Re: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of my

2014-01-04 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Czadna

You have my condolences on the loss of your Shallie Marie.  It always hurts
to lose a beloved feline friend.  May your good memories and the love
between you help heal your heart.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 11:54 AM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of my

 

*   six that tested positive in March 2010.
*
*   Thanks for being with us - - lights in the darkness.  I had
suspected she was crashing.  Vets thought it was dental . . .   two weeks
later.  will leave it there.
*
*   Now she joins her intrepid son Isaac, Mama and Luscious, Torie Rose
and BreAnne.  

cz

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Re: [Felvtalk] Adopting

2013-11-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Good for you for keeping her.  You'll have a friend for life!
Bonnie

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On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Kristi Stringer kristi.stringer@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I just found out that the cat i am adopting has Felv but have decided to give 
 her a loving home anyway  Working with retrovirises is part of my job {in 
 humans } so i feel like i could provide her with the love and care she needs. 
 Any advice asbo begin this journey?
 
 Currently she is symptomatic
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] dermatitis, steroids, and FeLV+ cats

2013-11-05 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lance
I had a cat with perseveration licking who removed all the fur under her front 
leg.  No one ever found a root cause and the only thing the vet could think 
of was a steroid shot.  That was 23 years ago!  My Martha did not have FeLv 
that we knew of.  She lived to be nearly 21 years old.  The steroids helped but 
did not cure her problem.  This doesn't directly answer your question, but I 
offer it in case it helps. Your obvious care for Ember is so touching.  Best of 
luck.
Bonnie

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On Nov 5, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 My Ember has had dermatitis for about two months now. A month ago, the vet 
 gave her a Convenia shot, and that didn’t seem to change things much. I gave 
 her 2mg of chlor trimeton twice a day for five days, and that hasn’t changed 
 anything substantially. She has lesions on her neck and shoulders, and there 
 also must be some near her backside, as she’s licked some hair off her legs, 
 lower tail, and stomach. 
 
 I should note that I’m 99.9% certain this has nothing to do with fleas. Ember 
 has no exposure to other animals or the outside (she’s isolated in a set of 
 rooms on the second floor of this house), I have seen no fleas on her, and I 
 haven’t had any jump on me. The vet found none on her when she went in a 
 month ago.
 
 I spoke to the vet today, and she mentioned that they usually give cats with 
 this type of dermatitis a steroid injection, but that she worries about doing 
 that to Ember, given her FeLV+ status. The vet did say that, rather than an 
 injection, we could try tablets. That would at least allow us to control how 
 much exposure Ember gets. Right now, this doesn’t seem to be 
 life-threatening. I’m wondering what others have done in this situation. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bunny Passed Away This Evening

2013-10-31 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lee

Condolences on the loss of your little Bunny.  Sounds like she had a good
life with you, Samson and Delilah.  You did all you could.   I wish you luck
in helping the others, and hope your heart break heals soon, through the
memory of your furry friend.

Peace

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:50 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bunny Passed Away This Evening

 

She came to me two and a half years ago when she was around 9 months old.
She had been abandoned at an apartment complex, rescued but then tested
FeLv+. She was brought to me to see if she would turn negative. She did! I
kept her anyway because she had a few bad habits, like biting my fingers
when I was sleeping and trying to tear apart my iPod headphones. She was
very mischievous. I named her Bunny because she was brought to me on Easter
Sunday.  She has lived with me and two other cats in my bedroom/home office
since that Easter in 2011. About two weeks ago I noticed a change in her
behavior. She no longer pestered Delilah, the resident female cat in the
room and she seemed to lose interest in sleeping on the bed with me and
Samson and Delilah (the two other cats in the room). However she was eating
normally and nothing else seemed out of place. I assumed that it was the
change in the weather from very hot to nice, cool evenings and then to rain.
On Saturday of last week she seemed lethargic. She was not eating her usual
amount of food and not drinking her usual amount of water. I checked her
gums to see if it might be stomatitis or some bad tooth upsetting her but
her gums were very pale and so was her tongue. I immediately thought it was
flea anemia. I took her to the vet on Tuesday because Monday is usually very
busy with dogs there. She was more lethargic and depressed by then and her
appetite had all but disappeared. She was still drinking water. She had no
fleas so I asked the vet to re-test her for FeLv. Sure enough, she was
positive. She had all the classic symptoms of active FeLv. I was heart
broken but still, I asked him to give her some meds to make her more
comfortable and perhaps get back her appetite. He gave her cortisone. Today,
she was no better. She just lay on her towel and couldn't make it to the
litter box although it was just a few steps away. I took her in again and he
gave her some fluids, not too much because he said it would make her even
more anemic. He gave her a little more cortisone to try to kick start her
appetite. I had been syringe feeding her by then. He also gave her a small
dose of Convenia and some B-complex but nothing helped. She passed several
hours after the vet visit. I probably should have had him help her pass but
I just didn't want to give up hope. 

 

There is a question here, in all this upsetting dialog. My other two cats
who slept with me and Bunny and groomed each other, ate with each other,
drank and used the same litter box are around 7 years old. The vet told me
that once they are into adulthood, they are not as likely to get FeLv as
they would if they were under 2 years old. Is this true? I will have them
tested in about 3 weeks anyway to see what happened, if anything. Also, has
anyone had the experience of a young cat throwing off the virus and turning
negative, then turning positive again after a year, or was that second test
after I had held her in isolation for 4 months a false negative?

 

Right now I'm fostering a kitten who has tested negative for FIV/FeLv. She
is several rooms away from where Bunny has lived. They never came in contact
with each other but I have walked from my bedroom into the kitten's room to
feed, clean, etc.. Did I put her at risk?

 

This is desperately upsetting. I have decided not to take in any more
fosters with FeLv. I have never had this happen before. Most of my turned
cats are still with me and are well into several years of adulthood. I
usually don't have good results with getting turned cats adopted because
most people don't want the possibility that the cat is harboring the
disease. Maybe Bunny had it in her bone marrow and tested negative on the
regular SNAP test. I should have tested with the IFA also but don't have
much money to spare. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] virus has finally caught up with her

2013-10-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Jennifer

I'm so sorry you had to go through this (both you and Sasha).  May it be of
comfort to know she is no longer suffering.

Peace

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Jennifer Ballew
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 4:16 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] virus has finally caught up with her

 

Lorrie-

Thank you for the kind words.  I debated back and forth, and after a
lnng discussion with the vet I decided putting her down was the best
thing for her.  I did what you did: gave her the best life I could, but let
her go when it was time.

Thanks again, 
Jennifer

On Oct 11, 2013 5:41 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

Dear Jennifer,

You did the right thing. I have had many FelV cats, and other
than giving fluids to make them more comfortable or taking care of
something like an infection that a vet can treat, I will NOT put a
cat of mine thru any heroic measures. I have tried assist feeding,
and I've watched them gag and try to get away from me. This is pure
torture for them as well as for me, the torturer. I know a lot of you
will disagree with me, but when a FelV cat becomes desperately ill I
put them down.  I give my FelV cats as good a life as I can while
they are alive and well, but when they are dying I let them go.
Thank you for making the brave decision you made.  You will miss
Sasha terribly, but you did the kindest thing you could for her.

Hugs for you from Lorrie

On 10-10, Jennifer Ballew wrote:
Put Sasha down today.  I think it was time.  :-(


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Re: [Felvtalk] virus has finally caught up with her

2013-10-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Well said, Kat.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
katskat1
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] virus has finally caught up with her

 

It kills a part of me every time I have to make that decision.  Just today
an elderly dog I cared for a great deal had to be helped across the Rainbow
Bridge because he had lost all control of his hindquarters and could no
longer pee or poop.  Rowdy was only with our rescue a year or so after his
humans could no longer deal with him but during that year he was a very
happy and loved old goof ball and I really think the attention he finally
received and the joy he had in his last year of life were a present we were
able to give to him.  In return he loved the heck out of us and life.  

 

So, while it hurts, remember the love you gave and the love you received and
be content in the belief you didn't allow it to drag on to where she would
have gone over the bridge with unhappy experiences being her last.  You did
the loving thing.  Thank you.

 

Kat

On Friday, October 11, 2013, Lorrie wrote:

Dear Jennifer,

You did the right thing. I have had many FelV cats, and other
than giving fluids to make them more comfortable or taking care of
something like an infection that a vet can treat, I will NOT put a
cat of mine thru any heroic measures. I have tried assist feeding,
and I've watched them gag and try to get away from me. This is pure
torture for them as well as for me, the torturer. I know a lot of you
will disagree with me, but when a FelV cat becomes desperately ill I
put them down.  I give my FelV cats as good a life as I can while
they are alive and well, but when they are dying I let them go.
Thank you for making the brave decision you made.  You will miss
Sasha terribly, but you did the kindest thing you could for her.

Hugs for you from Lorrie

On 10-10, Jennifer Ballew wrote:
Put Sasha down today.  I think it was time.  :-(


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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone Home?

2013-10-07 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I just figured our kitties are fine and we're hunkering down getting ready
for Fall!

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Beth
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone Home?

 

Yahoo. was having some problems a few weeks ago. 
Sometimes nobody, thankfully, is having any problems.
Sometimes no news is good news

 

 

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From: kat merrykatme...@email.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone Home?

 

I'm here - tho I mainly just lurk these days..

It has been quiet.

Kat (Mew Jersey)
 

 

- Original Message -

From: Lee Evans

Sent: 10/07/13 01:25 PM

To: Felvtalk

Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone Home?

 

I haven't received any messages from the group in over two weeks! Yahoo was
sending back my messages with the information that the address no longer
exists. What gives?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers

2013-09-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lee
Was grandma from the old country by chance?  Sounds like some ideas other
cultures might have.  The coffee actually doesn't sound half bad, but then I
always loved the skin on my hot chocolate as a kid.
The feathers?  Well, I'd have to be awfully hungry on that one...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers

Egads Lee, I'm sure you were not eager to visit granny!!


On 09-14, Lee Evans wrote:
Not kidding about the chicken feather soup. She also specialized in
coffee boiled with milk and coffee grounds. Then after a while, it
would form a leather skin on top and we had to cut through to the
coffee. Yech! Burned scrambled eggs, almost raw liver, black toast. I
would say that my grandmother was a very intelligent woman but not a
gourmet cook. My uncles cat loved the liver though.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers

2013-09-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
What a lovely memory, Lee.  And what a time that was.  Gone now!  You have
something to treasure there!  I envy that connection to European (or
Ashkenazim) roots.  Many of us are just non-descript white folks of vague
European peasant heritage (grin).  The salt of the earth - nothing to be
ashamed of!

Cheers!

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers

 

This was a long time ago, in the 1950's when there were still private
butchers and my grandmother would buy her chickens from the butcher who
would pluck them there in the store so some feathers were always left on.
Yes, she was from Odessa, Russia and only spoke German and Russian. She
would tell me (in German and broken English) that the coffee was a French
recipe. My grandfather had traveled all the way from France across Europe to
Russia. He was an itinerant philosophy professor and taught his way across
Europe at Universities. The French coffee was probably his idea. I was too
young to drink coffee but it was traditional to put some in my milk. Then I
would watch the coffee grains float. I loved my grandmother. She was very
kind to me and I loved visiting her because I could go through the
mysterious wardrobes and inspect the dresses and hats my aunt created. The
building was in an ethnic neighborhood in New York City, the doors were
never locked and people of every color and language were constantly walking
in and out, as were dogs and cats from the area. I picked up a rudimentary
understanding of quite a few languages before I was a teenager. There were
always strangers in the apartment having coffee or a meal and conversations
with my grandmother or my uncle and always some dog or cat being fed in the
hallway.   

 

 


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From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers


Lee
Was grandma from the old country by chance?  Sounds like some ideas other
cultures might have.  The coffee actually doesn't sound half bad, but then I
always loved the skin on my hot chocolate as a kid.
The feathers?  Well, I'd have to be awfully hungry on that one...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers

Egads Lee, I'm sure you were not eager to visit granny!!


On 09-14, Lee Evans wrote:
Not kidding about the chicken feather soup. She also specialized in
coffee boiled with milk and coffee grounds. Then after a while, it
would form a leather skin on top and we had to cut through to the
coffee. Yech! Burned scrambled eggs, almost raw liver, black toast. I
would say that my grandmother was a very intelligent woman but not a
gourmet cook. My uncles cat loved the liver though.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Charle

2013-09-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wow - good for you for doing right by Buttercup!  You'll go to heaven on
that one ;-)

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle

 

I don't know why some vets are so uninformed but I have had seemingly
intelligent vets tell me that this or that cat had FIP because the cat had a
high titer for the corona virus. This is NOT FIP. Many cats get a corona
virus. Some actually become ill from it but with regular symptoms of illness
- high fever, anorexic, lethargic but not the usual fluid filled chest
cavity that is one of the signs of FIP (but could also be heart disease).
FIP is not all that common in cats, even in strays. The few cats I rescued
with genuine FIP were NOT FeLv+ or FIV+. It seems to me that vets want to
blame every illness on cats who are positive for one of the combo test
disorders. Sometimes I suspect that the vets want to give us a reason to
dispose of the cat without having a guilty conscience since it's terminally
ill anyway. I had a cat with a high titer for the corona virus. She was
diagnosed with FIP. What she had was a high fever. She had a miscarriage
(pregnant stray calico, very friendly) in my backyard. She was burning up
with fever. They said to have her euthanized. I said no. They said FIP, I
said no. She had to be spayed on an emergency basis because the rest of the
fetuses were not alive. They returned a live almost bald skeleton cat to me
and told me she had about a 10% chance of living through the week because
she had FIP. I said she did not have it. Took home Buttercup, syringe fed
her for almost a month. Flea combed her every day in the isolation room she
inhabited in my house. She began eating on her own after a month. Her fur
grew back. She began high-jumping after bouncing balls. She grew fat. I took
her back for her rabies shot and vet was astonished. Said she had recovered
from FIP. I said she had recovered from a corona virus infection. She was
eventually adopted.My FeLv+ cats never had FIP. Some actually fought off the
FeLv virus and now test negative. Two passed away from the disease when it
became active.

 

 


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From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle




Hi Beth,

  That's new to me. Could you please point me towards more
information? I've had several cats diagnosed with FIP, and none were
confirmed, so I'm curious as to a possible link to FeLV. Might explain a few
things.

Thanks, 

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Aug 10, 2013 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle

FIP is common in FeLV cats

Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote:


 
Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did
an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said
it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of
Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that the Lasix
gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a
tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of
our babies. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans

2013-09-13 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Completely Funny!!  LOL!  ;-)

But the Politician Plate would be wy too fatty!

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans

 

Yum! And the choices for Population Control Pate can be Burglar Beef in
Gravy, Rapist Shreds and  WifeBeater Bits all formulated for nutritional
balance by Friskems Criminal Cat Food Company. And for the fat cat who
really loves Premium Food at a high price, you can have Politician Pate and
Pork Barrel Pork.

 

 


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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans


What a great idea, and not just naturally deceased humans for cat
food, but child molesters, rapists, etc.  Entirely too many humans
are degenerates who would make excellent cat chow!! 


On 09-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 and when do they start using deceased humans as an acceptable source of
 protein.  They already use animals euthanized by humane society.  I think
 it is time for God to put an end to us, we do not deserve to live on this
 beautiful planet that we are in the processing of destroying.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Gosh, thanks so much for the encouragement.  I just called  made an 
appointment to take Lucky back to the vet in 45 minutes.  

And I’ll join the FLUTD group – that will be helpful.

He’s on Uroeze because he didn’t like CD food formulated to help with 
this….maybe just straight canned Wellness or something.  Guess I can re-arrange 
feeding stations to accommodate a special dieter!

I thought the surgery he had three years ago would take care of all this but 
guess not.  He’s 14 years old and a very special cat to me – used to be my 
mother’s cat and she passed away almost 3 years ago, so he’s “my family.”  He’s 
a great tuxedo guy too, really smart.

Anyway, I’m worried and really want to help him.  He’s sure helped me and my 
family through tough times.

Thanks again, all.  Really appreciate your help!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

 

I agree, left alone the condition is lethal.

 

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals


Hi Bonnie,

So sorry that Lucky is having urinary issues.  If he is going in the litter box 
and crying, and not producing urine, I would take him
back in or call the vet immediately.  

Did he have the surgery to remove his penis, can't think of the name of it, 
sorry, 
or did he just have a blockage that was unblocked previously??  

If he can't pass urine, that is an emergency, or he could just have a lot of 
inflammation and/or bladder spasms, but this 
could lead to another blockage, so the sooner you treat this the better.  Is he 
urinating at all?

My cat, Jack, had a blockage about 4 years ago.  He only liked Royal Canin
Urinary SO canned of the 3 major brands that the vet suggested, including CD 
and Purina brands.  He had to go off of the canned Royal Canin because he has 
Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy and that food had way too much salt in it.  That's 
when I joined the yahoo group
on FLUTD cats and decided to go off of the vet formulas, and just feed canned, 
non fish or grain foods.

Here is the link to join  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FLUTD/  
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FLUTD/   you have to join to see messages.
That group has great info and support, I would encourage you to join.  It's a 
very active group, and a few of the most
knowledgable folks answer your questions very quickly.

Anyway, now I have Jack on canned meaty food, which I add even a little extra 
water too, no grain, and he does great on it.
There are other things to look at besides the crystals.  Like you said, stress, 
there is also just inflammation without bacteria, that
many cats are thrown on antibiotics for, even though they don't really have a 
UTI, bladder spasms, weak bladder wall, etc.  
The yahoo groups has a lot of super info on all these subjects and different 
treatment, many holistic.

Hope he starts to feel better soon, please call the vet to let her/him know 
what is going on.
Shelley



On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Poor Lucky.  He had a bad u.t.i. about 10 days ago.  Went to the vet; 
 crystals in urine (it’s happened before, in fact he had surgery to widen the 
 urethra).  Vet prescribed antibiotics (he just finished them today).  Also a 
 pill called “Uroeze” to help keep crystals from forming (3x daily!).  But he 
 is still having problems – pee spots around the house, he’s restless, just 
 tried to pee in the box but nothing.  I feel so badly for him -- he must be 
 uncomfortable.  And he looks at me a meows!  I hate to just run to the vet 
 (it stresses Lucky, he pants on the way home), but don’t know what to do.  He 
 won’t eat the CD food designed to reduce whatever causes the crystals.
 Any ideas?  I’d sure appreciate it, and so would Lucky!
 Thanks
 Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Great information, Margo.  Thanks a million!  I have some questions for my vet. 
 Lucky was on Antrobe Aquadrops for a u.t.i.

If it isn’t crystals, I wonder what it could be.  Maybe still u.t.i.?  the vet 
didn’t say anything about idiopathis cystitis (that I recall).

Lucky eats (as do the other 3 in the house) Evo turkey dry food – no grains.  
Another ver suggested it is a good all around cat food and she’s never seen a 
cat develop crystals on it.

I’m wondering if I should get another vet opinion…but this seems so 
straightforward (common?).

Thanks again

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

 

Hi Bonnie,

 I can relate. Two of my positives are also struvite crystal 
formers.Two main questions.

 What is he eating?

 Was a culture and sensitivity done to confirm actual bacterial 
infection, or did the Vet just prescribe abx, and what was Lucky taking? Uroeze 
is a urine acidifier, so I guess you're dealing with struvite stones. It's very 
unusual for a cat to block after PU surgery, so likely the crystals aren't the 
cause of his discomfort. Has your Vet mentioned Idiopathis cystitis?

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=612

 If he's taking the Uroeze, he should NOT eat c/d or 
any other food designed to prevent struvite crystals. That wouls be way to 
much, and push towards possible oxylate formation. He should eat exclusively 
canned food, but just regular grain free, high meat (no filler) food. If you 
prefer to have a prescription food rather than the uroeze, there are other 
brands that may be more palatable. Try different kinds.

Wishing you both the best,

Margo

  -Original Message- 
From: Bonnie Hogue 
Sent: Sep 10, 2013 11:37 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals 

Poor Lucky.  He had a bad u.t.i. about 10 days ago.  Went to the vet; crystals 
in urine (it’s happened before, in fact he had surgery to widen the urethra).  
Vet prescribed antibiotics (he just finished them today).  Also a pill called 
“Uroeze” to help keep crystals from forming (3x daily!).  But he is still 
having problems – pee spots around the house, he’s restless, just tried to pee 
in the box but nothing.  I feel so badly for him -- he must be uncomfortable.  
And he looks at me a meows!  I hate to just run to the vet (it stresses Lucky, 
he pants on the way home), but don’t know what to do.  He won’t eat the CD food 
designed to reduce whatever causes the crystals.

Any ideas?  I’d sure appreciate it, and so would Lucky!

Thanks

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[Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today.  The great news
is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does have some
arthritis in his back).  He has no apparent blockages (tumors) in his
urinary tract.  They did not see any crystals.  The vet did say his bladder
is very small and looks very inflamed.  So they gave him a shot of an
anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, he calmed down a lot, which
is good to see), gave him anti-biotic (suspected u.t.i.), anti-inflammatory
and an ocular anti-biotic/steroid for his runny (herpes) eye.   Poor little
dude, he sure went through a lot today!  Now he's home, getting
re-acquainted with the other cats and chilling.  Looks like I've got a FLUTD
feline here.  They gave me a prescription for another type of special food
(Royal Canine) which I'll try (he hates the CD).  Fingers crossed.

Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and
encouragements.  Lucky thanks you too!

Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I know, the food issue is and issue!  I would feed them frozen (thawed) mice
if I thought it'd keep them healthy!
No magic formula I guess.  When it comes down to it, human animals face
similar problems.  Our diet helps or hurts us, depending.
Bonnie

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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Struvite crystals have always been the cu;print here.

 Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I had been feeding them all EVO dry food.  I'm going to try Lucky on Royal
Canin SO diet (canned).  My fingers are crossed he'll eat it!
B.

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

no research, just an interview with the ceo and he said well it is protein.


i like the wellness turkey mostly because that is one T hey will eat.  they
also like Blue Buffalo duck and turkey.  NO ONE LIKES CHICKEN NO MATTER WHAT
THE BRAND.  BEEF IS SO, SO AND FISH JUST SITS THERE UNTIL I THROW IT OUT.
UNLESS I GET CANNED MACKERAL FOR HUMANS  THAT WE LOVE BECAUSE IT IS STINKY.

I SWITCHED TO BLUE BUFFALO BECAUSE OF THE GRAIN ISSUE.  WHEN I DID THAT, ALL
THE UP CHUCKING STOPPED, SO NOW, I LOOK FOR GRAIN FREE, MEAT FIRST
INGREDIENTS.
 Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 
  Hi,
 Could you provide a link to that? Or some other well documented
source coroborating that information?  I use RC SO when I need to add dry,
so I'd like to be informed, but that contradicts what my research has shown.

 Wellness foods have been implicated in the formation of
stones/crystals in some cats. 
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Sep 11, 2013 3:16 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky
 
 WATCH ROYAL CANNIN, THEY LIST AS FIRST INGREDIENT CHICKEN MEAL WHICH
THEIR CEO SAID ON TV INTERVIEW IS GROUND UP CHICKEN FEATHERS.  
 WELLNESS IS BETTER CHOICE.
 
  Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
  We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today.  The 
  great news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays 
  (he does have some arthritis in his back).  He has no apparent 
  blockages (tumors) in his urinary tract.  They did not see any 
  crystals.  The vet did say his bladder is very small and looks very 
  inflamed.  So they gave him a shot of an 
  anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, he calmed down a lot,
which is good to see), gave him anti-biotic (suspected u.t.i.),
anti-inflammatory
  and an ocular anti-biotic/steroid for his runny (herpes) eye.   Poor
little
  dude, he sure went through a lot today!  Now he's home, getting 
  re-acquainted with the other cats and chilling.  Looks like I've 
  got a FLUTD feline here.  They gave me a prescription for another 
  type of special food (Royal Canine) which I'll try (he hates the CD).
Fingers crossed.
  
  Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and 
  encouragements.  Lucky thanks you too!
  
  Bonnie
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks, Margo (and everyone who helped).  Lucky actually ate the RC s/o diet
tonight!  And he is at least going out to the cat boxes in the garage rather
than trying to pee in the house.  We have some anti-inflammatory to help
with his urgency I hope.
Hopefully we're crossing a bridge toward better health for Lucky!  I know I
can feed him separately, the problem is, the other cats still eat the dry
food, and I need to keep him out of it.
Wish us well!
Bonnie

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Margo
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky



Hi Bonnie,

Since there was no evidence of crystals, Id just go for a high meat
canned food (like the EVO 95% varieties), without the acidifiers. Using that
could incline him towards oxylate stones, which are much more difficult to
deal with.

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Sent: Sep 11, 2013 5:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

I had been feeding them all EVO dry food.  I'm going to try Lucky on 
Royal Canin SO diet (canned).  My fingers are crossed he'll eat it!
B.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

no research, just an interview with the ceo and he said well it is protein.


i like the wellness turkey mostly because that is one T hey will eat.  
they also like Blue Buffalo duck and turkey.  NO ONE LIKES CHICKEN NO 
MATTER WHAT THE BRAND.  BEEF IS SO, SO AND FISH JUST SITS THERE UNTIL I
THROW IT OUT.
UNLESS I GET CANNED MACKERAL FOR HUMANS  THAT WE LOVE BECAUSE IT IS
STINKY.

I SWITCHED TO BLUE BUFFALO BECAUSE OF THE GRAIN ISSUE.  WHEN I DID 
THAT, ALL THE UP CHUCKING STOPPED, SO NOW, I LOOK FOR GRAIN FREE, MEAT 
FIRST INGREDIENTS.
 Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 
  Hi,
 Could you provide a link to that? Or some other well 
 documented
source coroborating that information?  I use RC SO when I need to add 
dry, so I'd like to be informed, but that contradicts what my research has
shown.

 Wellness foods have been implicated in the formation of
stones/crystals in some cats. 
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Sep 11, 2013 3:16 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky
 
 WATCH ROYAL CANNIN, THEY LIST AS FIRST INGREDIENT CHICKEN MEAL WHICH
THEIR CEO SAID ON TV INTERVIEW IS GROUND UP CHICKEN FEATHERS.  
 WELLNESS IS BETTER CHOICE.
 
  Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
  We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today.  The 
  great news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays 
  (he does have some arthritis in his back).  He has no apparent 
  blockages (tumors) in his urinary tract.  They did not see any 
  crystals.  The vet did say his bladder is very small and looks 
  very inflamed.  So they gave him a shot of an 
  anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, he calmed down a 
  lot,
which is good to see), gave him anti-biotic (suspected u.t.i.), 
anti-inflammatory
  and an ocular anti-biotic/steroid for his runny (herpes) eye.   Poor
little
  dude, he sure went through a lot today!  Now he's home, getting 
  re-acquainted with the other cats and chilling.  Looks like I've 
  got a FLUTD feline here.  They gave me a prescription for another 
  type of special food (Royal Canine) which I'll try (he hates the CD).
Fingers crossed.
  
  Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and 
  encouragements.  Lucky thanks you too!
  
  Bonnie
  
 
 
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[Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-10 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Poor Lucky.  He had a bad u.t.i. about 10 days ago.  Went to the vet;
crystals in urine (it's happened before, in fact he had surgery to widen the
urethra).  Vet prescribed antibiotics (he just finished them today).  Also a
pill called Uroeze to help keep crystals from forming (3x daily!).  But he
is still having problems - pee spots around the house, he's restless, just
tried to pee in the box but nothing.  I feel so badly for him -- he must be
uncomfortable.  And he looks at me a meows!  I hate to just run to the vet
(it stresses Lucky, he pants on the way home), but don't know what to do.
He won't eat the CD food designed to reduce whatever causes the crystals.

Any ideas?  I'd sure appreciate it, and so would Lucky!

Thanks

Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Undesirable or just plain ugly cats

2013-08-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yep.  We loves 'em cuz they're there.  Hemi hisses at me when I come around
a corner too fast  startle her.  Princess eats and sleeps all day.  Will is
afraid of his shadow.  But as they are all rehabilitated ferals I figure,
Who Knows what trouble they've seen.  And I feel better seeing Hemi sleeping
in the shade in the yard, or Princess curled up in her bed on the couch, or
the lump of Will under the covers on my bed.  They may be crazy, but they
are safe and sound an provide good company and a few laughs!
Bonnie

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Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Undesirable or just plain ugly cats

Hey Lee,  You gave me a much needed laugh this morning, with your cat names.
Among my crew is a Fat Bastard who has been with us for 8 years now. The
thanks I get for rescuing him is getting bitten when I try to even briefly
pet him.  He is a miserable cat who bolts his food and then shoves his fat
face in the other cats food bowls forcing them to run for their lives.  I
keep him because I'm too tender hearted to get rid of him, but oh how I'd
love to find him a nice barn home.

Lorrie

 
On 08-14, Lee Evans wrote:
You really have to decide why you are testing. If a cat is ill with the
Mystery Illness, of course you need to run some tests to pinpoint what
may be the cause of the illness. If you are adopting out, you probably
should do a combo test without the heartworm part which I learned from
this list can screw up the results of the other tests in the combo.
However, if the 4 kittens mentioned have tested negative, I don't see
any reason why not to adopt out. Because, and this is important to
remember, the person wanting the kitten or a couple of kittens will get
a couple of kittens from someone, somewhere and that person probably
won't test at all, just advertise free to good home, healthy kittens.
As long as the test is not definitely positive, you can ethically adopt
out. I had an FIV+ cat who was not when I took him in. He was negative
but thin. I polished him up and fattened him up and took him for
adoption at the Humane Society here and they tossed him back to me as
FIV+. I retested and sure enough. He had been incubating it for the
months I had him fattening up and getting ready for his big day. Well,
I still have Lancelot, mixed in with my regular gang because that's how
he was when I took him home as a negative and he is still with me about
7 years later. Now, I know this is only FIV, not as serious as FeLv but
still. You can't predict the future as far as will the cat some day
turn positive for FeLv. You shouldn't spend much needed money testing
and re-testing to make all the planets line up correctly. My three
originally positive FeLv cats who turned negative are still with me. If
anyone had wanted the ugly mutts, I would have cheered and given them
away in a nanosecond. But no one wanted a dumb possum faced tabby or an
all black cat with a sort of snake like face or Percy who had an
attitude and lost the virus but not the attitude. Lest anyone try to
get on me for calling them ugly mutts, hey I call it like it is. That
doesn't mean I don't love them. I love ugly mutts the most. Even when
they are cats.
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

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Re: [Felvtalk] struggling tonight

2013-07-21 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Karen
Bless you for trying to help these creatures.  I offer you prayers and moral 
support!
Bonnie

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Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:39 PM
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Cc: Karen Harshbarger
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] struggling tonight

You have a lot on your plate.  My problems have always come one at a time.  
That has been frightening and frustrating enough.  I will keep you and all of 
your cats in my prayers, you need them.

 Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Hi,  I joined all of these group cause I have kittys with all of these 
 illnesses---one with CRF, 4 with feline leukemia, and little Tig that I lost 
 had very bad anemia/feline leukemia/upper respiratory/etc.etc. and 
 unfortunately I know that Anemia is probably coming for my 4 kittys with 
 feline leukemia---just a matter of when. My kitty with CRF has slight anemia. 
  I have 5 other cats that live with me and there are 2 little ones that 
 recently showed up on my patio.
 
 Tonight I am sitting up with one of my kitties that has feline leukemia 
because he is sick he is throwing up white bubbly phlem and would not eat 
tonight.  (before tonight, he was doing so good I thought that he might be one 
of the lucky ones that would fight off this awful illness before his second 
test)  
 
Cole is very sick and I am very very worried about him and just trying to 
figure out what I am going to do next so that I don't loose him like I lost his 
brother little Tig recently
 
As I read through all the posts I realize that there are a lot of caring people 
out there trying very hard to do what I am doingkeep their cats as happy 
and healthy as they can and with them as long as they can.  It is a good thing 
that there are so many caring people, but a sad thing that there are so many 
sick little cats.  .I also wonder how all of you afford to get all the tests 
and medicines, as I am really struggling with that and not sure how I am 
financially going to keep up and worry that I am not doing all that I can or 
should cause I can't afford to do all these expensive blood tests, etc or a 
regular basis. so that better diagnosis can be done.  I also worry that the 
vets around here are not up on all the latest things to help my little ones 
with all their illnesses.and that I am not smart enough to understand it all to 
figure out if the vet is doing the right thing.  I some times worry, especially 
nights like this when I sit up
  tired and very worried with a sick little cat that I did not know enough or 
 do enough for little Tig, causing him to leave this world at only 11 months 
 old.  I also worry that I am not giving these little guys all that they need. 
 
Would love hearing any suggestions.  Sorry about the rambling.  I am just 
struggling to find direction as I sit up with poor little sick Cole as he 
struggles with this awful illness.Thanks, Karen 
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Re: [Felvtalk] A Tribute to Polli

2013-07-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Amanda, your heart-felt words bring tears to my eyes.  A sweet tribute to a
deserving being.  Blessings to you and your wonderful man during this
difficult time.  And Polli.we know she now can be pain and disease free in
the land of rainbows.

Peace

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amanda K. Payne
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 7:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] A Tribute to Polli

 

It was just another hot August morning when our upstairs neighbors
frantically called my boyfriend.  He went out to see what was wrong and came
back, worried.  He told me I needed to come check something out.  Concerned,
I went into the foyer and frantically running around and mewing was a tiny
gray and white kitten with huge white paws. 

 

That was the morning we first met Polli.  She was dirty, blanketed with
fleas and had a terrible URI that had glued her little eyes shut.  Our
neighbors couldn't keep her due to a cat-aggressive dog and my boyfriend
wasn't a pet person who was absolutely against us having another cat.
However, we live in a city with high kill shelters and there was no way this
little cat would make it out alive.  Without a second thought, I rushed her
into our home and called the local vet.  I promised my guy that once she
recovered, I would find a new home for her.  Who knew that within those two
weeks it took for her to become healthy and strong that she would have also
stolen our hearts, officially making my boyfriend a cat person.  Or as he
would say, a Polli person.

 

Since August of 2012, we have been the lucky guardians of this sweet girl.
Polli, named for her polydactyl paws and the gray dot on her pink nose that
reminded us of the dot on a lower-case 'i', was like no other cat I have
known.  As a friend once said, she has the sweetest soul of any creature he
has ever met.  She rushed to greet whomever came to our home, spent
countless hours sprawled out across my boyfriend's chest and would wake me
at 6:30 every morning by sweetly meeping at our bedroom door, waiting to
come in to lay in my arms and chew on my hair before falling back asleep.

 

Since her diagnosis in March, the little cat we love slowly faded. Even
though the vet gave her just two weeks, she fought on for close to four
months, earning her the nickname, Tiny Brawler.  During those months, we
let our hearts spill forth and gave her so much love and affection. Windows
were left open for her to rest in, plates full of treats and wet food were
always present and not a day went by that we didn't kiss her little head and
tell her what a wonderful cat she was. Her strong will to live and give love
was no match for the terrible ways FeLV ravaged her body.  We wanted her to
leave this earth knowing love and comfort and assisted her passing this
afternoon.  Her spirit left this earth as her body laid in one of her
favorite spots in our kitchen with both my guy and I petting and kissing
her.

 

Her life, though short, was filled with love, a full belly and warm home
that will feel empty without her.  To my sweet Polli, may your spirit soar
high with birds and find its place at the Rainbow Bridge. You will be
forever missed and loved by so many people, especially Austin and I.

 

-Amanda

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bad News

2013-07-05 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Amanda, so sorry to hear about Polli.  I'll say a prayer for her, that her
journey and transition are easy.  And for you, that the pain of loss heals
quickly.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amanda K. Payne
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 5:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bad News

 

Hi everyone,

 

We took Polli in to a new vet today to get something new to treat her URI.
She had a bad reaction to Clavamox and we were looking for a new vet who
would be more aggressive and open minded with her treatments.

 

We found a great vet, one I used to go to when I lived on the other side of
town.  He was optimistic about her treatment and was confident we could get
her over this URI.  However, he noticed that her belly is distended.  He did
a tap and diagnosed her with FIP (another disease I have already dealt with
before).  Her skin and gums are also very jaundiced. He says it appears her
body is shutting down.

 

We made an appointment to euthanize her at our home tomorrow afternoon.
She's been on a decline for the past two weeks and feel it's time to help
her go.  

 

Please keep us in your thoughts.

 

Best,

-Amanda

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Leaving the group

2013-07-03 Thread Bonnie Hogue
My cat Stormy has a thing for green beans (string beans).  Whenever I get
them out and start to prepare them she circles me and meows like crazy until
I give her one.  Then she plays with it for hours.  Go figure these crazy
little cats!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Terri Brown
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leaving the group

 

LOL Lee!  Siggie LOVED tomatoes.  I could never figure that outbut he
would eat them!  Anytime I made tomato sauce for pasta, he'd pester me to
death and wouldn't leave me alone until I gave him a little piece of the
tomato!

 

The first time I discovered his love for tomatoes, he did to a bag of them
what your baby did to the bread!  I went to bed with garden fresh tomatoes
in a bag on the table (given to me by a friend), and the next morning, there
were chewed up, gutted tomatoes all over the apartment!  

 

LOL

 

Terri

- Original Message - 

From: Lee Evans mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:15 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leaving the group

 

Terri - I just love that Tomato Vampire that you added to Siggie angel's
name. I still have a vampire cat. He's a bread vampire. I cannot leave an
unguarded loaf of bread anywhere in sight. He once got into the laundry room
where I left a couple of bags of groceries, including a bag with a loaf of
whole wheat bread. When I returned, you can guess what had happened. Bread
EVERYWHERE! Slices on the washing machine, on the dryer, mixed in with a
turned over bag of clothes to be washed, all with bite marks. The Bread
Vampire had struck big time. His real name is Bitsie. A tuxedo darling. I
wouldn't trade him for all the loaves of bread in Whole Foods Market.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


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From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leaving the group

 

I haven't had any FeLV+ cats since 2005, and I'm still lurking about!

 

This is the best list -- some of the folks here have been here a long
time.

 

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie,
Samantha, 
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato
Vampire =^..^=

- Original Message - 

From: Lorrie mailto:felineres...@frontier.com  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 7:01 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leaving the group

 

Absolutely right Lee.  I love this group and I'd never leave even
if I lost my last FelV cat.

Lorrie

On 07-02, Lee Evans wrote:
Losing an FeLv+ cat either by the cat passing away or wandering away is
not a good reason to leave this list. At the present time I don't have
any FeLv+ cats living with me although I have a few FIV+ ones. But I
have not quit the list because new information is always cropping up
and it's good to know it for the future. Also, these people feel like
friends, as well as other issues are always discussed that effect cats
in general.
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Karen

So sorry to hear of Penny's passing.   As you so eloquently said, may she be
frolicking in sunny pastures with her kitty friends.  Although it hurts so
much to have them leave us, they fill our hearts with their sweet love, and
bring out our better nature when we try to help them.  Bless you for your
love and efforts.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Karen Harshbarger
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

 

It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives
one cold winter morning this past winter. She lost her battle with feline
leukemia last night. Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny)
squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts. She was sick
and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question. With
medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I
put out a cry for help and assistance. Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts)
offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home.
They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope
had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also
has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia. She
seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life.
I remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny and loved to be
cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms. Hopefully her friend that she
made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to this horrible
illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know illness or
pain again---nothing but happiness. Poor little Penelope never found her
forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from all of
those that tried to help her, including us. I cried when we took her to
Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside
loving home. Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you will
forever be in our hearts.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Amanda
You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.  Hope for the best and
appreciate your furry buddy.
Hugs
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Maryam Ulomi
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

Keeping Polli and you in my thoughts. Please don't feel guilty, you have
given her plenty of love and care!!!

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jun 25, 2013, at 14:09, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently,
her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling
out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really
worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do
more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] We let Bubba go.

2013-06-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Beth, you have my deepest condolences on the loss of Bubba.  Sounds like he
was well loved and well taken care of.  Yes, it is hard.  Prayers for the
healing power of love to help ease your loss and light Bubba's way on this
next part of his journey.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Beth
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FeLV Talk
Subject: [Felvtalk] We let Bubba go.

 

We did the ultrasound Friday. It showed enlarged spleen  kidneys. Vet
thinks spleen was probably cancerous. I was not putting him through any
more. He had just been laying around for 2 1/2 weeks, mostly having to be
force fed. I did that with my 1st FeLV  I said I would never do it again. I
did it at 1st because he had a URI  I knew he could get over that. But once
that was gone he didn't get better as far as activity  eating.

It was a really sad decision. I had had a tough time with him at first
because he peed on everything. Thanks to some things I learned from watching
Jackson Galaxy we got him out of that habit  he was becoming a total
sweetheart. He just loved to walk up to you an put his head against you. 

Some hit you harder than others. This was pretty difficult. The lady who
found him is having him cremated for me.

 

Thanks guys for just being there.


Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] Callie

2013-06-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lance, prayers for Callie's healing, Ember's improvement and that you can let 
go of the guilt.  Things happen.  May your heart be light from now on!
Bonnie

Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks
 ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got
 into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days,
 and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been
 vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from
 that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to
 deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People
 talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be
 relied on.
 
 I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie
 like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault
 that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still
 here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate
 Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few
 run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years
 were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just
 gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this
 wouldn't have happened. 
 
 Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't
 persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba

2013-06-12 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sorry to hear of Bubba's woes, Beth.  Sending good thoughts to both of you.
I'm sure he feels your love, and that helps!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Beth
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:52 PM
To: FeLV Talk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba

 

Hey guys need some positive energy for one of my FeLV fosters - Bubba. He
had been battling a URI. Tried a couple different antibiotics, and finally,
after a week the URI cleared   he started eating on his own last Sunday.
Well as soon as I took him off the Doxy he started going down again. 
We went to the shelter this afternoon  thankfully they had a wonderful vet
volunteering who has experience in FeLV kitties.
We're wondering now if he has Hemobart since he starting going down after
withdrawing the Doxy. His gums were pink, though. I've had a constant battle
with fleas. Advantage was no longer working so I switched  Frontline, but
that doesn't seem to be working well either.
He got fluids, more Doxy, Prenisone, Cyproheptadine, Capstar  AD. 
On top of that it looks like he has a cat bite o his tail. Poor baby. Going
to go home tonight  spend some one-on-one time with him.
Just being able to talk to you guys about these babies really helps. At
least I feel like someone understands how helpless I feel sometimes.

Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day

2013-06-04 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Ouch, sounds rough!  
In my experience, the cats sometimes sound furious but that is part of the
working it out process.  Hopefully that was the second encounter.  Don't
beat yourself up.  You are doing well to take good care of your beloved
feline friends.
Keeping good thoughts for you all!
Bonnie

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 7:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day

Hi everyone,

I wanted to ask for prayers and warm thoughts for my FeLV+ girl, Ember as
well as my mother's (hopefully) negative cat, Callie. Somehow, Callie got
into Ember's room, not once, but twice. The first time only lasted for a few
minutes, but I discovered a terrible cat fight in progress when I got back
upstairs. To disrupt the chase, I grabbed Callie to remove her from the
room. I got a bloody finger with three puncture marks in the process.

Later, I realized I should really get abx for the bite, so my dad took me to
the doctor. We were gone about an hour. When I got back, I was saddened to
find that I had stupidly managed to not completely close one of the doors to
our rooms, and Callie had again gotten in. I don't know that the cats fought
the second time. I think Callie might have explored the normally off limits
rooms. I found Ember hiding but unshaken behind some clothes, and Callie
didn't act like she was on edge, but I have no idea what happened. 

Needless to say, I'm very concerned about Callie's possible exposure to the
virus. We've had a few run-ns over the last seven years, but nothing like
the fight/chase I broke up today. My hope is that Callie being seven years
old puts her at low risk for infection. She hasn't had any recent vax for
FeLV, but she had the FeLV (including booster) when she was a kitten. She
also seems very healthy. 

There was actually more tough cat stuff today involving a 17 yro diabetic
who had to go for a dental (this ended on a good note), and my usual
concerns about Ember. The radiologist hasn't contacted the surgeon after
almost a week, and Ember probably needs surgical intervention for her
diaphragmatic hernia.

Please think of the two girls.

Lance 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-06-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks for the update, Lance
Still holding a good thought for you and your little Ember!
Bonnie

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Lance
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

Glad to hear that Gribble is doing well. It's amazing how easy it is to take
normal for granted until we deal with FeLV, cancer, or any other problem.
Then, normal becomes a victory and a treasure. I celebrate whenever Ember
eats well.

The surgeon thinks that Ember has a diaphragmatic hernia, but a radiologist
is going to confirm the results of the CT scan. I'd like to get her into
surgery asap, as I'm concerned her symptoms are progressing. A person with a
hernia is much easier, in that you can tell them to stop doing anything
laborious or challenging. Cats just keep doing whatever they've always done.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. I'll update when we know more.

Lance

On May 29, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 Hi Lance,
 
  They are both (knocking madly on wood) doing quite well. Better
than I'd expected for Gribble, he's back to normal at least for him G.
Because his catheterization seems to be what activated his (apparently)
dormant Leukemia, I'm hesitant to subject Mako to the stress of surgery.
We're on a watch and wait. It's possible his lump has been there for a
while, so who knows. His only symptoms (and what occasioned his testing)
have been with his eyes, and most of that is only apparent in hindsight.
 
I do tend to look to surgery even for cats with a mass that's
likely to re-occur, if it will add to quality of life. My Pattern had oral
SCC, and the growth was interfering with her eating. So it was debulked, and
she was able to spend another 10 months with only minor hitches. We didn't
use any kind of chemo, only because it has not been shown to have much
effect on this disease.
 
Hoping everything goes wonderfully, we're crossing fingers,
toes, paws and whiskers,
 
 Margo and the Kids
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers.  May all go well!
Hugs
Bonnie

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Lance
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The
main reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what
the lung mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking
myself for not having been aggressive. 

Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to
remove the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't
pursue things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday
night, it occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and
give Ember the possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat,
and I'd love to have more time with her, if that's possible.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

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Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two

2013-05-01 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lance

Glad to hear your little Ember is doing okay!  I know she was having a hard
time last week.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two

 

It's always a good idea to discuss any symptoms with Raja's vet. They may
want to refer you to a veterinary ophthalmologist or other specialist just
to confirm that nothing else is going on.

 

On May 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:





Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It's wonderful to have

that worry alleviated so soon.

 

I will try those foods, and the web site. I've seen Tiki Cat, and it does

look delicious!

 

Thanks again-Chris C.

 

 

From: Lance mailto:lini...@fastmail.fm  

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two

 

My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had
changed quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it
indicating the progress of the disease.  

 

I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's
definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably
easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to
me here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very
appealing to them.

 

This site has some good ideas:

 

http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm

 

On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:





I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter,

so as I said in my intro, I am new at this.

 

I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is

not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a

random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage

she is in, or anything else.

 

Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I've tried different

dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was

small to begin with.

 

Thanks so much!

Chris C.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-23 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Glad to hear she had a good night.  Good luck with everything at the vet today. 
 Best wishes  positive vibes to both of you!  We know how hard these times can 
be…

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 

 

She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.

 

She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 

 

On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote:





Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

CHERI


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
El
 

 From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
 visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
 cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her 
 treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her 
 sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that 
 she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
  You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
  prayers.
  Bonnie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  Lance
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
  mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
  than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
  night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
  uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
  our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
  
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Turkey Vulture OT

2013-04-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You know, that may have been the Vulture's way of saying, thanks, like
when our kitties bring us their kill, which really is an honor.  It's just
that creatures' tastes and ours are different!

Nice of your friend to help such a special critter!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:00 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Turkey Vulture OT

 

My friend, who is the director of a large feral cat advocacy organization
here was driving home one night from a meeting when she saw a vulture
fluttering by the side of the road, apparently hit by a car. She got out and
managed to get the injured bird into a cat carrier, then off she went to
Wildlife Rescue and Rehabilitation, southwest Texas's most famous wildlife
rescue organization. Once there, the bird was determined to have a broken
wing. Before my friend left the office though, the kindly vulture
regurgitated all over her in gratitude. She said it was the most horrendous
stink she had ever smelled. She was covered with whatever dead thing the
bird had eaten for supper. She made it home in record time and threw herself
into a power shower but she could recall the odor for days after. They call
buzzards and vultures in Texas The Road Crew because they clean up what
careless motorists create.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


  _  


From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Turkey Vulture OT


Enjoyed hearing about your turkey vulture. Wow!
I used to do wildlife rehab and had two young red tailed hawks
who were brought to me when the tree their nest was in was cut down.
They ate an entire raw chicken every day!  My neighbor thought they
needed bird seed and brought me some :-)  She was old and meant well
I guess, but those hawks had no desire for bird seed!

Lorrie


On 04-21, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Everyone in my area knows that if they find a sick or injured animal,
 bring it to Dorlis, the crazy cat lady.  I even rescued a juvenile turkey
 vulture last fall.  




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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You've got it, Lance!  You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
prayers.
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember

Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.

Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays ferals

2013-04-21 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I would imagine TNR orgs have dealt with this type of thing.  Sure seems it
ought to be something to be appealed to the city council, or ?
Maybe someone can offer a suggestion.  Hope you can help change their minds.
Yeah, talk about picking on the helpless...
Good luck
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays  ferals

On 04-21, Marcia wrote:

 Hey guys (-: Marcia from Ks. Guess what the town that I live in is doing
 now?   They are actually ticketing people who are caught feeding cats
 outside of their house!  No kidding. This town is full of methheads 
 and this is what they focus on. So sad.

How awful. I can imagine how angry you are.. What jerks!!

Lorrie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays ferals

2013-04-21 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I suppose it is an effort to reduce the feral population...but it seems
cruel and misguided to me.
B.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
MaiMaiPG
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays  ferals

Why can you feed birds and squirrels outside but not cats?  Or outside dogs?
On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 I would imagine TNR orgs have dealt with this type of thing.  Sure 
 seems it ought to be something to be appealed to the city council, or 
 ?
 Maybe someone can offer a suggestion.  Hope you can help change their 
 minds.
 Yeah, talk about picking on the helpless...
 Good luck
 Bonnie

 -Original Message-
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
 Of Lorrie
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays  ferals

 On 04-21, Marcia wrote:

 Hey guys (-: Marcia from Ks. Guess what the town that I live in is 
 doing
 now?   They are actually ticketing people who are caught feeding cats
 outside of their house!  No kidding. This town is full of methheads 
 and this is what they focus on. So sad.

 How awful. I can imagine how angry you are.. What jerks!!

 Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle

2013-04-16 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Condolences on the loss of this kitty.  They are all special friends.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Beth
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:46 PM
To: FeLV Talk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle

 

I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived at my
house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis the last few
months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday morning. During
his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him under to explore
further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his esophagus. They never woke
him back up. He looked  acted so healthy except for the stomatits. He is
very much missed. He was a silly, sweet, mischievous boy.  I loved him for
all of it!

 

 Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] raw food FeLV pos cats

2013-03-16 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I'd sure LOVE to know how to prepare and feed a home made diet to my cats.
The one time I purchased raw food (frozen, at the farm center) they turned
up their noses at it.  They are mega-fussy.  I feel fortunate to have hit on
a dry food they will (mostly) eat.  Lucky Cat - who has crystals in his
bladder sometimes - won't eat the CD canned food from the vet (which I mix
with the canned food he loves).  It's a worrisome chore, feeding these five
cats.  Sigh.

Thanks for any advice.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of KG
BarnCats
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 8:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Carrie Rosenblatt
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] raw food FeLV pos cats

 

Hi,
For several years I have primarily fed home made raw to my horde of cats
(FELV + separated) and dogs, and have never had any food related problem
whatsoever.  They are in wonderful condition. I do mix in some fish as a
treat every week or so, but it is canned tuna, mackerel, or sardines (all in
water, not oil).  I carefully follow a balanced recipe with no grains,
starches, veggies.

I make a point of being very well read on the publicized risks but I think
they are very overstated - after all, raw is what cats evolved to eat over
millions of years.  Their digestive systems are short and acidic.   Most
vets are poorly trained on nutrition and much of that training comes via the
pet food industry, which makes a bundle selling biologically inappropriate
grain laden, carb heavy, overproccessed, overpriced crap.  Of course they
fear-monger about raw food, even for cats with perfectly healthy immune
systems.  As if dry food hasn't been proven to have frequent contamination
with salmonella etc.  No human has ever been shown to catch disease from raw
food, but there are loads of cases of people getting it from commercial pet
food.  And that doesn't even begin to address the factors of salivary
enzymes as the cat gnaws chunks of meat/bone, or the enzymes and nutrients
destroyed by the disgusting rendering process, or the plastic and filth
cooked in with the often rancid ingredients.  Or the risk of tainted
ingredients. Or the fact that cats are far less healthy overall than they
were 50 years ago... just research the huge jump in diabetes, obesity,
kidney disease, cancer, etc.  Why do most cats now routinely die in their
early teens at best, when they used to live so much longer?  Why?

If one believes that fresh, natural food is better for people than processed
food, then why treat animals any different?  I believe sick or
immunocompromised animals need more nutrition, not less.  They need the best
quality food possible, and I think that is the food they evolved to eat.   I
wish I could feed whole prey, but it's unaffordable.  On the other hand,
homemade raw is made with far better ingredients yet costs so much less than
commercial food - about 35 cents a day.  

Which do you trust more?  Millions of years of mother nature's success, or
the money-motivated pet food industry? 

Ok, getting off soapbox now.  :)
Kg


On Saturday, March 16, 2013, Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Carrie,
 I am so sorry to hear about your kitties. And I am praying they get better
very soon.
 I had put a post up asking the group about raw food for FeLV cats but no
one responded or commented about using that for their cats.
 I have read that for FeLV cats it might be a hazard because their systems
cannot withstand any challenges from parasites.
 Also I have read that seafood is not recommended for FeLV cats so I do not
feed any seafood to mine.
 I am trying to find a holistic vet to start my FeLV cat on a special diet
but it's always best to be in contact with a vet when starting the home cook
diet or a raw diet.
 If the cats are sick l would take them to vet so they can be treated right
away, with FeLV early prevention is the best policy.
 Hope this helps, please send an update soon.
 Sent from my iPad
 On Mar 15, 2013, at 23:45, Carrie Rosenblatt oecb11...@yahoo.com wrote:

 hi. I saw this online - and wondered what you found out about raw food for
FeLV cats. I had one at my apt for a night, and gave him homemade food,
which was made with raw meat, but no pieces of meat was in what I gave him,
just the grains and tuna and supplements, but I was wondering if the juice
or residue from the raw meat could have hurt him, as he is very sick and
getting worse.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

2013-02-27 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lynda, working good on my end!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

 

received Smile

 

From: ter...@tazzys.org 

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:24 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

 

I see ya!

 

Terrie

 

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
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Dedicated to the welfare of animals.

 


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 Original Message 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working
From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
Date: Tue, February 26, 2013 12:22 pm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Hey all, 

Just sending a quick note to see if our webhost has fixed 
the mailing list issues. Please ignore this note. Hope all is 
well with everyone and their furries! Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

2013-02-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yep, got it!
Bonnie

Sent from my iPhone



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 Hey all, 
 
 Just sending a quick note to see if our webhost has fixed 
 the mailing list issues. Please ignore this note. Hope all is 
 well with everyone and their furries! Best wishes.
 
 James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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 http://www.facebook.com/crambone
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine

2013-02-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Hi Rachel
I tried the L-Lysine human tablets for my cat and he threw up!  Maybe
someone knows how to dose it down, but I felt it was risky.  In fact, he
never tolerated the vet's product, either.  Maybe it's just him.
Good luck.
I know it is good for humans as when I get a cold sore it knocks it right
out (caution: can cause constipation).
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Raven
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine

My vet has a pharmacy mix up a cat suitable dosage of liquid L-Lysine (with
fish flavoring). It is quite expensive and I always have some left over. I
was wondering if anyone knows if this stuff can still be used after the use
by date or not?

Also I've seen in health food stores lysine capsules. I was wondering if
anyone uses that for their cat and in what dosage? Or if anyone knows if
that would be something that could be done? I figured it would probably be
okay if the conversions were right but since the mix I get from the pharmacy
also contains some sort of fish flavor that may change the ml so I don't
know.

Thank you for any help.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?

2013-02-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Got it!
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
James G Wilson
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?

Hey all, 

I think there may be a problem with our server since there has been no mail
since the 9th. I will be checking into this today as time permits. Sorry for
the inconvenience. 
Kind regards.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie Molly

2013-01-30 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lorrie, I'm so sorry for your loss and heartache, but how wonderful of you to 
take these little kitties.  You have made a huge difference in their 
lives...and as we know, their love is our payment.  
Blessings to you and your calico angels.
Bonnie

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On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Yesterday was a sad day I had my beautiful, sweet calico kitten,
 Maggie, euthanized.  She was only 9 months old. Her sister, Molly, was 
 euthanized last month, and they are buried side by side in the woods next 
 to our house. I took in this litter of 4 FelV kittens in July knowing 
 they'd probably all die, and consequently break my heart, but I had room 
 in my FelV sanctuary so I wanted to give them a chance, and they had 9 
 happy months living in the upstairs of my large rescue building in town.
 
 I watched them running thru their rooms, scooting thru the tunnels, 
 climbing up the cat posts, and walking across the wall walks which were 
 built just for them, and they were happy kittens. Their three rooms upstairs
 were all made into a cat play ground and also had second hand furniture below 
 the walk ways where I could sit and cuddle them or they could sleep. They had 
 a good life, and longer than they'd have had if I hadn't taken them in from 
 the person who was going to have them PTS because of the FelV virus. 
 
 For 8 months they seemed to be in perfect health, and I actually believed 
 they'd be fine, but then Molly, who was also a calico, got sick. Maggie
 still seemed fine but a bit more quiet, but within a week or so she went
 downhill fast. Two of the precious kittens from this litter are still 
 with us, and so far they seem in good health, but for how long?  No doubt 
 I'll be in tears again when this horrible virus over takes them.
 
 Lorrie
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

2013-01-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sweet thought -- Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 They are here for such a short time and then they are gone but somewhere, in 
 a parallel Universe, Miya Chan is still alive and purring and a version of 
 yourself is there with her. One night, you may visit her in a dream and feel 
 her warmth and see her lovely fur, so while you are there, sneak in a kiss or 
 two on the top of her head before you wake up to yourself back here. You made 
 her life a happy dream.
 
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
 
 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
 
 Goodnight, sweet Miya Chan...
  
 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
 Samantha, 
 Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato 
 Vampire =^..^=
 - Original Message -
 From: Bonnie Hogue
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:50 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
 
 Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she was in 
 kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn’t expect her to go so soon.  
 Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the 
 foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to 
 kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we 
 meet again.
 Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.
 Thank you,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

2013-01-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks, Kelley.  I think you're right -- there's a sunlit meadow in which
our friends watch a butterfly flutter by!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kelley S
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 12:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

Bonnie,

I'm sorry for  your loss.  My Missy, Morgana, Shimmer and Muffin were there
to meet her I am sure.

Kelley

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I'm so sorry for your loss Bonnie, but so grateful that she had you 
 while she was here.

 Marcia

 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, 
 Christmas 2010.

 On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 Sweet thought -- Thank you!

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 On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 They are here for such a short time and then they are gone but 
 somewhere, in a parallel Universe, Miya Chan is still alive and 
 purring and a version of yourself is there with her. One night, you 
 may visit her in a dream and feel her warmth and see her lovely fur, 
 so while you are there, sneak in a kiss or two on the top of her head 
 before you wake up to yourself back here. You made her life a happy dream.


 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!


 
 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

 Goodnight, sweet Miya Chan...

 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
 Samantha,
 Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato 
 Vampire =^..^=

 - Original Message -
 From: Bonnie Hogue
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:50 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

 Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she 
 was in kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn't expect her to go so
soon.
 Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on 
 the foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when 
 I bent to kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain 
 free, and may we meet again.
 Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.
 Thank you,
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[Felvtalk] Miya Chan

2013-01-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she was in
kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn't expect her to go so soon.
Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the
foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to
kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we
meet again.

Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.

Thank you,

Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

2013-01-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Terrie, Maryam, Beth (and anyone I missed) thanks a million for you good 
thoughts and kind words.  It means a great deal to me.  I know we've all lost 
beloved animal friends so understand the sorrow.
Thank you.
Bonnie

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On Jan 6, 2013, at 9:31 PM, ter...@tazzys.org wrote:

 Sorry for the typo errors! Corrected them below!
 This happens when I send off too soon! :(
 
 
 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
 Sultan, WA. 98294
 Terrie Mohr-Forker
 http://tazzys.org/
 Non-Profit national rescue
 Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
  
  
 Copyright © 1999-2012 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
  
  
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
 From: ter...@tazzys.org
 Date: Sun, January 06, 2013 9:26 pm
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Bonnie,
 So sorry for your sudden lost of your kitty!
 It's never easy to lose them quickly.
 Bless you for giving her a life that she would have never had if she hadn't 
 of been with you.
 May she run free at the Rainbow Bridge with many others that have gone before 
 her. My late husband and Taz will be there with open arms/paws to greet her. 
 You will be with her again someday!
 You are in my thoughts and prayers!
  
 Terrie
 
 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
 Sultan, WA. 98294
 Terrie Mohr-Forker
 http://tazzys.org/
 Non-Profit national rescue
 Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
  
  
 Copyright © 1999-2012 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
  
  
  Original Message 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
 From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
 Date: Sun, January 06, 2013 3:50 pm
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she was in 
 kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn’t expect her to go so soon.  
 Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the 
 foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to 
 kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we 
 meet again.
 Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.
 Thank you,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Drinking and Dunking

2012-12-18 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Speaking of cats  water, here's a question.  How come Stormy is extremely 
finicky about having fresh, clean water in her bowl...but if her water bowl 
isn't good enough, she'll jump up onto the counter and drink water out of the 
dishes in the sink.  Is the soaking potato baking dish water so much more 
delicious?  Or is she just pretentious and will drink 'after' humans but not 
other cats?   Go figure felines!

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On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My kitchen has a center island.  Cats like to jump from the top of the 
 refrigerator to the island.  Most make it nicely but Buttons, my 200 pound 
 porker took a flying leap, skidded across the entire counter.  The look on 
 his face was one of shear terror as he went over the edge and splashed down 
 in the water bowl.  Then he walked away with as much dignity as a soaking wet 
 cat could muster. After that incident, I changed the location of the water 
 bowls to under the outcrop of the island so if someone slides off the edge, 
 he/she won't land in the drink.
 
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
 
 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Change subject line.. Cat in Ohio needs home
 
 RE:  water bowls, mine don't swim in them, they pat the water and throw it 
 out, run or slide into bowl .  I hve fountain in kitchen surrounded by sponge 
 to soak up the spills.  i thought it was leaking so bought a new one.  took 
 it out on deck to test it.  it didn't leak.  man time someone slide into new 
 one  and knocked half of th water out.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-12-03 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Great idea!  My problem isn't the Peeing so much as tossing fur balls  cat 
barf... Oh well.  They're still my loves!

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On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:28 PM, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don't care what it looks like. I care what it smells like. Lol. I did order 
 some patio furniture from Home Depot. It's not that comfortable, but I only 
 put cushions on the chair I'll be sitting in since I live by myself. When I 
 go to bed I throw the cushions in the spare bedroom. I don't have to cover or 
 vacuum them because I don't take them out  unless someone comes over. As soon 
 as they leave I put the cushions away. If a cushion does get peed on it can 
 be washed. I have nothing upholstered left in my house.
  
 It does look better, but mostly it saves me all the work of covering it and 
 vacuuming it, and washing all the various coverings.
  
 Also was cheap because I bought it off season. Additionally if a cushion gets 
 ruined I can always by new patio furniture cushions in the future.
  
 I'm hoping this will make things cheaper. I typically take any couch friends 
 are giving away and throw it away when it gets peed on in a place where the 
 cats have uncovered all plastic
  
 tonya
 
 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
 To: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com 
 Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
 
 Sounds perfect to me!
 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need.  I live in 
 South Texas.  We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a 
 rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal 
 with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, 
 I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies.  I tend to 
 stay away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable 
 patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. 
 Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no 
 place in a house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on 
 something that is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is 
 fairly comfortable, I don't care what it looks like.
 
 Fortunately, almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm 
 normal.  
 
  
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[Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

2012-12-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
A while back someone posted information on cautions using essential oils
around cats.  I believe it was a link to a website with information.

Dear whomever:  could you kindly repost that?

Many thanks,

Bonnie

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[Felvtalk] Suggestion for Cat (or foot) Warmers

2012-12-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Taking off on your idea for cat beds:

My mom used to make little rice bags.  They are about 12x10 but I think
you could make other sizes.  Create a bag, fill it with rice, leave room so
it is squishy rather than firm, sew up the corner.  You can put a cover on
or not.  Then, on a cold night, microwave the bag (3-4 mins depending upon
your microwave oven) and you have a thing that stays nice and warm for
hours.  We use them for our feet on a cold night.  My aunt used to put them
out for her feral yard cat, in a box, to keep the kitty warm.  She said the
cat used to wait for them by the door on a cold night.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

It's my way of avoiding my insect phobia.  I turn them into people and
imagine what they would think in any given situation.

On another note:  

Jo-Ann Stores is having a 50% off sale on fleece and flannel.  Do you know
anyone who can sew?  I'm two left hands and 10 thumbs but someone who can
sew could probably make some nice cat snuggle beds and pillow covers for
cats or kids or whatever.  You can get their discount coupon emails at
mailto:jo-...@email.joann.com jo-ann@email.joann.comand they will add you
to their email list.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


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From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture


Never having seen a scorpion laughing, I am kindof sorry I missed that.

Kat

P.S.  I am right on the cusp of  libra and scorpio. October 23.  I
still would have squished the sucker.  He attacked first!

On 12/2/12, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Brown scorpions are the nasty type.  I was zapped by a regular generic
type
 scorpion.  I'm idiotically superstitious. I was born at the end of
October.
 Scorpio.  I wouldn't harm a scorpion for anything.  Really bad luck. So I
 walked away from the encounter yowling and the scorpion walked away
 laughing.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

2012-12-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks for the info!  It is as I remember, and I can pass along to a friend
who was curious.

B.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

 

I really would not use any fragrances around cats or even around dogs.  One
holiday, I boiled some cinnamon on the stove to make the house smell like
gingerbread.  Several of my cats began to sneeze and one began to have
watery eyes.  If you want fragrances, keep them away form the rooms where
the cats stay.  I don't buy scented cat litter either.

 

 

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neighbors too!

 


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From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

 

Not sure if it was me, but here's one of my favorites:
http://holisticat.com/aromatherapy.html   Some contend that they are OK if
they are high-quality.   I would use hydrosols or flower essences instead,
just to be on the safe side.   

 

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

A while back someone posted information on cautions using essential oils
around cats.  I believe it was a link to a website with information.

Dear whomever:  could you kindly repost that?

Many thanks,

Bonnie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yeah, I understand.  I dearly love the cats (all five who live indoors with
me) and really enjoy their company (sounds strange to some, but you all
probably understand).  I like to look at the couch and love seat and see
lovely sleeping felines.makes me feel fortunate!

However.being newly single it is something (ahem) to explain to possible
suitors.  The only part I *don't* like is that the furniture is off-white
and has had puke, pee and 'whatever' tossed on it.  That and the fur.  But
as I tell people, one day I'll write a memoir titled, Covered in Cat Hair:
A Story of Love.

After that hits the best seller list I'll buy new furniture!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Edna Taylor
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly
covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck
cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the pisser have passed
on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;)
 

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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 

 

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neighbors too!

 


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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work
because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.

 

As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot.
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp
over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a
multitude of cats.

 

Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and
can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that
read:  For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I
need to buy it.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

2012-11-20 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Someone would get a male cat a vasectomy?  Or have a female cat's tubes
tied?

Wow.people are stupider than I thought.

B.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
janine paton
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

 

The stress of an unspayed female is great, I think much greater than the
spaying itself.  And it may be true that pyometria is more common in dogs,
but boy have we seen plenty in outside cats, even young ones.  One couldn't
have been more than a year old and we had no idea her slightly swollen belly
was pyometria.  And have h ad a few with mammary cancer also.  Not worth it.
Use a decent vet and get your cat spayed!  

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, November 20, 2012 8:57:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

Amen to that sister.  My cat Cookie, long ago, was borderline diabetic.  The
vet didn't want to subject her to anesthesia because he said she was an
older cat and might develop full blown diabetes since she was on the edge.
So I didn't have her spayed.  She went into her heat cycle several more
times, then gave it up as a bad idea.  She lived an additional 5 years with
me as a house feral. One day I noticed blood on her chair towel (I use
towels to cover the plastic chairs in my house.  Everything here has to be
washable).  I also noticed that Cookie was acting very lethargic.  I finally
got her into a carrier.  At the clinic they flipped her over and I was
horrified.  All her nipples were black, some were enlarged, two were
bleeding.  She had severe mammary cancer.  The vet said she was probably in
pain.  There was nothing I could do.  He gave her a pain injection.  She
became drowsy and I allowed him to euthanize her.  I will NEVER NOT SPAY a
cat.  Male cats can get prostate cancer.  There is no proven reason why cats
and dogs can't be spayed and neutered.  Humans have the operation all the
time for ovarian cancer and prostate cancer.  If physicians didn't do
hysterectomies on women with cancer or with precancerous lesions the cancers
would metastasize and more people would die.  

In addition, try and get an intact spraying male cat or howling female cat
adopted.  It will just not work.

Or, as an alternative, get the female's tubes tied and give the male a
vasectomy and you still have all the mating behavior in addition to the
operations costing almost a thousand dollars as opposed to spay/neuter that
can be had for a cost as low as $15 including rabies shot.

I want to add that my mother, a registered nurse at the time, forbade me to
have any of our yard cats neutered or spayed citing the ridiculous argument
that animals and people have to be left natural.  Consequently I allowed two
intact cats to remain that way, filling my yard with 7 kittens who, although
I didn't know it, were FeLv positive and active for the disease.  They all
died.  Had I spayed and neutered mom and dad cat, I would have saved 7
kittens from being born and dying in illness and discomfort and possibly
saved mom and dad cats from wandering away to spread the disease all over
the neighborhood.

 

 

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

 

I'm not going to start an argument over one study. 
Being in heat was very stressful on the one of the 1st FeLV cats I had. The
spay was easy  she recovered quickly.
My cats have all been spayed. We've had cats live well into their 20's - all
spayed.
Cats who still have their ovaries, which are responsible for heat cycles,
are much more likely to develop mammary cancer.
Cats ( dogs) can also develop an infection in their uterus (pyometra) from
not being spayed..

There is just not enough evidence out there to make me even think about not
getting my cats, FeLV or not,  spayed.

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
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Re: [Felvtalk] More Official Types of Cats

2012-11-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Love your decorating suggestions!  Ha!
But did you include my Miya-Chan?  She's been referred to as a brushed coat 
Calico...all colors, some stripes, but 'brushed' thru her coat rather than 
appearing in distinct patches!  She's purrr-dee!

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In the Calico-Tortoise Shell Cats Category you have
 
 Torties - The true Tortoise Shell cat, mostly black and orange blended
 Harlequin Tortie - face is half orange, half black in the same blend
 Torbie - combination of tabby and Tortie, a Tortoise Shell cat with tabby 
 stripes
 Dilute Tortie - Instead of black, grey and sort of pinkish orange(like 
 Torties that faded in the laundry)
 Calico - white with large patches of orange and black, with or without stripes
 Dilute Calico - white  with large patches of grey and pinkish orange (they 
 look like Calico cats that faded in the laundry.
 
   Combining Cats With Furniture for the Best Effect 
 
 Calico cats and Tortoise Shell cats will go with most decors so if you have a 
 sofa that is white with black and orange cushions, you may adopt one of 
 these.  However, if your decor is all white, I would recommend a white cat 
 and all black, a black cat. A really good conversation starter is created 
 when you get a black cat with a white sofa. People will comment on what a 
 lovely zebra striped sofa you have.
 
 There is actually a Yahoo group devoted to Tortoise Shell Cats.  There's 
 probably one devoted to Calico Cats also.  If I didn't have to rescue cats 
 according to their need, I would have had two dozen Calico Cats. My first cat 
 was a kitten I named Tuffy. She was a true calico.  She was with me for 13 
 and a half years. I still miss her.  She used to sit with me when I played 
 the piano, right next to me on the piano bench, even when I was just 
 practicing.  Still love that cat.
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home - Types of cats

2012-11-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I need new furniture but have decided to get used stuff until I have older 
cats.  Makes it easier on everyone!

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love the color exchange for cats! And the black cats sitting in the window! 
 I am amazed however that furniture can be more important to someone than the 
 little soul that they have spent the last 2 years with!  My cats shredded my 
 new chair and when people say anything about it I just tell them what can I 
 say? I like my cats a hell of a lot more than I like that stupid inanimate 
 object!
 Why is that hard to understand? 
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 On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 This actually happened to me when I was answering our hotline for VOICE For 
 Animals.  A woman called asking if we could take an orange cat.  I asked her 
 why. What she said was that she had purchased a white sofa and the cat was 
 getting orange fur all over it.  She said she would be willing to take a 
 white cat in exchange.  She had had the orange cat for 2 years, had come 
 into some money recently and was buying new living room furniture.  I 
 finally talked her out of dumping her cat on us by telling her about the 
 sticky roller product for removing lint and hair from things.  I also told 
 her that she should purchase a multicolored  sofa cover to keep the sofa 
 covered for general use and whisk off the cover when company arrives. She 
 was delighted with the ideas.  I should write a book on how to color 
 coordinate your rooms with your cats and dogs and how to color coordinate 
 your daily work outfits with a shedding pet.
 
 Along those lines, here's a great idea for people who have too many cats and 
 don't want the Animal Control Officer to notice.  Exchange your cats with 
 your neighbors until you all have sets of cats of the same color.  You can 
 take the white cats, then paint your furniture and walls white.  The Officer 
 will never notice the cats since they will blend in with everything.  And 
 you will go snow blind. A friend of mine actually had 6 black cats in an 
 apartment where they only allowed 3 pets total. But with all the black cats, 
 any time a cat sat at the window, it looked like the same cat.  Cool, right?
 
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
 
 From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home - Types of cats
 
 Lol Lee I like the pairing of furniture and cats. You should write a 
 book(-;
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 All Black - Black Cats
 Black with white patch on chest and belly - Medallion Cats
 Black Cape with White Cravat - Tuxedo Cats
   Unofficial Types (I made up the names)
 White With Black Polka Dots - Spotty Cats or Cow Spot Cats
 White With Black on Head and Ears, Black Tail: Toupee Cats wearing Formal 
 Tails.
 All Black Cats - Panthers
 Tabbies - Tigers
 Orange Tabbies - Pumpkin Tigers
 Grey Cats - Dust Bin Cats (some call them Russian Blues)
 Tabby and White - Cape Cats
 Pink Cat - got into the Strawberry ice cream I left on the kitchen counter 
 (originally white cat)
 
  
 
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
 
 From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
 
 if u do a web search ,it shows you cats, It says they are medium size,JET 
 BLACK,gleaming coat,GOLD TO COPPER EYES,sweet,facial expression.I have 
 several all black cats,Naya, Ebony,Onyx,Heidi then I have black with the 
 white on its chest which people call the collar in French, Bernie  
 Mack,Button,Zorro he has the white mark on his chest and below his 
 belly,Vogue, Nikita,then I have black and white ones.I HAVE 
 LAMONT who is small all black and has  those gold,deep orange,or copper 
 eyes.Cathy
 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
 To: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com 
 Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
 
 Bombay kitty?  What does that mean?
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-01 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Felaway or Pet-tastc(cat formula) are great scent neutralizers!

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
 vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
 to get her exam and vaccinations.
 
 Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
 Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
 jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
 were here first - or something!
 
 So far they are both doing well.
 
 Kat
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-10-31 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Nice of you to give little creatures a home.  You'll go to Heaven one day,
you know!

(or It's equivalent)

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Edna Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; marciabmar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

 

You ROCK!
 

 From: katsk...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:26:06 -0400
 To: marciabmar...@gmail.com
 CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
 
 As an FYI I am adopting cat(s). Meeting rescuer tomorrow near
 Columbus. Will be taking in to test for FeLV and get vaccinations
 following day. It/they if he can snare the black one she abandoned
 too, will join my current 8 cats and 4 dogs.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story

2012-10-21 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Good Story about Momma Tulip.  Someone once said they spayed their female,
who seemed so grateful to not have to have any more kittens!  Sounds like MT
was there!

~Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story

 

Hi, that is a nice storyIn Jan.2005 I was standing outside my house
and something just flew by. I said to my neighbor was that a rat or a
kitten.? Well, it was a kitten and he ran right inside my house. He is
gray,with white feet,small,and his nam is M  M..Also, a mother cat
who I named Momma Tulip was always having babies.When I moved in this house
I was told that by my neighbors. Well Momma Tulip wuold go thru plastic bags
to get food. I would tell her I'm gonna get you. Well. I did get her
inside,but she was ferral so I didn't know how to get her to the vet. The
day of her appointment Momma Tulip was sitting in the carrier. So, she was
spayed,and I was so happy to see her always with food,water,warmth,and
love.I kept my promise. Cathy Bronx N Y



 

From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:21 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story


Hi Everyone,

Here's a kitten story you should all enjoy. My daughter who helps
me with rescue work and TNR, has a lot of stray cats at her house.
There is one feral in particular she has been trying to trap for 
years. This cat produces at least 2 litters a year, and she hides
the kittens and then brings them around when they are about 9 or 
10 weeks and as wild as their mother is.  This year she brought 
her 3 kittens earlier than usual (about 3 or 4 weeks old) and my 
daughter was able to gather them up and bring them inside to be
socialized. BUT how to catch the mom??  She has tried a trap to
no avail. This is one smart mom cat!  So she set up a large plastic
storage box on the front porch where she feeds all these strays,
and put the kittens inside. She had a large screen to put on top
if mom cat went inside, but she had to hide, as mom cat wouldn't
go in if she saw Karin. Well quick as a flash the mother grabbed
one of the kittens and ran!  Karin brought the other two back in
and the mother cat had the other kitten outside someplace for 2
days. Karin saw no sign of the third kitten, but when the weather 
got very cold and rainy she finally saw the mom and kitten on her
porch.  Karin opened the door to get the kitten, and the mother 
tried to grab him and run but the kitten saw Karin and ran to
her instead! 

I think this is an amazing story. Did that kitten remember being 
inside where it was warm, or had he bonded with my daughter before 
his cat mom stole him?  All 3 kittens are now safe, and warm inside 
and learning to eat well.

I hope you enjoyed this story and I wonder if any of you have had
similar stories to share.

Lorrie and 14 rescued cats and Karin with 18 rescued cats!!



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Re: [Felvtalk] Ta ta for now

2012-10-12 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks for sharing the great information.  Very helpful to me, as I seek to use 
the best products for my beloved furry friends.

Sorry to see you check out – you have been very helpful, to me.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ta ta for now

 

It seems that this topic still isn’t closed, is it?  There have been comments 
after the one you just responded to here.

 

I joined because a friend recommended this group, and it has been helpful.  I 
had 2 adult FeLV+ cats.  One of the cats died of CRF, and the other was adopted 
by a veterinarian and is still doing OK.  Those 2 cats lived with a large group 
of healthy cats for about 6 months, and I tested all starting with very young 
and older cats – not a single cat contracted the virus!  6 months should have 
been enough time to do so, shouldn’t it?

Since I don’t have any FeLV positive cats right now, I decided that I will get 
off this list – I learned things that I’d rather not have known, such as 
someone hunting small game, another person having cats declawed routinely, I 
guess because the vet offers such a great deal, etc. 

But before I leave, I will post just one site about Clumping litter containing 
sodium bentonite.  Don’t forget, it doesn’t have to be listed in the 
ingredients!~  And as long as it states that it can be flushed down the toilet, 
is doesn’t contain SB, which would completely block the plumbing.

I’ve seen so many reviews, often poo-pooing the dangers, misstating that SB 
expands 5 times its weight (it’s capable of absorbing liquid and moisture 15 x 
its weight, and is- used in construction).  The best article was written in 
Tiger Tribe, a holistic cat magazine that is no longer published. When I heard 
that they were closing down operations, I bought all the back issues. 
http://www.thelighthouseonline.com/articles/clump.html - Clumping clay litters, 
a deadly convenience.

This one is short and sweet. 
http://kapush.net/cat-litter/sodium-bentonite-cat-litter-dangers/ -

Natalie

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy 
reasoner
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

 


I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk.

 

Cindy Reasoner

 

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From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM

I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a 
platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any 
candidate horrible names!

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Please take the politics and other OT topics to appropriate lists

2012-10-10 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Loud and Clear.  Thank you!
And I too hope you don't have to suspend this very valuable resource!
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
James G Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Please take the politics and other OT topics to
appropriate lists

Hey all,

I must reiterate that this list is for discussing FeLV, treatments, and
support for caregivers. It is NOT a politics, hunting, personal soapbox,
etc. list. We have a well-defined mission here to discuss FeLV. All of these
other topics need to be taken to forums where such topics are discussed. I
would hate to have to suspend this list because some want to ignore or bring
their own interpretations into my gentle reminder about OT posting here.
But, if suspending this list for a short time is the only way to stop the
continuation of the off-topic chatter, I will have to do so. It is rude to
continue these conversations after being asked to stop. Thank you for your
consideration and cooperation. Kind regards.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wow!  I didn't know that!  Makes me reconsider what I'm using in my six 
boxes... Used to use World's Best but it is also 'world's most expensive'... 
Got to rethink it now. Thanks!

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On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the 
 delightful aroma it would cause if I didn’t do it 2x/day or more, as needed. 
 It doesn’t matter whether it’s dusty or not, clumping litter still contains 
 sodium bentonite, and it doesn’t have to be listed on the bag/box.  The one 
 and only way of knowing whether it doesn’t contain SB, is if it’s allowed to 
 be flushed down a toilet; its’ a compound used in construction to seal the 
 space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in 
 liquid.  It can get into a cat’s urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested 
 when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a 
 solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture.
  
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee 
 Evans
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
  
 Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. 
  I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end 
 table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the 
 cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, 
 no claws!!  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of 
 really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term Golden Years was probably not 
 yet 18.
  
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
  
 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
  
 Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good 
 whatsoever ;)
  
 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
 I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down 
 the drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 
 lbs. at Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  
 The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all 
 the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the 
 cats dig and then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a 
 light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all 
 that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the 
 pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't 
 dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop 
 the poop every day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?
  
  
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
  
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
 
 I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
 litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
 stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
 with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
 boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
 the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.
 
 I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
 litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
 seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
 is so bad.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
  
 Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
 info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer
 beware.  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
 is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
 themselves - or kittens, while playing.
  
 People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
 the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
 pretty disgusting, too!
  
 Natalie
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-28 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Well, actually, that can lead to a stroke, which can be slow and gruesome ... 
Me, I've taken up mountain biking... Hope they find me collapsed on a hillside 
with a view!

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On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have to tell you, that after watching my Mom go through the death process, 
 I have decided that high cholesterol is lookin pretty good to me!
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
 2010. 
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 9:40 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 Sounds like my father!  He also passed at home.  He woke up hot and sweaty 
 and said he wanted a bath.  I started to bathe him and got his head done 
 when I noticed him listing to one side.  Tried to get him back to bed, but 
 had to let him lie on floor rather than drop him.  Did CPR, called 911, but 
 he was gone before they got there.  Miss him very much, but glad he went 
 that way.
 
 
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 Good for him.  Dying at home is the best way.
 I want to croak at home in my own bed.
 
 
 
 On 09-26, Terri Brown wrote:
  My father who passed away this past December (may he rest in peace),
  passed away at home, with morphine drops and water if he wanted it.  In
  his case, it was heart failure, and he didn't want to die in the
  hospital.
 
  He literally said to my sister (pardon the language) I am sick of this
  fucking hospital.  Take me home.  I want to die on my couch.
 
  So that's what he did.
 
  Terri
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: [1]Lorrie
 
  To: [2]felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:57 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia
 
I guess your mom requested no tubes, and this is why she only
got morphine. I'm sure glad she had that.  Hospice is usually
very generous with it, whereas hospitals aren't.  Never go to
a hospital to die. They do everything they can to keep you alive
and they never give patients enough pain medication.  I've worked
in hospitals and heard patients crying and moaning with no relief,
because doctors are afraid patients might get addicted.
This ridiculous when the person is gonna die anyway!!
On 09-26, Marcia Baronda wrote:
 My mom had morphine...hospice wouldn't allow fluids.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

2012-08-14 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Me too!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of lexingtongrn
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

 

Got it

 

From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:56 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet


Hey all,

Just testing the list since it's been so quiet. Hope this 
goes through ok. Best wishes to all.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today

2012-05-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Condolences on your painful loss...bless you for loving and appreciating dear 
little Orlando. 

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On May 21, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time.  His 
 tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped 
 eating.  He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy.  The 
 first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a 
 hug.  From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will 
 never see him again in this world.  He was about 10 when I adopted him and 
 that was four years ago.  He would come up and bite me in the butt for 
 attention when I was working on the computer.  If I got up at night to go to 
 the bathroom he would accompany me.  Always.  I guess that was how I knew it 
 was time.  On the last night he didn't do that.  He will be SO missed.  I 
 hate hate hate this disease.
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Re: [Felvtalk] please add Sylvia to the CLS

2012-05-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Anna

Condolences on the loss of your dear friend, Sylvia.  As you have so
beautifully written, you loved and appreciated her in your life, and knew
how to help her exit her life more easily.  I hope the good memories of your
time together heal the pain of your loss.

Peace,

Bonnie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Anna Waltman
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] please add Sylvia to the CLS

 

Dear all,
I lost my sweet Sylvia cat this afternoon. Despite our best efforts with
daily subcutaneous fluids, appetite stimulants, Interferon, probiotics,
vitamins, steroids, and multiple antibiotics, she was still fading fast and
appeared to be in a significant amount of pain yesterday. So, with a heavy
heart, I took her to the vet one last time this afternoon for a consult. The
vet looked over her chart thoroughly, took a close look at her gums and
listened to her breath, and said that at this point we'd done all we could
do; the anemia was causing her to crash. We agreed, sadly, that it was time
to let her go. This was definitely the hardest choice I've ever made; I'm
only 25 and Sylvia was my first cat as an adult. We bonded immediately and
it has been awful watching her decline over the last month. I'd never been
present when an animal has been euthanized before, and I was extremely
reluctant to see her go this way. I'd hoped she might pass quietly at home,
but she just seemed so uncomfortable that letting her linger struck me as
cruel and selfish. I think I made the right choice. She went peacefully,
wrapped in a clean blanket in my arms, with no pain. While we waited for the
vet, she sat in my lap and purred just like she did as a kitten at her first
vet visit. It broke my heart to let her go, even though I know it was the
kindest thing I could do.

Sylvia was the best cat I've ever had: smart, sweet, devoted, impeccably
well-mannered, pleasantly chatty, cuddly. Up until last month, she was fat,
sassy, and apart from gingivitis, quite healthy, so I am confident she had a
good life. I will miss her terribly. I already do. I'm glad I have my lively
little clownish siamese mix, Beatrice (who, as far as I know, is FeLV
negative and healthy as a horse) to keep me company. It'll just be the two
of us for a little while, so we have time to mourn the loss of a truly great
friend, old soul, and gentle spirit.

I am so, so sad...but also thankful for four years with a wonderful cat.
Some animals make you a better person. I think Sylvia has done that for me,
and I will always remember her.

Thanks to all of you who have given me advice and support over the last few
years. I'm grateful to have had a group of more experienced cat owners to
turn to with questions and concerns; you all have been a great source of
comfort and information. Best of luck to you and yours in fighting this
awful disease.
Sadly,
Anna (and Beatrice)


-- 
Anna Elisabeth Waltman
PhD Candidate // Contemporary American Poetics
Department of English and American Literature
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

2012-02-16 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Terri

My condolences to you on the loss of your beautiful orange boy.  May your
sweet memories of time together heal your heart, and may Siggie play in the
meadows of peace.

B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:24 AM
To: RQP; felvtalk; Persian_Rescue; FLUTD listserv
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

 


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Hello everyone,

 

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

 

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me
for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT
have FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005
(right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

 

He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.
He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him,
soiling himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had
fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had
threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

 

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he
ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

 

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss
you forever.

 

 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat

2012-02-13 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wow, Jannes, good luck with your new kitty.  How wonderful of you to give
such a special creature a home.  You will undoubtedly be richly blessed in
return!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat

 

Love this poem! Two weeks ago we rescued an blind and deaf cat who is
guesstimated to be 10 years old. Another challenge in my life but so glad to
be of service. Thanks for sharing such a beautiful poem.



 

Jannes 

From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat

 

It's beautiful! I will share this with the cat lovers I know. Thank you
Natalie(:

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 10, 2012, at 7:00 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

Have to share this with my fellow cat lovers, Natalie

 

This Old Cat

 

I'm getting on in years,

My coat is turning gray.

My eyes have lost their luster,

My hearing's just okay.

I spend my day dreaming

Of conquests in my past,

Lying near a sunny window

Waiting for its warm repast.

 

I remember our first visit,

I was coming to you free,

Hoping you would take me in

And keep me company.

I wasn't young or handsome,

Two years I'd roamed the street.

There were scars upon my face,

I hobbled on my feet.

 

I could sense your disappointment

As I left my prison cage.

Oh, I hoped you would accept me

And look beyond my age.

You took me out of pity,

I accepted without shame.

Then you grew to love me,

And I admit the same.

 

I have shared with you your laughter,

You have wet my fur with tears.

We've come to know each other

Throughout these many years.

Just one more hug this morning

Before you drive away,

And know I'll think about you

Throughout your busy day.

 

The time we've left together

Is a treasured time at that.

My heart is yours forever.

I Promise - This old cat.

 

~ K.C. Bigamon

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

2012-01-30 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Got it!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 2:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

Hey everyone,

I am just testing the list again. Our webhost moved our account to a new
server earlier in the week. And, I haven't seen any traffic on here since
then. I hope this goes through ok. And, I hope everyone is enjoying their
weekend. Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research  Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for
Edwardsville, IL)

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Re: [Felvtalk] Firefly Please add to the CLS :(

2012-01-20 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sherry

My condolensces on the loss of Firefly, who sounds like a sweet little
angel.  Thanks to you and the others for taking care of her.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:26 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Firefly Please add to the CLS :(

 


Through tears I am writing this,Sids has lost another wonderful girl
todayFirefly got her name by chasing fireflies jumping and trying to
catch them before her rescuer got her off the street. She was the cutest
little tabby girl with the sweetest face and purrsonality. I loved her from
the second I met her as I am sure many of us volunteers were smitten with
this little ladyshe left us too soon but she will ALWAYS have a place in
my heartwow this hurts..

Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Homey

2011-12-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Got your hands full!  I sure wish you luck with it.  I'm typing slow as cat
is sitting in front of the computer (and purring!)...
Ever hear of Petastic?  Great for dealing with stains/smells.  They have a
cat formula.  Works great.
Good luck to you and Homey!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Homey

My vt just called with the culture report and they found no bacteria.  Did a
culture for all of them.  Sort of good news/bad news.  He has an artcle and
when finished reading it, will copy for me.  She may have Pandora's syndrome
or 1 of several other problems.  We don't think it i this syndrome as se has
a fairly enriched life.  The whole house to roam, toys, 7 boxes, 8 beds to
pick from + my bed and lap.  When it is not raining, snowng or I am at home,
she gets to go out and hunt or just lie in the sun on the deck( 53'x 8').
Toys all over the house, not to mention the other cats to case and play
with.  So now we are stating to look for other reasons the crystals keep
coming back.  I have statd adding vinegar to their drinking water and sice
we like oranges and grapefruit, let her have a bit when I have mine in the
morning.  We are all on Hill's SD (1 can + 2 cns hot water).  Then I spoon
some into all bowls.  They drink the liquid first and laer g back and eat
the meat.!
   Trying to fin alternative to SD.  Petsmart has Royal Canin so will try it
next.  Rigt now, t is cold, cloudy and I still haven't been abe to fix the
garage door so won't be oing out for anything today.  Please excuse the
erros, Dee is helping me.  She likes to stand on the desk and swish her tail
back and forth.  Ever try to see over a cat?  Also have to wash all 8 bs as
Homey pees in them during these bouts with the crystals.  Have to spray with
Natur's Miracle and let it sok for a couple of hours nd then wash.  Can only
get 2 in washer at a time so will be 4 loads and I still won't have my
clothes washed.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

2011-12-01 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Glad to hear it's going well for you and Horus.  My cat Lucky had surgery
last week.  He's also a sweet muffin, even with that ridiculous radar dish
on his head.

Good luck!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

 




Thank-you everybody for sweet words and positive thoughts..Horus is doing
well considering, I think he's filling up again, getting a paunch again. The
tests results might be back tomorrow but most likely sometime next week.
Does somebody have experience seeing almost clear fluid? The tech said
didn't look like FIP to her..but don't know if FIP is like other diseases
that doesn't have a defined characteristic(in this case different looking
fluid vs thick yellow liquid)

He's on amoxi for a bacterial infection, sub-q's everyother day or as
needed.

 He's too sweet. he always was, except hours after rescue was the hissiest
of the litter but as months passed Horus turned into a  very laidback, purr
machine kitty, 

Marta



 

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From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 3:14 AM

Here are more prayers for Hortus and you.  Poor baby, he must be miserable
and you must be also having to see him suffering.  I do hope he gets better
soon.
.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ho...@sonic.net  wrote: 
 Holding a good thought for you and Horus, Marta.
 
 Hang in there!
 
 ~Bonnie
 
  
 
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http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk-bounces@felineleukem
ia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk-bounces@felineleukem
ia.org ] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
 
  
 
 
 Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor
baby!
 And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR,
cytology
 and fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a
 pound  1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the
fluid.
 But even so his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is
 serious, whatever it is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5
days
 
 Marta
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

2011-11-30 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Holding a good thought for you and Horus, Marta.

Hang in there!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

 


Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor baby!
And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR, cytology
and fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a
pound  1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the fluid.
But even so his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is
serious, whatever it is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5 days

Marta

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lila Rose and Roxxi Please add to the CLS :(

2011-11-14 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sherry

Condolensces on the losses of your two friends.  I'm so sorry.  But how
blessed to have the connection and love you did share.

May these two lady cats have a peaceful transistion, and may the memory of
them help heal your heart.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:16 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lila Rose and Roxxi Please add to the CLS :(

 


We lost these two Sids girls in the last several days.

Lila Rose was a shy scared girl that was only with us for just a few months.

Roxxi was a beautiful Torti girl who was very quiet and sweet.I had the
honor of loving her for just over 3 years. I was broken hearted over these
two lovely ladies.   :(

Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Susan

I'm so sorry for your loss of your precious cat, Autumn.  I bet she was
orange.  I once had an orange Autumn, too.

Sound like you and she were very bonded and shared a lot.  I'm sure you made
her life better.and she returned the favor.

May your good memories help heal the pain of loss, and may you have a
lifetime of wonderful cats!

~Bonnie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Ang
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:34 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

 

My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sweet story, Lee.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

 

My two FeLv/FIV+ cats Taco and Smooch have passed over this year.  I was
heartbroken.  But then I realized how wonderful it was that people like us
give these deserving little cats all the life they can sustain and don't
turn our backs on them because they were unlucky enough to have these
afflictions.  Taco and Smooch were both healthy, fat and happy until a month
before they passed.  Smooch held on a few weeks after Taco but I think Taco
called to him that it was better on the other side and Smooch left.  

 

Lee

 

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From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

This is so true, I know that Fletch is here with me. I miss him so.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:57 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

 Autumn left this world as a precious, loved and cared for being.  That is
so wonderful.  She remains with you even though you can't see  her and will
visit you when the time is right.  It may be as you sleep, when you are the
most open to her, but don't dismiss it as a dream and enjoy every second of
it.
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang wrote:
 
 My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sids Kids?

2011-11-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Oh, Sherry, I'm way out here in Northern California (in the wine country, no
less!) . but that really looked like a smashing good time.  Glad you raised
funds to help the furry ones!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:47 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sids Kids?

 


Thank you Beth for posting the crashs linkand Bonnie it would have been
GREAT for you to come to the Wine/Art Gala !!! Where are you located? We had
an awesome night and raised almost $15,000 !!! Will be even better next year
!!! Thanks to all of you for your kind words,they REALLY do help me through
the hard times we go through with our beloved Sids kids:) Love to you
all !!!

Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sids kid??

2011-11-04 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wow, I was all set to go to the wine-do tonight until I realized it's in
Michigan!  

Nice web site, and nice looking cats!

Best of luck to you.

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 6:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sids kid??

 

Here's their link:  http://crashslanding.org/index.html

 

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif  www.Furkids.org
http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sids kid??

For months I've been wondering what a Sids kid was. I knew they were
FelV cats, but did not know what SIDS meant.  I'm glad someone else
asked first..  I thought I should know :-)  Lorrie

On 11-03, Marcia Baronda wrote:
That's what I was wondering(-:
 
On  Nov  3,  2011, at 7:40 PM, kat parker [1]korruptaki...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
Oh, I am so sorry to hear this!  You go through this so much.  Please,
may  I ask you, what is a Sids kid, besides the obvious of being one
of your FeLV+ kitties?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnet Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-10-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sherry

Condolences on the loss of Bonnet.  But how wonderful you were there for her
and helped make her life better, as evidenced by her change in
expressiveness.

May the love you shared comfort you.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
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Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 9:19 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bonnet Please add to the CLS :*(

 


My heart is broken,found out today that Dr. Jen had to let our beautiful Bon
Bon go yesterday. Bonnet was my favorite girl at Sids,she came in a shy girl
and blossomed into a loving,playful and sweet beautiful tortie. I will miss
this wonderful little lady,I am happy I got to spend some time with her on
Monday while I was there. Never enough time. :(

Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

2011-09-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Edna

So sorry for your loss.  Miller sounds like a very dear friend indeed.

May your pain be soothed by your sweet memories.

Blessings to you all.

Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:21 AM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

 

Edna,
 
may a comforting presence hold you close.
 
Thank you for being a with-you-to-the-end ally and respectful, responsive
companion to Miller, a best beloved.
 
healing and laughter




 

 
c

  _  


Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:39:41 -0700
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miller




I'm so very sorry Edna..Godspeed beautiful Miller

Marta

 http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/



--- On Thu, 9/22/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:12 PM

Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he
didn't want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in,
vet gave him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and
when I got home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the
entertainment center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when
I picked him up, he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time
to let him go.  Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she
helped him cross over.  We may still have a house full of furbabies but his
leaving has left a hole in our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
Edna, Frank and the Nuisance


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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Good for you!
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters

When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and walk
back into the woods.  We could hear them, but never find them, so because
they were parked where I could get to their cars I began letting the air out
of their tires!


Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars

2011-09-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue
We have them too.   I'm in Santa Rosa, Ca.  about an hour north of San
Francisco.  It's a BIG metropolitan area, but because of development and
the creeks in the area that allow cover, cougars have been spotted in
people's back yards.  I worry, but not for the people -- for the cougars.  I
hate the thought of someone shooting such a magnificent animal that is
clearly in stress or it wouldn't be around a stinking town.  I imagine they
are eating possums, as they are everywhere, thanks to some nitwit who
imported them from Texas or someplace for sport hunting.  People...
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:47 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars

That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and
beautiful.  We don't have any around here, as they were all killed years
ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where do you live
that you still have cougars around?

 On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits 
 ever so often.  If we left things up to nature, there would be no 
 overpopulation of deer, etc.  The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear would 
 keep things in balance.  But of course, we all kow these animals are 
 dangerous and will kill us.  They will if we are stupid and aggrevate 
 them.  Run and that will trigger the preditor instinct.  They have to 
 be hungry before they will deal wth humans.
 My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road.  I even 
 talk to him, he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a 
 stupid old woman. We even have a bear across the river in an old barn 
 and he/she has never bothered anyone arund this area.  In fact, you 
 have to be lucky or really trying to catch sight of them.
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-14 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You shoulda hid behind a car, strewn a few dollar bills on the ground, then
when he came over to pick them up -- BAM! -- baseball bat to the butt!
Well...bet you 'wish' you coulda!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many
deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I
worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn
on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me
sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful
animals.
- Original Message -
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


 On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:
Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt
and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At
least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so
beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have
the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and
lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight.
I don't see how anyone could do it.
  
 _

 I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are 
 so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
 It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally 
 it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes 
 to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing, 
 brave little doe and we call her Tripod.

 Lorrie


 Tripod and she
 in
 our yard

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Re: [Felvtalk] Geese Pigeons

2011-09-14 Thread Bonnie Hogue
This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out and put on my 'fridge.
The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's exam table.  The doctor stands
nearby looking at the chart and saying,  The bad news is you have advanced
case humans...The good news is they've about run their course and you should
be on the mend soon.
Ha!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese  Pigeons

aS A RACE, AREN'T WE A BUNCH.  mAYBE THE ANIMALS SHOULD RISE UP AND DO THE
SAME TO US. I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY GOD I SO PATIENT WITH US. IF
I WERE HE, I WOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO ALL A LONG TIME AGO. 
But then, I guess that is why I am not God, my patience runs thin very fast.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I love Canada geese, they care for their babies together, with other 
 family members babysitting, etc. - not like ducks...poor mom duck has 
 up to 12 babies, and no mate in sight.  Almost all usually are lost.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:19 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese  Pigeons
 
 When we lived in the country on a pond we had Canada geese, and we 
 learned to tell them apart by the markings on their masks. They are 
 extremely intelligent, as well as being elegant beautiful birds. We really
loved them.
 I am sickened now by the knowledge that they are being rounded up as 
 the DNR calls its,  because of people building houses and golf courses 
 on lakes that have always been the habitat of the geese.  The rounds 
 ups are done when the geese are molting and therefore flightless, and 
 I was nearly arrested from interfering in one of those horrible round 
 ups, where they are herded the terrified geese into pens and then gassed
them.
 
 I've never witnessed a pigeon shoot, but I've read about them and they 
 are barbaric and cruel.  I'm glad the Hegins shoot has ended, but I'm 
 sure there are more elsewhere.  How people can enjoy such a sport 
 says a lot about the makeup of humans. We are the most cruel beings on the
face of the earth!
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We
 live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here.  We feed
 them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. 
 We actually recognize them every year because of certain
 markings, etc.  When one loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not
 sure if they ever find another life-mate or not.
  
 I  used  to  go  to  the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. 
 It was sick.  Families having picnics, while their menfolk
 shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in
 dark little traps for days- they were released, totally
 disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight.  They could hardly fly
 up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots
 at them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on
 roofs and fields, dying a slow death.  Others fell right down,
 flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered
 over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their
 necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated
 pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
 and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize
 them humanely.
  
 It  was  like  in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and
blood
 lusty people amusing themselves.
  
 Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
  
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2011-09-13 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.

~b.

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
they ever find another life-mate or not.

I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
Families having picnics, while their menfolk shot at pigeons that had been
confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them
humanely.

It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
people amusing themselves.

Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from
THAT!

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey gebr...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
 
We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
Go figure!
 
When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
in a fair shooting gallery... groups of hunters parked on their backsides
sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single friend would
admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
 
Georgetta


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-- 

Marcia Baronda

Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.

1550 S 2700 Rd.

Herington, Kansas 67449

Phone: 785-466-2501

Cell:785-230-6499

 

 I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or
wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit
humans. They have the same right to exist as we do.  Don Hamilton DVM

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] BreAnne left today

2011-09-12 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Czadna

I'm sorry for the loss of your beloved BreAnne.  Now she suffers no more.

I love Rumi and what you've written makes a sense in this circumstance.  You
took her there, then - when it was 'time'--  brought her home.

Bless you both.

~Bonnie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:56 PM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] BreAnne left today

 


hopefully to meet ToriRose and Isaac at the Bridge.
 
The local vet's euthanisia was really ugly. It happens. ( I thought it would
be easier for her rather than riding for 45 minutes).  The local vet was no
stranger to her.
 
She had had fluids the previous 3 Saturdays.  Our usual vet was not able to
give her as much fluids Saturday because of her breathing.  I came home and
let her out and she disappeared into the woods, coming back when it got
dark.  I put her on the patio to rest Sunday morning.  She lay there awhile
and left and again returned in the darkness as I trusted she would though I
began calling her in midafternoon.
 
Mama (no relation to her)  washed her last night.  Physically, it was time.
You had counseled me that I would know.
 
Some of you know a rough translation of a Rumi poem Whoever brought me to
the tavern will have to take me home.
 
BreAnne was an alpha female - - just over 2 years old.  Her playmate
ToriRose left in February 2010.  Isaac left in February 2011.  She got
really thin last fall and then rebounded.  You helped me with her this
spring when she quit eating and then decided to eat only Fancy Feast beef.
She rebounded in July.  will leave it there.
 
Remaining positives are Mama and Luscious and Shallie Jean and Hope.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
This is a huge problem:  being a rural area no one neuters their anmals,
just let them breed and then give the babies away...
If I could provide funds for animal welfare the majority would be to
free/low cost spay and neuter!   Preventing suffering is easier than
eliminating suffering.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW MORE YEARS.
Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT TO 92.
SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED?  i
WAS THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for $ off or
a dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right now,
between litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All of you
who  rescue, have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many unwanted
cats around here thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only shelter that
would give PALS a break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The have
been turning away cats and dogs because thy simply do not have the room and
they just got a larger facility so they could handle more.  So many in our
area have lost jobs, homes and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being a rural
area no one neuters their anmals, just let them breed and then give the
babies away to anyone who takes them.  Unfortunate because many who take
them do not take good care of them, just let them run loose and if they get
hit by a car o!
 r taken by a coyote, get another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky about who
takes them.  Thy are overrun so let them go without too many questions.  I
would probably go the other way and put them thru a background check before
I even interviewed them.  Then, I would end up keeping them because I could
not find anyone good enough for my babies.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the 
 bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..
 
 Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere 
 yet, OK?
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
 Olvey
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  
 
 I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people 
 so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So 
 here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle 
 keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I 
 doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for 
 the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I 
 have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this 
 nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest.  Her name
is Natalie.
 
 Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of 
 maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only 
 appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!
 
 Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that 
 there's an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name 
 is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to 
 clarify, the reason there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the 
 correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy 
 Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new 
 name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So 
 after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai  Thai for those 
 two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.  
 And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
 are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it 
 inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
 it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
 looking further. - Mark Twain
 
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
  That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but 
  accidents do
 happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, 
 including the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir
prsonality, food, etc.
   MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
   Amen
   On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
   
We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a 
bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a 
serious contingency plan for emergencies!
   

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
If  money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another
non-profit animal organization.  You could leave your property to the
organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you
could define what that means).  If you are wealthy enough, you may even
provide a salary to a care taker.  When the animals are gone from the world,
then the property conveys to the organization.  Thoughts being (a) they are
organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to
'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes
the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should
be very willing to do this.  I'd talk with them (whomever you think is
appropriate).
For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having
enough money to provide for them and the cats.   If you have property (and
other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family.  I
don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I
do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden
relieved.
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money for
their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is the
problem.  Not the money.  
 .

  On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:

 I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever 
 may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their 
 care until they all leave this world.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week

2011-09-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Kelley

So sorry for the loss of Black Tom.  Each cat is special and their life
counts.  It is so difficult to tell when to intervene sometimes.  I hope his
helper comes to see it is not her fault, and to appreciate the times they
spent together.

Peace.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:26 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week

 

His feeder is devastated.  I am sure she blames herself for not taking him
to the vet sooner.  Thanks very much to those of you who offered him
sanctuary.  I can always depend on this list for help.

Kelley

-- 

Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ 

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

 

Please help Trooper!

 

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And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they
should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.

 

- Nathan Winograd

 

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[Felvtalk] Hemy has a home

2011-09-05 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Just an update on that little feral cat I took from my dear aunt's house..

After going to Forgotten Felines for spay (already spayed), partial tail
amputation and general health check, Hemy lived in a pen on my deck for
nearly a month. I would get my upper body in the pen and we would have a
'love fest' of petting, purring, head-butting and cuddling.  Clearly: not a
feral cat.  So I left the pen door open yesterday.  She sniffed all around
the yard, circled several times, returned to the pen to eat and sleep in her
favorite bed.  I called FF about finding her a home, but I think this is her
home, and I'm her person.  I love this little cat.  I suspect she has some
health issues, but I'm delighted to give her a home and in return have her
friendship.

By the way, my dear aunt passed away on Aug. 24.  I visited her the evening
before and she said then the same thing she said every time I saw her:  I'm
so GLAD you have the cats.  Then she'd ask about them and I'd tell her how
each one was doing and how wonderful they are.  It was obviously important
to her that her animals were being cared for, and I think the fact that it
was me ('in the family' and a known cat lover) helped.   I'm happy that my
taking her cats made her happy and gave her a little peace in her time of
transition.

~Bonnie 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Natalie

Good luck with the hurricane!  I hope there is no damage and no frightened
cats!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

 

I'll send the site where we order these little nematodes - but if a nursery
has them, great!  We used to get them from Dr. Goodpet.not sure, where we
get them now.  We are busily preparing for the hurricane.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

 

They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some
nurseries.  I got some at Pike this year.  You can also order them from
online.  I ordered some from Amazon.  I haven't put those out yet so I can
testify to them.  I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through
the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the
mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were
in the shipping process.  I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a
little leary.  But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring
worked great.  Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those
little black ants coming in either.  I think I'll be putting them down every
year from now on.

I'm not sure if they work on ticks.  Seems like they would if ticks spend a
lot of time on the ground.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 From: ho...@sonic.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
 
 Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes?
 What are they called  where do you get them!
 ~Bonnie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
 
 No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes
around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
 
 I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. 
 
 It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had
been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over
a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took
Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also.
Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal
self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them
every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of
tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular
ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them?
 
  Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote: 
  I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for 
  dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember 
  watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal 
  Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended 
  for dogs on it. So
  *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet 
  first about adjusting the dosage.
  
  Cindy  Angel Jackpot
  
  From: molvey...@hotmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
  Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400
  
  
  
  
  It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just 
  discussing it with my feline asthma group.
  
  Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a 
  cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things 
  ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with
no problems.
  Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog 
  size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution 
  isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for 
  fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an
especially bad year.
  Some people in the other group were 

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
This inspired me to tell this story:
I got my heart-cat, Stormy, 15 1/2 years ago.  She was born to a feral
mother.  The woman feeding the mother cat noticed the cat getting fatter and
fatter, then one day suddenly skinny again.  She thought, Uh oh, bet she
had kittens.  So she followed the cat and sure enough, a passel of kittens
had been born, unfortunately in a bucket and (you guessed it I'm sure) it
had rained heavily.  The only one to survive that storm was the grey tabby,
Stormy.  A couple of months later the woman had to move and couldn't take
her kitten, so I got her.  That's why she's named Stormy.  Should've been
named Lucky or   Miracle!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

That's my huge worry, too!
Just think, the two kittens that drowned 2 weeks ago in a flooded backyard
in Brooklyn, NY...I have the third that was scooped out of the water at
night, and got their mom and dad, too.  The baby is only5 wks old.  This was
just the rain - never mind what's coming this weekend!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

On 08-26, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
Natalie
 
Good  luck  with  the  hurricane!   I  hope  there is no damage and no
frightened cats!
 
~Bonnie

I worry more about the millions of homeless cats in NYC DC and NJ than I do
about the people.  These animals have no place to go and people do. I worry
just as much about the pets left behind when their humans evacuate. My
first thoughts are always for the animals, but thankfully my cats are safe.
We are in the eastern mountains right on the border of western Maryland at
3,000 elevation.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks for the belly laugh.now I have to go change!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle

 

A Trip to Costco 

Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for
my loyal pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line when a
woman behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had, an elephant?
So since I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I
didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I
probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that
I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes
coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms. 

I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it
works is, to load your pants pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one
or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it
works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that
practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.) Horrified,
she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food poisoned me.
I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff a poodle's ass and a car hit
me. 

I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was
laughing so hard. 

Costco won't let me shop there anymore. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Tell them: yeah, I’ll declaw my cat if you pull out all your teeth.

That ought to shut them up!

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

 

Problem is declawing is so harmful to adult cats- painful, hard to adjust to, 
it can ruin them. Not right for kittens, but for adults it's just mean, 
torturous.  Just not a good thing to do. There are places that allow cats w 
claws but folks may not think bout that till the last thing. But then grandma 
or whoever dies or goes to an Alzheimer's facility and then who wants a cat 
ruined by declaw. 

 

Gloria

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

It wouldn't be you going without the cat, it would be the cat going without 
you.  I have seen cats given up by their owners grieve and mourn themselves TO 
DEATH.  I've seen cats given away by their owners be fine.  I've seen cats who 
have been declawed suffer.  I have seen cats who have been declawed do 
absolutely fine.  It isn't all as easy as it looks sometimes.

I have not had a cat declawed but I did have one who had to have a mastectomy 
and who I am sure would have been in horrible pain had it not been for the oral 
pain meds the vet prescribed.  I would hope any vet doing declaw surgery would 
provide pain meds.

At any rate I'm 44 so hopefully it would be a while before I  went into a 
nursing home.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously– it is the most 
devastating thing for a cat.  Knowing what I do, I would be more heartbroken 
doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, trust me.  I wonder how a 
cat would feel if 

he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or having their paws 
mutilated?  According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote The Cat that Cried for 
Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such extreme pain that they either 
climb the walls of the cage or sit completely morose and cowering in the 
corner, something that their owners will never see.  I have a copy of an 
article written for NY Times Magazine a few years ago, where a woman writes 
about declawing her older cat because her mother’s oriental rug was being 
scratched up.  It is one of my hand-out’s to adopters – the story is 
heartbreaking, and very typical.  After the hurricane is over, I will scan it 
and post it.  It is probably the best I’ve read, without going into the gory 
details of declawing.

Natalie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

 

Sorry!  This is a 62 email thread in gmail.  I don't know how your email 
program organizes stuff.  Anyway I did not look at the date.

I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to death 
after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather declaw them.  
Hopefully I will not need to make that choice.  

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

OMG – you are responding to a post from March……I thought that I was going crazy 
and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW!

 

There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are declawed…I 
guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing everywhere instead 
of possibly scratching something, and it would most likely be the tenants’ own 
furniture!

 

I would rather give my cat away than declaw it – especially when it’s an older 
cat – it’s so much harder on them (not that it isn’t on young(er) cats).

 

There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the 
psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be.  We have had a few 
abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all of them…..but all the 
damage had already been done, and what was I to do – throw them out or kill 
them?  I found some homes that understood the ramifications and dealt with the 
problems as well as they could.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

 

Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate enough to 
find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is likely to require 
declawing.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with
claws.  Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or
scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old.  And as I 

Re: [Felvtalk] Blind, declawed cat

2011-08-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Natalie
You are a saint for helping this poor animal.  Best of luck to him and you.
I will pray the right home is found for him.
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Blind, declawed cat

OMG, that poor baby.  How could anyone be that cruel.


On 08-24, Natalie wrote:
 
We  just  got  a  9-yr  old blind and declawed cat, and healthy
- poor thing was stumbling around in a neighborhood, and only
after about 2 weeks it was determined that he cannot see. 
Nobody was looking for him; obviously abandoned.  Now, I'm
trying to find him a small and quiet home...he has to be
approached quietly and forewarned that you're there.


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

2011-08-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes?
What are they called  where do you get them!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes 
around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES.  

It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place.  I had been 
using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river 
and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet 
for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also.  Vet gave her a 
long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they 
called and said she was loaded with seed ticks.  I check them every time they 
come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament.  I 
have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks.  Anyone else 
haeing a big problem with them?

 Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote: 
 I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for 
 dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember 
 watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal 
 Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended 
 for dogs on it. So
 *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet 
 first about adjusting the dosage.
 
 Cindy  Angel Jackpot
 
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400
 
 
 
 
 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just 
 discussing it with my feline asthma group.
 
 Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems.  I have a 
 cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard.  That is making things 
 ten times worse.  I've been using Revolution for several years now with no 
 problems.
 Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog 
 size and split it up between the cats.  I don't know if the Revolution 
 isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for 
 fleas.  If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially 
 bad year.
 Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes 
 switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a 
 tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is 
 processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them 
 for so long.  Who knows.  If you've been using Advantage maybe you 
 should try Revolution or Frontline Plus.  I believe Frontline Plus 
 kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that 
 might be a good one too.  I hate using all these chemicals on my cats 
 but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few 
 ferals that live here that I can't touch.
 
 I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to 
 do something.  I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone 
 else is saying all these chemicals for yards say don't get on skin, 
 don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off 
 until it dries
 and that really scares me.  If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the 
 yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad.  
 But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I 
 just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth.  I've been using Flea 
 Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product.  Well, I just 
 sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet 
 because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll 
 take a while to make a difference.  But if anyone wants to try them I 
 got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95.  I think you can order them 
 online also.  I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks.
 
 The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store.  It's the food 
 grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are 
 thinking of trying it check your feed stores first.  I got a 50 lb bag 
 for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever.  I can't believe how 
 little it takes.  I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had.  
 I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and 
 putting a little in my cat's coats.  It's very very very dusty so you 
 

Re: [Felvtalk] Mooshu Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sherry
I'm so sorry to hear you lost Mooshu.  I know grumpy cats -- and god bless
them!  They usually have good reason.  I'm sure your Mooshu knew you cared,
and he purred his gratitude.
May you both find peace.
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Sherry DeHaan
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mooshu Please add to the CLS :(

You didn't have to tell him, he knew by your actions and the sound of your
voice.  Don't ever second guess yourself and wonder what if or did I.  
 Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 We lost another wonderful Black boy today. My Mooshy man was a big grumpy
old boy,but I sure loved him for almost 6 years. I will ALWAYS remember the
first time I got him to purr for me...I cried like a baby.He came into Sids
just after I started volunteering and I was determined to make that grumbly
boy purr. :) I know he knew he was loved,I told him often,but sadly I cant
recall telling him on Monday when I was there...I hope I did.
 I will miss you Mooshy Man
 Sherry
 
 
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than 
 our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way


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Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

2011-08-20 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I continue to be amazed by her progress.  I can't stand the idea of her in that 
cage for two or three more weeks.  I'm torn between buying a bigger cage (hard 
to afford right now) and releasing her sooner, say in 3 or 4 more days.  I 
think she might stick around.  My biggest fear is that she might try to return 
to my aunt's house, about 5 blocks away.
Im torn.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

I have always said that animals are more honest with us than we are with them.
I am just happy that Hemi found an honest, loving person.  I have had 3 ferals. 
 It took me an average of 6 - 8 months to gain complete trust, but oce tey 
passed that threshold, there was no turning back.  They became the biggest 
lovers, greatest lap sitters and demanded to be on the bed at night.  Shows 
what a little love can do.  


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 You are right. She is not feral, she just hasn't been loved. I have 
 one inside my house right now who is over 10 years old, never been 
 touched by a human, outside all his life,  felt behind when his 
 caretaker  was put in a nursing home. I could not touch him for 
 awhile. Now I can pick him up  he just purrs!~

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:24 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!


Today when I fed Hemy (she’s in a cage on my back covered deck) she ate while I 
was there.  I spoke to her and reached a finger through the cage to touch her 
head.  No problem.  Then, when I came back to clean her litter box, I took a 
chance and placed my hand on the floor of the cage and remained still.  She 
moved closer, then nudged my hand.  I stroked her cheek and she moved her head 
around in obvious pleasure.  I petted her a few moments and she purred. This is 
a “feral” cat who has, after tail amputation and being moved from her familiar 
surroundings, been in a cage on my back deck for only Five Days!
I’d say she is more afraid and cautious than feral, wouldn’t you?
I’m keeping her in the cage for now, and will go slowly so she doesn’t feel 
pressured.  But what a little sweetheart.  It pains me to think of how horribly 
humans have been to her, yet she is willing to forgive and perhaps trust again. 
 Bless her!
~Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] London Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-17 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sherry, I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad - and the cats are surely
glad - that you have the heart and the stamina to continue to care for them,
even when time is so short together.

Bless you, and bless London on his journey.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:52 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] London Please add to the CLS :(

 


Well the hearache just keeps on coming...London was a wonderful former Sids
kid that had a chance to be in his own home since February.He indured having
to lose a leag and a few other ailments,but he was a charming lovebug that
always looked pissed.But was ALWAYS very happy,he just had the look. :) I
almost adopted him myself back in January after losing my Xander.When the
whole Wednesday night crew got wind of me possibly adopting him,there were
threats of them all coming to visit EVERY wednesday. I was ok with that. But
I just wasn't ready for another yet and wonderful Cheryl took him home
shortly after.He was a great cat with a GREAT purrsonality...I love you
London and I will miss you sweetie  :(

Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way

 

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