Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-31 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I fill litter boxes with water and put in places where I don't want my cats to use the floor for the toilet.It is said that cats don't like the feel of aluminum too.So, maybe a dollar shower curtain ,the aluminum material,and the smell of citrus,will keep them off your couch.Cathy From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-12-12 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
i HAVE SOME THAT DO THAT ALSO.tHE HIGHER RUBBER MAID PLASTIC BOXES SEEM TO HELP.CATHY From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home A couple of

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-11-02 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Oh. It is said that all black cats originated from Bombay India. From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com To: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home Bombay

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-11-02 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
if u do a web search ,it shows you cats, It says they are medium size,JET BLACK,gleaming coat,GOLD TO COPPER EYES,sweet,facial expression.I have several all black cats,Naya, Ebony,Onyx,Heidi then I have black with the white on its chest which people call the collar in French, Bernie 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-11-01 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
wonderful of you..Miss Kitty sounds like a real Bombay kitty.Cathy From the Bronx N Y From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com To: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Cc: craig white craiglwh...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-10-29 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Until he finds a home a box,and towels will help keep him warm. Get him to the Bronx N Y and I'll take him From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home Hi guys Are any of

Re: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story

2012-10-21 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Hi, that is a nice storyIn Jan.2005 I was standing outside my house and something just flew by. I said to my neighbor was that a rat or a kitten.? Well, it was a kitten and he ran right inside my house. He is gray,with white feet,small,and his nam is M M..Also, a mother cat who

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
around here doesn't say where you are?? From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat I (and others) use the term ``pound'' for all so-called

[Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
That is one reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with FELV,because it hits all at once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live a long time.The lady that had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats without FELV don't live that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next

Re: [Felvtalk] Need advice for our cat Oliver

2012-10-10 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I heard that too. Plastic can do it.I also read in Joey's Green book to: wash the area with ivory soap.Also, apply Fruit of the Earth Aloe Vera.I use paper,metal,ceramic dishes. Sometimes plastic gets used too.Cathy Bronx N Y From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island

2012-10-10 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Hey, I'll forward this to Neighborhood cats,the do TNR in N Y. If it helps I can take one.CAthy ,in th Bronx N Y From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Searching For Foster People / No Kill /

Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

2012-10-08 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Ok .Litter topic...I have 60 cats . I use Cedarific...It is light weight...the pellets only breakdown when peed on.I hate clumping...So, pine trees win...Cathy Bronx N Y  From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] sOMETHING IS WRONG.

2012-10-07 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] sOMETHING IS WRONG. I'm getting a message saying my message

[Felvtalk] sOMETHING IS WRONG.

2012-10-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I'm getting a message saying my message is too long. this is the second time this happened.My message is the most three lines. I told the person that a wet cloth or cotton ball dipped in Star Olive Oil kills fleas,It came from the book Joey Green's pet cures.Thanks. C L

[Felvtalk] me and my kitties will pray for Barnaby

2012-09-18 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Why did they let him out ? Did he want ot come out? Did you try catnip,and sardines? From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts I pray that he is still

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends

2012-09-18 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
good luckuse a harness.if he is in a safe place,with food,water,you know what he needs,you don't have to be home...Cathy From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:20 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

2012-08-15 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I GOT YOUR MESSAGE. From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet I'm here also with just one young cat who needs retesting.  She's getting

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-05-29 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
RACCONS eat everything.The Bronx zoo told someone to gie them lettuce. Maybe you can leave lettuce,apples.grapes,outside.for them.If not don't leave the dry overnite,and maybe they wont come back.Cathy Bronx. N Y From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-09 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
PETCO HAS THEM From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Val Green harpestry...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Where did you get a stainless steel fountain?  Val Green

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.

2012-01-14 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
OH GOOD .TKS From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday. Hi,Sorry, thought Julie had gotten the word to you all.   She was going to go get her,

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.

2012-01-11 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I'M IN THE BRONX. I HAVE OLDER CATS AND FELV CATS... I HAVE ALOT OF CATS BUT THEY ARE TAKEN CARE OF. CATHY From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.

2012-01-10 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
ill take her..i'm in new york city  From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: cdza...@gmail.com Cc: Karineh Grigorian petsalon...@yahoo.com; felineleuke...@yahoogroups.com; aa...@aol.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; kitty4...@juno.com kitty4...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10,

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Booster

2011-12-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Last week my vet said one is better than none. I was surprised ,but glad. From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Booster I agree – if you keep the cat strictly inside, you wouldn’t even have to use

Re: [Felvtalk] Vet meds

2011-10-20 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
tks everyone, this is great infoCAthy luvyasammie --- On Thu, 10/20/11, Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote: From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet meds To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 7:54 AM Thanks Gary! I will keep

Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

2011-09-07 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
The virus isn't airborne. it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but they r with my other cats.  --- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com wrote: From: April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more

2011-09-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
last week,or the week before,the same day as the earthquake in NY.I had a gas pipe break on my street . The fireman knocked on everyones door:we had to leave our homes.I didn't want to leave my cats. He said I had to get out. He also said no cats got out when the door was open. I left my

Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more

2011-09-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
, some would have to be trapped - it would be a nightmare! Don’t even want to think about that. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject

[Felvtalk] CLOSE THE DOOR

2011-09-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more   last week,or the week before,the same day

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

2011-08-27 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
so true,but this will only be for a day. keep the cats together,leave plenty of food,they should be fine.I know,believe me, I'm in NY .I didn't feel the earthquake,but a gas line broke out side my house. The fireman said I had to leave.I have alot more than 15 cats. But, I left ,locked my

Re: [Felvtalk] Rescue people

2011-08-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
me too. Most rescuers I don't get along with. --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescue people To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 7:09 AM I have a rescue shelter, which is a

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I agree. I take the flys out of my outside  cat's drinking water to save them. --- On Sat, 8/6/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date:

Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

2011-08-03 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Well. the sexiest living animal was my Momma Tulip. I watched her a couple of times,before she was fixed,and she had some moves. The guys didn't have a chance.You know Momma Tulip is a cat. --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Transmission - thanks for replies

2011-05-20 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
MAYBE TULO WASN'T FELV. HE could of had a heart condition,or cancer,or other things. --- On Fri, 5/20/11, Debbie Bendell dbendell1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Debbie Bendell dbendell1...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV Transmission - thanks for replies To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date:

Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?

2011-03-15 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Good for you. Mine r healthy too. If it an broke ,don't fix it. It the cat tests neg. why wait for it to be positive? regards, CAthy --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant? To:

Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?

2011-03-15 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
The Best Little Cat House In Pa. Lynn Stitt --- On Tue, 3/15/11, dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote: From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date:

Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?

2011-03-15 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Get him to NY and I'll take him --- On Tue, 3/15/11, dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote: From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday,

Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?

2011-01-19 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just

Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?

2011-01-19 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
are basically healthy it's not much of an issue.  But with cats with compromised immune systems, whether they are kittens or elderly or FIV+ or FeLV+ or dealing with cancer, then they are more susceptible to all sorts of things. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Hi, my experience is  that very young kittens don't live long. But, other than that my cats are vaccinated, I have a few postive cats. I have water drinking fountains, and they are all together.Your kitten is strong, I think you should   let her/him out with your other cats.Cathy  --- On Mon,

Re: [Felvtalk] I killed my kitten last night...

2010-11-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
That was time... --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Kim kim_ferri...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Kim kim_ferri...@embarqmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] I killed my kitten last night... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 2:52 PM I am having such a hard time today

Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.

2010-10-27 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
so sorry. I thougth he was doing better. I know how it feels,I lost several. Did he go naturally at home? CAthy --- On Tue, 10/26/10, paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com wrote: From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date:

Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

2010-10-11 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
HI, It might have been to much,or not mixed enough. My vet has a tube,Varalys,oral gel for cats.Each 1.25 ml contains 250mg of L-lysineHCI in a highly palatable base. I copied that from the tube.CAthy--- On Mon, 10/11/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over

2010-09-27 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
It was good you were with her. Of cause she blinked at you.But, we all have a time to go. I know what you feel. Regards,Cathy --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat Cheshire crossing over To:

Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-02 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? Thankyou --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
THANKYOU.CATHY --- On Fri, 10/2/09, Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:12 AM Here here! I wish we

Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan

2009-08-29 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
HI, IS IMULAN USED WHEN THE CATS AREN'T DOING WELL? I HAVE A COULPLE WITH FELV ,BUT THEY ARE PERFECTLY HEALTHY. SHOULD I BE GIVING THEM SOMETHING NOW.?tHANKS  --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Embarq Customer dag...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Embarq Customer dag...@embarqmail.com Subject:

Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary

2009-08-19 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
HI, Try BEST LITTLE CATHOUSE IN PA..LYNN STITT.HARRISBURG PA 17112, 717 469 2540  CATHY. u CAN TELL LYNN I GAVE YOU THE INFO. CATHY DIDONNA --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Donna Hotz dhotz...@gmail.com wrote: From: Donna Hotz dhotz...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I

Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

2009-08-11 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I BELIEVE WHEN THE TIME TO GO IS HERE,one goes. I won't kill any cat. If she isn't in pain let her go when her time is here,and being with you couldn't be better. I've been through itCathy --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

2009-06-29 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
can u put the box in the bath tub? You need something as high or higher than the opening. I use large storage bins for liter boxes,and believe me, they can jump in them. regards, Cathy --- On Mon, 6/29/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA? On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for free when there is room

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
the ASPCA sends cats there. --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:30 PM Wouldn't it depend on

Re: [Felvtalk] Qs re CA/Urgent: FeLV+ senior boy needs money to get to sanctuary

2009-05-26 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
wHERE are you located? Where is the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for free when there is room.REgards. C --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Qs re CA/Urgent: FeLV+ senior boy

Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone out there?

2009-05-12 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
thankyou.cathy --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone out there? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 9:37 AM Back at you Kelley! -Original Message- From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin

2009-05-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
hi, sorry it took so long to answer. I went to the vet on May 1,and he gave meProzyme13 dram. He said put 1/4 tsp in food once a day.IT COST $8. sINCE BOSCO'S blood count is down,he gave mePet-Tinic 4ml 8ml 2x daily by mouth . This is a vitamin-mineral palatable liquid . It is 4fl oz for $12.

Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin

2009-05-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
it on amazon.com cheaper.  I bought  a large quantity for some ferals a few months ago.  I can't recall the price but it was very good.  Good luck. On May 5, 2009, at 2:46 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: hi, sorry it took so long to answer. I went to the vet on May 1,and he gave meProzyme13 dram. He said put 1

Re: [Felvtalk] vaccine

2009-02-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
i get all my cats vaccinated for felv,and never had a problem. Cathy --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Lynne menar...@cogeco.ca wrote: From: Lynne menar...@cogeco.ca Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 4:20 PM Thank you Tanya. If we decide to get

Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

2008-10-12 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I FEEL FOR YOU .I lost My Mickey,a female, to cancer..But Tiger I lost to felv..How I loved themCathy  Keep up the good work,Don't know about the leg problem. Are they related? ? --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL