Spencer
Hi Nina, I am new to the group and recently lost two beautiful babies less than a week apart. I know how you feel when you say numb. I tried to work Tuesday but could not even think. I am left with 2 FeLV positive cats and 7 negative cats. Of course they will need re testing in 6 months. I feel guilty in that for my love of cats I probably brought this in the house when I adopted Lionel. He was a big old Tomcat. Not sure of his age. I immediately had him fixed and made him an indoor cat. He had some injuries from a fight with a raccoon. He had a broken leg which was healed. Also a bite wound that took a month to heal. I have a limited income and I do the best I can by getting the cats fixed at a spay neuter clinic. Long story short..5 of the cats had an upper respiratory infection. Two were taken to the vet and treated with antibiotics. All sick cats stayed inside along with junior and Lionel. All that were most exposed to Lionel got sicker. After Pumpkin died I took Junior back to the vet who tested him for FeLV and he was positive. It was a whirlwind to get the rest tested. Lionel tested positive for FeLV and FIV. With a heavy and guilty heart he had him euthanized. It is the hardest thing I have ever had to do. Tiny tested positive today for FELV . He is now in the house with me and Junior. I still have the two cats separate, because Junior is being treated for some unknown infection that had his temperature at 105.3. This is why they decided to test him. This is the plan of action. Keep cats separated. I think Tiny and Junior can be kept together. I am just waiting until Junior had finished his anibiotics. Get the 7 negative cats vaccinated for FeLV and other vaccines as well. Get Tiny and Junior vaccinated against the other major disease. Pray that 6 months from now the other cats are negative. Anything else major missing from this picture? Oh yes Junior is about 4 and Tiny is 5. They are half brothers. They do not like each other..lol Junior is Blind in one eye because he was hit by a car last March. He has been an inside cat since. Tiny is a major hunter. What can I do to keep him happy and entertained? Again my sympathies go out to you.. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 10/12/2006
Re: Spencer
Hi Yvonne Yes I know they do, and my dad is right there with them looking after them. Sally At 04:34 AM 10/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Dear Sally, I am so sorry about your loss of Pumpkin Lionel. They have some very wonderful company at the Rainbow Bridge. Yvonne No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 10/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 10/12/2006
Re: To Sally
At 06:42 AM 10/13/2006 -0700, you wrote: I am so sorry you lost your two babies and so close together. You must be reeling from the grief and dealing with the other kitties coming up positive. How are the rest of your group doing after the URI? Not sure what the URI stands for. Right now I came home to find one of my cats, Grey and White, up a tree. I guess someone's dog got loose. You were saying they were all exposed to Lionel and now Junior and Tiny have tested positive for FeLV. It sounds like the others were tested, but are negative at this point? YES Was Pumpkin positive as well? NO, he is the reason I took Junior back in as both had anemia. Pumpkin was also jaundiced. Pumpkins last two nights were spent at the vets office. HE was fine the night before perky looking like he would come home. Less than 12 hours later he crashed and had seizures. From what I read all could be symptons of FeLV. He did not even know me and was cold to the touch. I immediately got the vet to euthanize him. He was already gone, just a shell left behind. Lionel ( age unknown) and Pumpkin 1yr old were only with me 7 months. I still loved them very much. Tiny and Junior are half brothers caught from their feral mom. They are 5 and 4 respectively. Two very different kitties.. Tiny is very much the hunter. I will have to find things for him to do. Junior is well adapted to being an inside cat. Unfortunately for him it is what put him at risk. I am sure Lionel or Pumpkin may have been the source. Tiny did have a bite wound when I caught him to take him for testing. I hope he did not bite the other cat back. He is neutered but cats are territorial. I do not want to spread this around. I pray for all the cats here. Sally I'm new to FeLV. My Pippin tested positive at six weeks of age back in June. We're waiting at least 120 days until she is retested to see if she throws the virus. We were keeping her water, food and litter pan separate from other other three cats from day one (and vice versa). We knew right away that we could not give her up; she was part of our family, but it took awhile before we decided to mix our cats. We got our adult cats vaccinated and waited a few weeks to let the vaccine take hold before mixing them. Since the vaccine is not 100% effective, we know there is a chance that one or more of our kitties could turn up positive in the future. While we hope and pray this doesn't happen, we've gone into it knowing it could happen. But, we take it day to day and enjoy our time with them to the fullest. Our Pippin is healthy at this point and each day with her is a blessing, as well as with our other cats, Tigger, Taylor and Bob. Since Pippin is asymptomatic, we aren't treating her with any drugs at this point. We have her on 500 mg of L-Lysine daily (to boost her immune system) mixed with Innova brand wet food, plus she gets Innova Evo dry. Our other cats are on Authority brand wet food (Petsmart brand) which is the best we can do on our budget at this time. They were eating Friskies wet food, so the Authority is a step up. There is much wisdom, knowledge and experience on this list. You are in the right place :) Blessings to you and your kitties. Gina Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nina, I am new to the group and recently lost two beautiful babies less than a week apart. I know how you feel when you say numb. I tried to work Tuesday but could not even think. I am left with 2 FeLV positive cats and 7 negative cats. Of course they will need re testing in 6 months. I feel guilty in that for my love of cats I probably brought this in the house when I adopted Lionel. He was a big old Tomcat. Not sure of his age. I immediately had him fixed and made him an indoor cat. He had some injuries from a fight with a raccoon. He had a broken leg which was healed. Also a bite wound that took a month to heal. I have a limited income and I do the best I can by getting the cats fixed at a spay neuter clinic. Long story short..5 of the cats had an upper respiratory infection. Two were taken to the vet and treated with antibiotics. All sick cats stayed inside along with junior and Lionel. All that were most exposed to Lionel got sicker. After Pumpkin died I took Junior back to the vet who tested him for FeLV and he was positive. It was a whirlwind to get the rest tested. Lionel tested positive for FeLV and FIV. With a heavy and guilty heart he had him euthanized. It is the hardest thing I have ever had to do. Tiny tested positive today for FELV . He is now in the house with me and Junior. I still have the two cats separate, because Junior is being treated for some unknown infection that had his temperature at 105.3. This is why they decided to test him. This is the plan of action. Keep cats separated. I think Tiny and Junior can be kept together. I am just waiting until Junior had finished his anibiotics. Get the 7 negative cats vaccinated for FeLV and other vaccines as well. Get Tiny
Re: To Sally
Gina, Thanks for the information about URI. If my brain was working right now I probably would have figured that out. As it turns out all the cats that had the Upper respiratory infection have tested positive. I guess their immune systems were fighting too much. Lily had a sneeze or two but never a full blown cold. I just read the abstract regarding using low dose interferon for treatment of FIV and possibly FeLV. I know this was a small study group. Does anyone here have experience with this sort of treatment? More importantly Should all the cats get this drug? The other cats may be already fighting off the virus. I am very limited in funds. And have not yet figured out how I am going to handle the expense of treating and vaccinating the cats. I am still surprised the kitten is testing negative she is probably the most exposed cat to Lionel . They were best buddies. Although he is the only cat testing positive for FIV he may not have been the source of the FeLV. Tiny was the first with the URI. I know I will never know where it originated. OK next question. I could not get appointments for the cats until late November. I will probably be able to get them into the vet as a walk-in sooner. With 9 cats I can't take them all . Should I take the FeLV cats first or get the negative cats to get vaccinated? The cats are separated. For the most part the others are staying outside. Tiny and junior are in my bed room. Mainly to keep Tiny from darting outside which he already did yesterday. I managed to catch him right away, but he will get smart about that and I may not be so lucky the next time. The only medicine I have now is amoxycillin which is being used to treat whatever infection caused Junior's temperature to go so high. I also have Pumpkin's Baytril, so I am giving that to Tiny for his bite wound. I know it is overkill, but many years ago I lost a cat from a bite wound. The vet advised my dad when he was euthanized he had FeLV. He was 12 yrs old and I remember even after antibiotics his wound never healed. He stayed with me until the end. I am sure he had renal failure. I may have more questions. I need to check out the archives as well. Thanks for the help. Sally At 07:23 PM 10/13/2006 -0700, you wrote: Sally, A URI is an upper respitory infection. I wonder too if Pumpkin might have had FeLV; maybe a more experienced list member might have an idea? I'm very sorry that he left you so suddenly. It sounds as if there was no time for you to say goodbye. My heart goes out to you with all that you are dealing. Blessings, Gina Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:42 AM 10/13/2006 -0700, you wrote: I am so sorry you lost your two babies and so close together. You must be reeling from the grief and dealing with the other kitties coming up positive. How are the rest of your group doing after the URI? Not sure what the URI stands for. Right now I came home to find one of my cats, Grey and White, up a tree. I guess someone's dog got loose. -- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/474 - Release Date: 10/13/2006
Re: My Little Luna
Hi Kristina, I am so sorry and understand your dilemma. I still question the decision I made about one of my cats. I think you will know in your heart when the time is right. Bless you, Sally At 07:42 AM 10/15/2006 -0700, you wrote: Hi Everyone, It's been awhile since I have posted, but I've been keeping up. I have two FeLV cats and 2 that aren't. From information I have gathered here, I learned that I should isolate the non-FeLV cats ffom the positives. They've been mixed for almost two years now. I've also learned about different medications and which would be the best to give them. Unfortunately, one of my FeLV cats, Luna who's always been a tiny little thing, has recently become extremely lethargic. We took him into the vet on Friday and were told that the leukemia is now getting to him. He's so very anemic and he's become quite bony. We were told that he won't have long. Yet, he's very alert; his eyes aren't glossed over as you would expect a sick cat's to be. He's still interested in things going on around him, but just doesn't have the enregy to participate. It's so sad to watch. And it's breaking my heart. My daughter's too. My husband has been so helpful and supportive, but I still don't know what to do. He has so little energy, that he is having trouble making it to the litter box. I've picked him up to take him to it and two days in a row, out of the many times I have picked him up to do this, he has peed on me. He's most often going to the bathroom properly if I am able to place him there. It was just these two times. He also has so little energy, that he is not eating and drinking on his own. I have diluted canned food that is chopped fine and put it in a large syringe and have force fed him. He didn't like this, so I just put the food on my finger and he licks it off. So, at least he's still interested in food and going to the bathroom properly. I even took him back to the vet yesterday and they showed me how to insert an IV into him to keep him from being dehydrated and to keep fluids in him. I have asked them about a transfusion, but, then I feel this will just prolong the inevitable and we will all have to go through this again later.I can't see putting Luna through all this again later. I can't stand watching my daughter suffer. I also can't stand the pain this is putting me through. I am willing to do all sorts of things for my little Luna, but how much should I do? I wish he could talk so that he could tell me what he would like for me to do. Is he suffering, and if so, how much? Should I keep putting him through the IV's, feeding him the way I've been doing, and helping him go to the bathroom? It's hard on my family, specifically me who's tending to him, and I can only imagine what Luna is feeling. Can anybody advise me? I was so hoping I had longer than two years with this little fella. It just seems so unfair. Thank you all. Kristina No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 10/13/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 10/13/2006
Junior
Hi everyone This is a great group. I am waiting until I can see the vet this morning. Junior who tested positive for Felv 10/6/06 is now running a fever of 106.7. I am scared and I feel so helpless. I lost one cat less than two weeks ago. He crashed at the vet's office. He was never tested but I am sure this virus had something to do with it. My Nerves are shot. Please pray for junior. I do not know how the vet is with treating these FeLV cats. I was planning on seeing my usual vet but they weren't sure how soon they could see junior. I did not sleep well last night. as I knew he wasn't feeling well. I will let you know tonight. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
RE: Junior
Hi Diane and all Junior is home. He has a upper respiratory and was given a stronger antibiotic, subcutaneuos fluids and a b12 shot. I was also told to give him some yogurt as he has diarrhea. His fever had gone down a little it was 104. He ate when he got home and started purring. Now he is separated from tiny. I have to go to work to make sure I can take care of these kitties. I am still looking for help (financially) to get the though this . I live near Richmond VA. If anyone knows of any good cat groups to contact please let me know. Thanks Sally Davis At 09:07 AM 10/16/2006 -0500, you wrote: Sally, I'm sorry about your other kitty. And here are vibes that Junior gets better. Don't let the vet railroad you into anything with him. If the vet won't treat him just like they would a negative cat, leave. Here's hoping it will be okay. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Junior Hi everyone This is a great group. I am waiting until I can see the vet this morning. Junior who tested positive for Felv 10/6/06 is now running a fever of 106.7. I am scared and I feel so helpless. I lost one cat less than two weeks ago. He crashed at the vet's office. He was never tested but I am sure this virus had something to do with it. My Nerves are shot. Please pray for junior. I do not know how the vet is with treating these FeLV cats. I was planning on seeing my usual vet but they weren't sure how soon they could see junior. I did not sleep well last night. as I knew he wasn't feeling well. I will let you know tonight. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
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Hi, Everyday that goes by I am more confused. Junior went to the vet today. She treated him for the upper respiratory infection. I though all was good with the world. I called her this evening to let her know how junior was doing. I do think he is still running a temp, but I did not want to upset him anymore. She was preparing me to put him down maybe as soon as tomorrow. I know at least for this moment he is not ready to cross that bridge. I have separated him and Tiny. The other cats are still locked outside the bedrooms. And mostly stay outside for their own safety. I know this group is for the cats, but I am mentally, emotionally,and physically drained.I had reactive hypoglycemia this morning. I have ordered immuno-regulan on Kelly's advice. I now will have to talk the vet into giving it. I printed out the protocol for administering it. Does anyone out there know of vets in the Richmond VA area who may be willing to work with me. My usual vets office is extremely busy. I am too tired to think. Sally PS My server would not send this message last night. Junior seems better this morning. I don't believe he has a fever. I will not put him through that ordeal unless I think there is a problem. Junior and Tiny don;t like each other. They don't fight, but they do growl a lot at each other. For now I will keep them separate. The stress may have benn what precipitated this most recent cold. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
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Hi, Everyday that goes by I am more confused. Junior went to the vet today. She treated him for the upper respiratory infection. I though all was good with the world. I called her this evening to let her know how junior was doing. I do think he is still running a temp, but I did not want to upset him anymore. She was preparing me to put him down maybe as soon as tomorrow. I know at least for this moment he is not ready to cross that bridge. I have separated him and Tiny. The other cats are still locked outside the bedrooms. And mostly stay outside for their own safety. I know this group is for the cats, but I am mentally, emotionally,and physically drained.I had reactive hypoglycemia this morning. I have ordered immuno-regulan on Kelly's advice. I now will have to talk the vet into giving it. I printed out the protocol for administering it. Does anyone out there know of vets in the richmond VA area who may be willing to work with me. My usual vets office is extremely busy. I am too tired to think. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
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Hi, Everyday that goes by I am more confused. Junior went to the vet today. She treated him for the upper respiratory infection. I though all was good with the world. I called her this evening to let her know how junior was doing. I do think he is still running a temp, but I did not want to upset him anymore. She was preparing me to put him down maybe as soon as tomorrow. I know at least for this moment he is not ready to cross that bridge. I have separated him and Tiny. The other cats are still locked outside the bedrooms. And mostly stay outside for their own safety. I know this group is for the cats, but I am mentally, emotionally,and physically drained.I had reactive hypoglycemia this morning. I have ordered immuno-regulan on Kelly's advice. I now will have to talk the vet into giving it. I printed out the protocol for administering it. Does anyone out there know of vets in the richmond VA area who may be willing to work with me. My usual vets office is extremely busy. I am too tired to think. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
Re: Junior update
Little Black showed up this morning. I usually let her in long enough for her to get her fill without the other cats harassing her. The FeLV cats were closed up in the bedrooms. She ate in peace. As far as I know when I do see her she only eats once a day, but she gobbles up a lot of food during that time. Sally At 07:40 AM 10/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: Can you put Little Black's food in a plastic box or somewhere where the others can't get to him/it? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: Junior update HI everyone I think My server is sending mail again. All those emails were qued (sp) up and sent them at one sorry for the duplicates. Junior is still doing fine since his vet visit. He is asserting his self over Tiny. I try to separate them but this is a very small house and i hate keeping them totally couped up, because I am sure they think they are being punished. Tiny ran outside today. He loves the outdoors and could survive outside on his own if something happened to me. I did manage to catch him as he still is lovey-dovey to me. I tend to be a bit scattered and probably ADD. I forgot he was not in the bedroom when I opened the door to feed the other cats. I have l not seen Little Black for several days. She is semi wild and the other cats pick on her. Read, won't let her eat. I ordered the immuno-regulin and have not yet received it but I know I will have questions. Thanks for all the help. Junior did not survive getting hit by a car just to have this get him. I have not read emails this morning. I hope Leslie got her other cat back by now. I lost a cat two years ago and much as I searched and asked around never found him..he was such a funny cat. I still miss him. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
Re: Junior
Hi Michelle It, immuno-regulin, came in the mail today. Problem is the vet who saw Junior, thinks it is time to put him down. He is much better today. He still has the sniffles. I need to find someone to do the injections. I just searched the archives about doing subcutaneous injections. I could probably do these, but I did not order any needles. I will try to stop by the other vets office tomorrow to see what they can do. They are just so busy that their appointment schedule is booked 6 weeks ahead. However they did do the emergency testing of the 9 cats after Junior tested positive. Funny thing is I think this post was made today. How timely for me. Junior is so sweet. Today he is playful. He has some more living to do. Sally At 05:49 PM 10/19/2006 -0400, you wrote: I just read this post. Definitely try Immuno-Regulin. Michelle In a message dated 10/16/2006 8:29:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone This is a great group. I am waiting until I can see the vet this morning. Junior who tested positive for Felv 10/6/06 is now running a fever of 106.7. I am scared and I feel so helpless. I lost one cat less than two weeks ago. He crashed at the vet's office. He was never tested but I am sure this virus had something to do with it. My Nerves are shot. Please pray for junior. I do not know how the vet is with treating these FeLV cats. I was planning on seeing my usual vet but they weren't sure how soon they could see junior. I did not sleep well last night. as I knew he wasn't feeling well. I will let you know tonight. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
The other cats
Hello, Junior and Tiny are still doing OK. Tiny desperately wants to go outside, but he can't. Hopefully he will adjust as well as Junior did, when Junior became an inside cat. Funny thing is the fact that Junior became an inside cat probably increased his exposure to FeLV. Tiny was also kept inside during his bout of upper respiratory the summer. Although I don't know the source of the infection . All the cats come in to eat from time to time. I miss Lionel and Pumpkin. I planted some pansies by their graves. Now for the other cats I feel that I am neglectful, because I am paying close attention to Junior and Tiny and hardly seeing the other cats. The other cats have been staying outside. Maybe they don't really care. Close call for outside cats... Last night around 4AM I heard a strange noise. I thought it was in the house, but as I got closer to the Kitchen, I realized it was on the back deck. A strange distressful call. So I peek out the door and I see what I think is a big dog attacking what I assumed was Spike. She hangs out in the back deck because the other cats pick on her. I do not have my glasses on and I fumble to get the key in the lock to open the door. By the time I started to open the door I see the raccoon. I still assume it was attacking Spike. I have to feed the other cats outside and occasionally I see a opossum or raccoon. The raccoon left the porch, and I see Spike on the steps. She would not come in so I could not tell if she was hurt, but it did not look like it. Then I saw the second raccoon on the rail. It too meandered off as if nothing had happened. I go out on the deck and see not fur or blood. It was starting to rain. I worried all night that to raccoon maybe got one of the cats. I did not get much sleep. This put my schedule off and I was not able to go by the vets office to see bout getting the immuno-regulin injections for Junior and Tiny. I have to work tomorrow and Sunday I have to drive to DC to pick up Eric at the airport. This will be a 6 hour round trip drive. I hope Juniors antibiotics continue to help his URI . I don't know how y'all deal with this. I cannot depend on Eric to call the vet and set things up. It all falls on me. Even though Junior is really his cat! Anyway, how do those of you who have other cats make sure the other kitties are not feeling neglected. It will be cold soon. They will be (crossing Fingers) vaccinated next Friday, I know i will need to wait two weeks, but I hope to be able to mix them after that. There are 9 cats altogether. I will still do my best to keep Tiny and Junior apart from them. Thanks for the support of this great group. Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
Tiny
Hi Maybe I spoke too soon. When I brought Tiny in after he tested + for FelV I knew he had a bite wound, from what I assumed was a scuffle with a cat. I have cleaned it and kept an eye on it. It was healing pretty nicely. After I sent the last post I noticed what looked like blood on his other cheek. Well it appears he must have been bitten more than once. There are three tiny holes and a bloody fluid is coming out of it. I cleaned it with peroxide. Does this sound like a cat bite? it looks a little odd to me. Also I read somewhere, can't remember where that I could give the cats pediatric vitamins, I bought Poly Vi Sol with iron, but I am not sure the dosage. I can't seem to find where I read this. Does anyone know? Thanks Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
update
Today I got 6 of my FeLV neg cats vacinated. I have one more to go she is semi-wild and I do not see her everyday. It looks like my regular vet is willing to work with me on Junior and Tiny. I am trying to work out times to get the Immuno-regulin injections done. Especially for Junior as he is still fighting the upper respiratory infection. I feel a lot better about the situation than I did two weeks ago. I am a realist and I know there will be ups and downs. For now the Crisis is over. I have kept Junior and Tiny together. Even though they do not get along. I have no choice. Junior's cold is better but he still sneezes occasionally. I out a bird feeder up for tiny. He was so much an outdoor loving cat. I hope this will entertain him. Eventually I hope to get the room more cat friendly. It is a money thing. Thanks Nina, Kelly, Wendy and evreyone else who has supported me through this. I will keep you updated, Sally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.13/500 - Release Date: 10/26/2006
Re: I'm sad again.... :( Belinda can you add Jake to CLS
Terrie My heart goes out to you. I lost three cats this year. Two a week apart. It is never easy. I cried as I read this. I decided no more cats until the FeLV group is gone, but someone had different ideas. A week ago when I was taking 6 of the negative cats to be vaccinated I find a very skinny kitty eating on my front porch. He did not leave. He is neutered, so he must have belonged to someone at sometime. As he is still here. I took him to the vet yesterday with the remaining cat and got him checked out. He too was negative and now vaccinated. Junior and Tiny also got their immuno-regulin shots yesterday. The vet told me he had a client whose cat tested positive for FeLV and was re tested every two years always positive. The cat lived 12 more years. I can only hope TIny may be as lucky. He has no symptoms and was a weak positive. Junior has given me some scares with anemia and a high temp, but he has been good for 3 weeks. sally At 08:51 PM 11/3/2006 -0500, you wrote: Terrie, I am so sorry! You have been through so much. He did live a good life with you and I know you made a difference to him and all the babies you care for. Love and hugs to you, elizabeth In a message dated 11/3/2006 5:13:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I had to put my 17 1/2 yr old Siamese to sleep today. My daughter called me and said that she thought Jake may have to go to the Vet. He wasn't acting right. He kept falling down and throwing up. I called them and got him right in. He was going into cardiac arrest and liver failure. He was crying which he never does. I took him to my regular Vets I knew he would suffer if I hung on to him. They said he live a good life with me. That at this point there wasn't anything they could do for him. He started having problems back in August with his health. He was lying on his side and breathing hard when I came home today. He smelled foul. Then he starting throwing up and his bowels were releasing. He was quite the gentle man. I let him go with dignity. Bless his soul he will be met by Dukee at the bridge Belinda can you add Jake to the CLS...thanks! Boy, this is getting tough on me. I'm trying real hard. My husband doesn't know yet. 3 cats in less than a month. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ~St. Francis No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/511 - Release Date: 11/1/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.27/517 - Release Date: 11/3/2006
Re: SOS - you are not going to believe this - now my little Olive has FIP (?)
Dear Hideyo You are a kind hearted sensitive caring person. I have not been on this group long to know the full story about how the ferals came to be in your care. I do know you have loved and cared for them which is something they would not have in the wild. I don't know the exact stats but a feral cats lifespan is very short indeed. Not usually a good outcome. Hindsight is always better than foresight, please do not blame yourself.. You are in no way to responsible for this outcome. YOU ARE A WONDERFUL PERSON!!! Many years ago I had a cat who I was told died of something called peritonitis. We lived on a farm at that time he was a big tabby and white tom cat. I was away at college when all this transpired. MY parents took him to the vet who said there really wasn't much he could do this was some 30 years ago. He put the cat on antibiotics and the cat ate but I understand continued to lose weight. My parents were waiting for me to come home before doing anything with him. Unfortunately as cats will do he went off and I never saw him again. The more we are exposed to the felines we love the more likely we may encounter these problems. Am i going to quit having cats because of my two FELV positive babies, NO WAY. Hugs Sally At 11:46 PM 11/4/2006 -0700, you wrote: Hi, everyone I just cremated my little Dharma this morning --- before I had a chance to sit down and think of all the memories of my little special Dharma ---and before I had a chance to cry my little feral kitty, Olive now has FIP... and I just found it out..and I am just devasted all over again. Olive is my feral kitty who is now about a year old and who came from the same colony as Dharma and Naomi. Since she is a feral kitty, I really did not know how sick she was and it's my fault not paying attention to her more..she had a seizure tonght -- and I held her and noticed that she had lost lots of weight and very dehydrated.. and she must be very weak as she let me hold her.. I gave her 250 ml of subQ fluid as she was extremely dehydrated and hot -- and I ran to the emergency clinic after that..and asked them to run a blood work---I was so praying that it's not FIP -- then, I waited and finally talk to the doctor regarding blood work and it was very similar to Peter's blood work --the doctor did not know exactly what it was-- she said either cancer or FIP...her gloublin is elevated and alubmin is decreased, her total bilrbrin is elevated.. and mos of the liver (ALT and AST) were very elevated. .she was not anemic (PCV=31) -- she thought I really coudln't treat her since she was feral and suggest euthanaisa.. but I said no.. I want to bring her home and try everything I can.. she just was walking around and eating until earlier today...so I brought her home as I knew she would be better off coming home as there wasnt' anything they could do for her specifically. I held her for a long time.. she is just very sweet.. I did not know ir I coule syringe feed her,, but she let me and she ate very well.. she is just very sweet little gir.. she is black/white taxido girl... sthe bad new is since then, she had three more seizures.. I really did not want to give her valium as she already has liver issue.. but I coudln't let her keep having a seizure so I gave a little bit of valium to see if it will help not to have seizure anymore.. Everyone.. I am now convinced that I am the one who is producing this disease fo rmy kitties -- I know that FIP is stress induced disease.. and all of the kitties who have had FIP were not corona virus posivite kitties and the become exposed due to all my others who have been.. and all of the kitties who have had FIP have been here less than year.. and my envrinment has caused them to die -- Dr. Ishidaalso mentioned something similar when I first explained how many kitties I have had FIP -- as much as he admired what I do. .he thought that I was causing FIP among my cats.. and I have to agree -- it's too much of price to pay and they did not deserve to die.. I had a good intension but it was not good enough and I am very responsible of all the deaths so I really am not any kind of hero.. if I did not bring them home,, they would not have gotten FIP ...I don't regret that the fact thatI had an opportunity to have met them.. but had no right to bring my house which is considered to be a very high risk for FIP .. they did not ask for that... Everyone, please pray and send a good positive healinng energy to my little Olive.. I started on FOI tonight and am hoping that it will make her feel better - again I have not given up regardlesss of whatever the disease might be.. I still belive in power of intensions and miracle if that's what it takes.. I juar have to be calm and sending her a good thought.. again thank you very much for all your support and I am sorry for asking for more prayers before I had a chance to thank you for all
Re: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
Hi Gina I am going out on a limb with this answer, but generally a cat will not go into heat at this time of year bc the kittens would be born in the winter. I have safely waited until January no later than early February to spay kittens that were born the previous spring. They did not go into heat before the spaying. If you are concerned though I would schedule her appointment at your earliest convenience. Hope this helps...sally At 11:10 AM 11/9/2006 -0800, you wrote: I just read the article! Now I am concerned that I waited too long to have her spayed. She will be 7 months on November 25th and I assume she could go into heat at any time :( Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG I have to DISAGREE. read this months cat fancy spay before the first heat reduces the risk of some cancers by 91 % Some studies also show the heat is more stressful than the spay Inderstand if you lose one its harder but I am over 1000 now and only lost one in all this time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- even to a year ideally â again I am very conservatives when coming to these things, so others may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to spaying surgery, and knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could trigger certain underlying illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune system are as matured as it can be.. There is really nothing so bad to their body if they go on heat once â it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not do any damage to their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle is much much less than stress go through form the surgery.. -- I would personally recommend that you wait to spay her for a little longer â I donât know how long she is.. but unless itâs absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant already), I really need to ask you to wait for a several different reasons.. especially, now she is tested negative for the test. â and if you still go ahead and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to give it to you so the stress is reduced.. Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and FIV. We waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test and the IFA. The vet says she feels confident in the results for several reasons: because Pippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test and she was a faint positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we waited for 5 months to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had gone to the bone marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. Should we be celebrating?! :) At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be spayed. She will be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the spay and pain medication. Is there anything else I should ask for? I recall something about a certain anesthetic that is preferable. What is the name of it? After the spay what can I do to make her more comfortable? She tends to be hyper-active (as kittens are! lol) so I was thinking of having her stay in our room for the first day or so, so she won't run around the house in her usual 120 mph fashion. Or would it be better for her to stay in her crate? Any suggestions would be appreciated :) Thank you! Gina Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Visit my http://tiggerwiggins.com/Tigger Tales site! http://www.zazzle.com/tiggerwiggins*See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -- http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2FnewaolCheck out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Visit my http://tiggerwiggins.com/Tigger Tales site! http://www.zazzle.com/tiggerwiggins*See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Want to start your own business? Learn how on http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=41244/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-indexYahoo! Small Business. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006
Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed
Thirty some years ago a skunk let loose under our house. The whole house reeked and I was home from college but had to get away until it aired out. Anyway, my mom was a teacher then and went to school apparently the smell had permeated her purse. Talk about embarrassing...yep she stunk! There are worse things than cat pee. Sally At 01:51 PM 11/9/2006 -0800, you wrote: Kelly, don't be to embarrassed...Hey, it happens. Remember too...once you LIVE with a particular odor, you cease to smell it. It always amazes me how smokers can't tell how badly they reak. (Sorry folks, if there are any on the list...but to non-smokers who aren't used to the odor, after you've just finished a cig...the scent carried on your clothes hair as you come back into a building...pretty bad...and some brands of cigs are more ...potent... than others. Doesn't mean we don't love you tho! ;-) It's the same with people who use too much perfume, or drink excessive amounts of coffee (dragon breath). Tips: 1) pick up a small battery operated black light, approx. $30 at Pet Smart and on many animal product websites. Before you leave in the morning, run it over your clothes, purse and shoes...it'll show you if there are bodily fluids on you. (run it on the car seats as well, incase you transfered any moist fluids to the car by accident one day. 2) Keep a bottle of Fabreeze or the generic brand of the same thing in your car and spray yourself down when you get into the car or before you walk into the building. It'll help. Also, to some people, certain fragrances can registar as having a cat pee smell. I worked with a wonderful lady who bathed in and sprayed on a peach-scent...it was VERY overpowering...and with her body chemistry ...it DID smell exactly like cat urine. And she didn't HAVE a cat. Sorry if I've offended anyone...wasn't my intention..AND, I'm certain I've carried an awful aroma to work a time or two myselfcan't tell you how many times I've toed cat-hack while putting on dress shoes in the morning...Coebeio likes to hide it in the toes of my shoes...then didn't have time to change stockings (or stockings to change into) and just wiped everything without throughly CLEANING everything because I was running late. Stinkyfeet takes on a whole new meaning. Hang in there. T Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My supervisor just called me in for a meeting and apparently people have been complaining that I smell like cat urine. I do have some sprayers. I wash my clothes with Oxyclean and I bathe every day, of course. I have only smelled cat urine on myself once and then I was aware of it. Could I smell bad and not know it? -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006
Re: Prayers needed for Gus and Evander
I will add my prayers as well. Sally At 08:30 PM 11/9/2006 -0800, you wrote: Hi ,I was hoping for some prayers and good thought for these 2 great guys.They are not doing so well and are at the clinic.Thank you all so much. Sherry Cheap Talk? http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.comCheck out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006
Junior
Hi all I am back from my trip. Our old email is still not working. I am playing catchup on emails, so i have not yet read any of the archives. Eric was able to get junior to the vet for his eye meds both wednesday and today. He only missed one dose od the Trusopt, glaucoma medicine yesterday. Other than the eye problem which is serious enough Junior seems in pretty good condition. Since he is not seeing well. His litter box is back in my room. I got him back in lysine today. I cannot get Eric to give him medicine. Also I have to pound it into a powder and I add it to his food. Next time I buy it I wil get the capsules. I took sone to for a small cold sore I sometimes get, It did clear up faster than normal. Thanks Nina Kerry and Phaewyrn for all your suggestions and help. Sally Davis
Fwd: test/junior/ferals
Sorry about the test email. I sent one last night from my new address and I don't see that it posted. I am getting emails. Just in case my previous email does not show up. Junior got his meds while I was away at the vet's office. I hated to subject him to the ride 2 days in a row, and Eric almost fell with the cat in his carrier. Eric would not have been able to get up if he had fallen. I never thought about thsi until I saw the posting in the archives about the cats being left at the horse boarding place. Maybe someone can help my sister who is disabled and lives in Manteca, CA. Apparently in these rural bedroom type communities the is no help for feral kitties. At least not that she or I have been able to come up with. SHe is aslo not in a position to trap them, There are no clincis or shelter that we can find who do not euthanize cats. SHe had a colony, not sure how big living under a shed in her back yard. SHe does feed them, bit that is all she can do for them due to her health. Anyone out there in CA who might have ideas. Too many cats too few people who can help. Thanks Sally
Re: test/junior/ferals
HI Phaewryn, I don't think my sister has email. I did not see a phone number on their website. Am I missing it? Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She needs to contact alley cat allies: http://alleycat.org Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
question
I tend to notice weird stuff. Junior's ears become real thick feeling, and are even shaped funny. I think this happens when he runs a fever, which I am sure is every night. Did anyone else notice this phenomenom? Also are fevers a big concern? I asked my vet about it and it did not seem to be a big concern for her. He eats and except for the eye problem seems to do ok at this time. I will call my sister requarding the Alley cats web site. I am sure she does not have internet at this time. She has been on disability for some time and her money is limited. Thanks for the information Phaewryn. Sally Davis
Re: question
Michelle To be honest I don't like to take his temp because it does not need the added stress. I know that cat's normal temps are much higher than ours his has been as high as 106.5. That was the day I got the bad news of his FeLV status. It has been that high since then as well. His ears are not always swollen up like this but when they are swollen they are also very warm. Yes maybe it is from being curled up. I just talked with my sister. She just got internet turned on yesterday. I emailed her the link for the cats. She thinks some of the cats are actually neighbors cats. I will try to take junior's temp again to see if it is a fever. First it is time for his glaucoma medicine. Thanks Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know for sure he has a fever-- are you taking his temp? If so, what does it run? If you are going by how warm he feels, they can feel pretty warm when they have been curled up sleeping. Their normal temp is so much higher than ours that they usually feel warmer than us. Michelle In a message dated 1/12/2007 8:07:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tend to notice weird stuff. Junior's ears become real thick feeling, and are even shaped funny. I think this happens when he runs a fever, which I am sure is every night. Did anyone else notice this phenomenom? Also are fevers a big concern? I asked my vet about it and it did not seem to be a big concern for her. He eats and except for the eye problem seems to do ok at this time. I will call my sister requarding the Alley cats web site. I am sure she does not have internet at this time. She has been on disability for some time and her money is limited. Thanks for the information Phaewryn. Sally Davis
Re: question
no to any new drugs. Maybe his ears are thicker, but they seem mishapened as well. He does not get any ear drops. I will watch to see what it does. It is really more weird than a concern. Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never heard of ears swelling due to fever, though an allergic reaction could very well cause both to happen as a result of the allergy. Are you giving him any new ear drops, or using transdermal medicines on his ears? One of my cats has heavier cartilage in his ears than all the others cats I have ever known, they are very thick and very stiff. But they stay that way, it doesn't come and go. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: test/junior/ferals
Wow I must have missed the phone number, I think I even went to the contact page, maybe not. I live about three hours from where Alley Cat allies is headquartered. Of course my sister lives about 2500 miles from there. Again thanks Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do have a very big website. The contact info is on this page, and I pasted it in below as well. http://alleycat.org/contact.html Alley Cat Allies 7920 Norfolk Avenue Suite 600 Bethesda, MD 20814-2525 Phone*:* 240-482-1980 Fax: 240-482-1990 ACA office hours are between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. When leaving a message on our voicemail be sure to include your name, street address, and your daytime and evening phone numbers. To contact us via e-mail please fill out our E-mail Formhttp://alleycat.org/response.html. Here you will have an opportunity to provide us all the relevant information we need to help you quickly and accurately. Thank you. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: question
Yes he is on the immuno regulin but only at a maintenace schedule. I don't think he is due back for a couple months. He has been through the protocol. So had Tiny. Tiny never had any visible symptoms of FeLV. (He tested a weak positive.) That is why his death was so unexpected. I think he died of some unrelated problem. He may have had all his life but was nver diagnosed. Maybe a reason for me to feel guilt over his death. I even asked the vet who saw him last summer about his cough and could it be this or that. At the time he had a BAD URI so that was the concern. Of course two months later I am dealing with the death of another cat and 3 cats Felv positive. It was not a good year. I would like to give Junior some quality time. thanks Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably know by feel then. But you might want to take his temp once while he is like that so you have a number to go with the way he feels to you. for fevers I would suggest Immuno-regulin, but I think he is already on that, right? Michelle In a message dated 1/12/2007 8:39:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To be honest I don't like to take his temp because it does not need the added stress. I know that cat's normal temps are much higher than ours his has been as high as 106.5.
Re: question
I have considered doing just that. I don;t have any syringes what ones do you use and where do you get them. I think I read somewhere that you are more likely to get a site reaction on subcutaneus injections. I would think since they have already gooten the injections IV this would be less likely to happen. I am thinking the thisk ears may be hematomas. He does not have any symptoms that his ears bother him. He doesn;t scratch and there are no apparents mites. It might be an ear infection. I do have trasaderm from an earlier infection B4 the Felv diagnosis. I may start using it to see if it helps. Only thing is it adds one more torture to his routine. How can you not stress a cat and treat him too? I did get a pill crusher for his lysine tablets. Eric did not like me using a hammer. I was fine with that. The other thing with the ears are they always seem bright red. Is that a symptom I need to be worried about? Thanks for all the information. Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have started giving my positives I-R subcutaneously to deal with URI's. I started this a few days ago when they both started showing symptoms. It seems to help. I was nervous about it at first, but a couple people on this list give it sub-q at home, and my vet said that if it can be given IV then it won't hurt to give it sub-q, it just might not be as effective. So far it seems to be working, knock on wood. If he hasn't gotten it for a while and he is in fact running a fever, you might want to put him back on it for a bit. Michelle In a message dated 1/12/2007 8:52:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes he is on the immuno regulin but only at a maintenace schedule. I don't think he is due back for a couple months. He has been through the protocol. So had Tiny. Tiny never had any visible symptoms of FeLV. (He tested a weak positive.) That is why his death was so unexpected. I think he died of some unrelated problem. He may have had all his life but was nver diagnosed. Maybe a reason for me to feel guilt over his death. I even asked the vet who saw him last summer about his cough and could it be this or that. At the time he had a BAD URI so that was the concern. Of course two months later I am dealing with the death of another cat and 3 cats Felv positive. It was not a good year. I would like to give Junior some quality time. thanks Sally
Re: Angel Morgana
Kelley I am so very sorry. It is always so hard but when it happens so suddenly.Allwe can do is wonder. It sounds like you loved her very much and took great care of her. Sally On 1/15/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an hour ago. I noticed something was not right about the way she was lying and picked her up and she was doing that awful head lolling thing and panting. I stuck her in a crate and drove as fast as I could to the emergency hospital but she passed before I could get there. I gaev her her meds earlier and I wonder if she had a bad reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin. I feel like there was something I could have done to stop it. My poor little girl was only 3. She is a white persian with big beautiful eyes. She is a tiny girl, just 5.25 pounds. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Junior
I am taking Junior to the Vet tomorrow. His right eye still has glaucoma, you can see it bulge and the cataract that is forming. He did not eat well today. Just in case the vet is agreeable how do I get her to write the prescription for alferon(Kelly)? Also I looked in the Archives and I am not sure it answered my question, but for any of you who have used Transfer Factor, do you think it helps? He still has the thick ears which are very red. I will ask about that as well. Thanks for you help. Sally Davis -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Junior
Thanks for the information. At times I think Junior has done well and at times I am not so sure. Seeing how fast Pumpkin and Tiny died I treasure the moments I have with Junior. Oh Yes and with all this going on with my cats. I did not get Daisy fixed in November like I had planned to do. I use a low cost spay neuter clinic here in Richmond, Va. I called last week for an appt, but missed the call as I was away when They returned my call. I called again this week. Well they are extremely busy so her appt is not until Feb 27. She is coming in heat. And will probably come in heat again b4 2/27/07. Is there anything out there that will calm her down? Sally On 1/18/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:38 PM 1/18/2007, you wrote: Just have her call the Pharmacy and ask for the ALFERON. They all know what is needed. I would ask for at least 2 bottles to start, That is about 4 months worth, The phone number is 559 439 1190 or she can write a script for 2 bottles of Alferon,,anyway the pharmacist know how to take care of it,,,Tell 'em it is the Cat Alferon,,,They know Kelly I am taking Junior to the Vet tomorrow. His right eye still has glaucoma, you can see it bulge and the cataract that is forming. He did not eat well today. Just in case the vet is agreeable how do I get her to write the prescription for alferon(Kelly)? Also I looked in the Archives and I am not sure it answered my question, but for any of you who have used Transfer Factor, do you think it helps? He still has the thick ears which are very red. I will ask about that as well. Thanks for you help. Sally Davis -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Junior
The eye with glaucoma is the bad eye. I can't see that the medicine helps except for temporarily. If he has to stay on it then it would make sense to remove the eye. I will find out about the ears he does ha a swelling behin his ears. I am hoping is just infection. Sally On 1/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: his good eye Sally? or is this his bad eye? Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
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Hi Junior went to the vet this morning. Hie was given a shot of depomedrol. The vet said it would either make things better or worse. The next option is removing the eye. The thing with his ears is inflammation. No infection there thank goodness. I asked about the interferon, but no luck there.I will wait and see what the steriods do for him. As for the Transfer factor, yes it is supposed to be a immune booster and it is expensive, which is why I would like feedback as to effectiveness. I realize every case is different. Such as the thing with juniors ears It seems that noone here has seen this problem. I will get the the bill information too. thanks Sally On 1/18/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sally, Haven't ever used transfer factor and haven't heard of plus formula. I do some people on the feline lymphoma cancer group have used the transfer factor with good results. I know it's expensive, what were you hoping it would do, it's an immune booster isn't it? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Junior's ear
I am hoping Junior's eye starts to improve after his shot today. His ear is now curling back where it is deflating from the swelling. He looks very funny. Hopefully by tomorrow the ears will be back to normal. He seems to feel a bit better. He ate well and slept a good part of the day. We shall see if this helps him. Sally -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Junior's ear
Junior feels a little better today. The swelling in his ear has gone down. Now his ears curl back. Very funny looking. I am hoping to see improvement in the eyes. The redness is better, but you can still see they are not right. By reducing the inflammation, hopfully it will alllow the antibiotic to clear the infection. My though on the subject. Thabks for asking. Sally Davis On 1/19/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so glad Junior is feeling a wee bit better - hoping so much this helps him. elizabeth On 1/19/07, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am hoping Junior's eye starts to improve after his shot today. His ear is now curling back where it is deflating from the swelling. He looks very funny. Hopefully by tomorrow the ears will be back to normal. He seems to feel a bit better. He ate well and slept a good part of the day. We shall see if this helps him. Sally -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: internist thinks Lucy has FIP
Hi Michelle My prayers are with you for your sweet Lucy. I had a cat many years ago die supposedly of FIP in the early seventies. He was a wonderful tabby and white cat named Bud. He died while I was away at school. My parents were waiting for me to come home that weekend so I could see him. He went off that same week. Although the diagnosis was a guess based on symptomolgy. I do know antibiotics did not help him. It is a shame after all these years there is still not much they can do. Prayer can work miracles and I am an example of that. I am fully recovered from an autoimmune disease I had in the mid 70's called dermatomyositis. I find out 22 years after I was first diagnosed that most people with this disease stay on medication all their lives. I was able to wean myself off the prednisone in 4 years. I honestly though my result was normal. I find out that maybe 5% recover to the extent that I did.This disease almost killed me. The treatment for the disease today is basically the same as 30 years ago. I am in remission according to the doctors at NIH. I will pray for you to have strength as well. Love Sally On 1/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the internist thinks Lucy has FIP. Despite the abdominal effusion, she thinks it is dry FIP because the fluid does not look like FIP fluid, and that the fluid is resulting from the effects of FIP on other organs. She thinks it's FIP because of something that was found in the biopsy of the lymph node, I can't remember what it is called but something like granular something, or granulitis, or granuloma, which goes with FIP and not with most other kinds of inflammation. Other possibilities are infection somewhere, the effects of her IBD inflammation, or pancreatitis, but she said that the lymph node being the way it is normally goes only with FIP so she really thinks it is that. I am of course very distressed by this. She said she could do exploratory surgery to diagnose better, but I do not see the point since FIP is not treatable. I want instead to try to treat for the other things it could be. So a broad spectrum antibiotic with anearobic properties (she said clavamox or clindamycin-- any ideas which i should do, I have both?). And up her steroids for IBD/pancreatitis. And perhaps switch her diet to a novel protein diet if there is one that would also be ok for pancreatitis. And she is on feline interferon and I would like to get acemannan, and then monitor her HCT and if it goes too low try epogen. any thoughts? Has anyone actually had an internist, rather than a primary care vet, say FIP when it was not? distressed, michelle -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Junior's ear
He looks like an old tom cat i had many years ago. I am ok with juniors ears curled as long as his health holds out. Sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes hematomas can leave ears permanently deformed... but that's ok, that just adds character! See: http://ucat.us/Tom.jpg http://ucat.us/Tom2.jpg Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Junior
he still has infection in that eye but it does seem less inflammed. right noe he is very cautious moving about. he gas been hoging my pillow tonight...lol sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So his good eye is doing OK for now then? That's very good. Yeah, I would remove the bad eye, he would be much happier with it gone. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
winter day, home with the cats
Today has been a miserable day here in VA. Freezing rain and sleet brought me home early from work. This gave me time to spend with Junior and my other cats. Junior seems to feel better. His ears are almost normal looking. I am not sure what cause the hematomas because he did not shake his head or paw at them. Of course he is still egtting medicine for his eyes. He vision is very limited in his good eye. It is still dilated from the infection. He is eating better although I am enticing him with anything he will eat. He gets Lysine in baby food. My thoughts about Tiny. Tiny always has a cough throughout his short life. Not a bad cough and not even every day. Just sometimes he would cough after purring. When he was a kitten he did have a URI and his sinuses smelled terrible. He thew this off on his own. I had suspected he had heartworms even though not real common in cats I live on a lake in mosquito infested woods. I asked the vet he saw last summer if this was a possibility and though she did not test for it gave him revolution. At that time he had a bad URI which the cough was very severe, just like the one he had the day he died, but instead of dying he just coughed spastically. It knocked him off his feet. It would explain his sudden death. He did test a faint positive on the snap test but never really had symptoms nor did he catch Junior's last URI. Right now Daisy is crying out pitifully. In the mist of my Feline Luekemia crisis last fall, I had to put off her spaying. I advised the shelter I got her from of what was going on so they did not bug me for the papers. ITwo weeks ago I called a low cost clinic to schedule her spaying and they called back. Ususally you get an appointment in a week or two, this time it was over a month. So Now I have to wait until Feb. 27 to get her fixed in the meantime, she is coming in heat. What a royal pain. I have always gotten my females fixed before their first heat. OK the waether is making me think too much. Thanks everyone for your support. This is the best group. Sally, Junior, Daisy, Grey and White, Spike, Lily, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Silver, Speedy -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: winter day, home with the cats
I spent the whole afternoon with Junior. First I took a nap. I have not been sleeping to well lately. Junior sees a little bit. I took him out of my bedroom into the living room. He managed to find the scratching post and he had a grand time with that. You should see the door frame to my bedroom. The is no room for a scratching post in the hallway. Missing work is the pits, because I am an hourly employee, I have less than 2 days vacation to last until march, and I think there is another systm on it's way. Here's crossing my fingers that doesn't happen. Good news is we still have power. I started the generator yesterday to make sure it would start. Eric is disabled and cannot do those tyes of things. I hope everyone is safe and warm. Sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry the weather is bad and you're missing work because of it! It's pretty cold here, and our heater keeps going out. The landlord seems reluctant to fix it or have it replaced. I keep having this nagging feeling that I am forgetting something important, I can't figure out why. It's weird. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: winter day, home with the cats
Well the trim is already ruined, but I do need to break him and the other cats from using that spot. They also tear up the carpet there as well. Sallu On 1/21/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re the scratching post: Can you fasten one to the wall like a picture? I've seen some type of frame covered in whatever you want the cat to scratch then literally secured (firmly please) to the wall. I hope you don't lose any more work. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:26 PM *Subject:* Re: winter day, home with the cats I spent the whole afternoon with Junior. First I took a nap. I have not been sleeping to well lately. Junior sees a little bit. I took him out of my bedroom into the living room. He managed to find the scratching post and he had a grand time with that. You should see the door frame to my bedroom. The is no room for a scratching post in the hallway. Missing work is the pits, because I am an hourly employee, I have less than 2 days vacation to last until march, and I think there is another systm on it's way. Here's crossing my fingers that doesn't happen. Good news is we still have power. I started the generator yesterday to make sure it would start. Eric is disabled and cannot do those tyes of things. I hope everyone is safe and warm. Sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry the weather is bad and you're missing work because of it! It's pretty cold here, and our heater keeps going out. The landlord seems reluctant to fix it or have it replaced. I keep having this nagging feeling that I am forgetting something important, I can't figure out why. It's weird. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: winter day, home with the cats
I will give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion Sally On 1/21/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:41 PM 1/21/2007, you wrote: Just a few pieces of carpet remnant nailed up on the wall and some cat nip spray,, Kelly Well the trim is already ruined, but I do need to break him and the other cats from using that spot. They also tear up the carpet there as well. Sallu On 1/21/07, *Marylyn* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re the scratching post: Can you fasten one to the wall like a picture? I've seen some type of frame covered in whatever you want the cat to scratch then literally secured (firmly please) to the wall. I hope you don't lose any more work. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: winter day, home with the cats I spent the whole afternoon with Junior. First I took a nap. I have not been sleeping to well lately. Junior sees a little bit. I took him out of my bedroom into the living room. He managed to find the scratching post and he had a grand time with that. You should see the door frame to my bedroom. The is no room for a scratching post in the hallway. Missing work is the pits, because I am an hourly employee, I have less than 2 days vacation to last until march, and I think there is another systm on it's way. Here's crossing my fingers that doesn't happen. Good news is we still have power. I started the generator yesterday to make sure it would start. Eric is disabled and cannot do those tyes of things. I hope everyone is safe and warm. Sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry the weather is bad and you're missing work because of it! It's pretty cold here, and our heater keeps going out. The landlord seems reluctant to fix it or have it replaced. I keep having this nagging feeling that I am forgetting something important, I can't figure out why. It's weird. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/2007 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: winter day, home with the cats
I used to have one of those, it always twisted around. I will check out the links below thanks...sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's cold here, but the heat is staying on so far since we relit it last time. It's 2 degrees out now, according to my porch thermometer. They make flat cat scratching pads you can hang on a doorknob. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=16097N=2002+113122 http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.aspx?familyid=100604 http://www.felinefurniture.com/cat_toy_scratchnbuddy.php http://www.petdiscounters.com/c48/Hanging-Kitty-Scratcher-with-Toy-p1769.html?PETDISCO=ffrc07q7ltrsdsptjjajpgcb13 http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441780018 http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441780018FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302025602ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023690bmUID=1168530301210itemNo=4N=2023690+4294967258#detail http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=11607N=2002+113122 Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: winter day, home with the cats
I have something at home that looks like the last item, but is meant for the shower. I will see if they will use that. I hung it on my closet door, but that would be the wrong location. I will move it to my bedroom door and see if thye will use it there. Sally On 1/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's cold here, but the heat is staying on so far since we relit it last time. It's 2 degrees out now, according to my porch thermometer. They make flat cat scratching pads you can hang on a doorknob. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=16097N=2002+113122 http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.aspx?familyid=100604 http://www.felinefurniture.com/cat_toy_scratchnbuddy.php http://www.petdiscounters.com/c48/Hanging-Kitty-Scratcher-with-Toy-p1769.html?PETDISCO=ffrc07q7ltrsdsptjjajpgcb13 http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441780018 http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441780018FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302025602ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023690bmUID=1168530301210itemNo=4N=2023690+4294967258#detail http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=11607N=2002+113122 Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: winter day, home with the cats
I am very tuned into weather. I work in a retail nursery and my job is mostly outside. Of course when the weather is real bad we try to find something to do inside. Spring is right around the corner and I can't wait. I got poison ivy the other day because I was planting some helleborus beneath and old tree. Well you can't see the poison ivy at this time of year, but you sure can get it. My stupidity of course. Sally On 1/22/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and candlemas is coming up, february 2nd. midpoint between winter solstice and spring equinox. also known as st brigid's day, when the celts would go up and light huge bonfires on the top of hills to remind the sun to return. i've always loved that imagery (i'm from buffalo; i know about dreary.) On 1/22/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Sally you paint such a melancholy winter scene. I just wanted to let you know I understand and appreciate those winter blues. I also know what it's like to miss that window of opportunity with getting someone spayed. I'm sure Daisy's pitiful howlings are not doing anything to make the scene more upbeat. Hang in there girl, you're doing a fabulous job holding things together and caring for your babies. Just remember, the only true constant in life is change. Just hold on, nothing remains the same for very long. Before you know it the scenery will change and the sun will be shining through. Hugs to you and yours, Nina Sally Davis wrote: Today has been a miserable day here in VA. Freezing rain and sleet brought me home early from work. This gave me time to spend with Junior and my other cats. Junior seems to feel better. His ears are almost normal looking. I am not sure what cause the hematomas because he did not shake his head or paw at them. Of course he is still egtting medicine for his eyes. He vision is very limited in his good eye. It is still dilated from the infection. He is eating better although I am enticing him with anything he will eat. He gets Lysine in baby food. My thoughts about Tiny. Tiny always has a cough throughout his short life. Not a bad cough and not even every day. Just sometimes he would cough after purring. When he was a kitten he did have a URI and his sinuses smelled terrible. He thew this off on his own. I had suspected he had heartworms even though not real common in cats I live on a lake in mosquito infested woods. I asked the vet he saw last summer if this was a possibility and though she did not test for it gave him revolution. At that time he had a bad URI which the cough was very severe, just like the one he had the day he died, but instead of dying he just coughed spastically. It knocked him off his feet. It would explain his sudden death. He did test a faint positive on the snap test but never really had symptoms nor did he catch Junior's last URI. Right now Daisy is crying out pitifully. In the mist of my Feline Luekemia crisis last fall, I had to put off her spaying. I advised the shelter I got her from of what was going on so they did not bug me for the papers. ITwo weeks ago I called a low cost clinic to schedule her spaying and they called back. Ususally you get an appointment in a week or two, this time it was over a month. So Now I have to wait until Feb. 27 to get her fixed in the meantime, she is coming in heat. What a royal pain. I have always gotten my females fixed before their first heat. OK the waether is making me think too much. Thanks everyone for your support. This is the best group. Sally, Junior, Daisy, Grey and White, Spike, Lily, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Silver, Speedy -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Junior
Hi everyone, Just a brief update on Junior. His Right eye still looks like it is budging with a definite cataract. He does not appear to have discomfort from it though. He is still getting the Trusopt for Glaucoma and the chloramphenicol antibiotic ointment in both eyes. I also have been giving him lysine 500mg and have added Transfer Factor Plus to his supplements. He gets Pet Tabs plus iron as well . He is eating better and has put on a little bit of weight. He is exploring the house. I am guessing because his vision is not as good as it used to be. The left eye remains dilated and the pupil is misshaped. It does look better to me although. I may be getting used to it that way. He ears are thick and red again. It doesn'r seem to bother him I will keep and eye on them. This has been a very reactive disease. It does not allow you to be proactive. I am hoping while he is better the Transfer Factor will help his immune system. I am still considering removing the right eye, but I want him at his best before surgery. Any idea how long after I use the Transfer Factor I should wait. Daisy is in heat and driving me crazy. I could not get her an appointment until 2/27/07. I just want to thank everyone for their help. I still have not gotten anywhere with my vet for interferon. He decided to do the steriods. I think the shot gave Junior a boost but I still want to give the interferon a shot. I am hoping the Transfer Factor will keep him stable. Thanks, Sally Davis -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Rompi
Hi Paulo, You can use other email addresses for Yahoo groups to send and receive posts. I use several different email addresses. I am new to Gmail, but this is where I receive all my yahoo group posts including the anemia group and others. The only problem is with yahoo and sometimes for weird reasons email has bounced and you quit recieving it. You can got to yahoo to reactivate. Someone elase may know where to find your security question for the groups. I would just sign up again with a new user ID. There are some really good Groups there. Sally Davis On 1/27/07, Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too shocked and needed a rest to gather my ideas. In addition, very high stress always induces me sleep, just could not stay awake. We haven't assessed more specifically the type of lymphoma yet, but are going to do it between today and monday. Michelle, I have a problem with Yahoo groups. I am a subscriber of the feline anemia group since 2000 or maybe even before, so I guess I have an User ID and password (but my Email address is not with Yahoo, as you can see). But now, at 7+ years, I cannot remember my ID or password any longer. The strange thing is that I remember there was a security question to be answered, that I filled in at the moment of subscription, that should serve to retrieve ID and/or Password. But I am unable to find where to access to that question. In addition, even trying to create a new profile as a new user, Yahoo only accepts @yahoo.com addresses where to send group posts. This is definitely odd. Is it possible that, being a member of the Feline Anemia group already, and so receiving the posts, there isn't a way to have me recognized as a legitimate user? Is there a way to write to a human being at Yahoo, and not to a stupid automated answer system? Soon Paolo -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Please pray for Lucy
I too am trying to envsion her. Please sent me a picture too and I will continue to pary and send positive vibes your way. Love Sally, Junior, Daisy, Speedy Silver, Grey and White, Little Black, Lily, and Spike On 1/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't attach a picture to a post, but will mail you one offline. If anyone else wants me to do that, please let me know. Thanks, Michelle In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:34:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle, I will be praying for Lucy - what does she look like so that I can picture her? Leslie -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Chris and Mylo
You and Mylo know when the time is right. My thoughts are with you. It is a decsion I never want to make but I am glad that I can make it when the time is right. Hugs, Sally Junior Daisy Spike Speedy Ittle Bitty Silver Grey and white Little Black Lily On 1/29/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes the doctor talked about hydrating Mylo but would not help all the other ailments. Sadly, Mylo is too far gone at this point. I've gone over every angle on how I can help Mylo become healthy. Looking at him is difficult as I keep thinking that tomorrow at this time he will not be beside me. From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Chris and Mylo Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:02:43 -0600 I'm so very sorry to hear the diagnosis for Mylo. (I'm glad you had an understanding, nice, educated doctor---astonishingly that is not always the caseit helps a LOT, when you and your beloved kitty are going through a traumatic time). Did the doctor talk about giving Mylo sub-cutaneous fluids (aka sub-Qs) for his dehydration? If you don't know about giving sub-Qs, it's something that is easily learned and that you would be able to do for him yourself at home to keep him hydrated and comfortable at least in that respect. (When I did it every other day for my foster Pookie, it actually bonded us more.) My housecall vet offered to show me, and sold me a bag of fluid and needles to start me off, and I imagine most vets would be willing to do the same (or have one of their staff show you). Many people on the list are able to give sub-Qs. The fluids and needles can be bought online at competitive prices. love and hugs to you and Mylo, Kerry M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo Oh Chris...this is so hard. I am so sorry the prognosis was not better. You can let him know that you love him and comfort him. I know it is so hard to talk about - but there comes a time when the kindest gift you can give is freedom from pain and suffering. You will know if that time comes. Every day is so precious. My heart is with you. elizabeth On 1/28/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mylo went to the specialist yesterday. The doctor was very nice and seemed very educated on FeLV. He said that Mylo's kidney's are very inflamed, and that he believe's that Mylo has lymphoma and possibly liver disease. This diagnosis didn't surprise me as I know lymphoma can accompany FeLV. Mylo is dehydrated even though I give him water throughout the day. He's just not drinking enough on his own. So the vet said Mylo would have to be hospitalized, have a blood transfusion, be put on meds and have chemotherapy. He said that even if I did all those things, Mylo would most likely only have 4 to 5 months to live. I am glad I went to the appointment because I wanted a specialist's opinion even though I know how bad off Mylo is. Mylo has hardly eaten the last couple of days. His energy is still very low, and the sick meow sound that he makes once and a while is very painful to hear. Mylo's quality of life has deteriorated within the last month and I don't want to put him through any more stress than he's already gone through. I tried my best to find a way to help him get better but I have to accept that there is nothing more I can do to help him become healthy again. That is a difficult thing. From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Chris and Mylo Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:57:39 -0800 Hi Chris, I've been thinking about you guys. What happened at the Internist today? I hope no news is good news. Please update us when you can. Nina Chris Ramzy wrote: Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo. _ Don't waste time standing in line-try shopping online. Visit Sympatico / MSN Shopping today! http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or
Re: Yahoo groups
I was thinking the same thing Sally Davis On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just get a NEW yahoogroups account? It sure would be a LOT easier! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Something ODD with Yahoo groups (sorry Michelle...)
I do not reveive the anemia group in digest form, but I do receive another group in digest form. I did as you said it took me to my group and I clicked post option on the menu to the leftand it did no ask for me to log in. I am logged into mail from last night for yahoo, but the groups have always required a separate login. I hope this helps. Sally On 1/31/07, Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My deepest excuses to you all and especially to Michelle that is having an hard time with Lucy... tomorrow, at this precise time, will be my turn. I would ask to anybody subscribed to the Feline Anemia group of Yahoo, to check this issue. When you receive the Digest (if you are in digest mode), if you click on the Create new topic or Visit your group on the web links (bottom of the Email), are you sent to a page where you are already logged in (because you were authenticated by the link embedded in the very Email) or do you need to login anyway? I am NOT logged in, and this is definitely odd, because I am clicking on a link embedded in an Email that I received being a legitimate subscriber of that group... it looks sort of having been deleted from the Feline Anemia subscribers, except for the only fact that I am still receiving the posts. Your feedback would be the only way to understand what is really going on. Thank you again Paolo -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Junior
I now have Junior on Transfer factor Plus. Time will tell if it is helpful. I like to think it will help him. He is somewhat stable except for the eye problem. He sees very little right now. He is figuring his was around the house and venture out of my bedroom often. I take that for a sign he at leasts feels better. Althiugh I know glaucoma is painful he shows no sign of discomfort in that eye. Maybe because of the prior nerve damage. My Fluffy had glaucoma from an eye injury and he let me know it did not feel good. That is when I decided to have the eye removed. I pretty much have decided it is the right thing for junior. I just want himat his best if he is to have surgery. I am hoping the Transfer Factor will build up his immune systen and help clear the infection in the other eye. Junior fights me now when he sees me coming. He does not want the eye ointments! He hates it. I take that as a sign he feels better. He is not grooming much, but he is eating a bit better. I upgraded his Catfood. HIs Lysine and Transfer Factor get mixed in the morning dose. I am sorry to hear about Lucy. She looks much like my Spike who thank goodness is neagtive for FELV. She had been vaccinated many years ago by me and then again last fall. I am still praying for you and Lucy. TIme to torture Junior Sally -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE
Good news about Bandit, YIPEE! I did not see that episode. That is a terrible policy! I wonder when the episode will repeat. They may get another email from me as well. Sally Davis On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah! Patti her clan PS - OT, but did anyone see Animal Planet (Animal Cops - Houston) last night? I was *FURIOUS* They found a stray and *repeatedly* said that Felv was *ALWAYS* fatal and they euphemize any cat that tests positive!!! G, they're going to get an informative e-mail from me! That's if I remember Just imagine how many people saw that will euthanize those babies Not to mention how many other shelters will do it because the Houston SPCA has that policy.. -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE
I used that line or a variation of that quote to my vet on my last visit. I can't remember what he said, but I think he felt I was being pessimistic. He has a good sense of humor though. Sally On 2/2/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: um, folks, LIFE is ALWAYS FATAL! are we supposed to euthanize every thing that is born because it's going to die at some point? On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah! Patti her clan PS - OT, but did anyone see Animal Planet (Animal Cops - Houston) last night? I was *FURIOUS* They found a stray and *repeatedly* said that Felv was *ALWAYS* fatal and they euphemize any cat that tests positive!!! G, they're going to get an informative e-mail from me! That's if I remember Just imagine how many people saw that will euthanize those babies Not to mention how many other shelters will do it because the Houston SPCA has that policy.. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE--Animal Planet
Hi Kerry Here is the link to the Houston SPCA featured on Animal planet. http://www.spcahouston.org/SPCAHouston/Meet_the_HSPCA_Animal_Cruelty_Team.asp?SnID=2 Animal Planet's home page. http://animal.discovery.com/ You should be able to contact through these links. Sally On 2/2/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone has an email address to write to for Animal Planet, I'll send them the dozen or so inspiring FeLV testimonials I collected from you wonderful people last year to persuade the new PAWS shelter to include an FeLV room. (The shelter in question is slated to open July this year by the way. I'll be visiting as soon as it does open to check out if they kept their word and really did include an FELV room.) Kerry M. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, February 02, 2007 10:33 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE Yeah! Patti her clan PS - OT, but did anyone see Animal Planet (Animal Cops - Houston) last night? I was *FURIOUS* They found a stray and *repeatedly* said that Felv was *ALWAYS* fatal and they euphemize any cat that tests positive!!! G, they're going to get an informative e-mail from me! That's if I remember Just imagine how many people saw that will euthanize those babies Not to mention how many other shelters will do it because the Houston SPCA has that policy.. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
I am praying
I am praying for you and your precious Lucy. We all understand how hard these decisions are to make. I think eating is the most important thing and it is so hard when the cat is fighting you. I am sure I will be in your shoes down the road with Junior. I spoke with the vet yesterday about refilling his eye antibiotic. SHe said it wasn't neccessary. He has lost most of the sight in his good eye and is adjusting to his partial blindness. He never got steriod drops for his eye and I am not sure if this will help with the dilation or not. His pupil is dialated and irregular shaped. It has been this way for weeks. The conjunctivitis did clear up so I am dsure the infection is gone. He is on Transfer Factor Plus, CoQ10, lysine and Pet Tinic( now Pet Tabs plus Iron). He is definitely feeling better and put back on some weight. I hate when he gets skinny. I will leave him alone for a few days and see how the eye does. I just went into the living room where he is sleeping on the vent(warm there). I picked him up and instead of protesting or growling like he usally does he was purring. He is feeling better. Maybe the Transfer Factor Plus that was added to his routine a week ago. The vet says he should have visits every 4-6 weeks. If he can go that long without a crisis that would be great. I think he is past the initial infection stage. I am hoping to maintain his health. Thanks everyone for all your help. Lance thanks for answering my question about the Transfer Factor Plus. I told my vet I was using this. It should be interesting to see how he is a month from now. My vet doesn't normally run lots of blood work. The anemia can be checked fairly cheaply in house. I have paid some of the bill at the vet's office. The rest is on credit cards and will take a while. Thanks Sally -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: When do cats throw up?
Hi Paulo Most of my cats do this. Sometimes they eat the grass to get rid of a tummy ache. I am sureone else will geive a better explanation. Sally On 2/5/07, Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am obviously hyper-sensitive towards Rompi, but there is something he always did in the past: when he eats some herbs [or grass, sorry, I am not sure about the appropriate English word], after some hours he always trow up, and there you find the herb [grass], still whole. Do your cats behave the same way?... Paolo -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Please add my Leader to the CLS
Hi Susan So sorry for your loss. He was so lucky to have you and you were lucky to have him for those years. May he have a gentle journey as he meets up with his litter mates. Sally Davis On 2/6/07, Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as I had feared, my little miracle man, Leader, was dead when I got home yesterday evening.I'd given him a kiss and he'd meowed me a little good bye before I left him -- all wrapped up in the sweatshirt I'd slept in and cuddled warm on my bed with some of his buddies staying close. Born with feline leukemia, and my bottle baby from age 3 weeks, he outlived his 5 brothers and sisters by years - in fact he was just a couple of months shy of six years. Someone said to me yesterday that I must have given him good care -- but I know it wasn't the care he received; his littermates all got the same care and Mittens, his brother who went to live with Gloria, got better, more consistent good care.It was just the luck of the draw. I am so honored to have had him in my life for so long. He was truly amazing, and I shall miss him terribly - as I did last night when I reached out and he wasn't by my head. -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Bart
Dear Patti I am so sorry you had to let Bart go. He trusted you and you did the right thing. He is now pain free. Bless you Sally On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn struggled (*very hard *) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick inside the barn, no matter how well I thought I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly believe that because I had earned their trust, Charity led me to him in the blizzard She *knew *he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a strange one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash Charity *not* being challenged by my *very large, very territorial, *Rottie). I am also very thankful I was allowed to get both Charity Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just knew He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already missing quite a few.. His vision was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He wanted to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the possibilities of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of wet FIP (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly *very anemic*. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he explained it could be, lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made *the dreaded decision..* My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him kissed his (big ole) head.. Not a good day.. I *HATE* having to play God.. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also try to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti her clan -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Lucy
Hi Everyone, Michelle wanted everyone to know Lucy passed yesterday afternoon with help from the vet. She had the vet come to the house. I think it would be appropriate to add her to the CLS. I am so sad. I feel like she was one of my own. I know everything was done for her. Sally Davis, Junior, Speedy, Spike, Grey and WHite. Itlle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver Angels, Fluffy, Tiny, Pumpkin, Lionel, and all the rest from years past
Re: Big D is at Peace
Kelly It sounds like Big D has a long and wonderful life. He is now at peace. You are a wonderful person for lokking after so many kitties. My prayers are with you. Thanks for helping me with Junior. I have an actual appointment for him in March. So far all his vet appointments have been a reaction to his secondary infections. I should get to talk to her about the interferon. I know she read the paper. I think he is doing well on the Transfer Factor Plus. He still has inflammation in his eye. Sally On 2/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big D (Big Daddy is at rest now) I took him to my vethe went cuddled up in a box with his blanket..He had buprenex on board so he was in no pain,, they have a special roomwarm and welcoming and a special table with a wonderful fleecy through. She gave him a sedative and he just relaxed and closed his eyes getting lots of cuddles and pets,,, after a few minutes and again reviewing all the labs to make 100 % sure she gave the the pink resting juice and he never flinched,, Just warm and safe and at peace, I am Sad but I feel a sense of peace that I was able to give him this final gift, he had a wonderful long life,,he was content and happy and I can say that in 20 years he never had to suffer,,What a special thing. Thanks to all of you Kelly -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Lucy and Michelle
I am forwarding any post reagrding Lucy to Michelle. I have not heard from her in several days. I don't want to think about when it may be Junior's turn. He is only 4 and has several problems now. Not that I think he minds, but it bothers me. The eye thing has not resolved itself. He will just have really poor sight out of his good eye. The ears are something else. Has anyone had problems with ears in a FeLV cat. The lobes are swollen and thick and fell thicker everyday. He sometime will paw or scratch but it doesn't seem to bother him, I worry about an ear infection, but there is no discahrge or bad smell. I think sometimes at night just behind the ears feels swollen, but I don't know what it would be. anyone experience this? He actually acts like he feels pretty good. I do wprry of course about everything. Sally Davis --
Re: Lucy and Michelle/Ear problems
Hi Beth He was checked out by a vet and there was no infection or mites just the inflammation. A that time he gave Junior a steroid shot and the swelling went down, but it only lasted a couple of days. I do have some Tresaderm that I am going to use on him. It was given to him last spring after he came home from being hit by a car. He did have mites at that time. His ears have been clear ever since then. One thing today he feels great!. He ran after me thinking he was getting another goody, (he did get one). I have not seen him move that fast in ages. Maybe all the supplements he gets is making him feel better. I love my Junior so much. I am hoping he can make it until March 9th when he has a real appointment scheduled. So far all his visits have been sick visits or getting the immuno-regulin shots. Maybe not he is supposed to get the feline distemper shots. He did not get vaccinated when Tiny did because he was sick at that time. One day at a time. Daisy is out of heat but for how long I don't know. She was only out of heat for two days the last time. Her appointment is Feb 27. Very sorry to hear of you loss Laura. Thanks for being such a good mom. Thanks Sally On 2/15/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has a vet checked for yeast or mites? Beth *Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I am forwarding any post reagrding Lucy to Michelle. I have not heard from her in several days. I don't want to think about when it may be Junior's turn. He is only 4 and has several problems now. Not that I think he minds, but it bothers me. The eye thing has not resolved itself. He will just have really poor sight out of his good eye. The ears are something else. Has anyone had problems with ears in a FeLV cat. The lobes are swollen and thick and fell thicker everyday. He sometime will paw or scratch but it doesn't seem to bother him, I worry about an ear infection, but there is no discahrge or bad smell. I think sometimes at night just behind the ears feels swollen, but I don't know what it would be. anyone experience this? He actually acts like he feels pretty good. I do wprry of course about everything. Sally Davis -- -- TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Pickshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49979/*http://tv.yahoo.com/on Yahoo! TV. --
Re: Lucy and Michelle/Ear problems
I have 8 other cats 5 are in/out cats, 2 are inside only and one is outside only(her choice). I know it is controversial the Merck Manual says to vaccinate except for FeLV. I do not try to keep them separated because it is less stressful. They are vaccinated against distemper, rabies and FeLV. Tiny did fine with the vaccines he died of something unrelated. I may just do the immuno-regulin. Any other opinions here. Thanks for your opinion. Sally Davis On 2/15/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would consider not vaccinating Junior for anything unless the risk of the disease is greater than the risk of the vaccine ---highly unlikely if he stays inside. Dixie will never be vaccinated for anything again. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:38 PM *Subject:* Re: Lucy and Michelle/Ear problems Hi Beth He was checked out by a vet and there was no infection or mites just the inflammation. A that time he gave Junior a steroid shot and the swelling went down, but it only lasted a couple of days. I do have some Tresaderm that I am going to use on him. It was given to him last spring after he came home from being hit by a car. He did have mites at that time. His ears have been clear ever since then. One thing today he feels great!. He ran after me thinking he was getting another goody, (he did get one). I have not seen him move that fast in ages. Maybe all the supplements he gets is making him feel better. I love my Junior so much. I am hoping he can make it until March 9th when he has a real appointment scheduled. So far all his visits have been sick visits or getting the immuno-regulin shots. Maybe not he is supposed to get the feline distemper shots. He did not get vaccinated when Tiny did because he was sick at that time. One day at a time. Daisy is out of heat but for how long I don't know. She was only out of heat for two days the last time. Her appointment is Feb 27. Very sorry to hear of you loss Laura. Thanks for being such a good mom. Thanks Sally On 2/15/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has a vet checked for yeast or mites? Beth *Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I am forwarding any post reagrding Lucy to Michelle. I have not heard from her in several days. I don't want to think about when it may be Junior's turn. He is only 4 and has several problems now. Not that I think he minds, but it bothers me. The eye thing has not resolved itself. He will just have really poor sight out of his good eye. The ears are something else. Has anyone had problems with ears in a FeLV cat. The lobes are swollen and thick and fell thicker everyday. He sometime will paw or scratch but it doesn't seem to bother him, I worry about an ear infection, but there is no discahrge or bad smell. I think sometimes at night just behind the ears feels swollen, but I don't know what it would be. anyone experience this? He actually acts like he feels pretty good. I do wprry of course about everything. Sally Davis -- -- TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Pickshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49979/*http://tv.yahoo.com/on Yahoo! TV. -- -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: OT: Chocolate cat needs a name
Reuben might still be an appropriate name. Any one watch American Idol. Reuben Stoddard won a couple years ago. If the cat is a rolly polly then the name would be a great fir with his coloring. Sally On 2/16/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I volunteer with a rescue that has taken in cats from a hoarding case. Some have tested FeLV+. One of the cats that tested negative and is awaiting a retest is a cocoa colored cat. He is all brown. I have never seen a cat like this in person. Anyway, his name was Reuben and we are searching for a better name. The possibilitties so far are Cocoa, Chocolate Boy, and Whitman, none of which I care for. If anyone can think of a name for a chocolate colored cat, can you please let me know. You can email me off list if you want. And please keep your fingers crossed he retests negative. Beth -- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Help needed
Hi Debbie I went through this scenario this past fall started with 11 cats. Two cats became ill. One Died at the vets office was never tested for FeLV but I guarantee based on symptoms he was also FeLV. This prompted testing of Junior who tested positive and was sick with a 106.5 fever. Ok now I have 9 more cats with the high costs of testing and Junior had already cost me $1000 bc he was hit by a car. I worked out something with the vet. They only charged a short visit and tested 4-5 cats at a time plus the Idexx snap test. They further gave me a multicat discount, and then finally Idexx had a rebate at the time so I got refunded $15 from Idexx. The vets office even submitted that paperwork. Here was the bad news 2 more cats tested positive and one also tested for FIV. He was sick when I got him from a shelter and was showing symptoms of being sick again. I did have him PTS. Tiny tested positive, Junior's half brother. Tiny was asymptomatic. Junior was sick with a URI for quite a while following the positive test. Then an eye infection he is mostly blind now due to the fact he already lost sight in the eye where he was hot by a car. However the good news id he is stable now and has outlived the short term life expectancy for FelV cats. I have him on several supplements and he received a course of immuno regulin. Tiny died Xmas day, but I was there and I do not think his FeLv status had anything to do with it. He had some other undiagnosed condition that I could guess at but it would only be a guess. After I had all the cats tested I had them Vaccinated for everything, That was expensive as well. I now have mixed the cats and no other cats have been sick. Daisy my newest baby is BIG TIME in heat. She has been screaming for two days. She peed on my pillow last night and gain this morning marked my headboard.Thank god her appt is tomorrow. The clinic was booked 7 weeksin advance. She had never been in heat when I made the appointment. Junior has a checkup next week. I need to call his vet this week to see if she will refill his Tresaderm. It was fron another vet clinic where he was treated for his car injuries. He ears have gotten better since I started using it but I am out now. It seems he did have some kind of ear infection. Thats about it. Good luck with your loved ones. Sally Davis On 2/26/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually spoke to the local humane societies. I asked if I bought all the shots if they knew someone who would give them to my cats for a donation to their group. The vet we took Elsa to, also was their suggestion. The vet suggested just vaccinating all without testing, when I mentioned this to the humane society they disagreed! I'm thinking this is great - it's their vet and they don't believe in her advice. They told me I should get all the cats tested or expect to lose some or all of them to the disease. -Original Message- From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 26, 2007 2:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Help needed I know how hard it is to come up with the cash and how expensive vet care can be. I have been fortunate enough to find a rescue organization in my area that helps me with costs sometimes. I've developed a relationship with them and they trust me enough to know that I have the cats best interest at heart. If they have enough money in the till, they will pay for spay/neuters and some vet care for new arrivals. If they don't, or if it's a procedure that their group wouldn't normally allocate funds to, they'll let me use their group discount, (at the vet that gives discounts to them), put the cost on their bill and then I pay them back in the form of a donation. This helps me because I get the discount and also can deduct the donation on my taxes. It helps them because they can show my donation on their books, and of course they appreciate my efforts to help the animals. Call around to all the groups in your area and tell them what you do for the cats in your care. Let them know that you don't expect them to do anything for you, but would be grateful for suggestions and any help they might provide. They might have extra food/supplies to share, or they might be willing to let you use their vets for things like testing, vaccinations, or spay/neuters. Some groups do their own vaccinations and testing, they may be willing to test your guys at their cost. It never hurts to ask and usually it's so refreshing to them to get calls from people that are doing their part to help animals. So many people call rescues to dump what should be their own responsibility in the rescue's lap and expect them to rush over and take care of whatever problem they need help with never taking into account how overwhelmed and under resourced they are. Approach them in the right way, and I'm sure you'll find a valuable resource. I'm glad if the group has helped you to feel less alone in the good work you are doing. It's been a Godsend to me
Daisy
Hi all Daisy was spayed yesterday. She did just fine. She got outside a total of 3 times in the past month waiting for her appointment. The last time was this past saturday. I chased her for 25 minutes. The tomcat was chasing as well. Finally Ittle Bitty, my big ol loverboy chased tom off and it confused her. I was able to catch her. I was most concerned that she would go off for a few days and miss her appointment. I would have had her fixed even if ton had caught her. The clinic was celebrating spay neuter day so I got 5$ off the cost was $30. I also got a t-shirt as well. They are having a vaccination clinic in april and the FeLV test is only $22. I won't test the other cats again unless there seems to be a problem. So far all the cats are healthy. I think Junior is my only pos and the others lucked out. Of course losing 3 was not lucking out. I have not been sleeping well the past few days, so I am not up to date. I will have to wait to read the posts. Thanks everyone, Sally Davis --
Re: Please add Lucy to the CLS
hi maggie So sorry to hear about Lucy. Having lost 4 babies last year I can relate. I will be praying for Izzie to stay negative. Sally On 3/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been on the list for several months but I wanted to let you know that I lost Lucy on Tuesday morning. It was quick and she didn't seem to suffer. She was cuddled up in my arms and we were sitting on the sofa. She was only sick for a few days and the no one thought she was close to death. Lucy was a sweetheart, she loved to be held and to curl up in my lap. She loved her sister Izzie and they played and slept together. She was just a little over a year old. Izzie originally tested negative, then positive, and then negative. So I'm going to wait a month and have Izzie retested. Please pray for us that she stays negative. I honestly don't know how I could go through this again. Izzie has been seeking a lot of affection and sometimes wanders around meowing and looking. If anyone has any advice how to make this easier for her I would really appreciate it. Thank you for all of your support and wisdom, Maggie -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Debbie's multible testing need
I don't know where you live, but the clinic that just spayed my Daisy is having a vaccination clinic in April. The cost of the testing is $22.00. I am in Richmond, Va. I wish they did this back in the fall. I am not sure it would have helped me. I too felt I was in an emergency situation having just lost a cat and the second tested positive with similiar symptoms as the cat I lost. I have a total of nine cats now. I started last year with 11 lost 4 gained two more. I also mix them now, but Speedy has been sneezing and I am trying to keep him out of Junior's (my pos) room. I am hoping it is allergies for Speedy I know mine are acting up. Tree pollen season. Speedy has all his vacinations. If I remember corectly he does go through sneezing periods. Sally On 3/1/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose the main reason we would like to know is so we can try to help keep them healthier longer. Also, my aunt has alot of cats and so does my sister, neighbors, - I would hate to somehow transmit this disease. I feel a bit confused because we have had some people say it is hard to catch, but others say it is easily transmitted. With where we live I am sure we will eventually accumulate more cats. We just aren't the type to turn a blind eye if we see them suffering. I think we should know if we would be exposing them. It was the vets idea to test them all. Seems to me they could be a bit cheaper but the ones in our area aren't. We definitely enjoy the ones we have. They are our babies: Their names are as follows: Frodo, Arwen, Daffodil, Tigger, Algernon, Koko, Lady, Sneezy, Petey, Patches, Cassie, Fuzzy, Solomon, and Sheba. Seven were found in Dayton Ohio in a trash bin. The first 3 were long hair, the next 4 still had the unbilical cords attached. Solomon and Sheba we brought back to Ohio from Missouri. They were kittens living in a field with horses. They were eating horse feed and insects (starving). Sneezy was a neighbors cat we think. They went away for the winter and left her outside. She came to our house and was pregnant. She gave birth on our new loveseat! We also have a black lab called Charlie and at Christmas my husband found a chocolate lab puppy (around 4 weeks old) in a box alongside the road. He called her Tegan. She is now up to 26 lbs! There are days when we feel like we live in a zoo, but we would not trade them for anything. Funny thing is my husband came to the U.S. from England. He never really liked cats (much more of a dog person). Now wherever he goes they all follow him. He can not even use the restroom without Daffodil going with him! She paws at the door until he leaves her in. I call him the Pied Piper of Yorkshire. Debbie -Original Message- From: tamara stickler Sent: Mar 1, 2007 1:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Debbie's multible testing need Debbie, Let me ask you this: if you are planing on keeping all the cats that you currently have, why the rush to test? They've already been exposed, yes? Folks on this list have proven that positive cats can have great lives...and many of them have households where they've mixed both positive and neg. cats Why not just cut yourselves a break, and take it day by day? Enjoy the ones you have (whatever their health status), try not to add more, of if you do, get them vaccinated first, and just go on with your lives. What is the point of rushing to have them all tested? If you feel you NEED to knowshop around for a compassionate vet. I have one that cuts her clients a break on households with multible pets. Some mobil vets will agree to only charge for 1 office (house) visit if you get more than one animal looked at at once...OR...is there a cat rescue organization that would help you with the costs of testing? -- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alertshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Daisy
Fat chance on that she has already managed to get outside a few times. The incision is so small I don't see how they do the surgery. It is quite amazing. She is amazing that she was neg for FeLV as she was so young when being exposed. She never caught theURI from the other cats either. Lionel was her best buddy. He had the URI and later tested pos for FeLV and FIV. I think he had FIV when adopted bc he has a wound that took months to heal. I think he caught the FeLV here. He was strictly inside form the time I got him. My other cats are in/out cats. Sally On 3/2/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, I'm glad to hear that Daisy made it through her spay! Yea! Now if you can just keep her inside!!! lol :) Wendy --- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Daisy was spayed yesterday. She did just fine. She got outside a total of 3 times in the past month waiting for her appointment. The last time was this past saturday. I chased her for 25 minutes. The tomcat was chasing as well. Finally Ittle Bitty, my big ol loverboy chased tom off and it confused her. I was able to catch her. I was most concerned that she would go off for a few days and miss her appointment. I would have had her fixed even if ton had caught her. The clinic was celebrating spay neuter day so I got 5$ off the cost was $30. I also got a t-shirt as well. They are having a vaccination clinic in april and the FeLV test is only $22. I won't test the other cats again unless there seems to be a problem. So far all the cats are healthy. I think Junior is my only pos and the others lucked out. Of course losing 3 was not lucking out. I have not been sleeping well the past few days, so I am not up to date. I will have to wait to read the posts. Thanks everyone, Sally Davis -- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: 14 cats going to be tested
Hi debbie Here is wishing you luck with the testing. I was not as lucky as others inthe group I wound up with 3 of 11 cats positive. I am down to one positive at this time. He is symptomatic, but doing ok right now. He sees the Vet Friday and will probably get vaccinated unless the thing with his ears is an infection. I am hoping it is an infection bc it could be something much worse. His ears do feel hot from time to time and he looks like a Scottish Fold cat bc the ears are bent forward. This is not normal for him. All my positive were yellow cats. I wonder too about genetics. Only two of the cats were ralated. Half brothers. Hugs, Sally On 3/6/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am taking our 14 cats in tonight to be tested for FELV. This was after we had Elsa put to sleep because of fluid in her lungs and her testing positive. Wish us luck. I don't know what to expect. I'd like to think no one else will test positive, but I doubt that will be the case. All the cats are around the same age (3-4 yrs). Different litters though. Has a genetic factor to this disease ever been found?
Re: Opinions appreciated
Hi Debbie, I do not think they are chastising you. I personally do not intend to add cats, until after Junior passes and I an sure the other eight cats stay clean of the virus. Although things happen. A cat showed up during the middel fo my crisis similiar to yours last fall. He was emaciated and starving. He joined the group and it saved his life. Ok for the rest of the group, Junior got back from the vet today. I was so hoping to see Dr. Staunton, but she took the week off. Dr Larrick is good but very conservative. Junior has swollen lymph nodes behind his ears and his back legs. Junior otherwise is stable. The Dr suggest we wait and see because his weight is good and no other symptoms. He said the lymph system may be doing what it is supposed to do fight infection. I decided against further vaccinations. What do yall think. Money is always an issue. He is on a good diet he gained back the weight he lost, he gets Petinic, CoQ10, lysine and Transfer Factor Plus. This has seemed to stabilize him. Thanks, Sally On 3/9/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been learning ALOT from this group in the past few weeks. I wondered if I again might ask your opinion on something? I thought since the outcome of our 14 cats testing negative for FELV was so wonderful that I would share the news with the humane society. I had emailed them asking if any of them would be willing to innoculate our cats for a donation. (The answer was no - that it needed done by a vet.) Anyhow I thought maybe sharing the outcome might help save other cats from unnecessary suffering. Below is my email and following is the response. After reading it let me know what you think. I was aggravated by the response. Our cats are VERY well taken care of. Wondered if it was just me reading it wrong, but I found it insulting. Luckily we do not live in the county they mention. Subject: Good News Importance: High Just thought I would email and let you know we had all 14 of our cats tested for FELV. Not a single one was positive. They were then all inoculated. The vet thought that our cat Elsa that we took to West Milton's vet may have been a false positive. If Elsa was FELV positive than the other cats and her lived together over 2 years, ate from the same bowls and used the same litter boxes. I just thought I would share this news with you. I have been in contact with people from http://www.felineleukemia.org - They offer A LOT of good information on the disease. You may want to check it out. Regards Debbie Morton Congrats. I still would add no other cats to the group in that you have over the allotted number for Miami County laws. Adding more will increase your financial liability as well as compromising the health of the cats you have made a commitment to. Tres Lynn -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Sally and Junior
Hi Nina, I wish Dr Staunton had been there today. I had many questions, she knows Junior better than Dr Larrick. Junior has had the swellings for almost two months now and everything is the same. Actually overall he is better than two months ago especially with the weight gain. I decided against vaccinations. Dr Larrick was ok with that. I have another cat right now who has mild symptoms of a URI. ALthough I do my best to keep them apart. Their is bound to be some small exposure. Junior has not caught whatever Silver has. I think this is a good sign that he has some defenses left. I will have to see if I can get a hold of Dr Staunton next week to get her opinion. She is the Junior vet at this practice. My guess is right out of vet school. I will say that Dr Larrick felt that were it Lymphoma Junior would be displaying other symptoms. Junior at least feels well enough to be lovey dovey these days. I am glad for that. Thanks, Sally On 3/9/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sally, I don't understand why your vet would suggest a wait and see approach with a felv pos cat. Aggressive, immediate vet care is always something that I recommend for all felv positive kitties. Their immune systems are weakened and don't work as efficiently as cats without the virus. Expecting that Junior's immune response will be enough to combat swollen lymph nodes of unknown origin seems foolhardy and down right dangerous to me. As far as further vaccinations... I wouldn't even consider inoculating Junior for ANYTHING. If it were me, I wouldn't consider inoculating Junior EVER. I may have my facts wrong, but it seems he's been fighting infections since you joined the list, he doesn't need the stress of vaccinations added to whatever else is going on with him. I'm very pleased to hear he has gained back his weight, that's wonderful news. You do have to figure out why his lymph nodes are still swollen though. If you can afford it, I'd take him to a board certified internist, a specialist that might be able to get to the bottom of his problems and help him get better. I'd ask Dr. Staunton, (since this seems to be the vet you trust), for a referral asap. My prayers are with you guys, Nina Ok for the rest of the group, Junior got back from the vet today. I was so hoping to see Dr. Staunton, but she took the week off. Dr Larrick is good but very conservative. Junior has swollen lymph nodes behind his ears and his back legs. Junior otherwise is stable. The Dr suggest we wait and see because his weight is good and no other symptoms. He said the lymph system may be doing what it is supposed to do fight infection. I decided against further vaccinations. What do yall think. Money is always an issue. He is on a good diet he gained back the weight he lost, he gets Petinic, CoQ10, lysine and Transfer Factor Plus. This has seemed to stabilize him. Thanks, Sally -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: Opinions appreciated
Hi Debbie, Where I live outdoor cats are all considered ferals. They don't count them as part of the household. I found this interesting. A vet told me that. I have always know we don't own cats they own us. My cats for the most part have picked me out. The last one literally showed up under my porch. He knew I would help him and he is now an inside cat. I have found with my limited exposure to rescue groups and I would assume the same with humane societies, the tend to be a bit strongly opinionated if not even being accusing. I am sure it comes from what they see. They do not know us at all, but it tends to put one off. I had a bad experience with a rescue group when I was trying to place a dog that I had not adopted but my mom did and she gave the dog to me after my dad died. I was not at home most of the time, I did not have a fenced yard and what this dog required was attention that I could not give her. Well you would have though I had committed a crime the way I was treated and no good solutions were offered other than I should crate her. I know now that it would have helped but was not the solution. Casey came up with her won solutions. She found a family with kids who lived nearby. She would go there and play. I later found where she was going. They offered to keep her for the weekend while I was away. When I came back I asked if they wanted her and they said yes. It was the best thing that happend to her. gotta go my boyfriend just fell, blames me for it. Another story Sally On 3/9/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Sally. We never intended having the ones we have. Actually they all arrived at the same time. Seven (2 different litters) were found in a trash dumpster. A lady I worked with brought them to work - she couldn't keep them because she was allergic. We hand raised all seven. I refuse to walk past a suffering animal though. I think that is cruel. I just felt that the humane society lady had no right to quote a law to us. Our 14 cats are all spayed/ neutered, clean, well groomed, have all their shots, don't fight, etc. You would tell someone they were over on the limit of kids they have, so why pets? I realize I'm probably being too sensitive, but if you don't know how someone lives I don't belive you should assume they have too many pets. I hope Junior improves. Sounds like you are taking good care of him. -Original Message- From: Sally Davis Sent: Mar 9, 2007 11:00 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Opinions appreciated Hi Debbie, I do not think they are chastising you. I personally do not intend to add cats, until after Junior passes and I an sure the other eight cats stay clean of the virus. Although things happen. A cat showed up during the middel fo my crisis similiar to yours last fall. He was emaciated and starving. He joined the group and it saved his life. Ok for the rest of the group, Junior got back from the vet today. I was so hoping to see Dr. Staunton, but she took the week off. Dr Larrick is good but very conservative. Junior has swollen lymph nodes behind his ears and his back legs. Junior otherwise is stable. The Dr suggest we wait and see because his weight is good and no other symptoms. He said the lymph system may be doing what it is supposed to do fight infection. I decided against further vaccinations. What do yall think. Money is always an issue. He is on a good diet he gained back the weight he lost, he gets Petinic, CoQ10, lysine and Transfer Factor Plus. This has seemed to stabilize him. Thanks, Sally On 3/9/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been learning ALOT from this group in the past few weeks. I wondered if I again might ask your opinion on something? I thought since the outcome of our 14 cats testing negative for FELV was so wonderful that I would share the news with the humane society. I had emailed them asking if any of them would be willing to innoculate our cats for a donation. (The answer was no - that it needed done by a vet.) Anyhow I thought maybe sharing the outcome might help save other cats from unnecessary suffering. Below is my email and following is the response. After reading it let me know what you think. I was aggravated by the response. Our cats are VERY well taken care of. Wondered if it was just me reading it wrong, but I found it insulting. Luckily we do not live in the county they mention. Subject: Good News Importance: High Just thought I would email and let you know we had all 14 of our cats tested for FELV. Not a single one was positive. They were then all inoculated. The vet thought that our cat Elsa that we took to West Milton's vet may have been a false positive. If Elsa was FELV positive than the other cats and her lived together over 2 years, ate from the same bowls and used the same litter boxes. I just thought I would share this news with you. I have been in contact with people from http://www.felineleukemia.org - They offer A LOT
Re: Opinions appreciated
I did not mean to offend anyone here. I am just saying they were only accusatory and not helpful. Casey was a much happier dog after she found a home where she had kids and much attention. Are you saying I should have kept her locked up all day? This is just a rhetorical question. As I said before Casey came to me after dad died my mother could not handle her. I know many folks have their parents pets euthanized as an option. I would never consider that as an option. If finding Casey a good home where she had children to play with her she lived a long healthy life is a bad thing then I am guilty. She was not my dog and did not want to be my dog, Sometimes animals choose who they want to be with and this is what she did. If i did not care about her I would have not gone and gotten her back from the animal control. They picked her up after she broke lose, She went through a closed window one day while I was at work. It is a wonder she was't cut. Wow, how do you get such a good internet connection from that other planet you must be living on? WHO considers all outdoor cats ferals? They need some education severely HUH?? you are so sarcastic G. I did not imply i agreed with this vet,I dont know her name. It is a vet I do not use I was with a coworker when we took a feral cat who had climbed into an engine to hide. This was something the vet said. The cats subsequently died from her injuries. The guy tried to sane her, but she was never able to go to the bathroom. bye sally On 3/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/9/07 4:41:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have found with my limited exposure to rescue groups and I would assume the same with humane societies, the tend to be a bit strongly opinionated if not even being accusing. I am sure it comes from what they see. *YES *Anyone *not* exposed w/ working in rescue has *NO* idea what we see *try* to deal with. Education is the key... And, our rescue group *tries* to educate. But, so many people don't even want to listen... No wonder I prefer creatures over people. No offense, but I've just seen and dealt with *WAY TOO MUCH* *Animals are NOT disposable..* Sorry,I hope I haven't offended anyone. JMO. Patti her (non-disposable, special needs rescued) gang -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: correct dose of clindamycin?
Hi Lynette My Cat Junior was given 25 mg (1dropperful) daily for a URI. It took a while but it did clear it up. Junior weighs 11lbs. The information on the package is rather confusing it talks in mg and ml. As best I i read it 1 ml contains 25mg of Clindamycin. It looks like the dose my cat got was on the low end for his weight. The package indicate 1-3 ml per 5lbs of body weight. I am thinking someone else here may better interpret this. Sally On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me the correct dose of clindamycin for non-toxoplasmosis uses (I know toxo is double). thanks, Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: correct dose of clindamycin?
Kelly That makes since as that is the dosage Junior received. He weighs 11 pounds. Sally On 3/12/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for acute mouth problems we always gave 25ml 2x daily On 3/12/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:03 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote: According to my Rx of Clindamycin for my 12 lb cat is was 25mgs every 24 hours. kelly Can someone tell me the correct dose of clindamycin for non-toxoplasmosis uses (I know toxo is double). thanks, Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release Date: 3/11/2007 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Junior tests
I just wanted you to know Junior is having a needle aspiration done this Friday of his lymph nodes which were enlarged at his last appointment. I called his regular vet today because I was not happy that nothing was done last Friday. I want to be proactive not reactive. His lymph nodes are swollen for one of two reasons. I think infection would be better than lymphoma. Either way he needs help. Please pray for my Junior. I upped his Transfer Factor Plus since it has anti-tumor properties. Thanks Sally --
Re: Junior tests
Thanks kelly and everyone for your encouragement. I think the other vet was going on the assumption that Junior's lymph system was doing it's job. I pray that is the case. HI glands have been swollen for about 8 weeks. He seems to have some pain near his left ear. He still eats well although his coat has not looked good since he was dx. This actually goes back to when he was hit by a car. I think maybe it is not so easy for him to groom himself. My bf was feeling bad yesterday and lashed out on me for caring more about the cats than him. It is hard to keep a balance. Junior is actually his cat. Men are not good at showing emotions. He is very hurt by Junior's illness. I said b4 he lost two Himalayan cats to this horrible disease. It must have come from the cattery where he got the kitten. Sincere thanks Sally On 3/13/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:57 PM 3/13/2007, you wrote: sally, we are all sending you and junior a lot of good thoughts,,,and remember, if the worse happens and it is lymphoma, it is usually very treatable. Cats also get very swollen lymph nodes from everyhting, please keep us posted, kelly I just wanted you to know Junior is having a needle aspiration done this Friday of his lymph nodes which were enlarged at his last appointment. I called his regular vet today because I was not happy that nothing was done last Friday. I want to be proactive not reactive. His lymph nodes are swollen for one of two reasons. I think infection would be better than lymphoma. Either way he needs help. Please pray for my Junior. I upped his Transfer Factor Plus since it has anti-tumor properties. Thanks Sally -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com
Re: BIG TEST QUESTION
I must be a very unlucky person because I had 3 and probably 4 cats FeLV. Only two were related from litters a year apart. The other two cats were not related to my cats and had recently been adopted. What are the odds of adopting two cats one from a shelter one from an individual and my own two cats who were half brother being Felv positive. My cats were indoor outdoor friendly cats who ate from the same bowls . I also have another cat who is related from yet another litter, she is negative. The older cats faired the best. I am talking 7 years or older. I also think at least 2 maybe three cats had at least one vaccination against Felv that would have been 6 yrs ago. I say probably 4 because the 1st cat to die had symptoms and died at the vet's office after two days of IV antibiotics. He was anemic and jaundiced. He crashed during the night. He did not know who I was it was heart breaking. Pumpkin was not tested, but I feel he was FeLV positive. He was adopted last March. Junior who was being treated for anemia went back to his vet two days later bc of my concern about Pumpkin's death being related. Junior who tested negative about 6 months prior was now positive and had a temp of 106.5. The other two cats who tested positive were adopted that same year after my precious Fluffy was PTS for bone cancer. I still have another cat from the same mother. She was negative. I do not plan to retest unless the other cats show symptoms. The negs were all vaccinated. This all occurred last year. I think at least two cats caught the virus from the others. If not I was unlucky to have adopted two sick cats and have two sick cats. Just the facts at my household. I don't know if this still fits your theory. Junior has his needle aspiration of the lymph nodes tomorrow. Here's hoping it's just and infection. He is experiencing discomfort. Junior has been to the vet and is on Baytril. She will call me back later with results. A cursory exam showed inflammatory tissue and fatty tissue. She may go ahead and send the needle aspiration off to the lab. I am having problems with my computer and was not able to send the email last night. Keep good thought for Junior. Sally On 3/13/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if anyone out there has any reliable statistics on how many cats tested negative for FELV,,and then after living with positive kitties converted i would sure like to know, i just have this gut feeling that it is so very very few. i think frequently one cat may be positive and the others never tested unless they become ill and wow,,,they are positive,,and yet they may have been positive all their lives but just asymptomatic, Those are the valuable statistics..those are the statistics that cause healthy FELV cats to be PTS ( killed) most of us here seem to have the experience of no transmission in adult cats, The only way to be sure is if a cat was once negativeTHEN became infected,,,and positive, Kelly
Junior's tests
For some reason I did not see an earlier post I made. Maybe it is just how gmail organizes. Sorry if this duplicates the prevoius post. Anyway, Junior had his needle aspiration of his lymph nodes. A quick look indicated inflammatory tissue and fatty tissue. Dr Staunton was going to look at it again later today. I did not hear back from her so I am pretty sure she sent the sample to the lab. She put Junior on Baytril in case it is from infection. If he has lymphoma she may do Metacam on him. I understand there are risks with cats and this drug. The Feline Lymphoma group did not understand the choice of drug. I do know she does not want to use traditional drugs that would suppress his immune system. Junior was actually better after his visit today even though he was stuck a couple times. I think he likes Dr Staunton. He must be a ladies man. The choice of Metacam is bc it has anti inflammatory properties as well as anti tumor properties. Anyone here have any ideas about this drug. I am still hoping it is just infectio, which is bad enough. Thanks for all your prayers. Sally
Re: Junior's tests
I will search the archives. I sometimes forget about that resource. I google all the time so go figure. In my googling a related drug came up s anti tumorous properties, Piroxicam . She had also mentioned that drug as well. Thanks Sally On 3/17/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just reposted belinda's info and links on metacam in cats--it should show up momentarily; if it doesn't, go back to last july and find the original.. On 3/17/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:11 AM 3/17/2007, you wrote: I had some at home, but decided not to use it on the catsThe benefits did not seem to outweigh the risks, at least to me, Kelly Sally, I have heard people here use the word Metacam before. I would put the subject heading as 'Metacam?' or something similar, and resend this email. It will catch the attention of those who have used Metacam. Let us know what the vet/lab says about Junior's results. Good luck. :) Wendy Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.12/724 - Release Date: 3/16/2007 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT: Use of Metacam with cats ** Could be very dangerous
I know the vet is aware of the danger of this drug. That is why she wanted me to read up on it. At this point I do not know what is causing Juniors lymph nodes to be swollen. I guess I will find out in a few days. I know she will call an oncologist if it proves to be Lymphoma. So we will have a better understanding of what drug choices there are. I need to serch more in the archives. Although I think I did this a while back. Thanks Sally On 3/17/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: repost of last year's metacam info -- Forwarded message -- From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 25, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: OT: Use of Metacam with cats ** Could be very dangerous To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Feline Lymphoma Group feline_lymphoma@yahoogroups.com *This was on the CRF list I'm on and I wanted to pass it on as an FYI:* (http://www.persiancats.org) posted some important safety information regarding the use of Metacam in cats on July 17, 2006. Metacam is associated with a high risk of kidney failure in cats: The narrow safety margin in cats is reflected in the FDA's Adverse Drug Experience (ADE) reports for Metacam Oral, which summarize drug side effects reported by veterinarians. Of 842 reports for dogs, 19 cases of kidney failure and no deaths were reported. However in 320 cats, 105 cases of kidney failure, 48 deaths and 35 cases resulting in euthanasia have been reported. This clearly indicates that Metacam poses a much greater risk in cats than in dogs. The pdf file, Metacam Risks in Cats, is available at: http://www.persiancats.org/nss-folder/filefolder/MetacamRisksInCats.pdf Some additional anecdotal information is also available at: http://www.persiancats.org/gridlayout/ Unfortunately, some veterinarians have been prescribing Metacam to be used multiple times after dental procedures and for arthritis even though the manufacturer has discouraged multiple use of the medicine. Only the injectable kind is approved for use with cats, and only once. The oral suspension was not approved for use with cats. I don't think I'd feel comfortable using this ever, just wanted to pass it on as it was being discussed recently -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com http://hostdesign4u.com/ BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: RE: Need to place Chief ASAP
Steph, I am reading this thread and I know you are in pain over the situation. I wish you well. You are an angel for doing your best. I am doing my best as well. Even if I had unlimited funds, I don't know how much it would change the outcome here. I do not know what you are going through as I cannot walk in your shoes or even pretend to walk in your shoes. I will pray for strength to get you though this. I wish I could help with Chief. I live in VA, but I do not have resources to treat another cat. I sometimes think my Tiny left me so Junior could get more treatment. Both cats were being treated with Immunoregulin. Take care... Sally On 3/17/07, Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I've offered anyone to email me privately to learn more about my situation. Instead you choose to belittle and question me on a public list.
Junior update-not Lymphoma
Hi Everyone I called the vet today regarding the needle aspiration of the lymph nodes. She is confident that it is not Lymphoma. He has fatty tissue and nutrophils indicating inflammation from infection. The Baytril will help with the infection. She gave him a months supply. I reordered his Transfer Factor Plus. I think that has helped keep him stable. I must say Junior is quite the fighter. His lymph node behind his ear has been swollen for a while. The swelling would usually go down at night. He seems to has less sight than before. Most of the swelling is on the side of the good eye. I am hoping his lack of sight is temporary. The Matacam, she would only give twice a week and would be given to further reduce inflammation and pain. She wants to give the Baytril time to work before possibly using the Metacam. I feel better that Junior has seen Dr Staunton. Thanks for all your prayers and help. The Fight goes on…. Sally Davis
Re: Junior update-not Lymphoma
Hi Elizabeth, Yes I am relieved, although he is fighting an infection. So we do need your prayers. He seems to be feeling better after 4 days of baytril. Thanks, Sally and Junior On 3/19/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VERY encouraging -- thanks for the update! Prayers still going up for you and Junior. elizabeth
Re: Fred - Crisis, prayers needed please
Hi Belinda I just got home from work. I will be praying for Fred and crossing finger. You are such and angel and support fir me and Junior. Thanks for all your help. Sally On 3/22/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Fred my CRF furkid is having some problems, I took him in to the vet last night because he gave out a meow that sounded like nothing he has ever done before and when he tried to stand and walk he did about a half turn and then plopped back to the rug and his front feet were twitching. He's been twitching off and on for a while. He's been on Norvasc for high blood pressure for a while but apparently his dose is no longer high enough, his BP was 230 at the vets yesterday. I called the vet in while he was twitching and she is very concerned about his BP, she told me to give him double his dose when I got home, he had already had his usual dose that morning. Then she said to give his regular dose in this AM and another dose in the afternoon today. He will get double what he's been getting from now on. I didn't feed or mess with him the rest of the night yesterday, and he twitched off and on all night. He was very unsteady on his feet and slept for the most part. This morning he is not himself still. He is not as unsteady and not twitching that I've noticed yet but seems very slow and just looks like he doesn't feel good. I gave him his metachloprimide and am going to feed him shortly, I'm going to wait and give him his BP med close to the time the vet opens so if I have to run him down they will be open, they open at 6:30AM, it's 6AM now. Please pray that whatever is going on, hopefully it is just his BP and the increased BP meds will control it, if not, that whatever it is we'll figure it out and can help him feel better. He looks the worse he ever has since this all started. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com
Re: Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long]
Hi Belinda I am not sure how to tell you to deal with your vet and your anger. I have a hard time with these issues as well. I like Junior's vet Dr Staunton. It is just I am not always able to get into see her. Dr Larrick is a country vet doing what country vets do. He admistered first aid. He is not vaccination crazy so he does not push them. I get the feeling for the most part he does not thinkl annual vaccinations are neccessary. He is a better vet for well visits. After a week on Baytril Junior's appetite is returning. I had a pet communicator speak to him the other day and she said he was weak and hollow. He said his food tasted bland. She did not know I had bought different food bc I was not where I could get his regular food. Needless to say I went by Petsmart when I got off work and got his Natural Choice, not in the recall. He does not like chunks, thank God. This morning his appetite was back. He got his wet food with supplements and then went on to eat dry food. Which he has not done for a while. Keep the prayers and good vibes for Junior as I will do for Fred and all the rest of our precious cats in need. Good Luck with the visit. Sally and Junior On 3/23/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I'm really struggling to keep my anger under control. Fred as you know has not been doing well the last few days and I took him in Tuesday and found out his blood pressure is sky high again. Well while I was there I asked the vet if she had checked his tube entry site because for the last week there have been several occasions when I thought I felt some swelling again, but at other times I wasn't sure. Well she assured me she had and it was fine ... last night I was scratching him under his chin and found a huge lump under there again, NO mistaking it there was something there!!! Well I guess I know now part of the reason he is feeling so crappy and not bouncing back. Those who have read my last few messages about our situation know about us battling this infection for about a month and a half. They were giving me clavamox even though the second time it came back he had been on and still was on it for 2 weeks. I'm so upset and angry I am really going to be struggling to not go in there and start screaming at everyone! *The vet I saw Tuesday obviously flat out lied to me, there is NO way she could have checked the site like she said and missed that.* Fred has been miserable more often than not for over a month and a half because of this infection. He's very depressed now and it's going to make it that much harder to get him over this now. I have an appointment at 11:30 just to check his blood pressure, I made it before I found the lump, but am calling the second they open and telling them I want to see Dr. Munson the minute she walks in the door, her first appointment will have to wait, as far as I'm concerned this is an emergency and this time they are going to get it right The lump is three bigger than it has ever been and I know Fred is fed up and feeling pretty crappy, I hope he can find the fight to get over this hump, please, please send him prayers for strength and the will to keep fighting. My question, how do I go in there and remain sane, rational and control myself because I just want to go in there and tell everyone how incompetent I think they are but NOT before we get this infection dealt with and under control?? Please pray that I can control myself so I can get the care Fred needs. The vet I'm seeing today is one of two I haven't seen while we have been dealing with all this so hopefully she will earn my trust and know what the hell she is doing. Help me guys get my state of mind in a positive frame, it is going to be really hard this time! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.com
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
HI Thanks for the update. Here I am feeding a sick cat and have to worry about poisoning him. I know the cat food I feed Junior has some varieties produced at Menu foods. Now I am reading labels to make sure there is no wheat. Now just a thought about the toxicity of this compound. The was in wheat, and a small amount of wheat goes into the production of cat food, the wheat must have had a large amout of poison in it to cause acute renal failure in some animals. Scary to say the least. Hoping everyone is safe. Sally And Junior On 3/23/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Junior update-not Lymphoma
Hi Tonya, Thanks... The swelling in the lymph nodes has gone down. so I guess it was infection after all. Still not sure where it originated. The most swelling was on his left side. I do not think his teeth are involved. This is just another battle in the war. Sally and Junior On 3/25/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you have some good news, Sally. Go Junior! Go Junior! tonya
Re: Fred Update
Hi Belinda Sending positive vibes to you and Fred. My vet told me how bad the Clindamycin tasted so I expected a struggle. Junior doesn't even flinch when he gets it. He is pretty good about taking everything. I give him something like sour cream after the vile tasting stuff to cleanse his palette. Hugs Sally and Junior On 3/28/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First I want to thank everyone for the prayers and positive energy ... well my boy Fred has taken the decision out of my hands for the moment ... he pulled his tube out today!! I have an appointment at 8:40AM to see if we can put another one in but I already know what they are going to tell me because the infection isn't cleared up yet. So I'm pretty sure we'll have to wait 2 or 3 weeks for it to heal up completely, this will be hell because Fred is not eating enough and now I will have a difficult time giving him his meds that he really needs on top of that ... he absolutely must have his blood pressure meds so it will be a tussle every morning. He also needs his potassium because he was getting weak in the back end because his potassium was low. All his kidney values are almost normal again and now they will get out of wack again. All the weight he's put back on will disappear ... I'm so upset. Fluids are no problem but even getting him to take his antibiotic which I didn't give him this evening, it's clindamicin, absolutely horrible tasting, it's one thing to give it to him through his tube but there is NO way I will make him take that. I will get clavamox again tomorrow in pill form. I can get the pills in him, it's just getting him to drink or eat a little something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his throat, that is the problem. I'm so disgusted and upset with this whole ordeal, it's been traumatic and problematic from the start, I really feel once he got the infection they just didn't give him meds long enough for it to completely clear up and it's been a nightmare since. They don't seem to realize he is older, with existing health problems and needs meds longer to get over any additional health issues. I will have the fishmox in a few days and he is going to get them for 3 or 4 weeks or longer, we're not doing this any longer, he has been miserable for too long!! Well I'll give you an update tomorrow, gotta go pick the food up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
Elizabeth, I just got home from work to read this sad news. I believe you heard purrs and it was Mama kitty. She was a special girl and is whole and healthy again. Hugs Sally, Junior, Tiny(angel), Pumpkin(angel), Lionel(angel), Fluffy(angel) and all the rest of the angels from my household. On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth
Re: Margarita Please add to CLS
Hi sherry So sorry to hear about Margarita. Hugs to you Sally On 4/1/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we lost another little orange girl.Margarita wasn't with us long,she loved people but not other cats.She loved sitting in our laps and purring like crazy.Jen said she had her with her through the night and cuddled with her.I guess her abdomen filled with fluids. Sherry -- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49936/*http://videogames.yahoo.com
Re: Too much bad news
Jennifer I am so sorry tp hear of Midnight's passing. He loves you so much to be secure to be next to you. One of my earlier soul kitties would have died by my side except I could not bear to see him suffer. He did not leave my side for the last days of his life. There was nothing the vet could do. This was many years ago before there was much testing and vacinating for FeLV, but that is what he had. He too was a solid black cat. Sincerely, Sally On 4/2/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to add to the bad news but I just want everyone to know that I lost Midnight over the weekend. He had started throwing up a lot on Thursday. He seemed a little slower than normal but he had no other symptoms. I woke up Sunday morning about 4 am to find him curled up beside me but he was gone. Thank you to everyone on this list. You have all been so great and helpful. Jennifer Madon
Re: Stamp tried to play today!
Wendy Stamp woohoo!!! So glad to hear stamp is feeling better.Behavior is a good indicator in my opinion. Junior too is feeling better wants to rub up against you spastically like he used to before FeLv. He also is finally not rough looking. His fur looks like it used to he is grooming again.He is on his 3rd week of Baytril w/ probiotics added so no runny poop. Due to his limited eyesight, he has moved into Eric's room. The other cats cannot bother him there. Eric loves him. I get to be the bad guy as usual. Glaucoma Someone asked about glaucoma, Junior has this in one eye. So far we are not removing the eye as he does not seem to be in pain from it. My cat Fluffy also has glaucoma from a traumatic injury. The eye was removed he let me know that it hurt. I think it would depend on why your cat had glaucoma to begin with. I cannot see it spreading to the good eye. Like the group said a blind cat does just fine. I know Junior sees very little and nothing closeup. He only sees movement. He does fine. He is just leery of the other cats now. I have 7 more that come inside and one outside cat. Thanks for such a caring group. Sally On 4/6/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beth, It's reassuring to hear that Stamp is still playing. You just never know. Sometimes life surprises us. :) Wendy --- Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went home at lunch and was putting on my necklace and he swatted at it! He has been hiding so much lately and his belly is getting so big and I can tell his anemia is getting worse because he licks the floor and mortar around the fireplace. I had given up hope he would last through the week. I've never kept an FIP kitty alive this long once they started to show signs. But then they were shelter cats and the choice was not mine. I guess it is not really mine with this foster, either, but the shelter is letting me decide. I hope I'm not waiting too long. He still eats, buit I had a kitten with a belly the size of a baseball once and he still ate, too. Beth - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: Please say a prayer for the cats
Hi Marylyn, My thought as well. The fire started in the laundry room maybe it smoldered first. I am sorry so many kitties lost their lives and glad the firemen risked their lives for the dogs. sally On 4/7/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may or may not help..if they died of CO2 they died gently. I pray this is what happened. They went to sleep quickly and did not know what was happening. Blessings to all the little souls that left. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Please say a prayer for the cats Patti, We found out a couple of hours ago that over 100 cats perished. 5 fireman were hurt getting the dogs out, and they did save a few cats. The dog area was away from the start of the fire. Apparently, the fire started near the cat area, and the fire was so bad when they got there, that the roof collapsed. If ANY good can come from this, it will be that they can rebuild with the inserance $ and with the support of the community, build a state of the art center. The building was so old, but they had fixed it up really cute. What a crappy time to have this happen...kitten season. The newspaper made it sound better than it was. My friend Bill went up there to check on some cats, and got this straight from the staff there. I am hugging mine extra today. Dede --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, I'm in tears [again] it also breaks my heart. Please know my prayers are right there too. (Also praying for a miracle...) Hugs, Patti her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today
Hi Cassandra, Tomi looks like my Tiny who passed this past Christmas day. Tiny liked to cuddle with Ittle Bitty just like your Tomi and Kisa. They are both beautiful. Sally On 4/14/07, C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg Cassandra
Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs
I had a close call with our dryer years ago. It caught fire at the outlet. Loose connection. We were at home so not damage to the house. Only I went w/o a dryer for year bc I could not afford to have the outlet replaced. I have since moved into a house but I will not leave the house with the dryer running. I never thought of the dishwasher. I am usually home when I run it . I Will think twice before leaving it running. I am glad more kitties made it out as well. Sally and Junior On 4/15/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, An addition to the warning to never leave a dryer running while away: never leave your dishwasher running while you're gone either! It can also catch fire. My apartment complex ten years ago experienced this exact thing, and I didn't believe it until I actually spoke with a fireman who verified it. So happy they found more kitties alive!!! That fireman probably saved their lives! I am going to send him snail mail tomorrow. :) Wendy --- dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am heading for bed, but I just called a friend who is a HS volunteer. He was working with them to find homes for 4 feleuk+ cats. He said Scooter was an orange tabby? Right now he has no info, but the cats were housed in a room near the cattery. This morning they found a cat sitting on top of the rubble. Later today they discovered a black kitten peeping through the rubble. Later a large gray one came running out of the woods and sat where his cage had been. He was VERY hungry! These 3 are fine. That brings the total to at least 11 who have survived. 4 of the survivors are in critical care, and the local vets have all chipped in with supplies. The other cats that did survive have all been adopted by volunteers saying they will never be in a cage again The young fireman who was hurt did not leave when the command was given. They ran through the cat area opening cages, then smashing windows and breaking open doors trying to shoo them out. He went back in the last time to grab 2 puppies, and the roof caved in on him. I will tell you how to contact him tomorrow. Fire started in the dryer. Word is that either lint caught fire, or the timer failed and it overheated. Never leave a dryer on when you're away! Will keep you posted. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Please add Simms to the Candlelighting Ceremony on Monday
Dear Anne Simms reminds me of mt precoius Tiny. They are up there playing together. I am very sad for your loss. What a wonderful companion he was. Thanks for sharing. Sally
