Sally,
If it is al all possible find another vet who is more knowledgable in
treating FeLV this vet is pretty clueless. An HCT of 10 is when a
transfusion would be seriously considered not ruled out, that alone
tells me this vet doesn't have the knowledge to help you.
Bailey started
Yes that is my understanding also, she has the virus but it is dormant.
I think it just means she carries the virus (not disease) but doesn't
get sick.
Gloria
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Hi Terrie,
You can buy it on line but if you don't need much maybe your vet will
give you some, I got a small bottle from my vet.
Cheapest price here:
http://www.pbsanimalhealth.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/farm/chlorhexidine.html?E+scstore
Another place:
Terrie,
With shipping the ocheaper place is 34.+ change, at this place it is
only 30.00 with shipping.
http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=58MMP=1013578439
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Hi Tonya,
I don't think this is always the case, I had Bailey tested several
times in his 11 years of life, at least 4 times and the tests were given
years apart and he always tested a light positive.
I know it's not scientifically proven, but I believe light positive
means recent
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Hi Terrie,
Got this but not the message from earlier, what was it??
Neither am Ias I sent a message to Belinda yesterday still hasn't
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Hi Tonya,
I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me
if I was around.
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Bailey had bad stomastisis and also ended up with pancreatitis,
his symptoms started with lethargy and not eating very much, he didn't
cry out but was very uncomfortable when I fed him (he had a feeding tube
because he ate nothing on his own). He even ran from me one time when
it was
Did Hobbs have his teeth pulled?? If the dental didn't work with
some cats the only relief is having all *but* their canines and the tiny
teeth in between them pulled. This is what we ended up doing with
Bailey, he was fine after that and got to be a little pudgy even until
the anemia and
Are they talking IV fluids where he will be hooked up to an infusion
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I ask because as Marylyn said subq fluids are easy to do, I am doing
two of my cats now, Joey very early CRF and Fred CRF for 2 years now.
Fred has been getting fluids for almost the whole 2 years and Joey for
about 3 or so months. Her vet can show her how and I'd be happy to help:
Hi Kerry,
Sorry it took so long, I have Inky posted now.
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* I'm posting for Laura because she can't subscribe, list problems,
Jim is working on them. You can post on the list to answer she is going
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OK, I am just sending this using reply not reply all and it looks like
it is going to the list.
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Hi Gloria, it is set to go to the list, not sure if it was originally
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Hi Kelley,
A predicament indeed ... I would just explain that is they can afford
it they should get any negs vaccinated, do the best as far as food they
can afford and most important as far as I am concerned keep stress to a
minimum.
The cats all live together already so have been
That's your opinion only since I know for a fact that mixing my
well, I prefer negative cats with my FeLV+ Bailey was no problem and
was known and supported by my vet. He was positive at 5 months of age
when he found me until his passing at age 11yrs. For his 11 years he
lived with his 8
By that I mean I had it compounded too ...
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That is also what I did with Cody, we started with the most
commonly used of the drugs (amytriptaline), we tried 2 or 3 before
trying the prozac, they all helped but only the prozac stopped it
completely.
I tried amytriptaline (that's probably spelled wrong!) on Ruben for
I used flouxetine with Cody for about 6 months, we never had that
problem. I sounds like it probably tastes awful and he is foaming when
he gets a taste of it. Have her put it in a pill pocket or gel capsule
and I think that would solve it. It worked very well with Cody also.
Stopped
Baytril can be given as an injection, it is an inter-muscular
injection thought, not sure on the clavomox, it does come in liquid
though if that is easier.
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We had Cody's fluoxetine's compounded into a transdermal gel that we
rubbed on the inside of his ear.
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Hi Kerry,
Yes the flouxetine stopped that all together, he didn't mark while
he was on it. I kept him on it for about 6 months then took him off it
because he was just laying around, thinking it was the flouxetine that
was making him lazy, but come to find out that is just the way Cody
Hooray for Orlando and for you!!
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Siamese are very loyal to their person, I have had a few and they
are my favorites too. They pick their person and love them
unconditionally, my baby Joey always wants to be with me, he always
wants to be in my lap. He is a mix and has a squeak for a voice but his
loyalness and
Hi Tonya,
Lysine as far as I know isn't going to hurt his kidney's, never heard
that Cosquin helps them, Fred gets this for his arthritis too. He gets
the pink and white capsules, my vet said I could go with 1 or 2 a day
depending on how Fred's arthritis seemed to be. He currently get 1
Yes I did that with Fred he would turn around and bite me, so we did
the clothes pins. He didn't get all mellow and happy BUT he couldn't
reach me to bite me so after using the clothes pins for a week or so he
just gave up and decided to give in. Now I just go pick him up and
carry him
We discovered Freds early CRF when we were checking him for hyper-t,
barely hyper-t also, we were watching him for that because he had a very
tiny bump there, but his thyroid test was normal, including the TFree4.
Once my vet felt like it had gotten a bit bigger we tested again and he
was
I used about 5 or 6 clothes pins, starting up fairly high on his
neck/back of head (about an inch inch and a half or so behind his ears)
to right above where I would give the fluids. He couldn't run his head
far enough to reach back and nip me.
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Can't remember where you are located but someone just posted recently
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company. Here is the actual post:
looking for a FELV kitten/cat*
Contact Information
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Sue,
Sorry to hear that Buzz isn't feeling well. Sounds like it could be
anemia, make sure they test for that and hemobartonella.
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Many things can cause anemia in positives and negatives, just
because a cat is positive and becomes anemic doesn't mean the reason for
it shouldn't be sought and treated. One likely cause for a cat to
become anemic is hemobartonella which is extremely difficult to test for
... I know
Bailey was on the other name for the procrit, it is epogen.
Bailey bacame anemic and we did a bone marrow aspirate and tested for
hemobartonella. I had him on doxy even though he tested negative. He
had precancerous cells in his marrow and the oncologist my vet consulted
with, he was
Hi Jennifer,
I have created a photo album for anyone who would like to post their
kitties, positive or otherwise for all us to see.
Just send me your photos in an email/s or if you know how to zip them
you can do that. I will put them in your own album. Let me know what
you would like
Just make sure it doesn't have any citrus oil in it.
There is a product named Orange Guard that works really well, smells great
and is non-toxic. It is a bit expensive but it lasts a long time. You can buy
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When the vet suggests chemo for this cancer, you have to know that they are
reccommending this as a life-prolonging treatment that will at best, prolong
the cat's life by only a few months.
This is not true in more cases than not, even with FeLV+ cats,
Caroline,
I'm really sorry that Monkee had such a difficult time, I also
believe we are all here for a given time and once it is our time to go,
we go.
It is my understanding anytime there is a tumor on a limb, the limb
should be amputated, this in almost all cases along with chemo and
If the cancer had already spread and the leg had been removed, the
outcome may very well have been the same, there are just some kitties
that chemo just doesn't seem to work for.
My Mikie (FeLV+) way back in 1994 had kidney cancer, we did chemo and he
responded instantly, I kid you not, he got
I'm sorry to let you all know, Michelle's Patches passed away
yesterday at the hospital, her body just wasn't physically strong enough
to handle anymore treatment ... they are devastated, please say a prayer
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I just remodeled the http://FeLV.org website and would like you to
send your stories about your FeLV, FIV or even FIP experiences to post
to the website. I am looking to put together an informed website with
the most current information out there. I am just starting on that
Make sure the vet puts him on doxocycline if he isn't already taking
it, it may save his life if he has hemobartonella. Fleas can and do
ride in on your shoes, so don't be fooled into thinking just because
your cats are indoor only they can't have fleas. There may only be one
flea that
Hi All,
Got a note from MC about a former very active member of the list,
some may remember Mari, the screen name she used was spiritcat. She
lives in the Houston area and was hit pretty hard by hurricane Ike.
She's got a lot of very special-needs kitties--two leggers, in diapers,
Hi Kelley, I belong to the CRF group, it is pretty big and very
supportive and informative, you can join here:
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Hi Herbert,
I belong to a feline lymphoma group and almost all of the kitties
positive or negative that have stayed in remission the longest have
stayed on chemo anywhere from 1 to 2 years, those being on it longer
doing better. What most vets usually do is follow certain protocols
Hi Herbert,
Also I forgot to mention most kitties are on the initial protocol for
anywhere from 6 months to a year, where they get chemo weekly or
bi-weekly depending on the protocol being used, then they go to a
maintenance protocol which is usually once every 3 week to once a month.
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Normally 30mg is the dose given once daily, this is what my vet
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By this comment I was talking about CO-Q 10
Normally 30mg is the dose given once daily, this is what my vet
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Licking before, during or after eating usually means acid tummy,
pepcid AC will help with that, CRF kitties commonly have this and get
pepcid AC (regular strength only, not maximum strength). They usually
start out with a 1/4 pill every other day and work up to a daily does if
that isn't
Some people use zantac if their kitties don't tolerate the pepcid,
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Hi Sue,
I would get him checked as soon as possible even if you have to go
somewhere else. I don't want to scare you but it could be a tumor or
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I think you may want to join the Felinelymphoma yahoo group, I am a
member and there are many there whose kitties have had this type of
cancer before, it is one that is very treatable but only if you treat
quickly and aggressively. You can join the group here:
Hi Tonya,
Yes there still is a Candle Light Service page, you can find it here:
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Hi All, this message never came through the list as far as I know,
something wrong with it and it wasn't allowed. If any one has any
answers for April please write directly to her at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *as I am not sure she is getting list
messages. James can you check on that please,
Hi Sidney,
Welcome, I am sorry General is feeling so poorly, pancreatitis is a
booger to deal with, Bailey had this and it eventually turned into
cancer and I lost him to it. He was FeLV+ at 5 months of age and passed
at 11 years old. We didn't realize he had pancreatitis because he
Hi Anne,
Got both your guys on the Candle Light Service, Gloria, got your B.B.
also, my condolences to you both on your losses of your furbabies.
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Terrie,
Thats a great accomplishment!!
I would like to add that being a small rescue we came in 25th in Washington
state for the Animal Rescue Site Shelter Challenge.
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Hi Gloria,
Just an FYI, Nutrived is better than Pet Tinic, it has the folic acid
needed in blood building and Pet Tinic doesn't. Vit B, Iron and Folic
acid are needed to biuld blood.
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Has the vet put her on Doxoxycline, hemobartonella is a very common
cause of anemia and positives get it frequently. Doxy will help get rid
of it and if she doesn't have it won't hurt her but if she does, she
will die if it isn't treated and the doxy may just save her life. Has
she even
Cats almost never get low on iron, it does happen but not very common.
Bailey was low when he was anemic but my vet said this was not very
common. Has your vet tested the baby to make sure she is low on iron,
too much iron isn't good either. You may try nutrivid it is a vitamin
b, folic
*Michelle Lerner a former member asked me to post this:*
Hi, Belinda. I have a couple of boxes of unopened feline interferon
omega from England in my fridge.With all my positives gone I am not
using it. I wrote to Hideyo a month or so ago to see if she wants it
(for free) but she
Hi Sidney,
Hi Sidney, I know you said you are not really familiar with kitties
and there needs so this is an FYI to help, please don't give any broth
that you have bought in the store to a cat, it almost certainly contains
onion as part of the flavoring and onion is very deadly to cats,
Do you have the brand name and a phone number, I would be happy to
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Sidney, you didn't create a fuss or do anything wrong, it was just
something I was aware of and if it something concerning the safety of
our kitties I feel it is better mentioned than not.
Nobody knows everything but I learn by being told or by example. You
can't be doing anything wrong
Sharyl,
Thank you for your input, I'd like to add that most kitties
initially don't like to be assist fed, this does not in most cases mean
they are ready to die. The process of not eating is a very vicious
cycle. When a cat doesn't feel good OR can't smell their food, they
Hi, this was sent to the list but didn't make it, I am forwarding it,
please respond to April directly at * aprilpres...@verizon.net*
Hi. I am responding to a post by Wendy on 1/10/09 titled ‘Benny’…sorry,
I am not sure
I'm not sure if Peter is a list member or not, I got this as a bounce I believe so
please respond to him at his email address, if you are a member Peter great, if not
you can *join here*
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Peter's email: tai...@yahoo.com
I know a lot of us use Rescue Remedy so please read this for your
pets safety:
*Rescue Remedy, a product most are familiar with for its calming
purposes, has a new product on the marlet called __*_*Rescue
*_*_Pastille_ . Be careful, _this contains xylitol, a known toxin to
pets_, and is
Wow, that is an extremely high cost for a transfusion, they are
rip offs, where do you live? I have gotten transfusions for under
$200.00. You may ask your vet about trying epogen, procrit or arsnap
all help with anemia. Bailey my positive was on epogen and prednisolone
when he was
Hi Carol,
Your message came through on the list and if you get this then you
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Terrie,
I am so sorry on the loss of your Mother, losing your Mom is one of
the hardest losses you can go through. It's clear your love and
compassion for animals came from her.
She was greeted by many when she stepped into the rainbow bridge ...
there is one big party going on up
Hi Sally,
Yes the CLS is updated, I think I have kitty I have gotten so far this
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I know that sometimes with dogs, thyroid issues can cause
aggression, I don't know if it is the same with cats, maybe ask your vet
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Survey Answers for Bailey:
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE?
Bailey was positive when I found him at 5 months of age. I had him
tested several times throughout his life and he always tested positive.
WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO?
I tried the interferon and vitamins and supplements
There is a remembrance to Terrie's Mom and a link to her Memorial
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can find it on the Candle Light Service page with the link below.
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It sounds more like he died of a blood clot to the hind end, a
spinal tumor would not come on suddenly but a blood clot would cause
sudden paralysis to the back legs and in some cases severe pain. I
would be willing to bet the docs were wrong in this case. I'm very
sorry to hear of your
Hi All,
Michelle Lerner asked if I could post this to the list, please call
her at
I'm writing because a good friend of mine who lives in New York City
and does TNR recently found a very friendly, very handsome cat who was
injured. She took him to the vet, where he tested positive
Sorry on my last message, don't call Michelle, call the contact in
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Hi Steven,
Sorry to hear about Samauri, sending lots of positive, healing energy.
My Bailey was 5 months old and positive when I found him, he lived
together with his 8 vaccinated house mates for almost 11 years before I
lost him to undiagnosed pancreatic cancer (none of the tests we did
I agree 100% with Anita, we live in a world where more and more
people become less responsible, less humane and less caring about
anything *but* themselves. Until that changes nothing else will.
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Yes I have used care credit for my teeth when I had to have a
permanent tooth made. It was a $4000.00 bill and using care Credit was
great, I paid interest but paid it off early so it wasn't that bad, my
insurance didn't cover the work so it would have had to come out of my
pocket and the
My condolences to Kerry Gloria, I have posted both of your babies
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I'm on facebook Kelley. Just got on, not real familiar with it yet
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Kelley, I have added Kathy to the CLS, didn't have your friends name
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Typed you into FB seach and 3 possibilities came up which are you?
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Hi Anne,
Sorry for your loss of Jonathan, I have added him to the service,
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Nice to see you here, like I said it gets a little slow on the
weekends, but if you have any questions, just post them, someone will
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Hi Amy,
I was having the same problem with my Fred, he is CRF. He was
steadily losing weight and I finally resorted to feeding him baby food.
I try and get him to eat minimum 3 jars of Gerber 2nd food Heinz
chicken, he likes the Gerber better, creamier and has double the
calories, 4
Yes, hyper-T, didn't think of that, this is what was happening with
Fred, he was always asking for food and eating really good but not
gaining any weight, he was always acting like he was starving. He also
yowled and if I got up he immediately got up to follow me, just in case
I was heading
PS. Fred was hyper-T and had the radio iodine treatment, he was also
CRF we found out when checking for the hyper-T. He had his treatment 3
years ago and is fine, still CRF though.
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Bailey also did not do well on the interferon, he would get
lethargic and not eat as well, it was clear when he was on it he didn't
feel well. Have never heard of the other stuff so no comment there.
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Belinda
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Hi Kerry,
What's his HCT, anemia will cause these types of symptoms.
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