Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(

2009-06-01 Thread LauraM
I am so sorry, Sherry. I just wish all this dying would stop. I lost Patrick 
(non-FeLV) Friday night. He was a 14 year old shelter dump (we're moving and 
can't take our 14 year old cat) who I only had for a couple of months. He 
seemed to be adjusting really well at my house -- but he'd been a little off 
the day before, quiet and sitting in a corner. By Friday morning I knew he 
wasn't going to last. I buried him next to Charlotte in the fern garden. Losing 
2 cats in less than a month is really hard. It just makes me appreciate the 
ones who are still with me even more.

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:08 PM


I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly 
deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right 
away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a 
rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen.
Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her 
feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there.
Sherry
 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Venting

2009-06-23 Thread LauraM
I want to vent, too! I've had a bad, bad day!
I work at a county shelter and we have just about had it with people. A woman 
called today and told me that she was getting ready to call Channel 2 news 
about us, because we were so very rude. Why was she ticked off? Because she 
surrendered her dog 2 weeks ago - she and her husband couldn't tolerate the 
dog's destructive behavior - and we were not doing enough to get her dog 
adopted. U..you weren't willing to spend any time and effort whatsoever 
on your dog, so why would anyone else? They decided to just reclaim the dog 
today, since they didn't want her to be euthanized. My colleague who handled 
the reclaim very nicely questioned the husband about his plans for the dog. 
Would they work with her, train her, try to find her another home? After all, 
we didn't want the dog to be reclaimed only to be dumped on us again. Not 
exactly fair to the dog, is it? The husband said he was ready to start cursing 
out my coworker, and apparently a nasty
 email is in the works. And someone else dumped his dog because she had a hot 
spot, and he didn't want to pay a vet, and when we told him that we had a 
low-cost vet we could refer him to, the excuse was, She's too wild around the 
kids. We try to help them, and they counter with another BS excuse. I'm sick 
of it!
And you guys will love this one. Last week a woman surrendered 5 kittens. It 
seems that THREE of her cats had litters of 7 at the same time, and she needs 
to round up all the kittens and bring them to us, because, of course, they all 
roam around outside! She then proceeded to blame the neighborhood tomcats for 
knocking up her females, when naturally it's her irresponsibility that got her 
into this mess. They are planning to bring us nearly 30 cats in all. We had to 
euthanize FIFTY cats and kittens last week, and just as many this week, and 
STILL people refuse to spay/neuter or keep their animals confined when they're 
in heat.
This has to stop. It just has to stop.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+

2009-07-04 Thread LauraM
I have 2 FIV who I keep with 2 FeLV+. Of course the FIVs are vaccinated for 
FeLV. They are the sweetest cats. I have always heard that transmission is 
through deep bites, so I've never been worried about the others catching it.
They live in the garage away from my other cats, which some people think is 
horrible, but it's a heated garage (I keep tortoises in it in the winter and 
aquatic turtles in there year round) and it stays very cool in the summer 
thanks to big trees and a cement floor. There are 3 big windows and the 
cats love watching the turtles inside and the birds and frogs outside. Their 
newest source of entertainment is a large black rat snake who seems to have 
taken up residence in the garage. Every time I try to catch the snake, he 
slithers off under a turtle tank or something, but he sure keeps the kitties 
occupied!
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Bella 3/4/09-7/9/09

2009-07-14 Thread LauraM
I have two that have tested positive but are asymptomatic. They are both around 
3-4 years old. Both big and fat. HoweverI have been through this before and 
know it could change at any time. I'm not doing anything special, just keeping 
them on a good diet and keeping a close eye on them.
So sorry about Bella, I just lost Charlotte a couple of months back and she 
went from healthy to dead in a month.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11

2009-08-11 Thread LauraM
When Charlotte began to decline, one of my first clues that something was 
amiss was her heavy breathing. My vet said that this was a result of severe 
anemia. Even though she had a blood transfusion and seemed to become more alert 
and comfortable during her last month, the heavy breathing remained until the 
end.

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Claire Smith sassybean...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Claire Smith sassybean...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 4:29 PM





I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who are feline 
leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look and basically act 
healthy. One of them has started having a dilated pupil - it is not constant 
but it has been occuring a lot lately. She will also start panting and 
breathing heavy - I have central air and keep it on all the time.The last time 
she did this, it was actually very cool in her room. 
The other one had seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and 
only time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on both eyes) 
started staying out. He can still see but not too well. 
 
Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the disease? There are 
no other symptoms for either one of them at this time. 
 
Claire


      
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[Felvtalk] Bridget - new positive kitten - questions about treatment

2009-11-20 Thread LauraM
My Bridget - about 7 months old - has tested positive for FeLV. Someone a while 
back had mentioned a treatment she'd been using on a litter of positive kittens 
with good results. My vet, bless him, is willing to try new treatments - he 
sees a lot of FeLV in his practice - so I'd love to know what this is and where 
we can get it.
Bridget's brother, Chutney, passed away suddenly after Halloween and he'd 
tested negative just 6 weeks previously.
Poor Bridget will be joining the tough positive crowd (all asymptomatic) in my 
garage (I keep tortoises in it so it's heated and very comfortable):  Sunbeam, 
Baby Girl, Celery and Majestic. Plus she'll meet a couple of 50 pound tortoises!
Any help would be most appreciated!
thanks!
Laura and Bridget
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget - new positive kitten - questions about treatment

2009-11-22 Thread LauraM
Thanks Jenny. A few questions:
Bridget is currently asymptomatic. Could - should - these treatments be used on 
asymptomatic cats? Would they be detrimental or would they simply have no 
benefit?
And could any of them be used simultaneously with each other?
I found some info online on LTCI and immunoregulin and I've printed it out to 
take to my vet. I'd appreciate any links to studies, info etc. that he might 
find useful. 
As for the tortoises - let's just say it's a learning experience for the cats. 
They have discovered the hard way that not all turtles are slow, and not all 
have gentle dispositions. Everybody generally gets along well, though. I'll 
never forget the day that Duncan, my first FeLV cat (he has since passed) met 
my big Burmese brown tortoises, who'd never seen a cat before. He stood in the 
center of their pen and just stared as several of the big guys approached, just 
as curious about him as he was about them. They all touched noses for just a 
moment, then went their separate ways. I would frequently find Duncan curled up 
around Jack, my deformed ornate box turtle. And Baby Girl loves to sleep in my 
hingeback tortoise pen.
Laura

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From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget - new positive kitten - questions about 
treatment
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 5:00 PM


Laura,

I am glad to hear your vet is willing to try something.  It is so hard to
watch these healthy young beautiful felv kittens and cats deteriorate so
rapidly and die.

The treatments I am aware of include interferon - an oral preparation most
vets are familiar with and cheap, LTCI (an immunomodulator produced by
Imulan, it is a subcutaneous injection - you can check their website and
contact them or have your vet do so), Acemannan or ambotrose (either a
intraperitoneal injection or oral supplement made by Mannetech I believe is
their name you can google ambotrose).  I have heard that early on in the
disease high dose iv vitamin c can change viral status.  Other holistic
approaches/alternative meds include Wei Qi Booster (chinese herbal) and raw
diet.   There are other things out there, but I am not too familiar with
them, a group A strep product (it's a bacterial derivative tried in the past
with some success, but I haven't seen or heard much recently about it)

You really have 50 pound tortoises, wow, that's something else.  That is a
world I am utterly unfamiliar with.  Do they all get along?

Well good luck and God bless.  If you need any more specifics just let me
know.

Jenny


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Re: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS

2009-11-25 Thread LauraM
Crystal, I'm so sorry about Nibbler. I lost Duncan last summer, Charlotte in 
April and Chutney a few weeks ago. Chutney's passing was a shock because we 
didn't know he was positive. He had tested negative just 6 weeks before he 
died, but then his sister Bridget tested positive, so I know that's what killed 
Chutney. I dropped off some info on LTCI at my vet's office today, and I'm 
hoping we can start Bridget on it soon. Maybe, just maybe, she'll have a chance 
at a somewhat normal life. I'm willing to try anything.
Laura

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From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 8:59 PM


Thank you everyone. You all are truly very wonderful and caring people.
Nibbler made it to 16 weeks.  He took a turn for the worse a couple days ago.  
Fortunately, he was purring and happy and we got to hold him as he went.  I 
know he is in a better place even though this is the worst broken heart I have 
ever had.  Nibbler is now in Heaven.


      

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[Felvtalk] Bridget will be started on LTCI

2009-12-03 Thread LauraM
We are going to start Bridget on LTCI. Many thanks to all the members of this 
group - I would not have known about this drug without you.
She's doing great. Very active and lively and not acting sick at all. She's a 
little unhappy because I've moved her into the garage with the other positive 
cats, but she does seem to enjoy the heat in there - I keep it real warm 
because of the tortoises and it's much more comfortable than the house. Bridget 
generally is not fond of other cats, and my FeLV guys and girl are all huge, so 
she's a little intimidated right now, but she'll adjust.
I'll keep you all updated on her progress.
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[Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

2009-12-10 Thread LauraM
As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had 
planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, 
there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug 
into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my 
options? I was excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now 
Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two 
cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to 
try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate 
any suggestions. Thanks.
Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

2009-12-11 Thread LauraM
I know, that's why I'm so shocked myself. I haven't spoken with my vet; he left 
me a voice mail yesterday while I was at work and I didn't have time to call 
him back, since we were swamped with folks desperate to surrender their pets 
before Christmas (I need presents for my kids, so I can't afford to feed my 
dog!). All he said was that it was related to some legal issue, and no one in 
the state is currently able to get it. Frustrating. The vitamin C thing is 
interesting; I'll have to run that by him.
I'm not far from the GA-AL line...I wonder if I could bring her to Alabama if 
it's available there. I'm just desperate to do SOMETHING while she's still 
healthy. Her brother is gone and I just can't lose her.

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From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:28 PM


I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. 
Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the 
Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all 
their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is 
trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy 
hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these 
days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we 
hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. 
(The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much 
energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then 
when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a 
sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the 
treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months
more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a 
week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have 
the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C 
therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a 
human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on 
the IV vitamin C-I do believe it is worth checking into. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

2009-12-16 Thread LauraM
My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals with drugs 
and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the clinics who'd been 
previously using it. It is so, so frustrating (especially since I just 
refinanced and so - for once - I actually have some money!). Since I'm so close 
to Alabama, going out of state might be my best bet. In the meantime, the 
vitamin C therapy sounds interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful!

 
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[Felvtalk] Bridget and LTCI

2010-01-21 Thread LauraM
My vet was finally able to get LTCI. Bridget had her first injection today! 
They are all very excited about it since they haven't used this treatment 
before.
She still looks great - no symptoms - and she's gained a pound and a half since 
November.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget and LTCI

2010-01-21 Thread LauraM
Bridget is about ten months old. Sadly, her brother Chutney passed a few months 
ago and so he never got the chance that this treatment - hopefully - will 
provide. Please let me know how your two are doing!



 
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[Felvtalk] Frosty Paws will be PTS tomorrow

2010-02-16 Thread LauraM
More sad news to add to the rest of the sad news out there.
Frosty Paws and I have an appointment for 4:30 tomorrow at our vet's. I think 
it is time to let him go, and I refuse to let him suffer needlessly. We all 
know how our FeLV kids can suffer at the end. So I believe I'm doing the right 
thing. We'll see what the vet says.
 
I've only had him for about a month and a half. He was a stray who somebody 
took in. She had him neutered and combo tested, and the test came back 
positive. Since she'd never had a FeLV + cat before, she felt a little 
overwhelmed, and since I already had 3 of them, I agreed to take him on. Frosty 
has always been quiet - the woman who rescued him said he was the most quiet 
and non-confrontational cat she'd ever met - but I wonder if what we thought of 
as simply quiet (since she didn't have him for long, she didn't truly know his 
personality, either) was actually a sign of illness. He's looked a little down 
for the past week, and this morning his breathing was really labored, and was 
still labored when I returned home from work. Charlotte's breathing was the 
same way before she got a blood transfusion, and she died a month later in 
spite of everything. He also appears to have lost some weight, even though I've 
seen him eating.
 
What do you all think? Is there anything else that can be done? Something we 
can try? I don't want to lose him if there's a possibility of saving him, but I 
don't want him to suffer, either. Thank you for all your concern and advice.
Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Frosty Paws will be PTS tomorrow

2010-02-16 Thread LauraM
Well, I just got off the phone with the woman who rescued him, and she told me 
some things I hadn't known about. First of all, she said he'd frequently been 
sick:  lethargic, lifeless, with labored breathing. She didn't know he was 
positive at the time. And I thought she'd had him for just a little while, but 
in fact he'd lived with her since last April. I'm not sure when he was tested.
So this guy has been symptomatic for some time, now. I wish I'd known this. I 
would have still taken him in - but I'd have begun some sort of treatment a 
month ago.  She's a reiki practicioner, and when he had these episodes of 
illness she'd work on him and he'd recover. She's driving an hour from Newnan 
tomorrow to meet me at the vet, and we'll take things from there.


 
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[Felvtalk] Frosty Paws has passed

2010-02-17 Thread LauraM
I had Frosty Paws PTS this afternoon. I sat with him all day and several times 
thought he was nearly dead, but he stayed alive long enough to make it to the 
vet. My vet agreed that euthanasia was the best option. I had thought I felt a 
lump, and my vet said it was lymphosarcomaso I'm at peace with our decision.
I'm just so angry at the person who gave him to me - apparently he had several 
episodes of sickness during the time she had him, yet I was never informed of 
this. He was presented to us as an asymptomatic cat who had just happened to 
test positive for the virus. If I had known this, I don't think I'd have taken 
on the heartbreak of another sick cat, especially so soon after Chutney's 
death. I'd only had Frosty for a little over a month, and he appeared to be 
healthy until a couple of days ago. My vet said he didn't blame me for being 
ticked off - what if he had had some other disease that could have been passed 
to my cats? I have 3 with FeLV and 2 with FIV, all healthy...she knew her cat 
would have been living with mine and yet she failed to fill me in completely on 
his condition. She'd wanted to be with him when he passed, and I was so angry, 
I called her this morning and told her Frosty hadn't made it through the night. 
Then I hung up on her.
On a happier note - Bridget had her 4th LTCI injection today, and guess what? 
She has been steadily gaining weight and visibly growing since beginning 
treatment.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Frosty Paws has passed

2010-02-17 Thread LauraM
I just wish I had known his history...it probably would have been too late 
anyway, but maybe we could have started him on something, anything, that would 
have given him a little more time.
He was probably suffering for months - he was never taken to a vet until late 
last year, when he was neutered. Poor guy, he was the sweetest soul, so mellow, 
and he fit in so well with my others. I will miss him.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Pennywise Please add to the CLS :(

2010-02-28 Thread LauraM
I'm so sorry, Sherry. But you did all you could for him, and he knows that.

--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Pennywise Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 10:10 PM


Pennywise lost his fight today to this awful disease.He was a feisty little 
firecracker(as Dr. Jen called him.A beautiful orange fluffy baby.He will 
definitely be remembered and truly missed.He was also my monthly sponsor 
kitty.He will be terrorizing the kitties at the bridge. :)
Sherry


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We still would have it no other way


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive

2010-03-04 Thread LauraM

Oh crap.
I remember how I felt a few months back when I found out that Bridget was 
positive - her brother Chutney suddenly crashed and died (he, too, was anemic) 
not even 5 weeks after testing negative on the snap test. I had both with my 
cats, and while I suspect they had contracted the virus before coming to my 
house, who knows? Maybe I have another healthy cat who's actually positive...I 
always think I should retest everybody to be on the safe side but in a way I 
don't want to knowthey're already together, already exposed to whatever the 
others might have.
Charlotte, who passed away nearly a year ago, had tested negative when I 
adopted her but started having symptoms a year later. Again, did she have a 
latent infection or did she contract it here? I'll never know.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive
To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:47 PM


My poor sweet Casper is FeLV+.  So by making the decision to mix I have 
condemned him.  He is anemic and he is going on Doxycyclne and Prednosolone.  
Has anyone ever heard of a cat that has anemia living longer then a few months?
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[Felvtalk] When should Bridget be re-tested?

2010-03-16 Thread LauraM
Bridget is going back to the vet today for her 6th LTCI injection. My vet 
thought we could stop injections at a certain point and then retest, but when 
would be the best time? She is doing so well and has energy she's never had 
before.
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[Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-17 Thread LauraM
Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly 
under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now 
she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby 
Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been 
the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if 
anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe 
made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know 
whether I killed my cat.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-17 Thread LauraM
This really bothers me. For the past week I've had an awful premonition that I 
shouldn't spay her, that she would die during surgery. I had a bad, bad 
feeling. No reason behind it, the thought just kept intruding. I ignored it and 
figured I was just worrying too much. It reminds me of something that happened 
a few years back. I had a day off in the middle of the week, it was springtime, 
 I decided I would go to a nature preserve near my house to look for 
salamanders. Anyway, about a week before I planned to go, I began seeing a 
newspaper headline in my head: Hiker finds body in woods.  The feeling was 
very disturbing and very, very strong. The day of my little trip came, and I 
was so freaked out I didn't go. A few days later I opened up the paper and what 
did I see? Hiker finds body in woods. At the nature preserve I planned to 
visit. In the very same spot I thought I'd find salamanders. It was a mentally 
ill man who had suffered from an
 apparent heart attack and died. 
This time I didn't trust my gut and look what happened. It is my fault.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-17 Thread LauraM
Remember the cat who I had PTS a little over a month ago, Frosty Paws? That cat 
had been neutered by the same vet, who'd wanted to euthanize him  very 
reluctantly did the surgery.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-18 Thread LauraM
I don't think she's fine, at all. When I went into my garage, where I keep my 
positives and my turtles, the air was so thick in there I couldn't stand it. I 
started hyperventilating and I felt sick. As you all know, I've lost a few cats 
to FeLV and this hasn't happened before. I'm telling you, this was either 
intentional or it was negligence, and Bridget knows this. I'll never be able to 
prove it, I'm aware of that, but I know it in my heart.
I found out last night that the same vet nearly killed a friend's cat by giving 
too much anesthesia.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-18 Thread LauraM
I never got to say goodbye. I handed her over and left her with strangers and 
left her to die without me. I don't know how long she'd been dead before the 
vet bothered calling - I left as soon as I got word  it only takes 15 minutes 
to get there, and she was stone cold and stiff as a board. This will haunt me 
for the rest of my life.

--- On Thu, 3/18/10, Jeff Mills jeffkmi...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Jeff Mills jeffkmi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 6:39 PM


I understand your pain.  I took my 17-year old into the vet last June 15th 
because he was very old and fragile, and refused food that morning.  He had 
separated himself from the pride, self-exiling to the living room weeks 
before.  

The technician detected a wheeze - he had been wheezing for years.  He was 17, 
after all.  So the technician told me that he would take Demon in back and put 
him on some oxygen until the doctor could look him over.  He yowled as she took 
him away, and for once in my life, my cat senses failed me.

Moments later, the doctor came into the room to tell me that Demon had arrested 
on the exam table, and there was nothing they could do.  Before I had even had 
a chance to thank him for all the joy he had given me, to honor him by holding 
him as he passed - all of that was taken away from the two of us.

It is hard to not think, If I had only...  Blaming oneself seems natural, 
when the result is the loss of one of our close family members.  And make no 
mistake, that's what the furbabies we take into our lives quickly become.  (I 
am crying as I am writing this.)

But do not let an unfortunate accident diminish the bond you had with your 
fur-daughter, however short it may have been.  Cherish what time you had 
together, and what you learned from her.  Take what she taught you into the 
future with you, for while it still hurts right now, eventually there will be 
another furry relationship, and the things you have learned with Bridget will 
provide you with invaluable lessons for the future.

For the kitties,
Jeffrey Mills



      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-19 Thread LauraM
You might be right about that. I know a woman who's a medium, and when we spoke 
last night she said that Bridget was sent to me to give me two lessons:  one, 
to learn to let go; and two, to trust my instincts more. Well, that's great, 
but if I'd trusted my instincts she'd still be alive! She also said that 
Bridget doesn't blame me and she is very happy on the other side, but will come 
back to me three days after her death (Saturday).

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From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 12:28 PM


please, please remember that we do the very best we can at the moment, with
the information at hand. you know, and bridget knows, that you would NEVER
have done anything willingly to hurt her. you did what you thought was best,
in her best interest. it may be true that you choose not to listen to an
inner voice, but it may equally be true that that was the last lesson that
bridget was here to teach you: to believe in that voice the next time.
sometimes we only learn that sort of lesson this hardest way.

i think that we try to take the blame for things because it's easier to
think that we could have done something differently, changed outcomes, than
to accept that we are, in many many situations, powerless. the healthiest
cat can die from a simple surgery, or a undetected wound, or some genetic
glitch we had no idea existed in its DNA soup. all we can do, for any of
those in our lifes, regardless of species, is love them to the best of our
ability, and know that every minute is a gift.

GLOW to guide Bridget across the bridge, where she was met by many others
who have gone before her. and as many others have said, she WILL come to you
when the most intense pain has diminished a bit.

MC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-19 Thread LauraM
This woman uses an animal communicator herself, so I'm going to look into doing 
that. I'm afraid I'll never reach closure on this one unless I make an extra 
effort. It's horrible when any of them die - but with Frosty Paws  Baby Girl, 
at least I understood WHY. Frosty had a lymphosarcoma and Baby Girl, well, Baby 
Girl finally failed after two good years like so many of them do. I just need 
to know what happened.



 
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[Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat

2010-03-20 Thread LauraM
First, thank you everyone for all your kindness and support over Bridget's 
passing. I appreciate it so much. But she's sent me another FeLV+ friend to 
help! On the evening of 3/17, the day she died, I checked the adoptable 
positives section of the website. Lo and behold, someone in GA had posted an 
available kitty just the day before. I never, ever check those postings, ever, 
but I figured the best way to honor Bridget, Baby Girl, Frosty Paws and the 
rest would be to take in another needy baby. These kind people had found this 
little girl in their neighborhood, but couldn't keep her due to the wife's 
allergies. They'd been boarding her at their vet's office for 5 weeks but 
hadn't been able to find her a home. Anyway, they brought me the cat yesterday, 
and she's just wonderful...still a little nervous around my big boys, but 
she'll be fine. Maybe this was meant to be.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat

2010-03-22 Thread LauraM
And this will freak you out. I met someone on Saturday who has a friend who's a 
full-time psychic. I emailed him about Bridget and his response to me was this: 
Bridget said she left to make room for someone else to come into your life - 
perhaps even a new child. I always referred to her as my baby. He knew nothing 
about the new cat. Weird, isn't it? I got chills when I read that.

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From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 12:45 PM


  That's great news, she knew you needed someone ... and they needed you!!

-- 
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happiness is being owned by cats ...

http://bemikitties.com

http://BelindaSauro.com


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Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond

2010-03-24 Thread LauraM
Crystal, I have lost 3 in a month, so I know how much you're hurting. Bridget's 
death a week ago was sort of the final straw for me. I don't know if I'll ever 
feel better but I'm trying.



 
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[Felvtalk] some comfort

2010-03-24 Thread LauraM
I think I mentioned a few days ago that I would be speaking with an animal 
communicator about Bridget. That happened tonight. I do feel better. I'd been 
so upset about my decision to have her spayed in spite of my apprehension, but 
he said he felt she had a weak immune system, perhaps liver problems, and the 
body she had wouldn't have lasted long. He said the vet did give her too much 
anesthesia - it was the standard amount for a cat her size, but it was just too 
much for her because she had some underlying problems. 
It was interesting. He said she'd been part of a litter with other cats who 
looked very much like her (very true) and who had the same problem (her brother 
died in September). He did say that he didn't see Chutney or the other cats 
around her, even though he knew that I had had other cats who had passed.
This is where it gets strange. He said, She's showing me a whole lot of other 
cats and says you just got two more cats. (yes, the FeLV+ cat from Smyrna and 
one from work who tested positive for FIV so I just kept him.) These cats came 
just a few days ago. He said, be prepared, she says more cats will be coming. 
He wanted to know if I worked in rescue, and I do work at a shelter. I asked 
him if she said anything about other animals, and he said she was talking about 
a medium sized, very noisy black dog (she kept saying I heard the dog) who 
hadn't been around for very long (I just got that dog back in early January). 
That's a dog who would always jump up at her when I let the dogs into the 
house, and she's the noisiest damn dog ever. And he said she kept mentioning a 
farm and some other sort of animal, but he wasn't sure what. I don't have farm 
animals but I do have a ton of turtles who spend winters in the garage with the 
positive cats  summers
 outdoors. That might be what he was referring to.
I asked him whether she liked where she was buried. He said, She says it's a 
memorial garden with flowers and a big oak tree, and she's with others. Very 
true! And the strangest thing: I wondered if she was still around, and he said, 
You have a very big, comfortable bed with a very soft burgundy or wine colored 
throw on it, and that's where she is. And yes - it's a thick, double fleece 
wine colored big blanket, and it's always on the bed, and the cats and the dogs 
love it as much as I do.
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Re: [Felvtalk] some comfort

2010-03-24 Thread LauraM
For anyone who is interested, his name is Tim Link  his website is 
www.wagging-tales.com. He's located in Cumming, GA.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Heavens Cried for Max Today

2010-03-29 Thread LauraM
Sharyl - I lost Speckles to dry FIP today. She'd been losing weight 
gradually and suddenly had wobbly rear legs. Last night she had two seizures 
and at the vet's today the decision was made to euthanize. She was eating and 
drinking today and even purring at the vet. Now I know she has a buddy to play 
with on the other side. 
I feel like I'm just being pummeled over and over. 4 cats gone in slightly over 
a month. I am starting to have nightmares.
Laura

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] The Heavens Cried for Max Today
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 4:50 PM


I just mentioned my dear sweet Maxwell in a post.  I had adopted him and his 
sister last yr from a rescue as FeLV+ kittens.  I lost Molly Brown to wet FIP 
earlier this yr.  Today I lost Max to wet FIP.  I'm guessing their little 
immune suppressed bodies were more susceptible.  

It was raining as I drove Max to the vet this morning to have him PTS.  He 
passed on the way.  He is now at the crematory and his ashes will join Molly's 
and all my Angels.  

He was a real lover.  Was happiest cuddled on my shoulder.  He'd follow me 
around the house and always beat me to the kitchen where he begged for his 
favorite Temptation treats.  

Please add Max to the CLS.  
Sadly
Sharyl


      

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Re: [Felvtalk] The Heavens Cried for Max Today

2010-03-29 Thread LauraM
Last night I had the most horrible dream - I suppose because I knew what would 
happen today. In my dream I reached out to touch a big purple glass ball - then 
it turned around and it was a grinning human skull on a dog's body. I just knew 
it was there to take all my cats so I threw a big candle at it. It said in a 
mocking voice, You wouldn't hurt a dog, would you? Not a dog. Then I picked 
up a big stick and tried to hit it. It killed all my cats with the exception of 
a black and white one  I was very relieved that I'd managed to save one. Now 
that's what I call a stress dream.
I don't even know if I'm going to go to work tomorrow. I just want to stay home 
and be quiet. Today it was Speckles. Not even 2 weeks ago it was Bridget, and 5 
days before Bridget it was Baby Girl. A few weeks before that it was Frosty 
Paws. I'm just waiting for the next bit of bad news.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Percy to the Candlelight list

2010-04-01 Thread LauraM
Beth,
It's bad enough when your cat's death is expected, but when it comes out of the 
blue, it's even worse. I am so sorry for Roxane's loss. At least Percy had a 
month of loving care. So many never even get that.
Laura

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Percy to the Candlelight list
To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 9:53 AM


A good friend of mine Roxane rescued a double positive kitty named Percy about 
a month ago. He passed away suddenly - vomited  collapsed  died. His foster 
mom was just getting ready to take him to the vet. He seemed healthy  was the 
sweetest love bug. Happily his last month was spent inside knowing what it was 
to be loved. Roxane is just devastated.

Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holmes Please add to the CLS :(

2010-04-07 Thread LauraM
Maybe, some day, one of us will be able to post with some great news. Maybe 
someday there will be a cure for this terrible disease. I'm so sorry to hear 
about Holmes, Sherry.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] i was wrong. it wasn't the ifa test the vet ran.

2010-04-10 Thread LauraM
Shelters don't kill cats. The public does. I work for a county shelter and yes, 
we do euthanize. As few animals as possible, but we do euthanize. It isn't the 
shelters' fault. They get incredible numbers of animals dumped on them every 
day. Most of our cats are friendly cats picked up as strays. So, if someone 
lets his or her cat roam outside, and the cat gets picked up by animal control, 
and no one bothers to reclaim the cat (she always comes back in a few days or 
we just figured he ran away) or no one adopts the animal and the animal gets 
PTS, who's the killer? It's the irresponsible, lazy owner who didn't want to 
clean the litterbox or spend 50 cents worth of gas to drive to AC to check if 
the cat is there. Not the shelter workers, who have a miserable job to do  
have to do it because animal welfare is on the bottom of most counties' 
financial priorities.
 
Mandatory spay/neuter would help. Good luck with that out here in good ol' boy 
country.
 
Most people at shelters work very, very hard to get animals adopted out and 
feel like absolute failures when they can't. Rescues come and pick the 
prettiest and the fanciest dogs and cats; for the most part, there's very 
little actual rescue going on there.
 
Just my 2 cents.

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Re: [Felvtalk] i was wrong. it wasn't the ifa test the vet ran.

2010-04-10 Thread LauraM
I would also like to add that the picking and choosing primarily occurs with 
dog rescues, not cat rescues. We've had cat rescues take FeLV+ cats from us, 
cats with one eye, cats with real problems, very senior cats. It's not all of 
them, by any means, but quite a few of the dog rescues who take animals from us 
seem to want only small, very adoptable dogs or purebreds.


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues

2010-04-10 Thread LauraM
I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out 
of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they 
reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not 
wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we 
pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket 
every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue.
There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but 
there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals 
to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be 
adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA 
shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no 
no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as bad because they are 
forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is 
miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to 
take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our 
director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at 
capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - 
several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just 
a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants
 cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at 
Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was 
surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. 
She just kept screaming at me, I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can't 
pay for it! I charged her a $40 euthanasia fee - we will try to get that cat 
out of there, but that owner needed to pay for something. One day somebody 
turned in 15 cats because they were moving. It's so discouraging, they keep 
coming in and coming in, and we've been getting pregnant cats and kittens like 
crazy over the past 2 months, and this kitten season will be a bloodbath. This 
is the time of year when I have to imagine a zipper over my mouth because I get 
so fed up with these people, nasty stuff just slips on out. 
Our director will not euthanize cats with FeLV and FIV. We adopt them out. He 
knows that I have cats with both and he knows that they can have a great 
quality of life. Sorry for venting, I just get tired of being told - from both 
the public and from people in rescue - that you kill animals there. If they 
have a solution for dealing with all the so-called strays and owner surrenders 
and accidental litters, we would be happy to hear about it. 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues

2010-04-11 Thread LauraM
Just checked my email - there is a senior rescue in Vermont who may be 
interested!

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 11:40 PM


the info on the little diabetic kitty went out earlier today to a group that
is incredibly active with placing them! saw the story on another list this
afternoon.

MC

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Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues

2010-04-13 Thread LauraM
You have taken FeLV+  elderly cats from us!
Our diabetic cat went to rescue yesterday.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 1:14 PM


Thank you for all you do for Georgia, Laura. 
Our rescue pulls from many Animal Controls in GA. We don't euthanize for FIV or 
FeLV. In fact we have an entire house we rented to house all the FIV kitties. 
One of our volunteers nicknamed it The House of Love. We have adopted some of 
them out.
We do pull some pretty cats that we know will be easy adoptions, especially 
if they are already fixed. If a cat is going to be an easy adoption,  make us 
a few dollars it helps defer some of the costs for the animals who cost us a 
lot - and we have many of those. We certainly don't ask for vetting to be done. 
We also have many special needs cats  have taken elderly cats, abused cats, 
3-legged cats, etc.. The one cat I have on My FeLV Cats Face Book page was 
pulled by our rescue from an AC. We think he was beaten with a baseball bat. We 
do take some owner surrenders. I guess we get them before they go to AC. We 
also try to help people as best we can to keep the cat they are trying to 
surrender if it is through no fault of their own.

Beth
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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 8:15 PM

I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out 
of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they 
reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not 
wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we 
pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket 
every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue.
There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but 
there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals 
to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be 
adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA 
shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no 
no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as bad because they are 
forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is 
miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to 
take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our 
director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at 
capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - 
several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just 
a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants
cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at 
Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was 
surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. 
She just kept screaming at me, I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can't 
pay for it! I charged her a $40 euthanasia fee - we will try to get that cat 
out of there, but that owner needed to pay for something. One day somebody 
turned in 15 cats because they were moving. It's so discouraging, they keep 
coming in and coming in, and we've been getting pregnant cats and kittens like 
crazy over the past 2 months, and this kitten season will be a bloodbath. This 
is the time of year when I have to imagine a zipper over my mouth because I get 
so fed up with these people, nasty stuff just slips on out. 
Our director will not euthanize cats with FeLV and FIV. We adopt them out. He 
knows that I have cats with both and he knows that they can have a great 
quality of life. Sorry for venting, I just get tired of being told - from both 
the public and from people in rescue - that you kill animals there. If they 
have a solution for dealing with all the so-called strays and owner surrenders 
and accidental litters, we would be happy to hear about it. 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] GMA Weekend - Bill hates cats

2010-05-01 Thread LauraM
You can be certain he wouldn't have said he hated dogs. But it's OK  
acceptable to hate cats. It's funny, when people come to the shelter I usually 
ask them whether they're looking for a cat or a dog. I can't tell you how many 
times someone has responded, Dogs. I hate cats. But I've never heard anyone 
say, Cats. I hate dogs.


--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] GMA Weekend - Bill hates cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 9:20 AM


Was watching GMA Weekend this AM.  During a segment on stuff made out of cat 
food cans Bill Weir said he hated cats.  Just had to respond to ABC News with 
the following post.

Just wanted you to know I will no longer watch GMA Weekends after Bill's 
comment today that he hates cats. I don't need to waste my time watching anyone 
who hates a living creature. I do not like rats, mosquitoes or cockroaches but 
would never say on national TV that I hated them.

I spend my free time involved in cat rescue and TNR of ferals/hard strays. I do 
not expect cat friendly stories but I sure did not expect to hear an anchor say 
he hated cats. You can be sure I will share Bill's comments with various 
on-line cat groups. 
Sharyl Cline
Spay the Shore 
Eastern Shore of VA


      

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Re: [Felvtalk] Dante has passed over the Rainbow Bridge

2010-06-09 Thread LauraM
Beth, I am so sorry.  I've had some of my FeLV positive cats for only a few 
months before they've passed, and others I've had for several years. Only one 
of my original group is still alive. We never know how much time we can give 
them, but the point is, we give them time. At least Dante didn't die at Animal 
Control, unwanted and unloved. You gave him the rest of his life. He knows that.
 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brown spider (loxosceles reclusa) bite leads to hemolytic anemia

2010-07-10 Thread LauraM
I was bitten by one last November. My wound didn't become necrotic - but the 
swollen area was about 10 in diameter, it was tremendously painful and I have 
a discolored  noticeable concavity in my leg at the bite site which will 
probably be permanent. Since that time I have suffered from constant exhaustion 
along with muscle spasms in the affected leg that are sometimes non-stop.
So, I am always on the lookout for them. Interesting - I would love to see the 
research if you would kindly email it to me.

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Brown spider (loxosceles reclusa) bite leads to hemolytic 
anemia
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 11:53 PM


Dears,

I keep thinking of how fast I lost Beltza, and hence I keep researching.
Just to find out that is very weird*, but that the bite of a *Loxosceles
reclusa* causes hemolytic anemia.

*weird in adults, not that weird in children -- I would say, not that weird
in our cats.

I don't know if these spiders are common where you live, but please google a
pic of them so you can recognize it --and kill it--- when you see one.
Please don't expose your kitties to this bug.

Best,
Ana

PS. If someone wants the original scientific papers I've read, let me know,
so I can email them
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[Felvtalk] False positives with snap test?

2010-08-19 Thread LauraM
We had two cats test positive for FeLV at our shelter yesterday. Today we found 
out that the new snap tests (the ones that test for heartworm also) have been 
associated with a higher number of false positives. I'm wondering how many of 
you have had experience with this, since one of these cats is a five year old 
neutered 20-pounder who's never been around other cats and has never been 
outside, and so I was a little surprised at the positive result. We would like 
to retest them but can't find any tests of the older type. Desperation is 
setting in because if we can't find somewhere else for them to go, and we have 
only yesterday's results to rely on, both will go down on Tuesday. If any of 
you can give me more info, I'd really appreciate it; I can then relay that to 
my director and maybe buy them another week. Thanks!!
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[Felvtalk] please add Tiger to the CLS

2010-09-02 Thread LauraM
Tiger didn't have FeLV, but he passed away last night, much too soon. He was 
thirteen. I'd had him for three years.  He was always a gentleman  a loving, 
sweet boy. Three weeks ago we went to the vet. Something was wrong; he was 
sluggish and not eating well. It turns out he had a large abcess in his throat. 
The abcess was lanced, a whole lot of dead tissue was removed, we were sent 
home with antibiotics and everyone thought things would be fine. They weren't - 
there was a second vet visit last Monday, the abcess was drained again  he was 
given more fluids. Tiger was hospitalized this Monday. The abcess wouldn't 
clear up, and even though he was given a stronger antibiotic he just couldn't 
fight the infection. I visited him yesterday and he ate for me and purred and 
purred. I didn't want to get my hopes up too high, but I still wasn't expecting 
my vet to call this morning  give me the news that he'd died. I thought maybe 
we had a little bit of a
 chance. It turns out that Tiger had a hole in his esophagus; he must have 
ingested something that cut him. I would give anything to have him back with me.
I wish I had taken him in sooner. He'd been quiet this summer, and not sleeping 
with me at night like he normally did, but everybody was quiet this summer 
because the house was so warm. Nobody else was snuggling with me on the bed 
either. I didn't pick up on the little signs that he wasn't feeling well. If I 
had, he might still be alive today.
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[Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread LauraM
OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few 
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and really 
made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as disposable 
property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An inconvenience, to be 
tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport that 
must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die there, 
and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI called our 
animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up. Turns out, it 
was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get hit! - same old 
story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem, doesn't want a vet 
bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about it and goes about her 
day. My officer told her, This is your responsibility, not mine - you get that 
cat to a vet. Later on, the caller once again rang up animal control: If I 
have a cat that's been hit by a car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what 
don't you understand - this is your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE 
HER TO THE VET. 
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a crate. 
He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues with his 
teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some other stuff. 
I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave her some phone 
numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the cost of treatment. 
Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize him on Tuesday. I 
tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to get her to understand 
that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a place with strangers, to 
sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be tossed in a black trash bag 
and thrown into the dump like garbage. Naturally, she had no money - but if 
you're a good client, chances are your vet will euthanize for free or next to 
nothing; my vet has never charged me to euthanize an animal. And she had months 
to prepare for this, but
 she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of course, 
like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she said to me, 
I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so badly to follow 
her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of her, but I need my 
job.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this 
attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in shelters 
or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking about. Someone 
will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after your mistakes, so 
why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident surrendered 4 kittens 
last week and called today to ask if they'd been adopted. They had all gone out 
to a rescue. After hollering, Praise Jesus! They're safe! she asked me, So, 
the next time I have kittens, should I call this rescue directly or do I have 
to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't let them be born! Come here on euthanasia 
day and then ask yourself if you should be producing more kittens!
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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-04 Thread LauraM
especially after all I've been through in the past several weeks with Tiger. I 
don't have any money, either. But I could never imagine leaving my good friend 
at a kill shelter. 



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-07 Thread LauraM
If I didn't need my job, Beverly, if I only didn't need my job..the things 
I would say. When I win the lottery and start my old-cat rescue, I WILL open my 
mouth!

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, POTT, BEVERLY p...@mailbox.sc.edu wrote:


From: POTT, BEVERLY p...@mailbox.sc.edu
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 9:12 AM


Laura, give me her contact information and I'll tell her what you couldn't. I 
have a vocabulary that would make a sailor blush!



From: LauraM [mailto:hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sat 9/4/2010 8:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend



OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few 
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and really 
made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as disposable 
property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An inconvenience, to be 
tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport that 
must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die there, 
and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI called our 
animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up. Turns out, it 
was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get hit! - same old 
story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem, doesn't want a vet 
bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about it and goes about her 
day. My officer told her, This is your responsibility, not mine - you get that 
cat to a vet. Later on, the caller once again rang up animal control: If I 
have a cat that's been hit by a car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what 
don't you understand - this is your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE 
HER TO THE VET.
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a crate. 
He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues with his 
teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some other stuff. 
I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave her some phone 
numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the cost of treatment. 
Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize him on Tuesday. I 
tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to get her to understand 
that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a place with strangers, to 
sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be tossed in a black trash bag 
and thrown into the dump like garbage. Naturally, she had no money - but if 
you're a good client, chances are your vet will euthanize for free or next to 
nothing; my vet has never charged me to euthanize an animal. And she had months 
to prepare for this, but
she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of course, 
like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she said to me, 
I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so badly to follow 
her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of her, but I need my 
job.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this 
attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in shelters 
or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking about. Someone 
will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after your mistakes, so 
why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident surrendered 4 kittens 
last week and called today to ask if they'd been adopted. They had all gone out 
to a rescue. After hollering, Praise Jesus! They're safe! she asked me, So, 
the next time I have kittens, should I call this rescue directly or do I have 
to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't let them be born! Come here on euthanasia 
day and then ask yourself if you should be producing more kittens!
Thanks for letting me vent.



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Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over

2010-09-27 Thread LauraM
Tiger (non FeLV) also had an abcess on his throat. It was drained but came back 
so fast. And his white blood cell count dropped so dramatically in two weeks 
that my vet thought he had leukemia, also. They had never seen anything like 
it. I also kept asking myself if there was anything I could have done, or 
anything I should have noticed. Then I realized that his infection came on so 
very quickly and with such strength that there probably wasn't a thing that 
could be done about it. Still, I have felt guilty for a month. He died 
overnight at the vet. I wanted the best for him, but I wish I could have been 
with him so he didn't have to die alone.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I killed my kitten last night...

2010-11-06 Thread LauraM
Oh, Kim, I have been through this so many times and so many times I've said I 
killed my cat/tortoise/lizard/snake/whatever. You did not kill her. You did 
the best you could at the time with the information you had, and I am so sorry 
that you feel this way. It's normal to blame oneself but hindsight is 20/20; a 
cliche, I know, but so true.
On St Patrick's Day my FeLV+ cat, Bridget, died at the vet. She was there to be 
spayed but never made it to the table - they put her under and she died. 
Horrible. But what was even more horrible was that I had a premonition that she 
would die during surgery, for weeks. A voice literally screamed in my head. 
DON'T DO IT, SHE WILL DIE. And yet I did it, and got that awful phone call from 
the vet. That night I posted on this forum - it's my fault, I killed her. I 
was so grateful for the assurances from other members that no, I didn't kill 
her.I tried my best and something happened. I am sure that many other folks 
will have a similar story. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] What to do after they die?

2010-11-08 Thread LauraM
I am so sorry about Chloe, Laura. I lost Celery 2 weeks ago. He went from 
healthy to dead in a week. I had made an appointment to have him euthanized on 
a Wednesday morning. Our appointment was at 3 PM. He went downhill in just 
those few hours. I put him in the car, got him to the vet's ten minutes away, 
filled out the paperwork, reached my hand down to pet him and he was already 
dead.

In my case, I keep my FeLV cats in my heated garage away from my healthy cats. 
I have always wondered about the possibility of tracking the virus in on my 
feet or on the dogs' paws. 

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Laura Svoboda lazygra...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Laura Svoboda lazygra...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] What to do after they die?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 1:25 PM


Hello,

I tried sending a post several days ago, but my membership had not gone through 
yet so my post was rejected.  I was asking for suggestions on how to get my FLV 
cat, Chloe, to eat.  Very sadly, she passed away early yesterday morning.  I 
wish I had found this group earlier, but from the time she started feeling 
droopy to the time she passed away was just three weeks - way too fast.  
Anyway, 
can anyone tell me what I need to do, if anything, to her cat tree, cat tunnel, 
litter box, toys, etc. before I pass them on to another home?  I have read that 
the virus does not live long outside of the body, but have also read that a 
person should wait 30 days before introducing another cat in the home - leaving 
me to believe that perhaps her things may still have enough of the virus on 
them 
to get other cats sick.  That is the last thing I'd want.  Does anyone have any 
suggestions?



      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread LauraM
I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression displayed by 
one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so bad that I'm seriously 
considering  rehoming him into a single-cat household. Blizzard will literally 
try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie and Tiger. They have to be kept separate at all 
times - Blizzard gets his time out and the other 4 have to be shut up in the 
bathroom. Bliz is fine with most everybody else, but in general dislikes other 
cats. Some nights I am woken up over and over again by fights and squabbling, 
and he is the instigator. I've had him for 2 years - I took him from somebody 
who was being evicted. It's always been a problem, but because he gets worked 
up and can attack people also (I have the scars to prove it) I've been 
reluctant to give him away. I'm afraid he'd tick somebody off and wind up in a 
shelter or thrown outside. If I can't find him a home I'll have to build him an 
outdoor enclosure. My house is
 small and he can't go into the spare room because I keep baby turtles there, 
and my positives are in the garage.





 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-20 Thread LauraM
Thank you, Dana, I will try this. I'm desperate and Blizzard is a good cat, I 
just can't understand why he is the way he is.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death

2010-12-21 Thread LauraM
I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily 
live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but 
what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die 
in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight? We sometimes get large groups 
of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and 
relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs 
euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will.

--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:


From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:56 AM


My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for 
all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will
care for them?  I have three grown kids and grown grandkids
and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own.

I would like to find someone to move into our house and take
care of them.  I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice
house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV.

So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find
good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and
dump the cat?

I worry about my fur babies constantly.  They are my life. If
anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me
personally.

Lorrie 


On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 Consider providing for them in your will.  I had a lawyer draw up one  
 leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys.
 On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 Wow, Natalie, that is impressive.  You definitely have a lot
 more cats than we have.  I'd take in more if my hubby and I
 weren't so ancient (77 and 88)  but I'm afraid when we die
 we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and
 we have no rescue group to help.. We're it!
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-25 Thread LauraM
Yes, it's very difficult to deal with, for me and for the other cats. Funny 
though, Blizzard sometimes seems afraid of other cats. For example, yesterday 
several of the cats were clustered around the food bowl with 3 or 4 others 
close by. Bliz wanted to get into the living room, but these cats were in the 
way.  He approached the group and was obviously uncomfortable passing through 
it, so instead he circled around the dog's crate and into the living room, 
giving the group of cats a wide berth. This has happened before; it almost 
appears as if he's intimidated by them, yet he'll walk through the house 
slapping everybody in his path.
I remember my vet telling me about a professor of his in vet school. This 
professor had a client with 2 cats, one submissive and one very aggressive. She 
decided to give the aggressive cat an injection of estrogen, and the submissive 
cat an injection of testosterone. The aggressive cat approached the other one 
and attacked him as usual, even though he probably wasn't feeling quite 
like himself due to the estrogen. The submissive cat then beat the heck out of 
the attacker, and they never had a problem after that!

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From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 5:58 PM


Thank God we only have hissing, slapping type fights.  So far.
 Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: 
 Laura, I feel for you I had one like that!  He tore up all my
 other cats, and it got so bad I had to keep him in one section of our
 house. He was about two when we rescued him and we had to do this for
 ten years until he finally got so old he decided he'd rather sleep 
 than fight!
 
 Lorrie
 
  On 12-19, LauraM wrote:
  I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression
   displayed by one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so
   bad that I'm seriously considering? rehoming him into a single-cat
   household. Blizzard will literally try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie
   and Tiger. They have to be kept separate at all times - 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky is an angel

2011-01-02 Thread LauraM
Sherry, Stacy and everyone elseI am so saddened by your losses. I've lost 2 
in the past 2 months, Celery and Seymour. Now there are only 3 left, and I hate 
wondering when the next one will go. I've lost five positives in 2010 - let's 
hope 2011 will be a slightly happier year.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread LauraM
I've tried using those statistics on people who refuse to contain their cats, 
thinking they MIGHT care about wildlife even though they clearly aren't 
concerned with their cats' own safety. Hasn't worked. There are also people out 
there who want irresponsible owners of bird-killing cats to be held legally 
liable, as it's a violation of federal law to kill most bird species  has been 
for decades.  And in some areas cats have reduced the rodent population to such 
low numbers that migrating raptors - all federally protected - have nothing to 
eat. 
Cats, as non-native, introduced and subsidized predators, have no business 
being outside.

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread LauraM
Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is habitat loss, but cats are #2.
There's a well-known study that was conducted on a couple of adjacent beaches 
in California, one with a feral cat population and one without. The beach that 
is home to feral cats has no birds - remember that most shorebirds are ground 
nesters - while the cat-free beach supports a healthy bird population. 
Of course, our birds have natural predators - some raptors such as red-tailed 
hawks prey mostly on birds. Kingsnakes and rat snakes are known for feasting on 
eggs and hatchlings. But this is natural predation  so things are kept in 
balance. Throw in a highly efficient predator such as a cat and the balance 
changes.

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:36 PM


Sorry but that information is outdated or biased.  

The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction 
for 
same.

Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds
http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325

SomeWhere Sam





From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 2:37:38 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

In the newspaper today:

House cats are the #1 predator of wild birds.  The American Bird Conservancy 
estimates up to 500 million birds per year are killed by cats.  About 400,000 
are killed yearly by wind turbines (less than 20% of the number killed by 
cats).  So now we have another reason to keep our cats indoors -- not only for 
their own health and safety, but for that of our BIRD population!
Save the cats and the birds: Keep Your Cat Indoors!
~Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread LauraM
Maureen - I am in GA also, and analysis of coyote stomach contents showed that 
something like 60% of them contained cat remains. I suspect that's why we have 
such a coyote problem, even in the suburbs - they are supplied with an 
endless number of cats as prey - somebody's cat goes missing and they just 
replace it with another one.

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:58 AM



You can also take it further and reiterate that humans are the #1 killers of 
birds because of the dummies that let their un-altered pet cats run around 
outside and breed and have kittens everywhere, not just because of the habitat 
destruction that we do.

I think where I live in GA some of the rodents are getting a reprive because 
all the coyotes who would normally eat some of the rodents are getting full on 
my feral cats.  It's so sad.  I don't hate the coyotes for doing it (just like 
I don't hate or blame cats for killing other small prey) but it breaks my heart 
everytime a feral goes missing.  

All points always come back to the main topic of the importance of keeping the 
cats indoors (and getting them fixed).  All we can do is spread the message and 
hope it makes a difference.  And it my part of the world it has made a huge 
difference.  When I was a kid, no one contemplated keeping a cat indoors it's 
whole life.  But now, more and more people are.  I can tell by the people I 
meet at our adoptions.  Things are changing - we just have a long way to go 
still.


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain



 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:23:12 -0700
 From: sin...@sbcglobal.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
 
 LOL Humans are a non-native, introduced and subsidized predators.G
 This is like expecting pet owners to spay or neuter their pets, interesting 
 idea, one which I would love to see, but seeing and knowing human nature is 
 not 
 going to happen in my lifetime.
 
 SomeWhere Sam
 
 
 
 
 
 From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 6:42:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
 
 I've tried using those statistics on people who refuse to contain their cats, 
 thinking they MIGHT care about wildlife even though they clearly aren't 
 concerned with their cats' own safety. Hasn't worked. There are also people 
 out 
 there who want irresponsible owners of bird-killing cats to be held legally 
 liable, as it's a violation of federal law to kill most bird species  has 
 been 
 for decades. And in some areas cats have reduced the rodent population to 
 such 
 low numbers that migrating raptors - all federally protected - have nothing 
 to 
 eat. 
 
 Cats, as non-native, introduced and subsidized predators, have no business 
 being 
 outside.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Plato Please add to the CLS :(

2011-06-27 Thread LauraM
I am so sorry, I have lost Mimi, Holly and Roosevelt within the past month. I 
am at the point where I really don't want to take in any more positives, I have 
told people not to ask me anymore, I can't do it.  

--- On Mon, 6/27/11, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Plato Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 10:17 PM


Another one of our wonderful Sids kids became an angel today. Plato was a laid 
back sweet gray striped boy who loved to be loved. We will miss you handsome 
boy  :(
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way
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Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

2011-08-03 Thread LauraM
well, I don't know whether it makes me sexier but I do have a really cute 
boyfriend who has four cats. When I met him he told me he was a cat person and 
not too crazy about dogs. That certainly got my attention since most men have 
felt threatened by my 4-legged family members.  I would say it definitely makes 
him sexier, especially since he's the only person I know who can give a cat a 
bath.


From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
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Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

http://www.catster.com/cats-101/does-owning-a-cat-make-you-sexier 



No, we're NOT a bunch of little old ladies in tennis shoes...

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Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

2011-08-06 Thread LauraM
Yes, he wants to give baths to all 20 of my cats!


From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
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Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

He is willing to and can give a cat a bath.  He is a keeper!


 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 Wow, Hang On to _that_ guy!!!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM
 Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?
 
 well, I don't know whether it makes me sexier but I do have a really cute
 boyfriend who has four cats. When I met him he told me he was a cat person
 and not too crazy about dogs. That certainly got my attention since most
 men have felt threatened by my 4-legged family members.  I would say it
 definitely makes him sexier, especially since he's the only person I know
 who can give a cat a bath.
 
 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 9:46 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?
 
 http://www.catster.com/cats-101/does-owning-a-cat-make-you-sexier 
 
 
 
 No, we're NOT a bunch of little old ladies in tennis shoes...
 
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2012-04-04 Thread LauraM
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread LauraM
Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because 
they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.
 
As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture 
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I 
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. 
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to 
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over 
that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of 
cats.
 
Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't 
accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read:  
For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy 
it.



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