstrol works very very well on the bone marrow. If it were me, I 
wouldn't waste any more time getting him on the Winstrol.



  Amani



  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
  Sent: March-07-16 10:29 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER



  Thanks Amani,



  I will call the vet tomorrow and ask if they will get some for me. Some time 
ago, the other vet in this practice said they would, if other options failed. I 
am just so worried that his Leukemia has spread to his bones. They also did not 
want to keep him on the appetite stimulant unless he really needed it.



  Thank you,

  Ardy



  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Amani Oakley
  Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 1:06 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER



  Ardy



  I would definitely try the Winstrol now. Get bloodwork if you can, 
beforehand, so you can compare it afterwards, to gauge if the Winstrol is 
working. I have had others online tell me that when they started the Winstrol, 
they got an immediate and marked improvement both physically and in the blood 
results.



  If it were me, I would be trying the Winstrol now to see if Tigger is one of 
the cats which respond well to it.



  Please let us know how things progress and I am keeping my fingers crossed 
for you and Tigger.



  Amani



  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
  Sent: March-06-16 11:39 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] TIGGER



  Hello everyone,

  I haven't commented on Tigger for a while, and now I have some questions so I 
am seeking advice. My 5-1/2 year old male kitty - Tigger - has FeLV and last 
fall had a serious bout of fevers, weight loss, dehydration and all of that..he 
pulled through with syringe feedings, fluids, Convenia (14-day antibiotic) 
shots, several series of "Interferon" along with lots of prayers and love. He 
returned to eating, drinking, etc. and was doing fine, playing - nearly back to 
normal.



  He later had a blown out anal gland from constipation, which was remedied 
with pumpkin in his diet, along with antibiotic site injections. Bowel/bladder 
habits returned to normal and he healed.



  Then, a re-test in December confirmed that he is still