Merry Christmas Everyone

2005-12-25 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,One this Christmas night, I am thinking of all those I hold special and dear and naturally my mind to turns to this list. I think often of all of you and I hope to contribute again soon. I love you all and wish each of you a wonderful Holiday season (however you choose to celebrate) and for all of us I pray for a shining 2006.Take care everyone; hugs and extra-special headbutts to all the furries.Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to
 acquire a pet.
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My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,

Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were with her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled over my finger when she left us.

It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night for weeks.

I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! I'm happy they were able to "meet".

Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd be completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our other cats.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Mandy Update, Welcome, For Hideyo

2005-10-25 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,

I wanted to welcome all the new folks to the list; as I'm sure you've been told, it's always bittersweet. We're sorry you're dealing with FeLV, but you will never find a group of more wonderful, knowledgeable, compassionate people. 

For everyone dealing with sickness, I send you hugs and nothing but good wishes for kitties to be comfortable and make a good recovery.

Mandy has begun to go downhill rather suddenly. She has lost the verve of her personality and is not finding any food much to her liking, except, and Hideyo, this may interest you for Ginger: Enfamil. Yes, human infant formula. I would not use it regularly because the vitamin/mineral ratio is too high in some cases for kitties, but I'm not exactly concerned with Mandy's longevity at this point. She doesn't want Just Born or KMR anymore, so I decided to try Enfamil and she is eating as best she can and seems to like it. Hideyo, it might be worth a try for Ginger to see if it will kick-start her appetite. The tumor in Mandy's mouth is growing and she is having obvious difficulty swallowing any non-liquid. She wants me to hold and stroke her (taps me when I stop) or to sit on my shoulder if I lay down, but she has virtually stopped purring and is beginning to hunch. She has lost almost all the hair on her chest and inner front
 arms.I see her now starting to act as though she feels unwell. I have never been so conflicted about the decision to end life. Both my regular vet and the oncologist we saw last week suggested in rather sublte ways that I need to consider it. Well, duh. Obviously I need to consider it since everyone has agreed she is terminal. She just seemed so herself (happy and interested) regardless of how she looked. Until this weekend; it's been obvious her condition is worsening and I can't allow her to suffer. I am having a terrible time letting go of my sweet girl; I would give anything I posess to save her, but nothing can be done. My heart is broken and I have decisions to make. Please keep Mandy in your thoughts. 

Love to all, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Charity is back in area!!!!!!

2005-10-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Patti,

How wonderful! Just because they don't sit on our lap doesn't mean they don't completely capture our hearts!

I hope Charity is home to stay; she knows a good thing!

Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am so, so excited! Just got back home  spotted my dear, feral girl Charity in my neighbor's yard!
I quietly attempted to approach her, and for quite a few minutes she remained perched on the fence, just looking at me  listening to my words.
I KNOW SHE RECOGNIZED ME!!!
Then, the other neighbor's yipper dog started barking  she spooked, but is somewhere on neighbor's property.
And, I checked the outdoor "house" I made for her, and all the food was gone, the bed was slept in (could tell cause I put straw in house)
AND, I almost cried when I saw she had carried "our feather plume" into the bed w/her!!
(This was the plume she "allowed" me to stroke her with.)
So, I put fresh food, water  her favorite, TUNA, in both her house  I left the barn door ajar and set up bedding, same food  litter box for her.
I debated trapping her again, but I don't want to spook her  scare ger awayI am so glad she is "home".
I hope I do get the opportunity to somehow get her in the barn, then I'll work on bringing her into the house. However, if she "truely" wants to be an outside cat, there are many warm . dry places for her. (I put heat in the barn.)
So, everyone, thanks for your prayers  please pray she will stay.
I never thought I'd be so devastated over a cat who at first attacked me every chance she got.. But, somehow we "made a connection"  hopefully she is home for good!!

Patti
With Love from Charity too"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Dixie Louise's teeth

2005-10-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi,

I've never had success trying to brush a cat's teeth; mine all hate it. Are you using the finger brush and the chicken or liver toothpaste? If you are actually able to brush them, that is probably helpful. 

Is Dixie Louise taking L-Lysine? Sometimes mouth problems are due to herpes virus infection and the Lysine would help; actually, if there is anything viral going on, it would help. Has she had recent bloodwork? Sometimessudden bad breath can related to problems with the kidneys. Is her urinary output looking OK?
Julie

maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Dixie Louise is FeLV + and has gingivitis. She has lost a couple of teeth (maybe from the gingivitis or maybe from the poor living conditions she had--she was a throwaway). She has developed an odd odor to her breath. I am trying to brush her teeth and she is on Interferon as well as some homeopathic/alternative meds. Can anyone give me any advise on brushing a cat's teeth and on how to deal with this problem? She is about a year and a half old (best guess) and extremely sweet. 

Thanks"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: apologies..

2005-10-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Kerrie,

I'm so happy Pookie has found a home with you! TRY not to burn the candle at both ends because you'll just get run down!

In my experience, cats with kidney problems have difficulty gaining weight. They undergo a number of metabolic changes and often one of the first outward signs of kidney problems is weight loss. Is he on a special diet (generally low-protein w/low phosphorous, or addition of phosphorous binders)? I think food often begins to taste differently to them; I've had CRF kitties just lose the appetite for their formerly favorite foods and want something else. And, the other thing I've noticed is that while almost all the information from vets is to limit protein, they seem to crave it! I choose to not use a special diet (unless them seem to like it!) and let them eat what they want. I believe eating is a pleasure for them and adding a little time to a life that's made miserable by eating an unappetizing diet is not worth it.

I hope things calm down for you soon and I send the best wishes and big hugs to you and Pookie! What does he think of the sub-q fluids?

Love, JulieKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Apologies to all my dear friends for my absence in posting, which is likely to continue for another week (at least) due to temporary doubling of my workload to impossible level. Thankfully it's all in a good cause (Hurricane Katrina). 
Please knowI'm thinking of you all and praying for all your sick kitties, and I send my condolences to you for all those dear souls that have crossed the bridge. 
The good news (albeit another reason I've been chasing my tail this week) is that I have a new (negative) foster kitty, 15-year-old Pookie. He's white with blue eyes.I have very little info on him ("deaf, kidney problem") but am directed to give him subQs every other day, or daily if nec. He seems happy enough, but he is SO SOthin--his weight isn't on his chart, but I figure 5lb (his sex doesn't even seem determinate--chart says 'F" -- shelter director says "male"). I desperately want to fatten him up. I've had no time to research yet, apart from reading Frazier re the subQ,but any info wd be welcome on what I can do to help this little guyput some weight on.
Hope to be back in the swim very soon.
love to y'all. Kerryxx
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Re: FIP

2005-10-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Jen,

So happy you are all safe and sound! I have about caught up in my email to the description of your evacuation ordeal; my goodness!

You might direct this gentleman to Dr. Addie's website:

http://www.dr-addie.com/


She has a protocol on there for treatment with human interferon; obviously a better chance would be Virbagen Omega, but an FIP kitty doesn't have time to wait for it (unless he happens to be located where it is available). I believe more and more that there is no single answer to some of these horrible viruses, but rather a combination of therapy. I did start Tater Tot on the human interferon protocol because it was all that was available. She recommends other supplements, too. I couldn't use them all because he would not eat the food with them added and he just gagged terribly if I tried to syringe them in. He was never cooperative about meds, anyway, but if this kitten is, many people have found them to help (cod liver oil, Vitamin C, etc.).

FIP is the worst kind of a nightmare. I hope the kitten has been misdiagnosed; it does happen!

So happy you and yours are safe!

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All!I just had a very heart-broken man email me about importing Virbagen for his 5 month old kitten who was just diagnosed with FIP...I know some of you have dealt with FIP before (successfully?), and was just wondering if you'd have any advice! I encouraged him to join the list as your advice is invaluable...but I decided not to wait for his reply as (I believe) time is critical when it comes to dealing with FIP!Thanks guys!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk
 to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Pookie

2005-10-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Kerry,

The fact that Pookie tolerates the sub-q fluids is half the battle! It's wonderful that he does. Isn't it remarkable how utterly oblivious the deafness makes them to the cranky hisses of the others? Luna thinks the vacuum cleaner is a huge toy!

This is an excellent site for CRF:

http://www.felinecrf.com/index.htm

I know time is ata premium for you right now and this site has great information that is well categorized.

Take care; I'll bet Pookie is resting on the bed right now and I wish I was with him! I think we need new labor laws which provide for morning and afternoon naps!

Love, Julie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Julie, thank you so much for your reply---I've felt I'm working in the dark here as the medical records are so badly handwritten (and brief) and I have no idea how to decode his test result nos (apart from the dreaded HCT of course).
They instructed Wellness for him, which I'm pleased about and he def seems to like it.
I tried to weigh him on my kitchen scales last night but non possible! I wdn't be surprised if he only weighed 4 lb. 
He's very good re the subQ--I make sure to warm the water first.
I SO want to help him--he is so bony and light (but otherwise seems fine--he's very curious, and, being deaf, is able to blithely ignore the growls of his new"buddies".
I keep him safe in my bedroom on his own while I'm at work---I don't trust one of my other rascals in particular fight.
Thanks again Julie. Love and hugs to you and yoursKerry

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:51 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: apologies..
Dear Kerrie,

I'm so happy Pookie has found a home with you! TRY not to burn the candle at both ends because you'll just get run down!

In my experience, cats with kidney problems have difficulty gaining weight. They undergo a number of metabolic changes and often one of the first outward signs of kidney problems is weight loss. Is he on a special diet (generally low-protein w/low phosphorous, or addition of phosphorous binders)? I think food often begins to taste differently to them; I've had CRF kitties just lose the appetite for their formerly favorite foods and want something else. And, the other thing I've noticed is that while almost all the information from vets is to limit protein, they seem to crave it! I choose to not use a special diet (unless them seem to like it!) and let them eat what they want. I believe eating is a pleasure for them and adding a little time to a life that's made miserable by eating an unappetizing diet is not worth it.

I hope things calm down for you soon and I send the best wishes and big hugs to you and Pookie! What does he think of the sub-q fluids?

Love, JulieKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Apologies to all my dear friends for my absence in posting, which is likely to continue for another week (at least) due to temporary doubling of my workload to impossible level. Thankfully it's all in a good cause (Hurricane Katrina). 
Please knowI'm thinking of you all and praying for all your sick kitties, and I send my condolences to you for all those dear souls that have crossed the bridge. 
The good news (albeit another reason I've been chasing my tail this week) is that I have a new (negative) foster kitty, 15-year-old Pookie. He's white with blue eyes.I have very little info on him ("deaf, kidney problem") but am directed to give him subQs every other day, or daily if nec. He seems happy enough, but he is SO SOthin--his weight isn't on his chart, but I figure 5lb (his sex doesn't even seem determinate--chart says 'F" -- shelter director says "male"). I desperately want to fatten him up. I've had no time to research yet, apart from reading Frazier re the subQ,but any info wd be welcome on what I can do to help this little guyput some weight on.
Hope to be back in the swim very soon.
love to y'all. Kerryxx
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RE: Should I spay Ginger?

2005-10-21 Thread Julie Johnson
I waited until they had a first heat.Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Did you wait until they actually had a first heat or just try to cut it as close as you could but still get done before that? I think I've already decided to just wait a while. Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hi Susan,

Yes, I did exactly that. Little Evie was FeLV+ and a robust little girl, except, she was barely able to lap when I found her (that's how young she was) and she just never seemed to grow. As you are describing, it was simply not something I could put my finger on, but a more instinctual response. Trixie, too, is a rather small cat. Although she is FeLV-, she seemed to have a very lengthy period of physical immaturity and I just didn't feel she was ready for the surgery no matter how old the calendar said she was. Hope this helps you reach a decision, or, simply keep postponing one for a whilethat's OK!

Julie


Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julie - you said you waited until they were close to a year -- did you wait as long as you could - until they first came in heat and then spay? I hadn't really thought about this til today -- I've always spayed and neutered negatives and positives, both feleuk and FIV and not given it a thought - nor had any problems. But I have here at work with me today Daisy, one of my "library cats" that I bring to school (work) at AR School for the Blind. She is actually a foster kitty but has become not only one of my extra special kids but also a favorite of my kids at school. She is about 9 months old - no sign of going into heat. And as she has gotten older she has been full of energy - but I just have a gut feeling that she isn't going to be one of the super-healthy, long-lived feleuk babies. She has lost some weight recently - I don't have anything else to go by - just a feeling.

So for the first time everI am wondering about spaying - and I don't believe in unaltered animals at all! So I am watchingeveryone's answers here very closely.  Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Hideyo,

It's so hard sometimes to know and do what is best for them. Is Ginger positive? Is there something else going on that could be compromising her appetite?Intact females are statistically more susceptible to mammary cancers, aside from the obvious reasons why spaying is good. I waited with Little Evie and Trixie, both were probably close toa year old (they were just so TINY I couldn't bring myself to make the appointment) before they were spayed and they sailed through without a problem.

JulieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess my bottom line is ...I want what's best for Ginger - and I don'tknow what it is - I guess no one will really know for sure, will they.I never thought of neutering George because of his liver problem andbecause of his weakness at that time, and I knew that I made a rightdecision not make him go through a surgery, because it was a "rightthing" to do.. and it was not a right thing to do for George at thattime..Ginger looks healthy and she is so beautiful.. but I also know that shecan be very fragile and just don't know what the best thing for herI don't want to risk anything if I could avoid and I don't know whatit means.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:03 PMTo:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Should I spay Ginger?Well I certainly wouldn't spay her while she's in heat, or when she's not eating. It may be that she's eating less because she's in heat, they get so focused with the hormonal surges and need to find a mate. How is she otherwise? Is she strong and healthy now? It's so stressfulhaving them go through surgery. I had all my felv kitties spayed beforeI knew they were positive, otherwise I'd have been biting my fingernailstoo. And you've had that horrible experience with a perfectly healthy kitty passing after surgery. I think my bottom line is that I can't sanction having intact animals under my protection. If they cross my door, they don't go back out intact.NinaHideyo Yamamoto wrote:Hi, My Ginger is almost one year and a half now and I waited to spayheras she was extremely weak and underweight -but she recently
 becamein heat and I felt so bad that she needed to go through it - I knowit'sstressful to go through heat process, but I did not want her to gothrough surgery because it will stressful as well -...she really doesnot want to eat anything right now which happens once a while.. but Iamnot sure if so because she is in heat any suggestions as to what Ishould do for Ginger is very appreciated.. she is my dearestbaby...thank you! "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come 

RE: Should I spay Ginger?

2005-10-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Hideyo,

Within the last year my vets have instituted a policy of no surgery without prior bloodwork. I've always done the bloodwork, anyway, but some folks are angry about the additional expense. Believe me, I understand all too well about the cost of vet care, but I'm not going to risk an animals life just because they LOOK healthy.

I know several groups that do pediatric spay/neuterbut I just can't bring myself to do it. MOST of the time things are fine, but I feel that young animals, just like human infants, are too physically immature to undergo any surgery that they don't HAVE to have.

JulieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Hi, Ginger did not go in heat like normal other kitties are either – as she was very under-size and under nourished when I first found her – 
If you notice any decline in your kitties’ health – you might want to wait and see how she does.. no matter what my vet says, I don’t take spaying/neutering surgery lightly – when spaying and neutering clinic, it’s not uncommon to lose a kitty from the reaction from anesthesia.. and I had to live with the pain and I still do, when I lost 9 month old very healthy baby, Suzi to the spaying surgery – please trust your gut feeling - 

I don’t believe “breeding animals” – but if it’s better to wait because of their health condition to go through a surgery, I don’t feel that there is nothing really wrong with waiting either. One thing I am going to do, and I would like to recommend that you do, prior to surgery, if you decide to do for her in the future, to run a blood panel to find out their condition prior to the surgery – if she is too anemic, I would not recommend a surgery – (Suzi’s PCV was very low for some reason )… or any abnormality which can be considered to be serious..

I also had an opportunity to talk to Dr. Addie who does research for treatment for FIP at Glasgow – she strongly recommend that any virus compromised kitty whether it’s FeLV or corona virus, postpone the spaying/surgery as long as you can – as their immune system will be stronger.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:58 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Should I spay Ginger?


Julie - you said you waited until they were close to a year -- did you wait as long as you could - until they first came in heat and then spay? I hadn't really thought about this til today -- I've always spayed and neutered negatives and positives, both feleuk and FIV and not given it a thought - nor had any problems. But I have here at work with me today Daisy, one of my "library cats" that I bring to school (work) at AR School for the Blind. She is actually a foster kitty but has become not only one of my extra special kids but also a favorite of my kids at school. She is about 9 months old - no sign of going into heat. And as she has gotten older she has been full of energy - but I just have a gut feeling that she isn't going to be one of the super-healthy, long-lived feleuk babies. She has lost some weight recently - I don't have anything else
 to go by - just a feeling.



So for the first time everI am wondering about spaying - and I don't believe in unaltered animals at all! So I am watchingeveryone's answers here very closely.  Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Hideyo,



It's so hard sometimes to know and do what is best for them. Is Ginger positive? Is there something else going on that could be compromising her appetite?Intact females are statistically more susceptible to mammary cancers, aside from the obvious reasons why spaying is good. I waited with Little Evie and Trixie, both were probably close toa year old (they were just so TINY I couldn't bring myself to make the appointment) before they were spayed and they sailed through without a problem.



JulieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess my bottom line is ...I want what's best for Ginger - and I don'tknow what it is - I guess no one will really know for sure, will they.I never thought of neutering George because of his liver problem andbecause of his weakness at that time, and I knew that I made a rightdecision not make him go through a surgery, because it was a "rightthing" to do.. and it was not a right thing to do for George at thattime..Ginger looks healthy and she is so beautiful.. but I also know that shecan be very fragile and just don't know what the best thing for herI don't want to risk anything if I could avoid and I don't know whatit means.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:03 PMTo:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Should I spay Ginger?Well I certainly wouldn't spay her while she's in heat, or when she's not eating. It may be that she's eating less because she's in heat, they get so focused with the hormonal surges and need to find a mate. How is she othe

Re: Our Trip

2005-10-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Michelle,

Wink is approximately 9 years old. She's tiny (right now only 4.5 lbs) and has always been that way. I don't think she ever weighed more than 6 lbs. 
She is also hyper-thyroid. If she's a candidate for surgery, Dr. Bulakowski feels that it's reasonable to expect a2-4 year extension of her life.I've hunted everywhere for something, anything in the way of trials for Mandy and I discussed it with the Dr. (they are now a partner in trials with the American Cancer Institute) and there is nothing right now. I hope against hope that he will hear of something at this conference and call me next week with something to try. Mandy looks physically terrible; skin and bones, drooling, tongue sideways out of her face, but I can't describe how happy she is. Ran in to play with the laser pointer last night. Runs to me purring with her tail up and jumps in my lap. She is so involved with us and the other cats. She doesn't want to go and I can't find anything that will help her stay. It's heartbreaking. Thanks for your love and concern; it means so much to me. 

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Julie, no I never saw that vet. I saw Dr. Philibert, and the female vet on occasion (I liked her a lot but can not remember her name for the life of me).
I am sorry the news was not so great. Boarding for that long is intense. What are the chances they give for the surgery and radiation prolonging Wink's life a lot? How old is Wink?

Something you may want to do is look online for experimental treatments/studies. I think that there are more for dogs than cats, but our dog Fern got in one through the Animal Cancer Institute (they have a web page listing open studies) and that, combined with lots of herbs and acupuncture, gave Fern 18 months when the oncologists said she would have 5-9 months with surgery, radiation, and chemo (we declined all three because it would have been really hard on her for not much more time). She did better without the recommended procedures than with them, and felt good til near the end. And the experimental drug (Thrombospondin, and antiangiogenic drug) was a sub-q shot with no side effects that we gave her ourselves.
Lots of love,
Michelle"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Switching from kitten food to cat food

2005-10-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Michelle,

My vets have told me a year, however, I keep kitten food in the mix (I rotate foods rather than feeding the same thing all the time) because it's higher in protein.

Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although I have my kitties I've always had adult kitties and never kittens and some one asked me a question I couldn't answer yesterday. Does anyone know what age kittens should be on average before you start weaning them from kitten food onto general adult cat food?I suspected introducing gradually after 6 months but not sure as I've never done it myself.Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel  Angel Bramble"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Mandy, Wink and Eduardo

2005-10-17 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,

I had some time off from work over the last couple of weeks and it's been terribly bittersweet. Eduardo finally came home; thinner and 'talking' a mile a minute. He was VERY happy to see me (he was gone over 2 weeks) but spooked about going into the house. I finally did get him into the garage after about the 4th day of our 9 day rainfest in the northeast, and I'm obviously thrilled to have him home.

Mandy is starting to go downhill; she is going in tonight for another depo shot. I'd been giving her Cat's Claw and Pau D'arco with some aloe juice in her purees. She has lost a good bit of weight and is having more and more trouble swallowing. She follows me everywhere and cries to be petted and is still working out on the scratching post.

Wink's biopsy came back and she has cancer in the glands of her ear. Her balance is becoming affected and she needs a very specialized kind of surgery, if the cancer has not spread. She's going in tonight as well for evaluation.

I am trying to get them a referral to New England Veterinary Oncologists this week, but I'm afraid it could be too late for Mandy.I was told her prognosis was very poor and the surgical options I was given just didn't seem that they would give her a quality life. I want Wink see an oncologist and let an expert determine the extent of the cancer before we make a decision about whether we should subject her to this surgery, so I want to take Mandy, too, just in case

Last night, Mandy sat on the bed with her paws on my shoulder while I read, and Wink sat on my chest. My precious little girls; I can't believe that I will be without them. I feel broken.

I'm trying to catch up on mail and I send hugs to everyone.

Think a good thought for my girls.

Love, Julie

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Re: OT:PLS help for two things..

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Hideyo,

I am so sorry to hear that you are having problems regarding your kitties; it sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare! I wish you strength to do whatever it takes to get the rules modified so that your kitties are safe and nobody else has to endure such a trial.

Best wishes and a big hug to Hannibal; the ferals are so close to my heart. Can you medicate him at all? The vitamin-iron supplements like Hi-Vite or Pet-Tinic sometimes give me trouble because the volume of the dosage is kind of high and despite the manufacturer claims, I've never met a kitty whod eat it willingly! I've used pediatric iron drops (Fer-In-Sol; you can buy it in the infant's section of most any drugstore) with better luck because it's more concentrated andyou only need a small amount which you can hide more easily in food. I hope this helps and I send you good wishes and lots of hugs for you and the kitties!

Love, Julie
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Hi, my dear friends on the list,

I am so sorry that I have not been posting or responding to your postings – but please know that all of your babies who are having a difficult time right now are in my thoughts and prayer.

I am facing a very difficult situation for my cats and I am trying to fight back and I could use your help – If you know anything about your city ordinance regarding having multiple animals in the residential area or if you could look into it and email it to me, I would be very grateful. The city may try to take all my furry babies away from me due to the stupid ordinance which exist right now in my city (which only allow 10% of your premise size as a defined area where you can have animals, then each animal (if less than 30lb) will require 75 sq – so for example, let’s say, I have 4,000 sq in my premise, they only consider 400 sq as a limitation of the space where could be used for animal site – so if I divide 400 by 75, I could only have 4 or 5 animals, which anyone can have (the number of animals one can have in my city without permit is 4 anyway and will become 6 with new ordinace
 this fall) – this is a stupid law, because it was originally written for hobby breeders where they keep animals in kennels and cages, and they just apply to multiple permit as well, but it does not make sense –

So I am working with a city councilor to revise this information so that anyone in my situation won’t have to deal with it – but I would like to know what other cities may have as there might be something that I could learn –

In the meantime, please pray that they all will be able to stay with me – as the city takes them, you know what’s going to happen – the officers already inspected my house a couple of times, and they are very fine with it  all animals are well taken care of.. they have a very good life - - just the stupid ordinance.. if they don’t grant me a permit, I was advised to request a hearing, which I will do for sure.. but I am hoping that I won’t have to as I don’t want that much visibility in this matter.

PS: also my Hannibal is not eating well – he is CRF kitty, and my vet suggest that he may have FIV due to high globulin value, but I do not agree – I have so many other cats with higher globulin value – but he is becoming anemic, I think it’s due to CRF – please send a prayer for Hannibal that he gets better very very soon! He is my very first feral boy!"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Carts

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Michelle,

I'm so sorry it's not something that could have helped Gemma; she's been so lucky to have such a loving family and good doctor. It sounds as though she's been kitty-like, having nine lives.I just wanted to mention the cart because I didn't know how widespread the use was outside of the US.

I have you all in my thoughts and prayers.

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Julie

Yes thanks I do know about them but they are not appropriate for Gemma unfortunately. She has had deformity in her front legs for 3 years due to arthritis to begin with and could not take excess strain of learning how to use a cart. Aside from her back legs now giving up too she looks unwell - I think there is more going on - she has been vomiting today. But she is 12 and could not put her through bloods or surgery etc... as her prognosis is poor. We took her to be put to sleep in despair when her front legs became deformed and again when she had her stroke but her vet is excellent(specialist in osteo conditions)and she explained everything to us and gave us hope - and since that first time she has had another 3 years - since her CVA another few months. We knew the time would draw in but you never totally expect it when it happens.

Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel Bramble"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: HELP...Skunk

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Gee, Cherie, I have no suggestions on that. My husband once called me on his cell phone from the driveway of our house to '"come and get YOUR skunks off the porch" so he could get in the house! He didn't want to risk getting sprayed and they were dining on the food I keep out there for whoever needs to eat; maybe a cell phone for doggie?? It's always something, isn't it

Good luck!

Julie
Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No tomato juice on hand, but I am going tohave it in the futurehe is getting de-skunked, now I have the house to de skunk.tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

TOMATO JUICE! Bath him in that...works better than anything on the market.Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

My dog got spraqyed by a skunk how do I make him smell better to transport him to the vet for a bathany ideas???
Please help
Cherie
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Wink is home, Eduardo is not

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

Wink came home last night and looks like quite the little Franken-kitty! She wouldn't eat at the vet and wouldn't eat at home. She just wanted to say in her carrier on the fluffy blanket and have us pet her. She was up this morning when I got up and did eat a bit. My husband is on vacation and she was sitting on his lap rubbing her little head on the paper when I left, apparently as happy as a little clam! The side of her face is all shaved and stitched as is the top of her head because they needed to drain there, too. The biopsies won't be back until next week, so we just want to get her eating and keep her cozy.

My sort-of-feral Eduardo has been outside with the outside cats this summer. He's very passive and he has a lot of trouble with Tramp who is a big bully. He was doing well in the little zone he had carved out for himself, but he hasn't been home in over a week. I think it was he who ran from a cat fight I broke up (naturally Tramp was involved) but I couldn't really see; all I saw was a black behind running. My neighbor claims she's seen him in the bushes, but he is not coming when I call him (we had reached the point where he would) and I have not seen him. I put all the outside cats in the garage yesterday and today so I'm hoping, hoping that he feesl safe enough to come home. I miss him so. I can't stand having outside cats; I'm not looking forward to the heating bill, but I will be delighted when the weather turns cold enough that they don't want to leave their beds by the furnace.

All your good thoughts and wishes are so appreciated; it means so much to me to have you all!!!

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: unsubscribing?

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Nikki,

You can unsubscribe at this link:

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RE: HELP...Skunk

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Kerry, I live in a small city but the country is not at all far away and when I was getting on the highway one early spring morning, I thought I saw a dog standing on the side of the road. He loped off and as I got closer I could see it was not a dog, but a coyote (literally less than a mile from my house).
I always have a leash in the car and was preparing to pull over! I sent my husband an email later in the day relating the incident and his response, was, "well, have you found him a home or do we get to name him?"!! If I had skunks snoozing on the couch I don't even know if he'd notice!!

Julie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's pretty funny. Mind you, I don't think anyone's significant other on this list could be blamed for wondering when the day is going to come that theyarrive home tofind a coupla skunks cosying up by the hearth or stretched out on the sofa. Hey, they're all God's creatures, right! :)

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:07 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: HELP...Skunk
Gee, Cherie, I have no suggestions on that. My husband once called me on his cell phone from the driveway of our house to '"come and get YOUR skunks off the porch" so he could get in the house! He didn't want to risk getting sprayed and they were dining on the food I keep out there for whoever needs to eat; maybe a cell phone for doggie?? It's always something, isn't it

Good luck!

Julie
Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No tomato juice on hand, but I am going tohave it in the futurehe is getting de-skunked, now I have the house to de skunk.tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

TOMATO JUICE! Bath him in that...works better than anything on the market.Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

My dog got spraqyed by a skunk how do I make him smell better to transport him to the vet for a bathany ideas???
Please help
Cherie
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RE: Wink is home, Eduardo is not

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks so much, Kerry. Eduardo had become SO much better (since his "jailbreak" days!) he even let me pick him up outside. He was doing very well until we had some thunderstorms and I have a feeling that there was some unpleasantness on the porch where they were all sheltered when I got homeThe cats who do go outside are those who have unilaterally refused to be kept inside (except when the weather is bad, of course!), and although they don't go to the extremes that Eduardo did, they will take any opportunity to make a run for the door. All the other cats have never looked back once they settled onto the sofa! There are a couple who show slight interest and I do feel somewhat guilty sometimes, but I've learned to live with it!"Friends" fans will rembember Joey's line, "Inside good. Outside bad". That's what I tell them!!!

Yep, hubby started his vacation early and the kitties are delighted that they have somebody to join their afternoon nap!

Hugs, Julie
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Wonderful that your husband has taken his vacation to be home with Wink, Julie! (wink!)
Glad to hear she's getting over yesterday's trauma; hope, hope, hope the results are good ones.
And SO hope too that Eduardo feels safe to return home soon.Especially since the little guy has become so trusting of you---from all you say it seems his socialization has taken a quantum leap from the days when he would single-pawedly bust out of his room througha fortified window. I'm sure everyone who knows Eduardo's history particularly joins me in wishing him a safe and speedy return to "mom."
Also sendingtruckloads of positive healing vibes for Wink's speedy diagnosis and recovery.
hugs to you and your furballs, Kerry
(Boy, do I relate to your "I can't stand having outside cats" line. None of mine get to go out now--I just have to live with the feelings of guilt.)


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:28 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Wink is home, Eduardo is not
Hi Everyone,

Wink came home last night and looks like quite the little Franken-kitty! She wouldn't eat at the vet and wouldn't eat at home. She just wanted to say in her carrier on the fluffy blanket and have us pet her. She was up this morning when I got up and did eat a bit. My husband is on vacation and she was sitting on his lap rubbing her little head on the paper when I left, apparently as happy as a little clam! The side of her face is all shaved and stitched as is the top of her head because they needed to drain there, too. The biopsies won't be back until next week, so we just want to get her eating and keep her cozy.

My sort-of-feral Eduardo has been outside with the outside cats this summer. He's very passive and he has a lot of trouble with Tramp who is a big bully. He was doing well in the little zone he had carved out for himself, but he hasn't been home in over a week. I think it was he who ran from a cat fight I broke up (naturally Tramp was involved) but I couldn't really see; all I saw was a black behind running. My neighbor claims she's seen him in the bushes, but he is not coming when I call him (we had reached the point where he would) and I have not seen him. I put all the outside cats in the garage yesterday and today so I'm hoping, hoping that he feesl safe enough to come home. I miss him so. I can't stand having outside cats; I'm not looking forward to the heating bill, but I will be delighted when the weather turns cold enough that they don't want to leave their beds by the furnace.

All your good thoughts and wishes are so appreciated; it means so much to me to have you all!!!

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


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RE: HELP...Skunk

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Tamara, that HAS to be the best story of ALL TIME!!! Too funny; thanks so much for giving me a much-needed laugh!

Julietamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

These are pretty funny! SO, I'll relate the only skunk story I have: A friend of mine in college had a descented skunk as a pet, she lived in a rural area and as a hobby fed all the wild critters...birds, squirrels etc... Her boyfriend, later to be husband, never had animals growing up, but was very fond of all of Char's. Unfortunately he let an indoor only cat of her's out of the house and while they eventually got the cat back, he took a load of lectures on the importance of watching that the animals didn't get out. Anyway, a few weeks after the cat incident, he went over to Char's house and saw "Squiggy" the skunk wondering around the side yard. Happily determined to throw her words back at her, Kevin kept trying to pick up Squiggy hoping to ring the door bell with the beloved escaped pet in his arms and to spout the same LONG lecture back at herafter about three near misses, Char, who had heard his car pull up and was wondering WHY he
 hadn't come in yet went to the door and opened it...the REAL Squiggy in her armsKevin saw her out of the corner of his eye, just as he made a semi successful lunge at the skunk he THOUGHT was Squiggyand got sprayed full on! THAT'S where I learned about using Tomato Juice to cut the stink ...(which by the way Kevin and Char received 40 cans of for their wedding shower!)Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Kerry, I live in a small city but the country is not at all far away and when I was getting on the highway one early spring morning, I thought I saw a dog standing on the side of the road. He loped off and as I got closer I could see it was not a dog, but a coyote (literally less than a mile from my house).
I always have a leash in the car and was preparing to pull over! I sent my husband an email later in the day relating the incident and his response, was, "well, have you found him a home or do we get to name him?"!! If I had skunks snoozing on the couch I don't even know if he'd notice!!

Julie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's pretty funny. Mind you, I don't think anyone's significant other on this list could be blamed for wondering when the day is going to come that theyarrive home tofind a coupla skunks cosying up by the hearth or stretched out on the sofa. Hey, they're all God's creatures, right! :)

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:07 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: HELP...Skunk
Gee, Cherie, I have no suggestions on that. My husband once called me on his cell phone from the driveway of our house to '"come and get YOUR skunks off the porch" so he could get in the house! He didn't want to risk getting sprayed and they were dining on the food I keep out there for whoever needs to eat; maybe a cell phone for doggie?? It's always something, isn't it

Good luck!

Julie
Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No tomato juice on hand, but I am going tohave it in the futurehe is getting de-skunked, now I have the house to de skunk.tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

TOMATO JUICE! Bath him in that...works better than anything on the market.Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

My dog got spraqyed by a skunk how do I make him smell better to transport him to the vet for a bathany ideas???
Please help
Cherie
Have a purrfect day
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RE: Pls Pray for my baby Ceaser

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Hideyo,

Prayers on the way; I have you and all your babies in my thoughts. Is Ceasar dehydrated? A subnormal body temperature is sometimes a byproduct of dehydration. Did the fluids you gave help at all or is it too soon to see a response?

JulieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Ok.. you guys, I need a big prayer and healing energy for my baby Ceaser –
He sort of not wanting to eat at all since last night or so, and that continued on this morning.. his paws were a bit cold and his temperature is lower than usual (was somewhere between 95 or 99)… I know it’s bad when a temperature is going down than having fever and I am so scared! He is hiding right now. I gave him warmed fluid to his tummy and he has a heating pad right now--- but I just can’t afford to lose him! He is the one who swalloed the bottole top a few weeks ago.. I don’t know what’s going on – he still nurses but just does not want to eat off the plate like other babies –

I talked to the vet but there was not anything they can do at this point –please let me know if you have any suggestions – otherwise, please please pray for my Ceaser, that he will only get better very quickly!!

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Re: Gemma

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Michelle,

I am so very sorry for your loss. It sounds as though Gemma had a very peaceful passing with you right beside her. She certainly overcame many health issues to stay with you as long as she possibly could. A photo urn for
her ashes sounds lovely. How lucky you were to have each other for the years you did; still, it's never, ever enough. I hope your many wonderful memories will comfort you and the knowledge that we are all thinking of you and sending warm hugs. 

Love, Julie
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My darling Gemma has gone to the bridge. I asked her brother to come and get her and told Gemma to go to go to sleep and find her brother. I told her not to chase Tidge and Bramble around too much.

We had her put to sleep in the car as I lay at the side of her. I have selected a photo casket for her ashes and will collect her in the morning and take her to the pet crematorium.

Michell, Buddy, Minstrel  Angel Bramble"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Stinky

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
It's wonderful to hear that Stinky will be coming home! I'm sorry though that you don't think she's looking as well as she could; maybe after you speak with the vet you will have more information and feel more comfortable about a treatment plan. I send lots of good thoughts and prayers and a very,very special set of good wishes from Wink (aka: Winky, Winky-Stinky, Winky-Lou, Wink-a-Dink, and herfavorite: WINKY-STINKY-DINKY-DOO!) 

Love, Julie

p.s. It really seems like I have too much time on my hands, huh?"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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RE: Pls Pray for my baby Ceaser

2005-09-29 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Hideyo,

Coming out and meowing sound like positive steps. How old is Ceasar; sometimes on kittens you will feel ribs on the side of the body regardless of weight. Do you know how to 'tent' to check for dehydration? You can either take your thumb and forefinger and slightly squeeze and pull upward a little 'v' of skin between the shoulder blades or back of the neck. If the skin stays up (sort of like a little tent) and takes a few seconds to return to being flat against the body, the animal is likely dehydrated. The skin should normally snap right back. Another way to test is by touching the gums; are they sticky at all? They should not be; they should be smooth and slick. I hope this helps; good thoughts and prayers are on the way.

Love, Julie


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Hi, Julie, thank you for your response. I am at work right now and going home soon as soon as I get my deadline stuff out here – but I did talk to my boyfriend who just checked on Ceaser for me.. and he told me that he came our from his hiding place when he visited him meowing (which is a good sign, I hope) and he seemed home he said.. I will check his temperature as soon as I get home…it’s very possible that he was (is dyhydrated) – I felt a little bone in his body.. are you supposed to feel any bone on side of rib at all??? I just don’t know..





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:09 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Pls Pray for my baby Ceaser


Dear Hideyo,



Prayers on the way; I have you and all your babies in my thoughts. Is Ceasar dehydrated? A subnormal body temperature is sometimes a byproduct of dehydration. Did the fluids you gave help at all or is it too soon to see a response?



JulieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok.. you guys, I need a big prayer and healing energy for my baby Ceaser –
He sort of not wanting to eat at all since last night or so, and that continued on this morning.. his paws were a bit cold and his temperature is lower than usual (was somewhere between 95 or 99)… I know it’s bad when a temperature is going down than having fever and I am so scared! He is hiding right now. I gave him warmed fluid to his tummy and he has a heating pad right now--- but I just can’t afford to lose him! He is the one who swalloed the bottole top a few weeks ago.. I don’t know what’s going on – he still nurses but just does not want to eat off the plate like other babies –

I talked to the vet but there was not anything they can do at this point –please let me know if you have any suggestions – otherwise, please please pray for my Ceaser, that he will only get better very quickly!!

Hidyeo

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Re: Buddy's op

2005-09-27 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Michelle,

It's wonderful to hear that Buddy did so well yesterday and was obviously feeling fine when she returned home!

I'm so sorry to hear about Gemma; it's just heartbreaking. Do you know about the K9-carts that can be used for animals who've lost use of their back legs? I don't know if it would be appropriate for Gemma, but I'd be happy to look up the information for you if you thought it would be an option to help her and help her stay with you longer. Take care.

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Buddy had her dental yesterday - she cried all the way there and made me feel so guilty. She had a scrape and polish and no extraction necessary. Got her tested for FeLV too whilst she was asleep. She was excited to get back home and was scaling curtains within a couple of hours bless her.On a sadder note I have to put to sleep my one of my girls (Gemma) on Thursday. She is a 12 year old German Shepard crossbreed bitch who has had arthritis in her front and back legs for a few years and had a CVA just before the death of my Tidge in March this year. We got her through it with the vet but her legs have been getting weaker as of late and have basically given up this week. Had her from 8 weeks old - so heartbreaking but she is now getting depressed and can't get to the toilet without us holding her back end up in a sling (bath towel). Got to let her join her brother and Bramble
 and Tidge at the Bridge.Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel Bramble"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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More news on Wink

2005-09-27 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

Thank you all for your good thoughts and wishes and, Nina, thank you for that link; I'll surely investigate it. Wendy called a few minutes ago from the OR, she said she got two good pieces of the growth for biopsy and also found via (x-ray? ultrasound?) Wink has another small growth in the other ear; too deep to biopsy, but it makes me wonder (and she said, too) if these could be polyps or some other benign type of growth. The other interesting thing she said that might be playing a part in this is that she found one of Wink's rear teeth (she doesn't have many!) was broken at the gum line (just looked like one of many missing teeth from a quick exam)and the root was still there and terribly infected. She said she didn't think it accounted for everything that was going on, but said it was suspicious that it's on the side that won't heal. She thinks the root may have been a constant souce of wicking the bacteria far into the ear, head and
 cheek. It's very strange because in this very strange year of 2005 something very similar happened to a good friend's dad. He has a history of heart problems and began having chest, arm and back pain and was rushed to the ER. He was given the all clear from a cardiac standpoint, yet he continued to feel severe pain to the point that they had to treat him with morphine. After many, many days in the hospital, it was found that he had an infected root in a back molar (no, the TOOTH did not hurt at all) and it had spread a severe infection throughout his upper torso.It sounds like something similar could be going on with Wink! He had to be treated with IV antibiotics (I know there was a reason they said taking them by mouth wouldn't help, but I can't remember it!) and maybe that's why Wink has only had partial response all these weeks.

I'll let you know when I know more.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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I know they are playing at the bridge

2005-09-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear MaryChristine,

I sosorry to hear about your little fellow. I know that Paulie and Grace have taken him under their (angel) wings. They are certainly so happy to be feeling well again and exploring their new kingdom. Between finding the friends who were waiting for them and making lots of new friends, choosing between chicken and shrimp for a snack, cozy bed testing, etc., I'll bet they've been busy.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Home Testing

2005-09-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Hey Karen,

My friend Joan talked the vet into doing the blood draw and using the test she purchased herself and brings to the appointment; maybe you could try something like that. She doesn't have consistent help and since you need 10 arms to hold some kitties for a blood draw, this way is working for her.

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Paulie

2005-09-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,

Please keep Paulie in your thoughts. He is my feral who is CRF. He's been eating less and starting last night began to vocalize. It's not an agonal scream, but it's very unusual for him. He never meows or makes any other sound. He did it again this morning (he was in the bathroom where he never ventures). He at first let me pick him up, but then got scared and jumped so I had to towel him and get him set up in the mudroom. He's so very thin. I've made arrangements to pick up a tranquilizer for him and then take him in this afternoon to be euthanized. My beautiful boy with his soft, smoky grey stripes; my heart is just breaking. He went through so much with his eye only to have this happen at only 7 years of age.I hope that he will cross peacefully.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Gracie is at peace now

2005-09-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Nina,

I am so happy she gave you that last precious gift. Revel in the precious gift of all the memories you have of her. She received many lifetimes of love in the short time she was here. Take care of yourselves; you're in my thoughts and prayers.

Love, JulieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Mary Christine, and thank you to everyone that has been there with us throughout our journey together. Your support has meant the world to us. Grace is free now. She was more than ready to go, she was anxious to go. She knew two days ago, I knew yesterday. Thankfully she didn't seem to suffer too much in her last days, just very tired, very ready. I'm glad it was our beloved Dr. Ortega that helped her across. She never left my touch and I spoke to her the whole time. It was gentle and peaceful, Dr. Ortega was kind and considerate, just like we knew she would be. There was no trouble finding a vein in her back leg. Blessings to those who know what they are doing. She even purred when we entered the exam room. She had been pulling away from me these last couple of days. That may have been the hardest aspect of her passing,
 that while she was still here she was already breaking the ties that held her to this world. I began mourning her two days ago when I knew she would never again jump gaily in my lap. Never again be my "heart warmer". I was asking her to let me warm her heart now, let me get her heart chakra spinning, as she'd done for me so many times. I thought that was never to be again. When we sat peacefully waiting for the doctor and the gurney, she gave me the most wonderful gift. She stretched herself out on her back in my arms and luxuriated in my scratching her neck and her chest. I am so grateful that she chose to be my heart warmer one more time, that she came back to me before she had to finally leave her wonderful little body behind. Bruce and I have just buried her in one of her favorite spots, a spot that she would sit and watch and listen and nap for hours. It was so hard to let go of her perfect little body for the last time.
 Because, you see, it was perfect. I told her that all the time. That she was perfect, just the way she was. I wouldn't change a thing about knowing her and loving her. She has been an incredible joy in my life and she always will be.The first time we almost lost her she was only 5 mos old. Gracie has trusted me to decide what was best for her, she has been my willing partner in trying to find a way to help her stay. It was time to trust her, she knew what was best. We were partners, we were friends, she was my girl and she welcomed me as her mommy without fur. I thank her for her gifts to me and for the lessons we learned together.Much love,NinaTenHouseCats wrote:oh, nina--i'm so sorry. this is the first time i've had the computer up in morethan a day--glorious thunderstorms all day yesterday, so i believethat grace is at the bridge as i write this.all GLOW to her
 to find her way safely, and to heal your heart...i really liked the illusion of a great heart being able to break timeand time again, and still have room to love again. someone said oncethat the pain we feel when they leave is their little claws diggingtheir permanent, forever place in our hearts.i've done things every way there is--holding on too long for ME,rather than for them (i don't do that anymore, tho it's "easier" inways to do so), having the vet come to the house (my preferred waywhen the cat needs my help to cross), rushing a kitty to the emergencyvet at 4 in the morning when they are clearly suffering, holding theirpaw as they consciously let go, holding them in my arms, against myheart, even after their spirits are long gone but they haven't quitebeen able to leave their bodies behind; i've begged them to let go andgo home, i've begged the universe to
 let them stay with me, i'vewanted to scream to the vet, "no! what if i'm wrong, what if it's notreally time?," i've gone to get the valium to help them relax only toreturn to find they'd gone on without me; i've held them in my armswhen that's what they seemed to want, and let them be alone whenthat's what they wanted--tho that is the HARDEST for me, to respecttheir need to transition in their own space; i've done mouth-to-snoutresuscitationi have learned to listen to them, knowing that they are much wiserabout the cycles of life than i will ever be. i make sure they knowhow much i love them, that i will ALWAYS love them, i thank them forsharing their lives with me, and i tell them they are free to go whenit is time. i ask them to tell me if they need my help; i talk to themabout their kittenhoods, and how much fun we've had together, and how,at the bridge,
 they will have young healthy bodies again and can doall the things the current body can't do any longer... . i DO believethat euthanasia is often the final gift that we can give them inreturn for all they have given us--the most profound thing i've everbeen told is that it's better 

Grace and MacKenzie

2005-09-22 Thread Julie Johnson

My Dear Friends,

You are faced with, quite possibly, the hardest decision in the world. My heart breaks for you. It's completely natural for any human being with a compassionate soul to question the course of action. It's also completely natural to second-guess and change our minds and hope for a second and despair for a minute and on and on. Nina, Chappy literally turned away from me, too, when he was dying. I felt he was telling me he didn't want to go on. I had called the day before to make and appointment to euthanize him, and as soon as the receptionist answered, we were disconnected. I felt it was a sign and did not call back. He seemed to perk up a bit, but only rallied for a few hours before he continued his downhill slide and turned away from me. 

If you choose to euthanize, I want you to know that I have euthanized kitties who were extremely thin and it'sunusual for the vet to have difficulty locating a vein. You might ask for an injection of a tranquilizer before the injection to euthanize is given. I had to do that with Little Evie because she struggled; she was in terrible pain. It gave us about 15 minutes together where she was just very drowsy and physically relaxed and when we proceeded, it was much easier for her.

Nina and Janine, know that you are in my thoughts and prayers, as surely as Grace and MacKenzie are.I am so sorry and so terribly sad for all.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Atlanta and Athens :(

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Terri,

I am so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you. They couldn't have had a more loving home for their too-short lives. Take care.

Love, JulieBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh Terri, I'm so sorry you had to make that decision, but glad you had it as an option and that you did the kindest thing you knew. Our thoughts and tears are with you. HUGSTerri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Atlanta (white with tabby) and Athens (grey tabby) born 4-3-05, wereboth pts yesterday Both had FELV (tested 2 times) and Atlanta couldhardly walk and Athens was on his way. Decided to let them go gentlyand with out anymore pain. These are the last two of the five siblingsthat tested positive. The one brother - Rome, tested negative 2 monthsago, retested yesterday and is still negative, he will now be adoptedout.I hope I never have this disease again, but I am sure I will being thatI do rescue. This has made me realize what a horrible disease this isalong with FIP . 3 of the 5 died from FIP but I am sure it wasbecause of the FELV and their immune systems not being able to fightanything off :(We seem to have a high rate of FIP in this area .. :(Heavy heavy heart in Oakdale, CATerrips please add them to the
 candle lite service for Monday - thank you--Terri Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh OftenBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous


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Re: My dear little Claudette

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Bonnie,

How terrible; first the blow of the diagnosis and then the reaction to the treatment. I know how heavy your heart must be. She certainly had a wonderful life with you and it's obvious you have many treasured memories. I'm sure that Philippe was waiting for her and one of her headbutts that he'd been missing. Take care of youself.

Love, Julie BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Belinda,Please add my dear little Claudette to the Candlelight service. She passed today at the age of twelve. She had cancer of the liver and died from a reaction to the chemo which was just started yesterday. Claudette had thrown off the leukemia virus eight years ago when my kitties were exposed to the virus from a kitten who had originally tested negative. Her brother Phillipe became positive and died within two years. Claudette and Phillipe were two beautiful grey and black tabbies with white feet and copper markings. She and Phillipe had prominent black rings on their grey tails, just like a raccoon. Her cute little nose was half white, half copper, and she had the loud insistant meow of her Siamese mother, Mitou. Claudette, Phillipe, Andre, and Sylvie were all born in my son's closet. When they were tiny,
 Phillipe, the "leader of the pack" would climb up my leg into my lap with Claudette right behind. Then would come black Andre. I would have to pick up the very small Sylvie who was born with hypernatremia and wasn't well coordinated. Then all of the kittens would snuggle in my lap and fall asleep - it was a thrill, even though their clawing their way up was a tad painful. Claudie was also the best of all my kitties with the head butts. She was like a caring older sister to the sick kitties and would always hover close by them as if to offer comfort. The sudden onset of the cancer and her loss this morning was a big shock. But now I hope she has found her brother Phillipe and they are together again - my two little ringtails.Bonnie in WI"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its
 moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Our Beautiful Salome'

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Oh, Terri, my heart goes out to you and your husband. I know how loved Salome was and I know what a terrible time this is for your family. I hope it helps to know that others are thinking of you and I hope you can feel some comfort from all your wonderful memories of your beautiful girl. She's surely lounging about on a big, fluffy-puffy cloud looking down on you like the angel that she is. Take care of yourselves.

Love, Julie
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Terri,Your pictures are adorable... It's so hard to lose them. This has been a bad week for animals all around, several friends here lost animals this week.My thoughts are with you.Steph Thanks so much for that Susan. She truly was Daddy's Girl. Mutual  Admiration Society from the day Danny brought her home.  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 5  furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' =^..^=  Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page:  http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350  - Original Message - From: Susan Loesch  To:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Our Beautiful Salome'  Terri, I love the Daddy's Girl picture on your web site. I know you both are grieving and I send you hugs and prayers.  Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:  Maybe this is what I get for bragging.  Our Big Beautiful Girl, her Daddy's Salome', has left us for the Rainbow Bridge as of 10:15 AM this morning.  She had been doing so well -- was sick only once in her whole life, last summer. She got over that URI all by herself, without antibiotic. She stopped eating just about 5 days ago.  No visible reason, but then she started vomiting, and had loose stool. We finally took her to the vet on Wednesday thinking maybe she had swallowed something that
 was causing stomach distress. We checked her for blockage, and ran a blood panel.  X-rays were clear. Some distension due to gas, but no foreign objects or anything. However, her white cell count was 8, her kidneys were not functioning to capacity, and her liver was in end stage failure. We brought home an anti-emitic and amoxi-drops, but she still refused to eat, would not allow force feeding, and vomited up the medication.  This morning, she had bloody diarrhea and bloody urine. Her Daddy (my husband Dan) finally saw that he needed to end her pain. Her bottom was all swollen and leaky and her bones were starting to show. She was looking hollow -- not much of her left when she would make eye contact.  I have a splitting headache. My husband is weeping, and beating himself up over this, even though we know that she was suffering and is now
 free from her pains. Now she is free to romp and play with her sisfurs and her brofurs that have gone before her -- especially her litter-mate Ruthie-Girl, who has been waiting for her sisfur Salome' at the Rainbow Bridge for 9 years.  Whether or not she was truly FeLV+ I don't really know -- but I am grateful that I had the privilege of sharing her life on earth. I thank God that He entrusted her to our care, and that she saw fit to bring us her baby brofur Travis to taker her place in playing with the soda bottle caps and paper bags. He is so much liker her already, it's scary. He's like both of them -- Salome' and Ruthie both.  The furkid photos link in my signature has pictures of her for any of you who don't remember what she looked like, or for those of you who just want to take another look.  To my felvtalk family -- Please add her to the
 next Candle light service? I thank God every day that He provided this list. I don't think I would have gotten through these past 6 years without all of you to fall back on -- in both times of sorrow and in times of joy.  Goodnight, my sweet darling Salome'...  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec and Salome' =^..^=  Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness
 of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: I'M BACK

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Karen!

How wonderful to hear from you! It's great to have you back!

Juliecatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great to hear from you Karen! I had been worried about you!tonya--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am Karen from Texas some of you may remember me and my positive  babies... Gloria you still here arent you? Belinda keeps my website...love ya  Dont have any positives right now but a few katrina kittens and they drank  the water and they are not very healthy.. "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think
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Re: new cat coming--advice needed

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Kerry,

How wonderful that you have a new family member! He's a lucky little fellow to be going to your home!

I would try scent-swapping for a few days; give him a blanket and the other kitties a blanket and then trade them after a day and let them become accustomed to each other's smell. It's so hard to decide how to integrate. I generally do set up a cage at least for a couple of days; I think it helps the new kitty feel secure (I drape the cage with a blanket and raise it a little bit each day and give them a box to cuddle in) and everybody gets used to sounds and smells and then interest takes over! Sometimes a first reaction will get stuck in their wee heads and a even a good-natured cat can get off on the wrong foot, er, paw! After a few days I would open the cage door and start a play session; hopefully they'll all get involved and associate face-to-face contact with something pleasureable. Might want to have the sliced chicken breast ready, too!

As far as mixing them, I think I would. It sounds like Momcat is either naturally immune or (and I know this is miserable to contemplate) a latent carrier. 

I wish you all the best with your new little fellow!

Love, Julie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear friends, I need some advice!

One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice).
Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom.

I have 2 Qs--

1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. 
Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 

2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough.

All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry
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Re: My ANGEL Sebastian

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Jennifer,

My thoughts and prayers are with you and Sebastian; I know how hard this is. I hope the tests will give you the answers you need. Take care.

Julie JENNIFER RATLIFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I have not written for so long because I feel that I have given up hope. Sebastian has not been doing very well. He can no longer walk and he relies on me to take him to the litter box and to feed him. He still has a good appetite. He seems so depressed now. I am so heart broken that I cry almost daily. I am not strong enough to let him go. I feel that it isn't up to me to play god and that he will go when he is ready. He just keeps fighting. He is so much braver than me. I took him to the Virginia Tech Veterinary hospital on August 1st. They were wanting to run alot of tests. The tests were very risky, so I decided against them. Now I feel that I have no choice and I have to find out what is wrong with him and see if there is something that can be done. I don't know what I will do without him. I am so scared of losing him."I hold that, the more
 helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: new babies

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Gloria,

Congratulations to you and Susan on your new additions!

That vaccination protocol sounds something (and believe me, not only is my head spinning, but my hair is hurting!) like using nosodes rather than vaccines. I looked into it a bit and don't fully understand it, but it seems to me that there is a homeopathic principal (like cures like?) of using the FeLV nosodes on an FeLV+ kitty to try and eliminate the virus. I do have some vague memory of hearing about this but it's not widely done and I don't have an homeopathic vet so I didn't pursue it. Maybe this vet was trying a similar strategy to challenge the immune system. Very interesting.

Julie
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OK folks - thanks to the Purring Pixie list, we now have 4 new FELV babies here in Little Rock. They went to Missouri first, but then we had a couple of openings and Missouri allowed them to come to us. I have two, and Susan is taking two.Have you heard of this - They had FELV as babies, and the lady's vet told her to vaccinate them for FELV 3 times a year - CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING I BELIEVED! I always heard you weren't supposed to vaccinate FELV cats for FELV. Makes my head spin around - which is scarey :)They're 8.5 years old, and all 4 are healthy, going strong! They are:Oliver- 8 1/2 yr old male, white with black on head and tail and black spot on chin, about 12 lbsPhoebe- 8 1/2 year old female, tortoise shell, very rotund, close to 20 lbsChloe- 8 1/2 yr old female, grey tabby with white feet and white chest, small build
 with big belly, about 9 lbsFelicity- 8 1/2 year old female, white with black mark on top of head and black tail, small build, 7 lbsI just wanted to tell everybody, and put out that vaccination protocol, to see if anybody else had heard that.Gloria"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Pet friendly hotels in Arkansas--Rita evacuation!

2005-09-21 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Jen,

You all are in my thoughts and prayers; go now and be safe. I'm in Connecticut and we have had small hurricanes in my lifetime, but I can't conceive of the damage that has happened as a result of Katrina. Don't take any chances. It sounds like you will have to evacuate; get somewhere safe and try to let us know how you are.
Love, Julie

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Hi All!Well, it looks like a mandatory evacuation may be scheduled for our area(SE Houston) by Thursday morning due to Rita...I'm hoping beyond hopethat the hurricane will change course, but we're not taking any chances!If we have to leave, the animals are coming with us which means 2 dogs,7 cats and a bearded dragon crammed into two cars...our plan is to headnorth to Indiana where our parents live...but we will probaby make a pitstop in Arkansas overnight...does any one know of any pet friendlyhotels in the state? I'm hoping that whatever hotel we choose will pityour brood...but you never know! Wish us luck and pray the hurricanedoesn't do too much damage...and, most of all, keep our Feleuk guys inyour thoughts!Take care,Jen"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it
 is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Grace update

2005-09-15 Thread Julie Johnson
It's wonderful to hear some good news, Nina! You GO, Grace!

Love, Julie

p.s. I know exactly what you mean about the house! The house next door just went up for sale and if I could afford it, I'd just moveNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the list. Just to many things on my plate. I feel like no matter how early I get up, or how late I go to bed, I still can't get done what needs to be done. Looking at the state of my house, you'd assume I was sitting on my butt eating bon bons and watching TV.Grace's vet visit yesterday went really well, at least as far as the trauma involved. She was such a good girl! My Internist gave her a thorough physical exam, and except for the fact that she's lost 2 lbs and her eyes were unevenly dilated, she said she looks really good, (her breathing is fine, no swollen lymph nodes, etc.). She couldn't tell if Grace still has a heart murmur, because she was purring too loud to hear her heart properly! What an angel my Gracie is. The Internist said we could do blood work, but unless there's a
 problem with one of her organs, which neither one of us thinks there is, it wouldn't show anything conclusive. She suggested putting her on Baytril, sent me home with subq fluids, (even though she's not dehydrated), and Dex shots, (just in case). She also gave me some samples of novel protein dry foods for Grace to try, (she's not eating and she's always liked dry food, so what the heck). I'm trying to finish up the questionnaire from the holistic practitioner, so we can get started on that. Grace did eat a bit last night and seems to have a renewed desire to fight. I feel more hopeful this morning.I just gave her her first dose of Baytril, syringed some babyfood, colostrum and Nutrical down her, (not enough, the darn syringe stuck and I put too much pressure on it so it exploded food all over my hand), and put some transdermal Cypro on her ear. I think her belly is bothering her, so I may try a 1/4 Pepcid later.
 Love and prayers to all those in trouble, and those of you who aren't as well!Nina"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple in thebottle..

2005-09-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Hey Hideyo,

I think of all the things a kitten could swallow, the soft rubber tip of the bottle is probably the best!I would imagine it will pass thru without much fuss; so you get to be on "Poop Patrol"!

It's always something, isn't it?

Love, Julie

Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Hideyo,Keep giving your baby the formula and make sure you stimuate him to peeand poop afterward. The rubber tip is soft enough that it shouldn'tscratch up his "innards", so all you can do right now is help him toeliminate it. Athena, my little blind kitty did the same thing, althoughshe was about 7 weeks old, and she was fine.Kat (Mew Jersey)On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:25:07 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple in thebottle.. I need your advise - my 5 week old baby, Ceaser chewed and bite off the top of the nipple (rubber) of the bottle - not the whole top, but
 about a half or 1/3 - I took him to the vet.. and he felt that the time has passed so it's too late for trying to make him throw up ... he said that I will have to watch the sign of vomiting and stuff... when I left the house this moring.. he was sort of hiding which he does not do usually --- so now I am worried.. any advise?? (I was told that I need to keep feeding him often to flush it out..)"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Need advice

2005-09-14 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Michelle,

Do Patches teeth appear to be loose at all? Ketamine might be a way to go without the risk of general anesthesia as long as the extractions don't require actual surgery.

Chappy (FeLV+) was neutered under Ketamine; I didn't want to risk GA with him, but I felt he was really being stressed by being sexually intact. He was fine with the procedure; he was symptomatic and I did ultimately lose him, but he had no problems tolerating Ketamine.

Bleau had an abcessed tooth pulled under Ketamine; he's negative and the tooth was very loose. The Ketamine doesn't keep them out too long and so for a procedure that is under about 15 minutes, it might be something to consider. 

Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Thanks, Nina. Lucy is actually doing ok. She has blood in her urine, but it is only visible sometimes, and she seems generally ok. I may wait it out until Friday and do the cystocentisis (urine sample via needle) and the bacteria-sensitive culture. 

As for Patches, my gut says not to do any oral surgery if she is feeling ok, but I really am not sure about that. She could be having effects from the broken teeth that I can not see. But for a 5 year old positive, I am inclined to leave well enough alone for fear of triggering the disease. As you know, though, if the broken teeth are painful or are wicking bacteria into her system, this could trigger the disease too. I had not thought of caps. I think I will do some internet research on whether this is a possibility. Thanks.
Michelle

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Hello Michelle,How is Lucy doing now? How terrifying to have her symptoms be so pronounced and not be able to do anything for her for a week! I know how difficult it is to want to do SOMETHING, and not know what the best course is. The decisions we are forced to make for our oh so dependent loved ones are never easy. I wish I could give you better advice, but all I can say is listen to your intuition. Momma really does know best.As far as Patches goes... If her teeth haven't been bothering her, I'd probably leave them the hell alone. Too bad they can't be filed or capped with out general anesthesia. If the dentist says he thinks they should be pulled, I'd ask about filling/capping them instead. At any rate, she's probably better off going through whatever procedure you think necessary
 while she's healthy. As always, I'm thinking about you and yours, praying for good health for them and clear choices for you.Nina
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Re: Geroge's passing

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Oh, Hideyo, I am so sorry to hear that George has left you. Feral cats can just break our hearts when we have to make decisions about whether to offer them treatment. I am going through that now with Paulie and I know how difficult it was for you with George. Please know that he couldn't have had a better home than with you. Take care of yourself and picture George happy and healthy, napping peacefully on a soft, fluffy cloud.

Love, JulieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hi, my beloved George whom I rescued two month ago crossed the bridge yesterday – he had a very labored breathing for the past few days, the vet felt that he was having a hard time overcoming URI due to the compromised immune system from FIV – he had been so well, he had a very good appetite.. but he never could really gain weight. He was very jaundiced and yellow ness did not really go away,, but he was doing so good..though,, Since he is a feral boy,, I really did not want to stress him out taking him to a vet all the time…..though. I did sense the his last days might have been approaching as I felt that it must have been painful to breath so heavily.. and he was getting so skinny regardless of his appetite…the vet thought that his throat was very inflamed, and was going to call him the first thing yesterday morning to see if I could give him predisone… but he did not make it
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I must have know that something was going to happen that morning, because I couldn’t sleep since 4 am that day..I was so nervous and was wide awake, kept thinking of George… I would go check the room and see how he was doing.. and would go back (he would get stressed more if I were around since he is a feral boy).. so I would go back,, one time, I heard really loud breathing, and I saw him trying to eat the food from the plate.. so I wanted to leave him alone so he could eat.. so I did.. and an half hour later or an hour.. I went back into the room.. and I did not hear his breathing noise in the room.. I got so scared… and I looked around..and called his name..and he was lying on the floor by the food plate with his eyes and mouth open.. and I ran over to him and held him… he was still warm.. but he had passed already.. I cried and cried and held him, and I wrapped him with a blanket..
 and put him on the table by the window…. He looked so painful with his eyes and mouth were open.. and I wish that they weren’t.. but then, an interesting thing happened.. I went back to visit George by the window in the room an half hour later .. and this time.. his eyes and mouth were completely closed and he looked so peaceful.. looked like he was just sleeping..with no more pain…

I have lots of regrets for thing I have done or I haven’t done for George.. things that I would regret for the rest of my lives and things that ended up shortening his lives and things that I would never forgive myself for.. but. I talked to Jasmine, my AC this morning and she talked to George for me.. and I still feel very sad, but I also feel very peaceful. George is doing fabulous right now, he said... he is a little sad.. but he is feeling very good. We talked about a lot of things.. but at the end he told me that.. don’t think that he is just a little helpless cat,, he is much more.. especially now,, he is free, and he can be an advisor for me --- as I do have a tendency to try to control every situation I encounter.. and I beat up myself when I can’t for..so anyway, he gave me some advise which I found very very helpful to continue my life..
George said that he would like to meet me again,, probably not in my life time… I left the conversation, asking him that if he would talk to me again.. and he said yes.. I told him that I love him and will miss him very much…. And at the end,, he told me that he loves me, too…. George has been always a little feral boy.. and it meant the world to me to know that he loves me….I buried him at his favorite spot in the garden.. the place he used to hang out…

Thank for all the prayers you have given for George in the past… now George has passed..please pray that George will be continue to be happy, and continue to have a good life and that some day…I will meet him soon.

Hideyo"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Nina,

Healing wishes and prayers on the way for Princess Grace, and for you, too. It's sometimes so hard to know what is best to do and we have to weigh so many variables when making these decisions. My husband has always told me (because I have to re-think and re-live every choice I make!) that if you believe what you did was right at the moment in time that you did it, it stands in time as the right choice. So much of what we do for our animals (I think more so than making choices for ourselves) is based on instinct, yet we've been told over and over in many ways that instinct is wrong and we need to concentrate on facts. I think as a culture we've learned to devalue our instincts. Right now, I am wishing I hadn't done the biopsy on Mandy. They needed so many samples and from so deep under her tongue, that the surgery for the biopsy has left her tongue crooked and is making it that much more diffult for her to eat. I knew that if it was an
 oral cancer that treatment options were limited. If it was a granuloma it would have started (most likely) to respond to steriod therapy. So why didn't I just try the steroids first? I just have to focus on having done what I thought was best at the time I made the decision.

I know that Grace could not be in better, move loving hands.

Love, JulieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of months. Usually when she feels crummy I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her appetite is off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal
 Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stress involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different
 antibiotic in case Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could take a moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly appreciated.Nina"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Another one - Bridge

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Terri, I am so sorry for Marietta and for you. I can well believe that all these terrible losses are literally making you sick; it's so hard. I hope you can find comfort in knowing that they couldn't have been more loved. Sending you a big, big hug.

Love, JulieTerri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sad news - Marietta (the only female in the litter) had to be pts today- she was not breathing hardly at all. Not sure if FIP or not butshe was suffering but now she isn't - doesn't make it any easier, I amgoing to miss her sweet little face rubbing my leg and arm when it wasfeeding time .This is just making me ill,, been losing one a week - 3 gone in 3weeks. Atlanta will be next ,, I can see it in his eyes. Athens isreally active, alert - eating well and not at all skinny like his sisteror brothers. He just might beat this and then it will all be worthit. There are 3 siblings left, 2 FelV pos ,, one sibling isnegative, I watch him like a hawk, he seems fine though.TerriPlease add her to the candle lite service April 3, 2005 - Sept 8, 2005She was a grey tabby with emerald green eyes. She is the sister ofAlbany
 and Macon.--Terri Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh Often"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Wonderful article on laser and other toys

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

I've been reading the thread about laser toys and I wanted to send the link for this article:

http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action="">

It's by Dr. Jean Hofve and was in one of her free newsletters. They're wonderful! You can subscribe at www.littlebigcat.com

We had a few cats, most especially Cookie, who would sit and stare and paw at the drawer where the laser toy was kept. After I read this article, it all made sense (duh! could I get any blonder?); they were frustrated because they needed somthing to complete their hunting experience. The needed a "kill"! I bought some dog toys which are essentially stuffed tubes of canvas with little animal heads. The are about 9 inches long and 3-4 inches in circumference. The kitties are able to get it in a 4-paw grip and kick and kill! Once they seem to be winding down,I pick up the "kill" toys and put them away as they are for a specific purpose. It has really worked well; they don't sit and stare at the drawer anymore and they have a great time with their workout.

Hope this is helpful!

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Nina,

I am hoping and praying that Grace is improving. Next time I am definately coming back as the kitty, not the caretaker!

I am literally sprouting white hairs! They aren'ttoo noticeable because I'm blonde, but I see them in the harsh light of day. And I am not amused.

Love and hugs to you and Grace, JulieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Julie for your wise and kind words. Your's and your husband's logic about decision making is impeccable. Of course, I have been second guessing myself about not taking Grace in to the vet. I think she's slowly improving, but it's hard to tell. As far as doing the biopsy on Mandy... In hindsight it appears to you that you should have just tried steroids first, and maybe that would have been the way to go. But what if you had tried the steroids, seen no improvement, and then had to do further exploratories anyway? We just never know. I spoke with Hideyo after she lost her sweet George. She was upset at herself for having had to crate him the last days of his life, (in order to administer meds). But what if she hadn't? She would have thought that he passed because she wasn't able to give him his meds! When we take on the
 responsibility of an animal we are put in the position of having to imagine that we have control over these situations. How else could we make any choices at all? Ultimately, we know that we don't have the control we think we do. All we can do is follow our best instincts, pray for guidance, do our best to not add to the suffering of our loved ones and not add to our burdens by beating ourselves up over the decisions we are forced to make.Much love to you and yours my dear,NinaJulie Johnson wrote: Dear Nina,  Healing wishes and prayers on the way for Princess Grace, and for you,  too. It's sometimes so hard to know what is best to do and we have to  weigh so many variables when making these decisions. My husband has  always told me (because I have to re-think and re-live every choice I  make!) that if you believe what you did was right at the moment in  time that you did it,
 it stands in time as the right choice. So much  of what we do for our animals (I think more so than making choices for  ourselves) is based on instinct, yet we've been told over and over in  many ways that instinct is wrong and we need to concentrate on facts.  I think as a culture we've learned to devalue our instincts. Right  now, I am wishing I hadn't done the biopsy on Mandy. They needed so  many samples and from so deep under her tongue, that the surgery for  the biopsy has left her tongue crooked and is making it that much more  diffult for her to eat. I knew that if it was an oral cancer that  treatment options were limited. If it was a granuloma it would have  started (most likely) to respond to steriod therapy. So why didn't I  just try the steroids first? I just have to focus on having done what  I thought was best at the time I made the decision.   I know that
 Grace could not be in better, move loving hands.  Love, Julie */Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of months. Usually when she feels crummy I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her
 appetite is off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stress involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has
 been learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could 

Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Trying to hang in there, Sheila. Thanks so much for your supprot and kindness.

Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh Julie what a terrible time you are having. How do you cope with so many heartaches at one time? I know that what ever you decide to do, it will be the best for Mandy,Paulie and Cosmo. God bless you. Sheila "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Barb,

Your kind words and support mean the world to me; what would I do without you all?

Love, JulieBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh Julie,
I'm so sorry the medical news is so poor I'm positive you will make the right decisions for each of your babies based on who they are and what they can and can't handle. We are all with you and your husband always, supporting and caring.
HUGSJulie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have somesad news to share. First, Mandy's biopsies are back and she has oral squamous cell carcinoma. The entire back of her tongue is involved. We are consulting a surgeon, but her prognosis is very poor, indeed. The surgery would be horrendous (possibly removing part of her jaw, too), followed by radiation therapy. Even with this extreme treatment, the recurrance rate for this kind of cancer is very high; I understand sometimes within just a couple of months. Mandy is a sweet little girl (Tater Tot's sister) who loves to come visit on her terms, but does not like being handled. Medicating her and syringe-feeding are nearly impossible.I'm not sure at this point what we will do or not do.

Paulie, (the father of Mandy and Tater) is 7 years old and is in renal failure.
He is feral and although I can capture him when I have to, I would need to keep him in his own room to get treatment. When he had the corneal ulcer, it was a much different story and we had a treatment plan and a projected outcome. For CRF, I can't see imposing that on him just to keep him a bit longer. He is eating again and seems a bit more like himself (won't let me pet him!) so we'll just see how he does.

Cosmo has a dislocated ankle and according to the consulting radiologist, it cannot be splinted. He would need surgery to have the bones fused and he would then have a stiff leg that he couldn't bend at the wrist. I have to investigate this more, because we all agree that he is starting to put more weight on the leg and the bones may actually be fusing in this position which is not much different than it would be after surgery. Again, not sure how we will proceed for him. Hedoes not seem to be in any pain; you can move his leg every which-way and he does not make a peep or try to pull his paw away. He just obviously favors the leg.

I'm just overwhelmed by all this. It's breaking my heart. Having so many cats, I knew that a day would likely come when I had several who were ill all at the same time, and that has certainly happened before. I've not faced or dealt with so many probably being terminal, though. I suppose one can never fully prepare for that emotionally.

Thanks for listening, everyone, and please keep my "kids" in your thoughts.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


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Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Kerry,

Thank you so much for your good thoughts and for sharing that information. I'm going to speak to her vet today about getting pred compounded into a transdermal formula that I can rub on her ear. I made her a 'soup' last night and she had a much easier time eating it. Tonight I think I'll get out the food processor and make an even soupier puree for her. I made the soup with George's aloe vera water, so I'm glad she's taking some of that. 

Love, Julie


Hi Julie,
I am sorry to hear about your kitties...I do understand as I have several on meds at this time and it can be overwhelming that's for sure...
I wanted to let you know that I had a kitty several yrs ago with an in-operable tumor on the back of her tongue...We put her on 20mg. of pred a day for the inflammation as she could not be force feed or medicated...I would hide the pills in her food and she would eat them..I think she had so much steroid that her appetite was always great..She lived another 3 yrs with this tumor...It was awful looking, too...She would sometimes choke and have a difficult time eating..as we did get some of the inflammation down she would even eat some dry food at times...It seems as if she just learned to cope with it the best way she could...She wasn't FeLV+ though so if your kitty is, I don't know about all the pred..I know the steroids are awful to use, but I guess sometimes we have to use them...
We have you in our thoughts and prayers.. 
Kerry and Bandy


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Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks so much, Cherie. You all are the best!Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julie, 
If I can help in anyway, please let me know...I know it is hard, but what you are doing for all your furrbabies brings a smile to my heart.
CherieDel Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Julie, you really have an overwhelming situation with so many seriously ill at the same time. I am so sorry. Sending you big hugs, Del

- Original Message - 
From: Julie Johnson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Sad News

Hi Everyone,

I have somesad news to share. First, Mandy's biopsies are back and she has oral squamous cell carcinoma. The entire back of her tongue is involved. We are consulting a surgeon, but her prognosis is very poor, indeed. The surgery would be horrendous (possibly removing part of her jaw, too), followed by radiation therapy. Even with this extreme treatment, the recurrance rate for this kind of cancer is very high; I understand sometimes within just a couple of months. Mandy is a sweet little girl (Tater Tot's sister) who loves to come visit on her terms, but does not like being handled. Medicating her and syringe-feeding are nearly impossible.I'm not sure at this point what we will do or not do.

Paulie, (the father of Mandy and Tater) is 7 years old and is in renal failure.
He is feral and although I can capture him when I have to, I would need to keep him in his own room to get treatment. When he had the corneal ulcer, it was a much different story and we had a treatment plan and a projected outcome. For CRF, I can't see imposing that on him just to keep him a bit longer. He is eating again and seems a bit more like himself (won't let me pet him!) so we'll just see how he does.

Cosmo has a dislocated ankle and according to the consulting radiologist, it cannot be splinted. He would need surgery to have the bones fused and he would then have a stiff leg that he couldn't bend at the wrist. I have to investigate this more, because we all agree that he is starting to put more weight on the leg and the bones may actually be fusing in this position which is not much different than it would be after surgery. Again, not sure how we will proceed for him. Hedoes not seem to be in any pain; you can move his leg every which-way and he does not make a peep or try to pull his paw away. He just obviously favors the leg.

I'm just overwhelmed by all this. It's breaking my heart. Having so many cats, I knew that a day would likely come when I had several who were ill all at the same time, and that has certainly happened before. I've not faced or dealt with so many probably being terminal, though. I suppose one can never fully prepare for that emotionally.

Thanks for listening, everyone, and please keep my "kids" in your thoughts.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


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Have a purrfect day
Cherie
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Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Michelle. I know you've been there and so have lots of other folks. It helps to know that folks understand and empathize with the situation. I have to get over the "why" of all that's been happening; it's draining and pointless, but as you say, the whole cluster thing is weird and I admit it does prey on my mind (or what's left of it).

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Holy cow, Julie, you are dealing with a lot. I recently went through something like this with multiple animal illnesses and losses, and I know that it is barely survivable. Hang in there. I have no idea why these things happen in groups and at first I thought it was just me and my family, but I have been hearing it a lot lately. It is really weird. All I can say is take a hot bath every once in while, get a massage if you can afford it (unlikely given all the vet bills, but if you can spare $35 for a half hour massage it can really help with the stress), and try to get some sleep while you can. That's about all I can say. And pray, even if you are not religious. I can't explain it but it helps.
Love,
Michelle"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Nina,

You're so right; one can think and project and ponder, but until you're IN the situation, it's hard to imagine how you'll react. My instinct is to try anything, do anything, but my heart tells me that's wrong for Mandy and Paulie. They need to be loved for as long as they can comfortably stay with us. 

Thank you so much for sharing Zevon's story. What I've been told is that the repair is more difficult in a cat because the bones are much smaller and the physiology of the wrist is slighly different. So far, the only surgical option that's been put forward is fusing and inserting a plate; he'll be left with a stiff leg. Frankly, it doesn't sound much different from what he has now and he does not seem to be in any pain at all; you can do whatever you want to that leg and he doesn't react in any way. He grooms himself with it. It's so strange. Poor Zevon; what an ordeal he had! He was one lucky fellow to have you for a Mommy!

Thank you so much for your good thoughts and kind words;I wrap them around me like a cloak.

Love, JulieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh Julie you are, and have been going through such a rough time at your house. I know what you mean about having that dread in the back of your mind, because of having so many, that one day the situation you find yourself in is a possibility. Too bad having that knowledge doesn't prepare us better for the day when/if it comes. I know one of the things that helps me, and that has helped me, is being determined to not let my loved ones suffer. I have made a commitment to myself and to them to fight for them, to take extraordinary measures, but only when there is the hope that they will recover from treatment and live a healthy, full life. Very unfortunately, it doesn't sound like that would be the case for either Mandy, or her daddy. I'm so sorry. You are there, I am not. Maybe a second, or third opinion is in order?About Cosmo and his
 dislocated wrist. I think there is great hope for him. My GSD, Zevon, jumped off an extremely high, extremely steep cliff in Santa Barbara trying to get to the ocean below. He came down front legs stiff and severely sprained both front wrists, (dislocated). He didn't break any bones, but I was told by two different vets that he should be pts. That he would never recover from his injury and that he would always be in danger of re-injuring himself, if he did. The third vet we took him to told us that he could operate on him, fuse the bones together and place metal "splints" inside to keep his legs stable. This of course would mean that he would not be able to bend his front legs at the wrist. We took him to an orthopedic surgeon, who was willing to take the chance of not fusing, or placing splints. He operated on the most damaged wrist, wrapping it with some of Zevon's own stretched tendon, put both front legs in casts and sent him
 home for months of down-stays. I can't remember exactly, but I think we replaced his casts once, went to bandaged splints and then finally to another couple of months of wrapping his legs to give him extra support. He couldn't walk without our supporting him with a sling. The months that followed his operation were terrible, not only because a very active dog, (he was 4 years old at the time), was being forced to lie still, but also because we had no way of knowing whether or not it would work. After all we had been through, it was possible that when the splints were removed, his legs wouldn't hold, and we'd be right back where we started. Well, his legs did heal. He's now going on 9 yrs old. We can't let him leap in the air after a ball anymore, but he runs and plays and does just wonderfully.My thoughts and prayers are with you,NinaJulie Johnson wrote: Hi Everyone,  I have some sad news
 to share. First, Mandy's biopsies are back and  she has oral squamous cell carcinoma. The entire back of her tongue  is involved. We are consulting a surgeon, but her prognosis is very  poor, indeed. The surgery would be horrendous (possibly removing part  of her jaw, too), followed by radiation therapy. Even with this  extreme treatment, the recurrance rate for this kind of cancer is very  high; I understand sometimes within just a couple of months. Mandy is  a sweet little girl (Tater Tot's sister) who loves to come visit on  her terms, but does not like being handled. Medicating her and  syringe-feeding are nearly impossible. I'm not sure at this point  what we will do or not do.  Paulie, (the father of Mandy and Tater) is 7 years old and is in renal  failure. He is feral and although I can capture him when I have to, I would  need to keep him in his own room to
 get treatment. When he had the  corneal ulcer, it was a much different story and we had a treatment  plan and a projected outcome. For CRF, I can't see imposing that on  him just to keep him a bit longer. He is eating again and seems a bit  more like himself (won't let me pet him!) so we'll just see how he does.  Cosmo has a dislocated 

Re: Sad News

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks, Tonya; I'll keep you and your crew in my thoughts and prayers, too.

Juliecatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julie,

I'm sorry for all you are going through right now. It really gets tough as your cats start to age. I'm dealing with some of that now with my crew. You just have to do the best you can knowing each cat as well as you do. You are all in my thoughts and prayers.
tonyaJulie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have somesad news to share. First, Mandy's biopsies are back and she has oral squamous cell carcinoma. The entire back of her tongue is involved. We are consulting a surgeon, but her prognosis is very poor, indeed. The surgery would be horrendous (possibly removing part of her jaw, too), followed by radiation therapy. Even with this extreme treatment, the recurrance rate for this kind of cancer is very high; I understand sometimes within just a couple of months. Mandy is a sweet little girl (Tater Tot's sister) who loves to come visit on her terms, but does not like being handled. Medicating her and syringe-feeding are nearly impossible.I'm not sure at this point what we will do or not do.

Paulie, (the father of Mandy and Tater) is 7 years old and is in renal failure.
He is feral and although I can capture him when I have to, I would need to keep him in his own room to get treatment. When he had the corneal ulcer, it was a much different story and we had a treatment plan and a projected outcome. For CRF, I can't see imposing that on him just to keep him a bit longer. He is eating again and seems a bit more like himself (won't let me pet him!) so we'll just see how he does.

Cosmo has a dislocated ankle and according to the consulting radiologist, it cannot be splinted. He would need surgery to have the bones fused and he would then have a stiff leg that he couldn't bend at the wrist. I have to investigate this more, because we all agree that he is starting to put more weight on the leg and the bones may actually be fusing in this position which is not much different than it would be after surgery. Again, not sure how we will proceed for him. Hedoes not seem to be in any pain; you can move his leg every which-way and he does not make a peep or try to pull his paw away. He just obviously favors the leg.

I'm just overwhelmed by all this. It's breaking my heart. Having so many cats, I knew that a day would likely come when I had several who were ill all at the same time, and that has certainly happened before. I've not faced or dealt with so many probably being terminal, though. I suppose one can never fully prepare for that emotionally.

Thanks for listening, everyone, and please keep my "kids" in your thoughts.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


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Re: sores in the mouth

2005-09-07 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Terri,

Are you already giving them L-Lysine? If not, it should be just the ticket.
The sores are most probably Herpes and Lysine interferes with the virus' ability to replicate. I know quite a few people who take it for Herpes outbreaks and when I joined this list I had Chappy who had terrible mouth sores. One of the first things that was suggested was Lysine and his mouth sores improved dramatically after being on it for only a few days.

You can give 250-500 mg up to twice a day. Some folks get the tablets (look for them wherever you buy vitamins) and crush them. I buy the capsules and just pull them apart; it's already ground up into a fine powder and I use so much of it that it really saves me time. If you search online, you can buy it just as a powder in a big jar, but it's quite expensive sold that way. It will likely help with the sniffies, too, since it has good general anti-viral properties.

Hope this helps; give them all a big smooch!

Julie

p.s. I'm taking it now myself; I work at a large University and every year in September when thousands of students return, a cold inevitably circulates around the office. I find it does really help.Terri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My 3 FELV kits (almost 5 months) , I noticed have not been eating aswell as they were and noticed they all have red sores in their mouths.Is there something I can give them for these ? They just recently losttheir brothers (Albany and Macon) and I am trying my best to keep these3 healthy.Terrips one of them is sneezing so bad, I have to take a shower after I comefrom their room so as not to expose my other kits.--Terri Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh Often"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH
 Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Sheila and Bubba

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Sheila,

Bubba sounds like a complete character, hell-bent on spending those famous nine lives! I'm so very sorry for your loss; I know how hard it will be to not see him every day. He's there, though; all around you. In spirit and in your wonderful memories. Sending you a huge, warm hug.

Love, Julie
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Re: CLS for Marie Cat

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Tad,

I am so sorry to hear this news. Marie Cat was so very fortunate to have been rescued by you and to live out her life in comfort and with love.

I know how you'll miss her until you meet again.

Take care of yourself.

Love, Julie Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sadly my Marie Cat passed away quietly last evening..9/4/2005...She was a beautiful Russian Blue...She was my first FeLV+ cat..I brought her home almost 2 years ago to the dayShe was thought to be near 16 years old but she was picked up as a stray and we don't know for sure..I rescued her with a group of 4 cats all starving and eaten by fleas..Marie was very down and they didn't think she would survived the 300 mile trip home but i wanted to give her a chance...I didn't know they were FeLV+ until I took them to my vet and that is when I decided to start my FeLV+ room..I lost one of the kittens is a short time but her brother is still here...Marie has always acted like an old cat but got around and had her favorite spots in sunny windows and on the soft rug on the breeze way...She enjoyed both those spots yesterday...About a week ago she
 started drinking a lot of water and then throwing up...I put her on an A/D diet and she seemed fine for a couple days then started not eating...She excepted some from a suringe but not enough...Last evening she only wanted about 10 cc and then wanted to get in the window over my bed...I had to help her climb up there...She stayed there for a couple hours then came down beside me where she always slept and before long she had passed onI might have been able to do more to extend her life but she was old and she was comfortable and happy right up to the end...She was a very special cat, like all the others too, and she will remain in my heart foreverTad"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi
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Re: CLS

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Oh, Terri, your heart must indeed be heavy. I am so sorry to hear about Macon. FIP is just absolutely hideous. 

I like to think of him running and playing with his brother and his friends at the Bridge; I hope you can take comfort in thinking of him there and know that he was so lucky to spend his too-short life with you.

Take care of yourself; sending lots of hugs.

Love, JulieTerri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For another sibling of Albany - "Macon" he was just a little over 4months FELV pos, he was pts on Thursday Sept 1st from FIP - he couldhardly walk and his eyes told me it was time - He is out of any pain nowand with his brother and other friends.4 left of the litter - there was only one that was negative for FELVheavy heart in Oakdale, CATerrips trying to look at my glass half full - sometimes this is hard whenall this is happeningTerri Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh Often"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come
 WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Sad News

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

I have somesad news to share. First, Mandy's biopsies are back and she has oral squamous cell carcinoma. The entire back of her tongue is involved. We are consulting a surgeon, but her prognosis is very poor, indeed. The surgery would be horrendous (possibly removing part of her jaw, too), followed by radiation therapy. Even with this extreme treatment, the recurrance rate for this kind of cancer is very high; I understand sometimes within just a couple of months. Mandy is a sweet little girl (Tater Tot's sister) who loves to come visit on her terms, but does not like being handled. Medicating her and syringe-feeding are nearly impossible.I'm not sure at this point what we will do or not do.

Paulie, (the father of Mandy and Tater) is 7 years old and is in renal failure.
He is feral and although I can capture him when I have to, I would need to keep him in his own room to get treatment. When he had the corneal ulcer, it was a much different story and we had a treatment plan and a projected outcome. For CRF, I can't see imposing that on him just to keep him a bit longer. He is eating again and seems a bit more like himself (won't let me pet him!) so we'll just see how he does.

Cosmo has a dislocated ankle and according to the consulting radiologist, it cannot be splinted. He would need surgery to have the bones fused and he would then have a stiff leg that he couldn't bend at the wrist. I have to investigate this more, because we all agree that he is starting to put more weight on the leg and the bones may actually be fusing in this position which is not much different than it would be after surgery. Again, not sure how we will proceed for him. Hedoes not seem to be in any pain; you can move his leg every which-way and he does not make a peep or try to pull his paw away. He just obviously favors the leg.

I'm just overwhelmed by all this. It's breaking my heart. Having so many cats, I knew that a day would likely come when I had several who were ill all at the same time, and that has certainly happened before. I've not faced or dealt with so many probably being terminal, though. I suppose one can never fully prepare for that emotionally.

Thanks for listening, everyone, and please keep my "kids" in your thoughts.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Recent Losses

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Cherie and Sheila, the same is happening to me. It'd odd, because some days I seem to get all the mail and others I quite obviously pick up in the middle of a thread.

Julie

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Re: GLOW for all...

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
MaryChristine,

You save every animal you can! That's the priority! It's absolutely wonderful that you are able to do this! Sending you all best wishes.

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Re: Sad News

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Jenn for all your kind words and for those great links; I will be sure to get the information to my vet. It helps to have loving people who are of the same mind confirm what you know somewhere deep inside to be the best course of action. Given the prognosis for Mandy, I don't think I can put her through the surgery. I lost my Lucky to mammary cancer earlier this year and she had a pretty good prognosis; after the surgery they felt she had about 6-12 months of good life. The cancer hadn't spread to her lungs or any vital organs; in less than 2 months, she was filled with cancer.

I can't terrorize Paulie just to keep him with me a bit longer.

Thanks again for your support.

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Oh Julie, I'm so sorry to hear all of the bad news. I don't know if you are soliciting advice, but if so:

Mandy: I don't think I would put her through that surgery. I think I would watch her closely, and when she begins to have trouble eating, or shows obvious signs of pain, I would euthanise her. It just sounds like it's not something that you can fix, and even trying to sounds like it would cause her more suffering than prolonging any good times.

Paulie: I would just let he be himself. It is likely, with him being feral, that some day he might just not show up for his feeding, and will go off under some house or bush to die, but I think trying to prolong his life would cause him much stress, and only buy him a few months, if he is in failure.

Cosmo: Hard to say what to do, but if he is not in any pain, I see no reason to put him through surgery. I know your radiologist said it couldn't be splinted, but handicapped pets is JUST about to release a NEW improved splint for pets, and maybe the new design could work in this case where the old way wont help. From their September newsletter: 
"Orthopedic knee, hock, and wrist braces: I know that several people are waiting for our braces. Were 'almost there.' We're completing our final research on the product and will be putting up the site, we expect, within a few weeks. We just need to make sure they're right."
And here is the link to their original design, possible your vet was unaware it existed?
http://www.handicappedpets.com/splints/
Keep an eye on this page, it should appear here when they release the new design braces:
http://www.handicappedpets.com/products.htm

Good luck Julie, I know it's alot to handle at one time, you're doing so good to be as calm and thinking so clearly as you are!
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Re: Sad News

2005-09-06 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks so much, Del; love those hugsDel Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Julie, you really have an overwhelming situation with so many seriously ill at the same time. I am so sorry. Sending you big hugs, Del

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From: Julie Johnson 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Sad News

Hi Everyone,

I have somesad news to share. First, Mandy's biopsies are back and she has oral squamous cell carcinoma. The entire back of her tongue is involved. We are consulting a surgeon, but her prognosis is very poor, indeed. The surgery would be horrendous (possibly removing part of her jaw, too), followed by radiation therapy. Even with this extreme treatment, the recurrance rate for this kind of cancer is very high; I understand sometimes within just a couple of months. Mandy is a sweet little girl (Tater Tot's sister) who loves to come visit on her terms, but does not like being handled. Medicating her and syringe-feeding are nearly impossible.I'm not sure at this point what we will do or not do.

Paulie, (the father of Mandy and Tater) is 7 years old and is in renal failure.
He is feral and although I can capture him when I have to, I would need to keep him in his own room to get treatment. When he had the corneal ulcer, it was a much different story and we had a treatment plan and a projected outcome. For CRF, I can't see imposing that on him just to keep him a bit longer. He is eating again and seems a bit more like himself (won't let me pet him!) so we'll just see how he does.

Cosmo has a dislocated ankle and according to the consulting radiologist, it cannot be splinted. He would need surgery to have the bones fused and he would then have a stiff leg that he couldn't bend at the wrist. I have to investigate this more, because we all agree that he is starting to put more weight on the leg and the bones may actually be fusing in this position which is not much different than it would be after surgery. Again, not sure how we will proceed for him. Hedoes not seem to be in any pain; you can move his leg every which-way and he does not make a peep or try to pull his paw away. He just obviously favors the leg.

I'm just overwhelmed by all this. It's breaking my heart. Having so many cats, I knew that a day would likely come when I had several who were ill all at the same time, and that has certainly happened before. I've not faced or dealt with so many probably being terminal, though. I suppose one can never fully prepare for that emotionally.

Thanks for listening, everyone, and please keep my "kids" in your thoughts.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


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Re: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Joan,

Please tell Norrice that she and Twiggy are in my thoughts and prayers. Having just been through the seizures due to probable FIP horror, I can imagine what a difficult time this is. I hope that she can take comfort in the fact that although Twiggy was with her for such a short time, she gave her a lifetime of love and caring.

Love, Julie
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Belinda,

Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice wastold there was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the vet, numerous times and previouslythey could not find anything specifically wrong.This past week though, the blood work showed that Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a high white blood count, elevated liver enzymelevels, and ahigh globulin count.She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came from a house
 with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much caring..
Thank you,

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Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Susan,

Sending huge amounts of love and good wishes to Big Rik! I adore the grumpy old men! My Tommy is an old-timer, too, (not even sure how old), but he's also a bit weak in the hindquarters. My vet Wendy said it's from losing a bit of muscle mass due to the combination of age and arthritis. I have some kitty glucosamine/condroitin but he doesn't like the taste mixed in his food and he really objects to being pilled. This company does have a treat formula that I bought for Sunny last year (she's about 105 years old!) and she wasn't crazy about it, but Tommy likes treats so I think I'll try it again for him.

http://www.zukes.com/cats/

Give Big Rik a big hug and Tommy and Sunny understand completely 'what a drag it is getting old...'

Love, Julie Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list. He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly healthy. He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and unsteady. He's a really fine old fella, felv negative. thanks"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Vacs

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Terri,

My personal view is that an animal with a chronic disease (be it diabetes or feline leukemia or whatever) does not need the challenge to their immune system that vaccinations present.

The leukemia vaccine would be of no benefit since they are already presumably positive.

It's more expensive, but if you choose to vaccinate, the vet can order single vaccines so that they aren't getting hit with 4 all at once.

Hope this helps.

Julie


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Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list - Big Rik has died

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Susan,

How very sorry I am for your loss; what a deep and special bond you andBig Rik must have developed over 19.5 years. What an extraordinary life! Still, it's never enough time when it's time for them to leave us, is it? I know what you mean about that bite; I have scratches down my inner arm from Tater Tot during his seizures on the way to the ER and I think they will scar and I hope they do. I will think of him everyday and when I look at those scars I will not think of the end of his life, but what a joyful boy he was when he was here. You must have so many wonderful memories of Big Rik toprocess. I can easily imagine all our old 'grumpies' on the special super-duper-soft cloud.

A big hug from me and extra-strength headbutts from Tommy and Sunny; we'll light a candle for Big Rik tonight.

Take care.

Love, Julie

Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you, Julie. Aren't our old guys wonderful. I am so sad to have to say that Big Rik died in my arms around 2am this morning. I had followed up on the suggestion of potassium - talked to my vet and added it to his SQ fluids. Late yesterday afternoon he seemed to rally a bit but it didn't last long. He has had this voracious appetite - scarfed down almost a whole can of cat food when he seemed to feel a little better yesterday.. I think that in itself is a sign of something wrong - he was like that for about a week.(I know that hunger/eating is one of the last functions tobe lost - that a cat will eat up almost to the point of death so I knew it wasn't really a positive thing. He may have had some thyroid problems to develop or diabetes. Had I not known his kidneys were so bad and if he hadn't been in such poor condition I'd have had blood work done.) In fact I didn't get my hand out of the way fast
 enough one day and he chowed down hard on my thumb. I look at the thumb now and wish I had another opportunity for him to bite me.

Give your Tommy and Sunny hugs from me. I hope they are around for many, many years but when their time comes I know Big Rik will be there waitiing for them - they can have the "old folks club".Basedon the amount of SQ fluids he absorbed very quickly over the last couple of days I think his kidneys just quit. I will definitely look into the glucosamine/condroitin treats - I have other older kitties - but at 13-15 they are just kids compared to Big Rik. Thanks for that information.Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Susan,

Sending huge amounts of love and good wishes to Big Rik! I adore the grumpy old men! My Tommy is an old-timer, too, (not even sure how old), but he's also a bit weak in the hindquarters. My vet Wendy said it's from losing a bit of muscle mass due to the combination of age and arthritis. I have some kitty glucosamine/condroitin but he doesn't like the taste mixed in his food and he really objects to being pilled. This company does have a treat formula that I bought for Sunny last year (she's about 105 years old!) and she wasn't crazy about it, but Tommy likes treats so I think I'll try it again for him.

http://www.zukes.com/cats/

Give Big Rik a big hug and Tommy and Sunny understand completely 'what a drag it is getting old...'

Love, Julie Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list. He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly healthy. He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and unsteady. He's a really fine old fella, felv negative. thanks"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 
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Re: Bandy's test results

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Kerry,

I'm sorry to hear that Bandy had some bad news. Is there any possibility that he couldhave hemobartonella? Did they test for it (notoriously hard to test for)? Doxycycline is the antibiotic of choice; would your vet be willing to prescribe it just in case? It causes anemia and since it's an infection, I would presume it could cause fever, too.

I think the liver shake would be great for Bandy, some other suggestions are: Pet-Tinic (a liquid multivitamin which also has iron), perhaps cod liver oil? It's an antioxidant and if you look at Dr. Addie's website re: FIP, it's a short term supplement she suggests. Perhaps cold water fish, like canned mackeral (my guys love it) or salmon.

Sending you both hugs and all best wishes!

Love, Julie

Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
We had some bad news today...The IFA was positive for FeLV and FIV...His bone marrow is failing...It is not producing enough RBC. The WBC are ok..it was a little high, but not much.
We have stopped the epogen(procrit) injections for now...Since he does have enough erythropoietin he doesn't need that now unless the PCV goes to around 20...It was 26 today..
Also, he is still spiking a temp more on than off...but we have also had to stop the dex injections as it could be harmful to his pancreas so she put him on 5mg of pred daily which I know isn't a good thing, but it is the only thing we can use to bring down the fever...
Any more suggestions on the temp thing would be great...I don't know what else to do...
The specialist also said the fever is from inflammation caused from the viruses...so I have to try to figure out a way to stop it using something natural if at all possible...
He hurt his leg a few days ago as he was playing and I think he over did it so now he won't walk on it much...
We are still on the same antibiotics until the PCR test comes back next week...
If any of you know anything we could do to help his bone marrow, I would really appreciate the info...I am waiting to get the papers in front of me as I don't understand all of this until I see the actual results in front of me...We did all this on the phone today...
I need some help trying to make a good protocol for him supplement wise..
I have read about the liver shake and am going to try that, but he likes fish best..(salmon)
I just don't know where to start or what to do first...I have searched on the list for any other kitties that might have symptoms like Bandy and I can't find anyone...so I don't know if this is highly unusual or what...
Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers...
Hoping all your kitties are doing good today.
Head butts to all!!
Kerry R. and Bandy
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Hideyo and Kerry, Susan and Gloria

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Hey Girls!

I'm having some weird things go on with email, too, and it seems like I'm only getting some messages. From what I can piece together, Hideyo, you saved a mom and babies, and Kerry, Susan and Gloria are all willing to give a home to a kitty?

You're the absolute best; everyone of you is a HERO!

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Ewok

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Jen,

Prayers, good wishes, crossed fingers; all of it! On the way! Poor little fellow. I know that allergies (even to airborne things) can sometimes express themselves as skin problems in cats. They can also get asthma. Maybe he IS allergic to something and it's hitting as a double whammy. 

Give him a big smooch from me!

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, forgot to mention that he has a vet appointment in about anhour...wish us luck!! :)Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals
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Mandy's biopsy is today

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

Please send a good wish her way; she's having the mass in her mouth biopsied this morning. 

Tomorrow Wink is going into have a drain removed from a lymph node (she was being treated for an ear infection that abcessed into the lymph node and had surgery on Wednesday) and Paulie is having bloodwork done. He hasn't been eating well for several days, is drinking and peeing a lot. He's the father of Tater Tot and Mandy, and I have to admit, I am so freaked out that so many from that group are all suddenly ill. He's only 7 years old. He's feral and he let me pick him up the other day (he NEVER misses a meal and I was so stunned when he wouldn't eat that I just reached for him and he didn't run) and is letting me pet him in the isolation room without much fuss.

Love, Julie
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Re: Mandy's biopsy is today

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks so much, Joan! I've seen this kind of wave, too, and it just sucks! The ferals are very hard when they get ill; any treament that involves handling is so stressful for them. Paulie was in isolation for almost two months a couple of years ago when he had to have a contact lens put in to help heal a corneal ulcer. He got to the point where he'd hiss, but it was all talk and I could scruff him and sit him in my lap (without toweling) for treatment. I'd sing and whisper to him and he would eventually purr. I was really hopeful that when he was recovered, we'd be friends, but he dropped me like a bad habit once he got back with his kitty buddies!

JulieJoan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have noticed with my crew that things happen in waves as well. Here's hoping that all results are good with everyone.I have some ferals as well and it is so hard when they get ill. Sometimes, I even have to trap them to bring them to the vet.

Good wishes from me and my crew,

JoanJulie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Please send a good wish her way; she's having the mass in her mouth biopsied this morning. 

Tomorrow Wink is going into have a drain removed from a lymph node (she was being treated for an ear infection that abcessed into the lymph node and had surgery on Wednesday) and Paulie is having bloodwork done. He hasn't been eating well for several days, is drinking and peeing a lot. He's the father of Tater Tot and Mandy, and I have to admit, I am so freaked out that so many from that group are all suddenly ill. He's only 7 years old. He's feral and he let me pick him up the other day (he NEVER misses a meal and I was so stunned when he wouldn't eat that I just reached for him and he didn't run) and is letting me pet him in the isolation room without much fuss.

Love, Julie
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RE: Mandy's biopsy is today

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Will do, Kerry!I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Dear Julie
Sending zillions of good wishes your way for Mandy, Wink and Paulie. Please let us know how it goes for Mandy this am when you get a minute.
love  hugs Kerry

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:19 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Mandy's biopsy is today
Hi Everyone,

Please send a good wish her way; she's having the mass in her mouth biopsied this morning. 

Tomorrow Wink is going into have a drain removed from a lymph node (she was being treated for an ear infection that abcessed into the lymph node and had surgery on Wednesday) and Paulie is having bloodwork done. He hasn't been eating well for several days, is drinking and peeing a lot. He's the father of Tater Tot and Mandy, and I have to admit, I am so freaked out that so many from that group are all suddenly ill. He's only 7 years old. He's feral and he let me pick him up the other day (he NEVER misses a meal and I was so stunned when he wouldn't eat that I just reached for him and he didn't run) and is letting me pet him in the isolation room without much fuss.

Love, Julie
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Re: Mandy's biopsy is today

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks so much, Jenn! I'm sooo nervous; my kids, 'ya know![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Wishing Mandy lot's of luck with her biopsy! Poor girl, hopefully messing with the nasty thing wont cause her to be in more pain, I'd hate to see her quit eating when she's been doing so well, considering. When Somi came home from her spay surgery, she had on a patch for pain, maybe you could look into getting one on Mandy, if she begins to hurt. On my printout, it says: "Duragestic patch 25mcg/Hr" and it was $40.50. She was not in ANY pain, it worked great. It lasted for 5 days.


Also, well wishes toWink that he is all better, and it doesn'tre-infect and require re-draining.

And positive energy sent to Paulie in the hopes that possibly he is just depressed because his son died, and will perk back up in a few days!
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Mandy

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

Wendy just called and they are sending the biopsies (5) out to a lab. She was going to try and remove the mass, but there is so much tongue involvement that she feels a veterinary oral surgeon should do it. She hoped to have some idea of what was going on, but feels that it's just impossible to tell without the biopsy results.

Mandy is coming home tonight; no worse (probably a little sore, but I'm having pain medication prescribed), but also no better. She truly does not seem to be in any pain and is eating well and bopping around like her ususal good-natured self.She'll have a smorgasbord to choose from tonight! 

It will be good to have our little girl home and we'll just have to see what the tests show next week.

Thank you everyone for all your good thoughts and wishes.

Hugs and headbutts to all.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Mandy

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi, Gloria, thanks for that info. I first noticed that something was up with Mandy because she was eating and she had some bloody drool coming out of one side of her mouth. She has some really thick drool throughout the day, but it hasn't been bloody since the first time I saw it.And most of the time, she looks completely normal with nothing to indicate that anything is going on with her mouth. Hoping for the best.

Julie




Julie - hope everything turns out well for Mandy. You didn't say if she's bleeding so must not be, thankfully. But when my old sweetheart Nicky's mouth was bleeding, I gave him homeopathic Arnica and it really worked well.GloriaAt 10:23 AM 8/26/2005, you wrote:Hi Everyone,Wendy just called and they are sending the biopsies (5) out to a lab. She was going to try and remove the mass, but there is so much tongue involvement that she feels a veterinary oral surgeon should do it. She hoped to have some idea of what was going on, but feels that it's just impossible to tell without the biopsy results.Mandy is coming home tonight; no worse (probably a little sore, but I'm having pain medication prescribed), but also no better. She truly does not seem to be in any pain and is eating
 well and bopping around like her ususal good-natured self. She'll have a smorgasbord to choose from tonight!It will be good to have our little girl home and we'll just have to see what the tests show next week.Thank you everyone for all your good thoughts and wishes.Hugs and headbutts to all.Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. ""The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judgedby the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.Start your day with Yahoo! - make it
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Re: Ewok has a tumor... :(

2005-08-26 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Jen,

DOUBLE damn, damn, damn! It's fantastic that they were able to get you into the oncologist and start treatment TODAY!

Let's look at the good news, which is that his underlying health is good, so you kick a**, Ewok!!

Jen, you take care of the wine; I'll get the chocolateand, somebody, please, pass the Valium

You give that brave boy a big smooch from me and Mandy; we're sick of stupid, stupid tumors.

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn, damn, damn...but I can't tell you guys enough how so very proud of this little man I am...my vet was able to get us into the oncologist's office straight away and it was confirmed that he has lymphosarcoma in his chest cavity. He went through his first round of chemo this morning (everything has happened so fast...I'll probably be hitting the wine supply shortly...forget going back to work! ;) )...anyhoo, all we can do now is wait and see how the tumor responds. My vet was actually quite impressed with his overall health (bloodwork, etc.) that she even retested him for leukemia to see if he hadn't thrown the virus off...but, unfortunately, he's still coming up positive. No mattter, though, he seems to be pretty upbeat irregardless...incessently grooming all his shaved spots...if all goes well, the oncologist says perhaps six to
 eight months (although he treated a feleuk guy who's going on 2 years remission), and I'll take it seeing as though, for these Feleuk guys, 6 months is a lifetime...Thank you all so much for your good wishes, they truly mean the world to me, especially in the days ahead!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man.
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Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-25 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you very much, Kerry.Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Julie,
I was so sorry to hear of his passing, but as we know he is still with you in spirit...And when you least expect it, there will be a tug on those apron strings...you will know he will always be with you. I know it is a very difficult time, but we do know they will all be waiting for us at the bridge...
You are in our thoughts and prayers.
Take care,
Kerry R. and Bandy
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Re: Bandy's trip to the specialist

2005-08-25 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Kerry,

What a comprehensive checkup! I hope the reason for Bandy's temp rise can be found and I have you both in my prayers. I'm especially sending "negative" thoughts his way.

Love, Julie
Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just an update on what we have been doing for Bandy.
His temp still jumps up every 3 or 4 days...all the way to 106...so we went to a specialist to have everything checked.. This is what they did and what they have found so far..
CBC in house was done and one was sent out to another lab
Biochemistry: Feline comprehensive pending
Urinalysis: showed trace glucose in urine Specific gravity 1.020
FeLv and FIV ELISA were both positive
Bone marrow IFA for FeLV pending
Bone marrow IFA for FIV pending
Bone marrow aspirate cytology pending
Chest x-ray normal
Abdominal Ultrasound: no masses or nodules seen, Spleen, gall bladder, liver, urinary bladder, bowel,stomach, and  pancreas are all normal.. Kidneys are thickened and surface texture is irregular. They are symmetrical in size...Both have thickened and hyperechoic cortexes with fusion and blunting of the renal papillae..
There was no evidence of free fluid in the abdomen..
I think the concern here is of the kidneys being irregular, but they are working properly now..
Hemobartonella PCR pending ( to see if this is a contributing factor to his fever)
She saved some serum samples for ongoing testing if necessary...
I think we just about covered it all in one visit...since it was a very long trip for him to make..Actually, I think he did better than I did...He was a real trooper and did great...He even ate alittle bit on the way home and first thing he did when we got home instead of the litter box, it was the food and water bowl...
Anyway, I will post the results as I get them...
I think it is still a mystery to my vet here at home as well as the specialist...She was searching for cancer cells and enlarged lymph nodes and there were none...That is a positve thing, so all we can hope for is that the IFA tests are negative...I am going to keep hoping and praying that they are
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your kitties!!
Kerry R. and Bandy


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Re: Please add Butternut to the CLS

2005-08-25 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Susan,

I am so sorry for your loss; my heart breaks for you. How wonderful that Butternut was lucky enough to join your family and spend his too-short life surrounded by love. I hope your memories will comfort you and I know how terribly hard it is, but I also hope you can celebrate his life and not simply mourn his passing. I'm sure he's found Tater Tot and they're having a grand time and speculating about why we're so fond of food-related names.

Take care of yourself.

Love, Julie
Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I lost Butternut to this evil disease. He was 3 1/2 years old - so I know he has lived longer than most babies born positive - but is wasn't long enough. It never is, is it. I am in Arkansas and over 3 years ago there was a situation in the northern part of the state - out in the sticks somewhere - where lots of cats were left at a trailer park of some sort. It was in the news that a vet had been hired to euthanize them all.2 members of our rescue group headed up there to see what could be done -- all they managed to save was one little orange tabby boy, Butternut, who tested positive for feleuk. Since I already had feleuk babies, including Gloria's Mittens and my Leader and their littermates, who were the same age as Butternut, I took him. He has been wonderfully healthy and happy and very much loved for the whole of his short life. 

Over the last couple of days he went downhill fast and yesterday lost the use of his hind legs. We chose to free him before he began to really suffer. I know he is playing at the Rainbow Bridge with Mittens and the rest of our feleuk babies. Thanks."I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: CLS

2005-08-25 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Patti,

My heart goes out to you, not only for the loss of dear little Ellen, but for the horror of all you are dealing with.

Please take care of yourself and know that we're here for you.

I hope Ellen is with Tater Tot and Butternut; all lounging on a jumbo, fluffy cloud.

Sending you a huge hug.

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Belinda,

Regretfully, will you add dear, sweet, little Ellen to the CLS as deceased. 8/24/05.

She just "gave up" late yesterday, and all I could do was hold her in my arms thru the night, whispering reassurances to her that although all 1.3 lbs. of her put up such a brave, determined effort to "fight", it was okay for her to go to sleep and join the other fur-angels. She had earned her "wings". She passed, quietly in my arms during the early morning hours.

I am completelydevastated with losing her.
Such a sweet, tiny little baby, but she's struggled so hard to stay alive.
She tried so hard, she had a determined spirit for such a frail baby.
But she was just so small, so innocent.
She just didn't have the strength to fight anymore, and it was heartbreaking to look in her eyes  realize she'd just given up.
For the short time she was with me, she definitely stole a big piece of my
heart...

What a cruel fate, such an awful death, for her  all the others that died senselessly because of the irresponsibility of her "supposed" rescuer.
Yes, they were "spared" the horror of the gas chamber, but for all these innocents to die such a "horrible" death due to the "transport from hell", I wonder which fate would have been the lesser of the two evils...

The heartbreak of all this is also NOT knowing how many other innocents died from exposure to the still "UNKNOWN KILLER" of the transported cats, all due to the failure of the person doing the transport to be upfront  honest with all of us involved. And also how many cats are STILL at risk because the while truth hasn't been told???
Also, her sheer DISREGARD for the lives of these babies by basically just cramming the 20+ cats into a small vehicle, UNVETTED WITH NO PAPERWORK from the shelter, mixing litters, crammed into carriers  the cardboard "temporary" carriers, like sardines, without food, water or even a damn litterbox for the long ride , non-stop, from Georgia to Pa., on one of the hottest, most humid days,then to Ohio, then to N.Y., then finally back to HER home in Pa.(a 2 bedroom townhouse, in which she already is housing 50 (Yes, FIFTY!!!), of her own cats

AND, as if things couldn't be any worse, this was her SECOND large transport from the SAME SHELTER in a two week period!!

How in the hell could this be allowed to happen???
This woman is NOT A RESCUER, BUT A MURDEROUS COLLECTOR!!!

I apologize for my harshness, I am NOT an evil person
But I am over-ridden with grief  guilt. If I had been able to think that afternoon, I should have called The Adams Co. SPCA to the scene, but I justdid not have my "wits" together..Regrets, I am having a VERY difficult time DEALING w/ the reality  gravity of the horror!

The SENSELESS loss of so many lives, the unknown number of other innocents that are now in danger.

Right now, I would like to put this woman in the trunk of a small car on a hot, humid day, drive 600-700 miles, and then "toss" her in a gas chamber...

I do not mean to offend anyone on this list. God knows, I love you all and you all have been such a wonderful, supportive, compassionate group of people, no doubt this list has always been my favorite due to the fact of the "closeness"  support.
So, please forgive me, but I NEEDED TO VENT!!!
I am totally heartbroken and have lost faith in what RESCUE is supposed to be about...
I always believed it meant "saving" the innocents, NOT killing them.
After this, I think it's time I just throw in the towel.
My heart is broken, to the point I am saying hateful things.
It's time to quit.
Patti



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Re: Please add Butternut to the CLS

2005-08-25 Thread Julie Johnson
I'll bet they are, Susan! "Those Mom's of ours were always thinking about FOOD"!

Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks, Julie - I wonder if they are laughing at us for the names we come up with!Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Dear Susan,

I am so sorry for your loss; my heart breaks for you. How wonderful that Butternut was lucky enough to join your family and spend his too-short life surrounded by love. I hope your memories will comfort you and I know how terribly hard it is, but I also hope you can celebrate his life and not simply mourn his passing. I'm sure he's found Tater Tot and they're having a grand time and speculating about why we're so fond of food-related names.

Take care of yourself.

Love, Julie
Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I lost Butternut to this evil disease. He was 3 1/2 years old - so I know he has lived longer than most babies born positive - but is wasn't long enough. It never is, is it. I am in Arkansas and over 3 years ago there was a situation in the northern part of the state - out in the sticks somewhere - where lots of cats were left at a trailer park of some sort. It was in the news that a vet had been hired to euthanize them all.2 members of our rescue group headed up there to see what could be done -- all they managed to save was one little orange tabby boy, Butternut, who tested positive for feleuk. Since I already had feleuk babies, including Gloria's Mittens and my Leader and their littermates, who were the same age as Butternut, I took him. He has been wonderfully healthy and happy and very much loved for the whole of his short life. 

Over the last couple of days he went downhill fast and yesterday lost the use of his hind legs. We chose to free him before he began to really suffer. I know he is playing at the Rainbow Bridge with Mittens and the rest of our feleuk babies. Thanks."I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 
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Re: Please add Butternut to the CLS

2005-08-25 Thread Julie Johnson
I have a 'Creamsicle', too!!! Yummy!Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmmm. I've also got Popcorn and Creamsicle and last fall lost Orange Julius!Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I'll bet they are, Susan! "Those Mom's of ours were always thinking about FOOD"!

Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks, Julie - I wonder if they are laughing at us for the names we come up with!Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Dear Susan,

I am so sorry for your loss; my heart breaks for you. How wonderful that Butternut was lucky enough to join your family and spend his too-short life surrounded by love. I hope your memories will comfort you and I know how terribly hard it is, but I also hope you can celebrate his life and not simply mourn his passing. I'm sure he's found Tater Tot and they're having a grand time and speculating about why we're so fond of food-related names.

Take care of yourself.

Love, Julie
Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I lost Butternut to this evil disease. He was 3 1/2 years old - so I know he has lived longer than most babies born positive - but is wasn't long enough. It never is, is it. I am in Arkansas and over 3 years ago there was a situation in the northern part of the state - out in the sticks somewhere - where lots of cats were left at a trailer park of some sort. It was in the news that a vet had been hired to euthanize them all.2 members of our rescue group headed up there to see what could be done -- all they managed to save was one little orange tabby boy, Butternut, who tested positive for feleuk. Since I already had feleuk babies, including Gloria's Mittens and my Leader and their littermates, who were the same age as Butternut, I took him. He has been wonderfully healthy and happy and very much loved for the whole of his short life. 

Over the last couple of days he went downhill fast and yesterday lost the use of his hind legs. We chose to free him before he began to really suffer. I know he is playing at the Rainbow Bridge with Mittens and the rest of our feleuk babies. Thanks."I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 
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Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks, Jenn; hugs to you. I know what a hard time you've been having, too. Damned FIP.

Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Julie, I'm so sorry to hear about Tater Tot passing over. My sympathy goes out to you and your crew.
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Re: FIV list ?

2005-08-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Oh, Terri, I am so very sorry. I lost my Tater Tot on Sunday night to FIP. It's hideous and devastating; you're in my thoughts and I hope Cosmo and Tater Tot met right away at the Bridge. Tater Tot's probably being a little pest and swatting Cosmo's tail.

Julie

Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





I'm so sorry Terri. Big hugs to you.

Goodnight, sweet Cosmo...

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Subject: Re: FIV list ?
Cosmo, I called him Cosimo, died on Saturday of FIP... He was asingleton dropped off at Petco. He had all his shots, neutered, microchipped and then all of a sudden started losing weight and then the bigbelly - like jello. It broke my heart, I just thank god he was with meand not been adopted out. He is out of any pain now and with hisfriends Picasso, Minnow, Albany and many others.Thank youTerriBelinda Sauro wrote: I'm sorry Terri, sounds like you've been having a really rough time of it. If you'd like him listed send me the details. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP
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Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you so much for your lovely words, Nina. He was a little character and we miss him dearly. This morning, his big brother Spud (he IS a big boy and Tater Tot was so little, what else could he be named?) sat on the bathroom counter staring at me and he looked so sad. He'd been sleeping with Tater the last few days, and I'm sure he knew Tater was preparing to leave. As I tied my apron strings, he reached over and tapped me. It was so sweet.

Love, Julie
Ohhh Julie,I'm so sorry to hear about Tater. He lived his little life with gusto though, didn't he? I can just see him pulling at your apron strings, batting at his sibling's tails. What a little love! It's so very hard to lose them, no matter what the circumstances. I hope you can take some comfort in the fact that it was very clear that it was indeed his time and that he enjoyed his life up to the last. I know how hard it is going to be to tie those apron strings, all those little 'ritual' things that we've taken such joy in can be such a torment at first. It was a very long time before I was able to make myself a cup of tea after Jazz left me, (she used to come running out of nowhere, trilling her head off, begging for the balled up wrapper to bat around). Now when I do have a cup of tea, or when I sit down and think of her jumping on
 my lap before I'm settled, I can feel her presence, I know she's still with me. Sometimes I can even feel her little paw tapping me on my thigh, asking to come up on the computer desk while I type. Pay attention to those apron strings, he's right there batting at them still. Much love to you my dear,NinaJulie Johnson wrote: Dear Friends,  My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having  seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering.  He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out  the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the  first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started  to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing  to call the ER when the seizures started.   I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years 
 of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my  apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he  loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and  grab the tail of whoever was below.  Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the  most special group of people I've ever known.  Love, Julie  "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) Paws Come WITH Claws!!! If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think  your decision to acquire a pet.
  Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page  "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Terri; it's comforting to know that everyone is thinking of him.

Love, JulieTerri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Poor Tater. You did so much for him, and I am sure he knew you were there.

Goodnight, sweet Tater Tot...

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- Original Message - 
From: Julie Johnson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: Tater Tot

Dear Friends,

My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering. He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing to call the ER when the seizures started. 

I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and grab the tail of whoever was below. 

Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the most special group of people I've ever known.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks, Tonya; trying to take care of myself. It's been such a hard year that this has really slammed me.catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julie,

I am so terribly sorry for your loss of Little Tater Tot. :( It's so hard, I know, but you have done everything you could. Take care of yourself.
tonyaSusan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julie, I'm so sorry about your little Tater Tot. Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Dear Friends,

My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering. He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing to call the ER when the seizures started. 

I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and grab the tail of whoever was below. 

Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the most special group of people I've ever known.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: CLS - Please add Twiggy to the Special Needs list

2005-08-24 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Joan,

Please tell your friend that Twiggy is in my thoughts and prayers. Hoping she'll recover her appetite soon.

JulieJoan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Twiggy was rescued by my friend Norrice from a house with a few FIP kittens. Twiggy has always been very frail and now is not eating once again. She is FIV-/FELV-.

Thank you,

Joan"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: My little man has gone to rainbow bridge

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Michelle,

I am so sorry for your loss; my heart breaks for you. How fortunate Bramble was to spend the last 4 months with you. He's watching down on you now as you watched over him in life and the love you shared will live on.

Take care of yourself.

Love, Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



My dear boy Bramble was put to sleep about an hour ago. I mentioned yesterday that he started to get very stressed with syringe feedingdespite trying to be as calm as possible for him. But aside from that - he was drinking excess so I wondered about this kidneys failing, he went a bit wobbly and very depressed, started to waste and started to hide for last two days. I kept bringing him out to cuddle him but he was so sick. After going through FIV before and knowing how much of a fight Bramble has had for the last 2-3 years with FIV related symptoms I knew that this was the rihgt time for him to go - he was telling me that he had had enough. When I was last really concerned about him I spoke to him and explained that I love him and really want to help him but that if he had had enough and wanted to leave his body here that it was ok and he couldstay in spirit - he got very uncomfortable about this andalong with signs I had got from praying etc.. I felt he wanted
 to stay and we kept fighting - this time I spoke to him and he just purred and nuzzled me - he lifted his head up and kissed my mouth - and gave me a little need as if to say I've had enough nowplease help me. His affection and kneading was different this time is was very much a cry for help and comfort.

I planned to take him to the vets tomorrow but he was getting more lathargic by the minute so today I phonedand thankfullyhis usual vet was in. 

Today he cuddled up to me for about 90 minutes before we went to the vet andI was telling him about what would happen - he clung on to me and put his paw i my handand was the most content I've seen him for a while - it was as if he knewit would be our last time together.The vet did her best to try and find something that was treatable whilst I stood sobbing away (she was fighting tears too as she got a bit attached to Bramble) and then said that one of his kidneys had enlarged quite a lotwhich was not the case when he was there about a week ago -she agreed she thought it was time and so I asked for a sedative for him first. He reacted strongly to that and vomited which I haven't seen before but eventually after fighting it for a while calmed down and lay on his fluffy blanket -I kept telling himiy was ok togo to sleep. After he was put to sleep I covered him up with his head and paw sticking out and he looked snug andpeaceful
 - I gave him lots of kisses and told him to come home whenever he wanted to - and to go and find my last cat Tidge at rainbow bridge until I get there. Once injected he passed quickly and peacfully.

I couldn't put him through anymore - he had mentally given up so I had to help him go. Never gets any easier and heart breaking every time - but I am happy that everything was done for him inthe end and happy that he is no longer in pain because I know he was starting to be in pain. It was worth taking him from the sanctuary for the short 4 months or so we had - he was a special little man and a very brave one.

I will stay a group member though as I still have Minstrel and Buddy

Michelle"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Del; I miss him terribly.Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Oh, Julie, how sad your little Tater Tot has left you. I was thinking about him this morning and wondered how he was doing. You will surely miss him and his antics. He is no longer suffering. May your happy memories of him help you through your grief. Many hugs, Del

- Original Message - 

From: Julie Johnson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:31 AM
Subject: Tater Tot

Dear Friends,

My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering. He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing to call the ER when the seizures started. 

I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and grab the tail of whoever was below. 

Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the most special group of people I've ever known.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

RE: Tater Tot

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Joan,

I agree; FIP is the absolute worst. I so wanted it to be something we could fight. He seemed quite happy right up until the time he started to slide on Sunday. Thank you so much for your good thoughts and kind words; he was loved more than words can say and despite having a rather rocky start and end, had a wonderful life.

Julie"Doljan, Joan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Julie,

I am so saddened to hear about Tator Tot, but glad that he is not suffering.Even though6is young, it is really the quality of life which matters to me,more than the chronological age.To me, when you first posted, FIP sprang to mind. I think FIP is really the cruelest and worst of all the feline diseases. It seems to strike randomly and takes many, many forms and mutates to so many things--and is fatal. I just wanted you and Steve to know that I am saddened by his loss, but I suspect his life, although short, was full of fun, love, warmth and care. No one could ask for anything better than that..

Take care,

Joan


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:32 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Tater Tot
Dear Friends,

My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering. He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing to call the ER when the seizures started. 

I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and grab the tail of whoever was below. 

Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the most special group of people I've ever known.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi MaryChristine,

He is indeed still with me; thank you so much for reminding me of that.

JulieTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aww, julie, i'm sorry! i'm sure that he knew you were with him; and i bet he's hoping thatYOU know he's still with you...-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Thanks, Susan; he will be so missed, but we have wonderful memories of our time together.Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julie, I'm so sorry about your little Tater Tot. Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Dear Friends,

My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering. He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing to call the ER when the seizures started. 

I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and grab the tail of whoever was below. 

Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the most special group of people I've ever known.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 


Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

Tater Tot

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,

My sweet little man is gone. Sunday evening he started having seizures; we rushed him to the ER and chose to end his suffering. He'd been hanging in there; Saturday night he got up and checked out the fresh catnip on the scratching pad and Sunday morning he was the first one at the food dish, although he didn't eat much. He started to go downhill rather quickly on Sunday afternoon and I was preparing to call the ER when the seizures started. 

I hope he knew we were with him; I think he did. He was only 6 years of age and he was such a silly little busybody. He had to grab my apron strings every morning when I was getting ready to feed and he loved to eat from the top level of the condo so he could lean down and grab the tail of whoever was below. 

Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for him; you're the most special group of people I've ever known.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

Re: Tater Tot

2005-08-23 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Belinda. He truly was a little character!Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Julie,I'm so sorry you've lost Tater Tot, he sounds like such a little charector!! He is forever with you in your heart and his spirit will be around you always. Take care of yourself and your family ...-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting  web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by
 the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Tater Tot and Mandy

2005-08-18 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Everyone,

Tater's belly is big again. We consulted two internists and both feel that a CAT scan would not be helpful (apparently you need some idea of the area you're trying to zero in on) and we have another split decision on doing an exploratory. Wendy did some more research on VIN and there is a medication used for treatment of vascular disease in people that some vets are using experimentally in FIP cats. Evidently, vaculitis is one hallmark of FIP (when the vessels swell they leak protein hence the high protein count that shows in bloodwork) and Trental is supposed to make the blood thinner and make it flow more easily and thereby deliver more oxygen to the organs. The correct dosage is being compounded for Tater now. He's also on prednisone and human interferon. He's still eating and was vey interested in what Maurice was doing on the other side of the FIV+ kitties door this morning. I'm trying to decide how to proceed with him; the
 evidence nowseems overwhelming that it is FIP we're dealing with.

On Tuesday morning I noticed his cousin Mandy (also no teeth due to severe LPG)had a big bloody drool on the side of her face. She went into the vet on Tuesday night and she has a large mass under her tongue. There is also extreme irritation on the roof of her mouth above the tongue. She goes in for a biopsy next week and I've been told it could be an eosinophilic granuloma, a tumor (canerous or not), or a severe manifestion of LPG, even though her teeth are gone.

I so appreciate everyone's good wishes for Tater; will you keep Mandy in your thoughts, too? I'm really stunned; somewhere in the back of my mind, I knew these kittens would likely all havehealth problems (that's why I never adopted them out) throughout their lives, and most of them do have chronic herpes outbreaks, or skin problems, etc., but they are so young (6 years of age); it's just breaking my heart.

Mandy is happily eating (stoic little thing; it HAS to hurt) so I guess that's my one bit of positive news. 

Thanks for being here.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Tater Tot and Mandy

2005-08-18 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Gloria!

It's lymphocytic plasmacytic gingivitis; it's the full name of the evil stomatitis
(what a lazy girl; just typing abbreviations!).

Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Julie, lots of good wishes for Tater and for his cousin Mandy! What's LPG?GloriaAt 09:14 AM 8/18/2005, you wrote:Hi Everyone,Tater's belly is big again. We consulted two internists and both feel that a CAT scan would not be helpful (apparently you need some idea of the area you're trying to zero in on) and we have another split decision on doing an exploratory. Wendy did some more research on VIN and there is a medication used for treatment of vascular disease in people that some vets are using experimentally in FIP cats. Evidently, vaculitis is one hallmark of FIP (when the vessels swell they leak protein hence the high protein count that shows in bloodwork) and Trental is supposed to make the blood thinner and make it flow more easily and thereby deliver more oxygen to
 the organs. The correct dosage is being compounded for Tater now. He's also on prednisone and human interferon. He's still eating and was vey interested in what Maurice was doing on the other side of the FIV+ kitties door this morning. I'm trying to decide how to proceed with him; the evidence now seems overwhelming that it is FIP we're dealing with.On Tuesday morning I noticed his cousin Mandy (also no teeth due to severe LPG) had a big bloody drool on the side of her face. She went into the vet on Tuesday night and she has a large mass under her tongue. There is also extreme irritation on the roof of her mouth above the tongue. She goes in for a biopsy next week and I've been told it could be an eosinophilic granuloma, a tumor (canerous or not), or a severe manifestion of LPG, even though her teeth are gone.I so appreciate everyone's good wishes for Tater; will you
 keep Mandy in your thoughts, too? I'm really stunned; somewhere in the back of my mind, I knew these kittens would likely all have health problems (that's why I never adopted them out) throughout their lives, and most of them do have chronic herpes outbreaks, or skin problems, etc., but they are so young (6 years of age); it's just breaking my heart.Mandy is happily eating (stoic little thing; it HAS to hurt) so I guess that's my one bit of positive news.Thanks for being here.Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. ""The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judgedby the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about
 de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Tater Tot and Mandy

2005-08-18 Thread Julie Johnson
Hey, Nina! I don't know what's going on with my household, but I'm starting to feel cursed! Might have to invite the Priest next door (for real, can you stand it?) over with the chapter on Exorcism

I'm so glad you mentioned Transfer Factor. I was thinking about it yesterday and I'm so mentally scribbled that it went totally out of my head.
Tator Tot can be picky about things added to his food, but Mandy generally isn't. I think they'll get some in a portion of nice, smelly tuna; thanks so much for bringing it up.

Thanks for the good wishes and thoughts, too; they mean so much.

Love, Julie Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Julie,Oh man, what is it with your household? It's one thing after another. Why is it that the kindest people seem to have way more of their share of grief? I am so sorry to hear that indications are pointing toward FIP for Tator Tot. He seems to be doing so well though. Enjoy every moment and fight like hell to help him! What else can we do? Miracles happen all the time, I can attest to that. Your Tator is one special fellow, he and you deserve miracles!Poor Mandy! I so hate witnessing their pain and discomfort. It's wonderful that she's still eating. You sure do have a lot of troupers at your house. You must be doing something right girl. I wish I had something more concrete to contribute here. My guess is you're doing everything humanly possible to get your angels well. Have you tried Transfer Factor yet? My prayers and
 thoughts, as always, are with you.Bless you and your household,NinaJulie Johnson wrote: Hi Everyone,  Tater's belly is big again. We consulted two internists and both feel  that a CAT scan would not be helpful (apparently you need some idea of  the area you're trying to zero in on) and we have another split  decision on doing an exploratory. Wendy did some more research on VIN  and there is a medication used for treatment of vascular disease in  people that some vets are using experimentally in FIP cats.  Evidently, vaculitis is one hallmark of FIP (when the vessels swell  they leak protein hence the high protein count that shows in  bloodwork) and Trental is supposed to make the blood thinner and make  it flow more easily and thereby deliver more oxygen to the organs.  The correct dosage is being compounded for Tater now. He's also on  prednisone and
 human interferon. He's still eating and was vey  interested in what Maurice was doing on the other side of the FIV+  kitties door this morning. I'm trying to decide how to proceed with  him; the evidence now seems overwhelming that it is FIP we're dealing  with.  On Tuesday morning I noticed his cousin Mandy (also no teeth due to  severe LPG) had a big bloody drool on the side of her face. She went  into the vet on Tuesday night and she has a large mass under her  tongue. There is also extreme irritation on the roof of her mouth  above the tongue. She goes in for a biopsy next week and I've been  told it could be an eosinophilic granuloma, a tumor (canerous or not),  or a severe manifestion of LPG, even though her teeth are gone.  I so appreciate everyone's good wishes for Tater; will you keep Mandy  in your thoughts, too? I'm really stunned; somewhere in the
 back of  my mind, I knew these kittens would likely all have health problems  (that's why I never adopted them out) throughout their lives, and most  of them do have chronic herpes outbreaks, or skin problems, etc., but  they are so young (6 years of age); it's just breaking my heart.  Mandy is happily eating (stoic little thing; it HAS to hurt) so I  guess that's my one bit of positive news.   Thanks for being here.  Love, Julie "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) Paws Come WITH Claws!!! If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think  your decision to
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