Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(

2009-10-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, I am so sorry...we share your pain.  Godspeed, little Mystique!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:33:12 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(
 
 My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge 
 yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest 
 personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her she 
 is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom will be 
 there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be sick any 
 longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I guess she is 
 the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms.
 Sherry
  
  
 
 
  
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2008 AAFP Feline Retrovirus Management

2009-10-22 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thanks, MCI sent a copy to my vet (the one that told me I couldn't have my 
stray back because he would infect all of the neighborhoodshe euthanized 
him)...grr..

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 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:09:06 -0400
 To: FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org; felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; 
 purring...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] 2008 AAFP Feline Retrovirus Management
 
 for those who haven't seen it--or to play out for your vet!
 
 http://www.catvets.com/professionals/guidelines/publications/index.aspx?ID=323
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2008 AAFP Feline Retrovirus Management

2009-10-22 Thread Debbie Harrison

Gary, this was years ago...my very first experience with FeLVand I didn't 
know any betterobviously, neither did she at the time.  Thomas' euthanasia 
has been my driving force to educate people since that time.  I have learned so 
much from you all here, and I am so very grateful. I mourn his death 
stilland pray that he forgives my (and my vet's) ignorance.  He was a 
beautiful, sweet (not to mention completely asymptomatic) boy...and he deserved 
much better.

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 From: gcru...@centurytel.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:25:30 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2008 AAFP Feline Retrovirus Management
 
 Since what the cat had is NOT a public health issue, the vet had absolutely
 no business refusing (she could recommend) to give you the cat back. What
 she did was to steal your cat and murder it. What would you have done if it
 were a pet? Did she charge you for euthanizing the cat? I would have, at
 the least, filed a formal complaint with the state veterinary licensing
 board. Actually, I don't know of any vet big enough to not give me a cat
 back, but that's just me.
 
 Gary
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison
 Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:20 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2008 AAFP Feline Retrovirus Management
 
 
 Thanks, MCI sent a copy to my vet (the one that told me I couldn't have
 my stray back because he would infect all of the neighborhoodshe
 euthanized him)...grr..
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
  From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:09:06 -0400
  To: FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org; felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com;
 purring...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Felvtalk] 2008 AAFP Feline Retrovirus Management
  
  for those who haven't seen it--or to play out for your vet!
  
 
 http://www.catvets.com/professionals/guidelines/publications/index.aspx?ID=3
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-06 Thread Debbie Harrison

Yes, it's true...but now I have the knowledge to jump in their face about it, 
MCand you can believe I will!  My anger and guilt at having put a 
completely asymptomatic cat down because of my vet's (and yes, my own) 
ignorance still burns brightly to this day...he was such a perfect, beautiful 
boyand he deserved better

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 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:47:15 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
 
 the problem is that way too many still DO! but you know that.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Vote for Gizmo

2009-10-06 Thread Debbie Harrison

Giz is adorablehow could someone just five him up?  I don't understand 
humans...

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 From: ti...@mindspring.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:58:02 -0400
 Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Vote for Gizmo
 
 I know this is OT-doesn't even involve a kitty! But I personally pulled
 this little guy from a shelter I volunteer for (remotely) when I was down
 there in February and he's now in a home of a fellow volunteer. I usually
 bring up a kitty but this guy was on his last legs and I knew if we didn't
 get him out, he'd die. He's such a special little guy and has come so very
 far, entered him in the Cutest Dog contest. Please consider voting for him.
 You can vote once a day- we'd love to see him win this week's contest.
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 Say hello to Gizmo! Who would think that adorable little guy was found
 abandoned on the streets of St. Bernard Parish, LA; matted, dirty, hungry
 and so scared? But Gizmo's a spunky little guy and with lots of TLC from
 his new family, his royal Pekingese personality and looks finally blossomed.
 We think he's just so cute that we entered him in the Cutest Dog Contest.
 Please take a look at our Gizmo-one look and you'll just have to vote for
 him!
 
 
 
 http://www.cutestdogcompetition.com/vote.cfm?h=C5E0EB481C260B956BCA57871AB7B
 728
 
 
 
 Christiane Biagi
 
 Cell: 914-720-6888
 
 ti...@mindspring.com 
 
 Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Vote for Gizmo

2009-10-06 Thread Debbie Harrison

Well, it's just so nice to hear a happy ending now and then...thanks for 
rescuing him!

Debbie (COL)
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 From: ti...@mindspring.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:17:27 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Vote for Gizmo
 
 Hard to know how he ended up on the street. We looked long and hard for his
 family. This is one of the hardest hit Katrina areas and animals are dumped
 there from everywhere. And folks still struggle daily with just making
 it... But Gizmo is truly a joy... When I flew up with him, he was still
 very much a mess but in the airport, he just loved riding in the basket of
 one of those luggage carts and watching everybody just ooh and ahh over him!
 LOL
 
 Christiane Biagi
 Cell: 914-720-6888
 ti...@mindspring.com 
 Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:10 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Vote for Gizmo
 
 
 Giz is adorablehow could someone just five him up? I don't understand
 humans...
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
  From: ti...@mindspring.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:58:02 -0400
  Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Vote for Gizmo
  
  I know this is OT-doesn't even involve a kitty! But I personally pulled
  this little guy from a shelter I volunteer for (remotely) when I was down
  there in February and he's now in a home of a fellow volunteer. I usually
  bring up a kitty but this guy was on his last legs and I knew if we didn't
  get him out, he'd die. He's such a special little guy and has come so very
  far, entered him in the Cutest Dog contest. Please consider voting for
 him.
  You can vote once a day- we'd love to see him win this week's contest.
  Thank you.
  
  
  
  Say hello to Gizmo! Who would think that adorable little guy was found
  abandoned on the streets of St. Bernard Parish, LA; matted, dirty, hungry
  and so scared? But Gizmo's a spunky little guy and with lots of TLC from
  his new family, his royal Pekingese personality and looks finally
 blossomed.
  We think he's just so cute that we entered him in the Cutest Dog
 Contest.
  Please take a look at our Gizmo-one look and you'll just have to vote for
  him!
  
  
  
 
 http://www.cutestdogcompetition.com/vote.cfm?h=C5E0EB481C260B956BCA57871AB7B
  728
  
  
  
  Christiane Biagi
  
  Cell: 914-720-6888
  
  ti...@mindspring.com 
  
  Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-06 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thanks, MChe has made me a champion for the FeLV/FIV cause, that's for 
sure...thanks for the kind words.

Debbie (COL)
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 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:19:13 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
 
 { COL } -- part of his job in this world was to teach you that hard,
 hard lesson. you only fail him if you forget the lesson and don't share
 it with others.
 
 yur pal, MC
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread Debbie Harrison

Ten years ago that's what the vet would have told you...I know, because they 
did!

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 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:18:25 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
 
 amazing how things change when you learn the facts, isn't it? sometimes it
 amazes me to realize that even less than ten years ago i actually thought
 that a positive outdoor kitty breathing through a screen door at the
 housecats could infect them.
 
 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
  I agree - didn't used to, but after living with FELV and FIV and normal
  cats for several years, I really think that's a better approach.
 
  Gloria
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV testing

2009-10-02 Thread Debbie Harrison

Lorrie, I had that very same experience a few years agoand I still feel 
guilt to this very dayat least I know I am not alone.   Never again!  

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 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:03:39 -0400
 From: felineres...@kvinet.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV testing
 
 I'm with you on that one Ignorance is bliss. I still feel
 guilty over a cat I PTS years ago, just because I tested him and he
 was FelV pos. This was what was recommended then, but I'd have never
 known he was positive otherwise. I had 4 other cats at the time and
 he'd been with them for years, and none of them were pos. They also
 hadn't gotten FelV vaccinations, so I really don't think it's as
 contagious as they say. Now I'd NEVER put a positive cat down unless
 it was extremely ill or dying.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 10-01, MaryChristine wrote:
  
  sometimes i wonder, too, about why we bother testing: as chris says,
  ignorance is bliss
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] TNR Feral Colonies

2009-09-30 Thread Debbie Harrison

I do TNR also...and I have to agree with Sharyl...this money is coming out of 
my own pockets...I cannot afford to spay/neuter/vaccinate...but I do.  These 
cats will be returned to their colony as long as their health is good...I wish 
I could afford every test and every preventative vaccine, but I am doing the 
best I can with what I earn.  I haven't had any kittens to worry about in the 
past two years, so I feel fortunate.

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 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:57:28 -0700
 From: cline...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR Feral Colonies
 
 Not sure how all TNR individuals or groups handle the situation of FIV and/or 
 FeLV+ colony members. I'm on the Feral Cat group. Most TNR is done by 
 individuals or small groups. 
 
 TNR = Trap, Neuter, Release
 
 Since the plan is to release the cat back to its original colony/location, 
 very few folks test for FIV or FeLV. To be frank they can't afford the test 
 and the results would not change the outcome. 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Administrative List

2009-09-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

I canfor what it's worth.

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From: ter...@tazzys.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:23:08 -0700
CC: phaed...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Administrative List


Hello,
Can anyone read this?
 
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Sultan, WA. 98294
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501(c)3 Non-Profit national rescue.
All donations are tax deductible.
http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/
 
Copyright © 2007-2009 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. 
 
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball

2009-08-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

LOLI guess I haven't been doing it long enough, then!

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 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:19:16 -0700
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
 
 Yes it does, it  gets much easier.  I always tell people that if you foster 
 long enough you'll reach the point where you cry when they DON'T leave.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
 
 
 Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the 
 right thing for them.
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo
 
 
 
  Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700
  From: rcpin...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball
  
  HELLO EVERYONE,
   
  I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR 
  HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
   
  I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is 
  getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. 
  Michael will post pictures soon.
   
  Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life 
  and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. 
   
  I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is 
  also sad.  I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. 
  It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is 
  the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. 
   
  Reyna
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary

2009-08-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

My thoughts exactly.

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 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:34:14 -0700
 From: secondchanceme...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV 
 cats and get very scared... $7500??? for the life and i feel bad asking $500 
 for the lifetime and all we take are FeLV's.. who are these people and where 
 do they get off asking that much???
 
 Michael Johnson
 Founder/Owner
 Second Chance Meows
 A FeLV Sanctuary
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 Hmmm. Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site. And only one 
 of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs. 
 
 This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place. You 
 have to be committed to finding homes for the cats. They need human families, 
 attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting. And if 
 you're not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to 
 avoid becoming overwhelmed.
 
 
 
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 Never heard of them. 
 
 According to their website they've only been around since 2005. Lots-of-cats 
 in a rural setting always makes me nervous. And, whoa! They want a $5000 
 surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat. I 
 guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a 
 Sanctuary
 
 http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/
 
 has anyone ever heard of these folks before?
 
 i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history
 in the FIV/FeLV community.
 
 MC
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno

2009-08-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

What wonderful news!

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 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:57:32 -0700
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
 
 Just wanted to update everyone.  Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has 
 made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada.  Just got a voicemail from 
 Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you 
 would think he had always lived there.  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball

2009-08-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right 
thing for them.

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 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700
 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball
 
 HELLO EVERYONE,
  
 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR 
 HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
  
 I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is 
 getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. 
 Michael will post pictures soon.
  
 Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life 
 and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. 
  
 I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is 
 also sad.  I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. 
 It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is 
 the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE Re: Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!

2009-08-14 Thread Debbie Harrison

Hooray!  One success story at a time.what a happy ending!

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 From: katn...@charter.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:22:44 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE Re: Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need 
 your help. Please read my story...Thanks!
 
 I see you have made your goal + an extra $10. Congratulations. Best to 
 Snowball!!!
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:26 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] UPDATE Re: Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+,and I need your 
 help. Please read my story...Thanks!
 
 
 http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-08-03.8415646672
 
 UPDATE: We're going to make this work. We need $80 to meet the revised 
 goal. (If we do not meet the goal, all the pledges are forfeited. And we're 
 past the 5 day window when the goal can be lowered.)
 
 Second Chance Meow has agreed to take Snowball if we can meet the revised 
 goal ($330, 10% of which goes to fundable as their fee.)
 
 I'll cover transport costs myself. Transport has been arranged to get 
 Snowball from Los Angeles to Reno. I will also make arrangements to have 
 him dewormed, treated for fleas and given his FVRCP vaccine en route. 
 (Second Chance Meow will still need to get him neutered.)
 
 Please, please, please cross-post this. We are so very close to target. We 
 have transport. And this has to work to get Snowball off the streets and 
 into a home.
 
 
 --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  From: Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. 
  Please read my story...Thanks!
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 9:04 AM
 
  Hello Everyone,
 
  My name is Snowball and I have been given the opportunity
  to be part of a wonderful family and live with other cats
  like me. I can't wait to be in my new home and receive
  and give lots of love.
 
  If Reyna had not rescued me I would have died. When she
  found me I was severely anemic. I could hardly walk and
  open my eyes. I was very sick. After an emergency
  transfusion and 3 days at the hospital I'm doing much better
  now. My appetite and energy are back. I love to play... my
  squeaky mouse is my favorite toy!
 
  She, however, cannot keep me because her family suffers
  from asthma. Also, she is a college student and does not
  have the money to properly care for me. This is why I need
  your help to get to Second Chance Meow (a home based
  sanctuary in Reno, Nevada).
 
  We all know that cats like me are hard to place in homes
  and usually end up in sanctuaries or shelters. I'm happy to
  be going to a loving and caring home where the people there
  know about this disease and can properly care for me. The
  fundraiser that was set up for me will end in 6 days. We
  still need more donations to make my dream of having a
  family of my own possible. Please help me! You will not
  regret it because you will have made this blue eyed
  cat very happy. : )
 
  Meow,
  Snowball
 
  Fundraiser:
  http://www.fundable .com/groupaction s/groupaction.
  2009-08-03. 8415646672
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09

2009-08-13 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sharyl, I am so sorry for your loss...bless you for giving her the best year of 
her life

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 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:42:03 -0700
 From: cline...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09
 
 I had to make that last vet trip with my dear sweet Mattie today. She lost 
 the use of her back legs last week due to neurological issues from the FeLV. 
 The paralysis spread and she had lost bladder and bowel control. She was 
 still eating and grooming herself but I couldn't wait until she was 
 suffering. She deserved better than that. She fell asleep in my arms from the 
 sedative and never felt the 2nd shot.
 
 Even though blind since birth she was the most inquisitive kitten I've ever 
 had. No challenge was too great for her. She is the last of a litter of 4 
 positive babies I rescued last summer. What amazes me is that their mom and 3 
 aunts, all positives and now spayed, are still doing fine. 
 
 All I can say is Mattie had a wonderful 12 months wanting for nothing and 
 teaching me so much. I learned not to let a handicap limit me. It sure didn't 
 limit her love of life. She is now at the Rainbow Bridge with Bright Eyes, 
 Houdini, and CJ.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties

2009-07-29 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thanks for the info, Gary...most of mine are 8+...I know that isn't considered 
geriatric, but it's never too early to learn!

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 From: gcru...@centurytel.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:11:26 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties
 
 There is a Yahoo group called geriatric-cats.
 
 Gary
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Helene R. Hand
 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:13 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties
 
 Hi, You'all,
 
 
 Is there a website like ours with member participation for routine (healthy)
 geriatric cat care.this is for a friend of mine.who really needs some
 good advice about her aging cat Sneakers
 
 Helene
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Venting

2009-06-24 Thread Debbie Harrison

I share your frustration...I spent more than $1,000 of my own money last year 
trapping all of the neighborhood cats and having them desexedeven a few 
who's owners couldn't be bothered to do the right thing.  I still have a few of 
the boys to do, but for now (at least) none of the females are fertile...and I 
will continue as quickly as possible to do the fellasit's tough, though, 
because my employment is kind of iffybut I have to stay focused and do what 
I can...and that's all I can do.  I am fostering a momma (barely more than a 
kitten herself) that was part of a group of 25 cats dumped behind a library 
when their owner was evicted from her house...and of course none were 
spayed/neutered.  I lost one of the babies within the first 24 hours...and I am 
amazed that this emaciated little mother is doing so well with the other three. 
 I get so frustrated and angry that I cannot sleep at nightI don't know how 
you deal with such ignorance and stupidity on a daily basis
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 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:09:14 -0700
 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Venting
 
 I want to vent, too! I've had a bad, bad day!
 I work at a county shelter and we have just about had it with people. A woman 
 called today and told me that she was getting ready to call Channel 2 news 
 about us, because we were so very rude. Why was she ticked off? Because she 
 surrendered her dog 2 weeks ago - she and her husband couldn't tolerate the 
 dog's destructive behavior - and we were not doing enough to get her dog 
 adopted. U..you weren't willing to spend any time and effort 
 whatsoever on your dog, so why would anyone else? They decided to just 
 reclaim the dog today, since they didn't want her to be euthanized. My 
 colleague who handled the reclaim very nicely questioned the husband about 
 his plans for the dog. Would they work with her, train her, try to find her 
 another home? After all, we didn't want the dog to be reclaimed only to be 
 dumped on us again. Not exactly fair to the dog, is it? The husband said he 
 was ready to start cursing out my coworker, and apparently a nasty
 email is in the works. And someone else dumped his dog because she had a hot 
 spot, and he didn't want to pay a vet, and when we told him that we had a 
 low-cost vet we could refer him to, the excuse was, She's too wild around 
 the kids. We try to help them, and they counter with another BS excuse. I'm 
 sick of it!
 And you guys will love this one. Last week a woman surrendered 5 kittens. It 
 seems that THREE of her cats had litters of 7 at the same time, and she needs 
 to round up all the kittens and bring them to us, because, of course, they 
 all roam around outside! She then proceeded to blame the neighborhood tomcats 
 for knocking up her females, when naturally it's her irresponsibility that 
 got her into this mess. They are planning to bring us nearly 30 cats in all. 
 We had to euthanize FIFTY cats and kittens last week, and just as many this 
 week, and STILL people refuse to spay/neuter or keep their animals confined 
 when they're in heat.
 This has to stop. It just has to stop.
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Tiffany, blind DUMPED cat, needs your help!

2009-06-18 Thread Debbie Harrison

Kelly, blind animals can and do lead happy lives.  I saved the chipin link, and 
will donate on Friday.

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 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:26:07 -0500
 From: moonv...@gmail.com
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] OT- Tiffany, blind DUMPED cat, needs your help!
 
 Tiffany is an approximately 15-16 year old DUMPED cat with untreated high
 blood pressure which has caused her to become blind. She will need to be on
 blood pressure meds for life; they are calculating the dosage now. Please
 help us if you can. We have spent $178 on her already exclusive of the meds
 she will need to be on for life. We expect she was dumped because her
 owners did not want to pay to fix what was wrong.
 http://rescuties.chipin.com/tiffany-the-blind-cat
 
 -- 
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
 
 http://www.rescuties.org
 
 Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
 
 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
 
 Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
 http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
 
 Help us spay some kitties!
 
 http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals
 
 Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first
 as long as you leave me alone.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-06-18 Thread Debbie Harrison

Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must 
purchase it from a vet.

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 From: maima...@duo-county.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a 
 few months since I checked).
 On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:
 
  I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can.
 
  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  how much is it at petsmart?
 
  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Great idea to keep A/D on hand
 
 
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  http://www.rescuties.org
 
  Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
 
  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
 
  http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
 
  Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
  http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
 
  Help us spay some kitties!
 
  http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals
 
  Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take 
  them first
  as long as you leave me alone.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-06-18 Thread Debbie Harrison

I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet

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 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400
 From: sue.san...@ssa.gov
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what
 would I ask for?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Susan 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to
 syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a
 good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff
 that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks'
 homes.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-06-18 Thread Debbie Harrison

No,no,no...Banfield is the animal hospital attached to PetsmartIt's Hill's 
Science Diet a/d...that's it.

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 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:53:19 -0400
 From: sue.san...@ssa.gov
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Susan 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie
 Harrison
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 
 I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
 
 
 
  Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400
  From: sue.san...@ssa.gov
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
  
  What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what 
  would I ask for?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Susan
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
  MaryChristine
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
  
  the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to 
  syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a
 
  good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable 
  stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most
 folks'
  homes.
  
  so much for my humility.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about a new kitty

2009-06-18 Thread Debbie Harrison

Taming a feral kitten takes time and tons of patience...trust me, it's what I 
do!  Try visiting the feral cat site online...they have tons of helpful 
information.  And yes, he could possibly already have been exposed to the 
virus...but that is not necessarily a death sentence.

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 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:02 -0400
 From: expressprin...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about a new kitty
 
 Hi Folks:
 
 You all were such a big help to me last summer when we rescued a little cat 
 who was diagnosed with feline leukemia. Sadly, we lost little Smokey but?my 
 husband?is now in the process of trying to tame and catch?a wild little 
 kitten that is on?his job. He's?eating the?food he gives him?but he will not 
 let him touch him. Any suggestions? Also, what is the chance that an 
 abandoned kitten has feline leukemia? Does it help to catch the decease early?
 
 Thank you for your help,
 Kathryn
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:52 am
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 
 
 
 Some PetsMart stores have an attached vet clinic called Banfield.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Thu, 6/18/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
 
  From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:54 PM
  It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d.
  
  Gary
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
  
  But is it simply called A/D with Banfield?? What is
  Banfield?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Susan 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Debbie
  Harrison
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
  
  
  I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet
  
  Debbie (COL)
  Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard
  battle? Philo
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing

2009-06-17 Thread Debbie Harrison

Amy, I am so sorryI have stayed on the sidelines during this because I knew 
others were far more knowledgeable...Godspeed, little Maverickyou were 
loved, and touched many lives.

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:09:08 -0700
 From: awilkin...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
 
 
 His name is Maverick. 
 
 He woke up this morning with a yellow color and has let us know he's had 
 enough. We just returned from the vet and he had a peaceful passing.
 
 Amy
 
 --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
 
  From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:45 AM
  Poor guy. What is his name? 
  Please keep us posted.
  Laurie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Amy
  Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:22 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
  
  
  Yeah, the vet does know about it.  He threw it up and
  she said that means it
  was recently ingested.  She said we can look at his
  belly today if we want
  but she said she felt while we were there and his belly
  felt fine.  I read,
  and so did she, that one of the main reasons cats eat
  litter is because of
  anemia and we already know that's going on.  I've lost
  the majority of my
  leuk positives over the years the same way.  Either
  anemisa or tumors.  We
  do full blood workups every 6 months to try to keep an eye
  on anemia but
  I've never been able to bring one back yet once the
  hematocrit starts
  dropping quickly.  I expected him to live longer
  because I've lost most of
  my guys with hematocrits between 7-13 and his is 23. 
  This guy is fading,
  though, and I think he's probably had enough.  I'm
  just trying to decide if
  I want to do bloodwork and radiographs or if I want to just
  let him go
  peacefully without disturbing him any further.  I have
  no doubt that the
  leukemia has just taken it's toll on him :(  
  
  He also has Bartonella and despite numerous treatments, has
  not been able to
  shake it.  We couldn't figure it out because any other
  cats I've treated
  have responded quite well.  This guy's numbers
  actually got worse after
  treatment so I'm thinking his body just doesn't have the
  means to cope with
  fighting it off.
  
  Amy
  
  
 I would be real concerned with
   clumping litter if he ate any, you know what it does
  when it
   gets wet.  Does the vet know about that?  I have
   heard that cats shouldn't get tums, will see if I can
  find
   the palce I read it.
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-06-17 Thread Debbie Harrison

I always keep a few cans on handbut I haven't checked for expiration dates 
on them...didn't even think about it.  I would call the 800 number for Science 
Diet and ask them!

Debbie (COL)
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 From: emilyofw...@aol.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:24:15 -0500
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 
 Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies 
 are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of 
 the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's 
 open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being 
 positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- 
 er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as 
 well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. 
 He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away 
 from Mom!)
 
 -Emily
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Re: [Felvtalk] Good news for a change from ME :)

2009-06-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

What exciting news...we definitely needed something to smile about here!  
Fingers crossed for continued health and happiness!!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:16:17 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Good news for a change from ME :)
 
 I worked my shift at Sids tonight and our beautiful Grace was there and 
 looking GREAT!!! She followed me around talking to me.I gave her MANY kisses 
 from me and from all of YOU!! Thanks for the prayers. :) Lets hope our little 
 tortie girl keeps feeling so good.
 Sherry
  
 
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dani Please add to the CLS :(

2009-06-05 Thread Debbie Harrison

Dr Jen is my hero...what a heartbreaking year this has been so far...but we can 
never give up hope, right?

Debbie (COL)
The time is always right to do what is right -  Martin Luther King


 
 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:33:12 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Dani Please add to the CLS :(
 
 Ok now this is just plain heartbreaking.I just found out tonight that sweet 
 little Dani (Dani girl) lost to this disgusting disease.Ok so how much 
 heartbreak are we supposed to take all at once??  Cherry and Grace are still 
 foghting the good fight.
 Dani was a dainty sweet Tortie.She will be missed.
 Please keep Dr Jen in your prayers,she is especially having it rough.Not only 
 is she battling the felvs right now but several Crash  cats are too very 
 ill.We lost a Crash cat too this week.Patton was a sweet big black boy.She is 
 also trying to save a couple other Crash cats that are very ill.It is really 
 adding up the medical bills.I am trying to think of some way to help out with 
 some of them.She puts her heart soul and money into these wonderful 
 animals.Thanks for your prayers.Sorry for all the sad news in the past week,I 
 hope you dont kick me off the list. :(
 Sherry
 
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...

2009-06-03 Thread Debbie Harrison

Mine will be something like She loved cats...but tolerated people

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:57:33 -0400
 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
 
 thanks to emily and laurie for these posts; i have been thinking of my
 eventual obit, as i read all the wonderful things people put in the
 paper (i've moved back to my home town, and find myself not only
 reading the obits, but KNOWING the folks written about, scary.)
 i've decided i want mine to say something honest, like, she was
 really a pain in the neck to those humans who didn't know her well,
 but has been joyously welcomed home by the thousands of cats whose
 lives she encountered.
 
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Elizabeth Paz
 mothernatur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Thank You for posting this Emily, it touched my heart.
 
 
 
  Liz.
 
  From: emilyofw...@aol.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:35:43 -0500
  Subject: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
 
  ...most gentle thoughts. It is the nature of a list like this that
  there is constant loss to deal with, and the fiftieth one is no easier
  than the first. But with each story, I am struck by the remarkable
  people here, who did not choose the easy way out and put a cat to
  sleep simply because he or she tested positive. There is a lot of
  grief here, but a lot of love as well. The kitties waiting for us all
  at the Bridge were blessed to find human families who saw the value in
  them despite the dread diagnosis.
 
  -Emily
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...

2009-06-03 Thread Debbie Harrison

GMTA, my dear, that's why!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:02:54 -0400
 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
 
 why am i not surprised, old pal, old friend?
 
 2009/6/3 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com:
 
  Mine will be something like She loved cats...but tolerated people
 
  Debbie (COL)
  The time is always right to do what is right -  Martin Luther King
 
 
 
  Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:57:33 -0400
  From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
 
  thanks to emily and laurie for these posts; i have been thinking of my
  eventual obit, as i read all the wonderful things people put in the
  paper (i've moved back to my home town, and find myself not only
  reading the obits, but KNOWING the folks written about, scary.)
  i've decided i want mine to say something honest, like, she was
  really a pain in the neck to those humans who didn't know her well,
  but has been joyously welcomed home by the thousands of cats whose
  lives she encountered.
 
  On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Elizabeth Paz
  mothernatur...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
   Thank You for posting this Emily, it touched my heart.
  
  
  
   Liz.
  
   From: emilyofw...@aol.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:35:43 -0500
   Subject: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
  
   ...most gentle thoughts. It is the nature of a list like this that
   there is constant loss to deal with, and the fiftieth one is no easier
   than the first. But with each story, I am struck by the remarkable
   people here, who did not choose the easy way out and put a cat to
   sleep simply because he or she tested positive. There is a lot of
   grief here, but a lot of love as well. The kitties waiting for us all
   at the Bridge were blessed to find human families who saw the value in
   them despite the dread diagnosis.
  
   -Emily
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(

2009-06-02 Thread Debbie Harrison

I'm so sorry Tigerlily lost her fight...please let Dr Jen know how much we 
appreciate what she does for these little ones.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:08:12 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
 
 I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly 
 deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right 
 away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a 
 rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen.
 Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her 
 feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there.
 Sherry
  
 
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now

2009-06-01 Thread Debbie Harrison

Jody, I am so sorry Darcy lost her fightbut I am so grateful that her short 
life was blessed by having your love.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:32:28 -0700
 From: jbutler5...@bellsouth.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
 
 
 Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, 
 becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their 
 best for her through the weekend. 
 
 Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone 
 could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever 
 attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. 
 
 We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it 
 was. She was much loved. 
 
 Jody
 Help blind cats see a future!
 www.blindcatrescue.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Life without Pixie

2009-05-29 Thread Debbie Harrison

Giselle, yes-when we love them so deeply, the loss is inconsolable...for a long 
time.  It's been more than a year since I lost my Baby Ruben, and I still mourn 
him...but now that grief is tempered with memories of him as a teenie baby 
doing all sorts of silly things...and I can smile.  I hope and pray your heart 
continues to heal and that one day you will smile again.

Debbie (COL)
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 From: gisell...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:39:29 +
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Life without Pixie
 
 
 Hi everyone. 
 
 
 I really, really appreciate
 the support and wisdom this group has provided over the last 3 years
 -- when strange things were happening (frothy clear vomit, a non-dilating 
 pupil) and I didn't know what to do, and especially during the scary and sad 
 days surrounding Pixie's death. This listserv is an example of the internet 
 at its finest, bringing together a
 warm virtual community of FeLV cat guardians from across the globe. You gave 
 me the courage to adopt FeLV+ Pixie in the first place, when I was only a 
 foster parent to her and had no previous experience with + cats.
 
 It's been two weeks without Pixie. Grief feels like a private hell but
 apparently I'm going through all the normal stages. I was in bad shape when I 
 went to pick up her ashes and the woman at the crematorium asked if Pixie had 
 lived a long life. I could
 barely reply that she was still a baby when this disease snatched her.
 But once I got her urn home and put it on the mantle, which was one
 of her favorite places to perch, I felt strangely relieved: the awful
 business of deterioration, dying and death was over. I
 attached her collar tag to my keys (the jingling sound of which
 made Pixie come running from any corner of the house in the hope she'd
 get to go outside). I miss her 100 times day. 
 
 I'm comforted to know that many of you have survived the loss of a beloved 
 cat and have eventually come to love new cats.
 
 Onwards and upwards,
 
 Giselle
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Champ Please add to the CLS :(

2009-05-29 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, I am so sorryI freakin hate this disease!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:55:44 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Champ Please add to the CLS :(
 
 Well Gracie is still doing a bit better,But sweet Champ lost his battle 
 today.He was a quiet shy gray and white boy.He never caused any trouble and 
 was always happy.Thank you .
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tiger Lily,Adam,Cherry and Grace

2009-05-29 Thread Debbie Harrison

Please tell Dr. Jen how much WE appreciate all she doesI'm so sorry things 
are so difficult for all of you right now.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:02:27 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Tiger Lily,Adam,Cherry and Grace
 
 Well I am asking for an overload of prayers and good thoughts from you 
 wonderful people.
 Dr. Jen sent us a LONG e-mail about poor Champ and these other 4.TigerLily 
 was fostered out to a volunteer and she still is just not doing well.
 Cherry our SWEET one eyed girl is in a bad way too.
 ADAM,this is one of my boyfriends from Sids(yes I have many I know) Adam is a 
 special boy I have been worried about him all week,I thought he was getting 
 better but he is not.If he does not show a sign of improvement tomorrow she 
 will have to let him go.
 Grace is actually the one out of all of them that just might make a 
 recovery,still not quite out of the water but hopeful.
 Dr. Jen had a very emotionally draining day and my heart goes out to her.But 
 then she has to come home and break all the bad new to us. :(
 So please think good thoughts for her too.
 THank you all
 Sherry
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Grace

2009-05-28 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, my prayers to little Grace.and to you.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:13:40 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Grace
 
 I am asking for prayers for sweet little Grace.I just recieved an e-mail that 
 she is in very bad shape with a high fever and just not well.she was fune 
 Monday when I was there,but we all know what horrible things can arise with 
 FELV.I HATE this disease!! I have watch SO MANY beautiful babies die from 
 this,my heart breaks EVRY time. Please keep her in your thoughts.I believe 
 she is with Dr Jen tonight.
 Thank you
 Sherry
  
  
  
 
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Add CJ to the CLS

2009-05-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sharyl, I am so sorry for your loss...knowing they are no longer sick is cold 
comfort at first, I know.  Just remember how your life was blessed to have him 
with you.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 16:34:51 -0700
 From: cline...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Add CJ to the CLS
 
 
 I had to have CJ (Captain Jack Sparrow) PTS this morning. I had taken him to 
 the vet Monday and she dx anemia from the FeLV. In spite of assist feeding 
 and B12 supplements he faded. Went downhill fast Friday and showed signs of 
 distress Friday night. With the holiday week end I just couldn't wait any 
 longer.
 
 CJ was one of 4 dumpster babies I rescued last summer. They were just 4 weeks 
 old. I have since TNR'd their Momma. CJ was the loving-est little boy. He 
 would sleep under my chin and purr me to sleep every night. No idea how I'll 
 get to sleep tonight. Every time I sat down he was in my lap for hugs and 
 petting. Out of all the cats I've had he was the sweetest. 
 
 I know he is in a better place. It's just hard to lose any of them but even 
 harder with the special ones. I just have Mattie, who is blind, left out of 
 this litter. She is my adventurer. Goes where no kitty in their right mind 
 would go. She is also FeLV+ and currently asymptomatic. I pray I'll have her 
 for a long time.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-14 Thread Debbie Harrison

Get a new vet...right away!  Poor babykeep up the assisted feeding and let 
us know what the bloodwork shows!

Debbie (COL)
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 From: gisell...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:02:52 +
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 
 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her 
 home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep 
 her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my 
 trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come 
 greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I 
 left them before leaving on Thursday).
 
 The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much 
 skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I 
 syringe-fed her a wet food  water slurry before rushing over to the vet 
 where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last 
 weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested 
 Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 
 
 She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's 
 it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even 
 recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't 
 suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about 
 courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have 
 anemia. 
 
 Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her 
 recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver 
 to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on 
 previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries 
 every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's 
 breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly.
 
 Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-13 Thread Debbie Harrison

Amy, I am so sorrythis disease sucks.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:58:34 -0700
 From: ajdalgli...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
 
 My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9 months.  I know 
 that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't 
 help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures.  .
  
 Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him.  He 
 quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and 
 holding paws through the carrier door at night.
  
 Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, 
 curling up at my neck during the night.  He loved to suckle earlobes and 
 would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person 
 who happened by in order to attach himself to one.  I told him that he would 
 have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself 
 onto everyone.  Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 
 months old and less than 4 pounds at the end.  
  
 We were holding paws when he left.
  
 It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said 
 many more times, but I hate this freaking disease.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS

2009-05-07 Thread Debbie Harrison

Laura, I have known too many folks who have had unusual experiences for me to 
doubt what you said!  I am so glad that you are coping well with the losswe 
are holding you and Charlotte in our hearts.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:50:28 -0700
 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS
 
 
 This is what's so strange. I'm not a religious or even a spiritual person, at 
 all. But after I felt that overwhelming peacefulness - and this is where it 
 really gets weird - the air in front of me changed. The only way I can 
 describe it is to say it sort of smoothed over, or glassed over. And then it 
 changed color. It had a green tint. And then everything dissipated and was 
 gone.
 I told my co-workers about it today, expecting to be ridiculed, but 
 surprisingly, everyone took me seriously. Alison told me that after her 14 
 year old dog died, she had the body cremated. It took 2 weeks for the ashes 
 to come back. During that 2 weeks she both saw and heard that dog in the 
 house. When she finally brought the ashes back to the house, she saw a plume 
 of black smoke whoosh through the house and disappear. She never saw her dog 
 again after that.
 I buried Charlotte in the fern garden. But I know she's not really there. I 
 will miss her so much, but at least she went quickly. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS

2009-04-24 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sharyl, I am so sorry for your lossHoudini was blessed to have had you for 
her short stay in this world.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:51:51 -0700
 From: cline...@yahoo.com
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS
 
 
 My dear sweet little girl Houdini died today. She was just 10 months old. 
 Test positive twice but never had any symptoms. For the last couple of days 
 she meowed when I picked her up. This little girl loved to be held and 
 petted. Since I have 8 house cats, I thought perhaps a bite or sprain but 
 could find any evidence of an injury. Yesterday she started breathing kind of 
 heavy so today we headed to the vet, a 45 minute drive. She stopped meowing a 
 couple of miles away from the vet's office. I thought she had finally gotten 
 used to the ride. Didn't know she was dead until I got into the vets office.
 
 I'm still in shock. Bright Eyes had failed over several weeks. I just didn't 
 think I wouldn't be coming home with her. 
 
 She loved to sit on the desk beside the computer while I was on line. When I 
 sat down on the sofa she immediately got in my lap. She just loved to be 
 loved. I will sorely miss her. I am just grateful I was able to have her love 
 for as long as I did. I rescued her and her litter mates from a dumpster site 
 when she was 4 weeks old. She earned her name because she was the only one of 
 the 4 that could escape from the crate I had them in. 
 
 Please add her to the next CLS.
 Sharyl Sissy Rocket CJ Mattie and all my Angels 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!

2009-04-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thanks, Belinda!!  I forwarded it on to everyong I know who has pets.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:49:35 -0700
 From: ma...@bemikitties.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
 
 * Here we go again:*
 
  The Food and Drug Administration is looking into a series of pet 
  deaths and illnesses, possibly connected with Nutro Foods.
 
  Nutro Foods makes both dog and cat foods sold under brand names Nutro 
  Max, Nutro Natural Choice and Nutro Max Cat.
 
  The company has set up a hot line for consumers to call with their 
  concerns -- 800-833-5330.
 
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30331337/
 
 I'm getting really leery of the good foods!!
 
 
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 Belinda
 happiness is being owned by cats ...
 
 http://bemikitties.com
 
 http://BelindaSauro.com
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte

2009-04-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

Heheheheheohai, MC!  Are you all settled in?

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:17:28 -0400
 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
 
 good to know you feel that way, mom--will make sure there's a DNR order in
 your file!
 
 
 
 2009/4/20 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com
 
 
  LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really?
  Well, if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save
  moneythanks!...
 
  Debbie (COL)
  The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King
 
 
 
   From: maima...@duo-county.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
  
   Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the
   circumstances. Don't let her get you down.
  
   You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very
   lucky cat and she knows it.
   On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote:
  
   
I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't
doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic.
Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I
tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a
second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte
was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a
healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my
regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had
gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was
concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended
that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22
pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency
center since they were just down the road  Dr Ray's office was
closing for the day.
I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed
since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She
started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and
Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of
the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated.
Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom
asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She
doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and
even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to
everybody and looking for attention.
Laura
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :(

2009-04-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss...

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:47:59 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :(
 
 I know I have asked for prayers for this wonderful soul lately.Well today he 
 lost his battle to this aweful disease.Pooty Poots was one of my special 
 boyfriends.I know I have many and will have many more,but sometimes certain 
 ones steal an extra space in your heart.This was one of them.Pluto was a shy 
 handsome tiger boy.I won him over with Temptations treats and love.And he won 
 me over with the trust he had in me.Rest in peace baby boy,you are now with 
 your mom Juno and brother Jupiter.
 Sherry
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte

2009-04-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Laura, believe me when I say that many of us are in the same financial boat!  
But I wouldnt do anything different...these babies are MY responsibility, and I 
will do everything I can for them.

I'm glad Charlotte is feeling better...don't worry, she'll eat more as she 
improves.

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:05:58 -0700
 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
 
 
 I've thought about checking it out, but I've met a few people who have been 
 turned down by Care Credit lately for no obvious reason.
 I suppose the rotting posts on the front porch won't be fixed this year, and 
 forget about painting the dining room. That's the most I've ever spent in one 
 day on a vet visit. And that's in addition to the $600 spent last week on 
 Tabby's teeth cleaning, Charlotte's initial exam, testing and meds and 2 
 neuters.
 Charlotte already is more active and is walking around the turtle room. She 
 still isn't eating as much as I'd like, but she just seems so more normal 
 now. And I really liked the vet we saw yesterday (Dr Michael Ray at the Cat 
 Clinic of Roswell in Roswell, GA, for all you Georgians on the list). I think 
 we've found a new vet.
 
 
 --- On Sun, 4/19/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Cc: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
  Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:06 AM
  Laura, hang in there as long as you can and if they have
  Care Credit in your area, try it instead of Visa. you
  don't have to pay interest if you pay it off wihtin a
  year. you can reach them at www.geoonlineservice.com or
  1-866-893-7864. they have gotten me thru a couple of
  $600.00 bills and a big dental bill. i don't know if
  they are in your area or your vet uses them, but would be
  worth a try. dorlis
   Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
  wrote: 
   
   I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She
  still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and
  appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially
  happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another
  clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a
  second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that
  Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus
  about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little
  ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how
  anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else
  could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but
  X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood
  transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22
  pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton
  emergency center since they were just down the road  Dr
  Ray's office was closing for the day.
   I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of
  coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and
  she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She
  now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we
  just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come
  back. I'll keep you all updated.
   Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900
  yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just
  put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want
  to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and
  even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going
  up to everybody and looking for attention.
   Laura
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte

2009-04-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really?  Well, 
if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save moneythanks!...

Debbie (COL)
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 From: maima...@duo-county.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
 
 Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the 
 circumstances. Don't let her get you down.
 
 You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very 
 lucky cat and she knows it.
 On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote:
 
 
  I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't 
  doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. 
  Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I 
  tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a 
  second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte 
  was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a 
  healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my 
  regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had 
  gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was 
  concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended 
  that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 
  pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency 
  center since they were just down the road  Dr Ray's office was 
  closing for the day.
  I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed 
  since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She 
  started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and 
  Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of 
  the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated.
  Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom 
  asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She 
  doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and 
  even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to 
  everybody and looking for attention.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte

2009-04-19 Thread Debbie Harrison

Laura, bravo for finding a different vet!  And a huge HOORAY for Miss 
Charlotte

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 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:02:26 -0700
 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
 
 
 I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, 
 just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't 
 especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that 
 I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more 
 blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% 
 versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off 
 that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had 
 gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about 
 tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be 
 done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both 
 cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road  Dr 
 Ray's office was closing for the day.
 I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it 
 was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down 
 right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just 
 have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all 
 updated.
 Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, 
 Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. 
 She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she 
 didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stray

2009-04-16 Thread Debbie Harrison

If the babies aren't crying like they are in distress, and they are moving 
about with a normal amount of energy, then give momma another day or 
socolostrum comes in prior to the milkand it is all they need until 
then.  IF you are truly worried, you could offer them a teeny bit of KMR from a 
syringe...just be careful that they don't aspirate it.

I am fostering a feral momma and babies right nowduring a very protracted 
birthing time (which finally meant a trip to an emergency vet and a shot of 
pitocin), I took the firstborn and gave it a supplemental nursing...just to get 
it settled down so momma could birth it's siblings!  It sounds like you are 
doing an outstanding job...trust your instincts.

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 From: sheila...@aol.com
 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:29:45 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray
 
 Hello all . I haven't posted in a while but have been reading everyday. 
 All of my positives are healthy and happy, but on April fools day I had a 
 stray cat come to my front door . I brought her in fed her and two hours 
 later 
 she gave birth to three beautiful healthy kittens. When I was petting the 
 momma this morning I rubbed her stomach and it feels like she has no milk 
 in her breast. The kittens are fat little butterballs and are not crying 
 from hunger. Is this normal or should I be concerned. My vet is closed on 
 Thursday and the next vet is fifty miles away. I'm not sure what to do. I 
 don't 
 want to be a nervous nelly if the babies are just drinking the milk as 
 fast as she makes it. 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stray

2009-04-16 Thread Debbie Harrison

Also, just to add to the good advice, I offer dry and wet food at all times

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 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:34:02 -0700
 From: sin...@sbcglobal.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray
 
 For right now I would say this is normal, the kittens have drained their 
 mother of the current supply of milk. 
 
 Put the mother cat on a Premium Kitten Food, Royal Canin Baby Cat is what I 
 have used in the past. Make sure the mother cat has plenty of water to drink. 
 If she will drink it give her a saucer of KMR, to help here gain what she 
 needs to feed her kittens.
 
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 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:29:45 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray
 
 Hello all . I haven't posted in a while but have been reading everyday. 
 All of my positives are healthy and happy, but on April fools day I had a 
 stray cat come to my front door . I brought her in fed her and two hours 
 later 
 she gave birth to three beautiful healthy kittens. When I was petting the 
 momma this morning I rubbed her stomach and it feels like she has no milk 
 in her breast. The kittens are fat little butterballs and are not crying 
 from hunger. Is this normal or should I be concerned. My vet is closed on 
 Thursday and the next vet is fifty miles away. I'm not sure what to do. I 
 don't 
 want to be a nervous nelly if the babies are just drinking the milk as 
 fast as she makes it. 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

Amy, I can't remember now...but, has he been checked for hyperthyroidism?  If 
he is eating that much and still not gaining weightjust curious.

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 From: swa...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:00:21 -0400
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr
 
 
 Thanks for all the ideas and advice. I had thought of kitten food but thought 
 it best to steer clear for the reasons mentioned- concern about kidney 
 function- as we are already worried about that. The dang cat eats just FINE- 
 he eats like a horse, and is easily eating twice what the other two are, 
 maybe combined. I'm wary of getting into another bought of testing to 
 determine why he's eating so much and still wasting away- see my previous 
 thread. Very hard to do lots of intensive vet work with this cat. I'm going 
 to try baby food as I think we'll be able to add it to his 'normal' rations 
 without issue. He's still king of the roost- hardly has to look at the other 
 two and they scatter to the wind. I think baby food will be viscous enough 
 for him to nosh in one go with the dry. We have also begun giving him bits of 
 chicken throughout the day- if he didn't think he was special before.. 
 well, now his crown is almost visible. Thanks again all-Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

duhI meant to say under sedation for surgerygeez, what a maroon...

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 From: dlh1...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:31:16 +0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
 
 
 Kerry, when I was MUCH younger, vets would tell you that cats couldn't get 
 heartworms...but I have seen for myself that it is possible. I have not used 
 Revolution, but the spay/neuter clinic routinely uses it for every animal 
 they put under for sedation.
 
 I do keep my cats on Frontline and Advantage...wouldn't that kill any 
 mosquito borne parasite as well? Curious kittens arecurious.
 
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  Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:21 -0700
  From: kerrymacken...@ymail.com
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  Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
  
  Dear all,
  Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I 
  would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for all-year-round 
  Revolution? 
  Thanks!
  Kerry M.
  
  Feline Heartworm Update:
  
  
  
  Dear Pet Owner, April 2009
  
  A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm disease in 
  cats is a far bigger issue than previously thought. Cats can get heartworm 
  infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito. Studies have 
  shown: Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection when mosquitoes 
  enter our home.
  
  Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm 
  lifecycle begins. The larval worms then start their journey through the 
  body, ultimately affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs.
  
  A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders, including 
  heartworm larvae before they develop into adults. As the cat's body 
  responds, the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to the 
  lung tissue. This disease state is clinically recognized as Heartworm 
  Associated Respiratory Disease or H.A.R.D. Once this damage to the lung 
  tissue occurs, it is not reversible and there is no treatment to remove the 
  adult heartworms from a cat.
  
  With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on 
  Revolution year round. Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that in 
  addition to preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites, ear 
  mites and fleas.
  
  Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your cat. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital 
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] patience

2009-04-09 Thread Debbie Harrison

I would recommend that you give her time to recover from all of the 
traumathen, by all means, spay her. If everything else (besides the felv) 
looks good, spay her...

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 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:22:11 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] patience
 
 ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted 
 messages. now working on important ones (250). please be patient if i answer 
 things our of order and out of date. 
 also just got another furbaby. she showed up around 5 days ago, looking 
 pitiful, only a 3 tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you 
 ever saw. bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to 
 hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and 
 picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is beauty 
 operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so took her to 
 my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i could not 
 bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay. well, she has felv, 
 a slight urinary infection. but her tail is doing well. he thinks a coyote or 
 something made a grab for her and bit her tail off. she is so sweet, i can't 
 imagine why someone would toss her out to fend for herself. well, she is 
 working in with the others nicely. no one has killed anyone yet. QUESTION, 
 SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT. vet says can't do anything until out of heat. i 
 almost have to spay her or she will never be able to go out for fear of 
 having kittens. he said most likely if she had kittens, they would be felv + 
 also. i think i remember conversation of subject of spaying pos kitties. we 
 think she is around 3 years. NEED ADVICE SPAY OR NOT is it safe with her 
 being felv+? we are doing the best test to be double sure and a complete 
 blood profile and urinalysis to make sure all else is well with her and also 
 to get a (normal) base for future reference. OTHER THAN BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS 
 FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY. dorlis
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty

2009-04-02 Thread Debbie Harrison

First off, I'd like to thank you for keeping this little one despite all of 
your other demands.  Then, has your vet done any fecal testing?  Maggie could 
possibly only need some antibiotic or antiparasitic...

Other than that, the wonderful people here will tell you to feed her a good 
quality diet and keep her life as stress free as possible.  Your kitten could 
conceiveably live a good, long life.  Best of luck to you and your family.

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 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:05:57 -0700
 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty
 
 
 I am sure you have covered this a thousand times but I haven't been on here 
 all that long and am very far behind on reading the emails. I have a newborn 
 and work and times get hectic, sorry.
 We adopted a kitten that after a neg test later turned out to be pos. We love 
 her so we are keeping her. The clinics around us usually recommend euthanasia 
 and don't have a ton of experience treating pos cats. We have a neg cat 12 
 years old as well. 
 My problem is that Maggie goes through boughts of what I call horribly smelly 
 Pancake batter poops. They are very watery and smell very foul. During these 
 times she acts as though she is not feeling well ( I wouldn't either if that 
 came out of my bottom). I would like to know what stuff seems to work best 
 and what stuff to avoid. I asked my vet about interferon to build immune, she 
 didn't seem very knowledgeable about it but prescribed it anyway. Seems like 
 the diarrhea has been worse since she got on it and it is $40 plus shipping a 
 month. 
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hate seeing her miserable.
 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEED HELP FROM GREECE PLEASE

2009-03-31 Thread Debbie Harrison

Marcel, there are many wise people here  I am sure they will give you the 
answers you need.  Good luck with your cats!

Debbie 

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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:22:16 +
 From: marcelwal...@yahoo.gr
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEED HELP FROM 
 GREECE PLEASE
 
 Hello and Greetings from Greece,
 We need help from the experts, pls.
 
 Before 2 weeks we've found out that 2 of our cats are FELV +
 It was an ELISA bloodtest (this are the only ones here in Greece)
 Now we wrote and talked with so many people but this made us more confused, 
 because we have one tomcat here (so 3 cats in the home) which is 9 years old 
 and he was tested Negative.
 Everyone tells us something different , one time they say that we shouldnt 
 give our negative tomcat a vaccency-injection for the FELV because it can be 
 dangerous in his age and that he will not get FELV now and another one tells 
 that we should go asap to give him the injection.
 
 To explain it:
 We took a stray cat before one year in our house, he was sleeping sometimes 
 inside and had contact with our both cats. One our little cat girl got FELV 
 but the older tomcat not.
 We want to help them but dont know what is now the best to protect at first 
 the old tomcat and what we can do with the both infected cats ? Because here 
 you cant get INTERFERON etc. also you get here only the standard cat food 
 like whiskas, Felix, Gourmet.
 
 Please can help some expert here, what we should do now with our lovely old 
 tomcat that he gets not infected and what we can do that we help the both 
 infected cats?/
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feeling Guilty

2009-03-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

We do what we CAN...and it hurts to realize we cannot save every one.  I don't 
think the guilt ever goes away, but it does help to remember the story of the 
boy and the starfish.every one we save matters.  Be gentle with 
yourself...I know exactly how you are feelingand so do many others.

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 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:23:57 -0500
 From: martinj...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Feeling Guilty
 
 when you have to turn away FeLv cats because you rescued one to many, 
 does the feeling of guilt ever go away. I was going to take a cat from 
 NY but had an emergency rescue of one who was going to be put to sleep. 
 I had to tell this person that I can't take the cat. We are getting our 
 last one from Indiana, that has been planned for months. I worry about 
 being reported to the ASPCA for having too many cats. We currently have 
 13, plus 1 from indiana makes 14.
 
 I wish I could rescue them all. In 2-3 years, when we get more 
 financialy stable, we are going to convert a house that we are currently 
 renting, into a cattery so I can rescue more cats. But for now we run 
 it out of our home, which is large, but is getting over run by cats.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto

2009-03-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

That is wonderful news!  I hope he continues to improve for you.

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 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:53:53 -0700
 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto
 
 Hello all,I am happy to report that Pluto is back at Sids and feeling much 
 better!! I brought his favorite treats(Temptations) on Monday but he was sick 
 at the clinic so I didn't hand them out,so tonight he will have his treats!! 
 I always hand out 2 or 3 bags of them.They ALL love Temptations.Thank you all 
 for your good wishes!!  :)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Bob to the bridge list

2009-03-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

Gloria, you blessed his life by giving him the love he deserved...he blessed 
your life by sharing his time on earth with you.  I am so sorry for your loss.

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 From: gbl...@aristotle.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:43:10 -0500
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Bob to the bridge list
 
 Bob was a wonderful little gray tabby FELV boy that I took in from a 
 couple here who rescue cats. He was found at a truck stop on the 
 highway, all alone, last November, and such a sweetie! But then he 
 tested positive for FELV. The folks who brought him to me were just 
 devastated, just loved him so much, as I did. They thought he was 
 not quite a year old, and we were all hoping he'd make it longer.
 
 Bob was fine - eating heartily, playful - until March. He became 
 lethargic and the vet said he was severely anemic. He got a blood 
 transfusion, and was on prednisone, pettinic, etc. But just couldn't 
 make it back from his sickness. He died the early morning of March 
 17, 2009, and with St Patrick's help went to the Rainbow Bridge where 
 he was greeted by all our other sweet feline kitties. Sleep soft 
 sweet Bob.
 
 Gentle thoughts to all of you who have lost little ones, it helps so 
 much having others out there.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] CLS - Angel Kathy - Non FELV

2009-03-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thirteen years?  Wow, she was a great momI personally applaud her and all 
she did for this kitty/

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 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:04:33 -0500
 From: moonv...@gmail.com
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] CLS - Angel Kathy - Non FELV
 
 Kathy is one of my friends' kitties. She crossed the bridge last week due
 to end stage cancer and renal failure. She had been blind since birth and
 they had her operated on to form eyelids so the fur would not stick to her
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is 
astronomical!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit? i 
 fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental 
 work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges until they 
 reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you have a year 
 to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you take more than i 
 year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my babies because i like 
 to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a 
 base line to start from. also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at 
 same time. dorlis
  Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
  Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to 
  care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle 
  Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
  Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
  ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
  own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
  lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best 
  choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like 
  Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in 
  his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
 You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
 Sue
 
  Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes Grrr 
  has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
  to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. 
  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, 
  deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
  credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you 
  may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may 
  be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but 
  his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
  pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
  mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
  drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He 
  eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
  modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
  treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
  tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
  close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other 
  two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride 
  home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her 
  rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
  for the support! 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters

2009-03-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

I have to say that my FIV cat lived 6 years after his diagnosisand none of 
my other twelve indoor cats ever contracted it.  Also, Spike lived a very 
healthy life until the last couple of days...I wouldn't trade anything for the 
time we had.

I take care of a feral colony, also...all TNR'ed and vaccinated.  Just because 
these cats were abandoned or born outside doesn't mean they need to die.  TNR 
works!

Debbie (COL)
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 From: stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:54:58 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
 
 
 Do they hold and re-test? Cats with FIV can live a normal lifespan. 
 
 
 
 Ethically, killing cats who test initially positive or even confirmed 
 positive but who are not suffering is wrong on so many levels. Maybe they 
 need to look up the definition of euthanasia.
 
 
 
 We had a Cat Management Forum last September and a volunteer took some pretty 
 good notes from Dr. Christine Wilford of the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project in 
 Washington State - check it out here: 
 
 
 
 http://www.pawsofpa.org/new/join_the_team.php?p=72
 
 
 
 And the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project website here:
 
 http://www.feralcatproject.org/
 
 
 Any reasonable person/people should be willing to listen to the most 
 reputable veterinary scientists on this subject - not only does it include 
 Dr. Wilford but Dr. Julie Levy - whose articles are referenced in Dr. 
 Wilford's presentation. Dr. Julie Levy has a site here: 
 
 
 
 http://www.ufsheltermedicine.com/meetTeam_Levy.html
 
 
 
 She runs Operation Catnip at the University of Florida at Gainesville.
 
 
 
 You can do a Google search on the subjects or even contact the veterinarians 
 and ask their advice to medical information.
 
 
 
 Anita
 
 
 Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies  kittens. 
 
 Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply 
 because they did not have a home. 
 Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. 
 
 Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR)  adopt for life!
 
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 Visit http://www.alleycat.org and http://www.neighborhoodcats.org for info on 
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 Visit http://www.pawsofpa.org for information on spay/neuter clinics and 
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Mickey

2009-02-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

Viky, we mourn with you for the loss of your sweet baby!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:50:43 -0600
 From: vdiga...@dss.state.la.us
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] My Mickey
 
 In October I joined the group requesting information on hemangio sarcoma 
 which my felv cat was diagnosed with. Everything I read was bad. He had the 
 first tumor removed on 10-13-08. It came back this time two tumors and they 
 were removed on 1-6-09. This surgery was very, very difficult on him to get 
 over. Then on 2-13-09 the vet discovered it had come back even more rapidly 
 than the first time. x-rays showed nothing in the lungs or spleen but the 
 liver was hard to see though not enlarged. This past Monday he stopped eating 
 and drinking and I knew it was time. The next morning I took my heart 
 disguised as a little 7 pound black and white angel to the vet for the final 
 time. The night before I laid him on the bed next to me and he stared into my 
 face purring for hours. The cancer had spread to his liver and I knew I could 
 not stand for him be in pain. Before I took him to the vet I wrapped him in 
 his cat blanket and walked him all over the yard so he could see his ducks 
 and feel the air on his face. He loved to be outside. So from start to finish 
 he lived 19 weeks from diagnosis. This is a deadly, aggressive cancer and I 
 hope none of you experience it with your babies. I had my little man for 8 
 years and 7 months and they were worth every minute.
 
 
 
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 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes

2009-02-11 Thread Debbie Harrison

Call their office and tell them you want the NAME of the medication and the 
dosage strength,they CAN'T not tell you!  It's your animal, and your 
money-this is your right.Debbie (COL)The time is always right to do what is 
right -  Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:26:18 -0500 From: 
fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 
Elevated liver enzymes  Orlando, my 10 year old FeLV+ began urinating on the 
bathroom rug just over a week ago. I figured out who was doing it on Saturday 
and got him in to the vet on Monday. They tested his urine and blood and the 
vet called me today with the results. She said his liver enzymes are elevated 
and his white cell levels are high. She is going to put him on an antibiotic 
and re-do the tests in two weeks. (When I asked the name of the anti-biotic she 
side stepped the question and just said is is a pill wrapped in foil. I am 
currently looking for another vet because there is only one vet in this 
practice that I fully trust and it is very hard to get to see him.)  Anyway, 
can anyone tell me what would make his liver enzymes elevated? The advise I 
have gotten on this list has proved to be better then the advise from this 
particular vet in the past, so I would very much appreciate any input.  
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Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability

2009-02-10 Thread Debbie Harrison

I don't mean to intrude here, but what type of gel did you get for the 
stomatitis?Debbie (COL)The time is always right to do what is right -  Martin 
Luther King Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:33:49 + From: pebble...@yahoo.it 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability 
  Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is 
that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My 
cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they 
play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each 
:-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats 
and many owners who don't bother to test their cats!  What am I supposed to 
do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them.  On 
friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, 
so I will continue to vaccine them and hope.  My vet scared me a lot saying 
that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by 
grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again 
to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really 
surprised to hear so...  I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she 
immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and 
nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be 
for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against 
fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with 
a local gel.  Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the 
first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin.  If you want to 
see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in cattish so you 
cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com  Hi all! 
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Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list

2009-02-04 Thread Debbie Harrison

Me, too!!Debbie (COL)The time is alway right to do what is right -  Martin 
Luther King Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:51:39 -0600 From: 
kmacken...@mayerbrown.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] testing the list  Your email reached me, James--thanks for 
checking, hope you're well too. Best, Kerry M.  -Original Message- 
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson Sent: 
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 
[Felvtalk] testing the list  Hey all,   Just testing the list since there's 
been no activity since  Saturday. Here's hoping that everyone is doing well.  
Best wishes to all.  James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA.

2009-01-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

I am so glad all of the hard work being done is finally getting something done 
up there!  Keep up the good work!Debbie (COL)The time is alway right to do 
what is right -  Martin Luther King From: tatorb...@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 
Jan 2009 13:00:52 -0500 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 
OT: Puppy Mills in WA.  Hi everyone,   I'm sure by now you have heard of 
all the different raids of the puppy mills  here in Washington. We are rank 
1st in Puppy Mills as I hate to say. I've been waiting a long time for this to 
happen. Finally after years something has been done. I live about 4 miles 
from the first raid. There are 3 different people involved with this. A mother 
and 2 daughters  possibly an aunt as well. Mind you these people live in very 
nice homes. So they made their money from  the puppies/dogs. The first raid 
consisted of 155 dogs/puppies of the small breeds, 4 cats, 6  large dogs, and 
a few birds. City of Goldbar. Second raid consisted of over 100 
dogs/puppies. City of Snohomish. Third raid had over 400 dogs/puppies, few 
cats, livestock and horses that  were extremely underweight. City of Mount 
Vernon.  Many of these dogs are being sheltered in the local shelters and 
foster  homes (Everett/Mount Vernon) and the fairgrounds in Skagit County. 
Some have been euthanized there was nothing the Vets could do because they  
were beyond medical help. They are all matted and have sores all over their 
bodies. Many of them have defects that comes with inner breeding. 
Malnourished and underweight. They had to live in their own waste.  I've 
seen some of these dogs it made me want to puke because of the smell  and the 
sight of them. It made me so mad that I wanted to kill these breeders for 
allowing this to h appen to these innocent animals.  Mind you this is a 
family ran business.   Sorry, I don't have the direct links right now. If 
you pull up the news and  newspapers for WA. it will show some of what has 
happened regarding these  raids. Not all information will be displayed.  I 
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Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties

2008-11-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

I agree with Sally...not only would that deprive us of their affections, 
however short, it also deprives these precious babies of the love they need and 
deserve, too. Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, 
but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to 
do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should 
do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale)  Date: Tue, 25 
Nov 2008 11:52:49 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan  Losing 
kitties  Amber, I'm sorry to hear about baby Parker.  One thing that 
everyone needs to keep in mind all the time - every living thing on this earth 
will someday die. Nobody knows when or how, and to deprive ourselves of love 
and affection even for a day, because of what may or may not happen today or 
tomorrow is a slap in the face to life and love itself.--- On Tue, 
11/25/08, Amber Gilewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   From: Amber Gilewski 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan  Losing kitties  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 1:43 PM  
Hello everyone,I am new to this listserv, but wanted to thank all of  
you in advance  for your insights and kindness! I recently adopted 2 FeLV  
positive  cats, Neo and Parker (1 in April and 1 in September). I  knew 
their  lives would be cut short by the illness, but wanted to give  them a 
 happy, comfortable life before they left this world. Some 
friends and family members have given us grief over  purposely  adopting 
these sick kitties. I've heard things to the  effect of You'll  be sad 
when they die to You're keeping a  healthy cat from having a  home. But 
I didn't (and still don't care)  what the naysayers have to  say. I know 
that I'm doing a good service to these cats  that otherwise  would be 
euthanized before they needed to be or would be  without a  loving home. 
Someone (who was in my corner) told me that  she worked at  a shelter once 
and no one would even play with the FeLV  cats, let alone  adopt them. This 
solidified my belief for the need of  loving homes of  these forgotten 
felines! Their happiness is more important  than my  sadness, as profound 
as it may be. I'm saddened to report that baby Parker (who we 
got  more recently in  September) died on November 8th. It was a sad death 
as he  suddenly  collapsed and died a couple of hours later in our home. 
It  was late at  night and the emergency vet closest to us was in surgery. 
 Other vet  services were an hour or more away. We saw him take his  last 
few  breaths and wanted to end his suffering sooner (but  couldn't). But 
he  died knowing (hopefully) that he was loved and that he  didn't die  
alone. He was the sweetest cat ever! :(Our other cat, Neo is 
doing great! He's not showing  any symptoms, has  put on weight since we 
got him, and has a strong appetite!  I recently  read about LTIC/Imulan and 
told my vet about it. He  didn't know too  much about it as it's a newer 
medication, but I asked  him to order some  for Neo. It's quite expensive, 
but if I would have  known about it  sooner I would have tried it on little 
baby Parker to help  him. Since  Neo is quite healthy, I'm not sure what 
effect it will  have on him, but  I'd do anything to keep him as healthy as 
we can for as  long as we can.  I'd be most pleased if anyone tries this 
with their cat  and could tell  me how it works out. Also, did your cat 
have any symptoms  before or  were they asymptomatic before starting 
treatment?Thanks for reading and for all that you do for your 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood

2008-11-14 Thread Debbie Harrison

Tweezer may have a nasal polyp or something simple...hopefully.  If he is 
having trouble breathing through his nose (cats are obligate nasal breathers) 
get him seen by someone asap.  I have an orange tabby, Kirby, who has had these 
problems since birth...and I occasionally have to use saline drops or (when it 
gets green) put him on antibiotics.  He is now 7 and does well...I just have to 
keep a close eye on him.Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do 
everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will 
not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And 
what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale)  
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:55:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood  My 
two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At 
first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood 
droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a 
little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is 
that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 
24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be 
less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to 
decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some 
Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the 
practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take 
him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed

2008-11-07 Thread Debbie Harrison

My sister's cat had stomatitis...partial extraction donehe did fine with 
the missing teeth, but had occasional flareups that were treatedsteroids 
and I'm sorry I can't remember the antibiotic...clindamyacin?Debbie (COL)I am 
only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And 
because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I 
can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, 
I will do(Edward Everett Hale)  Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:04:32 -0800 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice 
needed  I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see 
this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as 
possible.  My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a 
year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments 
(brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping 
her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a 
whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old.  I 
took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at 
this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was 
stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I 
was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and 
could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do 
but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth.  
And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of.  
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks Dawn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive

2008-10-30 Thread Debbie Harrison

Hey MC...send me your phone # offline...I need to ask some important questions 
about a couple of female kittys I want to have spayed...pretty pleeze!Debbie 
(COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do 
something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the 
something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by 
the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale)  Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 
18:05:27 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive  this is closer 
to what i would have said--wait to see if the cat is actually positive, and 
then weight the very real risks of NOT vaccinating against the potential ones 
of doing so.  i follow dr dodd's recommendations myself, i just define sick 
differently, i guess. (tho i'm REALLY not happy about the new protocol for 
kittens--every 3-4 weeks of vaccines until they're FOUR MONTHS OLD?? to 
me, that's WAY too much..)  MC   On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:48 PM, 
Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Our vet told us to hold off on both 
shots and spay surgery until the  final diagnosis. It stresses their systems 
and makes them weak,  thereby making it harder for them to fight off the 
disease...   Sent from my iPhone   On Oct 29, 2008, at 2:29 PM, 
MacKenzie, Kerry N.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:Sally, I 
personally would not vaccinate a positive cat. See Jean   Dodds'   and 
Charles Loop's (both vets) views here. (The paragraph below is   taken   
from the website.) Kerry M. 
http://www.newsagepress.com/protectyourpet.html All packages of 
vaccinations carry warnings that they should be   injected only in healthy 
animals. In the case of cats, vaccine   manufacturers advise against 
vaccinating pregnant or nursing cats.   However, many pets are not healthy 
when vaccinated although they might   not have outward signs of health 
problems. Charles Loops, DVM, a   holistic veterinarian from Pittsboro, 
North Carolina, notes that   chemically killed viruses or bacteria are 
injected directly into the   blood stream, which is an unnatural route of 
infection. (7) This   causes   the animal's antibodies to attempt to 
fight off the offending virus   molecules and render them harmless. If the 
animal's immune system is   too   weakened, he or she cannot fight off 
these viruses and can develop a   reaction to the vaccine. Even small 
amounts of a virus that is   introduced through a vaccination may be too 
much for sick animals to   fight off. They then may fall ill from the very 
disease to which they   have been vaccinated.   
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PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SALLY   NORDSTROM   Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 
2008 3:59 PM   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
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tested positive with the ELISA test.   May   they have their vaccines? 
Mom gets tested Friday. If positive, may   she   have her vaccines? May 
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Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey

2008-10-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

I read all of the information...thanks, by the way...and I agree with you; I 
wouldn't put one of my little ones through chemo with such a bleak 
outlookjust love him all you can while he's still well enough to enjoy it!
Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do 
something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the 
something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by 
the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale)  Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 
13:29:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey  I sent this earlier but I don't think 
it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going 
to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back 
as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor 
said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come 
back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it 
does. I want him to have as many good days as he can.Viky Digangi 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

Hooray for her!  How wonderful to get such good news...my Monday is now 
complete!  Thanks for sharing with us.  Sometimes things seem so 
depressingbut news like this brightens anyone's day!Debbie (COL)I am only 
one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I 
cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What 
I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do
(Edward Everett Hale)  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 
11:33:16 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group 
 Oops, truncated message. She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 
weeks.  Same at 11 weeks.  Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive 
again.  All 3 were the Elisa test.   Then our vet recommended the PCR test, 
which he says can detect even minute amounts of the virus, and is more accurate 
than the IFA.  Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a 
miracle, as we didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive.   So it does 
happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is indoors 
only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy otherwise. She 
had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely isolated from 
the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about washing hands, 
keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate...-Original 
Message- From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 
2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I just 
joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola,  the 6 month 
old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA  test at 9 weeks, 11 
weeks,  Sent from my iPhone  On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 
years now. I've   never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a 
problem.   Good luck!  tonya   Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote:  
Hello,  I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so  
 much  from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in   
terrible condition,  near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 
'tipped' ear and   I found out  later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in 
the TNR program. Don't   know whether  she was actually 'feral' though, but 
I doubt it because she has   become quite lovable.  Had her tested at a low 
cost clinic and was +. The vet there said   her teeth didn't  look so good 
and that was typical in feral cats.  When I took her to my regular vet, he 
somehow neglected to even look   in her  mouth and he said as a + she'd 
live a couple months to a year,   giving a very grim  diagnosis. I tried 
not to prod at her too much at first since she   was in such a  delicate 
condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed   she was missing 
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones   on 
the bottom. I was  horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even 
looked in   her mouth.  After nursing her back to health, she has become 
very healthy except   for some  sneezing spells every now and then. This 
does worry me because   sometimes  mucus comes out. She had extreme 
uncontrollable diarrhea  when I first got her, which after using fortiflora 
for a month 0A helped a lot, but did  not cure it completely. For the last 
week I have been feeding her a   raw chicken  diet (I have been feeding my 
other 3 cats this diet since February   with amazing results)  and her 
diarrhea is completely gone.  So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my 
other cats this entire   time, and she  really does seem to be happy there 
but I hate to keep them   separated. I am getting  ready to take her to the 
vet again to have her teeth checked out   because her breath  is really 
terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am   worried about 
stressing her  out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a 
  cleaning which will  probably stress her even more, but having an 
unhealthy mouth would   be worse on  her than the experience of a cleaning. 
Right?  I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year 
  and 5 months  (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd 
dose of   the felv vax) These  2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.  
My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives   become + 
?? Any advice  would be greatly appreciated.   Tracey  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Grumpy Gus is gone

2008-10-17 Thread Debbie Harrison

Bless you for making his short time the best it could be!Debbie (COL)I am only 
one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I 
cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What 
I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do
(Edward Everett Hale)  Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:18:53 -0500 From: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Grumpy Gus is 
gone  The abandoned Former Grey Tom Cat that I took in and called Grumpy 
Gus  or Gus for short, has passed on, this disease is horrible, the list of 
 issues he had are long. He sounded like two cats fighting when he meows.  He 
was loved, inside, well fed and had Vet care, unlike so many that do  not in 
the care of Companions.  Please add him to Mondays list please.  Sam  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Check out the ASPCA website!

2008-10-17 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thank you for thatI have forwarded to all of my friends and family.Debbie 
(COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do 
something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the 
something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by 
the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale)  Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 
12:06:10 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Check out the ASPCA website!A message from dorlis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   hello everyone. got this from ASPCA today. good thing to 
keep around just in case we are taking any of these and one drops on the floor. 
even if it rolls under the frig, cats can get them out. i dropped a blood 
pressure pill and Annie got it. i could have sworn she would not be able to 
reach it. didn't eat it, but was scary. dorlis   Paste this link in your 
browser to visit ASPCA today:  
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc_medicationsamp;s_oo=4NnmH79ucuWkpHTeChGxUQ..
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today

2008-10-14 Thread Debbie Harrison

Wendy, I am so sorry for your loss...Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. 
I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do 
everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, 
I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do(Edward 
Everett Hale)  Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:48:38 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today  
My little furbaby Jack-Jack crossed the bridge today. He had cancer and  was 
not responding to treatment. We will miss him greatly.  Wendy  
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Re: [Felvtalk] So Happy!

2008-09-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

Hooray for Tweezer!!!w00t!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! 
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:48:07 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] So Happy!  Hello everyone! 
Tweezers tests came back and it is likely that all that is wrong with him 
(Besides being positive) is a secondary infection! No liver stint. No blood 
parasites, no crystals, no micro cystosis. He already looks so much better. His 
eyes are not goopy, he seems to be gaining weight and no more watery stools. He 
actually was playing for the last day or so! Celebrate !! (Dance! Dance! 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing

2008-08-30 Thread Debbie Harrison

Me, too!  Loud and clear.  Thanks for checking. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 
Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:28:29 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: testingI see ya! James  Been busy in the rescue 
world. I too noticed it was quiet...hope all is well too, that is a good 
sign!  In a message dated 8/29/2008 10:05:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Hey all,  Haven't seen any activity on the list 
for a couple of days.  So, I'm testing the list. Hope all is well with 
everyone.  Best wishes.  James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight

2008-08-26 Thread Debbie Harrison

Kim, I am so sorry that Cole has lost his final battle.  Bless you for your 
love and care of this special boy!  You did a wonderful job. From: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:59:52 
-0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight   It is with great sadness that 
I have to say that my Cole has lost his fight. The last 2 weeks he has been 
recieving epogen shots two times a week and we found out today that the shots 
have not improved his anemia. He in fact got worse and his hemoglobin went down 
to 9% from 11% 2 weeks ago. He has also lost an addition 1lb in 3 days because 
he would not eat. It was the hardest thing ever to have to make the call in 
putting him to sleep or not, but he has been so lethargic and down the last 
couple days, I had no choice. He was not in good enough shape to even attempt 
any other treatment at this point. I wish I would have caught this earlier and 
maybe treatment would have been better. He had been living with Feline Leukemia 
since birth and he lived to be almost 7, so at least I was blessed with that 
time with him. Right now the hardest thing is to come home and not have him 
waiting at the door for me. I am praying that I made the right decision and 
didnt jump the gun on putting him to sleep, but I just could not take it if I 
knew that I was prolonging his suffering. I am having him cremated and we are 
having a special urn made for him with his picture. All I can say is that 
having Cole for a short 6 1/2 years was worth the heartache I have now, he was 
my rock and was there for me when I needed him and now it is my turn to be 
there for him. Thank you all for your support and words of advice, it helped me 
make it through the 2 toughest weeks of my life. I love you Cole. Kim 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Laura, I am so very sorry for your loss; please don't beat yourself up...you 
did the very best you could!
 
 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:24 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone  Sadly, I 
 had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and 
 getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On 
 Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of 
 pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday 
 morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get 
 Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. 
 Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked 
 about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and 
 kindest, to put him down.  He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of 
 days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just 
 wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has 
 never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two 
 positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked 
 out at the vet next week. I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this 
 hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me.  Laura  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures Update

2008-08-19 Thread Debbie Harrison

Caroline, looks like that precious baby has found his forever home with you!  
How lucky for both of you.  Keep us updated, please.Debbie (COL)You gotta 
bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:16:42 -0400 Subject: 
[Felvtalk] Seizures Update   Here's an update on my adopted/returned foster 
cat with alleged seizures:  By the time his appt rolled around yesterday with 
the vet of my choice,  I knew it was going to go well. The more people I 
talked to about it, the  more people said there was something wrong with 
those people at that house  and having him out of there was the most 
important thing. But he's just  gotten better and better. I have no trouble 
medicating him at all. Just  those first few times. He's actually one of the 
easiest I've ever medicated  now!! I haven't had a scratch or a bite yet 
and it goes super fast--  he's a good boy! The odd aggressive behavior is 
lessened. He totally  trusts me already and is a complete love-bug. He is 
just a quirky, willful  little thing and that's just his personality-- he 
wants to run around and be  hyper and get into everything and so sometimes 
when I scoop him up, he does  that growling, but it's funny/harmless. Most 
importantly, no seizures-- no  signs of seizures. I've had him since Thursday 
and you'd think he never  left me with the way he responds to me!So 
the vet saw a totally healthy, friendly, bright, Curious George Cat  
yesterday! He just walks all over the exam room, jumps in the doctor's lap  
and rolls around!, purrs, tries to get into everything! It's great to  watch. 
Dr. said we have a very healthy cat and he can't believe  those people said 
they were going to put him down! He said this is not a  cat you even consider 
that with! He agrees there was possible abuse. But  he also suggested that-- 
upon watching the cat's behavior in the exam room-  that he is a cat who 
wants to get into everything so he thinks it's very  possible the cat got 
into something- like a chemical- and the people- since  they are so weird- 
just didn't know and overreacted. He said that's very  possible and with the 
way that cats metabolize things so slowly, it might  just take a while for 
him to work it out of his system and that could be why  he maybe had 
continuing seizures (if he even had them). He said since  there's been so 
seizures and the cat is happy, he doesn't want to change  anything. Stay on 
the same dose of phenobarb for 1 mth. Then he wants to  see him again in a 
month and they will take blood and get a phenobarb level  at that time. Then 
we will work on taking him off it slowly and monitoring  the level. He said 
if we start taking him off and he has a seizure- then we  know he was having 
them, but at least we know that the phenobarb will  control it. But Dr. said 
no signs of a neurological defect-- none at  all. No need to even consider a 
catscan b/c there's just no signs-- totally  alert and bright. He said if it 
was FIP, there'd be other neurological  signs, like ataxia. But also, I don't 
know if I told you that?- adoptive  parents vet called on sat- and everything 
negative- fip, toxo, felv, fiv-  neg. Dr. confirmed too that blood work 
looks great. Good news all  around! He's a happy, healthy, bouncing boy and 
I'm glad to have him back  in my care! Thanks for everyone's input, care and 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures and some fabulous non-related news!!!

2008-08-16 Thread Debbie Harrison

This sounds like a perfect match...congratulations!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom 
where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:21:11 -0400 Subject: 
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures and some fabulous non-related news!!!   Well, I 
guess the lord truly does giveth and taketh away in a good ways sometimes! Just 
as I am struggling to deal with my returned foster suffering from seziures of 
unknown origin and reaching the height of my stress...I also have the best news 
I have had in a long time. My feleuk foster Manny has a home. A lady and her 14 
yo son were coming to look at him tonight at 6:00 and I had not allowed myself 
to get excited about it b/c I am realistic. But they knew he had feleuk and 
still wanted to see him (tho they have never had a feleuk- had two cats that 
lived to be 18-20 that died a few months ago a few mths apart). The son needed 
time to grieve but has recently been asking for a cat. They just want 1 so a 
foster friend suggested my Manny b/c I'm desperate to get him home b/c I just 
don't have the set up for him to have much of a life here-- running out of 
rooms! They have already been screened by the organization I am adopting him 
thru or else they wouldn't have come to the house to see him. AND they are 
cousins by marriage of one of my fellow foster friends! Manny is the healthiest 
thing ever and he's flourished in my care-- he's all muscle, not an ounce of 
fat, vivacious, playful, tons of fun, and a complete alpha male who rules 
humans and dogs-- whomever he is given the opportunity to interact with!!! He's 
the smartest thing in this house and that includes the dogs- of which one is 
very bright-- but Manny takes the cake in the brains area. I love love love him 
and would so keep him if I hadn't already had non-feleuk fosters and house cats 
and in particular kitten fosters.  So I didn't get my hopes up too much when 
they came to see him but they asked all the right questions about feleuk and I 
think they feel comfortable b/c they can rely on me and my experience since we 
will have a very open adoption! She is a nurse so she has a great base of 
knowledge for understanding his disease! I just want him to have a home so I 
have told them that I will help personally with vet bills so that he can have 
his red blood cells monitored every 6 months and should he ever get sick- with 
the treatment. The organization I am adopting him thru (I am working with 
another one on the side now that I am very happy with) helps with vet bills in 
all cases and will assist with his should he get sick! They said they 
were told by another rescuer/foster in the organization that they will just 
know the right cat for them when they see it and they said we just know it's 
him! I just can't believe I got my Manny a home I have a few days to 
spend with him to say goodbye so I can ease myself into it-- they want to clean 
the house for Manny and have to get a litterbox, etc. because they threw things 
out. I just can't even explain to you how happy I am but I know you all share 
my joy! Manny finally gets a young boy to PLAY WITH, an entire house to romp 
in, and windows to bird watch from ALL DAY (instead of just a few hours a 
day)! I couldn't possibly want more for him.  Caroline  
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Re: [Felvtalk] my Cole, help!

2008-08-12 Thread Debbie Harrison

Kim, I am sorry you are going through this with your dear Cole...only you and 
your vet will know when it is time to let him go...I just lost my very first 
rescued babyhe was only 7...not nearly old enough to go!  Warm, loving 
thoughts for you both. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:45:54 -0500 Subject: 
[Felvtalk] my Cole, help!   I am afraid I am on the verge of losing my loved 
and adored kitty, Cole. I have had him for 6 1/2 years and we have had our ups 
and downs with some illnesses but nothing a little TLC and medicine couldn't 
handle. I got Cole when he was 5 months old from the Humane Society and about a 
week after adopting him I found out he was feline leukemia positive. The Humane 
Society said they would take him back and give me a new kitty. By that point 
my heart was completely in love with him and there was no turning back, I had 
to meet this challenge with strength and do all I had to take care of him. Up 
until this point I knew that he would make it through all of the colds, 
pneumonia's, gastro-intestinal issues, but now I am not sure anymore. He is not 
acting like he would normally when he is sick..no sneezing, coughing, breathing 
difficulties, or diarrhea. He just lays around all the time, doesnt seem to be 
eating much or drinking much. Wet food doesnt even make him happy! I have 
noticed that he is losing weight as well. I have an appointment with the vet 
today to get him checked out but I am scared that this will just be the 
beginning of the end. I am unsure of how far to let him go. I don't know if I 
should keep treating everything or if I should give up? The last thing I would 
ever want to do is prolong his life and make him suffer more just so I could 
have more time with him. Does anyone have any words of advice? I am new to this 
posting and I am afraid of losing one of the most important things in my life 
and I am not sure how to even go about dealing with any of it! Kim 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need help-seeking forever home for feluk positive cat

2008-08-05 Thread Debbie Harrison

I know they take FIV and many other health concerns, but I don't think they do 
Felv.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 5 
Aug 2008 20:17:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need help-seeking forever home 
for feluk positive cat  Tabby's Place perhaps? http://www.tabbysplace.org/  
Gloria On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:34 PM, JENI RECA wrote:Hi,  
Need help-seeking forever home for feluk positive cat. Female,   young 
(between 1-3 years old), tabby, will be spayed and up to date   on vaxes 
before rehomed. The cat was abandoned at the shelter I   work at, she tested 
positive on elisa and IFA and now needs to find   a home in a week. She will 
be pts if I don't find her a place to   go. I can not take her in, I have 
four feluk positives, three dogs   and a husband that says no more, plus I 
can't afford to feed another   cat. Willing to travel, you will also get food 
with her and a   carrier. In the new york area...Please help  Jeni  
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Aug 2008 17:07:09 -0400  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone 
on this list.   Yipee!!!   I am so happy for the good news. Junior 
started out anemic as well   it was  actually the first symptom that 
something was wrong. He was put on   Baytril  rather than doxy but for 
the same reason. His anemia got better. It   was not  as bad as Buzzy's. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.

2008-08-04 Thread Debbie Harrison

What wonderful news, Sue!!  I have learned so much from everyone here 
already!!! Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:41:03 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this 
list.  I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone 
from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. 
It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the 
Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone 
that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved 
and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-03 Thread Debbie Harrison

I have to say from my own personal experiences that you are correct, MC!
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Re: [Felvtalk] info please

2008-07-30 Thread Debbie Harrison

I hope this is correct...I had it saved
James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research  
Support)http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page)Debbie



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:06:45 
-0400Subject: [Felvtalk] info please



Hi, can someone tell me how to contact the moderator of the group?
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens

2008-07-27 Thread Debbie Harrison

Michele (and others)...not being sarcastic...I really need to know!!
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:23:16 
+Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
Hi, 
 
We've had several FIV cats and they've all lived well into their teens. We 
didn't even start to see any health problems until they were older. One of our 
FIV cats is about 15 and she has only ever been to the vet for routine things. 
The one thing I would suggest is that you feed a really good quality diet and 
also that you get regular teeth cleanings. FIV cats tend to have teeth 
problems. 
 
Michele
 
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  We 
have had a kitten since last summer when he was about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old.  
He came back possitive FIV. He was tested again when he was about 9 or 10  
months old and sad to say, he was still possitive. So I guess he does have FIV. 
 Not sure what to do now. Thanks, Robin P.   gary wrote:   OK, here we 
go. The only reason to test a kitten for FIV before 6 months is to 
obtain a  negative test and know for certain the kitten does NOT have FIV and 
can be  adopted without the chance of FIV. We all know that MOST kittens who 
test  positive for FIV will test negative when retested around 6 months of 
age. For FeLV, the accuracy of the test itself is not affect ed by the 
age of the  kitten (at least I have never seen any data to indicate that) 
however, it can  take 1 to 3 months to develop FeLV antigens to a detectable 
level after  exposure. Some feel they are detectable in as little as 2 weeks. 
The vet is  just trying to avoid a false negative. Unfortunately, 
there has not been enough study done to know just how much  exposure and for 
what length of time it takes to infect a kitten or a cat. An  article in 
Shelter Medicine says, FeLV can be spread transplacentally from  mother to 
offspring, but spread via nursing or grooming is more common.  
http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_feline_felv.shtml They don't 
reference any data for that. Sort of leaves you in a tough place  if you have 
a know FeLV queen about to give birth, do the kittens already have  it, or do 
you snatch them away as soon as they ar e born so they don't get it  from milk 
or grooming? Hope that helps. Gary   - Original Message 
-   From: MaryChristine   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: 
Friday, July 25, 2008 1:19 PM   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval 
for kittens   i guess the question is this, tho i may be wrong:
 there is no point in testing for FIV until at least six months of age,  
because both the ELISA and western blot test antibodies, and kittens will show 
 their MOM'S antibodies until (and often for two or three motnsh beyond) then. 
is the only reason that the article i just read said you can test for 
FeLV,  which tests antigens instead of antibodies? why would the vet mentioned 
above  then say 3 months is the best age?   ;
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens

2008-07-27 Thread Debbie Harrison

well...that went poorly...I was asking what constitutes a good diet for cats 
these days...please.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:39:29 
+0500Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens


Michele (and others)...not being sarcastic...I really need to know!! 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:23:16 
+Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
Hi, 
 
We've had several FIV cats and they've all lived well into their teens. We 
didn't even start to see any health problems until they were older. One of our 
FIV cats is about 15 and she has only ever been to the vet for routine things. 
The one thing I would suggest is that you feed a really good quality diet and 
also that you get regular teeth cleanings. FIV cats tend to have teeth 
problems. 
 
Michele
 
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  We 
have had a kitten since last summer when he was about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old.  
He came back possitive FIV. He was tested again when he was about 9 or 10  
months old and sad to say, he was still possitive. So I guess he does have FIV. 
 Not sure what to do now. Thanks, Robin P.   gary wrote:   OK, here we 
go. The only reason to test a kitten for FIV before 6 months is to 
obtain a  negative test and know for certain the kitten does NOT have FIV and 
can be  adopted without the chance of FIV. We all know that MOST kittens who 
test  positive for FIV will test negative when retested around 6 months of 
age. For FeLV, the accuracy of the test itself is not affect ed by the 
age of the  kitten (at least I have never seen any data to indicate that) 
however, it can  take 1 to 3 months to develop FeLV antigens to a detectable 
level after  exposure. Some feel they are detectable in as little as 2 weeks. 
The vet is  just trying to avoid a false negative. Unfortunately, 
there has not been enough study done to know just how much  exposure and for 
what length of time it takes to infect a kitten or a cat. An  article in 
Shelter Medicine says, FeLV can be spread transplacentally from  mother to 
offspring, but spread via nursing or grooming is more common.  
http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_feline_felv.shtml They don't 
reference any data for that. Sort of leaves you in a tough place  if you have 
a know FeLV queen about to give birth, do the kittens already have  it, or do 
you snatch them away as soon as they ar e born so they don't get it  from milk 
or grooming? Hope that helps. Gary   - Original Message 
-   From: MaryChristine   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: 
Friday, July 25, 2008 1:19 PM   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval 
for kittens   i guess the question is this, tho i may be wrong:
 there is no point in testing for FIV until at least six months of age,  
because both the ELISA and western blot test antibodies, and kittens will show 
 their MOM'S antibodies until (and often for two or three motnsh beyond) then. 
is the only reason that the article i just read said you can test for 
FeLV,  which tests antigens instead of antibodies? why would the vet mentioned 
above  then say 3 months is the best age?   ;
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic

2008-07-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

I know I am totally too late here to make any difference, but myToken had a pcv 
equally low...and with serious steroid treatments (plous other meds and rx 
food) he recoveredholding Buzz and his mom in my prayers.Debbie (COL)You 
gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:37:55 -0400 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 
Buzzy is Anemic  Buzz has a red blood count of 8, the vet says it should be 
30. She gave him a steriod shot. She says we could choose to give him a 
transfusion but that would only be a temporary fix and very expensive. He also 
has a bad heart murmer. Right now I am just trying to by time to look into 
optiions. I am very much against making a cat go through a lot of painful 
procedures just to buy a month or two. They just don't understand why you are 
doing it to them. Why can't cats take iron pills like anemic humans do? So many 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(

2008-07-24 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss of Hennesseylost my Baby Ruben last 
month...one day we will smile again.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're 
planted!

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:17:10 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(




I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he had to 
be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey

2008-07-23 Thread Debbie Harrison

Sherry, the best of luck to you and Hennessey...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom 
where you're planted!

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:53:00 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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Hi all we are in need of your good thoughts and prayers again.Sweet big orange 
boy Hennessey may be in liver failure.Dr. Jen is doing all she can for him. 
Thank you all.
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP!

2008-07-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

Julie, I wish you tremendous luck...such sweet beautiful babies!Debbie 
(COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:09:10 +To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[Felvtalk] HELP!
Hi Everyone, I am a volunteer with a new (in operation for 1 year) rescue group 
in Upstate NY.  I have a litter of kittens, now 13 weeks, who tested positive 
last week for FeLV.  I had them in with another litter..I know this was wrong, 
but it was certain death for them if I did not do this..I took a chance and it 
was a bad one.  The others have all tested negative, but will be re-tested 
regardless..The positive litter had 1 kitten that was negative and 4 positive.  
1 also was tested negative 2 weeks ago, but passed away in the hospital from a 
bacterial overload.  These kittens are so healthy and happy..they are the most 
loving bunch I have ever known.  I am desperate to try and find them homes.  
They have been separated from the negatives and are temporarily being kept in 
someones spare room.  This is not a permanent solution obviously.  I am hoping 
and praying that when they are retested that they may go negative..but our vet 
tells us that is very unlikely and I should look for homes for them where they 
can be only kitties or with other FeLV + cats.  We have 2 from last year that 
we were never able to find homes for..they became permanent fosters...this is 
not doable for us now as we have no foster that can keep them indefinitely.  I 
am reaching out in hopes that some of you may be interested in adopting one of 
these beautiful ans healthy babies.  they are fully vetted and have been 
altered as well.  I would be willing to transport them anywhere as long as it 
is a safe and loving home!  Please let me know if you can help or if you have 
any suggestions on who could help.  They do not deserve to die..they deserve to 
have loving homes!  Here is a link to their pictures: a 
href=http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/julielafferty/Mayberry%20Babies/; 
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src=http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/julielafferty/Mayberry%20Babies/Barney.jpg;
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their names are Barney, Helen, Opie and Bea..
Desperately in need of help,
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV therapy

2008-07-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

Hello Herbert...just want to welcome you...I am new, also...and learning 
something new every day.  Thank you for your input.Debbie You gotta bloom 
where you're planted!

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:51:40 
-0300Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV therapy




Hello! nice to meet you. 
I am from Brazil and new to this talk group. If you’re not attracted to read so 
much, please, just jump to essential questions at the last paragraph.
 
I have 14 cats, four of them FeLV+, persistently viremic, according to the 
results of four IFA tests carried through the last 6 months. Pupa, a siamese 
female 8 years old is the only showing advanced symptoms of illness, having 
developed lymphoma (diagnosed in April, in a submandibular lymphnode). The 
other three positives are very well and without any complication beyond 
leucopenia. The FeLV+ cats have been kept isolated from the others 10 animals 
(which have been recurrently tested negative for the same period). I am 
biologist and scientific researcher in the area of taxonomy and evolution but, 
since the beginning of this year, into an hard attempt to digest an amount of 
literature on veterinary and human (cancer and AIDS, specifically) medicine, in 
search of some alternative solution to one given by the vets who diagnosed the 
problem in the colony: “We are sorry to inform, but you it will go to lose all 
the positives in a short period of time”.
 
Sometimes I wonder it wasn’t better if I had overlooked those papers in the 
first NCBI PubMed search. Since then I am trying to understand why such 
promising line of research have been discontinued after the 1990’s.  The 
subsequent articles contradicting those finds are too few and, although a 
randomized controlled clinical trial, reporting there is no significant 
statistical difference between treated and placebo groups, a large amount of 
the early finds were left untouched, given no alternative explanation to a 
number of cases reporting remission of FeLV infection and FeLV related 
lymphosarcoma.
 
I had no choice, and nothing to lose, so I decided to begin a treatment from my 
own. I still haven’t read all the early talks in this mailing list, but I 
expect many of you have already realized what the matter is; indeed I believe 
that some have previously experienced such drama. If so, I hope you can share 
with me some results, conclusions or just your doubts and opinions. I’ll be 
very pleased in putting my preliminary impression, to plant my doubts and 
discuss possible outcomes.
 
DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE TRIED A TREATMENT WITH STAPHYLOCOCCAL PROTEIN A (SPA)? 
HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT ANY SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL TRIAL OUTSIDE THE CIENTIFIC 
LITERATURE?
 
Thanks,
Hebert
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common 
with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Oh yeah, she said it...we actually argued about itI have never felt 
completely comfortable with her diagnostic skills...Debbie (COL)You gotta 
bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:18:56 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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Yes,
 
MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members.  But I have to 
agree with her.  Are you sure your vet actually said this
tMaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!it's a major problem now that 
cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him 
for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not 
whom you need for your dear.as ever, objectively yours,MC
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!!  LOL...she hates 
doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal 
opinion).Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. i meant does he specialize in 
cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common 
with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Ohai, MaryChristine...I'm happy that you posted the website yet again...it's 
the first time I have seen it!  You rock, mai fondue fren!Debbie (COL)You 
gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:53:49 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies
unfortunately, not enough vets know as much as they really ought to. many, many 
times i wish that i knew MORE, because i am NOT a vet, i am NOT a virologist, 
and just do my best to make the things i've found clearer to others--and hope 
that those who know more than i do, will do likewise!i think that EVERYONE who 
has a FeLV, and who knows one, or who ever has loved one, needs to play out 
copies of--of have the url to tattooed where they can show it everyone--the 
most recent merck manual, where they've got the most up-to-date figures about 
how many cats do NOT remain viremic after exposure. shelters, rescues, 
vets, people who claim to follow alley cat allies' policy yet in practice test 
all cats and then KILL felvs (yet brag about the FeLVs they have at home): 
there are no excuses for ignorance, and now that the anecdotal info that the 
brave people who came before us is reaching the mainstream, ignorance about 
FeLV is a CHOICE when made by professionals, veterinary or rescue. here's that 
link again, and while i DO get tired of posting it, oh, well, if i don't (and 
you don't, and you don't, and you, there, over in the corner snuggling with 
your cute little FeLV baby, don't), no one else will.) The Merck Veterinary 
Manual -Feline Leukemia Virus and Related Diseases: Introduction do you have 
other cats? (yeah, i know, i could go back and reread everything, but.) are 
you isolating the little ones because of their FeLV status, or presumed status? 
are the older ones vaccinated against FeLV? if so, you really don't have to 
worry about them mixing with the young ones if the adults are healthy as 
the old-timers on this list can tell you, so far no one has been able to find a 
single, documented case of a TRUE negative (tested at least twice, with enough 
time for exposure and seroconversion times taken into consideration) becoming 
positive from LIVING with (closely, not just breathing on in passing) a TRUE 
positive (as above; testing positive over time, using at least two kinds of 
tests). current vaccination efficacy rates at 95% (yes, i am trying to find 
WHERE that figure is hiding in my hard drive; i know it was susan little, dvm, 
of the winn feline foundation, that gave that figure to a cat-health list in 
the past two or three years. many places state--not always with any proof or 
citation--that cats seem to develop a natural immunity to the FeLV virus around 
the age of one year, and with the KNOWN high percentage quoted in the merck re: 
ability to remain or become negative after exposure, anyone can see how 
miniscule the risk is for a vaccinated cat.is there a risk? of course there is. 
is it a higher risk than the same negative cat is going to have some genetic 
defect in its own history you have no knowledge of? i'm starting to think the 
latter is a much higher probabilityyou might want to talk with some of the 
folks who have positives running around their houses with the rest, now and in 
the past, and see why they made that decisioni wish that i could tell you 
that these little ones will, indeed, throw off the virus on their own and be as 
adoptable as any others. kittens with FeLV still appear to have less of a 
chance at a long life than those infected later in life, but we don't know 
enough to say why, and which ones have the best chance, nor what we can do to 
ensure that they get that absolute best chance. thank you for loving them. 
that's the best gift of all, anyway.MC
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Thanks MC for explaining the ELISHA test.  I had Mattie tested when her Mom. 
Daisy, was spayed.  A lady here on the Eastern Shore drives up to MD once a 
month to a vet who does low cost spaying for rescues.   She doesn't know 
anything about FeLV and just relayed the vets comments.  
 
Sissy and Rocket have had two ELISHA tests 4 months apart.  When I 1st rescued 
them and again when they were spayed.  Since they were FeLV+ I went with the 
local high cost vet for the spaying.   Didn't want them stressed any more than 
necessary.  I plan to have the IFA test done late this yr.  Both are currently 
the picture of health and tired of being quarantined in the bedroom.  
 
I have read the info on the Ally Cats web site.  I agree that healthy cats 
should not be PTS.  The Yahoo Rescue group I belong to feels that TNR kitties 
should not be tested as long as they are healthy when spayed/neutered.   Like 
the military 'don't ask, don't tell' philosophy.  The exception is any cat that 
will be placed for adoption.
 
There were 5 kittens in Sissy and Rocket's litter,  One vanished.  One, Daisy, 
has been TNR 

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Oh yes, I lubs mai fren MC!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:25 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience 
with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the innerwebs 
and she STILL joined the list!
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!!  LOL...she hates 
doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal 
opinion). 
Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. 
i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie 
Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common 
with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-19 Thread Debbie Harrison

Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-19 Thread Debbie Harrison

LOL, MCyou NOE  I lubs yu!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're 
planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:38:09 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies
it IS you, i thought it was my imagination!this is my FRIEND!!! oh, 
joy, oh, happiness, oh, never mind, you guys will NEVER understand!MC
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sharyl, since I am new to this site...I can offer little in the way of advise 
right now.  I just wanted to thank you for everything you are doing for 
them!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:21:44 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies 






I have been feeding a dumpster colony of kitties for several months with the 
goal of doing TNR (trap/neuter/release) for those that I can not rescue.  Of 
the 3 kittens I rescued 2, Sissy and Rocket, were FeLV+.  They are about 9 
months old now and are doing well.  Both have test positive twice.  Their 
sister, Daisy, had a litter before I was able to TNR her.  The kittens were 
approx. 4 weeks old when I got them.  I took them because 1 had both eyes stuck 
shut and 1 had 1 eye stuck shut.  The next day I was finally able to trap Daisy 
using a kitten as bait in the carrier.Daisy has since been spayed and 
released.  The babies have received one worm treatment, got terramycin salve in 
their eyes for a week, and have lysine added to their food.   It appears that 
Mattie will be blind.  She is the biggest of the 4 and very feisty.   I had her 
tested and the vet said she was very, very, very FeLV+.  No idea what 3 verys 
mean.  CJ may have some limited vision in her bad eye.  Bright Eyes and Houdini 
(escaped from the dog crate twice now) seem healthy.   I am adding L-Lysine and 
Mega C Plus to their food.  I am looking for advice on what else I can do to 
help them throw off this virus.   They will each be tested when I have them 
spayed.   Sissy and Rocket were several months old when I rescued them.  Didn't 
know if starting treatments earlier would improve the odds that they could beat 
this.   Any advise on how to proceed with now 5 1/2 wk old kittens would be 
appreciated. By the way Stormie, same colony but different Mom from Sissy, 
Rocket and Daisy, tested negative.  I did not have Daisy tested.  I knew I 
could not afford to keep her if she was positive and simply do not have the 
disposition to have a cat PTS simply because she is positive.   At least she 
will not have any more litters.  There is one more sister, Mae, that I have 
been trying to trap for TNR.Sharyl Sissy, Rocket and the babies

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-19 Thread Debbie Harrison

Thanks for the linkI printed it out and will mail it to the vet.Debbie 
(COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:28 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately 
need to find a new vet.  Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.htmlMost folks start out treating with 
meds to see how the cats responds.  Some will be candidates for radiotherapy.  
Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved.  
Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl
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From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next 
problemTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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