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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:39:27 +0200
From: Terri Knight To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10
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Thanks everyone for the awesome response and advice. We will be back
at the
vet on Friday for the next round of blood tests and I will discuss all
options and your advice with the vet.
I really am extremely grateful.
Terri
On 11 Jan 2017 23:46, "ROBERT CHAPEL" wrote:
Nancy....
In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know
if the
cats ( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per IFA....
or
FeLV at all.
Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to find ANYTHING that might
help
their cats and can spend their way into oblivion with useless elixers
that
will leave them cash poor for the ( sometimes) more expensive drugs
that
stand a better chance of success.... Personally I can't imagine how
Omega
3's are going to have any appreciable effect on depressed RBC's.
Aracept... as pointed out.... could be effective if the anemia is
regenerative....possibly harmful if not ( cats can respond with
antibodies
to Epo and the like with antibodies that further depress their blood
count....
If you have positive experience with the above would love to hear
about
it.... even better if you have any reference papers to point us to
regarding the successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would
ALL, I
am sure, be very interested as they are widely available and
certainly
reasonably priced ( generally)
thanks...
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:31:17 -0500
From: gidge...@aol.com
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
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I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3
supplement.
Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
kiwifruitseed
oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or
excipients of
any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have
been doing
well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno. All
natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB page at
https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
about
this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
Nancy
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From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
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Hi Nancy
Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the
supplements, or
were they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to
know if
your supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia. I am
sure I
am not telling you anything new when I indicate that the problem is
that if
a cat is severely anemic and not producing his/her own red cells
(low or
insufficient reticulocytes) then there is very little time to
address the
crisis. Moreover, as I have posted before epogen, and other
erythropoietin-type mimics, act on the red cell precursors in the
bone
marrow, signalling to them to produce more red cells. If the
precursor
cells are damaged or killed by the virus, which they often are, and
that is
why all three cell lines (red cells, white cells and platelets) are
often
affected, then no amount of erythropoietin, ?yelling? at a dead
precursor
cell, will get it to re-start red cell production. The only thing I
have
found that has a chance to do that is the Winstrol, co
upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development
of
bone marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such
as
osteoporosis. It promotes the growth and increased density of bone.
Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the
supplements you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear
if that
is the case since we certainly need as many weapons in our arsenal
as
possible.
Thanks,
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf Of
gidge...@aol.com
Sent: January-11-17 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3
supplement.
Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
kiwifruitseed
oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or
excipients of
any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have
been doing
well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno. All
natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB page at
https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
about
this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
Nancy
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:13:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sandy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, tkmoo...@gmail.com
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Terri I hope the best for your kitty cat Sandy W
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From: "Terri Knight" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday,
January 11, 2017 5:39:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest,
Vol 33, Issue 10
Thanks everyone for the awesome response and advice. We will be back
at the vet on Friday for the next round of blood tests and I will
discuss all options and your advice with the vet.
I really am extremely grateful.
Terri
On 11 Jan 2017 23:46, "ROBERT CHAPEL" < bcha...@optonline.net > wrote:
Nancy....
In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know if
the cats ( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per
IFA.... or FeLV at all. Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to
find ANYTHING that might help their cats and can spend their way into
oblivion with useless elixers that will leave them cash poor for the (
sometimes) more expensive drugs that stand a better chance of
success.... Personally I can't imagine how Omega 3's are going to have
any appreciable effect on depressed RBC's. Aracept... as pointed
out.... could be effective if the anemia is regenerative....possibly
harmful if not ( cats can respond with antibodies to Epo and the like
with antibodies that further depress their blood count.... If you have
positive experience with the above would love to hear about it....
even better if you have any reference papers to point us to regarding
the successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would ALL, I am
sure, be very interested as they are widely available and certainly
reasonably priced ( generally) thanks...
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I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.
Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
kiwifruitseed oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs,
or excipients of any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on
wood have been doing well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~
Liquid Immuno. All natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB
page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
about this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
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To: " felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
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Hi Nancy
Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the supplements,
or were they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to
know if your supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia.
I am sure I am not telling you anything new when I indicate that the
problem is that if a cat is severely anemic and not producing his/her
own red cells (low or insufficient reticulocytes) then there is very
little time to address the crisis. Moreover, as I have posted before
epogen, and other erythropoietin-type mimics, act on the red cell
precursors in the bone marrow, signalling to them to produce more red
cells. If the precursor cells are damaged or killed by the virus,
which they often are, and that is why all three cell lines (red cells,
white cells and platelets) are often affected, then no amount of
erythropoietin, ?yelling? at a dead precursor cell, will get it to
re-start red cell production. The only thing I have found that has a
chance to do that is the Winstrol, co
upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development of
bone marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such as
osteoporosis. It promotes the growth and increased density of bone.
Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the
supplements you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear if
that is the case since we certainly need as many weapons in our
arsenal as possible.
Thanks,
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On
Behalf Of gidge...@aol.com Sent: January-11-17 12:31 PM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.
Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
kiwifruitseed oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs,
or excipients of any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on
wood have been doing well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~
Liquid Immuno. All natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB
page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
about this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
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