[Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread dppl dppl
I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.___
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread dppl dppl
 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.



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Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.___
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dppl dppl
I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe because 
I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed this 
stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her office) 
 told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols about 
retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test but the 
other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if the kitten 
is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on the internet 
about waiting a longer period to see if the
 cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest 
protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back negative after 
retesting and this gave me hope.
 
  Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to the 
vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and tell me 
what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  I took 
care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure for a year, 
including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping separate and fear of 
spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 cats were former 
strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. I got them 
sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them inside and 
figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they had 
something they all probably had it by then.  I've
 had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I 
live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with 
stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those that take positive 
cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in 
strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise 
test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will 
not return them to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have 
experience treating cats with this illness. 
 
Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further comment.



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Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home

Re: [Felvtalk] testing cats

2011-11-18 Thread dppl dppl
to Sheryl:  I can't figure out how to reply to your msg but in that doc you 
linked to, is this the most current protocol?  If I understand correctly, it 
says that you don't vaccinate until you get test results.  well, my vet 
thinking the cat was healthy, went ahead and vaccinated, even after I asked if 
we should wait for the results.  so how does this affect this cat including 
future testing? I read somewhere that the vaccination can result in the cat 
testing positive but i can't sort out what is current and what is not.  I can't 
believe a vet would be so careless to recommend testing and then go ahead and 
vaccinate before getting the test results if it affected future test results or 
the health of the cat .  I really appreicate anyone who can add to this 
discussion, either based on info you found , your vets info or your actual 
experience.  I am not feeling too comfortable now about having this kitten 
already vaccinated before the positive
 results were known.




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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: testing cats


As I continue to try to learn as much as possible about this illness and 
testing the kitten I found,
I came across this post on the Best Friends site questioning the testing 
process.  I was wondering if
anyone had any comments on its contents?Thanks
 http://network.bestfriends.org/groups/smitten_by_kittens/pages/feline-leukemia-testing-why-are-you-wasting-your-money.aspx___
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[Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread dppl dppl
I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.___
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread dppl dppl
Thanks for your replies. Lynda, sorry to hear about your cat.  That's what I 
fear.
 But I do agree as he gets older and is not neutered, he will become very 
frustrated.
 It is bad enough he can't be with other cats.  When I first called, I was told 
they 
won't do the surgery b/c of fear of spreading disease in their facility. That 
sounded
wrong since arent' they supposed to use sterile procedures and keep animals in 
surgery
separate? So I called again and a different person told me the reason was 
liability. That 
doesn't sound right either since they make you sign a form accepting risk. This 
is a facility
that euthanizes feral positive cats upon testing when brought for sterilzation 
unless theperson
bringing the cat in takes it back unsterilzed. I do have a private vet but she 
has seen only one 
cat test positive  in her practice t so I'm not sure if she would know about 
risks. 
   


 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: neutering a positive cat
 

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.___
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread dppl dppl
I can't wait until they perfect non surgical sterilzation of animals.  I 
suppose they will be other issues though as they always is with drugs, etc.  
But maybe not. This site 
http://www.spayusa.org/main_directory/04-sterilization_methods/nonsurgical/index.asp
 
says they are working on non surgical sterilzation.___
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[Felvtalk] Neutering a positive cat update

2012-02-22 Thread dppl dppl

 My little found positive kitten, now growing cat I found was neutered last 
week. He came thru ok.  As a precaution, 
the vet gave fluids during the surgery b/c his bloodwork showed slightly 
elevated in one of the kidney function
areas which the vet thought might be due to dehydration.
Sadly, he tested positive under the IFA test after testing positive under ELISA 
in Nov. But he seems ok. Unfortunately
I have to keep him isolated. Both tests were sent out, the ELISA cost 55 and 
the IFA 85. 
Is this the norm? If I didn't have other cats, I don't think I 
would do routine testing if the cat was not showing any symptoms and i kept the 
cat indoors.___
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[Felvtalk] Tips to share?

2012-02-22 Thread dppl dppl
On a different subject thought I might share this 
 
Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , 
it
seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being 
transferred 
from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with 
antibiotics
and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed
sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or 
twice . I am not a vet so
if you are thinking of trying this,. 
Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's 
specific condition..
one of the sites mentioning honey is 
mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630
has anyone else had experience with this home remedy?
Cat with upper respiratory infection:
I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think 
it really helped.___
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[Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-24 Thread dppl dppl
Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of
vicks vapor rub on the nose of  my cat that had the respiratory infection . I 
tried 
Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of
the purina one  dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was 
good but
after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the 
tuna
and chicken best or plain tuna.  I tired purina one canned but they
don't really like it that much. They like some of
the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer 
they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the junk food. I give
them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair
years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of
my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed
at the  mouth so I just gave up.  I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in
alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it
with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed
fewer fleas so i will keep trying. 
Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard
pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use
Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. 
 


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Tips to share?
  

On a different subject thought I might share this 

Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , 
it
seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being 
transferred 
from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with 
antibiotics
and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed
sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or 
twice . I am not a vet so
if you are thinking of trying this,. 
Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's 
specific condition..
one of the sites mentioning honey is 
mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630
has anyone else had experience with this home remedy?
Cat with upper respiratory infection:
I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think 
it really helped.___
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[Felvtalk] Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in lungs

2012-03-03 Thread dppl dppl
I have been posting here about a positive kitten I found but now need
help with my 13 year old cat.  In summary, can anyone direct me to
a website discussion group on topic realted to fluid in lungs to help
me  Details are:I took her to the vet today b/c she
had a discharge from her eye  wasn't eating too much. Since I
had just had two other cats treated for upper respiratory infection
I thought she had it now. The vet said no fever, heart sounded ok
 and since bloodworkwas done 11 months ago I agreed to bloodwork.
She suggested chest x ray but didn't indicate reason other than
part of complete workup.  When they went to draw blood she stopped
and said my cat was turning blue. So she said instead first do an x ray.
x ray showed fluid in lungs with only small portion clear. She said 
could be cancer, fip, heart problems but needed more diagnostics.
She does not have ultrasound so after a try to get sample with
needle stopped to not distress cat. She suggested euthanizing cat
right there.Since I had not noticed panting or heavy breathing, other
than what i thought was cold related last day(no panting) just
congestion, I could not bring myself to put her to sleep. Cat had
recovered and was not blue.So she
gave her a shot of lasix  antiobiotics. When I got my cat home
she ate, drink and has urinated twice in last 3 hours. She doesn't seem 
in distress no panting but vet said she is breathing from stomach.I need
guidance about symptoms and treatment/diagnosis course i should now
take. And whether lasix alone will remove fluid.___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in lungs

2012-03-03 Thread dppl dppl


 Melinda, thanks for taking the time to respond so quickly.
My fear is, if this vet didn't want to draw blood since she
said cat's gums started turning blue, how will she 
endure further testing?  How much stress
should I put her through? She was born to a feral cat, I have had her over 
13 years she is tame for me, but freaks out when i try to put her in carrier .___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in lungs

2012-03-04 Thread dppl dppl
Thanks again to all who are replying.  Marta, I didn't see the cat turn blue
thevet told me this happened when they took her in the back to draw blood.
she came out and told me this  suggested an x ray instead. Right now, it
has been 1.5 days since vet visit and she is on lasix twice a day after one 
injection also in office. She also had a convenia two week antibiotic shot.
She didn't have any panting or severe (to my observation) dificultity in 
breathing
other than she seemed to have the sniffles and some discharge from eyes . I 
assumed
she caught what my other three cats were treated for this month: upper 
respiratory
infection. They all are doing fine. That's why i was in shock yesterday when vet
told me i should seriously consider putting her to sleep right then. I couldn't 
do it
b/c that morning, she had eaten (not as much as usual), drinking water, peeing. 
didn't see
any panting. Right now she is sleeping peacefully.  She ate small amounts about 
4 times
today, is peeing alot and drinking water. She is cleaning herself and even took 
a small
walk in the enclosed cat yard. I notice a small amount of mucus coming out
of her nose, just a little when she sniffles. 
Jennie, i am so sorry to hear about your cat. I had a cat about 6 years ago 
that died of this.
Again, I had no clue about this disease. .Your information was very helpful 
about lasix
and fluid accumulation. I am sure, but I was in shock at the time, the vet said 
fluid was
in the lungs but from the x ray, she couldn't even see her heart. I am praying 
that my 
cat just has an infection. but i know i have to plan now what to do. I'm not 
sure I would
put her through much. just maybe keep her comfortable and as long as she is 
eating. I 
will call the vet monday and report on her condition and maybe if she is still 
doing
fairly ok, ask for more lasix pills. she only gave me 10. I have to take this 
one day at 
a time. Thanks again. It is comforting to know there are others who understand 
what it is like to
get bad news. She is such a sweet cat.  I don't consider her feral really even 
if born to feral. She is just
afraid of strangers. She is one of three kittens I rescued from the feral 
mother's litter. I have her 
brother and her sister. The sister loves her so much. sits with her and they 
groom each other. the 
brother is a big pest to them.
 
 
 


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Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 5:23 PM
Subject: Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in lungs
  

I have been posting here about a positive kitten I found but now need
help with my 13 year old cat.  In summary, can anyone direct me to
a website discussion group on topic realted to fluid in lungs to help
me  Details are:I took her to the vet today b/c she
had a discharge from her eye  wasn't eating too much. Since I
had just had two other cats treated for upper respiratory infection
I thought she had it now. The vet said no fever, heart sounded ok
 and since bloodworkwas done 11 months ago I agreed to bloodwork.
She suggested chest x ray but didn't indicate reason other than
part of complete workup.  When they went to draw blood she stopped
and said my cat was turning blue. So she said instead first do an x ray.
x ray showed fluid in lungs with only small portion clear. She said 
could be cancer, fip, heart problems but needed more diagnostics.
She does not have ultrasound so after a try to get sample with
needle stopped to not distress cat. She suggested euthanizing cat
right there.Since I had not noticed panting or heavy breathing, other
than what i thought was cold related last day(no panting) just
congestion, I could not bring myself to put her to sleep. Cat had
recovered and was not blue.So she
gave her a shot of lasix  antiobiotics. When I got my cat home
she ate, drink and has urinated twice in last 3 hours. She doesn't seem 
in distress no panting but vet said she is breathing from stomach.I need
guidance about symptoms and treatment/diagnosis course i should now
take. And whether lasix alone will remove fluid.___
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