Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Ardy Robertson 
Where would one purchase cannabis oil? I have actually never had a cold sore, 
but I was thinking if it works for that, it might be good for other stuff too…….

 

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson, Clerk

Town of Garfield – Jackson County, WI

N14438 Valleybrook Ln

Osseo  WI  54758

715-533-0661

 

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Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

 

Actually, to be honest, what I found stopped my cold sore in its tracks and it 
has NEVER returned was cannabis oil. It was remarkable. The cold sore 
disappeared after I applied the oil to the sore overnight, and I have never had 
a reoccurrence since – I think it has been over a year or close to two now. 

 

Amani

 

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Doore
Sent: June-20-17 4:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

 

I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I amVERY 
pleased with quick response.

On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria"  > wrote:

Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes virus 
- it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL   > wrote:
>
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread dlgegg 
That is the important thing, did it work for you.  That is how I judge nay 
thing I take.

 Marilyn Knapp Litt  wrote: 
> Well put!  My philosophy exactly.  I am doing what I can and what can I do if 
> I accept that common remedies do not work?  For example I take quinine for my 
> restless legs.  The FDA ruled it does not work . . . but it works for me . . 
> . 
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> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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> 
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... 
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> > acid, so not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it 
> > does not work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect 
> > my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be 
> > Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am 
> > feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Gloria 
Good to know about the oil, too! Thx!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Actually, to be honest, what I found stopped my cold sore in its tracks and 
> it has NEVER returned was cannabis oil. It was remarkable. The cold sore 
> disappeared after I applied the oil to the sore overnight, and I have never 
> had a reoccurrence since – I think it has been over a year or close to two 
> now.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam 
> Doore
> Sent: June-20-17 4:11 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>  
> I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I 
> amVERY pleased with quick response.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria"  wrote:
> Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes 
> virus - it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!
> 
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> >
> > I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> > Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> > but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> > believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> > anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share 
> > of side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> > drawbacks.
> >
> >
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> >> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
> >> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
> >> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
> >> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
> >> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
> >> Antibiotic seems to not b
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Amani Oakley 
Actually, to be honest, what I found stopped my cold sore in its tracks and it 
has NEVER returned was cannabis oil. It was remarkable. The cold sore 
disappeared after I applied the oil to the sore overnight, and I have never had 
a reoccurrence since – I think it has been over a year or close to two now.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam 
Doore
Sent: June-20-17 4:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine


I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I amVERY 
pleased with quick response.
On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria" 
> wrote:
Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes virus 
- it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
> > wrote:
>
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
>
>
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>>
>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
>> Antibiotic seems to not b


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Amani Oakley 
But Amy, I think that's what someone mentioned earlier. It is effective is 
holding the virus in abeyance, but not in killing the virus. I think if you are 
dealing with an aggressive virus, it may not be all that effective, but I agree 
that there doesn't seem to be any downside risk to using it, so why not.

Amani

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Glunt
Sent: June-20-17 4:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Bob, I'm curious if you could link to the study you mention. I've been taking 
lysine for years to help with my cold sores and I find that it most definitely 
IS effective at helping suppress them. Maybe it's different for animals. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 2:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> 
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
> 
> 
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
>> Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am feeding cat food with a 
>> syringe and she is going to the vet today for a consult on using steroids 
>> and Zander's Protocol.
>> 
>> 
>> Marilyn
>> 
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Ardy Robertson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:09 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>> 
>> 
>> May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes 
>> (not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)
>> 
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>> Thank you,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Pam Doore 
I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I
amVERY pleased with quick response.
On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria"  wrote:

> Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes
> virus - it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!
>
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
> wrote:
> >
> > I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to "
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share
> of side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the
> drawbacks.
> >
> >
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> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the
> virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so
> not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not
> work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Amy Glunt 
Bob, I'm curious if you could link to the study you mention. I've been taking 
lysine for years to help with my cold sores and I find that it most definitely 
IS effective at helping suppress them. Maybe it's different for animals. 

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> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
>> Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am feeding cat food with a 
>> syringe and she is going to the vet today for a consult on using steroids 
>> and Zander's Protocol.
>> 
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>> Marilyn
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>> May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt 
Well put!  My philosophy exactly.  I am doing what I can and what can I do if I 
accept that common remedies do not work?  For example I take quinine for my 
restless legs.  The FDA ruled it does not work . . . but it works for me . . . 

Marilyn

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I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness but 
vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " believe" 
at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other anti-virals one 
can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of side effects  
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> does not work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect 
> my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be 
> Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am 
> feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Gloria 
Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes virus 
- it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!

-g 
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> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL 
I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's 
ineffectiveness but vets I have gone to insist that it IS 
effective   I'd prefer to " believe" at this point rather than to 
feel helpless... there are other anti-virals one can use but they are 
rather expensive and have their share of side effects  Once again... 
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Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the 
virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino 
acid, so not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it 
does not work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect 
my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be 
Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am 
feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for 
a consult on using steroids and Zander's Protocol.



Marilyn


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May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes 
(not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)



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Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

2017-06-20 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt 
Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. Destiny's 
infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems 
to not be working either.  I am feeding cat food with a syringe and she is 
going to the vet today for a consult on using steroids and Zander's Protocol.

 

Marilyn

 

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Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

 

May I ask – what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not that 
Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)

 

Thank you,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

2017-06-20 Thread kat 

Hi Ardy,

 

Lysine, or L-lysine, is an essential amino acid, meaning it is necessary for human health, but the body cannot make it. 

It has been promoted for use in cats to help prevent or aide in healing Herpesvirus infections in cats (also called feline viral rhinotracheitis). 

However, recent info has disputed this.  For details, see:

http://consciouscat.net/2016/01/11/l-lysine-does-not-decrease-symptoms-of-feline-upper-respiratory-infections/


 

Kat (Mew Jersey)


Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:09 AM
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant




May I ask – what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)

 


Thank you,

Ardy


 



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Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 5:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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This is what our vet told us last week.  When we found out our Destiny had FeLV, we took our four other cats in.  They were all fine except one, Blossom.  She is 16 and basically has one kidney, but seemed to be fine with the meds and diet.  She is FIV!  So not a good month for our cats.  I am using lycine in all their water dishes.

 

Marilyn
Destiny FeLV and sinus infection

 



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Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Hi Sandy,


 



I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of.  It is no longer on the market.



Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test.



 



Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at least that I have ever heard.



 



 








Shelley 



 



 


 


 


 


 


 




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Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to retest??  



 



Thank you,



 



Sandy W



 






From: "Amani Oakley" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM
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Marilyn


 


Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste.


 


Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours


 


    Prednisolone:    2.5 mg every 12 hours


 


    Winstrol:   1-2 mg every 12 hours


 


Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough.


 


Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. 


 


If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract.    


 




From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM
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Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk)  about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol.  IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP.



It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. 




 

Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

2017-06-20 Thread Ardy Robertson 
May I ask – what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not that 
Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)

 

Thank you,

Ardy

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marilyn Knapp Litt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 5:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

 

This is what our vet told us last week.  When we found out our Destiny had 
FeLV, we took our four other cats in.  They were all fine except one, Blossom.  
She is 16 and basically has one kidney, but seemed to be fine with the meds and 
diet.  She is FIV!  So not a good month for our cats.  I am using lycine in all 
their water dishes.

 

Marilyn
Destiny FeLV and sinus infection

 

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Shelley Theye
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

 

Hi Sandy,

 

I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of.  It is no 
longer on the market.

Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test.

 

Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at 
least that I have ever heard.

 

 

Shelley 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Sandy  > wrote:

 

Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and 
with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to 
retest??  

 

Thank you,

 

Sandy W

 

  _  

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

 

Marilyn

 

Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s 
Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of 
Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very 
serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood 
transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful 
that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against 
this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste.

 

Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours

 

Prednisolone:2.5 mg every 12 hours

 

Winstrol:   1-2 mg every 12 hours

 

Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including 
haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the 
haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are 
concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., 
and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 
hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be 
enough.

 

Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you 
don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a 
month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how well 
the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the 
results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be 
modified if necessary. 

 

If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass 
well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before 
meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase 
peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  ; 
thyme2s...@gmail.com  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

 

Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk)  about Zander's Protocol - consists of 
doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol.  IMPORTANT to get 
your kitty on this ASAP.

It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test 
positive for FeLV - a bummer. 

 

Sandy W

 

  _  

From: "Pam Doore"  >
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

 

Hi Marilyn,  I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes 
virus on top of the FeLu.  

There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to 
all of their cats to help build up immune system. I