Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries
I agree Susan, the more humans available, the more likely the sanctuary to be a good one. There are a few 'in home' ones that are good too. Depending on how many animals you can handle financially. We started with only one building and we now have a brand new sixth one being completed inside (with clinic room for my med tech and for my vet to work in when he comes on site, and 9 staff and 12 volunteers and we live ON the property. Our home houses 29 hospice kitties, the diabetics and some other more intense medical needs cats. We only do special needs and there is s a need for more good sanctuaries to take FeLV cats and 'adoption challenged' furs. And someone made a good point about planning ahead for the care of their kitties when they are gone. We too, have that plan in place when the two founders (wanda and I) are gone.That is s important, no matter how many kitties you have. We have a 'Safety Net' program just for that. And we actually have one building that a lady from another Iowa county built 'just for her cats' paid for it all and she could no longer care for them, so they are here. All their care is paid for for their lifetimes and when they are gone, the building becomes the property of our sanctuary. That was a first for us. But it won't be the last I am sure. All we have to do is be good caregivers-and her plan states the care and food, etc as she wants them to have. They also have TV's with Catsitter videos playing and access to outdoor area this summer as we still ened to screen in the outdoor porch.Carmen and furs at Rustic Hollow Shelter ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries
If you are considering any sanctuary for your animals, please visit that sanctuary personally to see how the animals are cared for and if it is what it says it is. Our special needs sanctuary for felines has five very nice buildings and a brand new large sixth building is being completed or will be by March. It will have a clinic room for our med tech and spay/neuter clinics, a storage bay, overnight guest 'apartment' for volunteers who come and help us and room for cats. The PETA report on the S.C. sanctuary is horrific and it also gives the word 'sanctuary' a bad rap. We need more positive stories. Just be sure to visit if you take an animal to any so called 'sanctuary. It is very important. We always tell people to come either first, or take the kitty home with you if we are not the fit for your cat. It is the staff that makes the difference for us, the board and our volunteers as well. We have a couple cats coming from a so-called 'rescue' (gone bad) and the animal welfare groups we are working with are doing what they can for the animals. The cats have been kept i 1.2 x2' cages one since she was 9 weeks old and she is 5 years old now. Needless to say she is kind of 'crazy' and adoption challenged. I have never been to Caboodle Ranch but there have been many problems there. On Facebook you will find a lot of information from Caboodles Angels, all who have taken a cat there and it went missing very quickly.. Carmen and furs at Rustic Hollow Shelter. www.rustichollowshelter.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Message 6: Finding homes for cats upon death
To Dorlis- Hi from C W Rustic Hollow Shelter in Nashua, Iowa. We are the sanctuary you contacted. We have over 375 cats in five separate homelike atmosphere..cage free...TV's with Catsitter videos and outdoor environments to watch the 'real bird TV' in a screened in 'catio' for three seasons of the year. There are nine staff to care for the felines daily. and 25 volunteers. We have two new buildings and the newest one is 36'x63' and will have an infirmary for our medical technician and our vet to use when he is on site, a storage bay and of course, cats in the larger areas. And an upper level apartment area for overnight guests and volunteers... we are excited about it. Our website is: www.rustichollowshelter.org there are two YouTube videos of our buildings (most of them) inside and outside on the grounds as well. Carmen and furballs at C W ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 3
1. RE. Immunity. Hi, Lorrie, I read with interest your post and wanted to weigh in on an interesting circumstances that happened at our sanctuary some years ago which made us determine that we had to test every cat and kitten in a litter. We had a mother cat come in who was pregnant. She was NEGATIVE for any virus (several tests) She had five kittens. Two of those kittens were Positive FeLV and three were negative (from then on) Since then we have had others tell us a similar story. Something to do in the breeding part I believe. The post made me think of that mother cat and her five kittens. Carmen On 6/2/10, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Immunity (jbero tds.net) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:51:31 -0500 From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunity Message-ID: aanlktilhtxtw3kbmkkaipf-j2thj4p56vmwlic4nl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting question. I guess that answer would be, it depends. If he was exposed to the virus, and he probably was given the close contact litter mates have, it is possible he has developed an immunity. To the best of my knowledge, vets do not currently measure antibody titers to felv - not sure why. I could look into it. (the presence of certain titer of antibody infers immunity). It is possible he was never exposed to the virus, but given the history seems unlikely. Finally, is it possible for a cat to be exposed, beat the virus and on repeat exposure develop disease. Anything is possible, but unless he becomes immunosuppressed it's not likely. I guess, I would consider it highly likely he has developed an immunity given his history, negative viral status and current age. Of course a false negative is always possible, but also unlikely given repeat testing. Is there a reason you are asking this? If you plan on introducing another felv cat it may be worth while simply vaccinating him anyway. Hope that helps. Jenny On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: In 2008 I rescued a litter of kittens. All of them were positive except one. He tested negative, and retesting has shown he is still negative. Since he is negative and his immune system beat the virus his litter mates (all gone now) had does this mean he is now immune to FelV? Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 3 *** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (FeLV talk) Sanctuaries
I am a member of this list who doesn't get a chance to spend time responding to posts, but I would like to encourage those looking into sanctuaries to be sure to visit them if at all possible and that is a great idea about asking what happens to the cats or the sanctuary if the founders die or can no longer care for the animals. That is an essential part of questions to ask all sanctuaries as there are a lot of them out there that make the rest of us look 'bad' it seems. I am the director and co-founder of C W Rustic Hollow Shelter in Iowa and I know Laurie and MC and Sharyl are familiar with our work and we always tell people if they are thinking of taking any cat to a rescue or sanctuary they absolutely should go themselves or send someone they know to check it out. We have solid plans to continue past us and our board would make the decision at that point to not take any more cats except those who are planned to come here when it is time, or to go ahead and continue the sanctuary as it is now. We have five buildings at this time and are building a sixth one this fall. But your ideas are so 'right on' about visiting places and finding out the plans for their future. Great ideas. Also, our FeLV areas have cats that are over 5 years and lost one this summer who was 18 and had one other live to be 19 years ago. That's the exception not the rule, however. Five years is a critical period for FeLV kits and sometimes no matter how much you do for them, the end result is the same. Our philosophy is it is 'quality of their lives, not the quantity and that is what we strive for. Carmen and furballs at C W Rustic Hollow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] to Michael
Hi, to all and Michael, I'd love to hear more about your FeLV kits and Second Chance Meow. Carmen furballs at C W ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg
I am writing in response to Lauries note about Isabella. I have had several negative FeLV cats that have been mixed with the FeLV positives over the years and NONE of them ever acquired a positive status to the FeLV. It is definitely NOT an airborne disease in any way and it takes a very prolonged exposure for any negative cats to even possibly acquire the FeLV UNLESS they are bitten and direct blood is passed. Most adult cats are simply immune to FeLV and IF exposed at all, simply shed it off-they do not test postive even if living with those kitties. We have worked with hundreds of FeLV kitties over the last 25 years, and the non positives who lived with even the sympomatic positives did not become positive in their long lifetimes. One recently died of old age-not FeLV. Anyway, most people and some vets still have a pretty healthy fear of FeLV, but for those of us who have worked with these wonderful kitties for awhile and have them for companion animals, experience is a great calmer of all fears of FeLV positives. Carmen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better understand FeLV
We have 40 FeLV cats (and several kittens) at our special needs sanctuary where they live in cage free environment with outdoor enclosed screened in areas to spend time in. I so applaud those of you who care for a FeLV kitty and offer them a forever home til there time is up. We work with rescues all across the U.S. and there are just not enough homes to go around for these special kits. I wanted to add my thoughts to the survey list: We have cats from 4 months to 12 years currently residing at our sanctuary home. We use Alpha interferon in their water daily and occasionally use oral for some of the cats. They are fed Purina Pro Plan dry and get canned food every day. The interferon in the water does help their immune systems we feel. I have had several non positive cats live with the positives and they remained negative throughout the years they were living with the FeLV cats. They also did not fight. The kitties we lost to FeLV have lymphomas, cancer, anemia (with cancer usually) or sudden total system failure (most likely caused by an undetected cancer at the time). The kittens we have worked with include: a family whose mother and two siblings died of FeLV after rescue, and four other youngsters that arrived to live with us for their lives-only one of those is still with us and doing just fine. The others we have are getting close to one year or two years and both of those ages we find to be critical times for FeLV cats- If they live through age 2 we see little health problems until age five-and then some become symptomatic at age five and others do not and can go on to live longer healthy lives. All of our FeLV are very healthy robust cats until they become symptomatic. These cats have little stress in their lives and are very happy to be back outside in their outdoor areas with the weather starting to be nice in Iowa now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ALL KITTENS NEGATIVE !!!! YIPPE !!!!!!!!!
That's really good news!! We've seen a lot of pos. moms and many of the kittens are negative. And on occasion we had a negative mom (on three tests) have 2 pos. kittens out of five. the rest were negative. We learned then we had to test every kitten every time, no matter what. that was a long time ago, and we've seen what you have experienced with your kittens recently in a nearby humane society to us. Mom positive and kittens negative each time tested. they are older now and were adopted. Good luck! Carmen Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:48:33 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ALL KITTENS NEGATIVE YIPPE ! This is a story that I am hoping will give those of you who have a positive Mom, with a litter of kittens, some hope! I was told by so many rescues and cat related people and vets etc that because Mom tested positive, the kitten would no doubt be also. I was also told by the rescue I am working with, that the loner I could wait to test them, the better chance they have of *throwing it off* and they get it in their system from the mom's milk. Well, on October 13th, they *ALL* tested negative !~ So..there is hope for kittens of positive Mom's ! They were born between June 20th and June 27th, so waiting until October gave them lots of time... and it worked! Thank goodness. You can see lots of photos of them and read the story here on my forum. I have the most gorgeous photos of each one by themselves in the bottom post The first post has the story about them and videos of them. Enjoy .it is a wonderful outcome and I hope it encourages anyone who needs it :) :) http://www.animalsspeak.org/2008-09-00-a-rescue-story-successful-not-successful-sigh-t1238.html#p2015 Pamela Myers www.AnimalsSpeak.org Register: http://tinyurl.com/58txeu http://letstalkpetfoods.wordpress.com/ www.ElegantBow-tique.com Quote from various consumers! sigh I called the Pet Food Company and they said their foods are 100% safe ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Michelle, I am relatively new to the group, but I do agree with Beth that it is important to test all the kittens. We used to do what your vet said y ears ago, then discovered on more than one occasion since, that if a mom is negative it does not mean the kittens ARE negative. We had a case where mom was negative all the time and 2 of her five kittens were positive FeLV and the rest were always negative. If there is no hurry, I'd do what you can this month and test another or two the next month to help with expenses. Do you have a rescue group nearby that uses the IDEXX tests and does their own testing? WE can do it for way less than the vets can even order the tests and they might help you too. good luck with them. Carmen and furballs at C W Rustic Hollow Shelter. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:15:37 + Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens. Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?
We work with a large number of special needs animals and yes, we have had experience with a negative mother (several tests) who had five kittens and 3 were negative and two were positive. So we have to test all kittens and mom from any litters we might see even if mom is negative. I've seen this at least two times. So it does happen. possibly you are right Laurie about the different dads. HAS to be, doesn't it? The others did NOT get the FeLV being with them either. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:31:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative? Different dads?? I have NO ideahave never heard of this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative? Meant for the group. I don't know what to tell you. The litter of 4 I rescued all tested positive. I have no experience where on half the litter tests positive and half negative. Sharyl --- On Sun, 9/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Some positive, some negative? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 2:05 PM Hello. I'm wondering if anyone has any idea how the following could have happened, and what they'd recommend: I work at an animal shelter and a few weeks ago, a woman dropped off a mama cat with four nursing kittens. The kittens looked to be about 3 weeks old. I brought the cat and kittens home and have been caring for them in a large dog crate. They're all active and healthy looking. Last week I brought them to the Vet for their FIV/FeLV combo test. I was shocked when two of the kittens tested positive for FeLV. They used the snap test, but also sent blood to the lab on the mama cat. Her result came back negative. I've heard that the virus can be transient and can be fought off in rare instances, but this is so odd. Has anyone else ever heard of this hap pening. I know I need to have everyone re-tested in a few weeks. In the meantime, I do have them all together. My thought was that if the Mom and the two negative kittens haven't caught it from the two positive kittens by now, they won't catch it. But maybe I should separate them. I don't know. I commented to someone I work with that at least we won't have a problem adopting out the mother cat and the two negative kittens, but she said that since they've been exposed to the virus, they can transmit it to other cats. Two veterinarians I spoke to have no clue. P.S. I=2 0know the kittens didn't catch the virus from my FeLV+ kitty as she was living in the upstairs and they are in the basement and I changed clothing and scrubbed up and there were hours between the time I'd handle her and then them. Thank you. Adrienne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Opinions on Testing new cats for FELV
Hi, Michelle, Your post caught my attention. I would tend to agree with your veterinarian about the one month time for testing. Even for kittens. I have worked with Feline Leukemia cats since 1985 and we currently have around 25-35 at any given time. IN spite of the fact that kittens are more susceptible to FeLV, etc. I do agree that if they come up negative, they probably will remain negative. We have several test cases with adult cats, as has my shelter vet who has her own FeLine Leukemia sanctuary, where adult cats that are negative living with the FeLV cats remain negative all their lives. You'll get as many opinions as there are people, but do what you feel is best for the two kits. If your two month old kittens show no signs of any health symptoms, my feeling would be that they are going to test negative. Good luck with them. I would be interested to learn the ages that your FeLV sanctuary cats lived to be, and what were the illnesses that eventually took their lives. I am always interested in learning more from others with experience. Thanks, Carmen (I know, I'm mostly a lurker here, but I love reading the posts when I get the chance!!) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:51:13 + Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Opinions on Testing new cats for FELV I have two female cats that I rescued from a shelter in the first week of August (one had a litter of kittens 2 days after I picked them up).I have had them for a month now. They have been in the same room but have had no contact with eachother or the others dishes, litterbox, etc.(they sleep in their own giant dogs crates and have little litter boxes and food and water and everything so it's almost like what you see at shelters) They each get 12 hours in their crate and 12 hours out in the room so they don't stir crazy - when the other one is out the crate is turned so they can't see eachother or have face to face contact. I am unfortunately very familiar with feline leukemia, we had a sanctuary for FELV+ cats and our last one just died last October so I am very cautious and aware of the disease and probably know more than most do about it. Because of this though I think maybe I'm paranoid about it. The kittens are a month old now and really need to have free roam of the room so I was going to get the mom cat and the other girl I have tested so they can cohabitate in the room until they get fixed and to new homes. I have 12 personal cats and don't have any 'free rooms' to let them each have one or I would do that. A rescuer bailed last minute which is how I ended up with two cats. I'm just worried that the incubation period for FELV is 2 months and it's only been one month and I don't know where they came from or what they were exposed to prior to me getting them. I also know FELV in adult cats, usually takes prolonged exposure unless it was transmitted inutero. SO - am I being too paranoid? Should I just get them tested and not worry about it if it comes back neg?My vet said a month should be a fair place to test them at and he's never had a neg come back pos later on Michelle Brockman _ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Buzz emancipated
Hi Sue, Our Saffron kitty was a HUGE washer and lover of everyone. He slept with four in a kitty bed and they'd sneeze on him and everything. And I wouldn't say that he had the greatest immune system in the world either. I do believe that many cats simply build up resistance to the FeLV virus and are more immune to it. Saffron washed everyone and they washed him. We miss him. He had several ear surgeries for polyps but he lived to be over 19. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Buzz emancipatedDate: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:30:05 -0400 Hi,Carmen. It's good to hear of the success stories. My other cats chase each other a lot but I don't think they do much biting. Charllie is the loveable one who thinks it is his job to wash everybody, though. He is the one I am most worried about. - Original Message - From: Carmen Conklin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: RE: Buzz emancipated Hi Sue, Glad to hear you are letting Buzz out into the general population. We have had good success with mixing our FeLV kits with non positive cats. We have had 4 different felines who lived in close association with the other felines and they did NOT have a FeLV vaccination either. They never got it. One lived with the FeLV's for over 3 years and then we moved him to another home. Another lived to be very old. They never fought, or bit, so never got it and the FeLV virus dies pretty quickly if a cat sneezes, etc..We put interferon in the water daily to boost all of them, but we have had a good success rate for mixing. And Buzz will be happier I am sure. Carmen (mostly a lurker, but have posted a few times)! Have a great day. Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:39:13 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Buzz emancipated Hello, everyone, This coming Friday the last of my 5 FeLV- cats will get his booster. Then I will wait the appropriate amount of time and release Buzz from his prison room into the general population. I am scared to death. I would rather continue to keep them seperate but Buzz is crazy to escape his room every time we open the door and the time I spend behind the closed door with him is taking away from my family, not to mention the other cats. My question is this; is there anything anyone knows of besides the vaccinations that I can do for my other cats that may help to protect them? They are all being fed the Wellness canned food. Buzz will soon be getting a vitamin suppliment that is supposed to boost the immune systems of FeLV+ cats that my vet found, but I doubt if it does anything to stop the virus from shedding. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Sue Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008
RE: Buzz emancipated
Hi Sue, Glad to hear you are letting Buzz out into the general population. We have had good success with mixing our FeLV kits with non positive cats. We have had 4 different felines who lived in close association with the other felines and they did NOT have a FeLV vaccination either. They never got it. One lived with the FeLV's for over 3 years and then we moved him to another home. Another lived to be very old. They never fought, or bit, so never got it and the FeLV virus dies pretty quickly if a cat sneezes, etc..We put interferon in the water daily to boost all of them, but we have had a good success rate for mixing. And Buzz will be happier I am sure. Carmen (mostly a lurker, but have posted a few times)! Have a great day. Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:39:13 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Buzz emancipated Hello, everyone, This coming Friday the last of my 5 FeLV- cats will get his booster. Then I will wait the appropriate amount of time and release Buzz from his prison room into the general population. I am scared to death. I would rather continue to keep them seperate but Buzz is crazy to escape his room every time we open the door and the time I spend behind the closed door with him is taking away from my family, not to mention the other cats. My question is this; is there anything anyone knows of besides the vaccinations that I can do for my other cats that may help to protect them? They are all being fed the Wellness canned food. Buzz will soon be getting a vitamin suppliment that is supposed to boost the immune systems of FeLV+ cats that my vet found, but I doubt if it does anything to stop the virus from shedding. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Sue _ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008
RE: Introducing Sissy and Rocket
Hi, I SO agree with tonya! Carmen Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:12:16 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Introducing Sissy and RocketTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org If it were me I would trap and neuter the rest of the colony and not test them for felv. tonyaGloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's wonderful that you're doing this. Would be nice if you could find a low-cost spay neuter clinic, or a free service, to help fund the neutering. RE your question about telling the vet, I don't know. If 2 are positive, still doesn't mean all the others are, although of course there's a chance. Any vet should be aware that if the kitty hasn't been tested, there's a potential for FELV or FIV. Neutering is the key to preventing the spread of this, as I understand. Least my take on it. Hope you find a good option for low cost or free neutering. Gloria On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Sharyl wrote: I had been feeding a group of dumpster 8 kittens and ended up rescuing 2, Sissy and Rocket, when they were about 12 weeks old. On their 1st vet visit both tested FeLV+. I will have both retested the end of April to see if they are still positive. I have them quarantined in my garage. They are eating Iams canned kitten food supplemented with a Super B Complex, Lactoferrin and DMG. So far they are responding well and seem very healthy. Both have had their kitten shots and been wormed. If they stay positive I will either find a forever home for them or build an enclosure onto the garage for them. I have 2 indoor kitties and one has CRF so am concerned about bringing them into the house. My questions concern the rest of the colony which includes at least 4 adults. I can not take all of them in. My plan had been to TNR the colony (trap/neuter/release). The vet is recommending euthanizing the entire colony if these 2 stay positive. I am not sure where I will be able to get then neutered if they are positive. And I can not trap them just to have them euthanized. That may be the best thing to do but I just can't do it. Is there any info on how to deal with a FeLV+ feral colony? Any advise on how to get them neutered? Am I obligated to tell the vet about the potential for FeLV when having them neutered? Sharyl Sissy and Rocket ES of VA You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. _ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
RE: Ringworm
Chris, saw your note on ringworm. I'm new here but have bouts of ringworm at our sanctuary occasionally, particularly with my FIV felines as it is harder for them to fight off. It will resolve itself on its own in time, but for cleaning, I use a spray on furniture, bedding, etc-Chlorhexadine which is a terrific sanitizer disinfectant to have on hand. You can spray it on cat food dishes to clean out and it is not harmful to the cats. We spray it on clothing, hands, etc. It will definitely help the environment. Using Program liquid may be helpful in getting rid of the cats ringworm. We simply get over the counter store brand antifungal cream to use as it is way less expensive than through the vets. Many cats are immune and won't get it even if around other cats with ringworm. Most of our FIV cats never get it even with three that do have it. Ringworm is always present in the air around us and the cats most susceptible are medically compromised kitties, senior cats or young kittens. People can get it and not even be around animals. That happened in the middle of Chicago to a friend of mine. Anyway, the disinfectant spray is terrific to use, but common household bleach helps too, though you can't spray that on furniture, etc. Hope this helps. I know others will have other ideas. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RingwormDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:25:59 -0400 A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience is knowledgeable, it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story of how it managed to get in but now I’m really lost. I have meds from vet to apply shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood’s Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can’t keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they’re everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
RE: Ringworm
Hey, Laurie, you too! carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: RingwormDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:27:46 -0600 Hi Carmen, nice to see you here! :-) Laurie - Original Message - From: Carmen Conklin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Ringworm Chris, saw your note on ringworm. I'm new here but have bouts of ringworm at our sanctuary occasionally, particularly with my FIV felines as it is harder for them to fight off. It will resolve itself on its own in time, but for cleaning, I use a spray on furniture, bedding, etc-Chlorhexadine which is a terrific sanitizer disinfectant to have on hand. You can spray it on cat food dishes to clean out and it is not harmful to the cats. We spray it on clothing, hands, etc. It will definitely help the environment. Using Program liquid may be helpful in getting rid of the cats ringworm. We simply get over the counter store brand antifungal cream to use as it is way less expensive than through the vets. Many cats are immune and won't get it even if around other cats with ringworm. Most of our FIV cats never get it even with three that do have it. Ringworm is always present in the air around us and the cats most susceptible are medically compromised kitties, senior cats or young kittens. People can get it and not even be around animals. That happened in the middle of Chicago to a friend of mine. Anyway, the disinfectant spray is terrific to use, but common household bleach helps too, though you can't spray that on furniture, etc. Hope this helps. I know others will have other ideas. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RingwormDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:25:59 -0400 A bit OT but I figure if anyone has had experience is knowledgeable, it would be someone here… Ringworm—suddenly have an outbreak; have 6 cats presently (1 waiting for adopter)—only a couple seem to have it—long story of how it managed to get in but now I’m really lost. I have meds from vet to apply shampoo. BUT how do I clean!I borrowed a Wood’s Lamp from someone and of course I see things glowing everywhere Is the lamp good to check for spores on fabric (clothes, rugs, etc) walls or is it only for checking living things (me and the cats—LOL). I am starting to scrub and clean but now wonder, do I do that massive cleaning every day? I can’t keep the cats confined though I did close them out of one of the bedrooms. Outside of that, they’re everywhere and NOT trained to stay off furniture-LOL. Any tips, suggestions, etc. would be so gratefully appreciated. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 913-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. Get started! _ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008
RE: Ringworm
I saw c on the internet on a site at ValleyVets.com, for $12.95 a gallon ( it is mixed with water-diluted)phone 800-419-9524. You can get it through your veterinarian as ours uses it exclusively in their office to disinfect. But it might be more expensive? perhaps. CarmenI saw chlorhexidine on ValleyVet.com online today. It was $12.95 a gallon and a gallon goes a Ln way. It is diluted with water. Phone was 800-419-9524 Carmen and furballs at C W Rustic Hollow Shelter, Inc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:29:01 -0400Subject: Re: RingwormTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Where can you buy Chlorhexidine? My feed stores don't carry it. I would like to have it on hand! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUETerrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008
RE: new to FeLV
Hi Roxanne, Keep working with him. I'd treat all the symptoms first and see how he is after that. There is always a chance for finding a place for him too. Give him a chance and see if all the health problems don't work themselves out. If not, then you know you did everything you possibly could for him. Carmen (C W) From: Roxane Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: new to FeLV Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Hi, About a week and a half ago we had a stray come to our house. Because I have a FIV cat I took this guy right into the vets office to be tested. He came back FeLV +, we went ahead and neutered him, I would not hear of putting this little black beauty to sleep, he is a great boy, not feral at all. He came home from the vets with a little respiratory issue but we cleared that right up with amoxi. He was just as full of worms as a cat can get, so we've treated him for that but now the diarrhea is really bad and I cannot seem to get if firmed up. He is on Natural Balance, I would like to get him onto raw. This boy has not really shown any signs of illness other then what I've mentioned, and the vet seems to think that his health is not really too bad. I guess I don't know my options and my vet just says that he will do whatever I want but I need more options then death by lethal injection or bring home to watch die. Help! Roxane __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: my 1 1/2 yr old cat is not having bowel movements?need advice(jayden)
Hi. I am new to the list, and there was no text message that I saw but your subject header got my attention. If your cat is not having any bowel movements and products like Laxatone are not helping, do NOT wait too many days before taking your cat to the veterinarian. He 'may' have Mega-colon and that needs to be seen by a vet soon. I have one cat that has had 2 surgeries for Mega-colon and is on a strict health management program. Hope this helps, since I did not see a full message. Clc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: my 1 1/2 yr old cat is not having bowel movements?need advice(jayden) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:09:09 EST
