Re: [Felvtalk] OT: cat bite

2013-12-14 Thread Christiane Biagi
Listen, I had one cat, the late great Little Boy, who bit me twice over the
years and each time I had to spend the night in the hospital for iv
antibiotics.  Thing is some cats have this bacteria in their mouth
(Pasteurella multocida) and he was one of them.  If that bacteria gets into
your bloodstream, it can quickly lead to sepsis.  He was the only cat I had
who had that bugger and he was sweet as pie but a bite was a bad thing.
Look for a red line going u your arm...if you start seeing it--go to eroom
as you want to stop infection from hitting lymph nodes and causing sepsis.  

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Lance
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: cat bite

Hi everyone,

During play, one of our cats bit me earlier today. I tried to get to an
urgent care clinic, but they decided to stop seeing people at 4:30 pm.
despite listing hours as 9-5. Real nice. ;-) 

Anyway, I'm wondering how worried I should be. A lovely pic of the bite can
be seen here:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s201/sh/fc76bb30-31ff-40ed-80b1-4f499d5461e4/
4adec821f3519913f482848c4c5f730b

It seems much more superficial and scratchy rather than being a deep
puncture wound, and FYI, you're looking at my right arm about two inches
above my elbow.

We have doxycycline in the house, but the last time I was bitten, I took
augmentin. Would prefer to do that, but I'm out of luck for the night,
unless I feel like a high-costing trip to the ER (I'm currently
inusrance-less, as luck would have it).

Has anyone used doxy for cat bites? What symptoms around the bite should I
be looking for that indicate its seriousness? I can get in to the urgent
clinic tomorrow morning at 9, and the bite happened this afternoon at 3:45.
Hopefully that gives me a little time. I know that none of you are MDs
(well, I don't know that for sure), but would appreciate input.

Thanks,

Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Adopting

2013-11-26 Thread Christiane Biagi
Good for you!  You won't regret it!  How old is she?  Best thing you can do
for her is give her decent food, keep her inside safe and sound, and just
watch for those little things that in an felv cat can turn bad pretty
quickly-URI, UTI, teeth and gum problems, etc.  You know already that these
nasty little retroviruses are opportunistic-they lurk quietly until the
kitty needs a good immune system to fight off even a minor infection.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kristi Stringer
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Adopting

 

I just found out that the cat i am adopting has Felv but have decided to
give her a loving home anyway  Working with retrovirises is part of my job
{in humans } so i feel like i could provide her with the love and care she
needs. Any advice asbo begin this journey?

Currently she is symptomatic

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Re: [Felvtalk] Adopting

2013-11-26 Thread Christiane Biagi
Well you're over the riskiest time-kittenhood.  There are folks who use
Interferon prophylactilly-I never did with my Tucson and she's 16 going on
17.  She's always been a very good eater so I know that if she's turning up
her nose at food, something's going on.  When she was younger, she had a
couple of episodes of real low white blood count and my vet gave her a
series of immune regulin shots and it seems to have worked.  She's now got
some crummy teeth (only a few left) and I watch for any sign of trouble.
BTW, I have a mixed hh of pos n non- pos cats.  Just sort of happened that
way.  I had another guy, Romeo, who I brought in as a stray n then found out
he was pos.  He was 4 or 5 when I brought him in, lived for a number of
years but then developed lymphoma -that's a real toughie and felv cats seem
to be more prone to that.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kristi Stringer
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Adopting

 

She is six. And i meant she is not systematic 

On Nov 26, 2013 7:27 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:

Good for you!  You won't regret it!  How old is she?  Best thing you can do
for her is give her decent food, keep her inside safe and sound, and just
watch for those little things that in an felv cat can turn bad pretty
quickly-URI, UTI, teeth and gum problems, etc.  You know already that these
nasty little retroviruses are opportunistic-they lurk quietly until the
kitty needs a good immune system to fight off even a minor infection.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kristi Stringer
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Adopting

 

I just found out that the cat i am adopting has Felv but have decided to
give her a loving home anyway  Working with retrovirises is part of my job
{in humans } so i feel like i could provide her with the love and care she
needs. Any advice asbo begin this journey?

Currently she is symptomatic


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Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day

2013-06-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
I would worry less about the kitties than about you.  Just keep an eye on
that wound.  I've been bitten a number of times but both times I got bit by
my late great Little Boy, I ended up overnight in the hospital for iv
antibiotics.  Cats sometimes have a bacteria in their mouth which can be
very toxic to humans and my Little Boy had those buggers.  If you see a thin
red line starting up your arm, go to dr/hospital immediately.  They put u in
to give u iv antibiotics-oral won't work.  They asked me if cats had rabies
vacc and I said yes and that was that-never asked for proof or anything.  It
would have been more serious as far as Health Dept if it was a stray cat,
not one of my own.  But an inside, owned cat-I doubt they'll even relate.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 11:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day

 

I wouldn't worry too much, Lance. Sounds like you got the major part of the
beating and the two girls are probably laughing at you. Even if fur flew,
Callie has been around for a while, well fed, in good shape. In about 2 to 4
weeks you can test her. If negative, then pack up your worries. If positive,
she may throw it off. I have had 3 underweight, street adults who threw it
off. Make sure that finger doesn't get red and inflamed and make sure the
inflammation does not travel down your hand. Don't be shy about seeing a
doctor but don't tell it's a cat bite, because your doctor may feel
obligated to report the animal bite. If this happens, you will then have
your animal control on your back.  They could actually take away your two
cats for observation. Stupid things like that happen here in Texas.
Sending positive energy from the Universe. And hugs for the two contenders.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


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From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
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Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day


Hi everyone,

I wanted to ask for prayers and warm thoughts for my FeLV+ girl, Ember as
well as my mother's (hopefully) negative cat, Callie. Somehow, Callie got
into Ember's room, not once, but twice. The first time only lasted for a few
minutes, but I discovered a terrible cat fight in progress when I got back
upstairs. To disrupt the chase, I grabbed Callie to remove her from the
room. I got a bloody finger with three puncture marks in the process.

Later, I realized I should really get abx for the bite, so my dad took me to
the doctor. We were gone about an hour. When I got back, I was saddened to
find that I had stupidly managed to not completely close one of the doors to
our rooms, and Callie had again gotten in. I don't know that the cats fought
the second time. I think Callie might have explored the normally off limits
rooms. I found Ember hiding but unshaken behind some clothes, and Callie
didn't act like she was on edge, but I have no idea what happened. 

Needless to say, I'm very concerned about Callie's possible exposure to the
virus. We've had a few run-ns over the last seven years, but nothing like
the fight/chase I broke up today. My hope is that Callie being seven years
old puts her at low risk for infection. She hasn't had any recent vax for
FeLV, but she had the FeLV (including booster) when she was a kitten. She
also seems very healthy. 

There was actually more tough cat stuff today involving a 17 yro diabetic
who had to go for a dental (this ended on a good note), and my usual
concerns about Ember. The radiologist hasn't contacted the surgeon after
almost a week, and Ember probably needs surgical intervention for her
diaphragmatic hernia.

Please think of the two girls.

Lance 
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Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day

2013-06-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
I understand what you're saying but be very very careful w. cat bites.  The
potential for a very tough infection in lymph nodes is if travels up to your
arm is very high (and easily treated).  But if you wait too long, it can be
very very serious.  But that's for cats-dogs don't have that bacteria in
their mouth.  And if you say it's a stray cat that bit you, they may want to
give your rabies treatment.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day

 

 

 Here's a suggestion to everyone who has cats or dogs. If your cat or dog
has a bad hair day and bites/scratches you and you have to go to a doctor or
emergency clinic because you are having a reaction to the saliva, afraid of
infection or things like that, DO NOT TELL THEM THAT YOUR ANIMAL did the
damage. If it's a bite, you can say that your parrot got off his perch and
bit you or that you hammered a rusty nail into your finger, anything but an
animal bite. Here where I live, a 4 year old kid was playing with his
Chihuahua and was probably too rough. The dog nipped him. The parents took
the kid to the doctor to have the wound cleaned. The doctor reported a dog
bite. That evening Animal Control showed up with a warrant to confiscate a
vicious dog. The family pet was dragged away to Animal Control and the
family followed right behind. Animal Control said they would have to put the
dog to death because he was determined to be a vicious dog, having bitten a
child. The family was aghast. They called the Humane Society and the
newspaper in an attempt to save their Chihuahua who had been with them for 8
years. Finally, after several rescue groups and a pro-bono lawyer
intervened, the dog was returned to the family. The bite didn't amount to
anything. But the bureaucratic mess that followed from the doctor reporting
the bite lasted 3 weeks.

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


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Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

2013-05-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Basically, try anything in your refrigerator!  But things I've found that
sometimes worked:
Fancy Feast Classic Chicken
White Rose canned tuna (people tuna)
Yogurt
Cottage Cheese
Gerber Stage 3 baby food-ham or chicken or beef or turkey
Tuna water (from canned people tuna in water)
Liverwurst
Ham or prosciutto
Kentucky Fried Chicken (boneless)
Chicken soup

None are recommended for long term use--but when you're basically just
trying to get something in the cat, go for anything they want...Also,
sometimes, just heating the food (not yogurt or cott cheese) a bit makes it
have more of an aroma.  

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Amanda Payne
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?

Hello everyone!

This is my first time using this forum :)

I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two
months ago.  At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted
plants in addition increasing lethargy.  I took her to the vet where she was
diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV.  We were told we'd have to
assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis.  Thankfully,
she's a fighter and is still with us.  However, her appetite has been cause
for worry.  She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli ham (I know, not
the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she eats).  The last
two days, though, she won't eat.  I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat,
Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail.
I understand that the end may be near but I want to give everything a shot
before I make that call.  

So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no
to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions!

Thank you,
-Amanda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-23 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, 
though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 

 

She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.

 

She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 

 

On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote:





Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

CHERI


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
El
 

 From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
 visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
 cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her 
 treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her 
 sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that 
 she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
  You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
  prayers.
  Bonnie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  Lance
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
  mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
  than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
  night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
  uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
  our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
  
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2013-04-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
Not sure I understand.  He was neg for both FIV n FELV 3 weeks ago but is
positive now?  Do you know what tests were run-possibilities are Elissa
(snap test done in office) and IFA (blood work sent out).  Swollen lymph
nodes could be a lot of things.  particularly if he's running around and
eating and gaining weight!  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sally Dwyer
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

 

Hi Folks,

My kitty Rumi was just diagnosed with Felv and Fiv today.  He had been
treated for a severe anemaia over the past few weeks (transfusions and
antibiotics + pred) and as recently as 3 weeks ago was FIV and Felv negative
on blood samples.

His PCV went from 8 to 26 today - a great recovery.  My daughter an I
noticed some swollen lymph nodes yesterday and when we showed them to the
vets today they said that his prognosis is grave given that we now know he
is Felv positve. They beleive there is probably an underlying fast growing
cancer responsible for the nodes and have said evenif they find it and treat
with chemo he will only have 4 or 5 months at best ( they said take the
weekend to think about it).  So hard to beleive when you see him running
around and purring in your lap and gaining weight.  We are pretty broken up
about it - he is an awesome 2 year old cat that we got from a shelter only a
month ago.  Anyone have experiences that are similar or other thoughts?  

thanks,

Sally

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat

2013-03-20 Thread Christiane Biagi
A couple of suggestions for food.  

.Gerber Stage 2 Baby Food-ham, turkey, beef (has no onion in it)

.Fancy Feast original chicken-most cats think its chocolate cake

.Warm Kentucky Fried Chicken (without bones)-trappers swear by it.

.Don't know where you are but White Rose regular tuna cat food (not
the stew)-its cheap dark meat tuna and the ferals in my old colony loved it.

.ANYTHING else you can get in her-yogurt, tuna water, cold cuts, and
on and on.

 

I know what you mean about treating a feral-don't know if they use a box but
if you can get a urine sample out of that, you could get a lot of info from
that.  Also, think about getting some of her poop for fecal-could be
parasite.  Another thought might be if you have a cooperative vet to simply
try her on some thyroid meds for a bit and see if it helps.  Getting a cat
to take pills is tricky, I know.  I've had some success with small pieces of
pill pockets.  For my old colony, I've used liverwurst-that's another food
they seem to run for.

 

Good for you for trying with these guys.  I know it can't be easy..

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
MaiMaiPG
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat

 

I really appreciate the information about getting her to the vets and would
if it was an option.  I have live traps etc.  Once this crew is trapped,
they are rarely trapped again.  She can't be handled nor can the others.  It
is my hope to trap them one final time and relocate them to my farm.  They
live at my Mom's and she died.  Her house will be sold.  I have examined all
the trap/vet possibilities.  Honest.  Consider that there will be no way of
treating her for diabetes or even thyroid issues over any period of time
unless she is imprisoned at the vets for the rest of her life.  

 

I will check the Neutro Ved for her food.  Sometimes I can get supplements
into her food and other times I can't.  These guys are very wild.  Think of
this in terms of treating a possum or coon that lives near you.  And yes,
she is very loved but she is very wild too.  

On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote:





Could be overactive thyroid. Especially if she's eating normally or more
than normally and is getting thinner by the minute. That could also account
for the fact that she is cold. Is her fur dull looking and dry? If she can
be trapped, she would need a thyroid profile (T-3 and T-4) and a glucose
test for diabetes. She may have the equivalent of human pernicious anemia or
chronic anemia so a test for her hemoglobin level should also be done. These
are things that various cats I have had living with me over the years
developed as they aged.Hope it helps. You could also add NeutroVed to her
food. It's a liquid iron and vitamin compound for cats.

 

 

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neighbors too!

 


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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat



I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide
experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try.

I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet.  She has
lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old.  Recently she has gotten thin
and appears cold.  I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and
rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes.  I can't be sure what she is
eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the
mix. She has two cats who hang out with her.  They have all been
neutered/spayed.  Tommy has had weight/cold issues for at least 8 weeks.
She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like
she was ready to leave this world.  I am trying chcken livers and anything
else I canthink of for iron.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Lance-when my Tucson had real low wbc a number of years ago, my vet gave her
a series of immune-regulin injections.  Whether it was that or something
else, the wbc went back up in a few weeks.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

 

Hi Sally,

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember and I. I'm so sorry to read that all your
FeLV+ cats have gone. I remind myself that the time I've had with Ember has
been wonderful, and that she may have more time. I want to have hope, but
I'm feeling really down right now. I appreciate your prayers. Take care.

 

Lance

 

On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:






Hi Lance,

 

 I have thought of you recently. I remember you kindness when I was dealing
with this awful disease. All infected cats are at the Rainbow's Bridge. I
will keep Ember in my prayers.

 

Sally

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hi everyone,

A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for
FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then.
There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been unusual
for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.

Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when
she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been around
3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular checkup, and
her count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed Clavamox, I assume,
as a prophylactic against infection.

Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're probably
heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to be as
efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously dangerous. I'm
wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any treatments that help
stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me know what you think.

Best wishes to all of you and your cats,

Lance


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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group

2013-02-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sort of depends.  There are 2 standard tests vets use.  First is the Elissa
'snap' test.  Its essentially a test strip and vet pricks the dog to get a
drop of blood and results are shown by color on the strip-test is done right
in the office.  Second is the IFA in which vet draws blood and sends to lab.
It is possible for a kitty to test pos on Elissa and some time later test
neg on the IFA-means cat has likely shed the virus.  So answer would sort of
depend on what test was done and how old the cat is.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Dianne Chance
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group

 



Hello Group,

 

I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I
have been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline
leukemia positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing
results, can results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be
tested to have confirmation without a doubt?  

 

I would appreciate your responses.  

dyan



 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Elisa (snap) test

2013-02-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sorry--a bit of brain fade...meant the cat

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Lorrie
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Elisa (snap) test

On 02-05, Christiane Biagi wrote:
Sort of depends.  There are 2 standard tests vets use.  First is the
Elissa `snap' test.  Its essentially a test strip and vet pricks the
dog to get a drop of blood and results are shown by color on the
strip-test is done right in the office.  Second is the IFA in which vet
draws blood and sends to lab.  It is possible for a kitty to test pos
on Elissa and some time later test neg on the IFA--means cat has likely
shed the virus.  So answer would sort of depend on what test was done
and how old the cat is.

The vet pricks the dog?  Did you mean cat?  





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Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia

2013-01-14 Thread Christiane Biagi
A few things-first, thank you for taking in this little one.  Its too bad
that her adopter declawed her as it means she can't go outside!  On the
FELV-there are 2 standard tests.  There's one the vet does in the office-a
pin prick of blood on a test strip-its called the Elissa or snap test.  Then
there's one done by the vet drawing blood and sending to a lab-its called
the IFA.  If a cat tests pos on the Elissa it should be retested on the IFA
sometime later.  It is possible the cat can throw off the virus so you have
to give it time between the Elissa and IFA.

 

Many folks on this board will tell you about their cats who  have lived
long, healthy lives.  My own Tucson is 13 and doing ok.  I had another who I
brought in from the street after I'd been feeding him for a couple of years.
He died several years later from lymphoma and we guessed he was around 8.
The thing is that the FELV virus won't actually kill them but it makes them
so much more susceptible to infections-URI, UTI, etc.  I tend to bring
Tucson to the vet a bit quicker than I do my other ones if she has the
sniffles or stops eating, etc.  They are also more susceptible to gum
infections, lymphomas, blood disorders, etc.  so you have to keep an eye on
that. 

 

Best thing you can do is give her some decent food, watch for any sign of
problems.  As far as the litter box, tough to know.  Sometimes they don't
like a particular litter.  And the stool, you might want to take a stool
sample to vet for fecal.  I think the Tyleson Tartrate is an antibiotic but
am not familiar w. it.  I'm not sure about having it on hand to give to her
if she gets sick.  There are different antibiotics for different things.
Folks on the board might have more info.

 

How old is Pumpkin?  

 

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strchalb...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia

 

Hello,
cs
I'm hoping someone can help me

We live in the country and have about 8 outside cats.   A friend decided to
take one home, Pumpkin, and had her all fixed up at the vet with shots, spay
and declaw.  She found out she has  feline leukemia.  She kept her for about
a month, but I guess she was making a mess as far as using the litter box.
I told her I didn't want her to go to an over crowded humane society, so I
took her back.  She is now in the house, as she is front declawed, and she
is not to be around the other cats with her cancer.
ons
So... I've had her home since just before Christmas, and she's been fine
other than not eating a whole lot.  Her stool is quiet soft, and I did find
a few hard turds in two different sleeping places that she uses.  Well now
today,  she had a ver messy stool on the wood floor in the hallway!! Really
shocked me as she's been so good using the littler box.  

Is this a sign that she is getting sick, the not using the littler box?  She
has a prescription for Tylosin Tartrate, and she said to give this to
her(powder form), when/if she gets sick???

She does seems to sleep most of the day, but I know cats do do that :)  She
also does purr quite loud!!  Must be a good sign.  She will play with a
string too.  So she's been very happy, but now I had to resort to putting
her back in the basement with her food and litter.  I might end  up sleeping
down there with her again, as I did when she first came in the house.  She
has had the run of the house now for weeks, but I just don't trust her since
her accident.


I've read where infected cats can live quite long, but yet others do not.  I
certainly would not want to put her thru all sorts of treatments... 


Thank you for your time:)))

I appreciate any input for my Pumpkin!

Tricia 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Just resubscribed

2012-12-18 Thread Christiane Biagi
Welcome back, Belinda...

-Original Message-
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Belinda Sauro
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Just resubscribed

 Hi All,
Apparently I wasn't subscribed anymore and didn't realize it.  I am
subscribed again now.

**NEWS**

We now have a DOG, her name is Emma and we adopted her from a local rescue.
She is a chihuahua mix.

How has everyone been??

--
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happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ...

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

2012-11-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a change of food
when they came to your house?  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Martha Walton
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

 

I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The kittens ate
well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned their nose up at
food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they are both throwing up water.
Yesterday one of the kittens had diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.  Both
kittens are playful, drinking water and alert, but I am very worried about
them not eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about the
vomiting.  

The owner says that both kittens have been tested for all diseases.  I
have not let the kittens have contact with my 5 house-cats.  Today one of my
cats had some diarrhea, so I am hoping that the kittens are not getting my
cats sick..

Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at 10:00am.

I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

2012-11-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Anytime you change food, you should mix the old  the new for a few days as
they often get diarrhea.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Martha Walton
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 5:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

 

Thanks Kathryn  Christiane.  
Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool  no blood in the
vomit.

She is feeding them wet food, Friskies/wet and Meow Mix/wet.  I have tried
to get the kittens to eat Before Grain wet food, but they will not eat it.
The kittens will lap up a little water, but nothing excessive.  Problem is,
they walk away and vomit up the water.

Kittens were eating good Wednesday, Thursday  Friday.  I gave them some dry
food on Thursday or Friday night, Natures Variety Instinct.  Maybe their
tummies just didn't like the new food.

I am very worried, the kittens go back to their home tomorrow AM.  The
kittens have had the first round of shots  testing.  I have called their
human parents twice and left two messages.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
wrote:

Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a change of food
when they came to your house?  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Martha Walton
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

 

I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The kittens ate
well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned their nose up at
food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they are both throwing up water.
Yesterday one of the kittens had diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.  Both
kittens are playful, drinking water and alert, but I am very worried about
them not eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about the
vomiting.  

The owner says that both kittens have been tested for all diseases.  I
have not let the kittens have contact with my 5 house-cats.  Today one of my
cats had some diarrhea, so I am hoping that the kittens are not getting my
cats sick..

Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at 10:00am.

I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.


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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS

2012-10-28 Thread Christiane Biagi
Am in Westchester (New Rochelle).  Where are you?

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot
winkler
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS

 

I went to the outdoor cat colony and dumped large amounts of dry food in the
2 protected stations.  I am very worried about the cats with the hurricane.
We constructed small dog-house like houses for them with tee pees around
them from wood pallets and some plastic.  

What's the general consensu?  How have any of your outdoor cat colonies done
in the hurricane situations?  In Hurricane Irene, the group did okay but
this one they are saying is worse.  Do any of you live around this area of
the hurricane approaching?  

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply

2012-10-28 Thread Christiane Biagi
I live right near the Long Island sound but higher so I'm not in a flood
area.  Haven't had a colony for a few years but I found those little ferals
are remarkably resilient.  I never could put up the kind of shelter you and
your husband did-wow!  It sounds like they have a lot of protection.  I've
seen ferals come thru 2' of snow, zero degree temps, nor'easters-so with the
extra protection you gave them, they have a better than average chance.
Good for you and your husband to do this for them..

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot
winkler
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply

 

I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland  So, you are in New York?  Or is that near Long
Island? 

 Do you have any outdoor colonies?  My hub over the last year has built
small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the
rooves.  They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other.  Then
covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his staple gun.  There are
piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the houses are within
those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just filled tonight.   I
just still am very worried.  Hoping they will be okay.  What experiences
have you had with storms and the cats?

 

  _  

From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS

 

Am in Westchester (New Rochelle).  Where are you?

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot
winkler
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS

 

I went to the outdoor cat colony and dumped large amounts of dry food in the
2 protected stations.  I am very worried about the cats with the hurricane.
We constructed small dog-house like houses for them with tee pees around
them from wood pallets and some plastic.  

What's the general consensu?  How have any of your outdoor cat colonies done
in the hurricane situations?  In Hurricane Irene, the group did okay but
this one they are saying is worse.  Do any of you live around this area of
the hurricane approaching?  

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice

2012-10-19 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sounds like ur vet is trying to get her to get rid of any infection.  In
terms of eating, I think ur vet is right on-give her anything she'll eat.
Some things I've used are Gerber stage2 ham, or turkey or beef (has no
garlic or onion-just plain); tuna water (from can); yogurt is good if
she'll take it-helps with nausea/diarrhea from antibiotics.  All my cats
seem to devour Fancy Feast (chicken classic)-its like catnip! Lol
Basically, I go thru refrig  try everything-cold cuts, cheese, cottage
cheese-not necessarily the best diet long term but I figure something is
always better than nothing.  Sometimes, heating the food in micro just to
get it warm (and smelly) helps.  There's also the food trappers use to lure
ferals-warm Kentucky Fried Chicken (little warm pieces without bones).  Its
not easy  very frustrating so hang in there..  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice

 

Dee, I'm sorry your cat is having problems.  Cerenia is typically Rx'd as an
anti-emetic (vomiting).  Some vets also Rx it for nausea even though there
are better drugs to use for nausea.  Each kitty is unique and Cerenia does
seem to help fight nausea in some cats.  Most in the FAF yahoo group give it
for 4 days then take a day off.  Not sure what you vet recommended.  The FAF
list members have found Cerenia to be a very effective and safe anti-emetic.

 

Here is a link to a good vet article on meds used to control vomiting.  The
info on Cerenia is about 1/2 way down under the heading 'A new antiemetic
drug for dogs'.

http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=6
76860

 

Hope this helps

Sharyl

 

From: Dawn Morrison dlmgreen1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice


My 7yr old has up till this point shown no signs of the virus.

Tuesday she was acting very odd and not eating. I took her to the vet, who
ran bloodwork.

Her lympocytes were incredibly high, wbc was high (can't remember the
numbers), she had a 104 temp. She got injections of b12, steroid, antibiotic
and I was sent home with antibiotic and pain meds if needed and an appetite
stimulant. Wed she wouldn't eat again so I was syringe feeding her. I have
been giving her the anitbio and app stimulant. Today she started to eat on
her own, although I will still syringe to make sure she's getting enough
nutrients.  She also has IBD but the vet said to give her whatever she'll
eat at this point to at least get her wanting to eat again. We sent the
bloodwork out to a lab to assure the in house results were correct, they
were. 

My vet wants to start her on cerenia, keep her on the anitbio and the app
stimulant. We're basically going to take it day by day at this point. Since
she is now shedding the virus she is staying in her bedroom (which has a
screen door on it) but is a little stressed that she can't come out and
visit when we are home. I've been going in and visiting as much as possible
but it's hard when I'm gone for most of the day. We have another kitty who
we have to get tested in 2 months to see if she was exposed.

If anyone has suggestions or opinions I would appreciate it. Also, has
anyone used cerenia and is there anything I should know about it?

Has anyone else gone through similiar experiences and can offer any advice?

 

Thanks in advance and sorry this is so long.

Dee

 

 

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[Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Christiane Biagi
The caveat to the no kill (as defined in the Asilomar Accords) is that all
it means is they will not kill adoptable animals.  Unfortunately, its up to
the individual shelter/rescue to define what they consider adoptable.  All
too often, facilities that advertise themselves as no kill really mean
that they will kill all ill, senior, problem behavior, etc. animals but
never kill a healthy easily adoptable animals.  These kinds of facilities
never ever publish their euthanasia matrix which is where they define
their policy on who they will kill.  True no kills (as we think it means 
as defined by Nathan Winograd) are tough to find.  I volunteer for one such
shelter in New Orleans (ARNO)  the handful of animals they've put down have
been terminally ill animals who were either comatose or in intractable pain.
They never put down for fiv or felv!  

 

The shelter you cited clearly is a kill shelter  why they wouldn't have
alerted you to the cat's test results  given you some time demonstrates an
attitude that is unfortunately all too common.  I'm so sorry this happened
to you but please know that River had love from you-something she likely
hadn't had in a very long time.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:15 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
Well my Tucson turned 14 this year.  I lost my Romeo at age 9+ to lymphoma—it 
was also very fast…he was sick for a couple of weeks.  I know I sound like a 
broken record but FELV virus has been around long before anybody even knew 
about it.  Most cats don’t get tested—they certainly didn’t years ago.  If it 
were that lethal, there wouldn’t be any cats left.  I think there are probably 
a lot more cats out there not diagnosed living the good life.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

 

That is one reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with FELV,because it hits 
all at once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live a long time.The lady 
that had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats without FELV don't live 
that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next day not feeling 
well,next day or two gone. But, they died home when they were ready.Cathy Fron 
the BRonx N Y



 

From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Yeah, I wondered if there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice 
them.  It was like one night she started breathing a little funny and the next 
day it became worse so I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the 
trip made things a lot worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to 
the back to see what was going on.  By the time they did the x-ray and got back 
to me she was getting weak.  I went to the back where she was at to see her and 
talk with the vet and she died while we were talking.  I had no prep time at 
all and it was awful.  Here one day and gone the next.  Her name was Two Face.  
She was a torti with some white on her and half her face was orange and the 
other half black.  What a sweetheart.  Wish I could have had her for a lot 
longer.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:06:48 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
 CC: molvey...@hotmail.com
 
 That is the way it was with Nitnoy. We never really had the time to decide on 
 treatment before she was gone. I keep thinking there is something I missed 
 and should have seen.
 
 
  molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were lucky because 9 1/2 
 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had it as a kitten. 
 Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. Many live less 
 than a year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that was it. I have 
 heard of some that lived about that long but not too often if they got it as 
 a kitten from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived until it was 
 18. I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's really odd. I 
 had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. Like Prancer 
 she was fine then one day her breathing became labored. Before the vet and I 
 could even discuss what to do she died. At the time I did not know she had 
 FeLV because she tested negative as a kitten. They didn't see the tumor on 
 X-ray because of all the fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid 
 was coming from. Sure enough the vet found this large tumor and it had 
 actually punctured her heart and the fluid in her chest was all blood. Then 
 the vet got curious and did a combo test and found the FeLV. My guess is that 
 most likely the tumor would have eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too so 
 you probably did the best thing for Prancer. I didn't know they could treat 
 those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case it was too late when we found it but 
 I'm glad to know that in case something comes up in the future. Maureen Sent 
 from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Terri Brown 
  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm I used 
 interferon with Salome'. I started her on it when she was about 3 years old, 
 and I gave it to her as often as I could get a hold of it. Salome' lived to 
 be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver failure. Hope that helps! T 
 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
 Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
 =^..^= - Original Message - From: Lisa Conner To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: 
 [Felvtalk] Interferon Hi All, I think everyone was so hung up with this 
 politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions on 

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Christiane Biagi
I’m not so sure how good the chances are.  My Romeo died because of this
type of lymphoma.  For him, (semi-feral), treatment would have been a
nightmare but oncologist was not that optimistic about his chances….

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Hi Just as FYI - what your kitty, Prancer had was mediastinal lymphoma - and
it is actually one of the most tretable cancers of all - it's common among
Felk positive kitties - steroid of will almost immediately get rid of fluid
in chest cavity - and kitties with mediastinal lymphoma has a very good
chance of recovery with chemo therapy even with Felk kitties - if you join
lymphoma support group, they can tell you all about sucess stories.
 
There is feline omega itnerferon which you can import AbbyVet in England
which is probably the best choice as alpha (human) interferon, cats will
eventually develop antibody to the interferon -
Have you considered using LTCI?
 
Hideyo
 

  _  

CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: ava...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:55:47 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Thank you for trying to bring everyone back on topic. I'm very new to this
forum but would love to hear from anyone who can talk more about interferon.

 

Maryam

 

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On Oct 12, 2012, at 13:48, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote:

 

 

Hi All,

 

I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.

 

 Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very
sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed
him to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn’t think he
was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+
and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½
cups of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.
In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it
was his heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at
the base of his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had,
however, he said it might be a day or week,  depending on how much fluid
built up in his lung area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could
not have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive
heart failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs).  

 

So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the
years, since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like
Prancer, great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.  

 

Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the
typical avg span life for Felv+ cats?  

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Need advice for our cat Oliver

2012-10-10 Thread Christiane Biagi
Re: acne---if you haven't done, try changing to metal food/water dishes.
Sometimes ceramic or plastic hold bacteria that get on the cat's face 
cause acne.  Metal can also be cleaned more thoroughly...

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
longhornf...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need advice for our cat Oliver

Fantastic news! I'm so happy for you  Oliver. I can relate to the kitty
acne. I had a big orange  white boy who had it but it did not last too
long. I took the same steps that Lee described.

Congrats! Happy to hear some good news :) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 23:08:56
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Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

2012-10-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
Most of the time, snopes puts links to their sources.  I ALWAYS go to those to 
look for myself.  Haven't found Snopes to be wrong but then I never say 
never...lol

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

Hi ~  just my opinion,

I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com?  Who is checking on 
them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts.  I went on their 
site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know 
anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers.

The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything 
said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself.  IF I care 
enough, that is what I do.  I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago..

IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information 
below to see if it is true ~ your choice.  Why would this person 
not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com?   My point is why should 
anyone believe Snopes.com.  Who are they  really.and. the truth has to 
be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line.

Just my two cents~

**Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering)





SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ



I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS.


I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID 
IT WAS FALSE.

Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any 
anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes.
I thought that was odd. Check this out.

Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan.

We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!

Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at 
some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to 
be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of 
Obama!

In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected 
on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new 
Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the 
email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, 
typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied!

Everyone of those dockets are there.

So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:

   The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as 
claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

   I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and 
immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really 
shocking.

Thank You! I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I 
doubt it.

That being said, I’ll bet you didn't know this:

Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his 
citizenship.

Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and 
on.
Once again the US Senate sold us out!

Now we know why Obama nominated Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court.

Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the 
Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.

He owed her big time.

All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

The American people mean nothing any longer.

It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect 
someone who really has no true right to even be there.

Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:

You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?

Elena Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!

Check out these examples:


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm


If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.


However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. 
Constitution;


by all means, PASS it ON!

There truly is tyranny afoot.

 Valerie Barnes
 Office Manager/Bookkeeper
 G.W. Bulluck Elementary School


(252)985.3456

  (252)442.2370 fax





Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
This week, my sweetest, mushiest cat bit me- and I ended up in er a couple
of times  had an overnight in the hospital to be pumped full of iv
antibiotics.  I have ins but let say someone had the same thing happen
without insurance.  They would have been admitted (considered life
threatening)  then I would have had to pay for part of it out of my taxes
for Medicaid. Wouldn't it be better if we had a system where everybody could
get affordable health insurance--everybody I know who doesn't have insurance
doesn't have it cause they can't find a low cost plan (I'm in NY).  

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Diane Rosenfeldt
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

I have health insurance through the state-run high risk pool . It's
relatively expensive and there is a lot it doesn't pay for -- I am currently
paying off $295 for a regular doctor's visit and labs because I have a
pre-existing condition so no visit is EVER just an annual checkup by their
definition (which would have been free). That's in addition to $326 a month
with a $5500 deductible, which is the low income premium. Its major
advantage is on the drug co-pay, and they get you a *little* off your doctor
bills. I have a temp job, 5 paid days off a year, no bennies. I would have
gone under long ago if my housemate weren't extraordinarily generous (and
received a decent inheritance a few years back). I have a friend who has a
number of health issues, including panic disorder, for which she was taking
a number of meds, with meds to counteract the side effects of those meds,
you know how that goes. She had a bad patch, lost her full-time job and
benefits, and was also using this shared-risk insurance. It was increasingly
difficult coming up with the monthly premiums. Several years ago she married
and moved to England, and gets every prescription for under $10 (our money)
and now is making inroads into her panic with a psychologist. She is miles
better off there than she was here. 

Y'all may not all be fans of Michael Moore, but his film Sicko was an
eye-opener. He goes around Europe and finds out that the drugs are cheap,
the doctors aren't greedy, paid sick days and vacations are plentiful and
*mandated* -- much more compassionate than here, where those of us without
paid sick days either get into financial trouble or suck it up and work
sick. He also took a bunch of sick people, many of them first-responders on
9/11, by boat to Gitmo, since the medical care there is supposed to be
great, to demand equal treatment for US citizens as prisoners of war get.
They couldn't land on Gitmo and diverted to Cuba, where each and every
person was evaluated and prescribed meds which were actually better than
they were getting in the States, and those meds cost a fraction of the
price. One woman was going bankrupt at home to pay for her inhaler for her
9/11 lung damage, I think in the states she was charged something like $120,
and in Cuba that inhaler cost something like $5. The thing about health care
is that if the costs can be brought under control, a LOT of our country's
economic and social problems get solved, and the federal government is the
only entity with enough power to do that. The individual states aren't up to
it. 

Diane R.

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Natalie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
clean her place.  It costs $200/month.  Yes, they paid into it all their
lives, but she'll never go bankrupt or be subjected to a horrible place when
time comes to move to a nursing home.  Father-in-law had a sunny private
room, great care for $10/day!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

On 10-04, GRAS wrote:
Obama ideally wanted single-payer.

 Yes, and it is shameful that America, supposedly the greatest county in the
world, lets it's people go without medical help.
Every other first world country has single payer.

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Re: [Felvtalk] SusieQ

2012-10-06 Thread Christiane Biagi
This is what I love about this group.  the sharing of all kinds of info.
Its info to keep  and check out if the situation ever comes up.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of KG
BarnCats
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] SusieQ

 

If chemotherapy is an option, you could try one dose on the
Wisconsin-Madison protocol. 

my diabetic Danny was dx with lymphoma in his liver, intestines and liver -
very fast moving.  he was given very poor prognosis, maybe 10% of making a
couple months, and could easily die from the chemo since he was so
debilitated from the time it took to get a diagnosis.  honestly I only tried
because it was my sons cat and he begged for one more chance for Danny to
fight (he had beaten several life threatening illnesses before).  Well don't
you know that chemo stomped the crap out of that cancer and literally the
day after the chemo, Danny was like a new cat and came home and ate like
crazy... this was the day I thought I would be letting him go.  I was
actually furious with the ER vet because I called and was told he could come
home and I thought they didn't even know which horribly sick cat was mine.
That was 5.5 years who and Danny is still cancer free.  (He did complete the
26 week protocol)

The point is, sometimes you get lucky.  One dose of chemo will let you know
if chemo is going to work, statistically.  Those that respond well to the
first dose tend to do very well; those that don't respond, don't do well.
So you could stop after the first chemo if it didn't help. 

Another thing to try either way is agaricus blazei from Atlasworldusa.com.
this is given to all cancer patients by Dr Alice villalobos who is one of
the nations top feline cancer specialists (Google villalobos
immunonutrition).  It is low cost and Danny's weekly bloodwork proved
without a doubt that it greatly increased his white blood cell count during
chemo.  

By the way do not let the liver damage overly scare you.  The liver can heal
itself, regenerate.  Denamarin works great.  Danny's went from very damaged
per bloodwork to normal in a month.

Best wishes whatever you decide.

Kg


 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again

 REALLY?  Y'all think so?  I don't think anyone is being mean and hateful,
but then again, I tend to see the positive side of most things :)
  
 Anywho, I'll ask again DOES anyone have any advice on things I can do to
make SuzieQ more comfortable in her last days.  She is 2-3 years old, was
diagnosed with a rapidly advancing cancer a couple of weeks ago, doctor said
she was exposed to FeLuk as a kitten even though she was able to shed the
virus but there is nothing we can do because the cancer has already
compromised her liver, etc.  Anyone have any pearls of wisdom to
share
  




   

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Re: [Felvtalk] President

2012-10-06 Thread Christiane Biagi
And for any kind of info, I always try to go to the original links to read
the stuff for myself.  

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Natalie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
Importance: High

Not really, you can always find out what's true or not: All you have to do
is check on either www.snopes.com (on any floating around rumors, even silly
ones), or www.factcheck.org - political, lots already to choose from, and if
you don't see what you need, write in the topic on top right, and search.
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President

Problem is that there are so many rumors floating around in print and cyber
space that it makes it hard to discren the truth.


 Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: 
 We probably should not. But it is in fact true, although it got taken 
 off the table fairly early when the Dems realized it would never fly 
 in that political atmosphere. So what we have is a slight improvement 
 on the Republican health care plan.
 
  
 
 Diane R.
 
  
 
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
 Of Terri Brown
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:23 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 
  
 
 This is why I don't think we should be discussing this on this list.
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Lorrie mailto:felineres...@frontier.com
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:59 AM
 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 
  
 
 It is true.  
 
 On 10-04, Terri Brown wrote:
 I don't know where you heard that Lorrie, but it's not true.
  
 Terri
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2012-10-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
This group got me thru.that blind panic when my tucson was diagnosed w felv. 
And I know irs helped sooo many people!

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com wrote:

My concern was that someone came for help and was concerned because of what
was being said. I don't know that I would call it going downhill-it is
difficult finding help when dealing with this virus and it is disheartening
when someone comes and can't get help. I remember being in their place and
reading about cobra venom, can you imagine how desperate one is to think
that route,-it is hard to find proper treatments or how to find the right
vet. This site gave me hope, told me to stand up to my vet who said put the
cat down, and then gave me what they used or knew so I could take it to my
vet. In the end there is another vet in this world that believes that FeLV+
cats can be treated and do not need to be put down. I send people because
this is the greatest group I know with a wealth of knowledge and wisdom to
share. They felt this wasn't a place of help. I know that there are so many
here that could write the best how-to book on treatments. We need that
knowledge to help those that are told-you need to put that at down like I
was told, because there are treatments. 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Natalie
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

 

I joined this list a few years ago when I got two adult FeLV cats, and I
have absolutely no complaints - how can anyone think that this group has
gone downhill with so many knowledgeable, wonderful and caring contributors
just because we go off-topic once in a while?  It usually happens when no
one has any dire FeLV emergencies, and then there are times when it's
nothing but FeLV issues.  I belong to several groups, and this often happens
in a lull.

Natalie

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kelley S
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

 

I have to agree - this list used to be such a positive influence in my life
- I joined years ago when I had a kitten test false pos - and I stayed
because the people were so wonderful.  It has gone way, way downhill.  

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com
wrote:

I have been with this list since my kitten developed Feline Leukemia in
2006. I have seen it go way off topic and people that have been invaluable
leave. I realize I don't post often, but as I am with many animal groups I
do send people that are struggling. It was most disheartening to know that
they were not able to get help, but did learn that people hated their
beliefs. They just needed guidance because they are dealing with this for
the first time. This has always been a place to hear the newest treatments
and for those given grim news the knowledge that there is always hope.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

 

Don't fret Elizabeth.  Occasionally we get a little off topic but we soon
get back on the road. Just like you would take a journey and have to pull
over to the shoulder of the road to allow your car to cool down we do the
same here.  We all have different opinions and sometimes we just like to
cool down by having a chat with people we feel safe with - people who
rescue cats and who understand the ethical decisions we make in not killing
those cats who test FeLv+.  It feels to me like sitting down to dinner with
a church group.  We all agree on the religion but we may all approach it in
a different way and see it in a different way and even get way off topic and
discuss hair styles and shoe styles.

If you have a question about feline leukemia, please ask it and we will
discontinue our chat about everything under the sun and moon and help you
with your issue.  Blessings.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 

  _  

From: Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:38 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

 

This list has always been so very helpful-now it is full of judgmental
people that do nothing but bash those with different views. What is
happening to this list? If people hunt they are evil. Like it or not many
people all over the world hunt-they are all condemned because there are
those that hate it. Then the list is now into politics. What happened to
helping deliver information about feline leukemia? People that look in to
get help see this and leave. It is heartbreaking that this is deteriorating
away from what brought all to the list in the first place

Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again

2012-10-05 Thread Christiane Biagi
You can try gerber stage2 baby food...the meat kind (ham, beef, turkey, etc). 
Not all thw nutrition a cat needs but it gets them something. 

Christiane Biagi
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Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


Thanks for the info and advice, I just called the vet to ask about anti-nausea 
meds
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:30:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again





Yeah, at the end even my dog didn't want to eat.  And oh boy don't I know how 
picky cats are compared to dogs!!!  Maybe she'd like sardines.  My cats like 
canned chicken too.  Of course chicken flavored baby food is always a hit.  
You've got to keep her eating something.  If she's still happy with Fancy 
Feast that's great.  Also, sometimes with cancer even if they're eating good 
they'll loose weight.  Forgot what it's called but the cancer keeps the body 
from absorbing the nutrients or it destroys the nutrients or something like 
that so basically a person with cancer can become malnourished even though 
they're eating good.
 
They have a couple things for nausea and she's definitely not going to eat if 
she's nauseous.  One drug is Cerenia and that's what my vet gave me but 
another good one is something called Ondansetron (generic name).  I heard 
about that through the feline kidney disease group.  Most of the members like 
the Ondansetron much better than Cerenia.  My vet didn't have it and he 
thought Cerenia was better but I told him I wanted a prescription for the 
other because the folks on the list recommended it.  You can order the 
Ondansetron from Thriving Pets website.  You just fax them your prescription.  
Local pharmacies might have it too.  I think that's where I ended up getting 
it.  My cat had renal lymphoma, not regular old kidney failure which would 
have been better, and she went downhill so fast I never got a chance to see if 
the Ondansetron was better than Cerenia. 
 
Any little bit of extra time you can give her is great, even though you might 
not think it's enough.  Plus if she's feeling bad she probably only wants a 
certain amount of interaction so I'm sure the extra time you give her is 
enough to keep her happy.


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 




From: taylore...@msn.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:46:37 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again




She does get nauseous a lot and we have her on some strong pain meds.  She is 
losing so much weight but I give her Fancy Feast and love on her.  Unlike 
dogs, cats are such picky eaters to begin with :(  I wish she would eat 
burgers and fries.
 
The vet who diagnosed her has been our vet for a long time and I absolutely 
trust her.  I knew something was wrong with SuzieQ because she just wasn't 
acting like herself and she was a bit thinner and then Dr. M found a big mass 
in her abdomen, did surgery and took a biopsy, it came back cancer :(
 
I try to give her lots of attention but unfortunately Frank goes out of town 
so much and I work full-time so when I get home I have to clean up and take 
care of everyone else and then I try to spend extra time alone with her :(
 




From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:40:20 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again




Give SusieQ lots of pain meds and ice cream.  Oh wait, that's my prescription.
 
I guess all you can do is keep her happy and feeling good as long as possible. 
 You just address each problem as it comes up.  Anything specific going on 
right now?  I know when the liver starts going it makes them nauseated.  
There's some meds that can help with that if she's feeling good otherwise.  Do 
you really trust this vet?  You could always get a second opinion if there's 
any doubt in your mind that he might have misdiagnosed her.  Hard to tell you 
what to do without knowing if there is something specific bothering her right 
now.  Heard accupuncture helps with pain and different things but it depends 
on whether she's having pain right now.
 
If there really is nothing left to do just give her anything she wants even if 
you normally wouldn't give it to them.  When my dog had cancer we went to 
Burger King and Dairy Queen a lot.  I cooked anything I could think of that he 
might really like.  We had salmon fillets, talapia, etc.  Anything he wanted 
or anything I thought he might want he got.  But most especially I held him 
and loved on him.  Same with the cats.  They got lots of extra attention.
 
 
  I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Christiane Biagi
Does your local shelter have any TNR programs or maybe can connect you with
other feeders?

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

 

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru
- I didn't see any replies.

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.

I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a
facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the
newspaper.  I also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my
other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I
am thinking this cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me
out with it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.
Thanks

 

  _  

From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it
for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we
lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from
the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein
content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded
that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous
fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 

 

 http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

 

  _  

From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell
me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FeLV+ Kitten

2012-08-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
Didn't find out my Tucson was FELV+ until several years after after I
brought her in (as a kitten) with my other cats.  She had tested neg on
ELissa.  So when I discovered she was pos, there was no choice for me about
keeping them integrated.  I had the others vaccinated.  I subsequently
brought in an outside feral (aka dumped) that I'd been feeding for a
couple of years  he turned out to be pos.  All of them lived together 
none of the neg ever got felv.  My Romeo passed away last year from
lymphoma-he was 8 or 9 at least  my Tucson is lying on my bed right now
living the good life of a 14+ years spoiled  pampered cat.

 

I did some research  decided on grain free foods.  I found they put on a
whole lot of weight w. dry only so I feed them all Wellness canned w. a bit
of Wellness weight mgmt. dry as their late night snack.  I have one who is
diabetic  that diet has been good for her as well.  

 

But I know that pos kittens are the most vulnerable-their immune system
can't handle the opportunistic infections.  

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Forgotten Felines
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sick FeLV+ Kitten

 

One of the 3 kittens I recently rescued tested positive for FeLV on the snap
test. Although we're going to run the advanced test in about a month, Kaya
gets sick very easily and loses several ounces when she does. Kaya is almost
5 months old now, 3 lbs 2 oz, and we've had her for nearly 2 months. At the
time, we were told the kittens were related and tested a different one. They
all have herpesvirus, which after being passed around we chose to isolate
them separately. When Kaya became deathly sick the second time, our vet
wanted to test her. Realizing none were related, we also retested the other
two who came back negative. This is my first experience with FeLV and I have
so many questions that seem to get conflicting answers. 

First, how do I care for a FeLV+ kitten/cat? She's recovering quickly with a
mix of Natural Balance kibble and high cal/high stink (A/D prescription) wet
food, with added cat-appropriate vitamin C and Viralys (lysine) and
Nutri-Cal, but is there anything else I should be giving her while she's
sick? Or when she's healthy again? 

Will she need to be on steroids or other medications for the rest of her
life, or can this be managed holistically? 

Once the other kittens are healthy enough for vaccines, could I start them
on the FeLV vac and let them have supervised visits? They were together for
2-3 months pre-testing and never got it, and are therefore missing each
other quite a bit! And if all the cats and kittens in the house are UTD,
does Kaya really need to be quarantined until she finds her forever home? (3
adults and 4 kittens, including her.)

Thanks,
Jill

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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
Coccidia's a parasite==real to kill.  But would likely involve diahrea as
well.  My Romeo would sometimes get dark blood on outside of feces--or in
box--vet thought he likely was straining to defecate, hence the blood.
Didn't happen often but more than once.  IDDEX is the name of the company
that manufactures the stick used for the Elissa--the cat had the Elissa
test.  The IFA is a blood sample sent to lab.  Wouldn't hurt to get an IFA
done since its been so long since the Elissa.  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Tickles had what is called the IDEXX? test done on him. Does that sound
familiar to you, GRAS?

@LINDA, I have heard of coccidia, but what exactly is it? Can it be cured
with meds? Our vet can't seem to figure out the source of the blood and
feels he may rupture some small capillaries when he is passing stool. He
does not cry out when he goes or appears to be in any sort of discomfort.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: GRAS
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Sorry, I meant which FeLV test was done on him?



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
longhornf...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

My FeLV kitty had blood in his stools but he also had coccidia.

Lynda
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:11:54
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Which test did he have?




-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Does it make a difference to how you love him?
On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:59 PM, McKenna's wrote:

 We have a bot, belonged to the ahole neighbors who did not take care 
 of him. We have known him since he was about 4-5 months old. Very long 
 story short, we have him. Took him to the vet to get a check up, shots 
 and neutered with the intention of making him a part of our family, 
 along with 3 other cats. Found out he was Feluk+. After balling and 
 researching this crap disease, we decided we loved him too much to let 
 him go anywhere but here. He was approximately 1 year and 8 months old 
 when he tested positive on 11/29/11. He is now almost 2 and a half. I 
 was wondering if anyone could tell me if it would be beneficial to 
 have him re-tested. Is there any chance he may have grown out of it 
 since he was younger when he got it? He eats well and plays well.
 Sometimes, his stool contains a small amount of blood in it. We have 
 had him tested for everything in an effort to find out why this is.
 The vet stated she does not believe the blood has anything to do with 
 his FeLuk. He is currently on ID.
 So, does anyone think getting him tested again is a good idea?

 Melissa L. McKenna


 -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:46 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

 Glad you left that vet.  even if the cat were still positive, at that 
 age she culd live a long and healthy life.  Annie was 4 when she 
 tested positive.  She is now 8 going on 9 and the healiest, happiest 
 cat I ever saw.

  Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I recused a cat who was approx. 3 years old. She tested positive the 
 first time for FELV but three months later she tested negative on the 
 ELISA and the IFA.  The first time she tested positive the vet hinted 
 that I should euthanize her! I am so glad I did not listen to him.
 BTW, he is no longer my vet.
 Jannes


 
 From: Liz Lee Morris liz...@sccoast.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens


 Hi, I have a kitten who tested Felv positive at 5 weeks old on both 
 the IFA and Elisa test. Both were done on the same day. He is so 
 precious to me and I am so sad. The vet basically said he has no 
 chance. I have been giving him lysine daily and lots of love. He is 
 now 3 months old and is happy and appears healthy. Is it possible that 
 he might be negative now?

 From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 ] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:55 AM
 To: 

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
Does his stool always have a bit of blood or is it just once in a while?  If
only once in a while, maybe another food might work better for him...  but
that's my own bias about the prescription food.  I had much better result w.
a grain free food with veggies in it  found their stools were just more
regular...  I have used some prescription food when someone is real
sick--i.e., my dog had running diahrea that we couldn't figure out  the
prescription food for a week with meds got him back on track.  But that's
just my own experience...  not scientific-lol

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Ok, thank you, Christine. I will get the IFA done then. Tickles does not
have any diarrhea with the blood and the blood isn't always there. The only
other thing about his stool is that it is particularly odorous! LOL I'm
hoping these next set of tests shows him to be negative. Thanks again for
your help.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Coccidia's a parasite==real to kill.  But would likely involve diahrea as
well.  My Romeo would sometimes get dark blood on outside of feces--or in
box--vet thought he likely was straining to defecate, hence the blood.
Didn't happen often but more than once.  IDDEX is the name of the company
that manufactures the stick used for the Elissa--the cat had the Elissa
test.  The IFA is a blood sample sent to lab.  Wouldn't hurt to get an IFA
done since its been so long since the Elissa.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Tickles had what is called the IDEXX? test done on him. Does that sound
familiar to you, GRAS?

@LINDA, I have heard of coccidia, but what exactly is it? Can it be cured
with meds? Our vet can't seem to figure out the source of the blood and
feels he may rupture some small capillaries when he is passing stool. He
does not cry out when he goes or appears to be in any sort of discomfort.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: GRAS
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Sorry, I meant which FeLV test was done on him?



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
longhornf...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

My FeLV kitty had blood in his stools but he also had coccidia.

Lynda
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-Original Message-
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:11:54
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Which test did he have?




-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Does it make a difference to how you love him?
On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:59 PM, McKenna's wrote:

 We have a bot, belonged to the ahole neighbors who did not take care 
 of him. We have known him since he was about 4-5 months old. Very long 
 story short, we have him. Took him to the vet to get a check up, shots 
 and neutered with the intention of making him a part of our family, 
 along with 3 other cats. Found out he was Feluk+. After balling and 
 researching this crap disease, we decided we loved him too much to let 
 him go anywhere but here. He was approximately 1 year and 8 months old 
 when he tested positive on 11/29/11. He is now almost 2 and a half. I 
 was wondering if anyone could tell me if it would be beneficial to 
 have him re-tested. Is there any chance he may have grown out of it 
 since he was younger when he got it? He eats well and plays well.
 Sometimes, his stool contains a small amount of blood in it. We have 
 had him tested for everything in an effort to find out why this is.
 The vet stated she does not believe the blood has anything to do with 
 his FeLuk. He is currently on ID.
 So, does anyone think getting him tested again is a good idea?

 Melissa L. McKenna


 -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:46 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

 Glad you left that vet.  even if the cat

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
I use the regular Wellness canned food--its grain free.  I supplement w. a
little of the dry Wellness weight mgmt. at night.  One question--has the vet
done blood work on him?  If he's bleeding that much, his hemoglobin count
would be real low  And good for you for hanging in w. Tickles--he's a
lucky kitty

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

More often than not, there is a bit of blood in it. Sometimes, there is not.

I have tried several different foods. Still blood in stool. What brand name
of grain free food do you use please? I would be willing to try it.

-Original Message-
From: Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Does his stool always have a bit of blood or is it just once in a while?  If
only once in a while, maybe another food might work better for him...  but
that's my own bias about the prescription food.  I had much better result w.
a grain free food with veggies in it  found their stools were just more
regular...  I have used some prescription food when someone is real
sick--i.e., my dog had running diahrea that we couldn't figure out  the
prescription food for a week with meds got him back on track.  But that's
just my own experience...  not scientific-lol

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Ok, thank you, Christine. I will get the IFA done then. Tickles does not
have any diarrhea with the blood and the blood isn't always there. The only
other thing about his stool is that it is particularly odorous! LOL I'm
hoping these next set of tests shows him to be negative. Thanks again for
your help.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Coccidia's a parasite==real to kill.  But would likely involve diahrea as
well.  My Romeo would sometimes get dark blood on outside of feces--or in
box--vet thought he likely was straining to defecate, hence the blood.
Didn't happen often but more than once.  IDDEX is the name of the company
that manufactures the stick used for the Elissa--the cat had the Elissa
test.  The IFA is a blood sample sent to lab.  Wouldn't hurt to get an IFA
done since its been so long since the Elissa.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Tickles had what is called the IDEXX? test done on him. Does that sound
familiar to you, GRAS?

@LINDA, I have heard of coccidia, but what exactly is it? Can it be cured
with meds? Our vet can't seem to figure out the source of the blood and
feels he may rupture some small capillaries when he is passing stool. He
does not cry out when he goes or appears to be in any sort of discomfort.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: GRAS
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Sorry, I meant which FeLV test was done on him?



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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
longhornf...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

My FeLV kitty had blood in his stools but he also had coccidia.

Lynda
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:11:54
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Which test did he have?




-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

Does it make a difference to how you love him?
On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:59 PM, McKenna's wrote:

 We have a bot, belonged to the ahole neighbors who did not take care 
 of him. We have known him since he was about 4-5 months old. Very long 
 story short, we have him. Took him to the vet to get a check up, shots 
 and neutered with the intention of making him a part of our family, 
 along with 3 other cats. Found out he was Feluk+. After balling

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

2012-08-13 Thread Christiane Biagi
Came thru ok

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

Came through fine
Sharyl
 


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:56 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet
  
Hey all,

Just testing the list since it's been so quiet. Hope this 
goes through ok. Best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone
http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL)


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Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local
rescues/shelters.  Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide
transportation to various rescues  shelters who then have responsibility
for the animals.  

 

As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a shelter
would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it.
http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally
advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it.  In NY,
my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the quick kill bill which
would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal
they deem to be under psychological pain

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

 

PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do?

I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out
with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA
will die. Lose-lose situation.

 

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From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

 

What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that  they sent
out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for
withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act.

 

This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know
of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this
will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters.  So now all
sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with
the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it
(there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all
the support it can get.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

I agree.  PETA does not have too good a record themselves.  This man simply
got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem.  I also
agree about those who tortue.  There was a man in the St. Louis area who
adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death.  He kept them
alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering.  If I had my
way, this man would have been shot on site.  I was called for jury duty on
an animal cruelty case.  They asked me if I had an opinion on the case.  I
said shot the sob.  They didn't call me for that jury.


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how
 anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially
 when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses
(no
 matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really
 surprised!  However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for
 several reasons. Natalie



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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM
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 Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort




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Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
If any of my cats were ever to get out  end up in a shelter, sweet  docile
as they are, they would so flip out that I've no doubt that they'd be
immediately euthanized-not to mention my FELV+  my diabetic cat would be
euthanized immediately just for their conditions.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

 

I've seen a lot about the NY quick kill bill, Christiane--it is horrible, so
many pets may be euthanized on intake before anyone has a chance to look for
them.The rest of the country (well, some of it) is moving toward
recognizing TNR and feral freedom, but this bill will put NY in reverse.
It is very sad.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
wrote:

Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local
rescues/shelters.  Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide
transportation to various rescues  shelters who then have responsibility
for the animals.  

 

As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a shelter
would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it.
http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally
advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it.  In NY,
my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the quick kill bill which
would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal
they deem to be under psychological pain

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 


Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

 

PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do?

I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out
with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA
will die. Lose-lose situation.

 

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From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

 

What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that  they sent
out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for
withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act.

 

This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know
of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this
will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters.  So now all
sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with
the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it
(there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all
the support it can get.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

I agree.  PETA does not have too good a record themselves.  This man simply
got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem.  I also
agree about those who tortue.  There was a man in the St. Louis area who
adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death.  He kept them
alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering.  If I had my
way, this man would have been shot on site.  I was called for jury duty on
an animal cruelty case.  They asked me if I had an opinion on the case.  I
said shot the sob.  They didn't call me for that jury.


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how
 anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially
 when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses
(no
 matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really
 surprised!  However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for
 several reasons. Natalie



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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM
 To: FeLV Talk
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort




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Re: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?

2012-02-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
Thing is that my cats will make themselves invisible when someone comes...even 
if they've seen them before. We all have to leave them to work, run errands, go 
out w friends, etc. And we all go away on trips. Short of boarding them in a 24 
hour hospital (way too stressful for cats), I don't know what anyone can do but 
get someone to care for them and hope they can at least eyeball each cat during 
our absences. 

Christiane Biagi
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Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

I can't compromise the very life of one of my punkins to make someone else 
happy. To thine own self be true!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:12 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I agree, when they are sick, it is off to the vet ASAP.  Then if I had 
 plans, I cancel. People who know how you feel about your furbabies will 
 understand.  My babies come first and everyone who knowsme knows that.
 
 
  Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 When my FeLV cats are sick I don't even go to the movies without having a 
 pet sittet check on them.
 Beth
 
 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 BTW - it's never a good idea to leave a pet being taken care of by someone
 who knows nothing about animals.in the future,  try to get a pet owner who
 can recognize a real problem!  There are professional pet services that can
 be pricey, but if you call a rescue group, they can often recommend a
 responsible and reliable rescuer in your area who also moonlights by caring
 for pets when owners are away! Having a pet is like having a child; always
 leave pertinent info, contacts in emergencies like  vet offices, relatives
 or friends who can help while you are away.
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of john pollack
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?
 
 
 
 get the kitten to the vetQUICK!!! after 2 days of not eating, cats can
 start getting liver damage
 
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 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?
 
 
 Please rush him to the vet immediately.
 
 On 02-27, Rashel Mereness wrote:
   Hi  -  I'm  new  and  have  been  reading the threads but I don't seen
   anything  that  addresses  my  situation. We have an 8 month old kitty
   that  tested positive for FIV (or was it FELV?) at a young age, and we
   plan to get him retested. He has been healthy, playful and had a great
   appetite. A few weeks ago, however, he started eating less and less of
   his  kibble,  which  we attributed to him wanting only the wet food we
   were giving to the dog. So we kept mixing a little into his kibble but
   he  was eating less but was otherwise fine. Then we went away over the
   weekend  and  came  back to find him very lethargic and breathing very
   heavy  -  not making a lot of noise with the breathing, but we can see
   his lungs expanding and contracting a great deal and very quickly.  He
   won't  eat, except he ate some of his favorite treats.  We had someone
   (who  he  doesn't  know) staying at our house Friday and then a person
   (who he knows) stopping in on Saturday and Sunday. They said he didn't
   eat  much.  No  mucous,  no  sneezing.  Sound  like anything you have
   experienced?
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

2012-02-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
Maybe she meant FIV?

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's definitely 
not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and 
never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona 
virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to 
contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in general.  Lee




From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


YES!
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
Hi Everyone
 
I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and 
of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
 
Details:
Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He 
was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
 
Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't 
think it is related.
 
Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.
 
If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
 
Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is 
not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost 
weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?
Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
with a reasonable quality?
 
Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.
 
Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
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Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
 is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
 general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
 lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
I understand that manufacturers are no longer making 1 year vaccine--its all
3 years.  In fact, most adult animals develop a long time immunity after the
first 3 year shot.  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th
woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case
I
 didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
vaccinations
 will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I
need
 to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything
else
 out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know
they
 were doing more research studies.
 Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
been
 to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then
the
 next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Agreed---not neutering a male cat ultimately is a whole lot more stressful
for the cat.  The procedure for male cats is a whole lot less intrusive than
for female  I would think that while there is always risk in any surgery, a
simple neuter would ultimately be better than not neutering.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
lernermiche...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

 

I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger
an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event.
The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in
my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating
will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats
generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so
much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats
are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I
have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost
clinic we use does it. 

Michelle

 

 

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From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He
seems to be

healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have
him

neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive
cat,

claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered

their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your
experience?

Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet
give

vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She
sent the 

blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that
same visit

when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14

2011-11-18 Thread Christiane Biagi
Or how about the ones that live to ripe old age-my Tucson is 13+ and
positive and a hefty 16 lbs!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marci Greer
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 11:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14

 

Hi Everyone,
 
We have a FELv + kitty Maddie who was diagnosed over 3 yrs ago and is doing
wonderfully, We just took another stray kitty named Charles to the vet on
Monday, before they did the combo test my husband said, no matter what the
test comes back we ARE NOT putting him to sleep, the vet came back in and he
did test a weak positive for FELv, if my husband would have not said what he
did I'm sure they would have started with putting him to sleep right then
(the same as they did with Maddie) , they did go ahead and neuter him and we
brought him home and he is doing very well (asymptomatic) and is rooming
with our Maddie. I talked to the vet regarding FELv because I can't
understand why the first option is always putting them to sleep, it makes me
crazy thinking about how many cats are put to sleep and don't deserve to be,
The vet said that FELv + cats will die a slow and painful death, I said ok
well what about the ones that test false positive or the ones that test
positive and are able to throw the virus off, he said he has never heard of
that happen, I guess what I am getting at is there any way to reverse what
these vets are taught in college. I know I'm grasping but I just hate this
so much for these cats that can lead a healthy life and aren't even given
the chance! 
 
Marci, Maddie,  Charles
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sad news - Jack, the cat, dies

2011-11-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
The airlines just keep shooting themselves in the foot  animals suffer!  If
only they would realize that there is this HUGE market out there for
travelers who want to travel with their pet.  Why not take a couple of
flights a week on major routes  have a couple of planes where animals of
all sizes can be kept in cabin in crates.  I do, however, have to put a plug
in for Continental-while I'm sure they're not perfect, I've worked with a
couple of shelters and we used them many times to transport animals to their
adopters many miles away.  We've never had a problem.

 

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sad news - Jack, the cat, dies

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/jack-cat-disappeared-jfk-airport-miracul
ously-reappearing-dies-5-article-1.973107 

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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
You've come to the right place!  Many of us do mix pos w. neg-my own pos is
13+ years old  I got her as a kitten.  She tested neg as a very young
kitten but then tested pos years later.  By that point, she'd been around my
other cats so I just decided to vaccinate them for felv and mix.  Nobody has
ever tested pos.  I also took in an older stray who (to my surprise) also
tested pos.  He lived a number of years w. all the other cats  died last
year from lymphoma-something the pos cats are more susceptible to.

 

But mixing is a personal decision.  Personally, I wouldn't think twice about
it.  Now as far as kitty, I would wait a few weeks  get it retested with
the IFA (blood drawn  sent to lab.  There is always the risk that the
Elissa (snap test done in office) could be a false pos or that kitty could
throw off the virus.  Remember that the virus does not actually kill the
kitty-but it weakens their immune system  they can be more susceptible to
uri, lymphoma, anemia, gum problems.  But my Tucson is a fat 16 lbs and
doing fine!  

 

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 6:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

 

I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old.
Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this
kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would
understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false
positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has
hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its
vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out
postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she
called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other
than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she
said it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is
the sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm
sorry I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also
take care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would
be kind enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was
elisa and it just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6
months old.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hi, new member here

2011-11-01 Thread Christiane Biagi
They are gorgeous cats--very very lucky to have found you!  I've have my
Tucson, a 12 year old FELV+ cat who I've had since she was a kitten.  She
tested neg on Elissa when she was a couple of months old but then tested pos
4 years later though she'd never been outside.  My other cats who she lived
with for years all tested neg.  I got them vaccinated  everyone's OK.  I
had another pos, my Romeo, a wonderful stray that I brought in from the
street after feeding him outside for a couple of years.  He died last year
from lymphoma after having been inside for 6 years. Our best guess is that
he was around 9 or 10 years old.

Tucson is a bit of a porko  I don't push too hard on keeping her weight
down.  Her only felv issues have been a couple of bouts of very low white
blood cell count.  I spotted a problem when she wouldn't eat for more than a
day.  Vet used immune regulin injections  it seemed to bring her blood
levels back up.  She's had some dental issues as well but overall, is in
generally good health.  I feed all of them Wellness canned with a bit of dry
for late night snack.  I found by cutting back on the dry, it helped with
their weight--always an issue for lazy, pampered indoor cats! LOL  I give
her a B Vitamin Complex as supplement  they get cosequin as they get older.
I am quicker to take her to vet if she looks a bit peaked--she lets you know
if she doesn't feel well.  She's had urinary tract infection, tore out a
nail, got herself bitten when she really pushed one of the other cat's
buttons, and on and on.  

Though they each have their own dishes, they play let's swap all the time.
They share litter boxes, toys, etc. and groom each other.  Romeo was not
sick a day in his life until the week before he died.  The lymphoma was in
his chest  very fast acting.  Because of his overall health, I regret not
having realized that he had more than a simple URI  waited an extra couple
of days to take him to vet.  Wouldn't have made a difference but he was in a
lot of discomfort those last couple of days.  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Anne Myles
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi, new member here

Hi, wanted to introduce myself and my cats.

I adopted two new adult kitties from a rural no-kill shelter in my area a
little over a month ago, after my 15-year-old cat passed away.  Little
orange Dublin and hunky white and tabby C.J. are both about two years old
males -- Dublin more of an estimate since he was found as an adult at a TNR
station covered in oil on St. Patrick's Day (C.J. was in rescue since he was
about five months old).  I adopted them both as being FeLV negative, though
I'd found out that Dublin had initially had a positive ELISA, then a
negative when he was retested after six weeks in quarantine.  The woman who
runs the rescue swore to me (as her vet told
her) that false negatives are common but false positives are not.  Well, so
much for that; I know better now.  I had them retested after three days at
my house, because I learned that Dublin had had ten teeth removed at a
dental a few days before he came home and my vet's office said that such bad
teeth at a young age was a common sign of FeLV.  And yup, Dublin's third
ELISA was a strong positive, as was a follow-up IFA.  C.J. tested negative,
and got his first Purevax vaccination that day, followed by the booster two
weeks later.

I agonized for a few days about sending Dublin back to the rescue, where
he'd go to a FeLV+ cat sanctuary, but he is such a special, amazingly sweet
cat (gives hugs and kisses, just amazingly social) and was so thrilled with
me and my home and is absolutely crazily besotted with my greyhound!  I
couldn't break his little heart.  So I've kept  him, and he and C.J. (also a
wonderful, loving boy) mix, since C.J. was already exposed to him at the
rescue (along with most of their other cats!!).  I am really heartened by
what I've read in the archives about how many of you have mixed cats without
the negative ones converting.  I manage to keep their food separate and
change their water and scoop their litter twice a day, but these guys play
and wrestle a lot, which is nervous-making.

Except for the bad teeth, Dublin seems really healthy.  He did have a bad
case of chin acne when he came, but it's healed up really well.  He eats
voraciously and has gained some weight, has a lovely silky coat, and is
becoming quite a rowdy little troublemaker too, always pouncing on C.J.'s
tail (he never played at the rescue).  It's not unreasonable to hope he
might have a few good years, is it (though I know there's no way to
predict)?

I've also seen mention of various supplements you give, and I wish someone
could give me a lowdown on what you essentially recommend (that is
reasonably affordable) and exactly how you dose it.

Lots of pictures of the cats here if you want to see 

Re: [Felvtalk] pleasehelp

2011-10-03 Thread Christiane Biagi
The decision is not an easy one.  She is just about due to deliver and you
need to consider the risk to her, as well as kittens, of an abortion at this
stage.  But you should know a few things about FIV:

. The male cat would not likely have given her FIV when he got her
pregnant-deep bite wounds are the most common form of transmission

. Even if your cat was FIV positive, she would not pass it on to her
kittens.  Virus does not cross placenta barrier

. However, kittens born to an FIV pos mom oftentimes test positive
for FIV.  They get their mom's antibodies and since test used relies on
presence of antibodies, they'll show as positive.  NO new kittens can ever
have FIV but it may be many months before their mom's antibodies leave their
system and during those months they'll test positive

. Cats who are vaccinated for FIV always test positive (again
because test looks for antibodies)-not a particularly effective vaccine 
the risk of the cat being mislabeled as FIV pos is too great

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of quinn gardner
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:30 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] pleasehelp

 

Hi
i have just found out tht my cat is pregnant 8.5wks to a stray that tested
positive for feline aids
i was due to have her fixed but was a little to late as she is 8mths now.
The vet wants me to take her in to get an abortion is this the only way???
Do i have no other options?Is this the best thing to do??

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[Felvtalk] Aslan's Cats

2011-09-20 Thread Christiane Biagi
Does anyone have any experience with Aslans Cats in Catskill, NY?  They were
very hard hit by Hurricane Irene and looking for help.  I'd never heard of
them though they seem to be a 501.3 org..

 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aslans-cats/15585065924?sk=wall 

 

Christiane Biagi

914-720-6888

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

2011-08-25 Thread Christiane Biagi
Are u sure you don't mean Ivermectin for demodectic mange?  If so, BE VERY
CAREFUL-collies  various herding breeds can carry a genetic mutation that
makes giving them Ivermectin (that's the stuff in Heartgard)

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

 

I just had a thought...I have the Plumb Veterinary drug handbook and maybe I
can find it in there. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks for all your
info.(-:  

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
wrote:

I'm not sure.  I was thinking the kind you use has to come from the vet and
is given as in-office treatments.  I think it's stronger than what you
bought for the collies but I'm not positive about it. 




I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain
 

  _  

From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:12:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed 

 

I do have a question. Is the Immunoregulon that sells on Revival Animal
Health ok to use? My Mom and I both acquired Collies that had demodectic
mange and that was one of the things we used to help treat them.

 

Thanks so much

Marcia

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On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
wrote:

I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!

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From: Maureen Olvey mailto:molvey...@hotmail.com  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM

Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

 

It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets
and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.
But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even
Fletch.  
 
What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell
count down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from
others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his
symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give
up.  If a vet says oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not
much that will help because he has FeLV then ask him what he would do if he
didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is
going to die everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive
with his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If
later on he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say let
him die.  The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he
is fine for the rest of his life.
 
Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken
two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet
tested them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV
but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal
from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But
in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity
to heal before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.
The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and
the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later
and he was fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.
He was like 8 years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in
that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover
because of the FIV.  LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the
cats are now fine.
 
FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful
eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if
funds permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and
treat it.
 
And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I
normally say to them.  Something to the effect of I'd rather be a crazy cat
(or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't
appreciate God's Creations!  Better to love too much than too little so
what exactly is wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to
do whatever you can to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from
God and to love is to honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the
way I say it nicely   ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to
kiss my animal loving butt!


I am not interested to know 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Christiane Biagi
You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!  There are 
just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life and death 
decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who have felv+ 
cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg at about 3 
months  post years later even though she’d never been exposed to the outside 
or any pos cats…..

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.

 

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif  www.Furkids.org 
http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.

New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.

 Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif  www.Furkids.org 
http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.

Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

 

April 


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Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

2011-08-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
My Tucson is 13  was found pos when she was 4.  She had tested neg as
kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth.  She
lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I
found her to be pos.  She's still going strong and none of the other cats
tested pos.  I vaccinated the others.  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

Hi everyone!  My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a
million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every
hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been
vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the
vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep
my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would
carry something in!
Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can
feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink
ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain.
Thanks so much for being here. 

Marcia
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Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

2011-08-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe
old age.  However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas,
for example.  Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street  he
died very quickly from lymphoma years after.  Basically, it seems the best
you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love.
I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low
white blood cell count  my vet used a series of immune regulin injections
on her  count bounced back up.  I probably run her to the vet faster than I
might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing.  I had a
senior blood panel done on her this year  everything was good.  But I know
that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every
day! LOL) and hope for the best.

 

As for the other cats, they had spent years together-sharing dishes,
grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting
into little scuffles.  They all tested neg  I just don't think its quite as
contagious as some of the literature  ( some vets) make it out to be.  

 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

 

Christiane

 

That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep
telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!!  I
had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow.
I hope he is negative also.

 

Thanks so much for sharing.

Take care

Marcia

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
wrote:

My Tucson is 13  was found pos when she was 4.  She had tested neg as
kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth.  She
lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I
found her to be pos.  She's still going strong and none of the other cats
tested pos.  I vaccinated the others.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

Hi everyone!  My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a
million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every
hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been
vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the
vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep
my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would
carry something in!
Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can
feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink
ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain.
Thanks so much for being here.

Marcia
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Marcia Baronda

Baronda Supplies  Service, Inc.

1550 S 2700 Rd.

Herington, Kansas 67449

Phone: 785-466-2501

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Hemy THANK YOU

2011-08-12 Thread Christiane Biagi
Yea but my theory is where the cats lie is the coolest spot.  They somehow
find the slightest breeze or the floor is cool or something--but there's a
reason why they lie where they do! LOL

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Hemy  THANK YOU

That's what we did' one has half a roof, the others have window screening
over the wire mesh - cuts down on debris and rain.  Another one has a sun
umbrella standing over part of it - and guess what...most cats lie in the
sun on the hottest of days!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Hemy  THANK YOU

I like the outdoor enclosure idea best!  I am owrking on plans for my pride.
Thinking about roofing half of it so they could be out when I am gone during
the day.  Then, if it rained or the sun was very hot, they could find
shelter.  Also, I could get a solar pump and put in a fountain in a small
pool for them.  Harley would especially love this!  He loves water and comes
in the shower with me.  He has also watched me and learned how to flush the
toilet so he can watch the water spin around.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 Dear All
 
  
 
 Update on my Dilemma and numerous questions..
 
 The little feral cat from my aunt's house is now safely in a large 
 cage
on
 my back deck.  Phew!   Forgotten Felines lent me the cage and advised that
 should be her transition place.  She's mad as heck and won't look at 
 me and hisses, but lets me clean the litter box, give her food and 
 change the water.  But this is only day 2.  She seems to be healing 
 from her tail amputation, and her hind leg wound/tumor (they aren't 
 sure).  My goal is
to
 let her stay in my yard - not my favorite thing, but can work (birds:
 beware).  I am open to finding her a home if she turns out to be 
 friendly enough.  I will Never take her to a shelter or give her 
 away to anyone I don't know and can't check up on.  She's had it tough
enough already.
 
 I call her Hemy (sorta short for Himalayan?).  She's half  lot of
things:
 she was already spayed; she is at least half Himalayan; she is half 
 feral and half friendly; she has a little clef palate; she is 
 blue-eyed and although looked awful with a damaged tail she is a 9 lb. 
 6 oz. beauty!  If she ever forgives me for causing her this trauma, we 
 may get to be
friends!
 
 I am considering building a larger enclosure for her, and maybe could 
 use
it
 to give the indoor cats some time outside.
 
 And thank you all so much for your help!  
 
 ~Bonnie
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
Not at my computer but there are sites that talk about rehoming ferals.  Best 
I can rember is to somehow contain cat in garage or big pen for 2 or 3 weeks n 
when I let it loose, it knows that this is the place for food. Mayne try alley 
cat alleys.

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not
have as good a motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sometimes local shelter has xtras from people who dump animals. If u buy new, 
theres one site thay I got 42 midwest crate frim fir around 70.  Will look up 
n send on to u

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

Beth,  I think this is going to have to be the answer.  Now the question…where 
to get the crate.  Those darn things are expensive.  I’m working on that now.  
I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to 
Forgotten Felines when finished.  I can’t say enough good about that 
organization.  They spay/neuter about 80 cats a week.  Bless them!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be 
releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going 
to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always 
stayed around once freed.

 

Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
 http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif  www.Furkids.org 
 http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

  _  

From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I’m literally an hour 
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” 
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the 
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only 
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and 
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That 
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her!

So here’s the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. 
 The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take her back to 
my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will 
happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good 
a motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
The place I bought the 42 crate:  

$77.95 and free shipping (Midwest Crate)
http://www.petstreetmall.com/Midwest-I-1542DD-Double-Door-iCrate-Dog-Crate/7
853/2963/ 

 

I last used it for 2 young kitties who I'd been feeding outside  who I knew
wouldn't last the winter.  Someone had lent me one of those hard sided dog
crates but I found that it didn't allow much air to circulate  they could
only see out the front.  With the wire crate, I used a sheet to drape over
it  sort of gave them a chance to see what was going on in the room at
different side by lifting on side or another.  I used a small covered litter
box inside  they did fine.  I made a hammock using a small towel.  Made
holes in all 4 corners; attached STRONG rope;  tied so that it hung above
the floor towards the front of crate.  This way, they had room to hang out
without fighting for space on the floor or climbing over each other to get
to the box.  I could put their food dishes towards the front so that it
wouldn't be close to the box.  They loved lying in that hammock  looking
around!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
Importance: High

 

Folks

I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning,
but am trying to figure this out with this cat.

 

So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been
suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again?

I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess.
I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit
stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!)..

 

Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and
experiences.  I deeply appreciate you all!

 

~Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters  you have no idea how far
animals wander.  A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from
its home about 10 miles away.  Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays,
bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from
home.  Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter 
maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the
cat's been out there for a couple of years.  

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate
himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's
pet.   some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were
sweet once we got our hands on them.

 

Was she scanned for a chip?  I would definitely do this.

 

She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost.

 

Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've
had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't
always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves  misses it.

 

So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn
out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been
crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before
where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows.  I
say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or
at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves
to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim.

 

Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I
missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people
just moved out, etc.).

 

Good luck and thank you for helping her!!

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:

Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do.  Place her in a room in the
house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly,
simply scared.  If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :(
 

  _  

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 +
From: merrykatme...@email.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma 



Hi Bonnie,

I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside.

Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks?  If so,
you should keep her in there - with litter, food  water  a place to hide
(large box with hole in it  some towels will do just fine) while you get
her accustomed to you as her new care giver.  Go in there everyday to be
with her - even if you don't touch her.  Stay in there for at least a
half-hour  read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to
hearing you. 

If you decide to name her - use her name over  over when you go in to feed
her.  Praise her for being a smart  strong kitty.  etc.

Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window
cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells
from inside.  That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box
outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings  won't be
so apt to bolt or run off.

Good luck!  It will be worth the time  the effort!!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

- Original Message -

From: Bonnie Hogue

Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

 

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

 

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

 

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not
have as good a motivation as I do.

 

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

 

But what would YOU do?

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

~Bonnie

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to  ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate 
 the cat instead of testing them.

 Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
 Apparently it costs too much - but I think the cost is worth saving 
 other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


 I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come 
 out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

 Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in 
 case =^_^=






 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com  
 molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are 
 indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  
 Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not 
 letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no 
 risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If 
 all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then 
 Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her 
 combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about 
 Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if 
 Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I 
 think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you decide
to get him current like Lynda said.

 Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the 
 butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

 Maureen

 sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC

 - Reply message -
 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant 
 apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took 
 Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I 
 don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without
testing her first.
 They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife 
 had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches 
 came to live here.

 I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go 
 ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
 I'll let you know what the vet says.
 Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about 
 what to do.

 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson 
 longhornf...@verizon.net
 wrote:

  Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the 
  first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first 
  for it to
 be
  effective.
 
  It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the 
  vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV 
  would.  I would
 keep
  her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone 
  and she
 has
  had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others 
  are
 all
  current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
 
  I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and 
  knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
 
  Keep us posted.
 
  Thanks,
  L
  - Original Message - From: Martha Walton 
 marthawal...@gmail.com
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 
 
   We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total 
  of 4
  cats.
  Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
 
  I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I 
  want to make sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is 
  up to date with
 all
  shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
  Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
 
  Here's the situation:
 
  *Peaches* (New Cat)
  Age: 4.5 yr
  Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* 
  before vaccination.
  Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st  
  2nd feline leukemia in 2009.
  She also had a vaccination in 2010
 
  I have 3 other cats:
  All cats will stay indoors!
 
  *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sort of makes me crazy cause a found cat that test pos for FIV is almost
always euthanized in shelters.  Who knows how many of those were owned cats
who, unfortunately, got the vaccine!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Ah, Christiane, you beat me to the punch!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi
ti...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after 
 being vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV
vaccination.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha 
 Walton
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
 To: Katy Doyle
 Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

  Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive 
 because she's had the FeLV vaccination.
 I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to  
 ask them to test Peaches.
 Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate 
  the cat instead of testing them.
 
  Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
  Apparently it costs too much - but I think the cost is worth 
  saving other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
 
 
  I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come 
  out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
 
  Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just 
  in case =^_^=
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com  
  molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats 
  are indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
  Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not 
  letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's 
  no risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  
  If all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then 
  Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her 
  combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about 
  Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course 
  if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  
  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again 
  if you
 decide
 to get him current like Lynda said.
 
  Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the 
  butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
 
  Maureen
 
  sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC
 
  - Reply message -
  From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant 
  apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took 
  Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I 
  don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations 
  without
 testing her first.
  They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife 
  had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how 
  Peaches came to live here.
 
  I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go 
  ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
  I'll let you know what the vet says.
  Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information 
  about what to do.
 
  On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson 
  longhornf...@verizon.net
  wrote:
 
   Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the 
   first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the 
   first for it to
  be
   effective.
  
   It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the 
   vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the 
   FIV would.  I would
  keep
   her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone 
   and she
  has
   had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others 
   are
  all
   current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
  
   I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and 
   knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
  
   Keep us posted.
  
   Thanks,
   L
   - Original Message - From: Martha Walton 
  marthawal...@gmail.com
   
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
  
  
We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total 
   of 4
   cats.
   Need advice

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
No--happens only w. FIV vaccine.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

I didn't realize that this is what happens with FeLV vaccines?  That's
terrible - it means that an abandoned or given up cat could tests positive
but only from a vaccine - I know it's the case with FIV Ft. Dodge vaccines,
that's why many vets don't like it very much!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to  ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate 
 the cat instead of testing them.

 Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
 Apparently it costs too much - but I think the cost is worth saving
other
 cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


 I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come 
 out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

 Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in 
 case =^_^=






 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com  
 molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are 
 indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  
 Only
if
 there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them 
 out
and
 you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to 
 the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats 
 have
been
 tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the 
 vaccination either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then 
 you really don't need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you 
 though.  Just my thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive 
 definitely get Nibbles up
to
 speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over 
 again
if
 you decide to get him current like Lynda said.

 Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the 
 butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

 Maureen

 sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC

 - Reply message -
 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant 
 apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches
 to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know 
 why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her
first.
 They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife 
 had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches 
 came to live here.

 I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go 
 ahead
and
 give Nibbles vaccinations.
 I'll let you know what the vet says.
 Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what
 to do.

 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson 
 longhornf...@verizon.net
 wrote:

  Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the 
  first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first 
  for it to
 be
  effective.
 
  It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the 
  vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV 
  would.  I would
 keep
  her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone 
  and
she
 has
  had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others 
  are
 all
  current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
 
  I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and 
  knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
 
  Keep us posted.
 
  Thanks,
  L
  - Original Message - From: Martha Walton 
 marthawal...@gmail.com
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 
 
   We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total 
  of 4
  cats.
  Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
 
  I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I 
  want to make sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is 
  up to date with
 all
  shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
  Peaches is sequestered to 

Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
 to the treatment for heartworm 
 after she was found to have them.
 She had been coughing for months and a local vet said maybe kennel 
 cough but not much was known about it and she was a free running dog 
 in the country.
 A few months later I took her in for her annual vaccinations and new 
 vet said heartworm had been bad in Ohio the last year or so and 
 suggested we test. She came back positive so he started the 
 treatment before we left that day telling me there were risks but 
 she would likely die for sure if something wasn't tried. That night 
 she came home and collapsed in the front yard and I watched her die. 
 Her heart stopped. 10 PM at night, nearest emergency vet was almost 
 2 hours away but didn't matter cause I didn't know they existed at 
 the time and they were in another city and no emergency listings in 
 local phone books. Vet I had taken her to had gone to his daughters 
 graduation that night and called back too late but said he probably 
 wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. Autopsy showed she 
 had more worms than heart left.
 I will NEVER not treat a dog for heartworm again.
 Period.
 Kat

 On 7/20/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 I guess it's you're damned if you do and damned if you don't!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 Christiane Biagi
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:26 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

 I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds but, if you've 
 ever seen a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these 
 critters look like, you'd err on the side of caution. I'm in NY and 
 we've gone to
 year round.
 While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up 
 here from warmer climates, dogs cats come all the time. A NY 
 mosquito bites a Florida infected dog  then bites a NY dog--you've 
 got a chance. And these days, folks travel all the time  
 everywhere with their pets. Now there are places where the climate 
 basically prevents larvae from forming... but for most of the 
 country, there are at least times of the year when mosquitoes live 
 that any cat or dog is at risk.
 But there are choices for HW meds...
 Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for 
 example.
 Thing is that HW is a silent killer. By the time the animal shows 
 symptoms, the disease is well advanced. And the treatment is 
 fraught with risk and a real strain on the animal's system. There 
 are some newer protocols to reduce risk--Dr. at U of FL has done 
 major studies which are published. Sadly, there is no treatment for 
 cats.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs




 Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly 
 diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have 
 teamed up in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into 
 giving year-round heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as 
 dogs. These so-called experts say they're doing this to improve 
 protection for individual pets, but the facts say their motives may 
 be
 less pure.


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 We had a discussion about Revolution a while back - here is a great 
 article on all wormers, and about Revolution, which is technically:
 Selamectin is also used to treat ear mites and some intestinal 
 worms; adverse reactions include hair loss at the site of 
 application, diarrhea, vomiting, muscle tremors, anorexia, 
 lethargy, salivation, rapid breathing, and contact allergy.

 And how veterinarians are handing out these products like candy, 
 etc.
 Important read!


































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Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-21 Thread Christiane Biagi
I'm so sorry this happened...  Heartworm is basically very silent until it
gets so bad the dog is in real danger.  They seem to be learning all sorts
of new things about treatment which is now more complicated then when
Immiticide was first developed.  Problem is that unless vet is very familiar
w. treatment, they may not know about newer protocols.  American Heartworm
Assoc does a decent job of describing those.  But even if those are
followed, Immiticide is basically arsenic and all sorts of things can
happen.  It doesn't kill adult worms but it sterilizes female worms.  It
does kill instantly the microfileria and as those enter the bloodstream in
mass, they can create a clot which kills a dog.  Then there is the more
newly found parasites that actually live in an adult hw  also die  can
also cause a clot.  That requires doxy for a couple of weeks before
treatment begins.  And dogs need  have absolute rest during treatment---not
easy to do!  For older, more fragile dogs, sometimes the best course is
Ivermectin (Heartgard)--sterilizes worms  over a course of time, they die.
Risky but sometimes less risky than Immiticide treatment.

Basically, there is no good reason to risk subjecting a dog to this--the
costs have come down  though I'm always reluctant to over medicate,
Interceptor is one pill I don't ever forget to give my dog every month. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

I live in Ohio and watched one of my dogs die of heartworm - or technically
she died of the reaction to the treatment for heartworm after she was found
to have them.
She had been coughing for months and a local vet said maybe kennel cough but
not much was known about it and she was a free running dog in the country.
A few months later I took her in for her annual vaccinations and new vet
said heartworm had been bad in Ohio the last year or so and suggested we
test.  She came back positive so he started the treatment before we left
that day telling me there were risks but she would likely die for sure if
something wasn't tried.  That night she came home and collapsed in the front
yard and I watched her die.  Her heart stopped. 10 PM at night, nearest
emergency vet was almost 2 hours away but didn't matter cause I didn't know
they existed at the time and they were in another city and no emergency
listings in local phone books.  Vet I had taken her to had gone to his
daughters graduation that night and called back too late but said he
probably wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway.  Autopsy showed she
had more worms than heart left.
I will NEVER not treat a dog for heartworm again.
Period.
Kat

On 7/20/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 I guess it's you're damned if you do and damned if you don't!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane 
 Biagi
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:26 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

 I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds  but, if you've ever 
 seen a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these critters 
 look like, you'd err on the side of caution.  I'm in NY and we've gone to
year round.
 While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up here 
 from warmer climates, dogs cats come all the time.  A NY mosquito 
 bites a Florida infected dog  then bites a NY dog--you've got a 
 chance.  And these days, folks travel all the time  everywhere with 
 their pets.  Now there are places where the climate basically prevents 
 larvae from forming... but for most of the country, there are at least 
 times of the year when mosquitoes live that any cat or dog is at risk.
But there are choices for HW meds...
 Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for example.  
 Thing is that HW is a silent killer.  By the time the animal shows 
 symptoms, the disease is well advanced.  And the treatment is fraught 
 with risk and a real strain on the animal's system.  There are some 
 newer protocols to reduce risk--Dr. at U of FL has done major studies 
 which are published.  Sadly, there is no treatment for cats.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs




   Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly 
 diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have 
 teamed up in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into 
 giving year-round heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as 
 dogs. These so-called experts say they're doing this to improve 
 protection

Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-20 Thread Christiane Biagi
I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds  but, if you've ever seen
a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these critters look like,
you'd err on the side of caution.  I'm in NY and we've gone to year round.
While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up here from
warmer climates, dogs cats come all the time.  A NY mosquito bites a
Florida infected dog  then bites a NY dog--you've got a chance.  And these
days, folks travel all the time  everywhere with their pets.  Now there are
places where the climate basically prevents larvae from forming... but for
most of the country, there are at least times of the year when mosquitoes
live that any cat or dog is at risk.  But there are choices for HW meds...
Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for example.  Thing
is that HW is a silent killer.  By the time the animal shows symptoms, the
disease is well advanced.  And the treatment is fraught with risk and a real
strain on the animal's system.  There are some newer protocols to reduce
risk--Dr. at U of FL has done major studies which are published.  Sadly,
there is no treatment for cats.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs




  Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly
diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have teamed up
in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into giving year-round
heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as dogs. These so-called
experts say they're doing this to improve protection for individual pets,
but the facts say their motives may be less pure.


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http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#ixzz1SeoF
YKZ8
http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#ixzz1SeoFY
KZ8

 


We had a discussion about Revolution a while back - here is a great article
on all wormers, and about Revolution, which is technically: Selamectin is
also used to treat ear mites and some intestinal worms; adverse reactions
include hair loss at the site of application, diarrhea, vomiting, muscle
tremors, anorexia, lethargy, salivation, rapid breathing, and contact
allergy.

And how veterinarians are handing out these products like candy, etc.
Important read!

 





 













 










 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

2011-07-20 Thread Christiane Biagi
Certain collie breeds  mixes, carry a gene (mdr1-1Δ mutation) which if
given Ivermectin (which is Heartgard) can kill them.  There are also studies
going on about herding dogs like Aussies, Shelties, Border collies, Old
English Sheepdogs, etc).  I give my Maltese Interceptor and it doesn't have
ivermectin.  I live in NY  we've been using year round heartworm prev for
years here.  


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

What breed of dogs should not take Heartguard? I have two adorable
dachshunds. I've been giving both my cats Interceptor. I live in Texas and
there are many mosquitos with our very humid climate. We also have had the
mosquitos get inside just from opening our doors to let the dogs out. I have
to give them something as a preventative.

- Original Message -
From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs


 I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds  but, if you've ever 
 seen
 a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these critters look like,
 you'd err on the side of caution.  I'm in NY and we've gone to year round.
 While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up here from
 warmer climates, dogs cats come all the time.  A NY mosquito bites a
 Florida infected dog  then bites a NY dog--you've got a chance.  And 
 these
 days, folks travel all the time  everywhere with their pets.  Now there 
 are
 places where the climate basically prevents larvae from forming... but for
 most of the country, there are at least times of the year when mosquitoes
 live that any cat or dog is at risk.  But there are choices for HW meds...
 Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for example. 
 Thing
 is that HW is a silent killer.  By the time the animal shows symptoms, the
 disease is well advanced.  And the treatment is fraught with risk and a 
 real
 strain on the animal's system.  There are some newer protocols to reduce
 risk--Dr. at U of FL has done major studies which are published.  Sadly,
 there is no treatment for cats.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs




  Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly
 diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have teamed up
 in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into giving year-round
 heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as dogs. These so-called
 experts say they're doing this to improve protection for individual pets,
 but the facts say their motives may be less pure.


 o

http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#ixzz1SeoF
 YKZ8

http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#ixzz1SeoFY
 KZ8




 We had a discussion about Revolution a while back - here is a great 
 article
 on all wormers, and about Revolution, which is technically: Selamectin is
 also used to treat ear mites and some intestinal worms; adverse reactions
 include hair loss at the site of application, diarrhea, vomiting, muscle
 tremors, anorexia, lethargy, salivation, rapid breathing, and contact
 allergy.

 And how veterinarians are handing out these products like candy, etc.
 Important read!


































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Re: [Felvtalk] UTI Question

2011-07-08 Thread Christiane Biagi
As someone who followed my little dog around with a dish to catch urine on a
very busy street in front of my apt house, I can relate!  I just put my head
down  wouldn't look at any passer by. LOL

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UTI Question

iT ISN' THE WORK INVOLVED IN CARING FOR THEM, IT IS WHAT YOU GET BACK FROM
THEM IN RETURN THAT COUNTS!  
A friend of mine had to follow her little dog around the yard with a shallow
dish to catch the urine for the vet.  She said she hoped that the neighbors
never saw her, or they would have thought she was crazy.  Folks around here
just do not think you need to go to all that trouble for cats and dogs,
ESPECIALLY CATS.  They think I am crazy because I take my pride to the vet
for shots, etc.  The only thing they are good for is out in the barn to
catch mice.  I have earned the name Crazy Cat Lady
 Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: 
 What a great invention of a litter box! I might have purchased it when 
 I had my diabetic cat. She passed away 2 yrs ago.  She made it easy 
 for me to catch her urine mid-stream. She would squat close to the 
 litter but not sit on it, with her rear end towards me and I could 
 catch it in a small, sterilized bottle cap. Then I could get her 
 keytone level by dipping the strip into her urine. I had to prick her 
 ear to get her blood to get her glucose. I did this for 9 yrs (she 
 lived to be 17 1/2 yrs).  I still miss her even though she was a lot of
work.
 
 RIP, Pebbles!
 
 Sorry, I got carried away...
 
 L
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UTI Question
 
 
  My Boby was urinating out of the box, all over the house.  He had a 
  problem with salcite and sturivite stones.  Then Casey had stones.  
  She got over them, but Bobby did not.  Being a male, the urether was 
  more narrow and he did not make it tru the treatment time.  Homey is 
  doing gret now.  I would check hm out with the vet and take a fresh 
  urine sample for testing.  I found a special litter box that uses 
  safflower seed instead of litter.  It allows the urine to go thru to 
  a collection box that has a pour spout so you can pur it into a pill
bottle and take it to the vet.
  It was pricey ($60.00) but really comes in handy when you suspect a 
  urinary tract infection or stones.  Also great for diabetic cats - 
  invented by a lady with a diabetic cat.  Only thing is they have to 
  be seperated from the others so there is no chance of others using the
box.
   Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
  Forgot this part of the question before:  Sometimes, cats don't 
  like the type of litter, too!  I have a friend who uses shredded 
  newspaper for cats that don't like any kind of litter!
  BTW - OxiClean and X-O are GREAT to clean urine stain and odor!!
  When  I scoop the litter, I remove solids, and also wet litter, by 
  gently holding litter box up...then I sprinkle baking soda on the 
  wet area, and then some more mixed into the litter - keeps the 
  litter clean for a long time and doesn't stink.  I do NOT use 
  clumping litter; regular litter may not clump into a hard ball, but it
can easily be removed!
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
  Wilson
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UTI Question
 
  My first thought was, how many litter boxes does he have access to? 
  When I had one cat, he urinated on my bed too (thank goodness I buy 
  the waterproof mattress pad) and that was his way of telling me he 
  wanted another. This is what my vet advised me. He got another box 
  and he has been fine ever since.
  Now I have another kitty, therefore, I got another litter box. My 
  vet said the rule is one litter box for every cat, plus one! My cat 
  was an exception at the time he was an only cat.  Also, every two 
  weeks, I empty all the litter boxes, disinfect them with liquid 
  lysol, dry them thoroughly and fill
 
  them again with litter. This has helped as well. It's work, but 
  it's better than cat urine on carpets, beds, sofas, etc.
 
  I hope nothing is medically wrong with him. Good luck, and keep us 
  posted
  :)
 
  Lynda
  - Original Message -
  From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:23 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] UTI Question
 
 
   This is a little off topic, but please forgive me. My email is 
   acting up and I've been unsubbed from my more general cat 
   discussion list.
  
   I'm fostering a neutered male cat that is urinating outside of 
   the 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

2011-06-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
My Tucson tested neg on Elissa (in office) snap test when she was 6-8 weeks
old.  Then almost 6 years later, she was a bit ill  my very sharp vet at
the time, retested her  she tested pos for FELV (Elissa  IFA).  Now 7
years later, Tucson is still with us and intermixed with the 3 other cats
had lived with prior to the pos test.  They all tested neg even though they
had shared dishes, litter boxes, toys, groomed each other, etc. all those
years.  I did lose my romeo, a stray I took in who did turn out to be pos.
He was around 4 when I took him in  died last year 6 years later of
lymphoma.  Again, I mixed all of them.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

Natalie,
Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have positive
babies.  Happened to me.  Also, if they are tested immediately upon rescue,
there can be false negatives because the virus is still incubating and
hasn't had time to show up yet.  Also happened to me.  Even if a rescue or
shelter has run tests on mom and all babies, they should warn people not to
put too much faith in a single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the
importance of quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run.
In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still negative.  One
of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV issues until the very
end.  He was a joy to have known, and I still miss him.

Best wishes,
Beth

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net
 I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is 
 totally unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if 
 there was a mother cat, she should have been tested.  Depending on the 
 kitten's age at the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also 
 have been tested!  Any cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV
negative!
 I'm sure you will hear more from others!
 Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma!
 Natalie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite

2011-06-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
All the advice u got is got is good BUT if u start seeing red line going up to 
arm, get to dr right away. Have had many cat bites but one last dec required 
overnite in hospital for iv antibiotics to avoid sepsis. Something to do w 
bacteria in cats moiuth.

Christiane Biagi
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Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:

Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to 
seeing 
the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by 
another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I wanted 
to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided 
to 
suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of 
holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still 
does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid 
about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a 
cat 
bite. Should I visit the doctor??
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite

2011-06-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
ALL cats have a specific bacyeria in their mouth  (begins w p; not jult felv

Christiane Biagi
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Susan Ang sea7...@gmail.com wrote:

Wash the wound with antibiotic soap and keep antibiotic ointment on it. Also 
treat with hot compresses. It will draw white blood cells to the area. The Dr 
told me to do this. 
Autumn bit the fire out of me when I was 6 months pregnant. My hand swelled up 
and was red and sore. I never developed streaks, but went to Urgent Care for 
antibiotics. Make sure you eat your yogurt, if you get them. They are STRONG. 
FELV + have filthy mouths:-/
I also urge you not to tell them that it was your cat. Just emphasize that 
said cat had it's rabies shot. 
~Susan A

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On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to 
 seeing 
 the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by 
 another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I 
 wanted 
 to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided 
 to 
 suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of 
 holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still 
 does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid 
 about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a 
 cat 
 bite. Should I visit the doctor??
  Jannes 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite

2011-06-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
She prob got iv antibiotics..maybe ceflex...

Christiane Biagi
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Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

My mother had a red line going up her arm after being bitten while she was 
medicating one of her cats and received Vitamin C by IV!  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 10:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite

All the advice u got is got is good BUT if u start seeing red line going up to 
arm, get to dr right away. Have had many cat bites but one last dec required 
overnite in hospital for iv antibiotics to avoid sepsis. Something to do w 
bacteria in cats moiuth.

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:

Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to 
seeing 
the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by 
another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I 
wanted 
to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided 
to 
suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of 
holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still 
does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid 
about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a 
cat 
bite. Should I visit the doctor??
 Jannes 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in chest cavity

2011-05-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
My romeo developed very labored breathing very quickly. Then fluid in lyngs was 
found n when they analyzed fluid n took xrays, they found lymphoma. Not to 
asume the same w this cat, but things went very bad w. Romeo very quickly.

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vixen...@verizon.net wrote:

Hello Everyone,
I've been away from the list for a very long time, but of course we 
always come back when we have a baby in trouble.  Hideyo called me and 
asked if I would contact you to help with research on how to help a 
friend of her's felv+ Tortie girl name Pistachio.

Pistachio is two years old and before this she's had no symptoms and 
been very healthy and happy.  For the last couple of weeks she's lost 
weight and recently they found out she was building up fluid in her 
chest cavity.  They removed 100cc of fluid last Friday 13th, it was 
rather clear.  They don't know what's causing (waiting for reports), so 
right now the only thing she's on is abx (I asked Hideyo which abx, and 
she said she couldn't remember the name, but had never heard of it 
before).  They don't know what's causing it, but of course because she's 
felv+ they are just blaming that.  After the fluid was removed, she 
returned to her happy self and began eating and acting normal.  She's 
still okay now, but her breathing is more labored then it would be 
normally, (faster respiratory rate).

So, here's the question...  What do you wonderful experienced people 
usually suggest first when there is fluid build up?  Are there any 
success stories, or does this usually mean the beginning of the end?  
Her friend is of course a little panicked and needs help!

Hideyo had wondered about Lasix, but the vet didn't want to use it 
because something to do with the location of the fluid deposit (she's a 
little vague about exactly why).  Hideyo was thinking Interferon, 
Imulin, some sort of diuretic herb, Rutin (sp?)...  What should they do?

I'm writing for Hideyo and her friend because Hideyo's can not get 
online until tomorrow at work.   Could you please cc any response 
directly to Hideyo's email address until she can re-join the list?
Thank you guys, bless you and your babies,
Nina




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Re: [Felvtalk] Discordant Results (ELISA+/IFA-)

2011-05-12 Thread Christiane Biagi
Ilost my romeo to. Lymphoma but he was around 4 when I brought him in after 
feeding him for couple of years. He lived 4 years inside. My Tucson is 12 n 17 
lbs. She was diagnosed felv when 4. I have 3 negs n have mixed 4 years. Thing 
is that this an ancient virus n if if were that deadly, there would be no 
domestic cats. Most cats r never tested -so who knows how many r pos.

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Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

I'm glad that works for you Beth. I'm just advising of the word of caution, 
that's all. I'm not paranoid but this disease is very contagious and is the 
leading viral killer of cats. Vaccination helps tremendously but is not a 
100% guarantee, just like other vaccines. Even when I am given the ok to get 
another cat, I will have the kitty vaccinated for added comfort even though 
it's not 100% guarantee.

It's better to be safe than sorry. It would be a dream come true to have a 
cure for this horrible disease.

Best wishes to each of you and blessings to all the kitties who live with 
FeLV daily.
- Original Message - 
From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Discordant Results (ELISA+/IFA-)


ALL my negative cats are vaccinated. I have been mixing my cats for over
 10 years.My vet said if I separated them I would only be stressing them
 out. I vaccinate my negatives every 6 months ON MY VET'S ADVICE. My
FIV+ cat never even got it  I had him 10 years. I have had as many
as 5 positives  5 negatives living freely with each other -
Grooming, sharing food, water, litter. I have had my negative cats
re-tested multiple times over the last 10 years  none of them have
ever gotten the virus.
Yes, this is a personal choice,  no, I am
 not telling you to do it, but with the proper precautions you do not
have to be paranoid about FeLV.
Please search the archives on
mixing to see how other people are handling the situation. I wish you
 all you kitties well. I know it is scary when you come on
something you have never dealt with
 before. I had no idea what I was getting into when I got my first
positive. Within 6 months I had 3 of them (the neighborhood I moved into
 was overrunning with strays). Thank goodness I had such a great vet who
 didn't freak out about this virus  tell me they had to have
another home or be put down.
My main goal ever since is to show people they can keep these kitties 
safely.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

--- On Thu, 5/12/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Discordant Results (ELISA+/IFA-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 8:38 AM

Kasie,

You are wise to not bring Grace home in fear of exposing your other cat. You 
could get your other cat vaccinated for FeLV. However, the FeLV vaccine has 
only 80% to 85% protection, but it's better than zero. This is one option if 
nothing else.

As you know, there is a chance that she clears the virus. It's good that 
Grace is IFA negative!! This disease is not black  white. There are too 
many if's for me to ever take a chance in mixing positives with negatives. 
In fact, I'm in the same boat. I adopted a 3 mos. old kitten last year in 
Sept. He was neutered in Nov  was born with coccidia along with the rest of 
his litter ( the Humane Society tested him for FeLV the day he was 
neutered). The HS vet said he was negative. On March 10th of this year I had 
to put him to sleep. He had a faint positive on the FeLV test. He was not 
himself the day prior. When I took him in he was anemic, had a heart murmur 
and his blood oxygen level was very low. My vet said their was a very slim 
chance that he would survive even with a blood transfusion. He had too many 
health issues which compromised his immune system.

I also have a 2 yr old male cat at home that has always been an indoor cat. 
I never knew of this disease, therefore, he was not vaccinated against it. 
Having fostered then adopting my HS kitten, my adult cat was probably 
exposed to this virus for the 6 mos that I had my kitten (of course we don't 
know exactly when he was shedding the virus). So far, my adult cat, Sugar, 
has tested ELISA negative. I had Sugar tested the day I put the kitten to 
sleep, then again 30 days later, and again this month. I'm going to test him 
next month as well. Since all the ELISA tests have been negative, we did not 
do an IFA test.

Every cat's immune system is different. I know people do mix, but I hope at 
least they are mixing with negatives that have been vaccinated. This is just 
my opinion. I'm sure that this may work for some, but for newbies like 
myself experiencing this for the first time, I proceed with much caution. I 
will not bring home another cat or kitten until I know Sugar is in the 
clear. He so wants another companion to play with!

I will keep Grace in my thoughts and 

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Christiane Biagi
Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or
saliva/tears???  Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test  its
notorious for being wrong.  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative.  An initial positive on the
Elisa  the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative
on the IFA.

On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:
 Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no
clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has
been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV
positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to
clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus
from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I
have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that
there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3
of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are
99.999% accurate.
 Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2
years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a
natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the
non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very
small.
 I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
 Tanya


 --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net  wrote:

 From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from
 IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
 negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
 first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.

 So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right 
 now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this 
 confirmed info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into 
 her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the 
 next IFA in a month   all this IFA means is that she does not have 
 melanoma or something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you 
 all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman 
 with the sanctuary) but I need your input.

 My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't 
 done for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition 
 her out of the condo. Into a crate.
 Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a 
 twin bed in there but am going to take the frame  out  put the 
 mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed 
 in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall.  There 
 is a low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have that but 
 will barricade everything else  leave several open crates with 
 towels around also.

 Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

 I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of 
 my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me 
 a nice cat but it would be positive   that would eliminate any 
 little chance Poppy might have.

 Your thoughts, please please.

 Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

2011-04-16 Thread Christiane Biagi
I live outside o NYC  just got 2 stray kitties vaccinated, neutered,
microchipped  FELV tested.  Had s/n certificates  it still cost me $700.
And my vet is far from the highest fee.  We sometimes forget that vet care
is getting as expensive as human med care.  And when you consider that many
people have more than one pet, the cost can be beyond their reach.  At least
w. humans, you know that if your child gets really sick, you can go to any
emergency room--with pets, unless you've got the cash--you're not getting
treatment.  One vet about 10 miles from me charges $800 for male
neuterand has customers!  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

That is ridiculous.  The most I have paid is about $200 and that is laser
with 3 days extra boarding (Lost two beautiful cats 3 days after they were
spayed.  Different vets, unrelated cats within a couple of months of each
other and had problems finding a vet as they died in my armswon't happen
again).


On Apr 16, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Natalie wrote:

 Part of it is understandable if you consider the extremely high cost 
 of veterinarians - and most people are not aware of low-cost 
 certificates, and the worst is that so few vets participate in those 
 programs. I found out that in our area, a spay can be as much as $500 
 for a female cat - who, but the very rich (and they don't even want to 
 part with their money) can afford this?  When we were spaying and 
 neutering cats that we trapped in Mexico, the vet charged us (his 
 regular price) $55! Of course, for locals, even
 that is a terrifically high cost, that's why we paid for them.   
 People are
 to blame for these horrible consequences - nobody should be homeless, 
 not even animals. There was a show last Sunday morning on CBS with 
 Charles Osgood - about animals, how many dogs and cat owners there are 
 in the USA, how popular they are and how well they are cared for, 
 pampered, doted on, to extremesNOT a single word about cats and 
 dogs languishing in kill-shelters, in back alleys scrounging for 
 survival, tortured and abused, dying from preventable diseases, 
 hunger, and extreme weatherI've been too busy to write them a 
 letter, although I still plan to.  The story made it seem like all's 
 well with cats and dogs!  Natalie

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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:41 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

 If only all people would neuter/spay their animals, the world would be 
 much better and we would be spared the heartache of dealing with the 
 deaths of our furbabies we have adopted.  Can not understand why 
 people refuse to do this and why they just dispose of the unwanted 
 babies by throwing them out for someone else to care for or to be 
 killed by a car or dog or coyote.
  Heather Clark heatherjcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 My heart aches for your loss.  You gave Rosie, Murphy, and her 
 brothers
 all
 you could.  They were safe, loved, and comfortable.  Bless you for 
 taking such good care of them and knowing when to let them cross the 
 bridge.  You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless Android

 On Mar 30, 2011 8:15 AM, 2nd Hotmail cstet...@hotmail.com wrote:

 It breaks my heart, immensely!!! I am so sorry for your loss!

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Mar 29, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Alice Flowers 
 aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

2011-04-16 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sometimes, local shelters have them...  

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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Ok, how d you gt low cost certificates?  
On Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:58 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Part of it is understandable if you consider the extremely high cost 
 of veterinarians - and most people are not aware of low-cost 
 certificates, and the worst is that so few vets participate in those 
 programs. I found out that in our area, a spay can be as much as $500 
 for a female cat - who, but the very rich (and they don't even want to 
 part with their money) can afford this?  When we were spaying and 
 neutering cats that we trapped in Mexico, the vet charged us (his 
 regular price) $55! Of course, for locals, even that is a 
 terrifically high cost, that's why we paid for them.  People are to 
 blame for these horrible consequences - nobody should be homeless, not 
 even animals. There was a show last Sunday morning on CBS with Charles 
 Osgood - about animals, how many dogs and cat owners there are in the 
 USA, how popular they are and how well they are cared for, pampered, 
 doted on, to extremesNOT a single word about cats and dogs 
 languishing in kill-shelters, in back alleys scrounging for survival, 
 tortured and abused, dying from preventable diseases, hunger, and 
 extreme weatherI've been too busy to write them a letter, although 
 I still plan to.  The story made it seem like all's well with cats and 
 dogs!  Natalie
  
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:41 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS
  
 If only all people would neuter/spay their animals, the world would be 
 much better and we would be spared the heartache of dealing with the 
 deaths of our furbabies we have adopted.  Can not understand why 
 people refuse to do this and why they just dispose of the unwanted 
 babies by throwing them out for someone else to care for or to be killed
by a car or dog or coyote.
  Heather Clark heatherjcl...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My heart aches for your loss.  You gave Rosie, Murphy, and her 
  brothers
 all
  you could.  They were safe, loved, and comfortable.  Bless you for 
  taking such good care of them and knowing when to let them cross the 
  bridge.  You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
First off, if she's neg on IFA I would go with that!  Don't know why you
wouldn't.  Many of us mix pos/neg.  I did that by accident when 1 of my cats
tested pos 4 1/2 years after she tested neg on snap test.  Never been
outside so I assume she always had it.  My other 3 cats were around her
since kittenhood  nobody caught it even though they groomed, ate from same
dishes, used same boxes, had the occasionally tussle, et.  Got the 3 neg
vacc  5 years later, everybody's fine.  

My orig neg on the Elissa got me reading  apparently, just as you can get a
false neg, you can also get a false pos.  I'd go w. IFA which you should get
within a day or so after blood is drawn.  I'd put her in kitty condo  let
her view the sights  sounds of indoor living!  

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re positives  negatives

I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now  when the IFA test
results come in. I've been reading  reading  from what I can gather, the
old dictums about NEVER havinig positive  negative cats even in the same
house has been abandoned.  From what I have read, the general sense is that
it's fine for positives  negatives to be in the same home, but should be
separate so there is no chance of exchanging 
fluids such as with a bite, but more importantly with mutual grooming.   
But I know also that some of you have both positives  negatives really
living together, not separate. Right?

What about if I put Poppy in her condo in the spare bedroom  let me cats
visit, so at  least she SEES other cats.  What is she hisses  spits?  Would
that have a chance of infecting any of mine who were nosing around her
condo?  My feeling is that it would.

Also how effective is the vaccine these days?  I know that some years ago
the figure was about 30% so I never  had any of my cats vaccinated.  
Has it been  improved?

Right now we are still waiting for the IFA test for Poppy. And I guess she
needs retesting on that in at least a month. I do NOT want to keep her alone
until then.  We  have a sanctuary for her if she tests IFA positive cause
then we know that she is really positive. But the person who runs it tells
me that regardless of how she tests on the IFA, she HAS leukemia. Period.
And would go in with the positive cats. But my understanding  is that if she
is IFA negative, she has a chance of fighting it off  putting her in with
the positives is giving up.  I think she should only go in with the
positives if she tests IFA positive.

Can anyone help me sort this out?

Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
I'd love to hear ideas on that one! LOL  I have 6 sep dishes  feed in 2 sep
rooms... but, the other one's dish always seems to be more attractive for
some reason-LOL  There are times that I look over  its as though one said,
everyone more one to the right  they did!  And then there's the dog who
thinks I've put down 6 dishes of treats for him!!!

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives  negatives

How do you keep feeding bowls seperate?  I have 7 and don't have enough
rooms to keep them out of each other's bowls.  Besides, each one thinks that
he other's food is diffeent and better than theirs so the first few minutes
of feeding is spent trading bowls just t make sure I get the best food.


 Sharon Catalan scata...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello Pam,
 
 My 3 cats have been living together for 10 years now until my boy-cat 
 was just recently diagnosed with FeLV.  He may have contracted it 2 
 years ago when he ran outside and got into a fight with another cat.  
 We had the 2 other girl-cats tested and they're both negative.  We had 
 the 2 other girl-cats vaccinated and currently, they are separated.  
 Doctor said that they can be together 30days after the 2 other cats 
 receive their 2nd shot of FeLV vaccination.  Also, according to our 
 doctor, it should be okay for them to be together again as long as 
 they don't bite/scratch each other or share bodily fluids.  Just keep 
 their feeding stuff completely separate.  My cats never fight with 
 each other although occasionally, the other cat will eat someone's 
 leftover and I think that is the reason that the 2 others cats never 
 contracted it considering that the other one had FeLV for quite some time
now.
 
 Sharon
 
 On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
wrote:
 
  I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now  when the 
  IFA test results come in. I've been reading  reading  from what I 
  can gather, the old dictums about NEVER havinig positive  negative 
  cats even in the same house has been abandoned.  From what I have 
  read, the general sense is that it's fine for positives  negatives 
  to be in the same home, but should be separate so there is no chance of
exchanging fluids such as with a bite, but
  more importantly with mutual grooming.   But I know also that some of
you
  have both positives  negatives really living together, not separate.
Right?
 
  What about if I put Poppy in her condo in the spare bedroom  let me 
  cats visit, so at  least she SEES other cats.  What is she hisses  
  spits?  Would that have a chance of infecting any of mine who were 
  nosing around her condo?  My feeling is that it would.
 
  Also how effective is the vaccine these days?  I know that some 
  years ago the figure was about 30% so I never  had any of my cats 
  vaccinated.  Has it been  improved?
 
  Right now we are still waiting for the IFA test for Poppy. And I 
  guess she needs retesting on that in at least a month. I do NOT want 
  to keep her alone until then.  We  have a sanctuary for her if she 
  tests IFA positive cause then we know that she is really positive. 
  But the person who runs it tells  me that regardless of how she tests on
the IFA, she HAS leukemia. Period.
   And would go in with the positive cats. But my understanding  is 
  that if she is IFA negative, she has a chance of fighting it off  
  putting her in with the positives is giving up.  I think she should 
  only go in with the positives if she tests IFA positive.
 
  Can anyone help me sort this out?
 
  Pam
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Does vet think she might need antibiotics?  I'd keep giving her soft of
liquefied food--anything that she'll eat.  Stuff she can lick up and not
have to chew.  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:12 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abbey

Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive.
She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to
water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or
fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking
about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on
steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or
anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
 Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
offer. Thank you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New Member

2011-04-03 Thread Christiane Biagi
When you post or  answer a post on the board, everyone gets it--so we've all
gotten your post.

Good for you for taking in these little guys!  And for TNR as many of the
others as you can.  I have 1 pos  3 neg who have all lived together for
years w. no problem.  I've also taken in two kittens just before our big
snow storm  luckily, they are neg.  Neg cats are vaccinated  I've never
had come pos. 

My Tucson is 13 years old, 17 lbs  doing fine.  But I did lose Romeo, a
10+former stray from lymphoma last year.  Folks on this board have had a
whole lot more experience than me but it seems the critical time is
kittenhood  early adolescence.  How is Mr. Kitty doing?  The pos are s
susceptible to any sort of infection, URI, UTI, etc.  I tend to take Tucson
in to the vet if she's looking a little pt eaked (usually, for her, means
she won't eat!).

Some folks give Interferon as prev but I never have.  Tucson is a big
cuddler but can be difficult to medicate  my Romeo would freak out if you
ever had to hold him down.  I feed them Wellness canned  Blue Buffalo lite
dry (and various treats-LOL).  

How are Hello  Mr. Kitty enjoying indoor life!  Bet they're thrilled to be
in from the cold

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Charles J Driscoll
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member

I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on
the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.

Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me.
Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their
heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March
2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made
friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without
getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a
healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and
white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white
seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a
big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. 
They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty
on all terms, watching out for him, washing him.

Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I
grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was
on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care
of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we
now have the black and white kitten (11 months old
now) in the house since Feb 14th and on:

Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral
supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick
right from finger, which he does)

I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV.
so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.

I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for
houseLOL)

Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit
tail
V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb
Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd

The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and
lives and eats by a women down the block.

Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
thank you
reneeny

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Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(

2011-04-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
So sorry for your loss…and I know he  Taz  all the other fur babies are 
watching over you…

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 11:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :(

 

Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me. 

It is hard on me since we have been together for many years. 

He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in 
rescue.

 

My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully in 
his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again. 

 

He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially by 
my Taz as he loved him too.

 

 

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue

Dedicated to the welfare of animals.

 

 
Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.

 




 From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

 Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's 
 illness. He
 has
 liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been
 hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed 
 into a
 skill
 nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to 
 the
 hospital.

 He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped 
 working.
 Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he 
 wants for
 comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again.

 I want to make myself available at all times for him.
 He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old 
 but it
 isn't
 really.
 Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of 
 this.
 Hospice
 is available to me 24 hours a day.

 Sincerely,
 Terrie

 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
 Sultan, WA. 98294
 Terrie Mohr-Forker
 http://tazzys.org/
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 Dedicated to the welfare of animals.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

2011-03-30 Thread Christiane Biagi
Ringworm can be tricky...  Had a kitten who I brought up from a shelter who
had it.  Not the worst thing in the world but untreated, it will spread 
harm cat.  Vet gave me a liquid to apply  in  a few weeks, it cleared up.
There's also a pill medicine that can be used but it does have a bit more
risk.  Have a friend who has been using the generic people ringworm paste
for years  says it works fine--a lot cheaper than prescription.  Are these
cats that you could apply a lotion on?  If so, I can ask what human stuff
she uses  how much..  If not, I can dig around for info on the pills.  

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

Pine horse bedding works well for a litter.  My guys came from a pine
thicket so it works really well with them.  40 pounds for $8 (?).  Of course
I change it a lot more often than the clay but I can throw it in a field or
use it as mulch or whatever (turns to sawdust).  Sounds like you have the
litter issue down though.  Raw (for people who like
it) meat and lightly cooked with lots of juices really extends food and it
is truly good for cats.  A neighbor just gave me two large roasts that had
some freezer burnmy friends don't mind.  As far as fish including
mackeral and salmonI break teh pieces into something akin to mush and
mix some extra water in...then let it sit for a few minutes or more.  The
ferals get more water and eat the fish.

Glad for the information on Purina Hairball.  It is hard to know what ferals
need.  Does anyone have experience with ringworm and ferals?

I don't know if any of these guys are FeLV+ or not.  I have refused to have
them tested.  They have been together for so long that it just doesn't
matter (re passing the virus on) and I do the very best I can for them
health wise.


On Mar 30, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Katy Doyle wrote:

 My animals love all of the Blue Buffalo flavors (cats and dog), I'm 
 lucky because mine are not picky eaters. However, they tend to throw 
 up when they eat other brands... I can't figure out why. So I've 
 started by mixing Purina Hairball with the Blue Buffalo to make it 
 stretch longer.

 I'm also going to start to cook up some meat for them as a supplement. 
 :-) Buddy LOVES roast beef! Weird right?

 Cat litter, I go to Sam's (or Costco, depends on where you live) and 
 get the
 50 lb bag of clay cat litter for $7 and mix it with the nicer  
 clumping
 litter. It still works great and it stretches the good stuff further.
 I don't know anything about reverse mortgages, I just bought my first 
 house (I'm 23) about a hear ago. Having special needs cats is 
 difficult when money is tight and I'm just starting out on my own.

 --Katy



 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:38 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My pride is on Blue Buffalo DUCK.  For some reason, they do not 
 like chicken no matter what brand of food.  Occassionaly, I get them 
 some Mackeral canned for humans and they love it, broth only.  Why 
 they don't eat the meat I don't know.  It seems that the stronge the 
 smell, the better they like it.  Salmon also turns them off.  Turkey 
 is so so.  Beef is also so so.
 Saw a food the other day that is buffalo meat, thought I might try 
 it.  Do know one thing, these healthy foods are breaking the bank.  7 
 cats go thru 2 bags a month (x $33.00 per bag.
 I have found a cheaper source of litter.  They like World's Best 
 which is made from corn.  I can cut cost more by buying horse bedding 
 made from coursely ground corn and corn cobs.  Doesn't work too good 
 with the scoopers, but does the job of stopping odor and clumps well 
 enough.  Things are getting tight, money wise and am going back to 
 work at 70 as soon as I get a job of some kind.  SS does not cut it 
 when heating bills go up and insurance costs are added in.  Has 
 anyone had experience with reverse mortgagees?  Been thinking about 
 that.  At least it would keep the cats and I in our home.
  Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 They aren't thrilled w. Turkey but LOVE that Sardines, Shrimp  
 Crab.  We rotate through the different flavors cause we wouldn't 
 want the little buggers to get bored with their food-LOL.  They 
 finally agreed to all eat some Blue Buffalo Lite dry but it took a 
 bit of doing.  They're not
 spoiled
 or anything!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie 
 Hogue
 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:25 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

 My cats eat canned Wellness but only the salmon and turkey flavor.  
 Go figure.
 They *Love* Prarie chicken dryed catfood.  It's pretty good 
 nutrition-wise.  And no, it's not made out of 'prarie chickens'...
 ~Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fish for cats

2011-03-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
Guess the bottom line is just like it is for human--eat a bit of everything
 balance your diet.  Of course, for a couple of mine, little bit is a
challenge!  I have, however, tried to eliminate corn, wheat  soy cause my
Tucson seems to be a bit allergic to one of those ( she really doesn't need
fillers--all 17 lbs of her!)

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fish for cats

I have always wondered why cats like fish.it's not a natural food for them,
they don't fish...

 

Tuna:

Mindy Bough, veterinary technician for the ASPCA Pet Nutrition and Science
Advisory Service, dishes out the facts on this savory feline fave:

An occasional tuna treat for your cat is generally harmless, says Bough.
However, if a large part of the cat's diet consists of tuna--or if the cat
is fed tuna exclusively--some problems are likely to arise.

Tuna does not contain significant amounts of vitamin E, for example, so too
much of the fish can lead to vitamin E deficiency, resulting in yellow fat
disease, or steatitis. Symptoms include loss of appetite, fever and
hypersensitivity to touch, due to inflammation and necrosis of fat under the
skin. Felines who are fed too much tuna can develop other nutrient
deficiencies, too, because most de-boned fish are lacking in calcium,
sodium, iron, copper and several other vitamins.

Mercury, frequently present in tuna, also presents a potential danger. At
low levels, this may not be a concern, explains Bough, but if tuna is fed
nearly exclusively, it could pose significant problems.

The bottom line? I recommend premium commercial food for domestic cats,
Bough says. These foods are formulated to meet all of a cat's dietary
needs. 

 

 

http://www.provet.co.uk/petfacts/healthtips/rawfish.htm 

Many owners consider fish to be the staple diet of cats - and they believe
that it is beneficial to feed them an exclusively fish ration. 

Fish is a good raw ingredient to incorporate into cat foods, but it has
certain draw backs. Firstly it does not contain all the nutrients that a cat
requires and, like meat, it is deficient in calcium with an inverse
calcium:phosphorus ratio. Coley (or Saithe) a popular fish with cat owners
in the UK and the fillet cut contains 15-20 mg calcium per 100g but over 200
mg phosphorus per 100g, a Ca:P ratio of 1:10. Cod and other white fish are
similar. 

If owners are feeding fish bones should be removed to avoid complications.
Fish should be cooked to avoid the possibility of disease transmission.  

Salmon poisoning has been recorded in cats which contracted the disease
caused by Neorickettsiae spp from eating raw salmon or trout. This disease
occurs within 2 weeks of the ingestion of infected food and causes the
following signs : 

*   Depression 
*   Fever 
*   Lymphadenopathy - swelling of the lymph nodes 
*   Oculonasal discharge 
*   Haematemesis - vomiting blood 
*   Diarrhoea 
*   Death - 90% in untreated cases. 

Diagnosis is confirmed by finding trematode eggs in faeces samples, or
rickettsiae in lymph node samples.

Clinical cases of thiamine deficiency are periodically seen by veterinarians
due to cats being fed  fish - as commercially prepared canned food, or as
raw fish. Thiamin (vitamin B1) is an essential dietary nutrient for cats.
Processing can destroy thiamine in a food, and so reduce the initial
concentrations present at canning, and some fish (including herring and
carp) contain the thiaminase which will destroy thiamine. 

Clinical signs of thiamine deficiency include : 

*   Anorexia 
*   Ataxia - 2-3 days later 
*   Vomiting 
*   Convulsions - short  
*   Dilation of the pupils 
*   Ventroflexion of the neck (Chastek's paralysis) 

Affected patients will die unless treatment is administered (100-250 mg
thiamine IV or SC twice daily). In most cases a complete recovery can be
expected in treated cases unless severe central nervous system has occurred.


Confirmation of diagnosis is not readily available : 

*   Increased plasma pyruvate 
*   Increased plasma lactate 
*   Reduced erythrocyte trans-ketolase activity (a thiamine-dependant
enzyme) 

Some fish are particularly high in oil content, and pansteatitis or yellow
fat disease is caused by the intake of too much fat in the absence of
adequate antioxidant. Red-meat tuna has been reported to be particularly
involved as a cause of this in cats. The cause of the disease is
accumulation of peroxides - the end product of rancidification of fat - in
the cats adipose tissue causing yellow-brown discolouration.

Clinical signs of pansteatitis include :

*   Abdominal Pain 
*   Anorexia 
*   Fever 
*   Lethargy 
*   Hardening of subcutaneous and intra-abdominal fat depots 
*   Occasionally ascites (low in protein content;  

Re: [Felvtalk] ImmunoRegulin

2011-03-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
My Tucson had a couple of episodes of very low white blood count.  She
wouldn't eat (which is a dead giveaway for her!)  vet treated with a series
of immune-regulin injections.  Don't know if it was that or what, but her
wbc jumped right back up.  She's 13 years old, 17 lbs.  Medically, I'm
usually a little quicker to take her to vet if she starts looking or acting
a bit peaked.  She's had some teeth problems, uri,  outside of those wbc
bouts, not much of anything else.  I do give her cosequin  found she moves
around a bit more.  She's a big cat  I don't mind her having a bit of a
paunch but she'd gotten to 18 1/2 lbs  I wanted her weight a tad lower-LOL

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Catalan
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:42 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ImmunoRegulin

Hello All,

I am new to the discussion board.  My cat Mr Gray has just been diagnosed
with FeLV.  He is not symptomatic yet although recently, he was also
diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism.  He is still very active and alert and
eating a lot.

I have been reading that ImmunoRegulin has been quite effective but I want
to know if any one of you out there tried it on their FeLV cats.  Any
response will be appreciated.  Thank you.

--
Sharon F Catalan
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Re: [Felvtalk] ImmunoRegulin

2011-03-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
My vet said it wasn't good as preventive but has had experience with using
it during the episodes of low wbc my Tucson had a few years ago. Can't
remember how many injections he gave her but her wbc went up  that was it.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ImmunoRegulin

Here's a page of lots of info: It seems that the only time to ImmunoRegulin
is BEFORE there are any symptoms!  I don't know of anyone who has used it -
will ask my vet when I see him.  I would love to do more for my two FeLV
boys that are asymptomatic, besides good nutrition and supplements.
http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=ImmunoRegulin 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Catalan
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:42 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ImmunoRegulin

Hello All,

I am new to the discussion board.  My cat Mr Gray has just been diagnosed
with FeLV.  He is not symptomatic yet although recently, he was also
diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism.  He is still very active and alert and
eating a lot.

I have been reading that ImmunoRegulin has been quite effective but I want
to know if any one of you out there tried it on their FeLV cats.  Any
response will be appreciated.  Thank you.

--
Sharon F Catalan
Carpe Diem!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Muffy to CLS...friend of Bandy

2011-03-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
So sorry to hear about Muffy--I know my little dog Jack puts up with a lot
from his cat brothers n sisters  almost never complains-LOL  I'm sure Muffy
will be missed...

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Muffy to CLS...friend of Bandy

Hi,
I would like to add my dog Muffy to CLSher brother and sister Snoopy and
Buffy are there...they were all friends of my FeLV/FIV kitty Bandy...
Muffy passed away on Thursday, March 24, 2011..
Thanks so much
I am not sure how or who  to send this to now...
Please let me know if I need to do or send anything else..
Thanks again.
Kerry  and Angels Bandy, Snoopy, Buffy, Buster, Buddy, Inky, Lil Rascal and
Billy


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(

2011-03-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
Good for you for giving this little one some dignity, love  warmth in her
last moments

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:06 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(

Got a call at 5pm yesterday that someone had seen a kitty in the ATM drive
thru lane at a local bank. I ran up there  didn't see a thing at first. She
was a tiny brown tabby sitting so still in the leaves that I didn't even see
her. She blended right in. She was so cold  wet  could barely make a
sound. I put her in a carrier wrapped in a towel  met some other volunteers
who took her to the emergency vet.
She was so cold her temp didn't even register. She was FeLV positive  had
severe ulcers in her mouth. The vet estimated her to be about 2 years old
though she looked like she was only 3 months old. After some time trying to
raise her temp they determined the best thing was to euthanize her. Her
heart was barely pumping. 
I named her Lola so she would have a name before going over the Rainbow
Bridge.
It is so sad to think how long she may have been there  how many people saw
her  just kept going without a second thought. What a sad story. Even
sadder because I know she is just one of many who meet their end this way.
At least she had a name :(

Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

2011-03-29 Thread Christiane Biagi
So sorry to hear... but please don't feel defeated!  You gave these little
ones the best possible chance  you know that they knew that.  I lost my
Romeo to lymphoma  for him, treatment was not really an option.  It's a
terrible disease--attacks fast with a vengeance.  His last few days were
tough but through it all, he knew that I'd do what was right for him--just
like you did with Rosie.  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

Rosie passed last night, I could not bear to watch her wasting away. The
Lymphoma had beat her. We had her on Pred and Leukeran-which shrank the mass
near her throat the first week, then it came back with a vengeance the next
week. We increased it to every other day on the Leukeran to no avail. She
was also on Lasix, Lysine, iron, b vitamins, Interferon. She always came
into the kitchen and waited for me to give her the meds, but the last few
days she began to clamp her jaw, like enough. She was being syringe fed, she
couldn't eat-the mass in her neck got so large and hard. Her eyes became
empty and she just wanted to hide, she was miserable. When I came home from
work last night, I knew it was time. Thank you to the wonderful vets and
staff at Sacramento Cat Hospital for staying late so we could help Rosie
join her man, Murphy at the bridge-he passed in October from Lymphoma and
anemia. Rosie is our 6th and last FeLV kitty-her 4 brothers passed in their
first year from anemia, despite all  our efforts. I have never felt so
defeated and empty in my life. I did not have a clue about FeLV when we
rescued the feral babies.
It has been a long and sad 2 years, Rosie and Murphy each just made it to 2
1/2 yrs old.
Bless all of you fighting this battle-it is a long, and difficult journey,
but these babies deserve all the love in the world.  Alice with Miso and
Sachi-the 2 negatives we adopted when Rosie got so depressed when she was
left alone after Murphy passed.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

2011-03-28 Thread Christiane Biagi
They can be fussy, can't they! LOL  My brood eats wellness canned but when I
tried wellness dry as supplement, they turned up their noses.  Have a friend
who had a cat that lived to her early 20's--wouldn't eat anything xcept
9-Lives (which is not the worst food in the world).

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

I have found that my cats, even Amber my felv cat does not care for the more
expensive/healthy food. I fed her that at first and after she got past her
starvation mode,(a time when she was grateful for anything to eat), she
would not eat it as well. I switched to the Meow Mix shredded with gravy and
they all love that. I tried feeding my other cats the healthy stuff as
well and they tried to cover it up like it was a bowel movement..LOL. 

Amber will eat cooked chicken but my other cats won't eat anything but cat
food. 

I aree with supplementing their junk food cat food with real meat if you can
get them to eat it. I am feeding Amber the Fancy Feast brand as well, but
it not really a healthy brand... It is not cheap in price though. 

 Jannes 





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:47:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

You may want to supplement what ever food you chose with chicken, ground
beef or tuna.  I've been able to get whole chicken at 69 or 79 cents a pound
near the end of sell by date and recently picked up a couple of hundred cans
of tuna at
39 cents each.  When you figure out the per pound price you are paying a lot
less than cat food and using all of the product.  Before anyone jumps on me,
the tuna is for putting meds in and is usually divided by 6 cats or by 2
cats and a dog.  I would never feed it entirely.

I can feed 7 cats and a dog for 3-4 days with a whole chicken. Same with
hamburger.
On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Katy Doyle wrote:

 And that subject is supposed to be cat food... Typos!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 28, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What kind of food do you feed your cats?
 
 I was feeding the Blue Buffalo and I really liked it, but it is 
getting too expensive because of my furlough days at work.
 
 I'm looking for something affordable but still good for cats that are
FeLV+.
 
 Thanks,
 Katy
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

2011-03-28 Thread Christiane Biagi
Am so sorry to hear this and 64 is anything but old!  Will be thinking good 
thoughts for both of you…

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

 

Hi all,

I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's illness. He has liver 
failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been hospitalized 2 
times this month and once last month he was placed into a skill nursing 
facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to the hospital. 

He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped working. 

Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he wants for 
comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again. 

I want to make myself available at all times for him. 

He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old but it 
isn't really.

Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of this. Hospice 
is available to me 24 hours a day.

 

Sincerely,

Terrie

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

2011-03-28 Thread Christiane Biagi
They aren't thrilled w. Turkey but LOVE that Sardines, Shrimp  Crab.  We
rotate through the different flavors cause we wouldn't want the little
buggers to get bored with their food-LOL.  They finally agreed to all eat
some Blue Buffalo Lite dry but it took a bit of doing.  They're not spoiled
or anything!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

My cats eat canned Wellness but only the salmon and turkey flavor.  Go
figure.
They *Love* Prarie chicken dryed catfood.  It's pretty good
nutrition-wise.  And no, it's not made out of 'prarie chickens'...
~Bonnie
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From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof


 They can be fussy, can't they! LOL  My brood eats wellness canned but 
 when I tried wellness dry as supplement, they turned up their noses.  
 Have a friend who had a cat that lived to her early 20's--wouldn't eat 
 anything xcept 9-Lives (which is not the worst food in the world).

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes 
 Taylor
 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:41 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

 I have found that my cats, even Amber my felv cat does not care for 
 the more expensive/healthy food. I fed her that at first and after 
 she got past her starvation mode,(a time when she was grateful for 
 anything to eat), she would not eat it as well. I switched to the Meow 
 Mix shredded with gravy and they all love that. I tried feeding my 
 other cats the healthy stuff as well and they tried to cover it up 
 like it was a bowel movement..LOL.

 Amber will eat cooked chicken but my other cats won't eat anything but 
 cat food.

 I aree with supplementing their junk food cat food with real meat if 
 you can get them to eat it. I am feeding Amber the Fancy Feast brand 
 as well, but it not really a healthy brand... It is not cheap in 
 price though.

 Jannes




 
 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:47:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof

 You may want to supplement what ever food you chose with chicken, 
 ground beef or tuna. I've been able to get whole chicken at 69 or 79 
 cents a pound near the end of sell by date and recently picked up a 
 couple of hundred cans of tuna at
 39 cents each. When you figure out the per pound price you are paying 
 a lot less than cat food and using all of the product. Before anyone 
 jumps on me, the tuna is for putting meds in and is usually divided by 
 6 cats or by 2 cats and a dog. I would never feed it entirely.

 I can feed 7 cats and a dog for 3-4 days with a whole chicken. Same 
 with hamburger.
 On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Katy Doyle wrote:

 And that subject is supposed to be cat food... Typos!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 28, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What kind of food do you feed your cats?

 I was feeding the Blue Buffalo and I really liked it, but it is 
getting too expensive because of my furlough days at work.

 I'm looking for something affordable but still good for cats that 
 are
 FeLV+.

 Thanks,
 Katy

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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Christiane Biagi
This is not an easy call.  Growing up, we always had stray cats who found us
 all were indoor/outdoor.  Of course, it was way different then  my mother
always made sure they came in at night.  They all went to the vet to be s/n
 then not again until they became ill towards the end of their lives.  We
had 3 generations  all lived to their early 20's.  But we also fed whoever
showed up  some would ultimately come in and out.  One of those was
poisoned by a neighbor  another was killed by a car.  

My own cats are all indoor--I live on the 6th floor of an apt building-LOL.
All came in as strays of different ages.  Interestingly enough, the one who
never had any interest in what was going on outside (didn't sit on window,
didn't run for front door, didn't try to sneak out on balcony), was the late
great Romeo.  He was around 3 or 4 when I brought him in  he always seemed
to have the attitude been there, done that!.  

I don't know that I wouldn't let them out if I lived in a very rural area...
but I know about the predators out there so I suspect  I'd probably ruin it
for them by hovering-LOL

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

Our shelter has an indoor only policy. The cat can go out if you have it
with you on a leash or if it is in an enclosed patio which it cannot get out
of  you are present at all times. Otherwise we will remove the cat from the
home.
There are about 4 cats in my neighborhood who have been killed by
irresponsible people letting their dogs loose. Not to mention the ones which
have gotten run over.

Beth
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--- On Wed, 3/23/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 12:04 PM

You are 100% correct in saying:  Sorry but I 100% DISAGREE with cats are
wild animals and need to live outside point of view. Cats were indeed wild
at one time; but since they have been domesticated for a few thousand years
and allowed to over breed, causing many to revert to being feral, we are
obligated to do as much as we can (and I can see that 100% of people in this
group are doing so) to rectify all the misdoings of mankind.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Just because your kid likes to eat McDonald's every day or binge drink or do
drugs because it makes them happy is NOT a reason to allow it.  The same
reasoning goes for cats, just because they LIKE it doesn't mean it's good
for them.  My cats may be prisoners in my house but I sleep well at night
knowing they are loved and safe and from what I can tell, they are pretty
freakin happy.  I have picked up enough broken and battered bodies off the
roadways to know that NONE of my cats or fosters will EVER be allowed
outside unless it is in a safe enclosure or on a leash.  

There was a young individual (can't call him a man because real men do not
torture animals) in Dallas that took his neighbor's inside/outside cat and
over a course of several hours beat and tortured the cat and video taped the
entire thing.  THAT is what happens to outdoor cats.  While some may be
lucky enough to escape being tortured, hit by cars, eaten by coyotes or
hawks or owls, most do not escape this fate.
 
Sorry but I 100% DISAGREE with cats are wild animals and need to live
outside point of view.
 
Just my 2 cents.
 
Edna
 
 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:13:09 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
 
 As an adopter, my views on this are very strict and well-defined - I 
 am responsible for placing cats in the safest possible homes, and I 
 would do
no
 less. I need to be able to sleep at night, knowing that the cats that 
 I rescued and invested so much time, energy, and emotion will be safe 
 and happy for a long time.
 Yes, I agree, there still are a few safe area left, but not many and 
 none are 100% safe, ever. It is true that times used to be safer for 
 cats to be outdoors - ours always had been, especially when I was 
 growing up, until
one
 of our kittens was killed by a carUnfortunately, it takes many 
 people
to
 understand this only after a tragedy occurs. When an adopter tells me 
 that their cat ALWAYS sat on the front porch, and never leftand 
 they intend to do the same with a new adopted cat, I say NO! Their old 
 cat may have indeed done that, but it doesn't mean that a new cat will 
 do it: It takes ONLY ONE TIME - chasing a squirrel or bird across the
street, and WHAM!
 Cats can 

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please

2011-03-23 Thread Christiane Biagi
Thinking good thoughts for Studs but is anybody following up on this
so-called transporter?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please


OMG, can someone PLEASE go hit that woman in the head with a tack hammer?
Studs is in my thoughts and prayers.  I think this goes without saying but
are you putting the transporter on a DO NOT USE list?
 
Please let us know how Studs is doing.

Edna
 
 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:23:13 -0700
 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please
 
 I was supposed to have a new FeLV kitty Studs aka Stud Muffin last
night, but the lady who was transporting him left him in a carrier in her
carport with no food or water all day. I live in Atlanta  it has been hot.
He had to be treated for severe dehydration  is currently at the vet. They
also discovered he had a severe heart murmur, so they are going to check to
see if that can me managed with meds or if it is too late. He is apparently
a total love bug. My favorite kind of cat - big black short haired cat with
green eyes. 
 
 Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Christiane Biagi
Actually, the leading killers are glass windows...particularly taller 
structures .car winfshields. But cats are the only bird predators in urban 
aareas, so they of course would be the largest killer of birds. There are other 
natural predators in rural areas...including other birds like owls, hawks, etc

Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

In the newspaper today:

House cats are the #1 predator of wild birds.  The American Bird Conservancy 
estimates up to 500 million birds per year are killed by cats.  About 400,000 
are killed yearly by wind turbines (less than 20% of the number killed by 
cats).  So now we have another reason to keep our cats indoors -- not only for 
their own health and safety, but for that of our BIRD population!
Save the cats and the birds: Keep Your Cat Indoors!
~Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Airline Health Certificate

2011-03-21 Thread Christiane Biagi
If ure flying animal by cargo. U need hc. I get one even tho cat is always in 
cabin w me. Never had prob w my vet giving me hc for felv pos cat.

Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't see why not. If you are flying within the US you do not usually have 
to have a health certificate. Are you flying kitty by commercial air?
Tanya

--- On Mon, 3/21/11, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote:

 From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Airline Health Certificate
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:40 AM
 Would a FeLV positive cat showing no
 signs of illness be able to get a health certificate to
 travel by air?  My current vet seems to think it wouldn't
 be a problem.  However, she is leaving and I am worried it
 could be a problem!
 
 Thanks for your input.
 Melinda, Fuji, VooDoo
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Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?

2011-03-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
I got my Tucson as a kitten--had her tested at around 2 months  she was
neg.  4 1/2 years later she was feeling poorly  a very sharp vet redid test
after her blood work showed lower than normal white blood count.  And sure
enough she tested positive (on Snap  IFA).  She had never been outside
since the first date we rescued out of a wall in an apt, had never been sick
 is still around, little 17 lb porker that she is.  Did a lot research
since then  talked to several vets  basically, test is good but not
foolproof  virus may hide for a long time...  One vet told me the closest
you could come to really verifying test would be to do a retest at 1
year..not a viable option.

But for me, the most significant comment I ever received was the person who
pointed out that FELV is an ANCIENT virus  probably around since dinosaurs.
If it were anywhere near as lethal  contagious as we've been led to
believe, we would have no domestic cats left.  Bottom line, between the
testing issues  my own experiences with my 2 FELV+ cats, my guess is that
there are a whole lot of cats out there living quite normal lives who are
pos but nobody knows it.  Remember, these cats don't die from the virus but
rather from certain cancers or URIs or UTIs or any sort of infection.  How
can we ever know whether the cats we all had as kids (when nobody ever went
to the vet-LOL) who died from some illness weren't positive?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?


My reply to this got bounced because it was too big a file but I want to say
it again just in case it doesn't get posted to the list.  I think it's
important for foster parents to know that one combo test cannot be trusted.
I have had every cat or kitten that came into my house combo tested before I
ever exposed them to the rest of the cats.  From the first cat I ever took
in to the very last.  They all showed negative for FeLV before I took them.
Even the kitty that died was negative on her first combo test that was done
almost two years ago.  It's kind of scary to know that.  You could take in a
FeLV positive kitty that tested negative on her first test and not even know
it.
 
We have that statement in our adoption contract that not all diseases will
show at the time of the first test so we cannot 100% guarantee the health of
each cat.  But it's so easy to assume that if they tested negative once then
it's true.  I learned my lesson.


 
 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:43:23 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
 
 The moral of the story is that all cats coming into a home or foster 
 home where there are other cats, must be combo tested! It's not a huge 
 expense in the big scheme of things, but necessary!
 That's how I always feel - if a good home cannot be found, the cats 
 stays hereand sometimes, a really good adopter who doesn't 
 necessarily want a kitten comes along and wants an older cat! It's so 
 much harder parting with a cat that has been here for a while than 
 parting with kittens. I have also learned a hard lesson to never 
 separate two cats that are really good friends!
 Good luck with finding a good home!
 Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
 Olvey
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:59 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] How long can FeLV stay dormant?
 
 
 I think you're right. I couldn't adopt out to a person without telling 
 them everything. It's not right to do that and I would feel so guilty. 
 Then it's their decision as to whether they want him or not. The kitty 
 did test negative yesterday so there's hope he won't or doesn't have 
 it but time will tell. Yeah, I think I'll just try to find him a home 
 as the only cat. If I can't find him a home, he can stay with me. I've 
 already decided to keep most of my fosters since I found out so what's one
more as they say!
 
 Thanks for your input. You kind of confirmed what I had been thinking. 
 I just wanted to hear it from someone else.
 
 I wish I had known the kitty that had it was positive before she died. 
 She didn't show any symtoms until the day before she died. Her 
 breathing was kind of shallow and rapid so I took her to the vet and 
 they found that she was bleeding in her chest and she died while we 
 were talking about it. They did the necropsy and saw the huge tumor in 
 her chest and the vet said it ruptured a vein or something around her 
 heart. The vet was curious about it because the kitty was not yet two 
 years old so she did a combo test and it came out with a strong 
 positive for FeLV. If I had known I wouldn't have ever taken in any 
 

Re: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine

2011-03-12 Thread Christiane Biagi
Thinking good thoughts for her

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:19 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine

Just fyi, for those who know MaryChristine  - she had heart bypass surgery
on Monday, over yonder in New York State.  The update from a friend of hers
says that she's out of intensive care, now in a regular room, and doing
well.

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

2011-02-21 Thread Christiane Biagi
Try Operation Roger--long distance truckers.  Have worked w. them twice 
they're great!
http://operationroger.rescuegroups.org/ 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

Hi Michael,

The problem is that Google maps says it is 1,796 miles and probably at least
1,000 of that is before they get to Nevada.  That's why I was looking for
someone experienced in setting up transports, which I am not.  I have
someone to drive the first out of what, 18-30ish legs?  I haven't heard from
the adopter since all the excitement of getting them rescued from the
shelter (literally HOURS before death) so she may have found another option.
 Pilots and Paws is good for short trips (300 miles or so) and we have a
wonderful paid transport company in Austin (they went and got 2 of our cats
after the adopters had a baby and decided the baby was allergic - in New
York State). They are not cheap but do sometimes offer cheaper rates for
rescue if they are going that way anyway.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Second Chance Meows 
secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote:

 you can contact the Nevada humane society at 775-856-2000 and ask for 
 the help desk  they can contact volunteers that might help in Nevada 
 and close in to the state

  Michael Johnson
 Founder/Owner
 Second Chance Meows
 A FeLV Sanctuary


 From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

 MIchael,

 We have 3 kittens needing to go from Austin to Reno.  We have someone 
 to drive the first leg.  What we need is someone to help us coordinate 
 the rest of the legs and possibly teach me in the process.

 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Second Chance Meows  
 secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote:

  what can i help you with?
 
   Michael Johnson
  Founder/Owner
  Second Chance Meows
  A FeLV Sanctuary
 
 
  From: Jenine jenmarac...@gbis.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?
 
  Michael,
 
  They will be coming here to Reno.  Have been meaning to contact 
  you anyway, so this may be the right time.  Feel free to email me.
  jenmarac...@gbis.com
 
  Jenine
 
 
 
  On 2/18/2011 5:31 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote:
   where in Nevada do they need to go?
  
 Michael Johnson
   Founder/Owner
   Second Chance Meows
   A FeLV Sanctuary
  
  
   From: Kelley Saveikamoonv...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalkFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Cc:
   Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:19 PM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?
  
   We have the 3 FELV+ kittens here (Austin) needing to go to Nevada 
   with
 as
   little stress as possible.  I have no experience at all in this 
   area; however, we do have a person willing to drive the first leg.  
   Anyone experienced with transport who can help?
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] anyone used a pet transport service?

2011-01-21 Thread Christiane Biagi
Have worked w. both Operation Roger  Pilot n Paws to transport dogs  they
are great!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone used a pet transport service?

just wondering if anyone has experiences with these services out
therePet Airways doesn't have alot of hubs yet - but pet transport vans
like Paws n Claws - what are your thoughts?  any recommedations?


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Blood in Tweezers stool

2010-12-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
My Romeo would get that occasionally.  Because he was pos, I really worried
the first time.  Rushed him to vet (no easy trick-LOL)  it turned out that
it was just a bit of bleeding from being constipated and straining so hard.
Romeo would get constipated pretty quickly so I always made sure to give him
xtra water in his food, etc.  This was early on after I brought him in from
outside  he was still pretty easily spooked  would hold off on staying in
litter box if he heard a noise, saw a bright light, etc.  

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank  Sue Koren
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Blood in Tweezers stool

My 4 year old FeLV+ kitty, Tweezer has always had some digestive problems.
Nothing more then gas and a rumbly tummy though.  This morning he had a
runny stool with blood in it and it seemed painful for him to go.  Is this
still another thing that positive cats deal with?  Tweezer was just at the
vets a couple of weeks ago for a check up.  The vet said he looks healthy
and the CBC came back normal. When their office opens today I will be
calling but I wanted to ask the people on this list because you are the ones
that know the troubles of FeLV+ cats.   Any advice?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Christiane Biagi
My 3 neg cat have lived with Tucson, my pos cat, for most their lives and
she is 12 1/2 years old.  I also had another pos cat, Romeo, who I brought
in 2004 (adult cat)  until his death last year, they all lived together.
They share dishes, boxes, groom each other, occasionally nip each other,
sleep together and none of my neg have ever turned positive.  I personally
think that FELV is not as contagious as some folks make it out to be.   

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie (Merkel)
Sherry
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My husband and I
recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard
and on our porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative
cats for six weeks now and love her dearly.

At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two
different snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. 
Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active,
growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For
now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats.

One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her
with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did tell me that the
vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats.  Right now, I
do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my
FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. 
However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their
experience has been.  The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I
usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later
this week.

Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living
in our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up
for us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle with what is
fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is
limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly
time with her owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still
vaccinate our other cats as a precaution?

Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Stephanie


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Christiane Biagi
Got my Tucson as a 6 week old kitten in 5/98 and she's still here, a chunky
17 lbs!  Brought my Romeo in 2/04 (stray I was feeding)  he was estimated
to be 4-5 at the time.  He died from lymphoma  last fall  was never sick
until the last 2 weeks of his life.  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does anyone
else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell me.  I
want to have hope.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats


I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none
of them ever became positive.  He was 5 months old when I found him

and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey

was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and
exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after
I discovered that.  He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they
were all vaccinated.  They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had
spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood
drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those
10 years.

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