Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet visit today

2014-03-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Wonderful, Kelley, glad to hear the good news, and great price. Wish she was 
closer to me.

Gloria
in Arkansas


On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kelley wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Coco and I had our first visit to the holistic vet today.  I was very excited.
 
 It was very different from a traditional vet visit. No exam tables - just 
 cushions on the floor.  She gave coco a very thorough exam with plenty of 
 time for questions.  She recommends against any further vaccinations (coco 
 has had fvrcp and rabies vaccines) and will write me a waiver for future 
 rabies exams.
 
 She recommends a raw diet and supplementation with feline immune system 
 support tablets by standard process.  Total bill today was $55.92 including 
 the exam and supplement. I got discounts of $15 for the exam and $2.30 for 
 the supplement.  So far we have been donated $45 so that comes close to 
 covering all of it
 
 If you live on the gulf coast I highly recommend her.  
 Www.creatingwellbeings.com
 
 I will be posting pics on their website later
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

2014-03-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane
What rescue group?


On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Kelley wrote:

 Alabama
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Go for it. I've already shared them there and will continue to do so. Where 
 are you, Kelley? There may be some additional options for assistance...
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:
 
 I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.  
  But they do have a 6 month interest free option.  
 
 Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. 
 It is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 
 
 I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
 Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is 
 only for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. 
 People have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You 
 definitely need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems 
 treated quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond 
 that I think, to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for 
 it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic 
  and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 
  8:01 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
 traditional vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

2014-03-15 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Good grief!  26% is beyond high.


On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:

 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. People 
 have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. Most 
 of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely need 
 to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated quickly, and 
 try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, to some 
 extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 
  PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional 
 vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv

2014-03-15 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I think FB page for the kitties is a good idea.


On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Kelley wrote:

 Yes that was just for whoever said the  interest rate was low. It is not.   
 But they do have a 6 month interest free option.  
 
 Thanks to a donation I almost have enough to take one of them to the vet. It 
 is 35 dollars for the holistic vet with a discount on Wednesdays. 
 
 I'm feeling better since I got the donation and am thinking of making a 
 Facebook page for the kitties - what do y'all think?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 Good grief!  26% is beyond high.
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Kelley wrote:
 
 Just tried and was turned down which is what I figured.  But I did try.  
 Interest is 26% unless you pay it off in 6 months by the way. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Have you looked into Care Credit? It's very low or no interest and is only 
 for vet and medical expenses. Some vets take it. 
 
 Not that I think a visit to a holistic vet is necessarily necessary. 
 People have had mixed experiences with them. 
 
 I had 6 FeLV+ cats. One, who was also FIV+, lived to about 9 years old. 
 Most of the others lived to about 5. One died at 18 months. You definitely 
 need to take as good care of them as possible, get problems treated 
 quickly, and try to keep their lives stress-free, but beyond that I think, 
 to some extent, that it is a crap shoot.. 
 
 Michelle
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:54 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
 
 I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:
  
  My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and 
 traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments
  from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable
  and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is
  better care for her than she would get from a traditional
  vet. 
  Just my experience...
  
  Chris C.
  
  -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 
  8:01 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs 
 traditional vets 
 for felv 
  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Prayers needed for Bear

2013-12-24 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thinking of you Michelle, and sending healing thoughts and prayers for Bear!

Gloria


On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:15 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

 Turns out it does not look like FIP, looks like hemolytic anemia, where he is 
 killing off his own red blood cells, and the vet simply did not keep him on a 
 high enough dose of immune-suppressants so he crashed again. Now he is really 
 bad. I don't know what his chances are at this point, but I do not think they 
 are good, though the vets say he can turn around. He just got a transfusion 
 and they are starting him on cyclosporine, a stronger immune suppressant. And 
 doxycycline.
  
 Please send him prayers. He is FIV+, not FeLV+, though he has had as many 
 issues as my FeLV cats did. I got back on this list looking for feline 
 interferon, which I don't need, but one thing I know this list is good for is 
 prayers. Please pray it's a good Christmas for Bear and he responds well to 
 the transfusion and the cyclosporine.
  
 thank you,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm.

2013-12-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hey nice to know about Gary -


On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:05 AM, gcru...@centurytel.net gcru...@centurytel.net 
wrote:

 I have always used the Walmart brand (Equate) cream for foot fungus and it 
 has worked very well.  Not messy and doesn’t smell bad and is cheap. 
  
 Gary
  
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 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ringworm.
  
 LymDyp.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Probably Clindamycin...  I always keep it around.


On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:12 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:

 I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. 
 Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. 
 I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn
 
 
 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with 
 severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for 
 stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're 
 leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.
 
 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, 
 but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath 
 which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.
 
 Please help!
 Jen
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
  a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have 2-3 methods I use
1) I started out giving a depomedrol injection periodically (once every 4-6 
weeks or as needed).  Seems like it's 1/2 cc depo.

2) Then someone suggested oral dexamethasone - so I give about 1/2 cc Dex 
orally, and it lasts a few days.  Sometimes though they're quite resistant to 
having something squirted in the mouth. 

3) the most recent option Ive tried is Zyrtec.  I buy Zyrtec at the grocery 
store or pharmacy.  Also got a pill cutter and cut the Zyrtec in half.  I put 
the half zyrtec in wet food once a day.  You may need to crush it at first.

I've started doing the last two together in some cases.  Have found the Zyrtec 
very helpful for some runny noses too.

But to start out, with a difficult cat, I do Depo for about a month and see how 
that works and if I can switch to Dex.

If you google these options you can find out more, of course.  

Gloria



On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with 
 severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for 
 stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. 
 
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're 
 leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.
 
 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but 
 it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which 
 makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.
 
 Please help!
 Jen
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
  a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite

2013-12-19 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I think it's safe to put coconut oil on kitty skin - a friend swears by it, 
uses for ringworm on cats.  I usually use Golden Seal, but found the following 
re coconut oil:

http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/pets-and-coconut-oil-an-experiment-with-two-cats/


Gloria



On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:04 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 From all the things I have read, no oils are safe for cats.  I use eucalyptus 
 for my sinus and lavender to help me sleep, but make sure the cats do not get 
 too close when I do.
 
  Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I researched it before and read no on oregano oil. The phenols in essential 
 oils can not be processed by the feline liver. Lym dyp is safe and 
 effective. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:08 PM, KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can oregano oil be used on cats?  A friend has two kittens with awful 
 ringworm.  So far Program and Vetericyn haven't done much.  (Gave her some 
 Vibactra Plus tonite to try boosting the kittens' immune system.)
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 17, 2013, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I'm actually more into natural and homeopathic then conventional 
 medicine.
 
 Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Dec 17, 2013 12:04 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
 
 I am leary of drs. who want to see/know about herbs, etc. as they might 
 report you for practicing medicine without a license.
 
  Unless one is charging for services, simply suggesting or selling a 
 legal product probably presents no legal issue. I've had mixed results 
 with alternative therapies, but don't hesitate to try them, after 
 considerable research. It's probably best to tell your Allopath about 
 anything you're taking, no matter how safe, as some herbal remedies and 
 products can significantly affect physiology. Which means they work :)
 
 All the best,
 
 Margo
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: cat bite

2013-12-14 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Just had to add my 2 cents.  Lance, I always prefer Augmentin, and it's always 
worked well for me.  I usually clean the bite with cold water and hydrogen 
peroxide, and if I see the red lines creeping up my hand and arm, I head for 
the doctor (started to say vet) and get some Augmentin. One tried to give me 
something else, I forget what, but it irritated my sensitive tummy and I went 
back for Augmentin.  Fortunately haven't had a bite in a long time :)

Glad yours is doing well.

Gloria



On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

 Listen, I had one cat, the late great Little Boy, who bit me twice over the
 years and each time I had to spend the night in the hospital for iv
 antibiotics.  Thing is some cats have this bacteria in their mouth
 (Pasteurella multocida) and he was one of them.  If that bacteria gets into
 your bloodstream, it can quickly lead to sepsis.  He was the only cat I had
 who had that bugger and he was sweet as pie but a bite was a bad thing.
 Look for a red line going u your arm...if you start seeing it--go to eroom
 as you want to stop infection from hitting lymph nodes and causing sepsis.  
 
 -Original Message-
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 Lance
 Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:08 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: cat bite
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 During play, one of our cats bit me earlier today. I tried to get to an
 urgent care clinic, but they decided to stop seeing people at 4:30 pm.
 despite listing hours as 9-5. Real nice. ;-) 
 
 Anyway, I'm wondering how worried I should be. A lovely pic of the bite can
 be seen here:
 
 https://www.evernote.com/shard/s201/sh/fc76bb30-31ff-40ed-80b1-4f499d5461e4/
 4adec821f3519913f482848c4c5f730b
 
 It seems much more superficial and scratchy rather than being a deep
 puncture wound, and FYI, you're looking at my right arm about two inches
 above my elbow.
 
 We have doxycycline in the house, but the last time I was bitten, I took
 augmentin. Would prefer to do that, but I'm out of luck for the night,
 unless I feel like a high-costing trip to the ER (I'm currently
 inusrance-less, as luck would have it).
 
 Has anyone used doxy for cat bites? What symptoms around the bite should I
 be looking for that indicate its seriousness? I can get in to the urgent
 clinic tomorrow morning at 9, and the bite happened this afternoon at 3:45.
 Hopefully that gives me a little time. I know that none of you are MDs
 (well, I don't know that for sure), but would appreciate input.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] need home for FELV cat in Ft. Smith, Arkansas

2013-11-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane
BTW, Lance - I forwarded her the info on the Iowa locations.  Also found the 
Missouri sanctuary I used once before and sent that.  Haven't heard from her in 
a few days so think I'll check in.

Thanks!

Gloria


On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:39 PM, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:

 Ok thanks Lance- I'll talk w her daughter and give her your email. The mom 
 may prefer phone , I'll see. I appreciate it!
 
 Gloria
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 I’m in Fort Smith, but I can’t take anyone in right now. I’ll do some 
 checking with my limited contacts and see if I come up with an option. If 
 the woman would like to talk to an FeLV+ owner, I’d be happy to email or 
 call. 
 
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 
 A friend's mother has taken in an FELV cat in Ft Smith, Arkansas. They 
 found out when she was on the table being spayed.  Her daughter talked her 
 out of euthanizing the kitty.
 
 I told her I'd help look for a home for this kitty.  Lance, are you still 
 in that area?  I know there used to be a Missouri rescue, also, that took 
 FELV cats, too.
 
 Thanks for any suggestions!
 
 Gloria
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[Felvtalk] need home for FELV cat in Ft. Smith, Arkansas

2013-11-09 Thread Gloria B. Lane
A friend's mother has taken in an FELV cat in Ft Smith, Arkansas. They found 
out when she was on the table being spayed.  Her daughter talked her out of 
euthanizing the kitty.

 I told her I'd help look for a home for this kitty.  Lance, are you still in 
that area?  I know there used to be a Missouri rescue, also, that took FELV 
cats, too.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Gloria
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Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm

2013-08-31 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I learned 
about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for ringworm - mine 
was on my hand.  I've since used it on cats when appropriate and it worked.  I 
generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food store, about $8), as 
it works well and isn't purple.  But have used Malaseb shampoo and it worked 
well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, unless it's a bad case of 
ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the Grisiofulvin.

I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the reports 
of it - so I never use Advantage Multi.

Cheers,

Gloria


 
 From: Catherine Chang changic...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
 
 
 
 Hi felv friends, 
 
 
 I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing 
 options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been 
 mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: 
 
 I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing 
 the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week.  
 
 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm 
 very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 
 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. 
 The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking 
 Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is less 
 seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a pet 
 version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription to 
 get that. 
 
 hope it helps.
 catherine 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 

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[Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)

2013-05-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
In my experience, my kittens that have been born with FELV and kept the virus 
havent live much past 2-3 yrs of age. But sometimes their immune systems will 
throw the virus off and they'll test negative later.  And my cats that have 
acquired FELV after birth can live a long time, and when be tested again (Elisa 
or IFA) can go negative.  With mine, usually once they get sick (not a cold but 
really sick), they dont come out of it, they drift away and pass on. Their 
passing is usually easy. 

I don't think I've had many(if any) die of leukemia, usually other things like 
lymphoma.  I vaccinate when new cats (not FELV) come into the house, generally 
not after that.  I had one cat die several years ago, had tested negative when 
she came in, but when I had her necropsied after death she was positive for 
FELV.  All the cats she was with tested negative.

I have two FELV cats now, have had them maybe 4 years, and they've never been 
sick.  BUT I only tested them once with the Elisa test, so need to test again 
and see if it shows positive or negative.

There are also some subtypes of the FELV virus and that may play a role in how 
a cat does.

I;ve used Interferon Alpha for immune stimulation, also Dr Belfield's Vitamin 
C, never used Interferon Omega.  Have recently come across a new homeopathic 
treatment at 
http://www.pets4homeopathy.com/feline-leukemia-feline-aids-immune-system.html, 
which sounds very good and I ordered some -

Best of Luck,

Gloria
in Arkansas




 From: Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com
 Date: April 29, 2013 11:14:01 AM CDT
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Good morning from South America :)
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 
 Hi everyone, I'm new to this group. My husband and I recently adopted a male 
 cat; we named him Abelardo. We noticed he wasn't in very good shape, and that 
 he was desperately looking for a home, so we rescued him. He's FeLV positive 
 and also has anemia. He has low counts for red blood cells, hematocrit, 
 hemoglobin and leukocytes. The test to determine if he was FeLV positive was 
 an antigen test (Elisa). No one performs IFA's tests in Ecuador, my country 
 of residence. The vet said that giving he’s a young cat and that he has been 
 fighting with a urinary tract infection and showing progress, it’s possible 
 that he will become a carrier and will be able to lead a normal life. My 
 research on the internet indicates that after diagnosis, cats usually live 
 for 3 or 4 more years. I asked the doctor about the chance of this being a 
 false positive, but he said that with the antigen test the margin of error is 
 very small.  I’ve read about cats that fight the virus and are able to 
 eliminate it from their organisms, later testing negative for FeLV. I don’t 
 want to have false expectations, but I want to hang on to whatever hope 
 there’s still out there for him.
 
 We've started him on a biostimulant therapy treatment that will last for 2 
 weeks with Yatren Caseína (an immune stimulant manufactured by Bayer, don’t 
 know if it’s sold in the USA), which consists of Casein and Yatreinic Acid. 
 This is supposed to help him increase his white blood cells. We are hoping 
 this will boost his immune system. He has also been taking Isoprinosine and B 
 complex with iron syrup for almost 2 weeks. I don’t know if my cat is 
 receiving the best treatment or what should I do to increase the odds of him 
 not having to suffer because of this terrible illness. I’m willing to buy 
 medicine from another country if needed.
  
 The vet advised to test my other cat after 30 days to see how he's doing -I 
 have a 9 year old cat who's in perfect health-. I'm concerned now as he 
 shared the litter box and bowls with the FeLV positive cat for almost 48 
 hours, I didn't even think about this as a risk, and now I feel terribly 
 guilty for placing my beloved pet in danger. If he isn't infected, then I 
 should look into applying him the FeLV vaccine, which is not sold in Ecuador 
 yet. I have to see if there are ways to purchase the vaccine in the US and 
 have it sent to Ecuador through a merchant.
  
 I want to keep the FeLV positive cat with me, as chances are no one will want 
 him or will take care of him the way he needs to. We have grown so fond of 
 him, he’s such an adorable, loving cat. I thought about dividing my apartment 
 so the sick cat will not have to remain confined in just one room. I can have 
 the cats’ alternate spaces every week, after disinfecting everything properly 
 with Clorox and not letting them share the same litter boxes or bowls. Do you 
 think this will be a good idea?
  
 I'm desperate and I need all the information I can get, as you are all going 
 through the same ordeal, sometimes with moments of happiness when we see even 
 a little sign of improvement. It's comforting to be able to read about your 
 experiences. Abelardo has his ups and downs, days when he only 

Re: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?

2012-02-29 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Hi Rashel,

I think your kitty needs to see the vet asap.  Can't tell of course,  
but he could have fluid in the abdominal area, or some other  
difficulty that really needs attention.


Gloria





- Original Message -
From: Rashel Mereness
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:12 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Is my kitten having his first FIV/FELV episode?

Hi - I'm new and have been reading the threads but I don't seen  
anything that addresses my situation. We have an 8 month old kitty  
that tested positive for FIV (or was it FELV?) at a young age, and  
we plan to get him retested. He has been healthy, playful and had a  
great appetite. A few weeks ago, however, he started eating less and  
less of his kibble, which we attributed to him wanting only the wet  
food we were giving to the dog. So we kept mixing a little into his  
kibble but he was eating less but was otherwise fine. Then we went  
away over the weekend and came back to find him very lethargic and  
breathing very heavy - not making a lot of noise with the breathing,  
but we can see his lungs expanding and contracting a great deal and  
very quickly.  He won't eat, except he ate some of his favorite  
treats.  We had someone (who he doesn't know) staying at our house  
Friday and then a person (who he knows) stopping in on Saturday and  
Sunday. They said he didn't eat much. No mucous, no sneezing.  Sound  
like anything you have experienced?


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT-Transportation Available

2011-11-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I mix my FELV's with my non-FELV's - have had no problem. Several on  
this list do.  Also I have a friend who has 1 FELV and 1 non-FELV -  
she gives the FELV kitty oral interferon alpha, which is well known on  
this list.  They're both 4-5 yrs old now, doing fine.  FYI -


Gloria



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From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
Date: November 19, 2011 12:36:26 PM CST
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT- 
Transportation Available

Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


The woman trying to help the cat on Chincoteague Island sent me some  
additional information, so I thought I'd share it here.


He only has 11 days to find a home, foster, or rescue. Please feel  
free to crosspost.


Thanks,
Cindy

Here's the info she sent:

There is a resident population of feral cats at Tom's Cove  
Campground.  Some of the people living there put food out.   
Occasionally a cat is trapped and taken to
an area vet.  Storm showed up after Hurricane Irene.  He was trapped  
and taken to the vet to get shaved down because he was badly matted  
and infested with fleas.  At the vet's it was discovered he was  
already neutered.  His ears were not notched and he has no microchip.


Storm has not shown any aggression at all.  He is fed separately,  
but the other cats don't bother him.  He is not feral.  I was asked  
if I would take him home with me when I visited in October.  I took  
him to the local vet to be tested and that is when it was discovered  
that he is FeLV+.  I have a 3yo female cat who is FeLV-.  There is  
no way I could keep him separated from my cat.


While the rest of the colony will survive the winter, it is doubtful  
if Storm would make it through the winter outside and without a  
regular source of food.  The campground where he is now closes at  
the end of November.  I honestly think he would make a wonderful pet.




From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Date: November 19, 2011 4:08:53 PM CST
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question (Maureen)
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


On 11-17, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive  
kitten and
  since  I  doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to  
vaccinate my
  others  because  I'm  not  planning on keeping them separated  
forever.
  Maybe  I  should  but I don't have the set up for that.  I hate  
over -

  vaccinating  too  but  I think I have to in this case.


I have to vaccinate for FelV too, and I simply hate to do it. However,
I recently discovered that two of the cats in the shelter/sanctuary
building I own are FelV pos.  They have mixed with all the other cats
there for years and none have had FelV vaccinations. Currently they
are all healthy.  These are not my 15 cats at home. They are all
FelV neg and are never with my sanctuary cats.

Anyway, I'd also like to know which of the FelV vaccinations are the
best and least likely to cause VAS.

Lorrie


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[Felvtalk] retesting kittens

2011-11-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'm a volunteer and foster for a local cat rescue, and I always wait  
and retest kittens when they test FELV positive.  I don't deal with  
kittens that much anymore, and forget the time period for the wait,  
but somebody local has had some test positive and needs to know about  
retesting.  Seems like it's a couple of months after they test  
positive, that you retest, but wanted to check.  Anybody know?


Thanks!

Gloria


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[Felvtalk] interferon alpha injected?

2011-10-09 Thread Gloria B. Lane
One of the vets here told someone with an FELV cat, that she could use  
interferon alpha as an injection.  He didn't mention low dose ORAL  
interferon alpha.


It's been my understanding that the interferon was absorbed in the  
back of the throat.


Has anyone used interferon alpha as an injection rather than orally?

Thanks,

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

2011-09-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Same here.  When I first got an FELV cat, I was paranoid. But that was  
in 2001. Many of us don't think it's as contagious as is presented.   
I've mixed mine with my others for several years, no problem.  All  
mine are altered and sit around and eat and sleep.


Some of what I've learned is1) they may live a long time, may  
not,   2) they're not that contagious,  3) double positives (FIV/FELV)  
don't live as long,4) If they're born with FELV they tend to die  
at 2.5-3 yrs old,  5) interferon and stuff like that are worth a  
try.  Oh yeah, and always questions your vets advice   :)


Gloria


On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:


The virus isn't airborne.
it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but  
they r with my other cats.


--- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM

Hi Dot,

This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy  
lives in a bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of,  
a cat tree and a sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I  
didn't know she had it.  I adopted her the first weekend in June and  
took her to the vet a week later.  The receptionist at my vets was  
the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that  
the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea.  So for a  
week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 6  
stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5.

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year  
old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have  
known since June when she had a fever.  She has stabilized and is  
doing so well now.  Very healthy and playful.  She is a little  
squirt, i call her.  I have been looking for a home for her since  
I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  She  
is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it  
a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home?  
How is your cat doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are  
there different stages?  I am not sure totally about the disease as  
this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the  
leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)


From: April Johnson cupcake292...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update

Hi,

A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted  
from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I  
was questioning whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had  
her blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her  
results came in yesterday, it's in her bone marrow.  I still haven't  
decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house  
already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it  
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+  
cat, so I don't know what to do.


April

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Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI

2011-09-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I was thinking about that.  I haven't been following all of this, but  
with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago).  Some  
vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV  
cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub- 
q fluids at home.


My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that  
no more than that.  Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical  
reasons.  but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI  
or interferon or something.  Course as I recall, interferon alpha is  
more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon  
omega.




Gloria




On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote:


Marcia,

Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps  
tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she  
do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are?


He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak.  I'm  
so sorry he is such bad shape!!


In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the  
poor little guy to suffer.


Hugs~
Lynda
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI



Hi everyone
I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well.  I'm  
really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to  
the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105.  
Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting  
penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with  
it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles)  
which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on  
the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is  
fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off  
balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before.  
His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is  
permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the  
experts? (all of you)(-:


Thanks so much
Marcia

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On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per  
vial?

I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but
want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it.

Thanks
Kat

On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote:


Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a  
distributor in

Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor.




From: drsiebl...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI


Definitely try to get some LTCI.  We put dexter on it for the  
last few weeks
of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might  
have lived a
bit longer.  LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com 
 -
if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to  
the vet.  I
was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is  
possible
to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily.  
The other
up-side to this medication is that it is administered via sub- 
cutaneous
injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV  
injection. The
IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times more than  
a sub-q
injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever after  
each dose -
something he didn't need and quickly wore him out.  Tcyte can  
also slow the
inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer.  Many benefits  
with this
stuff.  Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are very  
helpful and

will give you all the info you need.

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On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com 


wrote:





Hi everyone
I really need some help.
fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he hides  
in the
basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his antibiotic  
because i
cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of his  
backbone and
his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as well. I  
don't know
what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He acts  
like the
base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he had  
never seen
such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, this  
amoxi isn't
working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to be a  
teensy bit of
improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day I  
took him to
the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should discuss  
with my
vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my poor  
little cat is
wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be doing  
for him

What do I 

Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI

2011-09-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hmmm.  Think blood work would add some insight into things like  
potassium, blood counts.  Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums  
are pink.  Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain?


How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly?

Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:

She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in  
the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did  
seem interested after reading through some of the data. She  
immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the  
end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk to  
them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the holiday. I  
think that they think he is too far gone. But how could it be that  
Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my legs,  
purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes  
no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how,  
when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just  
peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him.  
She also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums  
are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of  
methyl B12. It won't hurt!  She also told me to give him 81 mg of  
baby aspirin 2X a week.


Thanks you guys for listening(-:

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net  
wrote:
I was thinking about that.  I haven't been following all of this,  
but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago).   
Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick  
FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give  
him sub-q fluids at home.


My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but  
that no more than that.  Not sure why - for biological reasons or  
practical reasons.  but a transfusion might pump him up till he  
could get LTCI or interferon or something.  Course as I recall,  
interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not  
sure about interferon omega.




Gloria




On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote:


Marcia,

Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps  
tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did  
she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are?


He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak.   
I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!!


In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the  
poor little guy to suffer.


Hugs~
Lynda
- Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI



Hi everyone
I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well.  I'm  
really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to  
the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105.  
Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting  
penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with  
it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles)  
which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was  
on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick  
is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely  
off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day  
before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if  
this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions  
from the experts? (all of you)(-:


Thanks so much
Marcia

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per  
vial?
I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check  
but

want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it.

Thanks
Kat

On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote:


Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a  
distributor in

Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor.




From: drsiebl...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI


Definitely try to get some LTCI.  We put dexter on it for the  
last few weeks
of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might  
have lived a
bit longer.  LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com 
 -
if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication  
to the vet.  I
was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It  
is possible
to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it  
daily. The other
up-side to this medication is that it is administered via sub- 
cutaneous
injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV  
injection

Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI

2011-09-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Which liquid human B's?  I might like to get some - like from the drug  
store, etc?


Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote:


Gloria
I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's.  
So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since  
the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food.  
He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do  
have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him (and I  
don't mind). (-:


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net  
wrote:


Hmmm.  Think blood work would add some insight into things like  
potassium, blood counts.  Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his  
gums are pink.  Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's  
assuming pain?


How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins  
possibly?


Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:

She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in  
the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did  
seem interested after reading through some of the data. She  
immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the  
end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk  
to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the  
holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how could  
it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over  
my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over?  
That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on  
potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor  
or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and  
did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. His nose is  
very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did  
just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt!  She also told  
me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week.


Thanks you guys for listening(-:

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane  
gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
I was thinking about that.  I haven't been following all of this,  
but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time  
ago).  Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and  
help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can  
of course give him sub-q fluids at home.


My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but  
that no more than that.  Not sure why - for biological reasons or  
practical reasons.  but a transfusion might pump him up till he  
could get LTCI or interferon or something.  Course as I recall,  
interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not  
sure about interferon omega.




Gloria




On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote:


Marcia,

Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps  
tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did  
she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are?


He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak.   
I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!!


In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want  
the poor little guy to suffer.


Hugs~
Lynda
- Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI



Hi everyone
I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well.  I'm  
really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back  
to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over  
105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long  
lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't  
mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there  
(25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI  
and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked  
just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home  
he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't  
like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard  
for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial  
infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-:


Thanks so much
Marcia

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses  
per vial?
I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment  
check but

want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it.

Thanks
Kat

On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote:


Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a  
distributor in

Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor.




From: drsiebl...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI

Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI

2011-09-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane

OK Thanks - yup I like Twinlab.

Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Marcia wrote:

Super b complex by twinlab. I ordered from amazon. U can get a  
twinpack. Gmc also makes liquid b's with more b12 but not as wide a  
spectrum of the different b's. I just give the b12 separate. Cat  
dose is 1/10 of human dose.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net  
wrote:


Which liquid human B's?  I might like to get some - like from the  
drug store, etc?


Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Marcia wrote:


Gloria
I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's.  
So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since  
the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned  
food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids.  
But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him  
(and I don't mind). (-:


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Gloria B. Lane  
gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:


Hmmm.  Think blood work would add some insight into things like  
potassium, blood counts.  Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his  
gums are pink.  Not sure about the baby aspirin, maybe she's  
assuming pain?


How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins  
possibly?


Gloria



On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote:

She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference  
in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but  
did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She  
immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at  
the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even  
talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the  
holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how  
could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs  
all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling  
all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low  
on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain  
tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid  
there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic.  
His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I  
know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't  
hurt!  She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a  
week.


Thanks you guys for listening(-:

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net 
 wrote:
I was thinking about that.  I haven't been following all of  
this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long  
time ago).  Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try  
and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :)  
You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home.


My vet said that we could do a couple of blood  
transfusions, ,but that no more than that.  Not sure why - for  
biological reasons or practical reasons.  but a transfusion  
might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or  
something.  Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a  
preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega.




Gloria




On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote:


Marcia,

Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps  
tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI?  
Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts  
are?


He may have not cried all the way there because he is too  
weak.  I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!!


In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want  
the poor little guy to suffer.


Hugs~
Lynda
- Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI



Hi everyone
I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well.   
I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him  
back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of  
over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a  
long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most  
people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all  
the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her  
the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up  
when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said  
VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and  
couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His  
quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is  
permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions  
from the experts? (all of you)(-:


Thanks so much
Marcia

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com  
wrote:


Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses  
per vial?
I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX

2011-08-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Yup sounds weird, I'm curious too.  Sounds like maybe he's getting  
sick and anemic from the FELV, but you never know, could just have  
something simple.


Gloria


On Aug 21, 2011, at 4:59 AM, gary wrote:


Kelly,

Please contact me off list about this kitty.

I would love to know exactly what condition is treatable and what  
treatment would make him very infectious beyond being as  
infectious as he is now.


g
Gary

From: Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:31 PM
To: felvtalk
Cc: teeja...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX

Hey folks, got an emergency with a possible FELV+ cat in Austin,  
Texas.  He's had one snap test (and that's with the felv/fiv/ 
heartworm test, which we know there are a lot of false +s with).   
There is no one to hold him for a confirmatory IFA.


Someone wrote me asking for help, this is her description of him:

He is slated to be euthanized at 5pm today. This boy is very  
affectionate, loving to be held, petted, scratched, etc. He was even  
purring while being petted at the counter at the vet's office with  
all the strange scents and animal noises going on!


He's pretty sick at the moment. Vet says he's extremely anemic.  
That's why he hasn't been eating much. And the heat has exacerbated  
the problem since he's been an outdoor cat. Vet also says the  
condition is treatable, but the treatment makes him very infectious.  
So what he needs is an indoor home either in a one-cat household or  
in a house where all the cats are feline leukemia positive.


It's breaking my heart because he's such a sweetie. I'm hoping to  
find someone who can provide a home for this baby so he won't have  
to be euthanized.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a  
couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home  
is, and hopefully stay around.  Course this depends on your having the  
right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection,  
etc.


You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who  
will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she  
learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty  
was altered, unfortunately.


Good luck with your kitty -

Gloria



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Re: [Felvtalk] Defying the Odds

2011-08-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I just do not believe that FELV is that contagious. We know FIV isn't  
that contagious except thru deep bite wounds. I kind of think it's the  
same thing with FELV. I've had the same thing happen - had a kitty  
die, had a necropsy, and she had FELV/FIV.  None of the other cats got  
it. I knew she was FIV, but didn't know about the FELV.  Lived several  
years with those cats.


Gloria




dlgegg at windstream.net dlgegg at windstream.net
Fri Aug 12 17:04:43 CDT 2011
Maybe his immune system had improved since he first got FIV so he  
was abl to ward off the felv.

 Natalie atia2 at optonline.net wrote:
 That's one for the booksamazing!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 molveywda at hotmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 8:33 PM
 To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Defying the Odds

 Check this out - I have an FIV positive cat living with me.  He's  
an older
 gentleman that I took in a couple of years ago.  In March a two  
year old cat

 of mine died and that's when we discovered she had FeLV.  She tested
 negative as a kitten.  She and my FIV positive kitty lived  
together sharing
 food and water bowls and everything.  I think he used to groom her  
too when
 she was a kitten.  I had him, the FIV kitty, combo tested  
yesterday.  Can
 you believe that booger is negative for FeLV?  Talk about defying  
the odds.
 Doesn't make sense that an immune compromised kitty did not  
contract the
 disease.  You can't predict anything regarding this disease.  I  
just assumed

 he had gotten it from her.

 Just wanted to share my good but very confusing news.


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Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil

2011-04-27 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I live in Arkansas.  I know there are some quacks out there, but I  
always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative  
treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of  
that.  Wish there was more research into this area.  I've used a  
number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know  
who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help.  I sure hope your  
friend finds a way.  It's been a long time since I've looked into  
this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2.


Gloria




- Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil


My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted  
Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is  
now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide  
IV's.  Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer.


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[Felvtalk] Husband's Obiituary

2011-04-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks for posting, Terrie, what a lovely man, I appreciated reading  
the obituary.  My heart goes out to you.


Gloria




From: ter...@tazzys.org
Date: April 6, 2011 10:37:05 PM CDT
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband's Obiituary
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


Here is the main link to the paper I put my husband's obituary. Just  
click on the obit look for Bobby Forker it will only be online for  
30 days. In the local paper Thursday and Sunday.

There will be a photo of him. I hope it turns out alright.

http://www.heraldnet.com/



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Sultan, WA. 98294
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Non-Profit national rescue
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[Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being

2011-03-29 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Dear Terrie, I'm so sorry, so sad for what you're going through.  He  
sounds young to me.  Been thru hospice with a boyfriend several years  
ago. I hope there are some sweet moments in the times you share  
together. Thinking about you and sending all kinds of good thoughts  
and wishes.


Gloria




From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's  
illness. He

has
liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been
hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed  
into a

skill
nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to  
the

hospital.

He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped  
working.
Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he  
wants for

comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again.

I want to make myself available at all times for him.
He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old  
but it

isn't
really.
Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of  
this.

Hospice
is available to me 24 hours a day.

Sincerely,
Terrie

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Sultan, WA. 98294
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Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....

2011-03-22 Thread Gloria B. Lane
One thought process that I've run into is that a healthy adult cat  
(FELV negative) has a hearty enough immune system to successfully deal  
with the FELV virus without acquiring it.


I can't see that vaccinating them at this point would be of value.

Just my 2c

Gloria




From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
Date: March 21, 2011 12:07:44 PM CDT
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org



I've mentioned my kitty Two Face earlier because she died two weeks  
ago and when they did the necropsy they found out she had a huge  
tumor and was FeLV +.  Since then I've had a few of my other kitties  
tested with the combo/snap test at the vet's office.  All have come  
out negative so far, thank the Lord for that.  These other kitties  
that have tested negative lived with Two Face for over a year.   
Sharing litterboxes, food bowls and all that stuff.  I would think  
that would mean that they had enough exposure to the virus to get it  
in their system and that they either extinguished the virus or put  
it into a dormant status.  Is that a reasonable assumption?  My main  
question now is should I give them a FeLV vaccination.  If they did  
get the virus in their system and extinguished it then they're  
immune for life, right?  If so, there's no need for a vaccination.   
Is it possible with all that exposure that they didn't get enough of  
the virus into their system to do any harm?  If that's the case then  
I should vaccinate them?  I just don't know how they could not have  
gotten enough exposure since they lived together and shared  
everything for over a year.


Thoughts?


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results  
that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it  
inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward  
it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without  
looking further.” – Mark Twain

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[Felvtalk] Please add ChooChoo to the bridge list

2011-03-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Please add ChooChoo to the bridge list. She died on March 19. She was  
a Russian blue (with white) FELV kitty that I found at a farm in east  
Arkansas, in 2008. Moved her to my home in Little Rock, and found out  
she was FELV positive.  She was a friendly kitty, had a mind of her  
own, seemed to enjoy life here. She may have been 6 mo to 1 yr old at  
the time of rescue.   This puts her in the neighborhood of 3 yrs old,  
which is about when I often lose my FELV cats, if they had the virus  
as a kitten. I hadn't seen any signs of real illness, but she had been  
a little more subdued for a couple of days.  Sleep soft sweet ChooChoo.


Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport

2011-03-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Where they going, Kelley?


On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote:


Here's another one: http://operationroger.rescuegroups.org/



-Original Message-
From: Kelley Saveika [mailto:moonv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:59 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport

Hi there,

Does anyone know anything about transport?  I am trying to get these 2
FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no
one has yet).  I do not know the first thing about it.  Often our
adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and
time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill  
FELV+

cats first.

--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Please help Trooper!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper


And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers  
they

can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that
they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.

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[Felvtalk] MaryChristine

2011-03-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Just fyi, for those who know MaryChristine  - she had heart bypass  
surgery on Monday, over yonder in New York State.  The update from a  
friend of hers says that she's out of intensive care, now in a regular  
room, and doing well.


Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........

2011-02-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
You know, mine have very rarely needed dental work. I've had many cats  
and only 1 hyperthyroid, and he's 22 - not adoptable anyhow.  Go figure.


Gloria


On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

When I say senior I'm talking about cats in the 10-15 year age range  
and it seems they invariably need dental work when they come into  
rescue.  We also always do full blood panels for anyone over 8 years  
of age.  We don't want to risk adopting out a cat who is  
hyperthyroid or diabetic or in renal failure to someone who just is  
not prepared to deal with that.  Dealing with these things before  
listing for adoption has made all the difference in the world in  
finding good homes for cats past 8-10 years of age.


--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:


From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 6:56 PM
We provide the same vet care to all
adult cats regardless of the age. I don't find the seniors
to cost more, but of course most folks don't want to adopt a
pet that has a clearly limited short lifespan.

Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:54 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
wrote:


Oh?  Is this a nation-wide requirement or certain

areas? And for

senior animals only? I never heard that in my neck of

the woods and

have rescued and found homes for many dogs and several

cats.  Of

course, they are usually younger and are always fully

vetted before I

take them out for Adoption Days but.

Dental required?  I have never done dental stuff

for any of my

animals.I occasionally brush dogs teeth if they

have tartar but

make sure they eat and chew the right stuff so that

isn't a problem.

Cats the same.  Never had an animal that had a

bad tooth needing

extraction and I have had a boat load of

animals.  Am I missing

something?  Where are these requirements in

place?  And just for older

animals?

My one senior kitty has a senior blood panel once a

year.  All the

rest who aren't positives have std vaccinations

including for FeLV

annually.

This gets more and more difficult when all you want to

do is love them

and let them live out their lives in happiness and

peace.


K

On 2/28/11, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com

wrote:

What makes the $500/$1000 inadequate is that, from

a rescue standpoint,

older animals have to be fully vetted before they

can be listed for

adoption.  That includes dental which is so

expensive.  Adopters are

reluctant to take on older or special needs

animals because they are afraid

of the cost.  Now, if the animals are current

on cleanings and extractions

and have recent senior blood panels then that

makes all the difference.


--- On Mon, 2/28/11, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com

wrote:



From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for

cats

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 1:35 PM
Some great ideas/questions!
Thank you all and keep them coming.

Right now I am on unemployment and will

eventually start

receiving a
small retirement amt each month that will

barely pay the

mortgage and
food so realizing the $500/$1000 was so

totally inadequate

- which I
should have known - was a set back I will have

to deal

with.  I guess
I was thinking it would be a bridge until the

care-taker

could find
forever homes for them.  That, of course,

leads to

another concern
about how to be sure the care-taker could be

trusted to

find good
homes..

Not sure about those on-line fund raising

sites someone

suggested..beg for money?  I don't

think I would

give money to a
stranger on line with no real info as to where

it will

really go so
why would I expect anyone else to do so?

Sounds

strange.

I like the idea of someone moving into house

but who would

oversee
that person to make sure the animals are

receiving the care

they
should? My few remaining relatives live many

states away

and are
within a few years of my age or older. What

happens to the

person/house after the animals alive at the

time of my

death are no
longer living? Maybe as part of the will the

house and

property could
revert to a rescue site?  Yikes!

How to do that

with zoning laws and
all And I would have to be sure the

house could be

paid for at
my death ARGHH...

I wish I knew a way to find an attorney I

could trust to be

familiar
with these types of situations AND share my

love for these

furry kids.
Maybe listed in the yellow pages under

Attorneys - Animal

Trusts???
or something?  ;-)  And would be

willing and able

to do it without
charging an arm and a leg.  Sigh.

So much to think about.

Keep the ideas coming.. And thank you all.

Kat

On 2/26/11, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
wrote:

I'm so glad my family knows how important


Re: [Felvtalk] Scrappy Angel over the Rainbow Bridge today

2011-02-24 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'm so sorry, Paola, I know how it is.  All our bridge children are  
there with him, showing him the way.


Gloria



On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:26 PM, paola cresti wrote:

My little Scrappy boy was coming to the end of his fight, I only had  
him  for 8
months when he walked into my home and was already in bad condition,  
hence the
Scrappy name, I didn't think he was going to live 1 month. at that  
time.
Though I should have named him Angel for all the love he gave me,  
he'd started

responding to Scrappy so I kept calling him that.

I've had plenty of cats in my lifetime, not often do they care for  
face to face
contact with people, but he'd look straight into my eyes lean  
forward and rub
his cheek on mine, even placing his paws on my chest to stabilize  
himself when
reaching for me (sometimes I wouldn't realize right away what he was  
doing).


The vet said he was 8 years old, so he must have contracted FeLV as  
an adult.


He'd stopped eating, had labored breathing and had taken to hiding.  
His sunken
eyes lost any indication of light and so we stopped any more  
injections or

treatments and I had to have him laid to rest today.

Thank you for reading, and for all the information and support I got  
from this

mail-list

Paola
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

2011-02-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have to say, that's impressive, to have a help desk at the humane  
society..


Gloria
in Arkansas



On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote:

you can contact the Nevada humane society at 775-856-2000 and ask  
for the help desk  they can contact volunteers that might help in  
Nevada and close in to the state


Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary


From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

MIchael,

We have 3 kittens needing to go from Austin to Reno.  We have  
someone to
drive the first leg.  What we need is someone to help us coordinate  
the rest

of the legs and possibly teach me in the process.

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Second Chance Meows 
secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote:


what can i help you with?

Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary


From: Jenine jenmarac...@gbis.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc:
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

Michael,

They will be coming here to Reno.  Have been meaning to contact you
anyway, so this may be the right time.  Feel free to email me.
jenmarac...@gbis.com

Jenine



On 2/18/2011 5:31 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote:

where in Nevada do they need to go?

 Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary


From: Kelley Saveikamoonv...@gmail.com
To: felvtalkFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc:
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?

We have the 3 FELV+ kittens here (Austin) needing to go to Nevada  
with as
little stress as possible.  I have no experience at all in this  
area;

however, we do have a person willing to drive the first leg.  Anyone
experienced with transport who can help?




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Re: [Felvtalk] Peroxide therapy

2011-02-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Another possibility - a stroke.  Good luck to him and you!

Gloria



On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Natalie wrote:

That's why our shelter is at our house; they are home with us...we  
get
covered with cats taking turns on our laps, sometimes there are  
three or

four.
I found out yesterday that one of our healthy cats was acting  
strangely and
was taken to the vet. He's a very tame and sweet cat, but when he  
gets to
the vet, he's the incredible hulk!  Last time, I couldn't hold him  
down with
my whole body weight for the vet just to look into his mouth.  He  
was blind
yesterday morning, stumbled aroundby evening, at the hospital,  
he could

see again...blood work will be back today and he may have a brain
inflammation (original diagnosis).
If I won the sweepstakes, I'd get a huge farm, with houses and  
sections for

different animals on it - all saved from deathrow..

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peroxide therapy

I don't know how you handle working in a shelter.  It is so hard  
when one of
my babies dies, but fortunately that is not too often.  I would also  
want to
take them all home with me.  Finances prevent that so I guess I  
would just
have to move into the shellter so I could be with them all the  
time.  My
pride does not have too many spats, but most of them occur when I  
sit down.
Everyone wants lap privileges. Of course, if I won the sweepstakes,  
then I
could buy a lot of land, build a large house and take them all.  But  
with my
luck I don't think that will happen.  Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com 


wrote:

I'd really like to know about this. We lost one of our FelV girls
this weekend.  Her name was Mimi, but I always called her Meem.
She was the first to greet me when I'd go to my no-kill cageless
shelter. She was in our FelV room, and she was a sweet, gentle
little lady  We miss her very much.

Lorrie

On 02-15, Natalie wrote:

I am so sorry to hear about all the little ones that have died!
I am reading something very interesting that may help all of our  
FeLV

cats.
Hydrogen-peroxide therapy - any form of cancer dies in oxygen. I  
know

the
exact dosages for humans, but must do some research on what to do  
for
FeLV/FIV positive cats...it apparently acts the same way as  
interferon
(creates oxygen), but without the side effects. I am anxious to  
get all

the
info and try it on my two guys as soon as we get back from Mexico  
- BTW

-
it's freezing here at night, days aren't too warm, either, but we  
have

plenty of sunshine!
Natalie



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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV + kitten needs help

2011-02-14 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Maybe I missed it - what is the location?


On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:19 AM, TANYA NOE wrote:


Hello everyone,
A girl I know rescued an approximately 18-22 week old kitten  
from a high kill shelters euthanasia list recently. The kitten has  
some corneal scarring but appears to still be able to see it also is  
FeLV +. It is a black and white female. She is very friendly, loves  
to cuddle and uses her litter box well.
The girls family won't let her keep it because of the FeLV. We  
have had many talks about it but the family is still too concerned  
that their 3 year old cat will get sick. She can no longer keep this  
sweet girl and is scared to death at the idea of having to take it  
back to the shelter. We all know how many people in this world  
perceive out little FeLV babies.
I posted a message last week with a picture but it was too large  
and I was told a moderator would look at it and either let it go  
through or message me why it had not. I never heard back on it so I  
am sending out this plea... Is there anyone out there who would be  
willing to take this sweet little girl and give her a home? She has  
been to the vet and appears to be otherwise healthy other than the  
FeLV and corneal scarring.
If anyone is interested, please send me an email at sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com 
 and I will send you pictures of her, she is super cute. Please,  
there has got to be someone out there who has the space and love for  
this little honey who has been given this 2nd chance.


Thanks everyone,
I pray for good news from someone who will get the opportunity to  
spend many happy years with this little angel!


Tanya




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[Felvtalk] FELV cat in Takoma Park, MD, suburbs of Washington, DC

2011-01-26 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I saw this on Facebook, and am so impressed that the Takoma Park  
Clinic (outside of Washington, DC, in Maryland) is helping an FELV  
cat.  The Takoma Park Clinic is at 7330 Carroll Ave, in Takoma Park,  
phone 301-270-4700.



Meet Bandit! He is hoping that we can help him to find his forever  
home!! Bandit was left at the clinic two weeks ago. We have since  
neutered and vaccinated him. His is FELV Pos and has lost one of his  
eyes. However, I don't think that there is a happier, more loving cat  
out there! He will need to be eithr in a home as the only cat or in a  
home with another FELV Pos cat. Please help find bandit the home that  
he deserves!!



Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have to say, while our monthly clinic vet does pediatric spay/ 
neuter, I wouldn't trust every one to do it, and I understand the term  
chop shops. Compared with other local clinics, I think we do batter  
aftercare for cats in recovery than any of the others and that's so  
important.  Can't just put them in a cage or carrier after surgery,  
and leave them.  Fortunately we have a good system, and we all trust  
our vet, who is good with pediatric s/n, and he's also fast - amazing  
to watch him versus some of the other vets.  Knowing the vet and  
trusting are so important.  Otherwise I'd wait a while too.


Gloria



On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:

I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I  
haven't.  The
local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops)  
will do
them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be  
spayed

and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a
botched spay - never again.  Our current vet does them at 6 months  
because

his concern is the health of each individual animal - and I like that.

We have never had anyone get pregnant.

If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to adopt, which means  
we
still own the animal and they are fostering.  It works if you can  
keep up

with it.  We never transfer ownership on an unaltered animal.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com  
wrote:



Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.


On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and  
from

what

I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I

can't

blame him.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Good news

2010-12-25 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hi Kerry, I remember you from way back.  So glad to see you out there  
and hear your story.  I think I took in my first FELV cats in 2001  -  
Mr. Black Kitty and Calawalla Banana Booboo.  Mr. Black Kitty was a  
double positive, and lived about a year.  He was SOO skinny, but  
an energetic, sweet kitty.  Calawalla was a calico kitten, maybe 6 mo  
old or so.  I kept them in my living room, and one of the first things  
I did was put tape on the bottom of the door so that they couldn't  
sniff noses with my other cats.  My vet told me that wasn't necessary  
- the virus only lived a few seconds when it hit the air, and was very  
fragile.


I fortunately found this group, and read up on FELV and learned more.   
So within a couple of years, I decided that for me, it was time to mix  
the FELVs with the other cats, and have been doing that ever since.   
Calawalla died when she was about 2 yrs old.   I had acquired another  
FELV for her - MIttens - who died died a little later.  I sometimes  
wonder what subgroup/strain they were, and what my present FELV's  
are.  I've got a great picture of them on a bed with my non-FELV,  
Shakespeare, just chillin and looking great.


Anyhow, great to hear from you - Happy Holidays to you, Kerry, sending  
love and hugs back at ya -


Gloria






On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Kerry MacKenzie wrote:


Dear all
It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this  
amazing,
wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my  
best
Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral  
colony of 4
kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for  
a disease
called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I  
should say, we
didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name  
as she was
the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her  
as she'd
already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of  
them.)

Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg.
Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to  
the

disease, 2 on the same day.
A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining  
cats, Momcat and
Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7,  
respectively.

Still resolutely feral, but healthy!
Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a  
5-week
calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue  
group said

they would re-test in 3 months.
The lab people said: Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change  
the result.
One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is  
pointless.
The rescue group disregarded the advice and earlier this month I  
took her for

a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative!
Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news.
I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my  
personal experience
with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives  
but remained
neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained  
positive
and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too-- 
and both times
I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my  
personal

decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing.

Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the  
kitties in your

care.
love and hugs and happy holidays.
Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me  
so much in
their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to  
Belinda and the
Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and  
foster mom to

Sally.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about Interferon

2010-12-10 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've never had a cat that had a problem with interferon - but I'm  
assuming you mean interferon alpha, not omega (which I've never  
used).  I used daily interferon (1cc)


Another protocol is 3 days on, 3 off, as well as the one you used, 7  
days on and 7 off.


Tally used to be on this list, and I used her web site for interferon  
info - http://www.tallyville.com/interferon.html


Gloria



On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Sharon Fazio wrote:


Hi Brenda,

At this time my kitten is tolerating the interferon.  It is my  
understanding
from my vet that some cats do have side effects with the   
interferon. When
we put Kelsea on the interferon it was the right thing to do, she  
was very
sick kitten. I have to say I am very glad I did.  I'm not sure if I  
mention
in pass emails that Kelsea is on the interferon for 7 days then off  
for the

next 7 days, she only get 1 cc at night.

Let me know what you decide to do.  My thoughts are with you and Eden.

Sharon

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:59 AM, brenda_osbou...@hotmail.com wrote:



Many of you have said that you are using interferon to treat your  
FeLV cats
and I'm trying to decide if we should start Eden on this as well.  
Nobody has

mentioned any side effects from the treatment but I work with cancer
patients and I've seen many patients treated with interferon and it  
is not
well tolerated at all. In fact it is a treatment that is plagued  
with many
serious side effects and in many cases the side effects are much  
worse then
the symptoms of the patient's actual disease. So I'm wondering if  
the cats
being treated are experiencing side effects or if the dose is so  
low in cats

that the side effects aren't a problem.

Thanks,
Brenda


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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2010-12-10 Thread Gloria B. Lane
A friend of mine has an FELV cat (along with another non FELV cat;  
they're buddies).  She's had the FELV kitty on interferon alpha for  
several years - kitty has done extremely well.


Gloria



On Dec 10, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Andy Domek wrote:



Aggie has had interferon every day of her life since I've had her  
(for 6 and a half years) and has had no noticeable side effects.   
But--she is still alive and happy, so I suppose you could consider  
that a side-effect.   Might also be chalked up to good luck, but  
I'm sure the Interferon hasn't hurt her.   		 	   		

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Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'd also like to put in a plug for Zithromax and Convenia.  Zithromax  
- I buy it dry, divide it into 3rds, and mix a 3rd at a time.  
Sometimes 1 day 1 dose will do the trick, especially for kittens.


We've also had miraculous results with Convenia too, but you get the  
vet to give an injection of that.  Some vets aren't into these  
antibiotics - they just use the same old stuff - Amoxi, Clavamox,  
Clindamycin, which are good - but the newer ones can be extremely  
helpful.


You can also use Little Noses 4 hour drops (the nose drops, not the  
saline)  - I'm trying to remember the name of the other drops I've  
used, can't recall it.  But only the 4 hour ones.  I've put on a q-tip  
and squished against the nose, and can be helpful.  Anybody else know  
about nose drops?  Maybe some of the messages I haven't read yet.


If  the cause of the congestion is related to Herpes, of course, you'd  
want to use Lysine orally, which is otc.


Not sure what the homeopathic remedy would be...hmmm.

I've been using a humidifier in my house on cold nights, because of  
the dryness to noses.


Best of luck,

Gloria


On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a  
heavier duty antibiotic.  What antibiotic was already given?  I  
swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia  
antibiotic injection.


--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote:


From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM
As I wrote in my previous post on
mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested.  The
vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory
medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am
having trouble getting them into him.  I have very
limited access to medications or natural remedies unless
they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients.
I read something about saline drops or using children's
Afrin.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you,
Melinda and VooDoo


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Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
just wanted to say also, maybe you could call the front desk at your  
vet, and find out EXACTLY what meds were giving to your kitty... it's  
good to know that.


Gloria


On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

I'd also like to put in a plug for Zithromax and Convenia.   
Zithromax - I buy it dry, divide it into 3rds, and mix a 3rd at a  
time. Sometimes 1 day 1 dose will do the trick, especially for  
kittens.


We've also had miraculous results with Convenia too, but you get the  
vet to give an injection of that.  Some vets aren't into these  
antibiotics - they just use the same old stuff - Amoxi, Clavamox,  
Clindamycin, which are good - but the newer ones can be extremely  
helpful.


You can also use Little Noses 4 hour drops (the nose drops, not the  
saline)  - I'm trying to remember the name of the other drops I've  
used, can't recall it.  But only the 4 hour ones.  I've put on a q- 
tip and squished against the nose, and can be helpful.  Anybody else  
know about nose drops?  Maybe some of the messages I haven't read yet.


If  the cause of the congestion is related to Herpes, of course,  
you'd want to use Lysine orally, which is otc.


Not sure what the homeopathic remedy would be...hmmm.

I've been using a humidifier in my house on cold nights, because of  
the dryness to noses.


Best of luck,

Gloria


On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a  
heavier duty antibiotic.  What antibiotic was already given?  I  
swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the  
Convenia antibiotic injection.


--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote:


From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM
As I wrote in my previous post on
mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested.  The
vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory
medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am
having trouble getting them into him.  I have very
limited access to medications or natural remedies unless
they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients.
I read something about saline drops or using children's
Afrin.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you,
Melinda and VooDoo


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems,  
it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp  
that thinks it doesn't matter.  I've seen articles about this but  
sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are  
going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not.


Gloria



On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback.  It is  
definitely helpful
and encouraging.  For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is  
Magic and she
is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis.  I have  
three other
cats.  Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they  
were
kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter.   
My biggest
concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2.  She has only  
received her rabies
shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to  
her vaccines
when she was a kitten.  Since she is an indoor cat, the vet  
recommended against

further vaccines many years ago.

The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after  
vaccinating
also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as  
easily from cat
to cat as we might be led to believe.  She told me that it generally  
takes
prolonged consistent contact to be passed.  My FELV+ kitten is  
currently
separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned  
about
accidental exposure to my negative cats.  She also emphasized that  
it does not

survive long in normal household conditions.

I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or  
Friday.  My
husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if  
possible.  I'm still

on the fence.

Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective.   
It definitely

helps.

Thanks,
Stephanie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems,  
it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp  
that thinks it doesn't matter.  I've seen articles about this but  
sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are  
going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not.


Gloria



On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback.  It is  
definitely helpful
and encouraging.  For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is  
Magic and she
is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis.  I have  
three other
cats.  Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they  
were
kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter.   
My biggest
concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2.  She has only  
received her rabies
shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to  
her vaccines
when she was a kitten.  Since she is an indoor cat, the vet  
recommended against

further vaccines many years ago.

The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after  
vaccinating
also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as  
easily from cat
to cat as we might be led to believe.  She told me that it generally  
takes
prolonged consistent contact to be passed.  My FELV+ kitten is  
currently
separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned  
about
accidental exposure to my negative cats.  She also emphasized that  
it does not

survive long in normal household conditions.

I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or  
Friday.  My
husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if  
possible.  I'm still

on the fence.

Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective.   
It definitely

helps.

Thanks,
Stephanie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Since all your other cats are negative, I would not hesitate to start  
a process of integrating into the household. I assume you're asking  
since you once had an FELV positive at one time, but as I understand  
that virus is very fragile and doesn't survive long outside the body.


Gloria



On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote:

About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on  
Felv. She
went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week  
later.

She was suffering!
We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested  
the same
day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living  
with

Oreo for almost a year!
To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while.

The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday  
evening. Found
him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided  
to take

him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold.
He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest.
My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have  
him
tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and  
integrate into

the group in about 2 weeks.
Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small  
chance that

there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing!

We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it  
appears to

be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Rabies may be not be required by law for indoor cats, depending on  
your local.  Even so, they're not going to come in your house to check  
on your house cats.   For FELV, I've read quite a bit that healthy  
adult cats have a good immunity to it whether they're vaccinated or not.


Gloria


On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

Thanks Everyone.  I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended  
over
vaccinating.  Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in  
our state,
we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and  
prior) as they
are indoor cats only.  It's part of the struggle with figuring out  
what to do.



Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't  
opening as much
as the other one.  So we need to keep a watch on that for her as  
I've also heard

treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life.

Thanks again.
Stephanie



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[Felvtalk] OT: 2 cats that desperately need a home

2010-12-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane
This is off topic, not FELV.  We recently got this from a lady in New  
Jersey, near Manhattan.  Our rescue is in Little Rock Arkansas.  Any  
of you folks in the north east know of a way to help?


Thanks very much,

Gloria


Begin forwarded message:


From: Lindsay Mariconda lindsaymarico...@yahoo.com
Date: December 7, 2010 11:48:56 AM CST
To: savea...@teamfurr.org savea...@teamfurr.org
Subject: 2 cats that desperately need a home

Hi, my name is Lindsay Mariconda and I am in an extremely difficult  
situation right now concerning my 2 cats. I was referred to your  
organization by a friend who thought it would be helpful.
I recently had to move on very short notice to an apartment that  
will not allow cats. I have a 10 year old named Porkchop and a 3  
year old named Cookie that need a home asap. I live in Belleville,  
NJ and all of the no-kill shelters in and around this area are  
already overflowing with cats. And I don't want to place them in a  
non-no kill shelter. I am running out of options and time for my  
little ones.

Any assistance or advice would be greatly appreciated in this matter.

Thank You,
Lindsay Mariconda

P.S. I have pictures of them both I can send if needed.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Re: Spanky - fluid in chest - mediastinaltumor in chest

2010-11-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
That's very interesting.  Reminds me that there's a Wisconsin  
protocol, which alternates traditional chemo drugs. I noticed it after  
one of my FELV kitties, Mittens, was on Vincristine and prednisone. It  
extended his life, I think, but only a few months.


The link I find is 
http://www.maxshouse.com/Oncology/feline_lymphoma_and_leukemias.htm

Gloria



On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Melinda Kerr wrote:


   Stacy,

I am not certain of the exact protocol.  At one time I had it, but  
have long since lost it.  I am in Japan and the American base vet  
cannot obtain the cancer medications.  My Japanese vet has been very  
attentive and so far everything he has done has been successful.  In  
the beginning he made me wait 10-14 days between treatments in order  
to allow her body to recover from the strong medicine.  He does  
seem surprised that she recovered so quickly the first time and I am  
sure will be amazed once again when he sees the results of his  
second round.  Unfortunately, I don't know what he used this last  
time.


She received the following five treatments.  All extremely strong  
drugs!


  Oncovin- 1st treatment

Cyclophosphamide- 2nd treatment
Doxorubicin- 3rd treatment
Oncovin- 4th treatment

  Doxorubicin- 5th treatment


All of this with 10mg of Prednisone per day. (We have since cut  
the Prednisone down to 5mg per day. )


I envy your access to an oncologist.  Whatever is recommended, I'm  
sure will be your best bet!


Thanks for the good wishes.

Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo


On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote:


Hi Melinda:

I am sorry about Fuji's mass but so happy she responded to chemo.  
What chemo did you give her? I recently joined the lymphoma list  
and for Spanky's type of mass (that has yet to be confirmed by  
biopsy) many have success with prednisoline and leukeran and some  
are using ac-11 to boost the white blood cells. I have a call into  
his oncologist/internal med specialist to see what she thinks about  
putting him on the leukeran. He is doing well on the pred - eating  
better and even ran up the stairs today which he hasn't done in  
many weeks.
Purraying your Fuji continues to do well and thank you for sharing  
her story and success.

Stacy and Spanky


Message: 5
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:11:24 +0900
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Stacy,

My
kitty Fuji is almost 18 months old.  In July, she was diagnosed with
FeLV and a mediastinal mass.  Very little effort was spent diagnosing
her, but the final conclusion was lymphoma because of the presence of
FeLV.  At that time, all I wanted was to make her more comfortable.
She responded immediately to the chemotherapy treatment that she
received.  She continued to receive 4 more treatments at 10+ day
intervals over the next couple of months.  During that time she  
showed

absolutely no side affects. The treatments were discontinued because
her WBC count was too low (because of the FeLV) for our Japanese  
vet to
feel he could safely do them considering the mass was completely  
gone.


Since
her last treatment in September, she has had two rounds of  
antibiotics
for minor infections (I took her in for sneezing the first time.)   
Last

week, I took her in with vomiting and discovered the mass had
returned.  Second remissions are supposed to be extremely hard to
obtain.  However, Fuji responded immediately once again to the
treatment.   A week later, she eats, plays, purrs and does everything
she did before.  She definitely acts like a more mature cat, but of
course she is.  We will follow up next week with additional blood  
tests

to see if she can get a second treatment.

I know every cat is
different, but I never expected to have 4+ more months with my baby.
She is still alive and doing pretty good for an FeLV cat with  
lymphoma!


Best of luck to you and Spanky.

Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo


On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote:


Hi Sharyl:
Thanks to  you and everyone on this list for your replies and  
purrayers. .
I'm so sorry about your sweet Albert but glad you had the 1.5  
years with him.




It's been quite a week for us - Spanky went to his vet, then the
internal med specialist/oncologist and was diagnosed with a  
mediastinal

tumor in his chest, thus the fluids. My vets too said a few days only
if I didn't do something. So I put him on prednisolone for now and  
may

do a stronger round of something to try to kill the tumor. But I know
it is dicey with his FELV + status/symptoms.   I can't even think
straight...but have to try to keep helping him.  He made it  
through

Thanksgiving and we are taking it one day (one hour!) at a time.

Purrs,
Stacy and Spanky



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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:49:46 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky - fluid 

Re: [Felvtalk] another passing

2010-11-27 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I'm so sorry Michael - sleep soft sweet Queen Lita, 18 years old.

Gloria



On Nov 27, 2010, at 1:24 AM, Second Chance Meows wrote:

tonight we lost our queen, Lita. our very first FeLV cat, she was 18  
yrs old.
Lita started out as Pink at the SPCA. she was the house cat there  
for a few
years, and was given to me after finding out that my chemo had  
failed and what i
had would eventually kill me. This huge torte was a pissy old girl  
and would
hiss at everything. she at her best was about 20 lbs of pure joy.  
she would come
up to you and head butt you to get petted, and then jump in your lap  
and just

lay there.
Lita died at home surrounded by those who loved her, laying on my  
daughters

jacket with her by her side petting her to the end
Lita had been with us for 8 long years and had been treated for  
everything from
Uri's to arthritis, to the starting of a feline form of glaucoma,  
but she held

on and fought for all this time finally giving in to liver failure.

Safe travels across the bridge Lita. you will be missed. thank you  
for making

Second Chance possible

I know i don't send a lot of things here but we here at Second  
Chance try to do
the best we can while running a full house. Please remember that the  
smaller
rescues and homes like us do this from our own pockets. Please help  
the smaller
sanctuaries like ours continue to give love and hope to our furry  
families.


http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser


Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
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A FeLV Sanctuary




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Re: [Felvtalk] My Nephew's FeLV Kitten

2010-11-27 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Hi MaryAnne,

I'm not as up on the current treatments as others, but have had FELV  
cats and been on the list for quite a few years, so thought I'd share  
some current thoughts and issues.


I've have tried different things with mine, both eastern and western  
medicine. I've used interferon alpha, really believed in that, and  
used it daily, not on and off. The herbal, Astragalus, certainly is an  
easy thing to try, and I wouldn't hesitate to talk with an alternative  
practitioner and try it.


Vitamin C is also a possibility, and I'm interested in LTCI though  
have not used it. The first FELV kitty I took in, I pulled out all the  
stops and tried traditional vet care, acupuncture, herbs, interferon,  
practitioner outside the USA, etc.  I do recommend interferon, have  
used interferon alpha quite a bit, although some say the omega would  
be better.


I've lost quite a few FELV kitties, and now have 5.  But for some  
reason, the ones I have now, have no problems.   But these kitties  
just live with no problems - go on and on.  I have 1 year and a half  
old kitty, Izzie, has seizures also - I used a homeopathic remedy  
recommended by an alternative practitioner, helped a lot but my kitty  
(Izzie) still has occasional seizures.


Keep in mind that the combo (Elisa) test - detects (I think) the virus  
in the blood, and possibly the bone marrow (1st stage, primary  
viremia).  The IFA test tells if the virus is in the bone marrow (2nd  
stage, secondary viremia).  A positive result on the Elisa means that  
kitty has the virus in the blood and it's unknown about the bone  
marrow.  A positive result on the the IFA apparently means it's a  
permanent infection - in blood and bone marrow.  I've read that cats  
can stay at the 1st stage for life, and don't necessarily go to stage  
two...but I don't know much about that.  I'm wondering if some of my  
present cats have it in the blood but hasn't gotten to the bone marrow.


The text that follows is from the Cornell brochure (not that I believe  
everything from Cornell but this seems to help clarify the tests).   
From http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html -


I understand there are two stages of FeLV infection. What are they?
FeLV is present in the blood (a condition called viremia) during two  
different stages of infection:


Primary viremia, an early stage of virus infection. During this stage  
some cats are able to mount an effective immune response, eliminate  
the virus from the bloodstream, and halt progression to the secondary  
viremia stage.


Secondary viremia, a later stage characterized by persistent infection  
of the bone marrow and other tissue. If FeLV infection progresses to  
this stage it has passed a point of no return: the overwhelming  
majority of cats with secondary viremia will be infected for the  
remainder of their lives.


How is infection diagnosed?
Two types of FeLV blood tests are in common use. Both detect a protein  
component of the virus as it circulates in the bloodstream.


ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay) and similar tests can be  
performed in your veterinarian's office. ELISA-type tests detect both  
primary and secondary stages of viremia.


IFA (indirect immunofluorescent antibody assay) tests must be sent out  
to a diagnostic laboratory. IFA tests detect secondary viremia only,  
so the majority of positive-testing cats remain infected for life.



Hope this helps in some way - Best of luck,

Gloria




On Nov 27, 2010, at 3:46 PM, marasm...@aol.com wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I joined the Group in order to learn as much as I could about FeLV  
because
my nephew has recently adopted an FeLV kitten. I have already  
learned so
much  from the research and resources available through this group.  
I find it
so  valuable and am greatly appreciative of all of you who have made  
this

organization's resources available to some of us Newbies.

I could really use some specific help:

1. Does anyone know of a great Vet in NYC who is knowledgeable and  
skilled
at treating FeLV? I was hoping for someone who combines Eastern and  
Western

medicine.

2. Are there any of the experimental drugs that are on the web  
site's list

that some of you have used that you think are helpful?

3. We have an excellent Chinese Herbalist doc outside of the city  
who  has

helped me with my other pets. Does it make sense to try herbs, such as
astragulus for the immune system under this doc's management?

4. I read the archived info. on LTCI and am aware of all of the  
issues.

But, has anyone had any recent success with it?

I am extremely frustrated with so many of my Vets who just throw up  
their
hands and say very little can be done.  Maybe that's true, but at  
least I
can try to help with food, supplements, etc. along with any meds.  
that might

help. This whole situation breaks my heart.

Whatever ideas, help or support any of you can provide, please know  
that I

will be extremely appreciative!

Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic

2010-11-22 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I luv Stonyfield Farms products :)

Gloria



On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Beth wrote:

I always give my cats a pro-biotic with clavamox such as Stoneyfield  
Farms plain yogurt.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:

From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
To: Feline Leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:30 PM

That's been my experience often w Clavamox.



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On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:56 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

Clavamox put Bob into full diaherrea.  he was miserable and we had  
a few messes when he could not make it to the box.  this was from  
emergency vet on a Sunday night.  got another that was easier on  
him, but he passed at the end of that week.  thought about an  
autopsy, but decided not to cause him any more abuse.  buried him  
in my 3rd plot in a flower garden.  i have 4 gardens with buriel  
plots in them.  only plant shallow rooted things there.  then Homie  
came down with crystals and urinary tract infection so we gave her  
a shot that lasts 2 weks and does not cause so much discomfort.   
also gave her herbal pill from Only Natural Pet Store.  at the end  
of 30 days on the pill she is free of crystals and infection.  lost  
the envelope they came in, but developed by a Chinese dr and has as  
first ingredient dendrobium.  i was desperate for something to get  
rid of the crystals.  she was retaining urine and would not eat the  
special foods by Hill's
and Purina for this problem.  she got lethargic, wouldn't eat or  
drink much and was trying to go all over the house.  after a couple  
of days on this pill, she started on recovery and by the end of the  
first week was almost back to normal which is a pain in the ---.
she delights in tormenting Annie and Nitnoy by sitting there and  
staring at them.  now i am laying in a supply of Feliway.  I  
hesitated to get this, is expensive and only had reviews by people  
who had tried it to go on, but as bad as she was, i figured i had  
nothing to loose.

 Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
Clavamox can be kind of hard on the digestive track sometime.  I  
know nothing about neoplasene salve. I dint know, i might try some  
other abx, if it were me, like amoxicillin or azithromycin .


Gloria

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On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com  
wrote:



Hi:

Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy  
more than normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him  
up and make him get up and walk around. He's been eating fair  
with an appetite stimulant and using his litter box  - again when  
I get him up and take him near it.  His gums and tongue seem okay  
for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per day.


When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for  
him just in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had  
me hold off since we did the neoplasene salve on him.  Now I am  
wondering if I should try giving him the antibiotic anyway just  
in case.  I gave him fluids for the past 2 nights also - 50 ml  
and last night almost 100ml  because he's not drinking very much.


In any case, I'm just looking for advice about  clavamox. I don't  
want to make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it  
- if it makes cats nauseous.


also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the  
growth in his nose and
his other 2 lesions.  The vet recommended doing the salve again  
but at

this point, I'm not sure we will.


Thanks so much,
Stacy and Spanky



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Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic

2010-11-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
The probiotics might be a good idea - some good bacteria in the tummy/ 
gut, and certainly providing nutrients.  Might try syringing some  
chicken/turkey baby food too.  Sometimes just getting something into  
the belly helps.


Good luck - sending good vibes for Spanky.

Gloria



On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote:


Hi Tracey:

Thanks for your reply. I actually do trust my main vet, he is very  
open minded and looks at all my research and does research as well,  
and he actually does acupuncture and chinese herbs.   He referred me  
to the specialist/derm once so she could have a look at his lesions  
and see if she thought they were cancerous.  she suggested biopsy/ 
surgery which he would never be able to tolerate so we opted to try  
the neoplasene.  It did shrink 3 of them after just one application  
but then I elected to not salve again right away in his present  
condition.


He's not any better today and just looking really terrible. I'm  
going to see if I can try to get him into the vet.  I am not sure if  
he has an infection, is more anemic or if he's just tired of  
fighting. In any case, it is very frustrating and disheartening and  
you just feel helpless and hopeless seeing your furbaby like this.


As far as him eating, he used to eat wellness grain free canned and  
dry. Now he eats whatever I can get him to eat which isn't much at  
all. I've been syringing food into him this past week and giving  
fluids. Even with the appetite stimulant, he's not very interested  
in food.  I understand the importance of a high quality diet/ 
nutrition but if he won't eat, I have to just try to get him to eat  
something.


Purrs,
Stacy and Spanky
stacy_zac...@yahoo.com

--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Tracey Shrout dtshr...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Tracey Shrout dtshr...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:24 AM

Hi Stacy,

It seems to me you care very much about Spanky and want to do the  
very best
for him just like I would. It also sounds like you don't trust your  
vets so

much. I would suggest a holistic vet. I am very leery of all the
conventional meds as well and tend to think they may do more harm  
than good,

and they sometimes tend to mask the symptoms and not really cure the
underlying problem. I really don't like to give antibiotics, but if I
absolutely had to, I would also give them a probiotic as well to  
keep the
good bacteria in check. Most vets carry Fortiflora that you can add  
to their
food.  I have been lucky with my felv+ kitty so far (and my other 4  
neg's
who range in age from 3-13), but I attribute their awesome health to  
their
homemade raw diet which they have been on for over 2 years now...it  
really
has changed their life and mine...I wonder what you are feeding. To  
me, diet
is extremely important. I'm sure this advice doesn't help much right  
now,
and I understand being hesitant to give them something that may  
cause yet

another issue. I wish you and Spanky well.

Tracey

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Stacy Zacher  
stacy_zac...@yahoo.comwrote:



Hi:

Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more  
than
normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make  
him get
up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite  
stimulant and
using his litter box  - again when I get him up and take him near  
it.  His
gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic  
2x per

day.

When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for  
him just
in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off  
since we
did the neoplasene salve on him.  Now I am wondering if I should  
try giving
him the antibiotic anyway just in case.  I gave him fluids for  
the past 2
nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml  because he's not  
drinking

very much.

In any case, I'm just looking for advice about  clavamox. I don't  
want to
make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it  
makes cats

nauseous.

also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the  
growth in his

nose and
his other 2 lesions.  The vet recommended doing the salve again but  
at

this point, I'm not sure we will.


Thanks so much,
Stacy and Spanky



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[Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma

2010-11-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
This is an FELV Persian, in Bella Vista, Arkansas, the northwest part  
near the Missouri/Arkansas border, toward Kansas, who doesn't have  
much time - any options?  They say they're willing to transport... Any  
thoughts or takers?


Thanks,

Gloria


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From: Donna gofigure umumgoodfor...@yahoo.com
To: Belinda Barry bobarry1...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 15:36:23 GMT+00:00
Subject: persian

Belinda,
I have a problem. Over the last month I have taken in 4 persians.  
They all have
been in rough shape and all found within a 2 block area. Appears a  
breeder is
dumping in  this area. Anyway the last one we took in yesterday and  
he is a very
tiny male, black and white and has an old broken jaw (one of the  
others had a
broken jaw too). Anyway he is a young guy (approx. 8 months old) and  
skin and
bones. Took him to the vet yesterday as he looked awful and found  
out he has
feline Luek. Did not know if you knew someone that would take a  
persian with
leuk. I will hang on to him till tommorow and if you know anyone we  
will neuter

him and get him ready to go.
Let me know and I understand if you do  not know anyone. This is a  
hard one.

Thanks,
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[Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

2010-10-11 Thread Gloria B. Lane
My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and  
sweet kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named  
Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when  
her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia  
needs cats on to someone else, and I took them.


One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or  
16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.   
Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.


Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept  
covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no  
mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.


Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

2010-10-11 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Thank you so much, Sara, that's very special.

Gloria

On Oct 11, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Sara Kasteleyn wrote:

Gloria, your loving tribute to Chloe has brought tears to my eyes.   
Bless
you for taking such good care of this sweet girl.  We will light a  
candle

tonight to light her way, and to honor your love for her.

Sara

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B.  
Lane

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and
sweet kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named
Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when
her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia
needs cats on to someone else, and I took them.

One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or
16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.
Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.

Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept
covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no
mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-02 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Got it - thanks Kelley!

Gloria



On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:

From what I've found light pos is either an error on the part of  
the tech

or a bad test. The IFA is a much more conclusive test.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Gloria B. Lane  
gbl...@aristotle.netwrote:



Thank you so much - this is a great group, as always, and I really
appreciate the replies.

This is my take, re your comment Natalie.  With FIV, the snap  
test is for
antibodies in the blood.  Kittens of an FIV mom, when they are  
nursing, can
take in the mothers FIV antibodies.  It's different for FELV, the  
test is
for Antigens, and apparently the transmission of the virus is not  
the same.

Kittens of an FIV mom are very likely to get the antigens but not the
virus, depending on when mom was infected.  Our rescue has seen  
this happen
many times - kittens of an FIV mom invariably go negative before  
they're a

year old - yeaa!

With FELV, as I recall its different, I think (but not sure) that  
some of
the kittens can actually get the virus from mom, but can throw it  
off as
their immune systems develop.   This is just on memory, so if  
somebody
knows, please correct me. So I'm gather that perhaps the antigens  
hadn't
cleared yet at the time of the snap, and Linda seemed to agree with  
that.


Anyhow, this is a 1.5 yr old cat, so the question is, with a light  
pos on
Elisa snap test, and a negative on the followup IFA test, what does  
it mean?


MC responded and said it could also be a bad snap test. Or bad  
procedures
for testing.  Also asked at what interval were the tests done?  So  
I'm going
to check out exactly when the tests were done and what brand were  
the tests

and who did them.

But what I'm also hearing, is if neg on the followup IFA, then  
kitty is neg

regardless of the snap. Yes?

I've been asked to take this kitty, so am exploring my options.  I  
know if
he's FELV it's unlikely he'll get adopted so he'll be a permanent  
resident.
I already have several FELV cats, and have no fear of the virus,  
even mixed
with healthy cats, vaccinated or not, but just have to be prepared  
for
adding another cat.  My FELV's are healthy too, I haven't lost one  
in a

while, and I'm amazed at that.

But I know, if he's not FELV, he'll get adopted in a month cause  
he's so
gorgeous!  So trying to make sense of the data to tell if he's  
actually FELV

or not.

Again thanks I appreciate your help and support. This is a  
wonderful group,
always has been, a great resource.  I'll check more into the tests  
that were

used on Bicford and let you know.

Gloria





On Sep 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Natalie wrote:

Whenever this happened to me with kittens that were tested for FIV,  
I was
told that they had most likely been born to FIV+ mothers and as  
their

immune
systems developed, they would shed the faint positives.and  
they ALWAYS

did! I don't know if that's the case with FeLV.

I have two young adult cats that are FeLV+, but absolutely no  
symptoms and

healthy as a horse!

Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria  
B. Lane

Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:30 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named
Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested faint positive on  
the
snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA.  I gather that means  
that
Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the  
virus

in his blood?  I'm confused.

Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria



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[Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named  
Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested faint positive on the  
snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that  
Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the virus  
in his blood?  I'm confused.


Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thank you so much - this is a great group, as always, and I really  
appreciate the replies.


This is my take, re your comment Natalie.  With FIV, the snap test  
is for antibodies in the blood.  Kittens of an FIV mom, when they are  
nursing, can take in the mothers FIV antibodies.  It's different for  
FELV, the test is for Antigens, and apparently the transmission of the  
virus is not the same.  Kittens of an FIV mom are very likely to get  
the antigens but not the virus, depending on when mom was infected.   
Our rescue has seen this happen many times - kittens of an FIV mom  
invariably go negative before they're a year old - yeaa!


With FELV, as I recall its different, I think (but not sure) that some  
of the kittens can actually get the virus from mom, but can throw it  
off as their immune systems develop.   This is just on memory, so if  
somebody knows, please correct me. So I'm gather that perhaps the  
antigens hadn't cleared yet at the time of the snap, and Linda seemed  
to agree with that.


Anyhow, this is a 1.5 yr old cat, so the question is, with a light pos  
on Elisa snap test, and a negative on the followup IFA test, what does  
it mean?


MC responded and said it could also be a bad snap test. Or bad  
procedures for testing.  Also asked at what interval were the tests  
done?  So I'm going to check out exactly when the tests were done and  
what brand were the tests and who did them.


But what I'm also hearing, is if neg on the followup IFA, then kitty  
is neg regardless of the snap. Yes?


I've been asked to take this kitty, so am exploring my options.  I  
know if he's FELV it's unlikely he'll get adopted so he'll be a  
permanent resident.  I already have several FELV cats, and have no  
fear of the virus, even mixed with healthy cats, vaccinated or not,  
but just have to be prepared for adding another cat.  My FELV's are  
healthy too, I haven't lost one in a while, and I'm amazed at that.


But I know, if he's not FELV, he'll get adopted in a month cause he's  
so gorgeous!  So trying to make sense of the data to tell if he's  
actually FELV or not.


Again thanks I appreciate your help and support. This is a wonderful  
group, always has been, a great resource.  I'll check more into the  
tests that were used on Bicford and let you know.


Gloria




On Sep 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Natalie wrote:

Whenever this happened to me with kittens that were tested for FIV,  
I was
told that they had most likely been born to FIV+ mothers and as  
their immune
systems developed, they would shed the faint positives.and they  
ALWAYS

did! I don't know if that's the case with FeLV.

I have two young adult cats that are FeLV+, but absolutely no  
symptoms and

healthy as a horse!

Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B.  
Lane

Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:30 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named
Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested faint positive on the
snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that
Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the virus
in his blood?  I'm confused.

Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?

2010-08-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks, agreed here.  We've always had such a great, supportive and  
informative list here on FELVtalk.  And although there are some  
disagreements, this particular topic has been helpful.


Gloria


On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Barb Moermond wrote:


I think that in order to keep this a civil and safe place to exchange
information, we need to please address any issues we have with other
list-members directly to them - off list.  It's also a good idea to  
evaluate
whether it's the content of the message that irks or the way it is  
being
perceived - and then to also remember that plain text does not  
convey any other

secondary communication - body language, tone etc.

my .02
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.   
Merely living his

life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile.

- Anonymous





From: Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 4:13:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do  
we spay?




Also, you are coming across in e-mails as very abrasive. You are not  
the only
one that rescues/cares for/knows about FeLV and you should respect  
other
people's perspectives and experiences. I gave her an 'What I would  
do' scenario
based on my personal experiences. I have been on this list for many  
many years
and perhaps do not respond as much as you do but am in no way a  
novice when it

comes to these matters.
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Re: [Felvtalk] hemobartonella and possible FeLV interested party inNY!

2010-07-19 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I had the same experience with a non FELV cat.

Gloria



On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:29 AM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote:

Rachel- my Felv cat had hemobartonella, and was put on doxycycline  
for a

month- it has cleared up completely.

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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] hemobartonella and possible FeLV interested  
party in

NY!

I have 2 questions! One fl\or Paola and one for Beth. Paola, I would
love to know who in NY is even somewhat interested in an FeLV+ cat  
as I
have one who may or may not need a home and I just brought 2 kittens  
to
a sanctuary yesterday, and I owuld love for them to have a real home  
(I
live in NY). Also, Beth, I just had my rescue cat who has FeLV  
diagnosed
today with hemobartonella and I have a really bad feeling about it.  
She
is not eating well, is depressed, lost 1.5 lbs in a little over a  
month
(and she was skinny before). She was 5.5lbs and is now 4 lbs. I'm  
really
worried and sad for her and I want to do all I can to help, but I  
don't
want to make her suffer, and I have three of my own cats to worry  
about
plus all the other rescues. This is getting very costly! So if you  
know

of something that might help the hemobartonella, please let me know!
Thanks Rachel



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-13 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I mix positives and negatives also, and don't have problems.  I am  
watchful about kittens though,  but I don't often have kittens.


Gloria



On Jul 13, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Sharyl wrote:

Paola, I mix my positive with my negatives in my home.  I have had a  
total of 8 positives inside with my negatives over the last 3 yrs.   
All except 1 have crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  My negatives are kept  
current on their FeLV vaccine.  Each cat there own food plate but  
they don't always eat from their own plate.  All my negative cats  
were adults when I started mixing.  It is my understanding that  
kittens are more susceptible than adult cats.


It is an individual decision each of us makes.  I choose to mix and  
make the time my positives had as enjoyable for them as possible.

Sharyl

--- On Tue, 7/13/10, paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:17 AM
a question, I saw posts from 2 people
having FeLV+ cats in the house with non
affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly
sweet and FeLV+ but I
have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all
vaccinated for FeLV but
since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage
and hoping to find
someone with a closed household willing to take him as a
sole cat or an
additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat.
Having no luck so far
(found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm
in Los Angeles)


I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this
I also joined this
listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes
should definitely be
kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a
feral last year who was
also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if
they were likely to
catch it they might have already done so?

I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate
about being left alone
in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he
cries for a really
long time.

Sorry for the long post.
thanks
Paola





From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 4:48:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

We are a huge shelter with cats mingling in rooms. I guess
if you could hold
each cat for 6 months  retest before introducing them
to other cats you may be
safe, but I don't see how any shelter could take that
chance.
While we require our adopted cats to be indoor only,
someone could rescue a cat
from outside  introduce it without testing. Most
people don't know enough about
FeLV to understand what risks they can put their cats
through. I vaccinate mine
because I have FeLV cats in the house.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.org

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wrote:

From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:51 PM

I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that
up to the
adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat
is going to go
outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't
vaccinate the one I am
bringing home today.
My others were vaccinated several times before I
discontinued FeLV
vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that
makes me
comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative -
things might be
different if I had a FeLV positive living here).

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if
the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are
small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other
way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair 
trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and
foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
wrote:


From a vet to whom I sent the warning:

Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine

products. I will not use

them - too many problems with them over the years.

L


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  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]

On Behalf Of Natalie

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any

vaccines - besides, all

vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80%

effective according

to
my vet.
I assume that these 

Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane

But there's someone else, o great white brainey one...

Gloria



On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the  
part of NJ

that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well


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Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane

OK I cant stop laughing...

On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:00 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

there IS a members list last i checked--durned if i remember how to  
get

there. but that might spark fading memory cells.

brainey one? i'm sorry, i thought that coherent thought was optional  
in

rescue.



On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gloria B. Lane  
gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:



But there's someone else, o great white brainey one...

Gloria




On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the  
part of

NJ
that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well


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Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-02 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who!

Gloria




On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:



Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York  
City? Thankyou

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM


Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high  
Ca right now.  What was his phos level?  There is an issue when both  
Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs.   
It could be the anemia.


In the end we do what we can with the resources we have.  He's lucky  
to have you loving him.

Sharyl

--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and  
update

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM
No idea why he has hind leg
weakness.  I'll researched all the causes and none seem
to apply other than the leukemia.  He has had routine
blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored
him very closely as we do all our positive cats.  No
major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the
past couple years.

I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to
the vet that some level hasn't been off.  Historically
when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it
always ends up being nothing.  I spend lots of money
and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months
later, the value is normal again.  I've just grown to
step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high
value for that reason.  I have to say I still feel sick
every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though.
So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a
non-regenerative anemic cat.  He just had a full
CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid
to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is
limited to begin with.

The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind
leg weakness is long term steroid use.  I read that
it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it
even applies to pred.  He's been on pred for almost a
year.  However, I have no doubt that it is the one
thing that has kept him alive.  Neither me or the
specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off
that as I have no doubt he will crash.  We tried
weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for
hemobart and he started going downhill quickly.  That
said, his bone marrow is shot.  He's been
non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells
from his spleen or elsewhere.  We knew he couldn't do
this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just
sad.  Since he's been anemic for a year and holding
steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia
as well.  Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise
really.  He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he
doesn't keep
  up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too
much energy to walk in my opinion.

His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is
normal.  No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds,
probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped
keep that in check.  His calcium is just over normal -
11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5.  I looked at blood
work from all my other cats and they all run towards the
high end, 10 or higher.  So I'm weighing the risk worth
the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's
really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's
around in a month or so, rechecking it then.  Any
thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

Thank you everyone for all the suggestions.  My gut
tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle
with this disease.  I always try to keep hope and
remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be
taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith
sometimes.  Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through
this and defy the odds as he has until now.

Amy






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Re: [Felvtalk] Bugsy Please add the the CLS :(

2010-06-29 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'm so sorry, Sherry, you were fortunate to have each other.  Your  
lovely boy will be welcomed to the Bridge by all of our lovely kitty  
angels.


Gloria



On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

My heart is heavy yet once again.Bugsy (Bugaboo) lost his battle  
today.He was at the Sids sanctuary back when I started in 2005.He  
was a sweet quiet big black boy.But in the last few months he  
started to decline and was not so quite the big boy.But he had a BIG  
BOY appetite.Just last night I fed him almost 2 cans of friskies and  
some baby food.We sure did spoil him his last days with us.I will  
miss you my Bugaboo,so happy I got to tell him I loved him last  
night before I left.

Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2010-06-27 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks, Gary!  I looked at the Franck web site, not a great web site I  
might add, very disappointing.  No link for veterinary products, none  
for interferon that I could find.  I went to IslandPharmacy.com, and  
no interferon.  Too bad they aren't available any longer.


For those interested, Tally was on this group a few years ago and  
still has some information on interferon  and FELV on her web site.   
You can check it out at http://www.tallyville.com/stomatitis.html


Gloria




On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:45 PM, gary wrote:

Island Pharmacy was bought out by Franck's Pharmacy some time ago  
and I heard then that Franck's would be doing the interferon, they  
are in Ocala, FL.  You could call Island and ask them, maybe it was  
just temporary.

Franck's website is www.francks.com.

Gary

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon



So Island doesn't sell it anymore?

There's also 3 on 3 off protocol. I used to do daily tho.

Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:45 PM, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

According to Island Pharmacy - they use to compound a lot of   
interferon, but no longer do it - it was not recommended to  
freeze  the final dilution of interferon, just keep it in the  
fridge, they  always said it was good for 90 days that way.  The  
dosage for cats  is 30 IU a day.  The compound you have is made to  
have 1 ml equal 60  IU, so to get the correct daily dosage of 30  
IU, you would use only . 5 ml.  Whether you use a protocol with a  
daily dosage, or the 7 on 7  off protocol is a choice you have to  
make.


I don't know how your interferon is packaged, but if you do not  
need  a needle to withdraw it and can use just an oral syringe, I  
would  Google for a 1 ml oral syringe with cap.  Most of the  
syringes  listed as oral syringes will not accept a needle, so  
they are not  dual purpose.


Gary

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon


Hi:

I received a bottle of interferon from my vet. He told me it was  
a  90 day supply but it says discard after 30 days on the bottle.  
I  know many posts have said that you draw it up into syringes  
and  then freeze and I know it doesn't last long.  I'm guessing I  
need  to do that but my vet told me to call the compounding  
pharmacy that  diluted it and sent it and just make sure.


The bottle says Interferon Alpha 2B 60 IU/ML 45 ML give .5 ML by   
mouth once daily.  I thought I had read most people are giving 1  
ML  daily or 7 on 7 off? This came from US Compounding with an  
address  in Conway AZ. I didn't get much instruction with the  
bottle!


So I am wondering about freezing and then do you know of any   
economic sites where I can buy the 1 ML syringes in a box off  
100  and the syringe caps? I am also looking for empty small  
gelcaps.


Thanks!
Stacy and Spanky


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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2010-06-27 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Yeah, it's my understanding that it needs to get to the tissue in the  
back of the throat for absorption there...


Will have to look at the laser treatments, haven't read that.

Gloria


On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:50 PM, gary wrote:

Of course, you could always make your own and have a lifetime supply  
for under $100.


I would disagree with one statement made on Tally's site, she says  
you can mix the interferon with food.  I had always heard that the  
interferon is absorbed through the mucous membranes and once it got  
to the stomach it was useless.  Island said not to freeze the final  
dilution and it appears Tally did that with no problem.  It may be  
that Island Pharmacy just didn't want you to be able to keep it more  
than 90 days.  If you were using the 7 on, 7 off protocol, a 90 day  
supply would last 180 days if you froze the extra.


I thought the info in the lasaer treatments was very interesting.

Gary

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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Thanks, Gary!  I looked at the Franck web site, not a great web  
site I might add, very disappointing.  No link for veterinary  
products, none  for interferon that I could find.  I went to  
IslandPharmacy.com, and  no interferon.  Too bad they aren't  
available any longer.


For those interested, Tally was on this group a few years ago and   
still has some information on interferon  and FELV on her web  
site.   You can check it out at http://www.tallyville.com/stomatitis.html


Gloria




On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:45 PM, gary wrote:

Island Pharmacy was bought out by Franck's Pharmacy some time ago   
and I heard then that Franck's would be doing the interferon,  
they  are in Ocala, FL.  You could call Island and ask them, maybe  
it was  just temporary.

Franck's website is www.francks.com.

Gary

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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon



So Island doesn't sell it anymore?

There's also 3 on 3 off protocol. I used to do daily tho.

Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:45 PM, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

According to Island Pharmacy - they use to compound a lot of  
interferon, but no longer do it - it was not recommended to   
freeze the final dilution of interferon, just keep it in the   
fridge, they always said it was good for 90 days that way.  The   
dosage for cats  is 30 IU a day.  The compound you have is made  
to  have 1 ml equal 60  IU, so to get the correct daily dosage  
of 30  IU, you would use only . 5 ml.  Whether you use a  
protocol with a  daily dosage, or the 7 on 7 off protocol is a  
choice you have to  make.


I don't know how your interferon is packaged, but if you do not   
need a needle to withdraw it and can use just an oral syringe,  
I  would Google for a 1 ml oral syringe with cap.  Most of the   
syringes  listed as oral syringes will not accept a needle, so   
they are not  dual purpose.


Gary

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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 1:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon


Hi:

I received a bottle of interferon from my vet. He told me it  
was  a 90 day supply but it says discard after 30 days on the  
bottle.  I know many posts have said that you draw it up into  
syringes  and  then freeze and I know it doesn't last long.   
I'm guessing I  need  to do that but my vet told me to call the  
compounding  pharmacy that diluted it and sent it and just make  
sure.


The bottle says Interferon Alpha 2B 60 IU/ML 45 ML give .5 ML  
by mouth once daily.  I thought I had read most people are  
giving 1  ML daily or 7 on 7 off? This came from US Compounding  
with an  address in Conway AZ. I didn't get much instruction  
with the  bottle!


So I am wondering about freezing and then do you know of any  
economic sites where I can buy the 1 ML syringes in a box off   
100 and the syringe caps? I am also looking for empty small   
gelcaps.


Thanks!
Stacy and Spanky


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please light a candle for Taj

2010-06-22 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'm so sorry Sara, he's welcomed at the bridge by all our dear kitties  
who have gone before.  Calawalla Banana Booboo, Mittens, Mr. Black  
Kitty, Bob, Oliver, will all play happily with him.


Gloria




On Jun 22, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Sara Kasteleyn wrote:


Dear friends,

I had hoped to avoid writing this note for a very, very long time.   
Our blue-eyed bengal boy Taj is napping at the bridge this  
afternoon.  He developed breathing trouble over the weekend, and  
today we discovered that he had a massive tumor pressing into his  
lungs.  Heroic measures to extend his life would have been selfish,  
and given the underlying FeLV+ diagnosis, unlikely to have improved  
his quality of life.  He was a brave boy, hiding his discomfort from  
us for so long.   He lived a very short life, only 14 months, but he  
was loved and pampered in the extreme.


His sister, Rani, shares the FeLV+ diagnosis.  We pray she will be  
with us much longer.  My thanks to each of you for your fabulous  
advice and willingness to share what you have learned along this  
difficult and often sad path.


Sara

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Re: [Felvtalk] was Blind/Deaf Cat - now FIV and vets

2010-06-19 Thread Gloria B. Lane
You got that right - vet views differ radically, which I'm sure many  
of us experience. For example, A couple of years ago a vet up in the  
heights, a nice part of Little Rock, isolated an FIV mama cat in a  
closet because he was afraid to place her anywhere near other cats.   
He recommended euthanization.  Fortunately, the lady who found her  
didn't do it and brought her back home.


Nice to hear some more confirmation on FIV kittens going negative,  
that's what we've experienced also.


I think it was MC who said they always mixed FIV and FELV at the  
sanctuary she was with in Michigan, and never any problems.


Gloria



On Jun 19, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Natalie wrote:

Veterinarians' views differ: My veterinarian who also practices  
holistic,
herbal, nutritional medicine does not like to vaccinate FeLV or FIV  
positive
cats too often due to their compromised immune systems. All vaccines  
are
only 80% effective, and over-vaccinating being a strong probable  
reason for
those immune diseases, it can often do more harm than help.  The  
problem
with vaccinating healthy cats with the FIV vaccine is that all  
future tests
will show them to be positive, whether they are or not. As I wrote  
before, I
have never had any problems with mixing FIV+ cats with healthy cats,  
as long

as they got along!
In the past 18 years, I have had at least 12 FIV+ cats that gave  
birth to
kittens that have never been infected and went on to live healthy  
and long

lives after they were adopted. One of those cats, at age 13, developed
cancer and the owner went all out on medical care - cat is in  
remission now.
I have had a FeLV+ male cat for the past two years - I kept him  
separate
because I don't like mixing FeLV and FIV together. I had the hardest  
time
finding a home for him because FeLV+ cats are almost immediately  
killed and
so many vets even recommend to owners that they euthanize their  
positive

pet.  I finally decided to look around for another FeLV+ cat for
companyit took ages; I finally found one in NJ (I'm in CT).  
After one
night being in separate cages next to one another, they are sharing  
a nice

large condo and have become the best of buddies.
My vet always says vaccinate according to a cat's lifestyle - if it  
goes
outside, it obviously needs all the protection available; if it's an  
indoor

cat, vaccinate only what is required by the state - rabies!
Natalie

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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] was Blind/Deaf Cat - now FIV and vets

I agree, totally.  Hooray for your vet!


On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net

wrote:



I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THANK GOD FOR MY VET.  HE SAYS IF YOU KEEP THE
NEGATIVES HEALTHY AND UP TO DATE ON SHOTS IT IS OKAY AND HE IS
WILLING TO READ/LISTEN TO ANYTHING I BRING HIM.


 trmckel...@charter.net wrote:

I couldn't agree more with you, Sharyl.   Lots of vets think PTS
first with FeLV and FIV.   I often think they just don't know any
better.  The first option my vet offered with my first FeLV+, a
beautiful blue-eyed Ragdoll, was PTS, and my vet is very
progressive.  I also said no way, Selena had already wrapped me
around her little paw :-), we'll find other options.  I found out
about LTCI via websearch, got my vets on board, and now my vets are
believers after using it to save an FIV positive male they were
pretty sure wasn't going to make it.  They wouldn't have known to
try it if I hadn't pushed it in the first place.


Terry
 Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

=
A lot depends on the age of the negative cats.  Kittens seem more
susceptible.  I am one of those that has mixed positives and
negatives for almost 3 yrs.  But my negatives were current on their
FeLV vaccine before I started mixing and they get annual booster
shots.

It really is an individual decision.  My 1st vet wanted to PTS Sissy
and Rocket just because they were FeLV+. Then she wanted to notify
AC to kill all the cats in the colony I rescued them from.  Told her
no way were we going to kill Sissy and Rocket and no way was I
telling anyone where the colony was.  PETA is another group intent
on killing all FeLV kitties.

Some never mix and some mix very successfully.  I my case I was
bringing positive kittens into a home with vaccinated adult
negatives.  7 of my 8 positive kittens have now crossed the Rainbow
Bridge and there has been to issues with my negative cats.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 6/14/10, brooklynnat...@charter.net

brooklynnat...@charter.net

wrote:



From: brooklynnat...@charter.net brooklynnat...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: dlg...@windstream.net
Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 7:38 PM
My vet totally discourages putting
them together.  He said there is too much risk.  I
have 7

Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat

2010-06-19 Thread Gloria B. Lane
You know, I'm surprised that the suggest even 'considering'  
vaccinating FIV- cats that live with FIV + cats... Even if they  
fight.  My adult cats lay around and sleep all the time, and even if  
someone decides to fight, it's never anything that produces a deep  
bite wound, which is what it takes to pass on FIV.


Gloria



On Jun 19, 2010, at 3:46 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

for everyone, i'll post this again: this is the link to the amer  
assn of
feline practitioners guidelines for management of feline retrovirii,  
and

contains further links to both the summaries and the full guidelines.
everyone dealing with a positive kitty should read this, and should  
sit and

watch their vet read it it's a phenomenal resource, complete with
circles and arrows on the back (ie, a great bibliography.)

http://www.catvets.com/professionals/guidelines/publications/index.aspx?ID=323

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Re: [Felvtalk] was Blind/Deaf Cat - now FIV and vets

2010-06-18 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I agree, totally.  Hooray for your vet!


On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THANK GOD FOR MY VET.  HE SAYS IF YOU KEEP THE  
NEGATIVES HEALTHY AND UP TO DATE ON SHOTS IT IS OKAY AND HE IS  
WILLING TO READ/LISTEN TO ANYTHING I BRING HIM.



 trmckel...@charter.net wrote:
I couldn't agree more with you, Sharyl.   Lots of vets think PTS  
first with FeLV and FIV.   I often think they just don't know any  
better.  The first option my vet offered with my first FeLV+, a  
beautiful blue-eyed Ragdoll, was PTS, and my vet is very  
progressive.  I also said no way, Selena had already wrapped me  
around her little paw :-), we'll find other options.  I found out  
about LTCI via websearch, got my vets on board, and now my vets are  
believers after using it to save an FIV positive male they were  
pretty sure wasn't going to make it.  They wouldn't have known to  
try it if I hadn't pushed it in the first place.


Terry
 Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

=
A lot depends on the age of the negative cats.  Kittens seem more  
susceptible.  I am one of those that has mixed positives and  
negatives for almost 3 yrs.  But my negatives were current on their  
FeLV vaccine before I started mixing and they get annual booster  
shots.


It really is an individual decision.  My 1st vet wanted to PTS Sissy  
and Rocket just because they were FeLV+. Then she wanted to notify  
AC to kill all the cats in the colony I rescued them from.  Told her  
no way were we going to kill Sissy and Rocket and no way was I  
telling anyone where the colony was.  PETA is another group intent  
on killing all FeLV kitties.


Some never mix and some mix very successfully.  I my case I was  
bringing positive kittens into a home with vaccinated adult  
negatives.  7 of my 8 positive kittens have now crossed the Rainbow  
Bridge and there has been to issues with my negative cats.

Sharyl

--- On Mon, 6/14/10, brooklynnat...@charter.net brooklynnat...@charter.net 
 wrote:



From: brooklynnat...@charter.net brooklynnat...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: dlg...@windstream.net
Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 7:38 PM
My vet totally discourages putting
them together.  He said there is too much risk.  I
have 7 other cats that are all healthy and I would love to
be able to have them all be together but I'm afraid.  I
wouldn't want the healthy ones to get sick.  I would
feel so responsible.
 dlg...@windstream.net
wrote:

Theresa, if you felv kitty is lonely, ask your vet

about mixing him with your other cats.  my veet said
that as long as hey are up on their shots, it is okay and
mine have been mixed for 2 years now with no problems.
sure does make everyone happier.

 brooklynnat...@charter.net

wrote:

I live in Black Mountain NC and would be more

than happy to give him a home.

I'm really not too familiar with how things are

done here but I have a male that

I rescued from outside that has feline leukemia

and I keep him separated from my

other cats.  I'm sure he would be happy for

the company.  Let me know if you

think it might work.

Theresa Palumbo

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat

2010-06-14 Thread Gloria B. Lane
LOL well it's practically a sanctuary here.  Thanks for the info  
though, if you know of any places for a cat like this let me know,  
I'll continue looking.


Gloria



On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:


Gloria,
I hope you will consider keeping him as he will do much better in a  
private

home than a sanctuary.
I have a blind cat and am going to take in a deaf cat so have been  
doing

lots of research.
He would be fine in one room of your house. He will learn his way  
around

that room and feel safe.

At first Frankie (who lost his vision at age 9) got upset when he  
would run
into the other cats unexpectedly. He is much better about it now (3  
1/2

years later and he is doing great). Once the other cats know a cat is
disabled they may pick on him and attack him. I don't think a group  
of cats
is the right thing for this boy. The vet told me Frankie would be at  
the
bottom of the totem pole once the other cats knew he was blind. He  
isn't but
he does stay to himself more than he used to. He does have run of  
the house

- he did before he lost his vision.

Frankie was a feral 5 month old kitten when I took him in. I could  
not hold
or touch him. With work I was able to touch him but not hold him or  
pick him
up. Then I had to start treating him for asthma and we both learned  
a lot
about going slow and trust. After he lost he sight he LOVES touch. I  
suspect
this kitty will love touch once he is familiar with his  
surroundings. Smell
is important and probably heightened. He may smell the other cats  
and be
overwhelmed and afraid right now. All he has is smell and touch.  
Wonderful
food will be a pleasure. Also you might rub your own scent on a  
towel and
give it to him to comfort him. Even better if you could get  
something from

his previous owner to give him.

Info I found on deaf cats:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2108978_happily-communicate-deaf-cat.html

If you are willing and able to keep this boy, you have a wonderful
opportunity to learn so much and to help others in the future. Not to
mention, enhance his life and let him live with grace and peace.

Thanks for helping him!
Laurie




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Lane

Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:11 AM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat

I just took in a blind-deaf cat, was one of 25 or so in a lady's
house.  The lady became disabled, developed dementia, and our rescue
took some of her cats.  This one first was taken to the city animal
services, developed a URI, got about over it, was altered, tested and
shots, and we pulled him.

He (?) was transferred to a different cage, then to my carrier, then
to my home and a large cage.   He's not too friendly, although I can
at times pet him on the head and scratch his ears.  We think it's just
because of the changes in his life, that he just doesn't know what's
going on and if he needs to defend himself.  I haven't had a blind or
deaf cat before.

Does anyone know of a rescue that will take a blind-deaf cat?  I found
one in North Carolina, but I'm in Arkansas.

Thanks very much,

Gloria

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[Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat

2010-06-13 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I just took in a blind-deaf cat, was one of 25 or so in a lady's  
house.  The lady became disabled, developed dementia, and our rescue  
took some of her cats.  This one first was taken to the city animal  
services, developed a URI, got about over it, was altered, tested and  
shots, and we pulled him.


He (?) was transferred to a different cage, then to my carrier, then  
to my home and a large cage.   He's not too friendly, although I can  
at times pet him on the head and scratch his ears.  We think it's just  
because of the changes in his life, that he just doesn't know what's  
going on and if he needs to defend himself.  I haven't had a blind or  
deaf cat before.


Does anyone know of a rescue that will take a blind-deaf cat?  I found  
one in North Carolina, but I'm in Arkansas.


Thanks very much,

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tommy is gone

2010-05-11 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I am so sorry, Lisa.  Sweet dreams to our baby Tommy.

Gloria



On May 8, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Lisa Borden wrote:

Just a note to let you know that Tommy lost his battle with FeLV on  
Tuesday. I still cannot believe how quickly it took over, and by  
Tuesday morning he was so weak and his eyes were so empty. It was  
like his soul had left his little body. He was extremely anemic and  
his liver enzymes were elevated. I do know that recently, he had  
ceased to be happy, and that was really bothering me. He passed away  
Tuesday morning in my arms as he got the medicine that helped him to  
an eternal sleep.


I want to thank everyone for the information on this list, because  
even though I didn't post often I did read the list frequently. I  
have to believe that he had a year and a half with me that he might  
not have had with someone else.


I will continue to pray for you and your furbabies. May something be  
discovered to help these kitties.


Much love,
Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv

2010-05-10 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Impressive and interesting.


On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:53 AM, jbero tds.net wrote:

Okay, I am always questioning people that claim a cure, but here is  
a small
study done that caused a man to patent the treatment concerning  
felv.  This
a group dedicated to looking into any avenue that may help our  
little ones,

so I'm putting this out there.

I copied and pasted this from the patent:

notes:

1) One cat with FELV(+)/FIV(+) died without the treatment as a  
control.


2) Treatments: Cats were injected intramuscularly with 20 mg  
DEPOMEDROL
(antiinflammatory steroid) and dispensed with 1,200 mg powdered  
Nacetyl
cysteine(NAC), 200 IU of Vitamin E, 500 mg of Vitamin C and one PET  
TAB/day.



3) It takes from 3 weeks to 6 weeks for the cats to turn retrovirus  
positive

reaction to negative after the treatment.

4) The symptoms of Champage, Precious, and Missy such as dental  
problems

bloody diarrhea, and loss of appetite completely subsided after the
treatment with steroids/antioxidants. The symptoms of Sampson such as
vomiting, gum disease, and loss of appetite completely reversed  
after the

treatment. Josey's symptoms of lung problem, loss of appetite, and gum
infection cleared up following the treatment. The cats were  
maintained on

PET TABS following the treatment with steroid/antioxidants.

5) At the conclusion of the test all cats remained FIV or leukemia  
virus

negative.

6) Blood was drawn for analysis from four of the cats treated  
(Sampson,

Josey, Patch, and Bud). The analysis included cell cultures, mitogen
stimulation, and polymerase chain reaction assay for the retovirus.  
All
tests indicated the cats were fully cured as none indicated any sign  
of the

virus.

These cat experiments are the first to demonstrate that AIDS can be  
cured in

an in vivo model.

That's it.  If anyone's got any ideas about it or history with it,  
I'd love

to hear it.


Jenny
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Re: [Felvtalk] fyi: pet food buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Oh no, I hate to read it.  I'd just about forgotten about issues 
related to the quality of pet food.  

Gloria

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Subject : RE: [Felvtalk] fyi: pet food buyout

  http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/articles/breaking-news-proctor--
gamble-purchases-natura-pet-products.html 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv vaccine and booster

2010-04-17 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have never heard this before and have had FELV cats since 2003, and  
read up on it, used to more than I do now.  I seriously doubt if  
there's any truth to it at all.  Perhaps they're getting mixed up with  
the FIV vaccine causing a cat to TEST positive for FIV (not turn  
positive though).


Gloria



On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Emma Lively wrote:

Is it true that the felv vaccine can cause a cat to turn positive in  
the future?
I heard this from a friend and it shocked me because another friend  
has a healthy cat who received her felv vaccine and booster last  
year. All her pets are indoor and outdoor animals. She has 1 cat and  
two dogs.





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Re: [Felvtalk] on ringworm.

2010-04-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane

HA Love it.

Gloria



On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:49 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

re: ringworm, your vet is uncommonly wise. if you read all the  
professional
literature, including the small print, it all boils down to: goes  
away with
treatment in x number of months (depending on treatment); goes away  
without

treatment in three months.

shelters and rescues all over the country KILL cats for having  
ringworm;
many cats are immune to it, or break out once and then develop an  
immunity,
and there seems to be a genetic component to it, too--persians and  
himmies
will probably be shown to be predisposed to it. there's even an  
ingrown form

of it only seen in persians, himalayans (and one dog)

ringworm spores, like cockroaches, will outlive us all, and sit around
campfires munching on twinkies milennia after the human race has  
died out.


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Re: [Felvtalk] update on Whimsy

2010-04-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Interesting.  I'm always a believer in Gentian Violet for ringworm and  
skin problems as well as Golden Seal.  I first learned about Gentian  
Violet because when my dad was burned in the mid 1940's they used on  
some of his skin problems.  Then in the 1950's my grandmother said to  
use it on ringworm.  Guess my point is it's an old remedy lol.


Anyhow, I have a siamese mix kitty, Dusty Blue,  who's developed these  
weird skin problems that developed over the winter and into spring.   
Too much for Gentian Violet, which rubs purple on it's surroundings;  
and Golden Seal didn't work.  One of our vets said here try this.   
And it was miconazole.  So whenever I see a spot developing on Dusty's  
back or belly, I head for the Myconazol.  I don't bathe him in it,  
just get a wet cloth and put some on it and then on Dusty.  Works  
great.  And none of the other cats have gotten it, whatever it  
is.  Think it's almost gone.


Gloria



On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

thanks, Heather, yes I think it's looking like seasonal allergies  
since it was triggered when we had our first snow melt.  I didn't  
know him last Spring so I cannot tell what he went thru then.  good  
reasons to bring him in:)


--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] update on Whimsy
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:56 AM


This sounds similar to a lot of allergy, or flea allergy, hair loss  
we've
seen in outdoor cats here.   Even if there aren't apparent fleas,  
allergic
reactions can be triggered by just oneand of course, it could  
also be

seasonal type allergies.

Glad he is doing well!

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com 
wrote:



yes, and I brought up demodex too, but they said it wasn't that.

I brought my gentian violet to show the vet and she said 'why not'   
- she's

a great dr, because she is open to new ideas.

he is a survivior :)  and it's an honor to care for him:)

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From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] update on Whimsy
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 6:50 PM


This sounds very good. Did the vet ever suggest demodex mite as the  
cause

of
the itching and fur loss?
My vet says it's almost impossible to test for ringworm. He doesn't  
even
test anymore. He tends to treat small patches with human fungal  
cream and

larger patches with an oral medication.
Whimsy sounds like a survivor!
Thanks for taking care of him!
L

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Emeraldkittee

Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Whimsy

Whimsy - (the outdoor, used to be feral FeLV little boy who had a  
scary
jerking/twitching episode a few weeks back you might recall) - had  
his

check
up and everything was normal.  His bloodwork and stool came back  
normal
too.  His skin has been his only issue - he was bald on the left  
side, then
the right, now it's down to his tail.  This is the 8th week of  
this, and I
had figured it was ringworm.  He has no fleas nor mites, and the  
clinic
didn't think it was ringworm, but of course tested him (it's  
ongoing, for
those who aren't familiar - they put it in a jar, and see if it  
grows) It
may have been self limiting and somehow he cleared it.  Or, it  
could be
severe allergies. He is a long hair (so hard to be an outside baby  
with

long
fur!) and matted so severely in the winter (before I could touch  
him) that
it's also possible this is why there was hair loss. His itching is  
severe
but the skin now is normal (used to have lesions) He hates fish  
oil, I

was hoping he would take it to soothe the inflamation.

My vet was surprised that everything was normal, since his IFA was
positive,
too.  Or, can it be that if the immune system is just so out of  
whack it
can't even register in the bloodwork? His heart/lungs/lymph nodes,  
etc are
all normal too.  We think he is just under 2 years old.  He lost 7  
ounces,

but that was since the neutering in Jan, and could be normal.

He's got a set up in the shed, but likes to sleep right on the  
patio and

back door stoop; I am also showing him the sunroom, and he's slowly
checking
it out, so I hope he can stay in there. He's no longer terrified of
ceilings, but only cautious, and is understanding that 'inside is  
good'.
Every time I take him to the vet, he gets more loving, like he  
knows we are
trying to help him.  I guess I will take his results as good news  
for now,

and try to be as preventative as we can.

thanks for everyone's help.  He's such an adorable character, with  
a high
pitched meeew and jade green eyes. And he knows his daddy now too,  
and made
sure he fell in love with him too (he 

Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv

2010-04-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Good luck feeding your cats dandelions with cheese and jalapeno sauce...


On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:20 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

i realize that there are a group of folks who insist that FIV and  
AIDS are

totally analogous; what i've found out is that the major researchers
continuing in this line are followers of the folks who first  
identified the

virus as an individual entity in either 86 or 87, during the panic
surrounding HIV/AIDS. there was nothing wrong with their thinking  
(hoping)
they'd found an animal model that could help with the human  
condition, but
after awhile, most researchers (and research) showed that FeLV more  
closely
resembles HIV/AIDS than FIV does. however, the name has never been  
changed,

and that in itself continues to kill cats everywhere.

i know that they put cats on the HIV/AIDS cocktails of AZT and other  
drugs

they use in humans; and continue to insist that the research that most
researchers have come to accept is wrong.

the analogy of FIV=HIV/AIDS was a great HYPOTHESIS, but that's how  
knowledge
grows--we hypothesize something, we test it, and if the research  
doesn't

bear it out, we update. it seems that this one group of folks who did
identify FIV originally are just too invested in their original
hypotheses.

thanks for the link, and please do let us know what you find out.

i really do want there to be a treatment or cure found, but i want  
it to be

real, and reproducible, and verifiable!

i'll feed them dandelions with cheese and jalapeno sauce if it'll  
work!


MC




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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5

2010-04-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane

OK Thanks!


On Apr 6, 2010, at 10:09 PM, nancy denison wrote:

Get a hold of Casa De Los Gatos.  Great group.  I sponsor a FIV  
Tuxedo kitty named Turbo Girl.  Beth Montes has pu heart and soul  
into it.  They are in Tuscon, AZ.  go to casadelosgatos.org

Nancy
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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:17:44 -0500
From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Phoenix/Tempe?
To: Feline Leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Still looking know of any people to help or reputable rescues in
the Phoenix/Tempe area?

Gloria



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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Date: March 29, 2010 4:12:23 PM CDT
To: Feline Leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] off topic: need a temp stay and ride from
Phoenix/Tempearea
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Anybody in the Phoenix-Tempe , AZ, area?  Someone who adopted from
us (Feline Rescue and Rehome, Teamfurr.org) has financial problems,
wants to give up his two cats.  He adopted one from us, but they're
buddies.  Looking for temporary housing and a ride back to Little
Rock, Arkansas!

Thanks!

Gloria
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[Felvtalk] Phoenix/Tempe?

2010-04-06 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Still looking know of any people to help or reputable rescues in  
the Phoenix/Tempe area?


Gloria



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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Date: March 29, 2010 4:12:23 PM CDT
To: Feline Leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] off topic: need a temp stay and ride from  
Phoenix/Tempearea

Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Anybody in the Phoenix-Tempe , AZ, area?  Someone who adopted from  
us (Feline Rescue and Rehome, Teamfurr.org) has financial problems,  
wants to give up his two cats.  He adopted one from us, but they're  
buddies.  Looking for temporary housing and a ride back to Little  
Rock, Arkansas!


Thanks!

Gloria
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Re: [Felvtalk] gentian violet for ringworm-how?

2010-04-02 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have used Gentian Violet for many years for ringworm, and Golden  
Seal for not quite as long, and both seem to work well.  No I don't  
dilute it, never thought of it, but you might try it.  I always start  
with Golden Seal because it's not as , uh, purple as the Gentian  
Violet, ha!  It's also a treatment for thrush in the mouth, but I  
don't think it's very tempting to use in the mouth, or lick (for a  
kitty).


Gloria




On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

some have mentioned using this or goldenseal as a natural treatment  
for ringwormI assume it comes in a tincture, like goldenseal  
can?  should it be diluted with water and applied with cotton?  I  
assume it's ok if they lick some of it off?


thank you.



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[Felvtalk] off topic: need a temp stay and ride from Phoenix/Tempe area

2010-03-29 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Anybody in the Phoenix-Tempe , AZ, area?  Someone who adopted from us  
(Feline Rescue and Rehome, Teamfurr.org) has financial problems, wants  
to give up his two cats.  He adopted one from us, but they're  
buddies.  Looking for temporary housing and a ride back to Little  
Rock, Arkansas!


Thanks!

Gloria
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to treat a cut in FeLV cat

2010-03-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I generally clean the cut with Hydrogen Peroxide, poured directly on  
the cut.  Then either antibiotic ointment or an herbal, Golden Seal  
powder or liquid.


Gloria



On Mar 28, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Linda Sollberger wrote:


Hello everyone,
I've been on the list for several months but haven't posted  
anything. My neighbor and I are taking care of 4 FeLV cats.  Their  
mother was a stray cat in our neighborhood and had kittens in our  
garage.  I was just trying to cut a mat out of one of them, just  
under her front leg, and accidentally cut her skin.  I feel so bad.  
I've never done that before to any pet.  It bled a little but its  
just the skin that was cut.  We put some Neosporin on it and a  
little gauze bandage.  We didn't have any gauze to wrap around the  
bandage to keep it on so I cut  a clean Handiwipe in strips and tied  
it on.  I'm just wondering if that's the right thing to do.  Do you  
think I need to take her to the vet right away or can we just watch  
it for a few days?  I don't want to stress her by taking her to the  
vet if I don't have to.   I have 2 cats of my own and have had quite  
a few vet bills lately too.  I don't need any more but I want to do  
the right thing too.  How do you treat cuts in a FeLV cat? She's  
almost 2 years old.
I'm becoming quite a worrier.  We have already lost 2 of the kittens  
we originally had so I'm on this list to learn as much as I can.
Originally my vet told us they were FIV and not FeLV but I found out  
too late for the first one that that's not the case.  I changed vets  
and I have someone I can trust now. My heart and prayers go out to  
all of you who have lost  little ones lately.   I cry ever time I  
read about them and almost got off the list because it's so painful  
but I thought I better stay on to learn as much as I can.  Thanks  
for any advice you have.


Linda
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Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm

2010-03-04 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Topically I've used Golden Seal for ringworm, and it works well.  If that 
doesn't work I try Gentian Violet (which is  very purple 
and messy but has always worked well).   Orally I've used Grisiofulvin once or 
twice.  I have one FIV kitty with skin issues right 
now and am using Sebazole (sp) and seems to work well for him. I get a wet rag 
and apply it topially, with warm water.   Not sure 
what his skin problem is, though, probably not ringworm.

Gloria



--- Original Message ---
From: Diane Tyler[mailto:drty...@spenserslegacy.org]
Sent: 3/3/2010 6:23:45 PM
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Subject : RE: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm

 I've had lots of success using Program for ringworm. I've used it twice:
this year and several years ago for groups of four or more cats. The dosage
suggestions can be found at this website:

 http://www.vetinfo.com/cringwrm.html 

I know lots of people might not agree that this is an effective treatment,
but again, it has worked for me and is certainly a lot less stressful than
bathing or dipping.

Good luck!

Diane

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.comwrote:

 just wondering if anyone had a FeLV baby with ringworm?  Whimsy is not
 inside yet, but has started to yank his own fur out - he's got a few red
 spots suddenly that look similiar to scraped knees in people.  I'm planning
 on doing a skin scrape per my vet's instructions but I'm concerned if a) the
 test takes time to send to a lab is ok to bring him in? b) I won't be able
 to bathe him / nor do the sulfar dips, so it would have to be oral meds c)
 can I treat him while he's outside for this?

 I can't risk our whole household being infected especially with two other
 immune supressed kitties.

 ugh, this throws a curve ball into the plan.  This just started about 1 wk
 ago with lesions appearing about 3 days ago.  I was hoping to get him back
 to the vet and inside over the next week.

 Thanks so much, these posts are so helpful and interesting.
 Shannon

 anyone else's experiences would be interesting to hear.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis

2010-02-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I'm so sorry to hear that.  Wonder if something else could be causing the 
diarrhea, like giardia or something? Just thought I'd 
mention it.

Will sure be thinking of Bernie - best of luck,

Gloria



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Subject : RE: [Felvtalk] Bernie - Uveitis

 Hi everyone -

Just asking if you guys could say a little prayer for Bernie (1 yr. 8mos
FelV +)  He isn't doing well and I'm afraid things could get worse soon.

He was diagnosed with uveitis about 2 weeks ago.  The iris is still inflamed
even though we are using the predisone eye drops 3 times a day.  We could do
a biopsy and get a sample of the substance to see if it is lymphoma, but as
of right now, I don't think I'm going to do it.  I don't want to put him
through that and there is a chance that the sample would be unusable.  The
eye specialist also said that if it is lymphoma, it is most likely somewhere
else in his body as well.

He is eating normally and if you start to play with him he will play a
little. But his activity level is low, sleeping alot, and he won't play with
his brother. He started having diarreha last night. Also, if he doesnt get
his eye drops (One day i could only give it to him once), I noticed he
wouldnt eat for about 12 hours and just laid around the whole day.  Not sure
what else to do...it kills me to see him this way.

Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Virginia Clemans article regarding Feline LeukemiaViirus

2010-02-10 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I'm looking for a link to the article...

Gloria



On Feb 10, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:


If anyone is so inclined, might be good for them to hear from others.

Laurie



From: Estelle Munro [mailto:este...@bestfriends.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 6:38 PM
To: Laurieskatz
Subject: RE: Virginia Clemans article regarding Feline Leukemia Viirus



Dear Laurie,
I have emailed Dr. Mike about your concerns and he does not feel  
that the
article is inaccurate. Although brief, it does not give the  
impression that
FeLeuk is an automatic death sentence nor does it in any way  
encourage folks

to euthanize upon diagnosis. She does encourage folks to provide good
nutrition, maintain a low stress environment, and keep in touch with  
the vet

at any sign of illness.

Perhaps at some point in the future Best Friends will do a more  
lengthy
article on Feline Leukemia. Thank you so much for your input. We  
appreciate
that your experience has been dramatically different to what Dr  
Clemans
described and are genuinely delighted for you and your cats. Our  
experience
and statistics we have seen show that what Dr Clemans wrote is  
unfortunately

more common.

Best Wishes,

Estelle Munro


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From: Laurieskatz [mailto:lauriesk...@mchsi.com]
Sent: Sun 1/31/2010 7:22 AM
To: Estelle Munro
Subject: RE: Virginia Clemans article regarding Feline Leukemia Viirus

Thanks but this still does not address the issue of the FeLV article  
scaring
people and the likely unnecessary euthanizing of cats diagnosed with  
this

disease.

Will you consider printing my letter to present the other side and  
my own

experience, please?

Thank-you,

Laurie Crawford Stone



From: Estelle Munro [mailto:este...@bestfriends.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:00 PM
To: Laurieskatz
Subject: RE: Virginia Clemans article regarding Feline Leukemia Viirus



Dear Laurie,
There is a new article in the Jan/Feb 2010 issue of Best Friends  
magazine on

FIV. I think you'll find it more in line with your thinking.

Best Wishes,

Estelle Munro
Assistant Editor


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From: Laurieskatz [mailto:lauriesk...@mchsi.com]
Sent: Tue 1/26/2010 7:21 PM
To: Estelle Munro
Subject: Virginia Clemans article regarding Feline Leukemia Viirus

Dear Editor:



The article about Feline Leukemia Virus by Virginia Clemans is  
inconsistent
with my experience and, I believe, does a great injustice to cats  
diagnosed
with this virus. Certainly not all cats diagnosed with FeLV have the  
health
issues Clemans reports. I lived with two cats who were diagnosed  
with feline
leukemia after I adopted them. Stripes lived to age 16 years.  
Squeaky lived
to age 22 years. They were robust boy cats who lived together for 15  
years.
They weighed 15-16 lbs. People always commented about what big boys  
they

were. They were playful and fully engaged in life.



Stripes had an occasional undiagnosed illness that always resolved.  
Squeaky
was never sick a day in his life until his final three weeks.  
Squeaky died
from oral cancer. We did not determine Stripes' cause of death. My  
vets did
not treat these cats any differently than other cats I have had.  
There was
no alarm sounded when their tests came back positive. The  
information was
given to me as part of a routine exam. I had no idea anyone thought  
this was

a big deal. Certainly my vets did not think so.



I rescued two other cats who tested positive for FeLV. Ollie lived  
to an old
age, asymptomatic except for some dental issues at the time he was  
rescued.
Bella is still alive. She is a 13 lb ball of love. She was rescued 3  
years
ago and was an adult cat at that time. She was anemic and had a high  
fever
when rescued but these situations quickly resolved with medication  
treatment

by an internal medicine specialist.



Feline Leukemia does not have to be a death sentence. The kitties  
who test

positive should be retested as there can be false positives (and false
negatives). Their owners can find information and support groups on  
the
internet (yahoo offers several groups for FeLV cat owners). In this  
group
format they can talk to other people who live or have lived with  
cats with

FeLV. They can get questions answered. They can learn about feeding a
quality food, keeping stress to a minimum and various supplements and
treatments in the event of illness. Not all the cats who test  
positive will
be as lucky as those I mentioned here, but there is another side to  
this
disease and there are many cats who survive and thrive with this  
disease.






Sincerely,

Laurie Crawford Stone

Cedar Rapids, Iowa





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Re: [Felvtalk] Li Won has passed on

2010-02-02 Thread Gloria B. Lane
AND to share with her now-deceased mama who had her for most of those  
years. What a ride...  Thanks to everyone, always makes me feel better  
to post here.


Gloria



On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:07 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

wow, what a wonderful ride she had! i'm sorry that she had to leave  
you and
go on to another great adventure, but just think of all the tales  
she's got

to share with the kitties at the bridge!

GLOW to heal your heart.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sweet dreams little brother

2010-01-31 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Awww, I'm so sorry about your sweet Mozart.

Gloria



On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Jason Michael Canon wrote:


At 7:45 tonight Mozart finally went to sleep.  Keep a light on for me
little brother.

Love always,
Jason

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[Felvtalk] Li Won has passed on

2010-01-31 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Li Won passed from my care about 2 days ago - she was 23 year old  
Siamese, not FELV.  I've had her for at least a couple of years maybe  
3 - she belonged to a friend's mother, who had cancer and died of it.   
She was a sweet, beloved kitty, liked to sleep and eat - and was  
certainly the oldest kitty I've had.  I wish her well in her journey  
to the bridge and am grateful that she was here.


Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice please?

2010-01-26 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've never heard about 5 years being a time marker for FELV cats.  I've heard 
that kittens born with it will tend to have more 
trouble living long lives than cats/kittens that acquire it after birth.  All 
just stuff I've heard, of course, no proof.

I have had several FELV cats die at around  2.5 to 3 years of age.  I have 3 
FELV cats that are older than 3 years old now, not 
sure when they got it.  But one of them is 12-13 years old.  

At one point, I felt like daily interferon was a real help to young FELV cats 
less than 3 years old.  But then it seemed like if 
the schedule changed - doses had to be missed, etc - it was a big problem.  So 
now nobody's on interferon alpha, and partly 
because I'm so busy.  But everybody's doing well.  The last death I had was 
Oliver, who was 12-13-14 that age range.

I don't recall losing any FELV cats at 5 years of age, and have had quite a few 
FELV cats.

Now there are different types of FELV virus, so maybe that plays into it.

Hope this helps in some way.  

Gloria



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 I've been a member here for a while, although I don't post much. I lost a 20 
 month old cat (Cinder) to FeLV a year ago. We found 
out her status post-mortem and through subsequent testing of my other three 
cats found one of them (Onyx) to be FeLV+ as well 
(Elisa and IFA). The other two (Horus  Blackie) have been vaccinated, and will 
be re-tested soon. I did not separate them after 
learning that Onyx was + because - well, any of you who mix your +'s and -'s 
know why. 

Although there is no 100% sure way to know which cat gave the FeLV to the 
other, we are working on the assumption that Onyx had it 
to begin with and gave it to Cinder. Cinder was 9 weeks old when we adopted 
from ACC, and Onyx was about 20 months old at the 
time. I got Onyx from a pet store (lesson learned!) and she was in sad shape, 
only six weeks old, dehydrated, malnourished, and 
with coccidia. I couldn't return her to the people who allowed her to get into 
that condition (as suggested by the vet I used at 
the time), but for whatever reason, testing her for FeLV never came up. Cinder 
was tested at the shelter, and came back negative. 
Horus and Blackie both tested negative when they joined our family. At first I 
thought Cinder tested false negative because of her 
age, but in my many conversations with many, many people it seems more likely 
that Onyx had it from birth (or shortly after, she 
has never been exposed to FeLV other than with Cinder) and gave it to Cinder 
(they were very close as almost as soon as I brought 
Cinder home). Cinder developed a URI shortly after leaving the shelter, which 
Onyx caught, of course. Onyx had a much harder time 
beating the URI, part of which was due to a poorly prescribed antibiotic. I 
realize now that it may have been the FeLV that made 
it so hard for her to kick it.

So, Onyx is now four years and a couple of months old. She is healthy and 
active, and I have been so happy that she seems to be 
one of those cats who lives a long time with this virus. Until I spoke to a 
woman from a rescue group doing cat adoptions in a 
nearby pet store. Through conversation I told Onyx's story and this woman 
kindly (hah!) informed me that the life expectancy for a 
cat with FeLV in the bone marrow is five years, so while I'm lucky she's 
survived this long, I shouldn't expect Onyx to be around 
a whole lot longer.

Which brings me to the advice I would like: What are the chances of a cat who 
is FeLV+ from birth living past 5? I have been 
reading all the posts about LCTI, but I am not clear on whether you start when 
they develop symptoms or while they are still 
healthy. Does anyone here know if recurrent FLUTD is commonly seen in FeLV+ 
cats? Horus tested negative and was vaccinated, but 
he's lost two pounds in the last month (his appetite seems fine) and is in the 
middle of his third bout of FLUTD in as many 
months - he's also asthmatic. I am in panic mode right now. Should I re-test 
him early? Any advice anyone here can give me would 
be very much appreciated.

Avia Rauscher
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[Felvtalk] Article at Bestfriends

2010-01-26 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I just saw an article at Bestfriends.org which I was surprised and disappointed 
about:

http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/pdfs/cats/catfelv.pdf

The author includes What happens to a cat who has contracted the virus?

and says The virus adversely affects the cat’s bone marrow and immune system. 
An infected cat becomes anemic and is unable to 
fight off even routine infections. Cats with feline leukemia are commonly 
jaundiced and lethargic, and they experience weight 
loss, enlarged lymph nodes, and poor stamina.

It sounds like an FELV cat is going to die immediately after getting the virus. 
 So I can see folks reading that article and then 
euthing their FELV kitties, thinking they're doing them a favor. The 5 FELV 
cats that I have now haven't seen any sickness since 
I've had them.  

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] Article at Bestfriends

2010-01-26 Thread Gloria B. Lane

That's pretty sad isn't itI'm disappointed in BestFriends.


On Jan 26, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Gary wrote:

I wonder if the author of the article has ever actually gone to  
their FeLV unit and looked at the cats?  I certainly hope they don't  
look like the article says they look, mine don't look like that and  
they don't all get anemia and don't all get jaundiced.  The ones who  
do get anemia may be lethargic and jaundiced, but it is not an  
ongoing condition.  But you never know, I once asked the vet at BF  
why they give a monthly sub-q shot of immuno regulin to all the FeLV  
cats, figured I'd get some good info on IR. WRONG!! The vet said  
they use it because that is what was being done when he arrived, I  
believe he doesn't have a clue.


Gary

- Original Message - From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Article at Bestfriends


I just saw an article at Bestfriends.org which I was surprised and  
disappointed about:


http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/pdfs/cats/catfelv.pdf

The author includes What happens to a cat who has contracted the  
virus?


and says The virus adversely affects the cat’s bone marrow and  
immune system. An infected cat becomes anemic and is unable to
fight off even routine infections. Cats with feline leukemia are  
commonly jaundiced and lethargic, and they experience weight

loss, enlarged lymph nodes, and poor stamina.

It sounds like an FELV cat is going to die immediately after  
getting the virus.  So I can see folks reading that article and then
euthing their FELV kitties, thinking they're doing them a favor.  
The 5 FELV cats that I have now haven't seen any sickness since

I've had them.

Gloria



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Re: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away

2010-01-25 Thread Gloria B. Lane
So sorry, James - gentle bridge vibes for sweet Lyttle Guy.  Lucky  
kitty to pass out of this world with such kind hearted love.


Gloria


On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:37 AM, James G Wilson wrote:


Lyttle Guy passed away in my arms at 4:18am this
morning. He had series of seizures and then gasped his
last breath. He was truly loved and shall be dearly
missed

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research  Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone
http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL)

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[Felvtalk] Bridge list - SnuggleBunny and Calico

2010-01-09 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Some for the Bridge List - Susan, a rescuer here in Little Rock, just  
lost 2 very dear FELV kitties during the last two weeks - first  
SnuggleBunny, then Calico yesterday(Jan 9, 2010).


I lost some beloved kitties recently - Oliver, a 13-14 year old FELV  
from Oklahoma that I've had for maybe 4 years, died in Dec 2009.  I  
also lost some non-FELV kitties recently -
Tillie (age 18, Oct 2009), Violet (FIV adult kitty, Nov 2009), Toby  
(age 14, Dec 2009).


Thanks,

Gloria

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[Felvtalk] Oh yeah - VOTE FOR ORANGE TABBY ALEX in the Bissell contest

2010-01-09 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Meant to include this!  Please help if you can!  Susan is a librarian  
at the Arkansas School for the BLind, and has a Library Cat who goes  
to school with her - hey!  IF possible, please vote for ALEX- she's  
entered him in a Bissell contest,  and if he wins it will benefit our  
rescue, Feline Rescue and Rehome.  Thanks very much  - we really  
appreciate it!  I've included her info below -Gloria


-

http://mvp.bissell.com/mvp_PetDetail.aspx?id=8589935526

This is the link to follow for the Bissell Most Valuable Pet contest  
which Big Footsie placed in (one of the weekly contests) last year!   
Let's beat the over 600 votes Footsie got and send Alex to the  
finals!  They have never had an orange tabby in the top 5 so I think  
he has a great chance.


He can win up to $5000 for FuRR and appear on Bissell packaging for a  
year.


The voting is a little  harder this year - you have to create an  
account to do it. Follow the link , click on Please Log In to Vote,  
click on If Not a Member Click Here to Create an Account, once that is  
done click on VOTE, then search for Alex, click on the picture and  
then on the Vote tab just to the right of the tab that shows the  
number of votes.   You do NOT have to use your email account's actual  
password.
BUT - if this is too much hassle but you'd still like your vote to be  
counted, just reply to this email and say vote for me, and I can do it!


Please forward to all your friends, post on Facebook, etc.

We have through Thursday, JANUARY 14th  to vote - there are over 3500  
entries - but we can do it!


Thank you so much.

Alex and Susan
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