Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

[dlgegg]

OR SHE COULD HAVE STURIVITE CRYSTALS.  HARLEY HAD A CASE AND AVOIDED THE BOX.  
HE NEEDEDFLUIDS AND MEDS.  I ALSO STARTED USING WATER FOUNTAINS TO ENCOURAGE 
ALL TO DRINK MORE AND ADDED SOME BRAGGS RAW VINEGAR TO THE WATER TO HELP 
DISSILVE THE CRYSTALS.  WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS SINCE THEN.  ALSO FOUND 
ADDING A FEW ICE CUBES HELPS.  SIGHT AND SOUND OF THEM BOBBING AROUNDIN THE 
WATER IS INTRIGUING.


 gidge...@aol.com wrote: 
> Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
> decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
> to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
> syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
> not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
> it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
> 
> Nancy


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[dlgegg]

BABY FOOD PUMPKIN ALSO HELPS.

 swacht  wrote: 
> Science Diet a/d Urgent Care and Science Diet Recovery  and human baby food – 
> chicken may help
> 
> From: Lance 
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:15 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH
> 
> If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
> negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
> nutrients or just rehydrated. 
> 
> Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I 
> also discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought 
> it was, stimulated appetite.
> 
> Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 
> 
> Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 
> 
> I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
>   On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>   Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit 
>   decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
>   to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
>   syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
>   not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
>   it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

[dlgegg]

MY GUYSCWILL NOT EAT CHICKEN, DRY OR WET.  LOVE THEIR BLLUE BUFFALO DUCK, 
RABBIT AND LEAN RED MEAT.

 gidge...@aol.com wrote: 
> Hi Lance,  Thank you for your response.  Kit ate tonight and played like 
> crazy, but as I told Amani, she did the same last night, but during the day 
> is vey picky now on eating.  I will try the Tiki Cat's chicken and chicken & 
> egg as I have heard that is very good.  Kit has been eating FF chicken for a 
> long time now and maybe is bored with it.  I'll see how she does tomorrow and 
> maybe contact vet if truly needed. They are specialists about an hour away 
> who are (luckily) open 24/7.  Thanks again Lance!
> 
> 
> Nancy
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Lance 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 7:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH
> 
> 
> 
> If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
> negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
> nutrients or just rehydrated. 
> 
> 
> Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I 
> also discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought 
> it was, stimulated appetite.
> 
> 
> Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 
> 
> 
> Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 
> 
> 
> I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.
> 
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
> decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
> to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
> syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
> not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
> it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

[dlgegg]

AND IF YOU ADD WARM WATER TI, IT SMELLS AND IS EVEN EASIER TO EAT

 Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
> I agree – this is what got Tigger eating again. The A/D Urgent Care has a 
> very very smooth texture so they can simply lick it up if their mouth is sore.
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> swacht
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:14 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH
> 
>  
> 
> Science Diet a/d Urgent Care and Science Diet Recovery  and human baby food – 
> chicken may help
> 
>  
> 
> From: Lance   
> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:15 PM
> 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   
> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH
> 
>  
> 
> If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
> negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
> nutrients or just rehydrated. 
> 
>  
> 
> Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I 
> also discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought 
> it was, stimulated appetite.
> 
>  
> 
> Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 
> 
>  
> 
> Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 
> 
>  
> 
> I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.
> 
>  
> 
> Lance
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com   
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit 
> 
> decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
> 
> to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
> 
> syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
> 
> not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
> 
> it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

[Ardy Robertson]

I agree – this is what got Tigger eating again. The A/D Urgent Care has a very 
very smooth texture so they can simply lick it up if their mouth is sore.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of swacht
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:14 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

 

Science Diet a/d Urgent Care and Science Diet Recovery  and human baby food – 
chicken may help

 

From: Lance   

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:15 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

 

If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
nutrients or just rehydrated. 

 

Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I also 
discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought it was, 
stimulated appetite.

 

Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 

 

Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 

 

I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.

 

Lance

 

 

On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com   wrote:

 

Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit 

decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend

to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 

syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did

not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could

it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.

 

Nancy

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[Felvtalk] Part 2 of Tigger Update

[Ardy Robertson]

But then - since there is such a stigma about Winstrol, I had to do my own
research to find a source for it in the US. I found a place in Canada, but
they were not allowed to sell to the US. My former vet's office said they
could get it, and told me they were trying to locate it, but several days
went by and when I would call they said, no they hadn't found any yet. I
started calling LOCAL outlets, and no one had any or knew where I could get
it. So, I did some internet research and found Diamondback Drugs in Arizona
- they are a compounding pharmacy, and they had it. I contacted a local vet
that I sometimes use and they called in a prescription that day. I still had
to get it shipped from Arizona to Wisconsin, and they first had to compound
the drug. I did not know if it would arrive in time, but they rushed it to
me, and I started it immediately. I believe that was March 15th.

 

Tigger's first blood test after about 2-3 weeks on Winstrol showed some
progress, but the pathologist's note was still rather grim, calling it
non-regenerative anemia. Amani has graciously helped and guided me on his
path to recovery (hopefully) and she has been interpreting the bloodwork and
offering me her expertise from when she treated her Zander. We just had more
results a few days ago and two out three of his cell lines are improving and
the third one is about the same, and it now appears that the anemia is
regenerative. I do not know what all the results really mean but I cannot
explain how grateful I am to have a person as knowledgeable as Amani on
Tigger's side. We are also giving Tigger Prednisolone as well as
Metoclopromide for digestion, and he has not needed a pain medication that
he was taking (Buprenorphine) for over a month. I was syringe feeding him,
and he has now started to eat on his own - he has been doing that for about
5 days now. He is eating over a can per day of the Hills Prescription A/D
Urgent Care diet. Even his grooming has returned - before I was wiping him
down with washcloths. While my current vet office has not really offered
much in the way of suggestions, they have cooperated with my requests.

 

Tigger still has a ways to go - he needs to put some weight back on - I do
know this is going to be a long haul, but he is so worth it. He is feeling
so much better, and he is playful and happy. He loves to have us take him
outside for walks and to bite the bushes. And - I sort of take every day as
it comes. One thing I do know for sure, is that without the Winstrol, we
would have lost him for sure in March. I'm sorry I have not updated you
sooner.

 

More later, and thanks for asking!

Ardy

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

[Amani Oakley]

I agree that if you have those findings in a urine sample, that there may be an 
infection, but more often than not, when a urine sample is cultured from cats, 
nothing grows and no bacteria are seen. By the way, as far as I know, the 
specific kind of white cell (ie – neutrophils, lymphocytes, monocytes, 
eosinophils, etc.) are not identified in the urine – they are identified as 
neutrophils in the CBC. In urine, you just get an estimation of whether white 
blood cells are found and how many per high power field (if examined 
microscopically). If done just by a urinalysis dipstick, you get a 1+, 2+, 3+ 
result or “mild, medium, high” levels.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
gidge...@aol.com
Sent: April-28-16 8:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

Why is it so rare that bacteria cause a UTI?  I have read in blood work myself 
that it is quite possible.  High WBCs and high Neutrophils in the urinalysis 
will indicate infection.   Also in a urinalysis, it will state if bacteria is 
seen or not.  So I am a bit confused.  If there is blood in the urine, but no 
bacteria seen, then I would say cystitis. Well anyways, Kit ate for the first 
time today and cleaned her plate.  She did this yesterday to though and that's 
why I am questioning it.  She is 9 months old.  Could she be changing her 
eating habits?  She use to go from cleaning off her plate in seconds, to now 
being more picky.  She is in remission and her appointment is in July because 
she has been doing so well, the vet said 4 months re-check.  I'm not sure about 
prednisilone just yet.  Do you all use this med for yours?  When Kit was 
diagnosed, she was on Onsior, an antibiotic (2 rounds), iron, and Immuno 
Support.  Now she is just on the Immuno Support.  For bladder inflammation, in 
my group on FB, we have recommended Corn Silk liquid (alcohol free) and it 
works wonders (all natural).  I will see how she does tomorrow and make a 
decision re calling the vet.  Thank you Amani.

Nancy
-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley >
To: felvtalk >
Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH
Hi Nancy

It is very rare that cats get an actual urinary tract infection caused by 
bacteria. Instead, they may get cystitis or other inflammatory conditions. If 
that is what you suspect, then prednisolone may be of assistance. However, 
given her lack of appetite as well as not using the litter box, I am sure you 
recognize that it could be a bunch of other things causing her to not feel 
well. If it were me, I would have blood work drawn for haematology at least, 
and biochemistry if possible, and then once that is done, get her on the 
prednisolone. Since the prednisolone helps in many conditions which cause 
inflammation, it can’t hurt to have her on it while you await the blood 
results. With those in hand, you would have a better idea what your next steps 
might be and if there is other medication that is needed.

The prednisolone would probably help with her appetite as well, while you wait 
for the lab results.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
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 On Behalf Of gidge...@aol.com
Sent: April-28-16 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be
syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.

Nancy
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[gidget43]

Hi Lance,  Thank you for your response.  Kit ate tonight and played like crazy, 
but as I told Amani, she did the same last night, but during the day is vey 
picky now on eating.  I will try the Tiki Cat's chicken and chicken & egg as I 
have heard that is very good.  Kit has been eating FF chicken for a long time 
now and maybe is bored with it.  I'll see how she does tomorrow and maybe 
contact vet if truly needed. They are specialists about an hour away who are 
(luckily) open 24/7.  Thanks again Lance!


Nancy



-Original Message-
From: Lance 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH



If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
nutrients or just rehydrated. 


Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I also 
discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought it was, 
stimulated appetite.


Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 


Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 


I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.


Lance





On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com wrote:


Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.


Nancy
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[gidget43]

Why is it so rare that bacteria cause a UTI?  I have read in blood work myself 
that it is quite possible.  High WBCs and high Neutrophils in the urinalysis 
will indicate infection.   Also in a urinalysis, it will state if bacteria is 
seen or not.  So I am a bit confused.  If there is blood in the urine, but no 
bacteria seen, then I would say cystitis. Well anyways, Kit ate for the first 
time today and cleaned her plate.  She did this yesterday to though and that's 
why I am questioning it.  She is 9 months old.  Could she be changing her 
eating habits?  She use to go from cleaning off her plate in seconds, to now 
being more picky.  She is in remission and her appointment is in July because 
she has been doing so well, the vet said 4 months re-check.  I'm not sure about 
prednisilone just yet.  Do you all use this med for yours?  When Kit was 
diagnosed, she was on Onsior, an antibiotic (2 rounds), iron, and Immuno 
Support.  Now she is just on the Immuno Support.  For bladder inflammation, in 
my group on FB, we have recommended Corn Silk liquid (alcohol free) and it 
works wonders (all natural).  I will see how she does tomorrow and make a 
decision re calling the vet.  Thank you Amani.


Nancy


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From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH



Hi Nancy
 
It is very rare that cats get an actual urinary tract infection caused by 
bacteria. Instead, they may get cystitis or other inflammatory conditions. If 
that is what you suspect, then prednisolone may be of assistance. However, 
given her lack of appetite as well as not using the litter box, I am sure you 
recognize that it could be a bunch of other things causing her to not feel 
well. If it were me, I would have blood work drawn for haematology at least, 
and biochemistry if possible, and then once that is done, get her on the 
prednisolone. Since the prednisolone helps in many conditions which cause 
inflammation, it can’t hurt to have her on it while you await the blood 
results. With those in hand, you would have a better idea what your next steps 
might be and if there is other medication that is needed.
 
The prednisolone would probably help with her appetite as well, while you wait 
for the lab results.
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]On Behalf Of 
gidge...@aol.com
Sent: April-28-16 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH
 
Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit

decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend

to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 

syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did

not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could

it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.

 

Nancy


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[swacht]

Science Diet a/d Urgent Care and Science Diet Recovery  and human baby food – 
chicken may help

From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
nutrients or just rehydrated. 

Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I also 
discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought it was, 
stimulated appetite.

Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 

Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 

I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.

Lance


  On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com wrote:

  Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit 
  decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
  to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
  syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
  not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
  it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.

  Nancy
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[Lance]

If you can, check her mouth and tongue for sores. Had this happen with a 
negative once. She didn’t eat, and she hid. She was given abx and either IV’d 
nutrients or just rehydrated. 

Try other food (Tiki Cat’s chicken and chicken formulas are great). I also 
discovered that Fancy Feast plain chicken formula, as bad as I thought it was, 
stimulated appetite.

Sometimes feeding in a different location worked for Ember. 

Agree with Amani that a CBC would be a good thing to have. 

I hope Kit feels better (and hungrier) soon.

Lance


> On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, gidge...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
> decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
> to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
> syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
> not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
> it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Nancy

It is very rare that cats get an actual urinary tract infection caused by 
bacteria. Instead, they may get cystitis or other inflammatory conditions. If 
that is what you suspect, then prednisolone may be of assistance. However, 
given her lack of appetite as well as not using the litter box, I am sure you 
recognize that it could be a bunch of other things causing her to not feel 
well. If it were me, I would have blood work drawn for haematology at least, 
and biochemistry if possible, and then once that is done, get her on the 
prednisolone. Since the prednisolone helps in many conditions which cause 
inflammation, it can’t hurt to have her on it while you await the blood 
results. With those in hand, you would have a better idea what your next steps 
might be and if there is other medication that is needed.

The prednisolone would probably help with her appetite as well, while you wait 
for the lab results.

Amani

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gidge...@aol.com
Sent: April-28-16 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be
syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.

Nancy
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[gidget43]

Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be 
syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.


Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

[Rachel Dagner]

Thank you for the suggestion on the Metoclopromide, I will ask my vet
about it next time we go in, or if his symptoms come back before that, he
is on a 2 week steroid shot right now. He received it Monday, after the
short acting one he got last Friday.

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

Rachel, for what it's worth, I agree with Margo. The odds are that the
steroids kicked in because they will (a) reduce the inflammation and (b)
make him feel better (peppier) and thus he will be more interested in
eating. Another suggestion is to get him on metoclopromide which helps
increase peristaltic action, empty the stomach and move the food along the
intestinal tract.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: April-27-16 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

My cat Tucker was throwing up his food. We went to the vet and got an
X-ray which showed a mass in his chest. I brought him home with steroids
but he still couldn't keep food down probably the mass was restricting the
food from passing through since he was just regurgitating it right back
up. Then he totally quit wanting to eat. Went to the vet and got high
calorie emergency food and a syringe , watched a video on how to do it on
YouTube. I was syringe feeding him for several days, I was doing some
research and saw a lot of great reviews on Life Gold I had it sent over
night from Amazon. I got it yesterday and gave him his two doses. Today he
is eating on his own and eating quite a bit of the emergency food and even
his dry food that I crunched up small. No regurgitation after all day of
eating. I am only giving him a small amount each hour of so as not to
upset his stomach, or overwhelm him. Maybe you can try syringe feeding
and/or the liquid gold. I hope it is not lymphoma
   , I cried for three days straight after the X-ray. I am getting
vitality science cat cancer kit, I am not going to put him through chemo.
I hope to extend his time and his quality of life. He is also more perky
and acting like himself again after just one day on Life Gold. I pray it
continues!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Marsha  wrote:
>
> My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing
> really great, and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year
> anniversary of being diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and
> Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 20% of cats with that diagnosis make
> it to the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 heart meds and 2 supplements,
> and has been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his appetite seemed to
> be a little off.  Sometimes he would eat all his food, sometimes not.
> He occasionally catches a mouse that gets into the garage, so I
> wondered if he was full when I brought his dinner. This past Saturday,
> he was really fussy about taking his pills.  He has always been really
> good about eating his pill pockets, no hassle for me, no dropping them
> into his mouth.  Now he is balking at taking them even after I dip
> them in wet food (and they are already in pill pockets).  I coax and
> coax, and have had to manually pill him a few times.  He will eat 4
> and leave 1, then I have to
 give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he
wants baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his
supplements mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to
eat his food to get it.
>
> He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet
confirmed the enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were
enlarged nodes in the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%,
meaning he is anemic.  It is non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was
done on a lymph node, and the cytology should be back tomorrow.  My
biggest fear is lymphoma, and it's going to tear through like a wildfire.
>
> Marsha
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

[Amani Oakley]

Sorry Marsha. I meant to say that the original lab tests came back on Tigger as 
NON-regenerative at first. Sorry for the confusion.

Amani

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Oakley
Sent: April-28-16 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

Marsha

When Ardy started Tigger on the Winstrol, his haematocrit was 6, and as she 
said in her post, it was certainly looking extremely grim at such critically 
low numbers. The blood panel also came back with a comment from the pathologist 
that the anemia was regenerative. He has been on the Winstrol for about a month 
now, and his haematocrit was 12 this past Friday. You probably know that PCV 
and haematocrit are similar tests which tell you pretty much the same thing 
about the number of red cells in a sample. Tigger's most recent results also 
showed a significant surge in nucleated red blood cells and reticulocytes , 
which are the precursor immature red cells which have not yet matured into 
their final form of a non-nucleated red cell. However, their presence in fact 
shows that the anemia is no longer non-regenerative because Tigger's bone 
marrow has started to produce red cells again. The bone marrow is pushing them 
out early because of the body's depleted red cell counts and that
  is why the immature forms are being seen in the circulating blood.

Amani

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Sent: April-27-16 9:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Brock update

My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing really great, 
and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year anniversary of being 
diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 
20% of cats with that diagnosis make it to the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 
heart meds and 2 supplements, and has been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his 
appetite seemed to be a little off.  
Sometimes he would eat all his food, sometimes not.  He occasionally catches a 
mouse that gets into the garage, so I wondered if he was full when I brought 
his dinner. This past Saturday, he was really fussy about taking his pills.  He 
has always been really good about eating his pill pockets, no hassle for me, no 
dropping them into his mouth.  Now he is balking at taking them even after I 
dip them in wet food (and they are already in pill pockets).  I coax and coax, 
and have had to manually pill him a few times.  He will eat 4 and leave 1, then 
I have to give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he 
wants baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his 
supplements mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to eat 
his food to get it.

He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet confirmed the 
enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were enlarged nodes in 
the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%, meaning he is anemic.  It is 
non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was done on a lymph node, and the 
cytology should be back tomorrow.  My biggest fear is lymphoma, and it's going 
to tear through like a wildfire.

Marsha

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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

[Amani Oakley]

Marsha

When Ardy started Tigger on the Winstrol, his haematocrit was 6, and as she 
said in her post, it was certainly looking extremely grim at such critically 
low numbers. The blood panel also came back with a comment from the pathologist 
that the anemia was regenerative. He has been on the Winstrol for about a month 
now, and his haematocrit was 12 this past Friday. You probably know that PCV 
and haematocrit are similar tests which tell you pretty much the same thing 
about the number of red cells in a sample. Tigger's most recent results also 
showed a significant surge in nucleated red blood cells and reticulocytes , 
which are the precursor immature red cells which have not yet matured into 
their final form of a non-nucleated red cell. However, their presence in fact 
shows that the anemia is no longer non-regenerative because Tigger's bone 
marrow has started to produce red cells again. The bone marrow is pushing them 
out early because of the body's depleted red cell counts and that
  is why the immature forms are being seen in the circulating blood.

Amani

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Sent: April-27-16 9:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Brock update

My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing really great, 
and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year anniversary of being 
diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 
20% of cats with that diagnosis make it to the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 
heart meds and 2 supplements, and has been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his 
appetite seemed to be a little off.  
Sometimes he would eat all his food, sometimes not.  He occasionally catches a 
mouse that gets into the garage, so I wondered if he was full when I brought 
his dinner. This past Saturday, he was really fussy about taking his pills.  He 
has always been really good about eating his pill pockets, no hassle for me, no 
dropping them into his mouth.  Now he is balking at taking them even after I 
dip them in wet food (and they are already in pill pockets).  I coax and coax, 
and have had to manually pill him a few times.  He will eat 4 and leave 1, then 
I have to give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he 
wants baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his 
supplements mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to eat 
his food to get it.

He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet confirmed the 
enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were enlarged nodes in 
the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%, meaning he is anemic.  It is 
non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was done on a lymph node, and the 
cytology should be back tomorrow.  My biggest fear is lymphoma, and it's going 
to tear through like a wildfire.

Marsha

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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

[Amani Oakley]

Rachel, for what it's worth, I agree with Margo. The odds are that the steroids 
kicked in because they will (a) reduce the inflammation and (b) make him feel 
better (peppier) and thus he will be more interested in eating. Another 
suggestion is to get him on metoclopromide which helps increase peristaltic 
action, empty the stomach and move the food along the intestinal tract. 

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: April-27-16 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

My cat Tucker was throwing up his food. We went to the vet and got an X-ray 
which showed a mass in his chest. I brought him home with steroids but he still 
couldn't keep food down probably the mass was restricting the  food from 
passing through since he was just regurgitating it right back up. Then he 
totally quit wanting to eat. Went to the vet and got high calorie emergency 
food and a syringe , watched a video on how to do it on YouTube. I was syringe 
feeding him for several days, I was doing some research and saw a lot of great 
reviews on Life Gold I had it sent over night from Amazon. I got it yesterday 
and gave him his two doses. Today he is eating on his own and eating quite a 
bit of the emergency food and even his dry food that I crunched up small. No 
regurgitation after all day of eating. I am only giving him a small amount each 
hour of so as not to upset his stomach, or overwhelm him. Maybe you can try 
syringe feeding and/or the liquid gold. I hope it is not lymphoma
   , I cried for three days straight after the X-ray. I am getting vitality 
science cat cancer kit, I am not going to put him through chemo. I hope to 
extend his time and his quality of life. He is also more perky and acting like 
himself again after just one day on Life Gold. I pray it continues! 

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> On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Marsha  wrote:
> 
> My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing 
> really great, and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year 
> anniversary of being diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and 
> Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 20% of cats with that diagnosis make 
> it to the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 heart meds and 2 supplements, 
> and has been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his appetite seemed to 
> be a little off.  Sometimes he would eat all his food, sometimes not.  
> He occasionally catches a mouse that gets into the garage, so I 
> wondered if he was full when I brought his dinner. This past Saturday, 
> he was really fussy about taking his pills.  He has always been really 
> good about eating his pill pockets, no hassle for me, no dropping them 
> into his mouth.  Now he is balking at taking them even after I dip 
> them in wet food (and they are already in pill pockets).  I coax and 
> coax, and have had to manually pill him a few times.  He will eat 4 
> and leave 1, then I have to
 give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he wants 
baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his supplements 
mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to eat his food to 
get it.
> 
> He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet confirmed 
> the enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were enlarged 
> nodes in the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%, meaning he is 
> anemic.  It is non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was done on a lymph 
> node, and the cytology should be back tomorrow.  My biggest fear is lymphoma, 
> and it's going to tear through like a wildfire.
> 
> Marsha
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

[Rachel Dagner]

Thank you, I appreciate that more than you know, we need all the prayers we
can get.

Marsha please go online and read the reviews on Life Gold for Cat Cancer on
Amazon and Pet Wellbeing, the latest post is Felv+ owner who has his babies
on it just to prevent cancer. If you get it on Pet Wellbeing they offer a 90
day money back guarantee, so you don't really have anything to lose. If it
gets Brock to eat and boosts his immune system, brings down the lymph nodes,
that can only be good. Of course discuss with your vet since he is on other
medications. Have you tried crushing his pills and dissolving them in a
syringe of water? That is what I do for pills. And maybe you could put his
food in a syringe with the potassium and give it that way? I am praying for
you that it is not lymphoma, but if it is you will have someone on here who
is going through it too.

A little on Tucker. He is only two and a half years old, I brought him home
as a stray from work. I have had him one and a half years. In that time we
have gone through urinary infections, emergency catheters, and two PU
surgeries that give him a wider opening so he doesn't block, the first
surgery his opening closed completely, the second surgery left him with a
very small opening, and it takes him a while to get his urine out. He can't
have the surgery again because they have stretched the urethra really far.
So after over $8,000.00, the constant fear of a blockage, and much stress
and pain for both of us the new cancer diagnosis has been a big blow for me.

I am very lucky I can bring him to work with me, he is sitting right in
front my keyboard as I type this purring away, thankfully oblivious to all
of his Mommy's fears, concerns and heartache.

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Rachel Dagner
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

It seems you are on the right track and keeping his feedings small will help
also.  I know my Harley who is not sick, just gulps down too much at one
time and then up chucks has to get small amounts to prevent that.  I also
have a pot of lemon grass for the cats to munch on when their stomachs are
upset.With all he has going on, he has a lot on his plate to deal with
and other than the right medications, the greatest gift you can give him i
love.  mWill keep both of yu in my prayers.

 Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> My cat Tucker was throwing up his food. We went to the vet and got an
> X-ray which showed a mass in his chest. I brought him home with steroids
> but he still couldn't keep food down probably the mass was restricting the
> food from passing through since he was just regurgitating it right back
> up. Then he totally quit wanting to eat. Went to the vet and got high
> calorie emergency food and a syringe , watched a video on how to do it on
> YouTube. I was syringe feeding him for several days, I was doing some
> research and saw a lot of great reviews on Life Gold I had it sent over
> night from Amazon. I got it yesterday and gave him his two doses. Today he
> is eating on his own and eating quite a bit of the emergency food and even
> his dry food that I crunched up small. No regurgitation after all day of
> eating. I am only giving him a small amount each hour of so as not to
> upset his stomach, or overwhelm him. Maybe you can try syringe feeding
> and/or the liquid gold. I hope it is not lymphoma  , I cried for three
> days straight after the X-ray. I am getting vitality science cat cancer
> kit, I am not going to put him through chemo. I hope to extend his time
> and his quality of life. He is also more perky and acting like himself
> again after just one day on Life Gold. I pray it continues!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Marsha  wrote:
> >
> > My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing
> > really great, and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year
> > anniversary of being diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and
> > Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 20% of cats with that diagnosis make
> > it to the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 heart meds and 2
> > supplements, and has been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his
> > appetite seemed to be a little off.  Sometimes he would eat all his
> > food, sometimes not.  He occasionally catches a mouse that gets into
> > the garage, so I wondered if he was full when I brought his dinner.
> > This past Saturday, he was really fussy about taking his pills.  He
> > has always been really good about eating his pill pockets, no hassle
> > for me, no dropping them into his mouth.  Now he is balking at
> > taking them even after I dip them in wet food (and they are already
> > in pill pockets).  I coax and coax, and have had to manually pill
> > him a few times.  He will eat 4 and leave 1, then I have to
>  give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I 

[Felvtalk] Part 1 of Tigger update

[Ardy Robertson]

Hi Jane,

I haven't received any emails from the FeLV group either for a while. I am
happy to report that Tigger is doing better than expected. I started him on
Winstrol when it was "almost too late". I'm afraid my vets did some
bloodwork, at my request, but didn't really explain the results to me. By
the time they told me what the results meant, briefly, he was almost
literally flat-lining as far as cell numbers. Some values were so low, they
were not detectable by their equipment. It was at that point that I
contacted Amani Oakley whom I met through this FeLV chat group and asked her
if she thought now was a good time to start Tigger on Winstrol. She said
yes, as you may have expected :).

 

Ardy

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

[Ardy Robertson]

Thanks Katherine  I will look into it.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

 

I think this has been mentioned before on the list, because I believe that is 
how I found out about it, but I'm a member of the "Owners of FeLV/FIV Cats" 
Facebook group and it's very active.

 

You have to have a Facebook account to join, and it's a closed group so you 
have to request to join the group. But I like the privacy of a closed group. My 
other Facebook friends can't see my cat conversations, and I know I'm with 
folks who understand what it's like to live with a FeLV kitty. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol

[Ardy Robertson]

Hi Margo,
That's just what I call this email forum on FeLV...the one we are on. :)
Ardy

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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol


What is the FeLV chatline?

-Original Message-
>From: Ardy Robertson 
>Sent: Apr 27, 2016 11:28 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol
>
>Thanks!! I hope so too. I wrote a longer note to the FeLV chatline, but 
>I guess it is too long. I didn't know there was a limit in size. The 
>moderator is checking it out. If it doesn't go through, I will send a 
>few shorter notes detailing Tigg's progress while on the Winstrol and 
>Prednisolone...like I said in that note, without the Winstrol, we 
>would have lost him in March.
>
>Thank you,
>Ardy
>
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>Of dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:38 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol
>
>may be full time job, but they are worth it!  glad Tigger is responding 
>well.  hope he continues improving.
>
> Amani Oakley  wrote: 
>> Hi Jane
>> 
>> I am going to leave all the details for Ardy to report, but I can 
>> indicate
>that Tigger is definitely responding well to the Winstrol so far. I 
>don't want to put words in her mouth, so I will leave the rest for Ardy 
>to speak about when she has a moment. (As we all know, it is almost a 
>full-time job looking after one of our sick babies!).
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>Jane Gannon
>> Sent: April-26-16 8:37 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] winstrol
>> 
>> Hi Ardy,
>> 
>> I have not been receiving emails since March.  How has the winstrol 
>> been
>working for your cat?
>> 
>> Jane
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[Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

[Katherine K.]

I think this has been mentioned before on the list, because I believe that
is how I found out about it, but I'm a member of the "Owners of FeLV/FIV
Cats" Facebook group and it's very active.

You have to have a Facebook account to join, and it's a closed group so you
have to request to join the group. But I like the privacy of a closed
group. My other Facebook friends can't see my cat conversations, and I know
I'm with folks who understand what it's like to live with a FeLV kitty.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/

Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

[Katherine K.]

Thinking of you and Brock.

Katherine
On Apr 27, 2016 11:55 PM,  wrote:

> It seems you are on the right track and keeping his feedings small will
> help also.  I know my Harley who is not sick, just gulps down too much at
> one time and then up chucks has to get small amounts to prevent that.  I
> also have a pot of lemon grass for the cats to munch on when their stomachs
> are upset.With all he has going on, he has a lot on his plate to deal
> with and other than the right medications, the greatest gift you can give
> him i love.  mWill keep both of yu in my prayers.
>
>  Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> > My cat Tucker was throwing up his food. We went to the vet and got an
> X-ray which showed a mass in his chest. I brought him home with steroids
> but he still couldn't keep food down probably the mass was restricting the
> food from passing through since he was just regurgitating it right back up.
> Then he totally quit wanting to eat. Went to the vet and got high calorie
> emergency food and a syringe , watched a video on how to do it on YouTube.
> I was syringe feeding him for several days, I was doing some research and
> saw a lot of great reviews on Life Gold I had it sent over night from
> Amazon. I got it yesterday and gave him his two doses. Today he is eating
> on his own and eating quite a bit of the emergency food and even his dry
> food that I crunched up small. No regurgitation after all day of eating. I
> am only giving him a small amount each hour of so as not to upset his
> stomach, or overwhelm him. Maybe you can try syringe feeding and/or the
> liquid gold. I hope it is not lympho
>  ma
> >  , I cried for three days straight after the X-ray. I am getting
> vitality science cat cancer kit, I am not going to put him through chemo. I
> hope to extend his time and his quality of life. He is also more perky and
> acting like himself again after just one day on Life Gold. I pray it
> continues!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Marsha  wrote:
> > >
> > > My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing
> really great, and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year
> anniversary of being diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and
> Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 20% of cats with that diagnosis make it to
> the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 heart meds and 2 supplements, and has
> been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his appetite seemed to be a little
> off.  Sometimes he would eat all his food, sometimes not.  He occasionally
> catches a mouse that gets into the garage, so I wondered if he was full
> when I brought his dinner. This past Saturday, he was really fussy about
> taking his pills.  He has always been really good about eating his pill
> pockets, no hassle for me, no dropping them into his mouth.  Now he is
> balking at taking them even after I dip them in wet food (and they are
> already in pill pockets).  I coax and coax, and have had to manually pill
> him a few times.  He will eat 4 and leave 1, then I have t
>  o
> >  give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he
> wants baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his
> supplements mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to
> eat his food to get it.
> > >
> > > He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet
> confirmed the enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were
> enlarged nodes in the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%, meaning
> he is anemic.  It is non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was done on a
> lymph node, and the cytology should be back tomorrow.  My biggest fear is
> lymphoma, and it's going to tear through like a wildfire.
> > >
> > > Marsha
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Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol

[Margo]

What is the FeLV chatline?

-Original Message-
>From: Ardy Robertson 
>Sent: Apr 27, 2016 11:28 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol
>
>Thanks!! I hope so too. I wrote a longer note to the FeLV chatline, but I
>guess it is too long. I didn't know there was a limit in size. The moderator
>is checking it out. If it doesn't go through, I will send a few shorter
>notes detailing Tigg's progress while on the Winstrol and
>Prednisolone...like I said in that note, without the Winstrol, we would
>have lost him in March.
>
>Thank you,
>Ardy
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:38 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] winstrol
>
>may be full time job, but they are worth it!  glad Tigger is responding
>well.  hope he continues improving.
>
> Amani Oakley  wrote: 
>> Hi Jane
>> 
>> I am going to leave all the details for Ardy to report, but I can indicate
>that Tigger is definitely responding well to the Winstrol so far. I don't
>want to put words in her mouth, so I will leave the rest for Ardy to speak
>about when she has a moment. (As we all know, it is almost a full-time job
>looking after one of our sick babies!).
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>Jane Gannon
>> Sent: April-26-16 8:37 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] winstrol
>> 
>> Hi Ardy,
>> 
>> I have not been receiving emails since March.  How has the winstrol been
>working for your cat?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
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[Felvtalk] Chemo was/Re: Brock update

[Margo]

I'm so sorry to hear all this possibly sad news.

I just wanted to comment on cancer treatment for animals. For our critters, the 
chemo is tailored to prevent discomfort, not cause it. I am not trying to tell 
anyone how to have their animals treated, but I would suggest discussing 
options with your Vet, or if possible an IM specialist.

Perhaps two doses of the Life Gold herbal mixture did have an effect on 
Tucker's illness, but I think it is more likely that the steroid kicked in. I 
do believe that alternative medicine can be very helpful, but it is usually a 
long term prospect. I worked with a TCM trained Vet, and she often used 
allopathic meds when quick action was essential, then followed up with the 
continuing holistic treatments. 

Steroids can be very valuable when treating all kinds of things, particularly 
prednisolone. They are part of many cancer protocols ("chemo"). For animals, 
the goal is to balance Quality of Life with treating the cancer.

I have lived with many cats with cancer, from adenocarinoma to SCC. Some 
responded well to treatment and surgery, some less so. But for all of them, my 
goal was to give them the best life possible, for as long as possible.

Just my $.02

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: Rachel Dagner 
>Sent: Apr 27, 2016 10:35 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update
>
>My cat Tucker was throwing up his food. We went to the vet and got an X-ray 
>which showed a mass in his chest. I brought him home with steroids but he 
>still couldn't keep food down probably the mass was restricting the  food from 
>passing through since he was just regurgitating it right back up. Then he 
>totally quit wanting to eat. Went to the vet and got high calorie emergency 
>food and a syringe , watched a video on how to do it on YouTube. I was syringe 
>feeding him for several days, I was doing some research and saw a lot of great 
>reviews on Life Gold I had it sent over night from Amazon. I got it yesterday 
>and gave him his two doses. Today he is eating on his own and eating quite a 
>bit of the emergency food and even his dry food that I crunched up small. No 
>regurgitation after all day of eating. I am only giving him a small amount 
>each hour of so as not to upset his stomach, or overwhelm him. Maybe you can 
>try syringe feeding and/or the liquid gold. I hope it is not lymphom
 a
> , I cried for three days straight after the X-ray. I am getting vitality 
> science cat cancer kit, I am not going to put him through chemo. I hope to 
> extend his time and his quality of life. He is also more perky and acting 
> like himself again after just one day on Life Gold. I pray it continues! 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Marsha  wrote:
>> 
>> My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing really 
>> great, and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year anniversary of 
>> being diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and Congestive Heart 
>> Failure.  Only 20% of cats with that diagnosis make it to the one year mark. 
>>  Brock is on 5 heart meds and 2 supplements, and has been doing great.  
>> About 2 weeks ago, his appetite seemed to be a little off.  Sometimes he 
>> would eat all his food, sometimes not.  He occasionally catches a mouse that 
>> gets into the garage, so I wondered if he was full when I brought his 
>> dinner. This past Saturday, he was really fussy about taking his pills.  He 
>> has always been really good about eating his pill pockets, no hassle for me, 
>> no dropping them into his mouth.  Now he is balking at taking them even 
>> after I dip them in wet food (and they are already in pill pockets).  I coax 
>> and coax, and have had to manually pill him a few times.  He will eat 4 and 
>> leave 1, then I have to
  
> give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he wants 
> baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his 
> supplements mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to eat 
> his food to get it.
>> 





>> He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet confirmed 
>> the enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were enlarged 
>> nodes in the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%, meaning he is 
>> anemic.  It is non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was done on a lymph 
>> node, and the cytology should be back tomorrow.  My biggest fear is 
>> lymphoma, and it's going to tear through like a wildfire.
>> 
>> Marsha
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