Re: [Felvtalk] Cole. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 18

2016-08-19 Thread dlgegg 
sORRY, i KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.  I HAVE LOST SO MANY.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole

2016-08-19 Thread Katherine K. 
 right. It was 1 tablet (1/2 twice a day) but it was
> > indeed 5 mg. I was thinking ONE tablet equals 1 mg in my tiny little
> brain.
> >
> > That is the correct dose for Prednisone. But you mention only a single
> dose
> > of the Winstrol. Is that 2 mg once per day?
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >  ] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
> > Sent: August-18-16 8:45 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9
> >
> > Amani, You mention that you had your cat on the Stanazolol and Prednisone
> > simultaneously . Below you mention you had him on just 1mg of the Pred.
> My
> > vet has Bogie at 5mg once a day. Does this seem in excess to you?
> >
> > Sherri
> >
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org  >> on
> behalf
> > of Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
> > <mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com  >>
> > Reply-To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  >>
> > Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  >"
> > <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
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> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > Don't listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my cat
> > back from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the liver,
> what
> > is the downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn't work and the liver gets
> > worse, there is probably little or anything else that will work. If the
> > Stanazolol works, you will have another opportunity to deal with the
> liver
> > down the road and I frankly think that once your cat starts eating again,
> > this will be supportive for the liver as well.
> >
> > Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone
> daily,
> > which is also helpful to the liver.
> >
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >  ] On Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger
> > Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM
> > To: felvtalk; felvtalk
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9
> >
> > How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or
> > exam? All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use
> > steroids of any kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood
> > work and steroids can cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby
> food--
> > he threw them up. So now I am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I
> > blend it and strain so it probably is nit the best calories with water
> added
> > too but first two syringes today has stayed down. But night is when he
> > looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I can't figure out soon if
> not
> > already too late how to get more calories in him I am afraid he will pass
> > point of no return. We have interferon ordered but taking forever to get
> > here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support
> >
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[Felvtalk] Cole

2016-08-19 Thread Rain Tyler 
: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9
> 
> Karen
> 
> Don't listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my cat
> back from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the liver, what
> is the downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn't work and the liver gets
> worse, there is probably little or anything else that will work. If the
> Stanazolol works, you will have another opportunity to deal with the liver
> down the road and I frankly think that once your cat starts eating again,
> this will be supportive for the liver as well.
> 
> Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone daily,
> which is also helpful to the liver.
> 
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>  ] On Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger
> Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM
> To: felvtalk; felvtalk
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9
> 
> How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or
> exam? All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use
> steroids of any kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood
> work and steroids can cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby food--
> he threw them up. So now I am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I
> blend it and strain so it probably is nit the best calories with water added
> too but first two syringes today has stayed down. But night is when he
> looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I can't figure out soon if not
> already too late how to get more calories in him I am afraid he will pass
> point of no return. We have interferon ordered but taking forever to get
> here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 18

2016-08-19 Thread Margo 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 18

2016-08-19 Thread Sherri Godschalk 
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Sorry Sherri. You are right. It was 1 tablet (1/2 twice a day) but it was
indeed 5 mg. I was thinking ONE tablet equals 1 mg in my tiny little brain.

That is the correct dose for Prednisone. But you mention only a single dose
of the Winstrol. Is that 2 mg once per day?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 ] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: August-18-16 8:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

Amani, You mention that you had your cat on the Stanazolol and Prednisone
simultaneously . Below you mention you had him on just 1mg of the Pred. My
vet has Bogie at 5mg once a day. Does this seem in excess to you?

Sherri

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org  >> on behalf
of Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com  >>
Reply-To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  >>
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  >"
<felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
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Karen

Don't listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my cat
back from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the liver, what
is the downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn't work and the liver gets
worse, there is probably little or anything else that will work. If the
Stanazolol works, you will have another opportunity to deal with the liver
down the road and I frankly think that once your cat starts eating again,
this will be supportive for the liver as well.

Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone daily,
which is also helpful to the liver.


Amani



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 ] On Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger
Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM
To: felvtalk; felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or
exam? All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use
steroids of any kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood
work and steroids can cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby food--
he threw them up. So now I am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I
blend it and strain so it probably is nit the best calories with water added
too but first two syringes today has stayed down. But night is when he
looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I can't figure out soon if not
already too late how to get more calories in him I am afraid he will pass
point of no return. We have interferon ordered but taking forever to get
here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole

2016-08-19 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL 

Karen
So very sorry to hear about losing Cole  I don't know that anything 
could have been done that would have saved him but it is clear that you 
would certainly have done whatever was in your power.  I'm sure you know 
that not all animals get the kind of loving attention Cole got. 
However short his time was here he clearly was loved and cared about



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Yes - I mg 2x a day Winstrol and ? tablet of prednisone (5mg) 2x a 
day.


Try the meds for a few days and see what the response is like. If 
necessary, double the Winstrol for a week or two. But for now, give it 
a few days. When I thought about our exchange some more, I actually 
thought that maybe the early response you got was from the prednisone 
because the Winstrol takes a few more days to have an effect that is 
noticeable.


Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of Sherri Godschalk

Sent: August-18-16 9:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

Thanks Amani. Yes he is having me give the Winstrol 2mg in the morning 
and the Pred 5 mg in the evening.  Were you giving your cat 2 doses of 
the Winstrol?


Sherri

From: Felvtalk > on behalf of Amani Oakley >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:37 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

Sorry Sherri. You are right. It was 1 tablet (1/2 twice a day) but it 
was indeed 5 mg. I was thinking ONE tablet equals 1 mg in my tiny 
little brain.


That is the correct dose for Prednisone. But you mention only a single 
dose of the Winstrol. Is that 2 mg once per day?


Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of Sherri Godschalk

Sent: August-18-16 8:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

Amani, You mention that you had your cat on the Stanazolol and 
Prednisone simultaneously . Below you mention you had him on just 1mg 
of the Pred. My vet has Bogie at 5mg once a day. Does this seem in 
excess to you?


Sherri

From: Felvtalk > on behalf of Amani Oakley >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

Karen

Don't listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my 
cat back from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the 
liver, what is the downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn't work and 
the liver gets worse, there is probably little or anything else that 
will work. If the Stanazolol works, you will have another opportunity 
to deal with the liver down the road and I frankly think that once 
your cat starts eating again, this will be supportive for the liver as 
well.


Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone 
daily, which is also helpful to the liver.



Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of Karen Harshbarger

Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM
To: felvtalk; felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray 
or exam? All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to 
use steroids of any kind she said cause liver is already struggling 
per blood work and steroids can cause liver illness. I have tried AD 
and baby food-- he threw them up. So now I am using ID cause vet said 
easy to digest. I blend it and strain so it probably is nit the best 
calories with water added too but first two syringes today has stayed 
down. But night is when he looses any daytime gains so we will see. If 
I can't figure out soon if not already too late how to get more 
calories in him I am afraid he will pass point of no return. We have 
interferon ordered but taking forever to get here-- been a week. 
Thanks for all your quick kind support