[Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone,

I lost my perfect little tuxedo soulmate last week. He was my first cat and
the best friend ever. At age 11 we discovered he was FeLV+, likely
contracted from some kittens we were fostering at the time. We lost all
kittens within a year, went on to foster another FeLV kitty, Jazz, for a
year before we lost him to the virus too. Krammer hung in there for 4 more
years with this stupid virus, through many ups and downs. We loved each
other dearly and I believe that is what kept him going until the ripe old
age of 15. His nose tumor had grown all year. It distorted his face, leaked
fluid and required several daily cleanings for the last few months. He had
declined a lot and was down to 6.5 pounds at the end, but was still eating
and using the bathroom normally. A week ago I discovered his tumor was
beginning to affect the roof of his mouth and I didn't want to wait until
it ruptured there. That would have caused him unnecessary suffering. We
made the difficult decision to take him to the vet. I picked up his ashes
on Friday and they are keeping me company, as well as plenty of cuddles
from my other (non FeLV) kitty.

Thanks to everyone for the support over the years. Here is what I shared on
my Facebook page about Krammer last week:

Today I had to say a terribly hard goodbye to my best little buddy Krammer.
Last December, I noticed he had a slightly bloody nose. It turned out to be
a nasal tumor, and he fought the cancer for nearly a year. He was 15 years
old. Krammer was a Craigslist kitty. We picked him up one Friday after work
in 2005 from a Seinfeld fan who didn’t know how to spell Kramer. The funny
name stuck, and produced many, many nicknames.

Sweet Krammie, I’ll miss your perfectly pink nose and toes. I’ll miss the
way you begged to be picked up and put in the warm dryer after I finished
folding all the clothes. You’d settle down and purr. I’ll miss your
adorable nose wrinkle that appeared when you’d ferociously bite Mr.
Squirrel during playtime, and the way your neck smelled faintly like maple
syrup. I’ll miss laughing about your weird obsession with licking the
blinds and laying on crinkly paper. I’ll miss how you would come running
whenever we whistled “Morning” from Peer Gynt. That became your theme song.
I’ll miss your ridiculous call-of-the-wild yowl whenever Lady Bird wouldn’t
play with you, even the ones that woke me up in the middle of the night.

I’ll miss how every night you would come walking up the side of the bed,
purring and giving out head bumps, and paw at the blanket for me to let you
under the covers. You’d crawl in, turn around, and settle down for the
night. Though you were never a lap cat, these cuddles more than made up for
it.

I’ll miss playing chase with you on my lunch breaks. You were so excited to
see me, you’d race through the house, begging for me to catch you and give
you a big hug. I’ll miss dressing you up in silly outfits, which you mostly
just purred through. Since it’s Halloween, I hope you won’t mind if I share
a few with your fans.

I’m grateful to everyone who enjoyed and appreciated his photos over the
years. He was a delightful subject to photograph. Once during a photoshoot
of my dad’s jewelry, he walked over and sat down in the middle, giving me a
look like, “Ok, mom, I’m ready for my close up.” Over the last year, he
really enjoyed going out on his harness and leash to chase bugs and lay in
the sun. He was so curious, he enjoyed exploring new places, and I’ll
always regret that we never got to take him camping. He was a friend to so
many foster kittens and didn’t even mind the dogs he met. A truly wonderful
little being.

I’ll miss you, sweet one.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-17 Thread Katherine K.
It sounds like Gilbert was living the dream with you. Glad he knew love at
the end, thank you for helping him. I'm sorry for your losses.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

> You know, Brian, I thought of you and Gilbert regularly. I was actually
> happy not to have heard from you, thinking that things must be fine. I am
> so sorry to hear of Gilbert's loss. It is wonderful that you were able to
> give him so much love in this world.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: October-16-17 9:37 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There
>
> No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while
> so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that
> HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a
> couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write
> one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why
> I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat (
> Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at this
> point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but
> I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??
>  Certainly not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast
> majority of people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving animals
> out there that have problems that place them low on the adoption list
> they ALL deserve to have a home and someone to see them as special
> Gilbert was not adoptable with his brain injury...though ALL of the
> volunteers thought him special...still... no one came forward when he
> developed cancer though they all truly DID care that he was going to
> die  He had a good life for his last few months... sitting on the
> porch...looking out the window and more petting and love than even HE
> wanted.  As is usually the case it was probably harder on me than him
> when it came time He stopped eating, it was painful for him to get his
> oral meds and even subq pain killers did little... He was constipated and
> just hid out all day... The Tumor was forcing his one eye to protrude and
> the other to recede... it would have been cruel to ask him to endure
> more. A beautiful sweet animal I miss him terribly...
> Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.
>
>
> Bob...
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .

2017-10-17 Thread Katherine K.
Zorro sounds like a wonderful kittie boy. Sorry for your loss, Ken.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 3:54 AM, Marlene Snowman 
wrote:

> Ken, I am so very sorry for your loss. Zorro was lucky to have found you
> to love him for your year or so. I’m sure he came into your life for a very
> good reason.
>
> I am fortunate to still have my Bear for now two years, despite her
> starting off with many ailments plus FeLV having the vet immediately
> suggest euthanize as the only option. I was pleasantly surprised to see her
> put on a little more weight and reach 7 pounds this week.
>
> I am grateful for all the lovely souls who see other options, despite
> financial and great emotional toll in loving these wonderful fur babies.
>
> Marlene
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 17, 2017, at 12:29 AM, Amani Oakley 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > I am very sad to hear about your loss of Zorro. FeLV is a terrible
> disease that robs us of our beautiful furbabies, far far too soon. I am
> thrilled, though, that there are people like you out there who care and
> take the necessary steps to make little lives worth living, and lets these
> little babies know what love is, on their time on earth.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of kresch...@mchsi.com
> > Sent: October-16-17 11:24 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .
> >
> > Good Evening to all who just responded to Robert's "Anyone still there"
> email. This is my first post and I stumbled upon this site in my frantic
> effort to get info on FelV. Our tuxedo, Zorro, was with us barely a year
> when FelV took him in less than two weeks. I first saw him among the weeds
> and shrubs of my lower garden as he darted about, perhaps pursuing a field
> mouse. Over the next few weeks  I steadily coaxed him closer to the house
> with food, water and my appearances. Eventually he was on the back porch
> daily meowing for breakfast and our Teddy Bear dog, Oliver, watched Zorro
> eat from the other side of the screen door. By late September Zorro was
> eating in the house, finding the litter box and purring so loudly he could
> be heard from ten feet away.
> >
> > Zorro was neutered, vaccinated and checked over and quickly became the
> kindest, most lovable cat I've ever had and at 70 I've had a few! We all
> spent a wonderful year plus together and Oliver became so accepting of
> Zorro that he allowed himself to be groomed my him. All this came crashing
> down six weeks ago. Zorro slept more, did not jump into bed with me and
> though he ate, he ate in little spurts. We took him in, tried some
> antibiotics first since he had a fever but nothing changed. Then the blood
> tests; then the devastating news: FeLV. The Vet suggested we consider
> putting Zorro down since it was incurable. I said Zorro will decide that
> action. For the next ten days we bought time with Zorro using a
> coticosteroid via pills. But the inevitable came suddenly three Monday
> evenings back. Zorro was slowly walking and then just laid down. His
> breathing became labored and I lay down next to him whispering in his ears
> and stroking his side. I told him to go, he'd done it on his terms and w
> >   ithing five minutes he was still.
> >
> > We've buried him with his bed and special blanket to cover him and keep
> the soil off. He's now beneath a tree near where I first saw him.
> >
> > Ken Resch
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-16 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Robert,
Yup, still here. My sweet boy just turned 15 at the beginning of this
month. We're at a plateau. His nose tumor growing and distorting the shape
of his face - making one eye small - plus there's a small open sore at the
top part of the bulge that seeps blood and mucus all day and leaves little
crusty snail trails wherever he sleeps. I'm cleaning his face several times
a day with wet wipes and tissues, and he's on pain meds. He looks awful but
he's still eating faithfully, so as long as there's thatI'm here for
him.
Hugs to everyone's kitties
K

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:36 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
wrote:

> No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while
> so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that
> HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a
> couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write
> one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why
> I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat (
> Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at this
> point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but
> I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??   Certainly
> not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast majority of
> people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving animals out there
> that have problems that place them low on the adoption list  they ALL
> deserve to have a home and someone to see them as special  Gilbert was
> not adoptable with his brain injury...though ALL of the volunteers thought
> him special...still... no one came forward when he developed cancer though
> they all truly DID care that he was going to die  He had a good life
> for his last few months... sitting on the porch...looking out the
> window and more petting and love than even HE wanted.  As is usually
> the case it was probably harder on me than him when it came time He
> stopped eating, it was painful for him to get his oral meds and even subq
> pain killers did little... He was constipated and just hid out all day...
> The Tumor was forcing his one eye to protrude and the other to recede... it
> would have been cruel to ask him to endure more. A beautiful sweet
> animal I miss him terribly...
> Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.
>
>
> Bob...
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] CH +FeLv

2017-09-02 Thread Katherine K.
Oh, the word is good: she was adopted by someone who doesn't have any other
cats. Thanks for checking!!

On Sep 1, 2017 9:23 PM, "Jennifer Olson" <j13w0l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Katherine K,
> What's the word on that lil baby?
> Jen
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[Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitten with mild CH in North Carolina needs a home

2017-08-22 Thread Katherine K.
Who needs a buddy for their FeLV baby?

Urgent request from Davidson County Humane Society in North Carolina. Can
anyone adopt a kitten who has tested positive for FeLV and has some mild
neurological problems (cerebellar hypoplasia)? There's a photo and video of
her on their Facebook page; she's a little brown tabby.

The shelter is desperate since she's currently being boarded at a vet and
they are being charged daily for her boarding fees. I'm an hour and a half
away and can help with transport. No info yet on what kind of test she was
given.

Davidson Humane Society
(336) 248-2706
Lexington, North Carolina


If the timing was different for me and my FeLV cat, I would consider her
but I just can't right now. :(
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Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-26 Thread Katherine K.
Marilyn, I'm so sorry about your loss of Destiny, but she will ALWAYS be
with you in your heart. She sounds like a beautiful little soul! May you
find comfort in the memories you shared together.

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Gloria  wrote:

> Marilyn,
> This pain you are experiencing is because she was so loved and left a huge
> hole in your heart.
>
> She is forever in your memory-protected treasure beyond words, I am so
> sorry and sad for you!
> Gloria
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 23, 2017, at 11:03 PM, Amani Oakley 
> wrote:
> >
> > Marilyn
> >
> > I am so very sorry for your loss. I know you know how lucky Destiny was
> to have you caring so much for her.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Marilyn Knapp Litt
> > Sent: June-24-17 12:34 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Destiny
> >
> > Just wanted to give you kind souls an update on my sweet Destiny.  I
> helped her cross the bridge last week, just a few weeks after her
> diagnosis.  The vet initially thought she had a nasal tumor, but tests were
> negative.  On this visit it was clear she had deteriorated in a week and
> had the vet was able to see the tumor. The vet said steroids would shrink
> it, but it would come roaring back.  Her head was so swollen that one eye
> was shut.  The best thing we could do was let her go while she was still
> purring.
> >
> > From onset to end there was nothing we could have changed with any
> knowledge or treatment.  She had tested neg. for FeLv and had the vaccine
> and boosters. Our other cats are negative and she never went outdoors.
> Destiny enjoyed good health until very recently when her respitory
> infection turned out to be a tumor.  Nevertheless, it really helped us to
> have the support of this community and know there was somewhere we could go
> for advice.
> >
> > Thank you all and may you all have better success and hug your kitty
> tonight.  Destiny was a peacemaker.  I never saw her hiss once, but I saw
> her sit as close as she could to our cats who hissed at her, until they
> finally were won over.  The world needs more people like my special cat . .
> .
> >
> > Marilyn Knapp Litt
> >
> >  Marilyn Knapp Litt  wrote:
> >> Has anyone used these for FeLV?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My kitty, Destiny,  is battling a bad infection.  We were shocked to
> >> find she had FeLV.  She had had the shot and a booster.  The vet was
> >> treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out
> >> the terrible truth.  I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping
> her comfortable.
> >> She is on an antibiotic.  I am giving her Essiac tea.  No idea if it
> >> is effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find
> >> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV.  Anyone have a suggestion
> >> about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection?  We
> >> thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better
> the last 24 hours.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ~Marilyn Knapp Litt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Krammer

2017-06-12 Thread Katherine K.
He doesn't have a fever and his weight is steady, so I'm bringing him home
with subcu fluids and a dose of appetite stimulate. I already opted not to
do chemo for the nasal tumor so we're just enjoying life with him one day
at a time.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Sheri Burbridge <sheri7...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Keeping you and Krammie in my thoughts today, I hope he is feeling better
> tonight. Please let us know how you're both doing when you can.
>
> Sheri
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 9:00 AM kat <merrykatme...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Prayers & Hugs for both Krammer & you.
>>
>> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:51 AM
>> *From:* "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Krammer
>> Hi everyone, please keep my 14 year old tuxedo boy in your thoughts
>> today. Krammie declined over the weekend and was very lethargic, not eating
>> much, and has the sneezes and sniffles (he has a nasal tumor which
>> is causing to the last part).  I dropped him at the vet this morning for
>> monitoring while I am at work. Thank you.
>>
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[Felvtalk] Krammer

2017-06-12 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone, please keep my 14 year old tuxedo boy in your thoughts today.
Krammie declined over the weekend and was very lethargic, not eating much,
and has the sneezes and sniffles (he has a nasal tumor which is causing to
the last part).  I dropped him at the vet this morning for monitoring while
I am at work. Thank you.

Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Annie

2017-06-01 Thread Katherine K.
Hugs to you as you remember your dear sweet girl Annie. I am so sorry for
your loss. She was cherished and loved, and will live on in your memories.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:07 AM, kat  wrote:

> Thank you for loving her for the time she was with you.  It never feels
> like it is long enough.
>
> Sleep soft, dear Annie...
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:06 PM
> *From:* dlg...@windstream.net
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
> I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts.
> She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a
> growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will
> be in pain no longer.
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Re: [Felvtalk] hiccups

2017-04-20 Thread Katherine K.
YouTube has lots of videos of cats with hyperesthesia. I thought one of my
foster cats had it so I watched a bunch of them to get a better idea of the
behavior symptoms. Very helpful.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

> My baby does this when he is just lying down and resting.  No fleas or
> anything else.  His middle area just jumps like he is having hiccups.  It’s
> been happening over the last month but all else is normal.  Eating and
> drinking and acting normal.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *kat
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:22 AM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] hiccups
>
>
>
> Ardy,
>
>
>
> Have you looked into Feline Hyperesthesia Syndrome?  It looks like the
> skin 'ripples' and the cat either bites at the spot or tries to run away
> from it, but there are no fleas present.  Here is an article from Cornell
> vet school:
>
> http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/Health_Information/
> HyperesthesiaSyndrome.cfm
>
>
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 10:16 PM
> *From:* "Ardy Robertson" 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] hiccups
>
> Hi Sheila,
>
>
>
> Our cat Tigger (who was FeLV+) did that body quiver thing, and usually
> right after eating. He did it more than our current cat – Topaz – who does
> not have FeLV. Tigger would then turn around fast and try to bite his side
> or back, and then he would run, as if running away from it. The vet said he
> had UTI and we treated him for that – and a second vet said it was UTI but
> not urinary tract infection, but rather urinary tract inflammation. They
> did all kinds of tests including taking urine samples with a needle.
>
>
>
> Topaz also does it but not as often, always after eating. The vet said she
> must have fleas and sold me some of that stuff you put on the back of their
> neck. Although they fine tooth combed her and could not find any fleas. I
> have never seen a flea on her or in the house, and I know what they look
> like and have had them in the house several years ago, and had to “bomb”
> the house and dip the cat etc. So I never put that chemical stuff on
> her. I have been trying to get her to drink more water though and she does
> it less now. She prefers to drink out of the bathroom faucet which I leave
> running in a tiny stream for her. (I have a fountain but she isn’t
> interested).
>
>
>
> I’m not convinced that any of the vets I have taken them to are correct so
> if anyone else has any idea, I’d be interested in hearing your opinion on
> what this is too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Armstrong-Brown,
> Sheila DDS Timonium
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:15 AM
> *To:* 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] hiccups
>
>
>
> Hello, my Skylar seems to have hiccups movements in his body but not
> coming out of his mouth.   Like his body jumps in the center.  His
> bloodwork was great last time besides the FELV and he isn’t due for
> bloodwork until May.  Has anyone seen this type of thing?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *HOOT*
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Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo

2017-04-14 Thread Katherine K.
Good-by, sweet, brave little Mo.

Thanks, Sheri, for giving him the best care and love. May you find some
comfort in the memories of your happy times together.

On Apr 14, 2017 9:30 PM, "Amani Oakley"  wrote:

> Sheri I am so sorry. I know the heartbreak only too well. When my mother
> used to ask me why I was so crazy to keep going out there and getting
> another cat to break my heart, and why I would want to keep going through
> this, I would reply that if those of us who love them so much aren’t
> willing to suffer in order to help them, it certainly won’t be those who
> don’t care, who will take them in.
>
>
>
> You are one of the good guys. Mo was lucky to have this time with you.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-14-17 8:37 PM
> *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
>
>
>
> We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been
> more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left
> with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he
> was ready.
>
>
>
> My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and
> more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he
> got to be with us even for a short time.
>
>
>
> Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes
> through this but at least I'm more educated about it now.
>
>
>
> Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was
> truly one of a kind.
>
>
>
> Sheri
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Re: [Felvtalk] Letting go of Mo

2017-04-11 Thread Katherine K.
So much love to you and Mo. <3 He knows you love him. Sending you strength
during this sad time.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:25 AM, kat  wrote:

> Sheri,
>
> My heart is breaking for you & little Mo - You've done the best you could
> with what you knew at the time - and all of it with great Love & compassion
> for Mo.  Each one of our furry babies teaches us so much & loves us no
> matter what.  And they take a piece of out hearts & all of our love with
> them when it is their time to transition, so none of this is ever in vain.
> Holding you in my thoughts & prayers.
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 7:26 AM
> *From:* "Sheri Burbridge" 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Letting go of Mo
> Mo's appetite hasn't improved and this morning I found him in my
> daughter's room laying in a puddle of his own urine. I gave him his
> buprenorphine but I am done forcing meds on this angel beyond comfort care.
>
> We were going to see the vet today for bloodwork, but I don't really see
> the point now. Perhaps if we had tried these meds when he first started
> slipping it would have helped him. At least I am armed with this knowledge
> for Violet.
>
> My heart is breaking. This is all so unfair.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Syringe Feeding

2017-04-07 Thread Katherine K.
I'm sorry to hear about your struggles with Jelly. I've had to syringe feed
my cat on and off at various times over the last decade. He's a willing
patient so I can't imagine how hard it would be with a cat who fights
it. One year ago today we said goodbye to Jazz. He was so strong and
healthy, until one day he wasn't. It's such a tough disease but we're here
for you.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

> Bob - it is so painful to hear what you are going through. I am so sorry.
> But Jelly does know you love him. Trust in that.
>
> With respect to the syringe feedings, I usually use a 3 cc syringe. I
> start by just trying to get a full syringe down in one sitting - little by
> little. My feeling is that, though I want to do it little by little, I
> still want to try to get at least 1/2 to 1 cc into the back of the mouth
> each time. That reduces the number of times of having to pry open the mouth
> and get the food in. If you are using baby food, I don’t water it down much
> or at all because the consistency will allow you to put it safely at the
> back of the throat without being concerned that it will trickle down the
> throat and cause choking or liquid in the lungs, etc. I will quickly squirt
> 1/2 to 1 cc at the back of the throat, hold the mouth closed for a few
> seconds and usually this results in swallowing. I can usually get in a full
> syringe this way in a very short period of time, thus minimizing the stress
> on the cat. If the food goes down fairly well, I will gauge if I should try
> a second or a third syringe. I try to do this 2 to 3 times a day, depending
> again on how much I am able to get in at a go. My philosophy is that I
> would rather bother them for a longer period of time each feeding, and try
> to go for 2 or 3 syringes, because this results in less numbers of times to
> harass them over the course of the day.
>
> With respect to the Winstrol and Prednisolone, these will not just help
> regarding the anemia but may assist in drawing away fluid from the lungs.
> Prednisone helps deal with inflammation.
>
> I know you are doing your best for Jelly and we all know what you are
> going through.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: April-06-17 7:14 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Syringe Feeding
>
> For folks who have Syringe Fed cats...
> How much do you " force" at each feeding when a cat shows little interest
> in even swallowing that which you manage to get into his mouth...   Jelly
> fights it tooth and nail...   I am WAY behind in his caloric needs because
> he fights so vehemently now about taking meds or being fed that I feel that
> it is hurting more than helping   I was using AD with High Density
> calorie paste but he doesn't like it at ALL so I am now using bits of baby
> food and alternating with KMR Kitten Milk and literally forcing him to
> swallow a couple of oz's...which is also far too little..  He still
> drinks water on his own and is urinating a large amount... for all I know
> at this point his Kidneys could be shutting down
>
> He is  lethargic enough at this point that I am 75% sure that I will put
> him down before the weekend is out...  If he were just battling anemia I'd
> have more hope for the Win/Pred/Doxy combo but with the tumor I'm feeling I
> might not be doing him any favors Admittedly... it was only a couple of
> months back that I watched my other little boy fade away at home over the
> course of a couple of months but HE was eating at least Mostly... I
> don't think " I " can take much more of watching my lovely boy die... Every
> day I'm here living my life around trying to get him to eat.. watching that
> he doesn't eat cement or other detritus ( Pica r/t anemia) putting food in
> a thousand places so that if he IS inclined at one moment TO eat there will
> be something near at hand TO eat and getting more and more depressed with
> each passing day at the lack of response.  This damnable disease!!!   6
> short weeks ago he passed his wellness exam with flying colors  They
> can be claimed in a heartbeat.   I don't know that I will take in
> another FeLV cat unless I can find a damn vet that will work WITH ME and
> give a dying cat a fighting chance...  I can't take this amount of
> sadness again for at least several months...
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 02:19:39 +
> > From: Sheri Burbridge To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
> > [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
> > Message-ID:
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing
> > he will eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I
> > know he's gotten more than his basic needs every day but he's never
> > bowled us over with his appetite, even on 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bad News..

2017-04-03 Thread Katherine K.
Sorry to hear about your Jelly boy. I've been there with the pica/anemia,
difficulty breathing, and not wanting to eat. I don't have any magic
advice, but please know we're here for you and Magellan. It's clear he is
well loved

On Apr 3, 2017 6:22 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:

> Hello All:
> I'm going to make this somewhat brief as I've had my last two messages NOT
> post..nor had I received any group messages until about 5 minutes ago..
> My remaining cat ( Magellin..  nee   Jelly )  who is my little love...
> much like Amani's Zander.  Stopped eating
> a week and one half ago...  Hospitalized for two days and vet said very
> bad URI and possible lungworm
> This was the vet the shelter uses and they often don't look to hard first
> time out to save the shelter $$...Long Story short ( just as matters
> went with my other little guy) I had to spend the money anyway to get an
> accurate DX...He has a tumor ( likely lymphoma) just forward of his
> heart... a WBC of 186000 and rapidly dropping HCT ( 5 weeks earlier I had
> an extensive wellness exam on him and he was FINE... top of the chart
> HCT... just a couple of other glitches...
> He really HATES being force fed and I don't know I am doing him any favors
> prolonging his life this way as it is not likely that he is going to begin
> to eat again on his own if it is the tumor and the Virus that are causing
> the
> loss of appetite...OR making it difficult for him TO eat ( though he does
> seem to do OK with the Pica that alerted me to the fact that he might be
> anemic... he was eating cat litter and licking the cement powder off the
> laundry room floor)
> I force fed him for a week in hopes that he might begin to eat again on
> his own  He's on Mirtazapine, Prednisolone, Winstrol and Doxy right now
> but It's literally killing me to have my little boy just unable to play or
> eat or enjoy being petted...   All the best of what we had is in
> abeyanceI don't want him to starve to death but if I keep him alive
> by force feeding him  I could just be setting him up for death by another
> means ( he is clearly having difficulty breathing...using accessory
> muscles...  only occassionally lying on his side comfortably).  He does
> not appear to be in abject pain so I am reluctant to put him down but it is
> SO trying for me particularly in he wake of losing my other little guy only
> a couple of months ago after nearly a year of trying to get him
> well..   And, once again, there is the damn matter of financial
> limitations.   If there were a "cure" and it cost me a few thousand I would
> spend the money.. but with a FeLV cat it is highly questionable if
> thousands spent could even guarantee a few more months  Currently I am
> force feeding him a few oz's a day of AD with a calorie supplement paste
> mixed in... Just enough to keep him from starving and giving him some
> fluid... just in case buying him a few extra days witnesses any kind of
> change for the positive with the meds he's getting.  I'm trying NOT
> to give in to putting him down now to save ME the heartache of watching
> another cat die over a matter of months...   Living alone and having no
> one  to talk to about this that shares my feelings for this guy and won't
> get VERY tired of hearing about it  makes it that much more difficult.
> I'm getting VERY depressed and closure could at least leave me having only
> grief to deal with...which is, frankly, a LOT easier than the daily   "
> is he doing better"?  " maybe a miracle will occur"... or putting him on my
> chest only to have him be so uncomfortable there that he immediately
> leaves   That's the hardest part He's here physically but I no
> longer have MY Jelly...   Thanks for listening...   any suggestions
> welcome...
>
> Bob
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Re: [Felvtalk] Canna-pet (CBD)

2017-03-17 Thread Katherine K.
I should point out that Canna-pet is NOT exclusively cannabis. From their
FAQ:

Will Canna-Pet products get my pet “high” after they take them?
Absolutely not. None of our products are psychoactive in any way. You may,
however, notice your pet feeling and acting a little bit more “high on
life” after regular Canna-Pet use.

So Canna-Pet isn’t “pot for pets” then?
Canna-Pet is definitely NOT “pot for pets” since it is NOT “medical
marijuana,” or “medical cannabis” in any way, shape or form. Nor is it Rick
Simpson Oil. A truly unique company with a truly unique product, Canna-Pet
innovated the field of cannabinoid nutraceuticals for pets. In fact, our
findings confirm those of the American Veterinary Medical Association
(AVMA) that cannabinoids should not be obtained from “marijuana” type
cannabis for animals. Canna-Pet® is the first and only company to produce
cannabinoid nutrition adapted for pets –  safely and effectively refined
from industrial hemp.

Are cannabinoids obtained exclusively from cannabis?
No, actually.  Canna-Pet has dedicated many years to researching and
developing our proprietary formulations and methods – which allow us to
leverage cannabinoids from many diverse plant sources. In fact,
cannabinoids and terpenes occur in, and can be refined from, many common
plants beyond hemp.  For example, CBD has been isolated from flax.
Canna-Pet is always on the lookout for the perfect formulations,
continually innovating at the frontier and forefront of cannabinoid and
nutraceutical science. We are also completely devoted to sustainable and
ethical sourcing practices, and using organic, non-GMO plants that are
screened for toxins and metals.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Funny - I just said exactly the same thing in direct reply to the post:
>
> Cannabis is not addictive. That is a bill of goods that
> has been sold to all of us for years and years and years. But don't listen
> to me on this. Look up the scientific research on this issue. It ISN'T
> addictive. And it ISN'T a "gateway" drug.
>
> Such a sad history which cannot be believed unless folks
> do their own research.
>
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: March-17-17 12:44 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Canna-pet (CBD)
>
> I'd love to know how this works.  BTW it is not addictive as they'd have
> you believe. All my kids used it in high school and college and turned out
> just fine. They never tried hard drugs. I personally think it should be
> legal.
>
> Lorrie
>
> On 03-17, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> > The only thing holding me back is my concern about it becoming addictive.
> >
> >  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > > That???s really interesting. I have been blown away with the
> scientific evidence, already available, about the effectiveness of cannabis
> in human health.
> > >
> > > Amani
> > >
> > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Katherine K.
> > > Sent: March-16-17 9:31 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Canna-pet (CBD)
> > >
> > > Anyone have experience using Canna-pet, or cannabinoids for FeLV cats?
> I just found out about it. Since I can't afford radiation for K's nose
> tumor, this looked interesting.
> > >
> > > From their website:
> > > What do customers use Canna-Pet for?
> > >
> > >   *   Anxiety<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/anxiety-phobias/>
> > >   *   Arthritis<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/pain-inflammation/
> >
> > >   *   Allergies<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/skin-coat/>
> > >   *   Cancer<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/cancer-seizures/>
> > >   *   Digestive Issues<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/digestive-
> nausea/>
> > >   *   Seizures<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/cancer-seizures/>
> > >   *   Inflammation<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/pain-
> inflammation/>
> > >   *   Joint & Mobility Issues<https://canna-pet.com/
> ailment_group/joints-mobility/>
> > >   *   Pain<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/pain-inflammation/>
> > >   *   Homeostasis<https://canna-pet.com/ailment_group/aging-wellness/>
> > >
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[Felvtalk] Canna-pet (CBD)

2017-03-16 Thread Katherine K.
Anyone have experience using Canna-pet, or cannabinoids for FeLV cats? I
just found out about it. Since I can't afford radiation for K's nose tumor,
this looked interesting.

>From their website:
What do customers use Canna-Pet for?

   - Anxiety 
   - Arthritis 
   - Allergies 
   - Cancer 
   - Digestive Issues
   
   - Seizures 
   - Inflammation 
   - Joint & Mobility Issues
   
   - Pain 
   - Homeostasis 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nasal carcinoma :(

2017-02-27 Thread Katherine K.
Thanks Amani. How much did it cost? He's already on prednisolone daily.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Hi Katherine
>
>
>
> I had a 16 year old cat who was diagnosed with an aggressive nasal
> sarcoma. I decided to treat it with radiation, but before that, I figured
> that with such a poor prognosis, I had little to lose trying other
> treatments (since none was suggested) and I put her on the
> Winstrol/Prednisolone combination. I don’t think I had her on the
> Doxycycline as well, but I may have.
>
>
>
> Kaitlin did remarkably well on the pills. When I took her in for an
> assessment to determine if radiation would help, the head oncology vet (a
> good friend) told me that if we had succeeded in getting the response he
> had seen at that point in time, AFTER he had done the radiation, he would
> have assumed it was the radiation which had caused the improvement and
> considered the radiation treatment a solid success. There was significant
> shrinkage of the tumour using the Winstrol/Prednisolone treatment, and the
> tumour had been putting out vast amounts of very very thick mucous, and
> that got under control as well. She still underwent the radiation therapy
> and it may have helped, but honestly, I think the meds helped more. Plus,
> the tumour was right between her eyes, and when they aimed the instrument,
> some of the radiation hit one of her eyes, and caused some damage.
>
>
>
> She was with me another 2 – 2 ½ years.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* February-27-17 11:02 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Nasal carcinoma :(
>
>
>
> My sweet, dear 14 yo FeLV boy Krammer was just diagnosed with aggressive
> nasal carcinoma. For the last 2 months, he has had a chronic nosebleed. It
> started out small around Christmas, and since then his symptoms have
> included daily sneezing fits, bloody nasal discharge from one side of his
> nose, and the recent appearance of a small pink mass in one of
> his nostrils which we thought was simply a polyp. We biopsied it last week,
> and the results were not good. His mitotic indexes were high, with 8-10 of
> them being in the 10 fields.
>
>
>
> Needless to say I'm devastated. It's hard to take, even when I've spent
> the last 3 years half expecting something terrible every time we go to the
> vet. :'( I'm talking to the vet later today for more information. My guess
> is we'll opt for palliative care rather than radiation or chemotherapy, due
> to his age, side effects, the rate of recurrence and my available finances,
> but if anyone has suggestions, I'm happy to hear them out.
>
>
>
> Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nasal carcinoma :(

2017-02-27 Thread Katherine K.
Thanks. I forgot to mention he's on antibiotic azithromycin at the moment,
too.

Amani, is this the combination of meds you used for Kaitlin? "combination
of Doxycycline (1/2 100 mg twice a day) plus Winstrol (1 mg x2 day) plus
prednisone/prednisolone (1/2 5 mg tablet x2 a day)."

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> The Winstrol doesn’t cost much, at least where my vet sources it. It is
> maybe $1 a day (2 x 1 mg tablets).
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* February-27-17 1:13 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Nasal carcinoma :(
>
>
>
> Thanks Amani. How much did it cost? He's already on prednisolone daily.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Katherine
>
>
>
> I had a 16 year old cat who was diagnosed with an aggressive nasal
> sarcoma. I decided to treat it with radiation, but before that, I figured
> that with such a poor prognosis, I had little to lose trying other
> treatments (since none was suggested) and I put her on the
> Winstrol/Prednisolone combination. I don’t think I had her on the
> Doxycycline as well, but I may have.
>
>
>
> Kaitlin did remarkably well on the pills. When I took her in for an
> assessment to determine if radiation would help, the head oncology vet (a
> good friend) told me that if we had succeeded in getting the response he
> had seen at that point in time, AFTER he had done the radiation, he would
> have assumed it was the radiation which had caused the improvement and
> considered the radiation treatment a solid success. There was significant
> shrinkage of the tumour using the Winstrol/Prednisolone treatment, and the
> tumour had been putting out vast amounts of very very thick mucous, and
> that got under control as well. She still underwent the radiation therapy
> and it may have helped, but honestly, I think the meds helped more. Plus,
> the tumour was right between her eyes, and when they aimed the instrument,
> some of the radiation hit one of her eyes, and caused some damage.
>
>
>
> She was with me another 2 – 2 ½ years.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* February-27-17 11:02 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Nasal carcinoma :(
>
>
>
> My sweet, dear 14 yo FeLV boy Krammer was just diagnosed with aggressive
> nasal carcinoma. For the last 2 months, he has had a chronic nosebleed. It
> started out small around Christmas, and since then his symptoms have
> included daily sneezing fits, bloody nasal discharge from one side of his
> nose, and the recent appearance of a small pink mass in one of
> his nostrils which we thought was simply a polyp. We biopsied it last week,
> and the results were not good. His mitotic indexes were high, with 8-10 of
> them being in the 10 fields.
>
>
>
> Needless to say I'm devastated. It's hard to take, even when I've spent
> the last 3 years half expecting something terrible every time we go to the
> vet. :'( I'm talking to the vet later today for more information. My guess
> is we'll opt for palliative care rather than radiation or chemotherapy, due
> to his age, side effects, the rate of recurrence and my available finances,
> but if anyone has suggestions, I'm happy to hear them out.
>
>
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[Felvtalk] Nasal carcinoma :(

2017-02-27 Thread Katherine K.
My sweet, dear 14 yo FeLV boy Krammer was just diagnosed with aggressive
nasal carcinoma. For the last 2 months, he has had a chronic nosebleed. It
started out small around Christmas, and since then his symptoms have
included daily sneezing fits, bloody nasal discharge from one side of his
nose, and the recent appearance of a small pink mass in one of
his nostrils which we thought was simply a polyp. We biopsied it last week,
and the results were not good. His mitotic indexes were high, with 8-10 of
them being in the 10 fields.

Needless to say I'm devastated. It's hard to take, even when I've spent the
last 3 years half expecting something terrible every time we go to the vet.
:'( I'm talking to the vet later today for more information. My guess is
we'll opt for palliative care rather than radiation or chemotherapy, due to
his age, side effects, the rate of recurrence and my available finances,
but if anyone has suggestions, I'm happy to hear them out.

Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

2017-02-25 Thread Katherine K.
I suggest getting her brother tested ASAP and subsequently vaccinated
against FeLV if he is negative.

On Feb 25, 2017 9:57 AM, "Sandy"  wrote:

> this is from previous posts - get your kitty cat to a vet - hopefully -
> who will not be afraid to "go outside" the box.
>
> Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day
>
>
>
> Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day
>
>
>
> Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day
>
>
>
>
>
> If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow
> moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative
> of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet
> of apometocloprimide.
>
>
>
> If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might
> consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and
> kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely
> increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this
> might also increase the liver enzymes faster.
>
>
>
>  Hope this helps!  Amani
>
>
>
>  *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *gary
> *Sent:* January-27-17 4:04 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
>
>  Amani,
>
> Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they
> must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them.
>
> Thanks,   Gary
>
>  On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote:
>
> Hi Sherri
>
>
>
> I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience
> is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are
> back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline
> to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the
> virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight
> back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have
> the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least,
> keep it from rising.
>
>
>
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> Hi Liz
>
>
>
> The only thing that works to turn back on red cell production is Winstrol
> (Stanazolol). It is an ANABOLIC steroid (as opposed to most steroids we are
> used to getting, like prednisone, which is a corticosteroid.
>
>
>
> Anabolic steroids are ones which build muscle, tissue, etc.
>
>
>
> Adding Winstrol to the combination of medication you have your cat on
> right now, would be the best thing to do. The Doxycycline acts to slow down
> or inhibit the reproduction of the FeLV virus by interfering the RNA
> duplication. The prednisone is helpful in keeping inflammation at bay, but
> neither of these helps to increase the red cells. The Winstrol acts
> directly and very quickly on the bone marrow and seems to get red cells
> generated again, quite promptly. At least it did for my Zander, and I have
> been contacted directly by several people from this group, who have
> reported to me that they also saw almost immediate (within 3 days) evidence
> of their cats’ gums/ears/pads pinkening up.
>
>
>
> The problem is that Winstrol is a controversial drug because it is also
> what professional athletes use to get bigger, stronger and faster. Quite
> unfortunately (since none of our cats are entering the Olympics) that
> association with doping scandals has cast a shadow on its use in both
> animal and people medicine. In human medicine, it is the only drug found to
> be effective in treating hereditary angioedema and anemia.
>
>
>
> Here is a blurb I found about it:
>
>
>
> Winstrol was first invented in 1959. Soon after that, the UK based
> Winthrop Laboratories created a prescription medicine from it. Later, in
> 1961, Winthrop’s patent was bought by the US based Sterling that started
> manufacturing and selling the drug in the American markets.
>
> In the beginning, Winstrol was used for a variety of medical reasons. But
> later, by the 1970s, the FDA had restricted its use to only promoting
> growth and treating osteoporosis. In the 1980s, there was a termination of
> the manufacture of anabolic steroids in the American market. But Winstrol
> was among those steroids which not only survived, but thrived in the 1980s
> and 1990s. During this period, its use was reinforced as a cure for anemia
> – as it had the power to boost red blood cell count, and was used as a
> treatment for facial swelling or angioedema.
>
> When the manufacture of Winstrol was finally discontinued, Ovation
> Pharmaceuticals bought the rights to manufacture it, in 2003. However,
> Ovation Pharmaceuticals have ceased their operations now, so the Winstrol
> products available today in the American markets are only generic and not
> pharmaceutical grade. Outside the USA, 

Re: [Felvtalk] embarassed..re: FeLV

2017-02-10 Thread Katherine K.
I see those of us with FeLV cats as being their biggest advocates. Whenever
possible, we should help to educate others and dispel the myths surrounding
them to help give them a chance at life.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:44 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net>
wrote:

> Roxanne
> Perhaps I missed something along the way... another email perhaps??   I'm
> not sure if I understand your question...  Why would you have concerns
> about letting people know you have FeLV catsand moreover why would you
> feel somehow badly that you are NOT embarassed.  I've never noted any
> discrimination on the part of other cat owners against people with FeLV
> cats  The question took me so offguard that I feel I MUST have missed
> something along the way ( eg... you run a pet care business or something
> similiar   ?? Apart from anything like that I don't see the
> downside ( even potentially) of letting people know that you are kind
> enough to look after animals that have special needs...
>
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>> [Felvtalk] Nasal polyp
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>> I?ve experienced nose issues in two cats, but in both, the problems were
>> serious (one cancerous and one some sort of abscess which eventually
>> impinged on the brain, causing a coma). Sounds like yours isn?t serious,
>> which is a good thing. But, yeah, I?ve had to deal with blood all over the
>> place as well.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Katherine K.
>> Sent: February-09-17 4:19 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Nasal polyp
>>
>> Anyone here ever dealt with a nasal polyp?
>>
>> My 15 yo FeLV cat started having a chronic bloody nose (in one nostril
>> only) about 6 weeks ago. We did a shot of Convenia, then tried 2 weeks of
>> azithromycin antibiotics. Didn't help.
>>
>> I took him in for a follow up yesterday and upon closer inspection we
>> discovered a polyp visible just on the inside of his nostril. It was too
>> small to remove with tweezers, so the vet prescribed another round of
>> azithromycin to kep infection at bay, and suggested we wait a month or 3
>> for it to grow bigger so we can remove it.
>>
>> I'm just glad it's not cancerous, but the poor guy has sneezing fits
>> daily, wakes up with dried blood crusted around his nostril each morning,
>> and I'm wiping bloody specks off my floors and walls (from the sneezes.
>> Looks like a mini crime scene in my house :-P)
>>
>> Curious if anyone else has had to help cats with nose polyps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Katherine
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>> I just had a slight cold issue and it seemed Annie always got in my face
>> when she sneezed.  I took her to the vet first day since she is positive
>> (age 8 going on 9) and felv issues usually start wi

Re: [Felvtalk] Katherine, Rebecca and Jennifer

2017-02-10 Thread Katherine K.
I'm not a new member. Been on here for about 4 years.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:51 PM,  wrote:

> Are you all new members?  I never get your emails except in "trash".  How
> do I get these people coming to my inbox?  I know I must have missed a few
> emails because of this.
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[Felvtalk] Nasal polyp

2017-02-09 Thread Katherine K.
Anyone here ever dealt with a nasal polyp?

My 15 yo FeLV cat started having a chronic bloody nose (in one nostril
only) about 6 weeks ago. We did a shot of Convenia, then tried 2 weeks
of azithromycin antibiotics. Didn't help.

I took him in for a follow up yesterday and upon closer inspection we
discovered a polyp visible just on the inside of his nostril. It was too
small to remove with tweezers, so the vet prescribed another round of
azithromycin to kep infection at bay, and suggested we wait a month or 3
for it to grow bigger so we can remove it.

I'm just glad it's not cancerous, but the poor guy has sneezing fits daily,
wakes up with dried blood crusted around his nostril each morning, and I'm
wiping bloody specks off my floors and walls (from the sneezes. Looks like
a mini crime scene in my house :-P)

Curious if anyone else has had to help cats with nose polyps.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] age

2017-02-09 Thread Katherine K.
My cat was diagnosed at age 11. He's about to turn 15. His health has been
up and down since the diagnosis.

My other cat (who is negative) gets vaccinated yearly since his diagnosis.
They were already living together so any risk of exposure had already
happened. After almost 4 years, she is still negative.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

> Jennifer, how old are your other cats? Are they vaccinated for FeLV? I
> would speak with your vet, but I have never ever had a cat spread FeLV to
> another cat in my household. I might be more worried if your other cats are
> just kittens, but if they are adults, just take the precaution of
> vaccinating them.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Jennifer Olson
> *Sent:* February-09-17 2:58 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] age
>
>
>
> On Dec 22nd, 2016 an ADORABLE young male kitty arrived crying @ our home.
> We already have 3 cats & a dog, so we tried to find him a home. After a
> month, and having allowed him inside (kept seperate from our zoo) due to
> lethally cold weather, we decided he was here to stay. I was DEVASTATED
> when he tested positive for FeLV. My problem isn't whether to give him a
> chance at as long of a happy life he may have ahead of him, but HOW !  We
> can't keep him alone in the basement bedroom forever, there isn't even a
> decent sized window for him & my heart breaks that the only time I can give
> him is to sleep by him at night. The few times I check in on him during the
> day are so brief! He has SUCH character, and is SO handsome. I don't know
> how he ended up at our home, unless he was dumped or left a nearby farm.
>
> WHERE are the rescue agencies for FeLV+ cats ? ? ? Currently I'm treating
> him for skin mites (has ear mites TOO) so he MIGHT be deemed "adoptable" at
> a shelter that does try adopting out FeLV+ cats. The precautions necessary
> to keep the mites, FeLV, oh yes- AND worms (had to treat EVERYONE) from
> spreading is also wearing me out.
>
> CAN  ANYONE  HELP  US ?
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2017 5:12 PM,  wrote:
>
> My Annie is now 9 years old and was diagnosed as positive when I got her
> at age 4.  She recently started sneezing and had runny eyes so off to the
> vet we went.  She gave her a shot of antibiotic and some more to take at
> home.  She seems to be improving, no more sniffles or runny eyes.  So far
> the discharges have been clear but I did not want to wait a few days to be
> sure.  He other problem is a lame left front leg.  It is not broken and the
> vet thinks she probably sprained it when jumping dow from high places,
> which she does a lot trying to avoid Harley who is a real pest these winter
> days.  If he cannot get outside, he is a terrorist on 4 legs, knocks things
> down, over, stares at me.
>
>  Marlene Snowman  wrote:
> > Hi Sheila, my little Bear is 1.5 years old and I've had her since she
> was a little more than 1 month old. She was very ill and tested positive
> from entry into my life. She appears healthy with good appetite with the
> exception of a nasal infection that the vet has been unable to remedy.
> >
> > I have no other personal experience with Felv although I have work
> colleagues who have cats that are 6 years old and appearing healthy.
> >
> > I'm hoping that all our fur babies have longevity and a quality of life
> too.
> >
> > Marlene
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am learning a lot about FELV cats since I found my Skylar.  Just
> wondering about how old is the oldest cat that lived with it.  I had the
> IFA test done and that is positive also even though he is perfectly healthy
> at the moment.  He will be 2 years old this month, I found him a year ago.
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Yogi's Passing

2017-01-31 Thread Katherine K.
Bob,
I am so sorry for your loss. Last night I heard the song "I'll be missing
you," and this line sung by Faith Evans always stands out beautifully to
me.

On that morning
When this life is over
I know
I'll see your face

May you find comfort remembering the happy times you and Yogi shared
together. Thank you for taking such attentive and delicate care of him. He
surely knew love.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Ardy Robertson 
wrote:

> So sorry to hear about little Yogi, Bob. He was lucky to have you! And the
> next one will be lucky as well!
> Ardy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:31 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yogi's Passing
>
> Over the months some of you might recall my little guy Yogi for whom I had
> asked advice ( mostly about his eyes) on several occassions and most
> recently for suggestions related to making money to be able to keep
> treating him..
> Well my little Yogi passed away in my arms on Sunday morningHe had
> started to go downhill a few weeks ago when his HCT dropped over a few
> weeks to 14   I did manage to get my hands on some Winstrol thanks to
> the efforts of others on this forum to whom I am eternally grateful but he
> faded too fast for it to have adequate effect ( or he simply was not one of
> the cats that was going to respond to it) He got to pass peacefully at home
> on the bed that he knew so well and with the hand of the guy that loved him
> and worked to keep him alive all these months stroking him..  I had
> actually made arrangements to put him down later that day after seeing the
> condition he was in that morning. I'm SO glad I didn't have to keep that
> appointment.
> It's been a tough go...   The little guy never really knew more than a few
> months of health.
> There was , honestly, nothing really remarkable about him ...just a ratty
> little skinny thing with one clouded over eye but he was a sweet gentle
> little soul that never so much as  attempted to scratch me despite all the
> things I had to put him through to keep him alive
> There was almost nothing left of him at the end ( started with him at 6
> months old and 7.5 lbs and progressively over a year lost 3 lbs ( about 40%
> of his body weight .  I probably would have put him down on at least
> 3 occassions if it wasn't for all the good advice and suggestions I got
> from all of you that helped me press on .
> So now I go from hurting every day watching him go downhill to the one big
> hurt of losing him  it will pass in a bit of time( though certainly not
> today!) and it gives me the opportunity to give a home to another FeLV Cat
> that would have spent it's life in a cage.. and to give a playmate to
> my still healthy guy who is still very much a Kitten in his actions and
> DYING to have someone to play with...this time I will FOSTER so that I
> don't go broke with cat care if the next little guy/girl starts to go south
> well ahead of time...
> Thanks to  all of you for being there for FeLV cats...  You all are the
> one bit of luck the kitties who have come under your care have had
>
> Bob
> Warwick NY
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Re: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement

2017-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Mirtazapine has been an amazing help for my cat too! He has struggled on
and off through the years with not eating enough. We call it the cranky
pill because it makes him meow loudly and demandingly in our faces for more
food. :) Luckily he's had a pretty healthy appetite and we only have to use
it sparingly now. It is hilarious and a very helpful way to jumpstart a low
appetite.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ardy Robertson 
wrote:

> Thanks for the update – I’m so VERY happy to hear about Curly’s
> improvements, not only for your kitty but for all the others, and their
> vets, who may begin to trust the Winstrol-Prednisolone-Doxycyclene punch
> for FeLV!!
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Randy Henke
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:53 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
>
>
>
> It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this
> forum for our little girl, Curly.
>
> At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her hematocrit
> had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice, especially Amani's,
> and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and Doxycycline.
>
> According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick kitty
> but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very low. All
> other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after less than three
> weeks of treatment.
>
> She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see more
> improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe is a good
> sign.
>
> We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have her
> good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping down. Last
> week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed to give us a
> prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for mentioning this in one of
> his posts.
>
> One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill
> (3.75 mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The
> result was phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off the
> walls within a few hours and eating everything she could get her paws on. I
> almost felt a little sorry for her because it was like she couldn't sit
> still for more than a couple of minutes. But it was like getting our old
> Curly back again in just a single day!
>
> The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
> comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again because
> of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a smaller dose could
> be effective if given every 72 hours so we are going to try doing that so
> she keeps eating. It was incredible to see her weight go up by a quarter
> pound in just a couple of days.
>
> We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended doses
> but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week ago. She does
> appear to still be making improvement without it but I'm wondering if I
> should ask for another prescription to keep that going as well.
>
> I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I know it
> can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids. I was
> following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't sure if
> that was enough.
>
> Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might have
> our Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of you people.
>
> Randy
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??

2017-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
I used LTCI when my 11 yo was first diagnosed. I believe it helped bring
him back from a very low point (anemia, anorexia, etc). He stayed on it for
about a year, then once he was stable I felt it wasn't worth the
continued cost, so we stopped.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

> Hi Patti
>
>
>
> See my response to Debbie, who just posted earlier today, with a similar
> question.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Patti B.
> *Sent:* January-19-17 4:49 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.had an eye enucleation in Sept.
> tested NEG-FELV.  But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site not looking
> right.I took him to my REGULAR vet.  He has now tested POSITIVE-FELV and is
> extremely anemic.  He is eating well and drinking.  Getting laser on eye
> surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the LTCI injections for him.  Has
> anyone here tried them ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patti
>
>
>
> "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me
> than the fear of appearing ridiculous;
> it is indissolubly connected with the fate of men."
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Questioning FELV diagnosis

2016-12-14 Thread Katherine K.
Randy,

I'm sorry your baby isn't feeling well. What an unusual story you shared.
Did your vet say anything about hemobartonella? That can cause anemia, but
I'm not very familiar with it so I can't offer much more information or
advice there. There is a Yahoo! group called Feline_Anemia. It was pretty
active a couple years ago, not sure about now, but at least you could
search the archives. I had an 8 month old kitten die from anemia, but he
was definitely FeLV positive.

Talk to your vet about prednisolone, instead of prednisone. My 14 yo FeLV
cat has been on it for a long time now. He also gets mirtazapine every few
days, which stimulates his appetite.

Keep us posted on Curly!

Katherine

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Randy Henke  wrote:

> Our cat, Curly, is ten years old. We found her outside as a kitten and had
> her tested for FELV at that time. She was negative. She's been strictly an
> indoor cat since then and had no contact with any potentially infected cats.
>
> Three months ago, she wasn't acting like herself. Very lethargic and
> moderately dehydrated. We took her to the vet. She was running a low fever
> and her blood test showed severe anemia and low white cell count. The vet
> suspected immune mediated hemolytic anemia. He gave her some fluids,
> started her on an antibiotic for any potential infections and prednisone.
> Three days later she was about the same so we took her back to the vet.
> This time they ran an ELISA test to rule out FELV even though it was
> incredibly unlikely given her history. It came back positive. They drew
> blood at that time for an IFA test to confirm it and told us to discontinue
> the prednisone immediately.
>
> By the next day, Curly was feeling better and she quickly bounced back to
> her old self which I suspect was due to the three days of prednisone
> treatment. The IFA test came back negative.
>
> We were content to think the ELISA was a false positive because Curly
> seemed fine until a couple of weeks ago when she became listless and
> anti-social again. Another blood test showed her to again be very anemic.
>
> We are very confused about what to do. The negative IFA really has me
> wondering. From my understanding, that test is 99.9% accurate in detecting
> the second stage of leukemia.
>
> A negative IFA should mean only one of two things:
>
> 1. The cat is not infected with FELV.
>
> 2. The cat is in the early stages and has not progressed to the second
> stage of the disease where the virus infects the bone marrow.
>
> That would mean that, in order for the anemia to have been caused by
> leukemia, the IFA should have definitely been positive at that point
> because it would need to be actively compromising the bone marrow's
> functioning.
>
> I am leaning toward trying prednisone again, especially since she is
> hardly eating or moving around at this point. If anyone can point out if my
> logic is flawed, please do so. Any suggestions would be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Randy
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[Felvtalk] Ottawa Canada

2016-11-30 Thread Katherine K.
I aw this posted on the Facebook group, so I thought I'd check the listserv
to see if anyone has a suggestion for this person (not me):

"Hello, My cat was recently diagnosed as FeLV+. We confirmed with an IFA.
I'd like to start fostering FeLV cats but I'm having trouble finding a
rescue to work with. Does anyone have suggestions for FeLV rescues in/near
Ottawa, Canada?"
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Re: [Felvtalk] RIP little girl Coco

2016-10-27 Thread Katherine K.
I'm so sorry Kelley. I am sure that is a shock. Thanks for loving little
miss Coco. Sending hugs during this difficult time. <3

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Kelley S  wrote:

> Lost my little Coco last night.  It was sudden - she was playing and
> running around before I went to sleep and when I woke up she was gone.
> Probably better for her that way as she didn't have to suffer through a
> long protracted illness.  Sure does hurt though.
>
> Kelley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Jelly / Yogi

2016-10-12 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Bob,

I had 3 for a while and the youngest (FeLV) was blind but very active and
playful. He would listen for and harass the other two (both are 10+ and one
is FelV) by chasing/pouncing them sometimes as they walked by, but they
also got along pretty well and would snuggle together and groom each other.
I think it depends on how dominant their personalities are.

I don't think 2 would gang up on one, the 2 playful ones would probably
just play with each other?

Stress isn't good for FeLV cats and a change in cat household dynamics can
be stressful. If you have a bedroom you can sequester the new cat in it for
a while as the other 2 adjust to having someone else in the house that
might help cut down on the stress.

Good luck!
Katherine


On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:02 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
wrote:

> Wondering particularly all you folks who have multiple cats at
> home.   I have one reasonably healthy FeLV guy weighing in at 10 lbs
> and the other guy is a bit of a twerp at 6.2lbs as well as not having a lot
> of energy due his pain and poor vision..   the healthier guy is a
> maniac and just wants to have fun...which involved periodically throughout
> the day trying to get my other guy to play by attacking him. Yogi..
> can't see well and only is able to avoid him by getting away after he is
> "jumped"  Aside from my worry about Yogi's eye getting further injured
> I am feeling badly for my other guy who I had gotten the second cat
> specifically SO he would have a play buddy..   They had SO much fun
> when Yogi was well but now the other guy doesn't( obviously) understand
> that Yogi can't really play..  Jelly ( the big guy) is often bored and
> now getting into everything to burn off energy.   I play with him a LOT
> but he's just a very energetic cat...  I've been thinking of taking in
> a third shelter cat with FeLV that I know is pretty healthy at this time
> ( though for fiscal reasons I would foster this time) and has been since
> she was a Kitten in the hopes that ( given she is the same size as Jelly)
> they might be a play match and leave Yogi alone.  I've never had three
> young cats in the house at the same time and wondering if any of you have
> an opinion as to the likelihood of the Healthier ones Play bonding and
> leaving the sicker one in peace OR will they gang up on the weaker
> guy..   The little guy is due to go to a Veterinary Opthalmologist
> tomorrow for a determination as to if his eye can be saved since his
> weakened condition puts him at high risk for the surgery  I want to
> give him every chance to survive ( comfortably) and decided that ( despite
> my desire to avoid specialist charges) I stand the best chance of getting a
> good opinion from a vet that really knows eyes ( most don't appear to
> beyond the usually seen stuffoften including Corneal Ulcers...BUT...my
> guy now has some kind of growth forming on the cornea at it's intersection
> with the Sclera... that looks almost like a large pimple and it's getting
> larger   thoughts welcome...
>
> Bob
> Warwick
>
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>>
>>
>> We lost Hodor yesterday. It was extremely hard. He stopped eating and
>> drinking. The vet had a hard time finding a vein for the catheter because
>> of his anemia. It was so sad. Thank you all for your kind words and
>> support. I wish that the vets could have done more to help him. FeLV sucks.
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Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV

2016-09-15 Thread Katherine K.
Hodor is STUNNING. Looks like a combination of my 2 kitties. Glad you found
our group, we're here to support you as you support Hodor. Thanks for
helping him.
When my cat first got sick, I had my vet order LTCI injections. They seemed
to help, but they were expensive. Hugs to both of you!

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Margo 
wrote:

> Hi Elizabeth,
>
>   Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you
> for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would
> recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his
> RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act?
>
>I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on
> it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it
> :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it
> hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going
> south.
>
> As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them,
> as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your
> negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact.
>
> Don't give up :)
>
> Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives...
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Liz McCarty
> Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat
> with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed
> lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the
> vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need
> a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The
> vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case
> we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV
> positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him
> which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was
> going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went
> forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had
> him on doxycycline  in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone.
> Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that
> and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic.   Any other
> suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull
> through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's
> in the bone marrow.  I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated,
> and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be
> separated. She's not FeLV positive.
>
> Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we
> incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is
> interested.
> http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk
>
> Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

2016-09-08 Thread Katherine K.
Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis
but we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with
ear yeast infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on
Facebook there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is
pretty active too.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank  wrote:

> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for
> the past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to
> treatment,  I asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues
> as I had read that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed
> immune system.  Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back
> positive.   I am just devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got
> her as a kitten,  she had tested positive but tested negative a month
> later.  I was told that if a kitten tested negative after positive,  that
> she had shed the virus and would be free of Felv.   I guess that is not the
> case.I would have never brought her home if I had any idea that she was
> positive as I have another cat who was and still is Felv negative.
>
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to
> use Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there
> any other recommendations?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole

2016-08-19 Thread Katherine K.
Karen, I'm so sorry for your loss of Cole. You did right by him. It never
feels like we have enough time with them, but I hope the happy memories you
shared bring you comfort during this time of sadness. Thank you for taking
such good care of him. I am sure he felt loved.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Rain Tyler  wrote:

> Sherri,
>
> I am so sorry for your loss. Cole was obviously very loved. I feel your
> pain. Three weeks ago today we lost our beloved FeLV+ Penelope.  I've been
> too upset to share that here before now.   Penelope had abnormal
> vocalizations and hyperesthesia (abnormal sensitivity to non painful
> stimuli) that in rare instances comes with Feline Leukemia due to
> myelopathy from changes in the spinal cord and brain.  She would vocalize
> loudly as she jumped up and looked at her rear as if it was offending her.
> She'd twitch her tail and growl at nothing. Pain meds helped for a while
> but then the episodes became almost non stop.   Hearing her screech and
> jump in pain repeatedly for hours at a time was heartbreaking.  We couldn't
> let her continue in that pain.  She died in my arms.  I miss her so much.
> She was my soul cat who we had since she was found at 3 days (umbilical
> cord still attached).  She survived such a rough beginning and became a
> very healthy looking cat, so we were surprised and dev
>  astated to find out she was positive, having contracting FELV in utero.
> She was healthy for two years. I am grateful for those two years but wish
> it had been much longer.
>
> I hate Feline Leukemia!!  It is such an awful disease.   My sympathies to
> you, Sherri, and everyone else who has lost a cat to this devastating
> retrovirus.
>
> Rain
>
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> > So sorry for the loss of your boy Karen. Hoping you can find peace in
> > knowing that you did everything you could and he was lucky to have you.
> > Best.
> >
> > Sherri
> >
> > From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
> > Oakley 
> > Reply-To:  
> > Date:  Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:40 AM
> > To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> > Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Cole. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 18
> >
> > Oh Karen. I am so, so, so sorry. I know how you are hurting tonight.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Karen Harshbarger
> > Sent: August-19-16 12:36 AM
> > To: felvtalk
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Cole. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 18
> >
> > Everyone thank you so much for all your caring help, but it was just too
> > late. My baby Cole died in my arms tonight. Everyone love your fur babies
> > extra tonight in honor of all the love you and I have for these little
> ones
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat

2016-08-17 Thread Katherine K.
Kitties stop eating for a number of reasons. I can only speak from my
experiences. My FeLV kitty stopped eating and gagged on syringe fed food
when he had enlarged lymph nodes pressing against his stomach and
esophagus. The lymphoma was the end for him, and I wish I had not waited so
long to take him in because I feel he suffered on the last day.

My other FELV cat has stopped eating numerous times in his life. Once,
because he had an upper respiratory infection causing general malaise and
inability to smell his food. Antibiotics and Hills A/D helped with that.
More recently it was from stomatitis - inflammation of his gums. He would
run in pain every time he took a bite. Hiding under the bed and crying.

With all the throwing up I would also be worried about dehydration. If he's
nauseated, ask your vet about pepcid and/or an appetite stimulant like
mirtazapine. I use a handheld immersion blender to blend up cans of food
with water. Makes it into a soup and they can lick it up easily. But
sometimes you just have to syringe feed.

I'm sorry, I know exactly how this feels. Just give him lots of love.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM,  wrote:

> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
> prayers.
>
>  Karen Harshbarger  wrote:
> > I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
> rescue from our yard
> > We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
> >  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They
> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest
> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our
> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No
> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr
> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a
> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived
> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
> >
> >  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
> > Tested positive for feline leukemia again
> > Bun10 (16-3(
> > Alt 294(12-130)
> > Alkp 144(14-111)
> > Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
> > Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
> > Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
> > Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
> > Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
> > Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
> > Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
> > Plt 39(151-600)
> > Rest was in normal range
> > The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
> >
> > But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few
> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not
> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up.
> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert,
> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
> > He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of
> clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only
> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening
> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He
> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times
> he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he
> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
> >
> > His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
> normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested
> negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for
> them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.
> >
> > I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and
> keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ashs positive
> test for feline leukemia again.
> > Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
> > Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and I
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

2016-06-15 Thread Katherine K.
Ashley,
My older FeLV boy gets seasonal allergies from April - November where he
has wheezing and chest congestion (No sneezing or watery eyes/nose). He's
been x-rayed for asthma a couple of times but not found much. I give him
lysine but he still has some coughing.

Sorry to hear about your little buddy! Hope he feels better soon. Glad he's
still doing well at age 2.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 AM,  wrote:

> Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in
> it), push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it
> past the painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got
> some chicken livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed
> them.  Or get some mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods
> that smell.
>
>
>  Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> >
> Hi Ashley,
>
> I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how
> devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about
> stomatitis so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very
> painful and life threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he
> is still eating and acting normal though. I read where some kitties have
> had teeth cleanings followed with regular brushings and that this can help.
> Not sure how much it would help a felv cat or if he would even let you
> brush but maybe something to consider. I have a new baby after losing my
> felv baby and am bound and determined to brush her teeth and get her used
> to it.
> As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I
> checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr.
> Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe
> something you can look into as well.
> I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am
> praying that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live
> a longer and healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our
> financial means for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you
> have and still lose to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy
> everyday you have with him. You are a good mommy and you love him and he
> knows that. I will keep you both I my prayers. I hope you will stay with us
> through your journey and lean on us as needed. It was very helpful for me
> to have this group to come to for support.
>
> Rachel
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there!
> > I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was
> diagnosed about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put
> myself out there and hopefully some of you may have experience or
> suggestions with some of things I'm facing.
> >
> > Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative
> and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to
> the vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been
> exposed to no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while
> with the rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed
> Felv and stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly
> normal- eating, playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought
> that he may not always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up-
> had them do another Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still
> perfect and he has actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and
> vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet
> diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having one his
> "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She
> prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his
> teeth for the stomatitis.
> >
> > My questions I guess are:
> > -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler
> use?  Is this the best treatment?
> >
> > -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the
> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
> >
> > -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and
> prevent (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word
> so much.)  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain
> free food and he takes multiple supplements currently.
> >
> >I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is
> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > -ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Katherine K.
Rachel, That's lovely. You could try fostering or volunteering with the
shelter or the cats at Petsmart. You could help some kitties along the way
but not have to make any big decisions or commitments until you're ready.
Of course, there's nothing quite like the excitement of officially
adopting. :) Whatever you do, I'm sure Tucker would be proud.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:

> I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t
> know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday
> my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein
> shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the
> misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of
> course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I
> curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a
> little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures
> again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about
> our memories and how much I miss him.
>
>
>
> I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder,
> they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there
> is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for
> anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am
> not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any
> illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to
> Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I
> will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal,
> but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the
> greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a
> pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to
> get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel
> of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my
> ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to.
> I guess we will see what happens…
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Ardy Robertson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
> I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your
> fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even
> though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my
> heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had
> with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a
> reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think
> Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your
> time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
> Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard
> for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of
> my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and
> imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I
> only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much.
> Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world
> though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private
> cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in
> his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted
> my love for him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy
> memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're
> here for you.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
>
> Ardy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
> I lost him y

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Katherine K.
I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories
you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for
you.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson  wrote:

> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
>
> Ardy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing
> due
> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was
> so
> very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone
> today,
> and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was
> laying
> on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
> gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
> door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
> me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
> know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
> now.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-02 Thread Katherine K.
Thank you, Amani.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Ardy Robertson 
wrote:

> Are they allowing her to keep her pets in this hotel? Or are they
> somewhere else?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 1, 2016 7:02 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
> Hey folks. This is amazing! We are up to $660 in just two hours! Thanks so
> much to those of you donating.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* June-01-16 6:47 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Margo
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
> Thanks to Margo, who got the ball rolling right away, we are already up to
> $560 in donations to Sharon’s GoFundMe Campaign, in just a few hours. What
> a generous bunch we are! It would be great if we could get to $600 today.
> Anyone else able to chip in $40 or $50?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* June-01-16 5:38 PM
> *To:* Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
> Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she
> is in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the
> Red Roof Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.
>
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Margo
> *Sent:* June-01-16 5:33 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
>
> Amani,
>
>   I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts
> that tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards
> the coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have
> someone near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.
>
>   I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some
> questions...
>
> Margo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??
>
> Hi Everyone
>
>
>
> A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South
> Carolina who needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV
> positive and 9 years old, so obviously would be immediately put down if
> taken to a shelter. The woman was about to lose her own housing and was
> trying to place these cats so they would not be homeless
> too.
>
>
>
>
> The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for
> her five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the
> street. When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon
> clearly was motivated first and foremost about concern for where her
> animals were going to end up if she became homeless.
>
>
>
> I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I
> wanted to know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals
> with strangers and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it
> wasn’t a scam.
>
>
>
> I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth
> with her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse
> than I initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a
> double-lung transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t
> have stable housing nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant
> was to take place, along with the numerous treatments before and after the
> transplant. She lives on oxygen and can barely move around and is so
> emaciated it is disturbing. Not surprisingly, this is very much hampering
> her ability to find new housing.
>
>
>
> The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian
> and not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had
> accommodations which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to
> meet certain standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there
> was mold found from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him
> and he evicted her. She paid her part of her January rent but the state did
> not pay its share because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted
> shortly after that. She has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that
> if she can find appropriate housing, the state will cover the rent, but she
> has not been able to find any accommodations which satisfy the 

Re: [Felvtalk] Tiffany

2016-05-19 Thread Katherine K.
So sorry Roxanne and Marsha. Thank you for loving them so strongly! They
were incredibly lucky to be in your care. Remember the good times you
shared.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Rachel Dagner  wrote:

> I am so sorry for your loss Roxanne, I think every single one of us do the
> “what if’s” even though we shouldn’t, we need to think about what we did
> do, and all of the love that we gave. Fortunately our kitties are
> blissfully unaware of all of our internal turmoil’s, and doubts. All they
> know is that we love them, and they love us.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Marsha
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:24 PM
> *To:* Roxanne Smith; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tiffany
>
>
>
> Roxanne,
>
> My heart goes out to you in your loss of Tiffany.  Noelle will be joining
> her in a few hours.  Perhaps their spirits can comfort one another.
>
> Marsha
>
> On 5/19/2016 12:11 PM, Roxanne Smith wrote:
>
> Thanks to all those whom gave wonderful advice on Tiffany-unfortunately,
> she had went downhill the last several days and I chose to let her
> go--Tiffany could no longer fight the battle. I still have two left with
> feline leuk.  I saw someone recommended to someone else about keeping a
> journal of good things which I like cuz right now all I can think of is
> what I should have done better.
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can you change your name on the mailing list?

2016-05-17 Thread Katherine K.
Rachel, I felt the same way when I joined so I took out my last name under
my Gmail account settings. This affects ALL emails I send, but at least it
doesn't show up now on Google.

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Rachel Dagner  wrote:

> Ok, so I am the only person on this planet with my name, if you google me,
> it’s me! Is there a way to change my name to just “Rachel”.  I know it is
> might seem silly but I don’t want anyone lurking through my private life
> who doesn’t need to be.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-05 Thread Katherine K.
I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although
not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals
to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form
stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV
positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She
needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of
the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The
positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the
other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network
him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me
off list.

Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:

> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
> my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets
> would
> come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
> How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
> point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
> the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.
> When
> I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest
> fear,
> what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
> up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care
> when
> they get there.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > Hi Margo
> >
> > I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to
> pay
> > for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> > great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby
> communities,
> > I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so
> that
> > shouldn’t be a big issue.
> >
> > I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of
> money
> > in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> > people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> > little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> > becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> > and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Margo
> > Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> > I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
> >
> > My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> > $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented"
> to
> > them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> > but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
> >
> > I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> > Told you people aren't my forte...
> >
> > Margo
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Amani Oakley
> > Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> > Hi Katherine
> >
> > I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client
> > in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul)
> > and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me
> was
> > a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is
> > obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting
> > and a new air conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to
> > $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a
> monthly
> > fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already
> in
> > a trailer park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
> >
> > This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-03 Thread Katherine K.
I'm about 5 hours from Charleston. I've been there once. I have an
acquaintance who just moved out of Charleston so I emailed her to ask about
reliable rescue groups in the area.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Katherine
>
>
>
> Are you close enough to Charleston South Carolina to look into used mobile
> homes, or know someone who can? If we have a target number to reach to
> purchase one, that would be easier for me. I think I can hit some people I
> know for some decent-sized donations, so if the purchase price is around
> $20,000, I think that is do-able, though one problem is that our Canadian
> dollar is so horribly devalued now, that anyone up here will have to donate
> 30% more than it will register in the U.S. (I have just had a quick look on
> line and I see a few in that price range. I just don’t know if what I see
> on line is a true reflection of reality on the ground. I have a former,
> very grateful client and her husband who moved down to South Carolina from
> Canada, and I have sent her an email to see if she might help regarding
> logistics as well.)
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 1:18 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
> started -- without much luck it seems.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> information and track everything about you. Can you *privately* message
> her and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly
> since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult
> situation will be contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it
> is.
>
>
>
> Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can
> collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals
> and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 1:07 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> Hi Amani,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
> Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
> conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
> private group, so you need to join the group to see it.
>
>
>
> Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.
>
>
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
> too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
> the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
> for help with rehoming her animal(s).
>
> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
> otherwise.
>
> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
>
> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> There is a 9 year

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-03 Thread Katherine K.
I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
started -- without much luck it seems.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Katherine
>
>
>
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> information and track everything about you. Can you *privately* message
> her and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly
> since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult
> situation will be contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it
> is.
>
>
>
> Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can
> collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals
> and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 1:07 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> Hi Amani,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
> Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
> conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
> private group, so you need to join the group to see it.
>
>
>
> Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.
>
>
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
> too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
> the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
> for help with rehoming her animal(s).
>
> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
> otherwise.
>
> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
>
> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> rescue that could help?
>
> He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
>
> I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
>
> Thanks,
> Katherine
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-03 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
private group, so you need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Katherine
>
>
>
> I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
> too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
> the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
> for help with rehoming her animal(s).
>
> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
> otherwise.
>
> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
>
> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> rescue that could help?
>
> He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
>
> I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
>
> Thanks,
> Katherine
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-03 Thread Katherine K.
She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
for help with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

Katherine



Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?



Amani



*From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of
*Katherine K.
*Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM

*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless



There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
rescue that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-02 Thread Katherine K.
Sounds like it would be an adoption.
On May 2, 2016 6:14 AM, "Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>
> Would this be temporary foster or adoption?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Katherine K."
> Sent: May 1, 2016 8:02 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
> There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> rescue that could help?
>
> He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
>
> I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
>
> Thanks,
> Katherine
>
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[Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

2016-05-01 Thread Katherine K.
There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
rescue that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Brock Star has left the building

2016-04-29 Thread Katherine K.
I'm so sorry, Marsha. Thanks for sharing his story. It is so unfair that
they don't have more time in this world but he had a wonderful life thanks
to you.

I lost Jazz a few weeks ago and I've found bittersweet comfort in
remembering his silly, happy personality. I hope Brock visits you soon, but
you should know he's always close by.

Katherine
On Apr 29, 2016 6:39 PM, "Amani Oakley"  wrote:

> Oh Marsha. I am so incredibly saddened by your loss.
>
> They are source of our greatest happiness and our deepest pain and despair.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Marsha
> Sent: April-29-16 6:30 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] The Brock Star has left the building
>
> Brock left this earthly plane this afternoon.  This morning he didn't get
> out of the lounge chair to greet me, refused his heart pills again, and his
> third eyelids were showing.  He did eat all the food I brought him though -
> he licked off the spoon as I held it up in front of him on the lounge
> chair.  We did half, then the other half later.  I visited with him a lot.
> He spent most of his time in his lounge chair on his fleece blanket, but
> once he got down and took a short stroll through his domain.  Usually I am
> in the lounge chair, with Brock on my lap.  Such a tired boy; his bone
> marrow was no longer working as it should - low RBC, WBC, and platelets,
> and not making new.  He had Feline Leukemia Virus, survived a year with
> Restrictive Cardiomyopathy & CHF, and just recently developed lymphoma.  So
> not fair to such a sweet and handsome boy.
>
> He received a sedative first and we spent a half hour or 45 minutes
> together.  His paw rested on my hand.  As he relaxed, he ever so lightly
> made biscuits on my hand.  He even did his elevator butt routine, but
> laying down instead of standing up.
>
> He was only with me a year and a half, but he had so much love to give out
> during that time, that there is now another permanent scar on my heart.
> Along with too many others that are still somewhat fresh.
>
> Dearest Brock, visit me soon in my dreams.  I left the patio lights on for
> your spirit to find the way back to Fort Shappell.
>
> Marsha
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Re: [Felvtalk] MY LITTLE GIRL NOT EATING MUCH

2016-04-29 Thread Katherine K.
My kitty had 6 teeth extracted in February because of gum pain. They have
healed well but the best way for him to eat is pureed wet food. I have a
Cuisinart hand-held immersion blender that makes it easy to blend a can of
food with water making it like a pureed soup. He just laps it right up and
it doesn't hurt his gums.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:25 PM,  wrote:

> OR SHE COULD HAVE STURIVITE CRYSTALS.  HARLEY HAD A CASE AND AVOIDED THE
> BOX.  HE NEEDEDFLUIDS AND MEDS.  I ALSO STARTED USING WATER FOUNTAINS TO
> ENCOURAGE ALL TO DRINK MORE AND ADDED SOME BRAGGS RAW VINEGAR TO THE WATER
> TO HELP DISSILVE THE CRYSTALS.  WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS SINCE THEN.
> ALSO FOUND ADDING A FEW ICE CUBES HELPS.  SIGHT AND SOUND OF THEM BOBBING
> AROUNDIN THE WATER IS INTRIGUING.
>
>
>  gidge...@aol.com wrote:
> > Hi all,  haven't posted here in awhile because all was going well.  Kit
> > decided she did not want to eat today.  So when I get home I intend
> > to try Baby Food (Gerber's Stage 2).  If she does not eat, I will be
> > syringe feeding her and contacting the vet.  I did see that she did
> > not use the litter box a few times, but is now using it again.  Could
> > it be a possible she has a UTI?  Any advice is appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Nancy
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[Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

2016-04-28 Thread Katherine K.
I think this has been mentioned before on the list, because I believe that
is how I found out about it, but I'm a member of the "Owners of FeLV/FIV
Cats" Facebook group and it's very active.

You have to have a Facebook account to join, and it's a closed group so you
have to request to join the group. But I like the privacy of a closed
group. My other Facebook friends can't see my cat conversations, and I know
I'm with folks who understand what it's like to live with a FeLV kitty.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/

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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock update

2016-04-28 Thread Katherine K.
Thinking of you and Brock.

Katherine
On Apr 27, 2016 11:55 PM,  wrote:

> It seems you are on the right track and keeping his feedings small will
> help also.  I know my Harley who is not sick, just gulps down too much at
> one time and then up chucks has to get small amounts to prevent that.  I
> also have a pot of lemon grass for the cats to munch on when their stomachs
> are upset.With all he has going on, he has a lot on his plate to deal
> with and other than the right medications, the greatest gift you can give
> him i love.  mWill keep both of yu in my prayers.
>
>  Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> > My cat Tucker was throwing up his food. We went to the vet and got an
> X-ray which showed a mass in his chest. I brought him home with steroids
> but he still couldn't keep food down probably the mass was restricting the
> food from passing through since he was just regurgitating it right back up.
> Then he totally quit wanting to eat. Went to the vet and got high calorie
> emergency food and a syringe , watched a video on how to do it on YouTube.
> I was syringe feeding him for several days, I was doing some research and
> saw a lot of great reviews on Life Gold I had it sent over night from
> Amazon. I got it yesterday and gave him his two doses. Today he is eating
> on his own and eating quite a bit of the emergency food and even his dry
> food that I crunched up small. No regurgitation after all day of eating. I
> am only giving him a small amount each hour of so as not to upset his
> stomach, or overwhelm him. Maybe you can try syringe feeding and/or the
> liquid gold. I hope it is not lympho
>  ma
> >  , I cried for three days straight after the X-ray. I am getting
> vitality science cat cancer kit, I am not going to put him through chemo. I
> hope to extend his time and his quality of life. He is also more perky and
> acting like himself again after just one day on Life Gold. I pray it
> continues!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Marsha  wrote:
> > >
> > > My sweet FeLV+ boy Brock has taken a bad turn.  He has been doing
> really great, and only a week and a half ago celebrated his 1 year
> anniversary of being diagnosed with Restrictive Cardiomyopathy and
> Congestive Heart Failure.  Only 20% of cats with that diagnosis make it to
> the one year mark.  Brock is on 5 heart meds and 2 supplements, and has
> been doing great.  About 2 weeks ago, his appetite seemed to be a little
> off.  Sometimes he would eat all his food, sometimes not.  He occasionally
> catches a mouse that gets into the garage, so I wondered if he was full
> when I brought his dinner. This past Saturday, he was really fussy about
> taking his pills.  He has always been really good about eating his pill
> pockets, no hassle for me, no dropping them into his mouth.  Now he is
> balking at taking them even after I dip them in wet food (and they are
> already in pill pockets).  I coax and coax, and have had to manually pill
> him a few times.  He will eat 4 and leave 1, then I have t
>  o
> >  give that one manually.  Or eat 2, and I have to give him 1.  Now he
> wants baby food, but only eats some of it, then more later.  He gets his
> supplements mixed with his food, 1 of which is potassium, so he needs to
> eat his food to get it.
> > >
> > > He had a blood panel done yesterday and a physical exam.  The vet
> confirmed the enlarged lymph nodes I felt in his neck, and said there were
> enlarged nodes in the back leg area also.  Brock's PCV is only 18%, meaning
> he is anemic.  It is non-regenerative.  A needle aspiration was done on a
> lymph node, and the cytology should be back tomorrow.  My biggest fear is
> lymphoma, and it's going to tear through like a wildfire.
> > >
> > > Marsha
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brock the Miracle Kitty

2016-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
What wonderful news for you and Brock! I know that's a happy feeling.
Thanks for letting us know, Marsha!

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Marsha  wrote:

> We just came back from FeLV+ Brock's cardiology appointment.  He was
> diagnosed with restrictive cardiomyopathy and CHF 9 months ago, with an
> average survival time being 2-6 months.  I was expecting that fluid would
> be drawn off, because it's been 2.5 months since last time, and 1.5 months
> ago, an X-ray showed fluid was starting to build up.  Not only did Brock
> have NO pleural effusion (what was there 1.5 months ago was GONE), but, the
> dilated ventricle/atrium had returned to a normal size!!  And his blood
> pressure is ideal at 128!  He still has a murmur, and thickened heart
> walls, but close enough for me to call it a miracle!  His Lasix is being
> reduced from 3x a day to 2x a day.  Checkup in 4 months unless he develops
> respiratory issues (increased rate or effort).
>
> Marsha
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Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot (was Lymph Nodes)

2015-11-17 Thread Katherine K.
Maya, I'm so sorry to hear about Merlot. Thank you for your dedicated care
for him over the last year and a half, since you first found out about his
illness after the loss of Yang. I know it is difficult to lose them after
you both fight so hard, but I hope you can find comfort in knowing you did
right by him in every way you could, and I am sure he knew that and felt
your love. May the memories you shared together bring you some peace during
this sad time.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Marsha  wrote:

> Maya,  so sorry to hear about Merlot. May his spirit be with you always,
> purring to yours across the divide when you need it most.
>
> Marsha
>
> On 11/17/2015 6:59 AM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
>
>>
>> Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support
>> over the month, it has been incredible.
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bella

2015-10-28 Thread Katherine K.
So sorry to hear about Bella. Thank you for taking good care of her, I am
sure she knew she was loved.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge

2015-09-28 Thread Katherine K.
I'm so sorry Kelley. Thank you for taking such good care of Merlin. I know
he appreciated it. <3 <3 <3

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Kelley,
> -
> You did NOT fail him.  Heart disease is not easily detected and cats
> are very good at hiding their pain and illness.  I had a FelV cat who
> just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she
> simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest
> any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age.
> -
> Lorrie
>
> On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> >I failed him.  I did not notice his symptoms in time.  Now I have
> his
> >"sister" (not blood related" by herself.  She is going to be
> >miserable,she does not like to be alone.  I had an appointment for 2
> >other cats on Monday.  I am switching her out with one of them so
> that
> >I can get her completely checked out.  Not that heart failure is
> >contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now,
> >cat.  I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.  I don't
> >have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to
> >handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).  I
> guess
> >any cat is "potentially chronically ill." Â By the way, I fell even
> >more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2
> FELV+
> >kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.  I read
> >between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized
> or
> >did not want them when they tested pos. Â
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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

2015-09-21 Thread Katherine K.
We are hanging in there. My 2.5 year old, Jazz just went for his annual
check up and weighed in at 13.5 lbs! He's quite healthy. My 12-13 yr old
cat Krammer used to weight that much but has lost 2 lbs since May
unfortunately, and is now down to 9.5 lbs. He is on a low dose of
Prednisolone to stimulate appetite. I'm debating whether to buy more LTCI
injections - he's had them monthly for the past 2 years but they're just so
costly and hard to measure if they actually do anything.  Sigh.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Jennifer Lewis  wrote:

> All good here. Brynn seems as healthy as can be...
> Jennifer L
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, James G Wilson wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Just testing the list. There hasn't been any traffic in
> > awhile. Hope everyone and their little ones are doing well.
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > James G Wilson - phaedru...@comcast.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

2015-06-30 Thread Katherine K.
Kathleen,

I have used LTCI on my 13 year old cat. He was diagnosed with FeLV 2 years
ago and got 3 injections in the first month, and then has gotten an
injection once per month after that. I think it helped him initially come
back from being very ill when first diagnosed (that plus daily syringe
feeding for a month, until he regained his appetite). If you are OK with
spending $50 per shot it might be worth a try. I have not tried it on
younger cats or kittens. Don't know about Canada, but in the US my vet
orders the LTCI in packs of 3 or 10 for me, and I learned to give the
injections to him at home. It needs to stay refrigerated so there's usually
a shipping charge for an ice pack.

If he can fight through the URI, good quality food, TLC and a low stress
environment will be good for your little Oreo. If you have not tried
syringe feeding (aka assist feeding), ask your vet for a handful of 10mL
syringes and look up how-to videos on YouTube for pointers. (I think my vet
once gave my cat a dose of Valium or something similar to help jumpstart
his appetite, but that was years before he was FeLV and just had a regular
URI.) Thank you for taking care of him. Sometimes we do everything we can
but the virus is just too much for the younger ones' developing systems to
handle. In those cases just keeping them comfortable and loved is the best
you can do. Enjoy the happy moments you have with Oreo.

Katherine

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Sally Dwyer sallyldw...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Hi Kathleen,

 I have used LTCI and I live in Hamilton, Ontario.  My cat was IFA positive
 for FeLV (meaning persistently infected as the virus was in bone marrow)
 and he went negative a few months after starting the LTCI, so in my
 opinion, it is definitely worth a shot for your little Oreo.  Your vet can
 call Terry Beardsley at LTCI and he will help explain the paper work.
 Should only take a week for Health Canada to make an exception.  Otherwise
 LTCI can be shipped to a vet in the states virtually overnight.  Hope this
 helps and best of luck with your little guy.  just curious, where in Canada
 are you from?

 Sally



   On Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO kngb...@shaw.ca
 wrote:


 Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9
 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her
 kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in
 life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago,
 our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out,
 and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and
 she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said
 the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia
 and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later,
 he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he
 tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still
 have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of
 upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems
 much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help,
 or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were
 considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to
 travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there
 and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and
 had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to
 help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be
 very much appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Gloria Lane

2015-06-25 Thread Katherine K.
Thanks for letting us know about Gloria, Lance. She sounds like a
very special person to have known.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Hi List,

 Just wanted to let everyone know that Gloria Lane passed away last
 Saturday. You may have seen or corresponded with Gloria here. She was a
 frequent contributor to several FeLV+ support groups.

 Gloria was a dedicated foster, volunteer, and all-around compassionate
 woman who worked with Feline Rescue and Rehome (FuRR) and no doubt other
 groups. MC could tell you more about the specifics. I know that they worked
 together both online and off to help cats in need.

 My personal memories are that Gloria responded with kindness and support
 to some of my early (panicky) posts after Ember tested positive in 2006,
 and she kept responding when I’d post concerns.

 We will miss her.

 Rest in peace, Gloria.

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Re: [Felvtalk] cat with leukemia to rehome

2015-05-09 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Maria,
Does he have leukemia, or the feline leukemia virus? They are different
things.
It will help our group to know where you or your sister live.
Katherine
On May 9, 2015 6:32 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I am sure that others on the list will tell you the same as I have.
 Leukemia is not as bad as many vets would have you believe.  Yes, it is
 serious but can be dealt with.  When Annie was diagnosed, my vet told me
 that I had 2 choices;  pout her down or keep her and watch carefully for
 signs of the disease along with vaccinating my other cats for FELV.  Annie
 hs never had any problems.  I had one other that showed up at my house with
 a lot of problems.  She had her tail bitten off by a raccoon, was close to
 starving.  With good food, clean water and a house to live in, she lasted
 over 2 years.  She died from a UTI and stones.  Please explain to possible
 adopters that this is not a death sentence.  With good food, care and love,
 this kitten could last many years.

  Maria Hunter maria.hunte...@cox.net wrote:
 
 
  Hello, I am new to this site so I am not sure if my post made it in your
  list. I am helping my sister rehome her cats and recently when I had one
 of
  the cats neutered I was told he has leukemia. Is anyone looking for a
  companion animal? He is one yrs old and looks like a Russian blue. Any
 other
  suggestions would be great.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help! Anemic felv kitty, what can be done??

2015-02-27 Thread Katherine K.
Hi N.E.,
I lost an 8 month old FeLV+ kitten to anemia. He was at 13% PCV. It was
non-regenerative. I gave him an iron supplement (Lixotinic) twice daily for
about a month. He still had a good appetite and did Ok for a while, but
declined, and we euthanized him about a 4-6 weeks after he first started
showing symptoms of anemia (listlessness, weight loss, pale gums, scraggly
fur). He was

My adult cat was slightly anemic when he first got sick with FeLV. We gave
him a series of 3-4 injections of LTCI T-cyte plus daily assist-feeding,
and he improved after a couple of months. He now gets LTCI once a month as
an immune booster (it's about $50 per shot). But, he has not had FeLV his
whole life.

I'm so sorry about your baby. I know the feeling of hopelessness, but try
to cherish your time together now. Just being there and caring for him is
already so helpful. You can also try feeding him chicken livers blended w/
a little water, to help boost his iron. Thanks for caring for him.

Katherine

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:00 PM, N. E. Juskowich nej...@gmail.com wrote:

 Time is of the essence for us and I need to know if there's something else
 that can be done for my sweet little just-turned-one-year-old boy.  He had
 a PCV of 12% and received a blood transfusion, his PCV went up a little,
 then back down, then up to 17% over the course of 24 hours.  He was put on
 7.5 mg. prednisone, 25 mg. mycophenolate, 18.75 mg. plavix (to prevent
 clots from the pred/mycophenolate combo), 25 mg. doxycycline (in case of
 mycoplasma infection), and 5 mg. famotidine to prevent GI issues from the
 pred.

 His anemia is currently non-regenerative with two most likely potential
 causes: he was agglutination positive, a sign of immune mediated red blood
 cell destruction; he may have leukemia in the marrow.  We did not do a bone
 marrow aspirate because cancer would be too advanced at this stage, the
 severe anemia indicating this to be the case.  The doctor said it could
 take a few days of immunosuppressant therapy for the bone marrow to
 respond.

 Two days after the PCV of 17% we had a recheck and it is now down to 14%.
 He is going to receive another transfusion.

 I need to know as quickly as possible: Is there anything else that can be
 done at this stage?  I was looking into treatment with TCyte (LTCI), but my
 vet said it would be a waste of time and money.  I'd read on a forum that a
 severely anemic felv kitty responded very well to the drug and I would've
 been willing to give it a shot.  My vet is of the opinion that I should not
 have bothered with this second transfusion (he had to go to emergency
 hospital for it) and the TCyte is hogwash.  I'm sitting here feeling
 hopeless and wondering if this really is the end and what do I do now if he
 doesn't respond to the transfusion.

 Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  No sugar coating necessary, but
 please be gentle.  If nothing can be done, what can I do for him to keep
 him happy and comfortable?  Will he need euthanized or will he pass
 peacefully?

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[Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone,

I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 12, has
had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a chronic issue for
the past year or so, and I've posted about it before, it's usually caused
by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells me is rare in cats, but he gets
it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, gurgly purr, frequent swallowing,
and wheezing spells once or twice a day that last for about 30-60 seconds.
Eventually the gurgles and swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an
occasional wheezing spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6
months ago, and an xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot
of pneumonia, and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.

This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's had
uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in awhile. I've
been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He gets an LTCI
injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think I'll give him
another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?

 Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv had to
say. Here's the wheezing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0

He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.

Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Judy, How is Spice doing?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, judith cook jmasse...@yahoo.com wrote:

 All
 Yes, I AM planning to do a spay, if that's what we think is best.  I have
 heard about cats in heat - really devious little devils, and pains in the
 neck.  Really want to get this resolved, and hoping that it works out best
 for my kitty.  Her name is Spice, and she is (no surprise) a tortoiseshell
 with white chest, belly, and paws.  She really looks a lot like another
 tortie I once had - a little jewel also.  Thanks so much for your advice
 and interest.  Will let you know ASAP.
 Judy


   On Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:57 AM, Margo 
 toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:



 Hi Kat
 You're still timely, there will be a meeting with the Vet
 Friday, I believe. I just want to be clear on what I stated, so there is no
 misunderstanding :). I think Kitty should be spayed, not aborted. Leaving
 her intact would be an invitation to a repeat pregnancy, and the stress of
 heat cycles. No matter how careful we are, cats get out, and a cat in heat
 is VERY resourceful! At least with a spay, it's all over with.
 All the best,
 Margo

 -Original Message-
 From: Kat Parker
 Sent: Jan 14, 2015 1:25 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat

 PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the
 ​ FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And
 if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish
 that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is
 unnecessary. I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope
 it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also,
 in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the
 stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please
 terminate this pregnancy.






 *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat
 Parker. I park cats.*
 * Spay  neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.*
 *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE  HAPPY
 cat!*

 *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
adopted out and is doing fine.
So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
adopters and offered retesting for free) -- None of them came back
positive.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

  What kind of symptoms did he have before he was diagnosed, and any idea
 how long he might have actually had FeLV?  Just wondering if he might have
 had it all those years, or if it was contracted more recently.

 Marsha

 On 1/20/2015 9:17 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Monthly for about 1.5 years, since August 2013, basically since he was
 diagnosed.

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 How long has Krammer been on LTCI?



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Lethargy, not eating, sleeping a lot. I had to assist feed him for a month
or so, combined with several LTCI shots, to get him back to his normal
self.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 What symptoms did he have that led you to have him tested?

 Marsha

 On 1/20/2015 9:39 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
 started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
 light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
 first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
 tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
 tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
 when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
 Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
 were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
 adopted out and is doing fine.
 So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
 had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
 to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
 before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Monthly for about 1.5 years, since August 2013, basically since he was
diagnosed.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 How long has Krammer been on LTCI?

 Marsha


 On 1/20/2015 8:32 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 12,
 has had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a chronic issue
 for the past year or so, and I've posted about it before, it's usually
 caused by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells me is rare in cats, but
 he gets it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, gurgly purr, frequent
 swallowing, and wheezing spells once or twice a day that last for about
 30-60 seconds. Eventually the gurgles and swallowing will clear up, and
 he'll only have an occasional wheezing spell. He had an
 ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6 months ago, and an xray last month of his
 lungs which showed the small spot of pneumonia, and he took an antibiotic,
 which helped some.

 This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's had
 uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in awhile. I've
 been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He gets an LTCI
 injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think I'll give him
 another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?

  Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv had
 to say. Here's the wheezing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
 v=0Od-nCkzyb0

 He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
OK, my memory isn't so good, but I did some digging and found a video I
took in January 2012 of him wheezing (about 1 and a half years before he
was diagnosed FeLV). So I guess it's been a longer issue. But has never
really interfered with quality of life.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lethargy, not eating, sleeping a lot. I had to assist feed him for a month
 or so, combined with several LTCI shots, to get him back to his normal
 self.

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 What symptoms did he have that led you to have him tested?

 Marsha

 On 1/20/2015 9:39 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
 started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
 light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
 first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
 tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
 tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
 when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
 Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
 were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
 adopted out and is doing fine.
 So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
 had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
 to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
 before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
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Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat

2015-01-16 Thread Katherine K.
That's a tough issue and I can see both sides. The kittens would take a lot
of her nutrients during nursing, but I don't know how much that would
compromise her immune system. The idea of eliminating a pregnancy during
spay appeals to no one, but raising a litter of positive kittens has it's
own share of heartbreaks. I'm sure you and your vet will make the right
call for sweet Spice. She's lucky to have you caring for her.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 I am getting more confused.  A standard spay of a female cat involves
 removal of both ovaries and both uterine horns.  The uterus is not left
 behind, so there would be no D  C as is done with humans after a
 miscarriage.  The ovaries, uterus, AND kittens inside it would come out
 during a spay, thus terminating (or aborting) the pregnancy by default.
 Spaying is not just tying tubes.  If she was confirmed positive by IFA
 test, I personally would schedule this asap, but would ask the vet about
 what happens at whatever stage of pregnancy she's at, and how would they
 ensure the kittens would pass peacefully.  It's awful to think about, but
 bringing a litter (how many? 3, 4, 5 or more?) of FeLV+ kittens into the
 world isn't so great to think about either.  How would you place them,
 would you keep them all? It would be very hard emotionally and financially,
 I think.

 Marsha
 (best wishes, whatever you decide)

 On 1/15/2015 8:26 PM, Korruptakitty wrote:

 Well, yes, of course spayed.  I was just saying terminated because
 after a certain point, sometimes a kitty dnc of sorts, is necessary.  I
 didn't mean to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means.

 Sealed with a purr..  =^.,^=

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Re: [Felvtalk] Stinky Lancelot is gone

2015-01-01 Thread Katherine K.
Kat, I'm so sorry for the loss of your sweet friend Lancelot. I hope you
find comfort in remembering the good times you shared.
On Dec 29, 2014 1:45 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

  Kat, my heart goes out to you and your family in your loss of little
 Lancelot.

 Marsha

 On 12/28/2014 4:16 PM, Kat Parker wrote:

  *Once upon a time, almost 4 years ago, I was fostering for a group,
 which incidentally had major problems later, called Guardian Angels.  I was
 also indie fostering myself, for cats from Downey high kill shelter in LA.
 I had recently pulled a mama with 3 babies that had raging URI, newborn
 kittens with pneumonia, and sadly lost two, though through the magic of the
 nebulizer, one kitten, Kiwi, and Mama Goldie were saved.  Mama was
 despondent for her babies gone, and Guardian Angels brought me two babies,
 different litters.  One, Angelina Jolie, was one day old.  The other, who
 we named Mimi, was one week old.  The woman who brought them to me said I
 should put them with Goldie to see if she would accept them  I did.  Now, I
 am a very experienced bottle feeder, and I could have bottle fed them both,
 and I did supplementally bottle feed them, but Goldie was so happy, and
 cared for the babies all so well, and it was quite a sight those three all
 nursing.  I will NEVER AGAIN place untested babies on an unrelated nursing
 mom, again.  Never. As you can guess, one of the babies was FeLV+,
 unbeknownst to us.  About a month later, I took a cat who was about 8 weeks
 old from Downey, who came with the name, Precious (we called her Isis, or
 just the buzzsaw),and that same week, GA brought me the saddest bunch of
 siblings I had ever seem, pulled by our San Diego firefighters out of a
 well, during a rainstorm.  From what I understand, somebody, apparently,
 had been walking in the rain, and heard some little frantic mews from
 somewhere nearby.  Investigating, they found a covered well, with water
 rising to the top,and kittens inside.  The fire dept responded and freed
 the kittens, turning them over to GA, and then to me.  These babies had
 muck everywhere, and fleas on parts of their bodies you couldn't even see,
 just overrun.  I have pictures its amazing.  But, these were some of the
 friendliest  most endearing kittens I've ever had here, and it wasn't long
 before the two black sisters were adopted out, through GA. Then, the little
 Mimi kitten got really sick and tested positive for FeLV, finally
 euthanized at 8 weeks old.  I tested all of the cats, then, and none who
 came into contact with her were positive.  I didn't know much about the
 disease then.  Boy, I do now.  Well the orange boy, Stinky Lancelot, and
 Angelina Jolie as well as Isis were going to Rescue House, a terrific local
 rescue org here, and they have wonderful protocol there, and tested all
 three kittens.  Sadly, this time, two were positive, Isis neg.  Isis was
 kept iso'd at their vet for an entire month to retest and be sure.  Stinky
 and Angelina came home, and didn't get into RH, although they did pay for
 retest in them, at 60 days, just to be sure they didn't turn negative, as
 so many do.  Isis stayed negative, as did Mama Goldie, and Angelina Jolie,
 my little miracle baby, who later got FIP and died in my arms at a vet, at
 8 months old and Stinky Lancelot stayed positive.  Stinky went to live with
 my mom, who had no other animals then, after her 21 yr old rescued Peekaboo
 kitty passed, and was a perfect fit.  What a ham, what a life!  My son also
 lived there during this time, and the two became best friends.  Two weeks
 ago, Stinky went to my vet as he was not feeling well, and had like little
 pools of blood inside the bottom of both his  eyes.  Bloodwork was done,
 and it was found that he had raging leukemia cancer, severe anemia, with
 his white cell count, especially leukocytes, right through the roof.  As
 this progressed, quickly, I wanted to take him in to gently help him pass,
 but my son was having such a hard time letting go, I wasn't able to.
 Finally, about 1 am dec 26th, David was pounding on my front door, ringing
 the bell like crazy, and woke me.  He said, Stinky is doing bad, he's in
 lots of pain and gramma can't find the pain meds, help him!  So I drove
 there and got him through the night, and next morning we got in to see my
 vet early for euthanization.  But when they tried to put a catheter in, dr
 could find no veins at all.  We had waited too long.  Stinky was completely
 blind with thick cataracts, and one eye was totally filled with blood, om
 the inside.  He was in bad shape, and I was glad we finally were going to
 release him from the suffering. But because my Doctor could not find a
 vein,  they could only sedate him while we were there,and had to wait till
 we left in order to finish the euthanization, which I have a strong
 suspicion was by heartstick, as there really was no other way due to him
 being so emaciated and so far gone.  My son wanted to hold him, 

Re: [Felvtalk] How long does URI last in FeLV+ cats?

2014-12-23 Thread Katherine K.
Thinking of you and Harley today, Marsha.
On Dec 23, 2014 10:42 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 How is Harley doing today?

  On Dec 20, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:
 
  Harley is back in the hospital, where he has been for almost all of this
 week.  Too much nasal discharge to get an NG tube back in at this time.  I
 wish I hadn't taken him home last night.  How do I know when he's getting
 over the hump?  I don't want to keep pushing him and letting him get
 sicker and sicker, but he does still have some fight in him.  Been on this
 roller coaster ride before.  I didn't care for real roller coasters when I
 was a kid, and this is way worse.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital

2014-12-16 Thread Katherine K.
Go Harley!

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Just came back from visiting with Harley.  Definitely seems to be some
 kind of upper respiratory virus.  The swelling in his larynx seems to be
 better, but now he has some nasal discharge.  I reached for a kleenex, and
 the tech said, never mind, he just ate it.   He is interested in food
 now, but it's hard for him to eat with the e-collar on, and maybe there is
 some sinus pressure too when he leans forward.  His energy level is good,
 as is his interest in getting into anything he can get his paws on (he was
 allowed out of his cage while I was with him in the isolation room).  I had
 to keep a close eye on him so he didn't scatter medical supplies all over
 the room.  He's staying one more night, and I'll take him home tomorrow if
 all looks good.  Next week I bring him back to get another echocardiogram
 to check his heart.  The followup costs less than half what the first one
 costs, thankfully.

 Marsha

 On 12/16/2014 12:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF
 WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON.  SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO
 OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE.  i THINK HER
 IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE
 OVERCOMES THEM.  I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-15 Thread Katherine K.
Sorry Amy, I do agree with all of the points you made. I wish things were
easier for you and these little ones. I too have found this list to be very
supportive and helpful many times. I hope you'll keep us updated on their
status.
On Nov 14, 2014 7:10 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm sorry that people on this board disagree about the adoption fee and
 I'm disappointed that some people are making judgmental comments.  This
 board has been a great source of support to my family over the years and I
 am not feeling that at all at the moment.  I have adopted 12 positive cats
 of my own and have been on this board since I took my first mom and 3
 kittens over 10 years ago.  I have never owned a non-leuk positive cat
 until this year.  It sounds to me like people think I'm trying to make
 money off these cats or that I'm asking people to do something
 unreasonable.  Do you know what I spent in the past two months trying to
 save one leuk positive?  Over $5000.  That is one of them.  Did I not treat
 her because she is leuk positive?  No I treated her like I would any other
 cat and gave her every opportunity to live, despite her status.  I do the
 same with all my positives even though I know the end result is usually
 them losing the battle with this horrible disease.  I'm not saying that
 whoever adopts these cats should go to those lengths to save them but I
 know the veterinary care that is involved with leuk positives.  If somebody
 is worried about paying a $100 adoption fee because the cat might die, are
 they going to say the same thing about vet care?  I don't want to spend
 the money because it might die.  And what about senior cats/dogs or
 special needs cat/dogs? Rescues charge adoption fees for them as well and
 they can die in a year or two.  Why are leuks any different?  I paid an
 adoption fee at a shelter in CT for 2 of my leuk positives.  I do
 understand there is a controversy about free adoptions vs. fees.  We are
 not a rescue that cares about numbers.  We are a no-kill and we commit to
 an animal for life.  We do the best we can for that animal and are
 committed to finding it the best home possible.  We don't do free adoptions
 or try to move cats as quickly as we can.  It just isn't  how we operate.
 We have a very selective adoption process and we try to make sure all our
 cats are going to loving forever homes.  I am trying to do the same for
 these cats, even though I am well aware of how awful this disease is.

 The woman that contacted us about these kittens has placed lots of
 kittens, no vetting, no applications, no follow up.  That is not helping
 the situation to give kittens away to people that aren't going to take care
 of them or be responsible about this disease.  Asking for an adoption fee
 simply helps show that the adopters are committed and that they understand
 the expense involved in owning an animal.  It in no means makes a dent in
 the money that we spend to help them, nor is it meant to.  We are vetting
 these cats and we are trying to teach this woman about helping in a
 responsible way.  She was going to adopt these cats to anybody and just
 spread the disease or release them outside.  As it is, we are trying to get
 a hold of the stray mom who is probably outside and leuk positive.  I'm
 trying to help educate her and teach her about leukemia and everybody makes
 it sound like I'm doing something wrong.  I have placed numerous cats on
 this board over the years as people constantly call me to help the
 positives.  This woman called me and we are trying to do the right thing.
 Money is not the issue.  It costs us about $500 to vet a kitten
 completely.  There are 5 of them which means about $2500.  I am not trying
 to get that money back.  We already paid to combo test all of them and to
 treat the one for a URI without any commitment to these cats or any thought
 of an adoption fee.  She could have euthanized them all and we would have
 been out that money.  We were just trying to help her out.

 Anyway, I'm probably not going to convince any of you about the adoption
 fee but I would like to say that I never said anything about not placing
 these cats in homes with other FeLV positive cats.  I said I would do an
 IFA first because both Cornell and the SPCA suggest that.  I have
 researched this disease for the past 10 years of my life and talked to vets
 all over the country about it.  I've talked to sanctuaries as well and many
 will not take a leuk positive cat without a positive IFA.  If the cat is
 going to convert and you send it to a home with leukemia when it is IFA
 negative, you could be giving that kitten a death sentence when it could
 have a happy full life leukemia free.  Right now we are giving them 30 days
 to start converting and then we will retest.  But if somebody wanted  one
 and they had cats with leukemia, I just would want to make sure the kitten
 is truly positive.  As I mentioned, we recently had 5 positives at our
 

Re: [Felvtalk] IFA

2014-11-15 Thread Katherine K.
I don't have anything other than anecdotal experience, but we ran IFAs on
my four who were 14 weeks old and all were positive.
On Nov 15, 2014 12:28 AM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 is the IFA test valid and reliable on a 12 week old kitten?  If not do you
 have links?  I'm thinking I've heard it isn't, but can't find anything.

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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Katherine K.
Amy,
I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4
positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no
luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1
year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and
it was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had.
I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not
likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just
don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty
who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a
larger rescue organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and
testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, love and tears :)
I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them
sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth!
:)
Good luck,
Katherine

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to
 place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too
 do rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list.
 We altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25
 and today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got
 pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe
 cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing
 your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS
 POSITIVE.  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED
 ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1
 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY
 OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
 I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL
 TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM
 IN THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.

  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive
 but I didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten
 or an adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also
 got her around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had
 with leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can
 defy the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that
 there may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me
 from helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
 
  We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and
 the specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best
 for these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
 
 
  
   From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
  To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 
 
  MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8
 YEARS OLD .
 
 
 
 
   Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned
 leukemia positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by
 somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found
 outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive
 and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid
 to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster
 is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not
 want to euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She
 has five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to
 try to find adoptive homes for them.
  
   We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the
 homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We
 would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We
 have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.
 Pictures are available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give
 them names soon.  We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA
 to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other
 leuk positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if
 there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five
 positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
  
   These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them -
 spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Viralys maple flavored gel

2014-11-06 Thread Katherine K.
I buy lysine capsules and sprinkle the powder over their dry food or mix it
in with the wet. They aren't too picky and will eat it, it doesn't have
much of a smell. I think there are also flavored powders. Good to know
about the gel and the chewies though, I hadn't heard of them.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Tasted the gel, definitely a maple-y flavor, but not sweet like syrup.
 Mild, not bad tasting.


 Marsha

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Re: [Felvtalk] Such a short little life

2014-10-22 Thread Katherine K.
Elisabeth, I am so sorry to hear about Nanita. She sounds like a beautiful
little soul and wonderful, silly friend. Thank you for giving her a happy
life .May you find comfort in the memories you shared together.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am so sorry to hear that Elisabeth.  I suffered a similarly painful loss
 back in June and I can only say that grieve as much as you need to, and
 don't apologize for it.  The pain lessens with time.   3

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:50 AM, Elisabeth Eastley eeast...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It is with the greatest sadness that I have to say that out little Nanita
 passed away last night. She was just over a year old and had developed
 lymphoma which grew quite quickly. Most of her life was spent getting up to
 mischief and her nickname was Troublemaker. She was her Daddy's girl and
 lived her life to the fullest. She was a happy and affectionate little
 girl. Her loss leaves a hole that will never be filled.

 Thank you to everyone who replied to my question.

 With kindest regards

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV not eating

2014-10-18 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Elisabeth,
I'm so sorry to hear your baby is not feeling well. In general, I have
syringe-fed both Hills AD and blended chicken livers to sick cats who stop
eating. If you need assistance syringe-feeding, search YouTube for a
tutorial or there is a feline assisted feeding group on Yahoo.

My last FeLV kitten, Peanut, died from enlarged lymphoma glands around his
lungs and stomach, seen via x-ray. For the next week or so he would not eat
much and whatever he ate came right back up a few minutes later. I tried
many foods - the liquidy consistency of blended livers was all he could
keep down but he would not eat enough of it to give him much energy. He
still was friendly and sweet but his energy level went way down. His
breathing became labored and shallow for the last couple of days. We waited
too long, in my opinion, and I am afraid he suffered on his last day. We
got home from work and he was just languishing. A couple of hours later, he
was gasping for breath and retching repeatedly, likely trying to clear the
swollen nodes (tumors) from his air passage and get enough air. We had to
take him to the emergency vet that night to be euthanized.

He had always been very energetic up until the last two weeks. He was 1
year old.

There is an herbal tonic that is supposed to help decrease the tumors,
DLGEGG on this list will have more info if you want it. I did not get a
chance to try it.

Enjoy the time you spend with her. Thank you for giving her a life full of
love 3

Katherine
On Oct 18, 2014 4:09 AM, Elisabeth Eastley eeast...@gmail.com wrote:


 We rescued a kitten on New Year's Eve. She was about 3 months old at the
 time, so she is now just over a year old. She tested FeLV positive and has
 been quite well until 2 months ago. She had terrible diarreah and was very
 lethargic.( In previous months she was so active and playful and naughty
 that her nickname was Troublemaker.
 The vet said that she had lymphoma in her intestines and the glands would
 eventually cut them off. She was given antibiotics and anti inflammatories
 and there was some improvement for a while. Then we had to take her back
 for more medication.

 She has deteriorated significantly in the last 2 weeks. Her hears are
 floppy, she's gradually stopped eating - we've been trying to tempt her
 with everything we can think of. She still purrs and paws, is able to climb
 the stairs and get on the bed, but has stopped playing. Her tummy is very
 plump - but we believe that this is the glands growing bigger.

 Her quality of life at this point is such that we don't believe it is
 time, but we want to get her eating. Is there anything we can offer her
 that has been found to be successful?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Blind positive cat

2014-09-25 Thread Katherine K.
Just wanted to let everyone know that I got the blind kitty. He's sper
sweet. My other positive cat seems interested in meeting him, so hopefully
that's a good sign.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:

 And be sure to introduce the new kid slowly.
 On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Grace Mifsud wrote:

  Hi
  I have homed a few blind cats.it shoud not be a problem giving this
 blind cat a home you just have to put litter,food water always in the same
 place.they will get so used to the house you will some times think they are
 not blind.
  Grace
 
  Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Does anyone have experience with a blind FeLV+ cat? There is one near me
 who needs a home, so I am considering him. I think he is about 1-2 years
 old. I believe his blindness comes from a viral infection. I do not have
 stairs in my home, and I have been told he is littertrained. I plan to
 start him out in one room.
 
  I'm also concerned about stressing my 12 yo positive cat. He likes other
 cats, but I don't know how sensitive his immune system will be to a change
 in the household and would hate to cause him to have a health relapse due
 to introducing a new cat. On the other hand, I know how hard it is to
 rehome a positive cat, and since I already have a positive household, I
 feel like I should be open to helping other positives.
 
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[Felvtalk] Blind positive cat

2014-09-23 Thread Katherine K.
Does anyone have experience with a blind FeLV+ cat? There is one near me
who needs a home, so I am considering him. I think he is about 1-2 years
old. I believe his blindness comes from a viral infection. I do not have
stairs in my home, and I have been told he is littertrained. I plan to
start him out in one room.

I'm also concerned about stressing my 12 yo positive cat. He likes other
cats, but I don't know how sensitive his immune system will be to a change
in the household and would hate to cause him to have a health relapse due
to introducing a new cat. On the other hand, I know how hard it is to
rehome a positive cat, and since I already have a positive household, I
feel like I should be open to helping other positives.

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Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice

2014-09-15 Thread Katherine K.
Matt,
I'm sorry Roughy is having a hard time. I'm thinking of you both this
morning.
Katherine

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just wanted to send my emotional support to you and Roughy.  I will keep
 you in my thoughts.

 I lost my cat soul-mate, Yang to a VERY sudden and shocking onset of FeLV
 (we didn't know she was positive, and she was only 3) only a few months
 ago.  I hope your outcome is much happier.  Just remember that you've given
 Roughy an amazing life, and continue to do so for as long as he is in your
 life.

 Sending all our love!

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Matt Pardo mpa...@velocitystorm.com
 wrote:

  Thanks Marsha! I will check it out!



 *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
 Of *Marsha
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:39 PM

 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice



 There are also veterinarians available on JustAnswer.com.  $20.  I gave
 Milkdud dexamethasone injections, rather than the pills, so that may be
 different.

 Marsha

 On 9/14/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Pardo wrote:

 Thanks so much, Susan! I will get on that page asap. I am sticking with
 the label since I am hoping the system is more correct.



 I appreciate the quick reply!



 *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Grimes
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:40 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] need some help/advice



 Hi Matt and Roughy!!

 I just read your email and sense you need a quick answer to appropriate
 dosage for dex (which is a steroid).  I don't have a for-sure answer for
 you but, I can say thisI am a health care therapist and also a patient
 due to several autoimmune diseases.  This I know in humans, oral steroids
 are given in most cases in multiple doses (2-4) a day as it is a short
 acting medication.



  I would go by the printed dosage which is usually correct.  The best
 avenue to get quick feedback is on Face Book.  There is a page for Owners
 of Feline Leukemia and FIV cats  There are some very active ppl with a lot
 of experience that will answer pretty quickly.  I have had only a couple
 posts here.  I like and post a lot on the face book page almost daily.



 Wishing you and Roughy the best, and good health,

 Susan and Sophia



 On Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:12 PM, Matt Pardo 
 mpa...@velocitystorm.com wrote:



 Hi everyone, I am new to the list. I have been looking through the
 archives for an answer, but haven’t found it yet. Sorry if this has been
 answered before.



 My cat, named Roughy, was a feral cat with FIV and FeLV. I have had him
 for about four years now with only minor infections. However, on Thursday,
 he didn’t eat. On Friday, I took him to the vet. The vet said he was
 extremely anemic…unfortunately, I was too shell shocked to ask for a copy
 of the lab results so I can’t say what that means. He gave him a shot of
 dexamethasone on Friday and gave him fluids. He seemed much better when I
 took him home. He gave me some dex to give him to him. I could have sworn
 he said one time a day, but the label says 2 times per day (every 12
 hours). My concern is that I am giving him too much dex. The dosage per
 pill is 0.5 mg which nets to 1 mg per 24 hours. Is this ok/normal? This is
 the first anemia I have experienced and I am really worried. Poor Roughy
 had a really rough night Friday. Last night was a bit better, but he still
 seems to be struggling. I would really appreciate it if anyone knows if
 that dosage is ok. Of course, I have tried contacting my vet, but I can’t
 get him.



 Thanks!



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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-11 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Maya,

I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one was
positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against FeLV.
But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you do
decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.

However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You could
alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or if
they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. We
have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
rehoming their pets.

I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, and
certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! 3

Katherine


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.

 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
 they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
 sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
 cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
 etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
 contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
 the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
 it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
 negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
 another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
 Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
 or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smoosh

2014-07-25 Thread Katherine K.
Jennifer, I'm so sorry for your loss of Smoosh. I'm sure she was glad to be
with you. Thanks for caring for her.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Jennifer, my heartfelt sympathies on your loss of Smoosh.

 Marsha

 On 7/24/2014 11:01 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
 She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-24 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Maya,

I'm so sorry for your loss of Yang. Is Merlot also 3 years old? Last year I
had a litter of 4 kittens who all tested positive at 3 months of age. We
lost the first one at 8 months, and the last one died this May at 1 year
old. They were all very healthy and active until the last week or two of
their lives. My 12 year old cat was also diagnosed with the virus last
July. He was very sick then, but bounced back and is doing well now. He has
some minor health issues but energy, appetite, bathroom and
comfort/happiness levels are all normal. Every day I have with him is a
gift.

Yes, you can be pro-active now. The key to maintaining good health is to
feed high quality food, keep them indoors, in a low-stress environment, and
make a vet appt ASAP if something isn't right. You know him best, don't be
afraid to trust your gut.

For my 12 year old cat, since his initial illness, I have been giving him a
booster shot once a month of LTCI (http://tcyte.com/). It is not
inexpensive, unfortunately. A more economical immune system booster is
alpha interferon, which is given by mouth daily. You can search the mailing
list archives or website for more info on both of these, and talk to your
vet to decide what treatment might be best for you.

Let Merlot's happiness and joy for life guide you. Play with him, love him,
take video and photos of the two of you together having fun. It's tough
knowing they'll be gone too soon, but let that help you cherish the good
times together.

We aren't vets here, but we can offer you experience and support.

Katherine


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 My cat Merlot, just tested positive for FeLV yesterday afternoon.  We had
 him tested, because my three year old cat Yang (female) started acting ill
 at the end of June, the next morning I took her in to the vets and we
 discovered she was anemic, jaundiced and had a high fever.  They checked
 her blood levels and found she was anemic (about 13, vs 26 in a healthy
 cat).  She stayed at the vet during the day  and her blood levels didn't
 get any worse, and our vet was optimistic.  They transferred her over to
 the emergency clinic which was open all evening and in to the weekend.
  They monitored her overnight and her red blood cells decreased, her fever
 lowered but she went past normal to too cold.  That morning the blood tests
 came back and she was positive for FeLV.  We were shocked.  Even worse was
 that her detailed blood work showed no uptick in blood cell production,
 where she should have increased production, she actually had almost no
 production.  We then got to see her before we had to put her down.  That
 was the hardest day of my life.

 Now, with Merlot testing positive I am terrified of losing him so quickly,
 and I am still grieving for Yang.  I know the statistics are not great for
 long term prognosis, but he is currently healthy (just a tiny bit of
 gingivitis - we are going to start brushing his teeth).  What can I do to
 keep him healthy?  How do I live with him everyday without starting to
 grieve him already?  I know we all are going to die someday, but this just
 feels like it is going to hang over me.  I am still doing reading on the
 disease and newer treatments and such, but do these all start after the cat
 becomes noticeably ill, or are there things I can be doing now to help keep
 him healthy?  Are probiotics helpful in this case?

 For those who have or have had a healthy FeLV cat, how long did they stay
 healthy for?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-24 Thread Katherine K.
Just wanted to add - for the kittens, I didn't give them any boosters or
treaments, really. Since everything I've read said kittens usually succumb
to the illness before they turn 2, I didn't think it would make much of a
difference. And since I had 4 of them, it wasn't economically feasible for
me. One of them became anemic toward the end, so I did give him an
iron-rich liquid supplement called Lixotinic.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Maya,

 I'm so sorry for your loss of Yang. Is Merlot also 3 years old? Last year
 I had a litter of 4 kittens who all tested positive at 3 months of age. We
 lost the first one at 8 months, and the last one died this May at 1 year
 old. They were all very healthy and active until the last week or two of
 their lives. My 12 year old cat was also diagnosed with the virus last
 July. He was very sick then, but bounced back and is doing well now. He has
 some minor health issues but energy, appetite, bathroom and
 comfort/happiness levels are all normal. Every day I have with him is a
 gift.

 Yes, you can be pro-active now. The key to maintaining good health is to
 feed high quality food, keep them indoors, in a low-stress environment, and
 make a vet appt ASAP if something isn't right. You know him best, don't be
 afraid to trust your gut.

 For my 12 year old cat, since his initial illness, I have been giving him
 a booster shot once a month of LTCI (http://tcyte.com/). It is not
 inexpensive, unfortunately. A more economical immune system booster is
 alpha interferon, which is given by mouth daily. You can search the mailing
 list archives or website for more info on both of these, and talk to your
 vet to decide what treatment might be best for you.

 Let Merlot's happiness and joy for life guide you. Play with him, love
 him, take video and photos of the two of you together having fun. It's
 tough knowing they'll be gone too soon, but let that help you cherish the
 good times together.

 We aren't vets here, but we can offer you experience and support.

 Katherine


 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 My cat Merlot, just tested positive for FeLV yesterday afternoon.  We had
 him tested, because my three year old cat Yang (female) started acting ill
 at the end of June, the next morning I took her in to the vets and we
 discovered she was anemic, jaundiced and had a high fever.  They checked
 her blood levels and found she was anemic (about 13, vs 26 in a healthy
 cat).  She stayed at the vet during the day  and her blood levels didn't
 get any worse, and our vet was optimistic.  They transferred her over to
 the emergency clinic which was open all evening and in to the weekend.
  They monitored her overnight and her red blood cells decreased, her fever
 lowered but she went past normal to too cold.  That morning the blood tests
 came back and she was positive for FeLV.  We were shocked.  Even worse was
 that her detailed blood work showed no uptick in blood cell production,
 where she should have increased production, she actually had almost no
 production.  We then got to see her before we had to put her down.  That
 was the hardest day of my life.

 Now, with Merlot testing positive I am terrified of losing him so
 quickly, and I am still grieving for Yang.  I know the statistics are not
 great for long term prognosis, but he is currently healthy (just a tiny bit
 of gingivitis - we are going to start brushing his teeth).  What can I do
 to keep him healthy?  How do I live with him everyday without starting to
 grieve him already?  I know we all are going to die someday, but this just
 feels like it is going to hang over me.  I am still doing reading on the
 disease and newer treatments and such, but do these all start after the cat
 becomes noticeably ill, or are there things I can be doing now to help keep
 him healthy?  Are probiotics helpful in this case?

 For those who have or have had a healthy FeLV cat, how long did they stay
 healthy for?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-24 Thread Katherine K.
I have been unable to pinpoint who got it from whom in my house, and could
go in circles about it all day if I let myself! Did you get Yang first, and
then Merlot? For how long did they live together?


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for all of the support everyone.

 Katherine - Yang was 3, Merlot is just two years old now.  I don't know
 which cat had it and then gave it to the other.  I feel terrible, I was not
 informed on FeLV and didn't test for it before I introduced another cat in
 to my house, so one of them gave it to the other.

 I will look in to the interfuron and LTCI, thank you!

 I was not informed on cat vitamins before, so I will definitely be looking
 in to those as well.



 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just wanted to add - for the kittens, I didn't give them any boosters
 or treaments, really. Since everything I've read said kittens usually
 succumb to the illness before they turn 2, I didn't think it would make
 much of a difference. And since I had 4 of them, it wasn't economically
 feasible for me. One of them became anemic toward the end, so I did give
 him an iron-rich liquid supplement called Lixotinic.


 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Maya,

 I'm so sorry for your loss of Yang. Is Merlot also 3 years old? Last
 year I had a litter of 4 kittens who all tested positive at 3 months of
 age. We lost the first one at 8 months, and the last one died this May at 1
 year old. They were all very healthy and active until the last week or two
 of their lives. My 12 year old cat was also diagnosed with the virus last
 July. He was very sick then, but bounced back and is doing well now. He has
 some minor health issues but energy, appetite, bathroom and
 comfort/happiness levels are all normal. Every day I have with him is a
 gift.

 Yes, you can be pro-active now. The key to maintaining good health is to
 feed high quality food, keep them indoors, in a low-stress environment, and
 make a vet appt ASAP if something isn't right. You know him best, don't be
 afraid to trust your gut.

 For my 12 year old cat, since his initial illness, I have been giving
 him a booster shot once a month of LTCI (http://tcyte.com/). It is not
 inexpensive, unfortunately. A more economical immune system booster is
 alpha interferon, which is given by mouth daily. You can search the mailing
 list archives or website for more info on both of these, and talk to your
 vet to decide what treatment might be best for you.

 Let Merlot's happiness and joy for life guide you. Play with him, love
 him, take video and photos of the two of you together having fun. It's
 tough knowing they'll be gone too soon, but let that help you cherish the
 good times together.

 We aren't vets here, but we can offer you experience and support.

 Katherine


 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 My cat Merlot, just tested positive for FeLV yesterday afternoon.  We
 had him tested, because my three year old cat Yang (female) started acting
 ill at the end of June, the next morning I took her in to the vets and we
 discovered she was anemic, jaundiced and had a high fever.  They checked
 her blood levels and found she was anemic (about 13, vs 26 in a healthy
 cat).  She stayed at the vet during the day  and her blood levels didn't
 get any worse, and our vet was optimistic.  They transferred her over to
 the emergency clinic which was open all evening and in to the weekend.
  They monitored her overnight and her red blood cells decreased, her fever
 lowered but she went past normal to too cold.  That morning the blood tests
 came back and she was positive for FeLV.  We were shocked.  Even worse was
 that her detailed blood work showed no uptick in blood cell production,
 where she should have increased production, she actually had almost no
 production.  We then got to see her before we had to put her down.  That
 was the hardest day of my life.

 Now, with Merlot testing positive I am terrified of losing him so
 quickly, and I am still grieving for Yang.  I know the statistics are not
 great for long term prognosis, but he is currently healthy (just a tiny bit
 of gingivitis - we are going to start brushing his teeth).  What can I do
 to keep him healthy?  How do I live with him everyday without starting to
 grieve him already?  I know we all are going to die someday, but this just
 feels like it is going to hang over me.  I am still doing reading on the
 disease and newer treatments and such, but do these all start after the cat
 becomes noticeably ill, or are there things I can be doing now to help keep
 him healthy?  Are probiotics helpful in this case?

 For those who have or have had a healthy FeLV cat, how long did they
 stay healthy for?


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Re: [Felvtalk] charlies passing

2014-07-04 Thread Katherine K.
Michael,

I'm sorry for your loss. Charlie sounds like a big fun cat and I'm sure you
will miss him. I love tuxedos having two myself. Thanks for giving him a
chance, and for sharing his story with those of us on the list.

Katherine
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 hi everyone i have been on the list for awhile not sure why but i had to
 tell somebody about my charlie a stray i taken in almost 3yrs now he tested
 felv+ when i had him neutered he turned out to be a big black and white cat
 that loved to terrorize my 2 other males 2 wks ago he wasnt finishing his
 meals which is strange he loved to eat i also noticed him being a little
 more lethargic the humid days really bothered him he had a uri last summer
 that made him sick for about a wk i thought that was happening again then
 he started having breathing problems breathing with his mouth open got
 worse he was losing weight took to vet which was not easy since he is very
 scared of people being semi-feral he really stressed out vet told to take
 him to emergency vet once there they got him in an O2 tank he was not
 responding to treatment they inubated him so they could take x-rays his
 lungs were full of fluid and i made the decision to let him go i still cant
 believe he went that fast just the wk before he was outside chasing june
 bugs and terrorizing my other 2 guys this disease is brutal in that it took
 a robust big 3yr old beloved cat so quick thanks for listening got
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Re: [Felvtalk] help for Charlie

2014-06-17 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Emily,

I don't have enough experience to offer you any real insight or advice
about your situation, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm sorry you
and Charlie are going through this right now. I know how it is to be
stressed out and frustrated about tests, vet expenses, and not knowing the
best solution for your little friend. But like you said, it's great that
he's acting like his happy self at the moment. Take video of him doing his
favorite things while he is still happy and healthy, you will enjoy it
later.

If you are new to the list, searching/browsing the mail archives can be
helpful when considering different treatments, symptoms, etc.
http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk%40felineleukemia.org/maillist.html

Please keep us posted. Sending good thoughts to Charlie!

Katherine


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Emily Cordeaux ecorde...@gmail.com
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 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie.
 We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now
 about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests
 that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of
 his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite
 surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were
 relatively inflamed.

 At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost
 weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing
 his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the
 xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some
 bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also
 had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on
 an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him
 to Baytril to which he has responded really well.

 Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of
 Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more
 tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood
 cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we
 tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we
 stayed put).

 Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant,
 affectionate, and he eats incredibly well (he's even put on a pound).
 However, his white blood cell count is plummeting. He went from a 3.1 on
 April 2nd, to a 2.7 on May 27th, to 1.8 on June 13th.

 At this point it seems as though this isn't the result of an infection,
 but the progression of his leukemia. Our vet has presented us with some
 options moving forward but I'm not sure of what we should do.

 What's challenging is that he is so happy and vibrant right now. We're
 really afraid of doing anything that might compromise that. He is his happy
 little cheeky self and we are making the most of every moment.

 Our vet has suggested a series of tests (more blood, xray, urine, bone
 marrow) and they don't seem like our best option. Some are really
 invasive-like a bone marrow biopsy-and incredibly costly. We've maxed out
 all our credit options paying for Charlie's treatments so far, and there is
 only so much more we can do.

 Our vet has also suggested that we try putting him on steroids to see if
 that boosts his white blood cell count. She mentioned however that if this
 is an aggressive infection (and not the progression of his leukemia) the
 steroid could worsen it. She hinted that this is an option that she would
 at least try. At this point we don't have much to lose, but again we don't
 want to compromise any quality time we do have with Charlie.

 Our other option is to just keep him on the Baytril, and let things run
 their course. We could also wait and put him on the steroid once things
 worsen.

 I'd really appreciate any insights anyone can provide. This has been
 harder than I ever could have imagined. We've fallen so hard for this
 little guy and it's just been one heartbreaking visit to the vet after
 another.

 Thank you in advance.

 Emily


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Re: [Felvtalk] Popcorn

2014-06-13 Thread Katherine K.
So sorry to hear about Popcorn, Ben. He's at peace now and no longer
suffering. Playing somewhere with my Heidi, Peanut, Shmoo and Terence.
Thank you for caring for him. May the memories you shared together bring
you comfort.


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 I am so sorry to hear about Popcorn. Peace be with you in this sad time,
 and may your spirit heal that you remember the good times and smile again
 at the memories.

 Marsha


 On 6/12/2014 8:09 PM, Ben Bot wrote:


 Hi,
 Sorry, it's been an overwhelming week. It was pleural effusion, and the
 test came back positive for lymphoma. His health plummeted within 24 hours
 of bringing him home from the vet. We put him down about 2 hours ago. Thank
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[Felvtalk] Noisy purr

2014-06-04 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone,

My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr
(sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more
noticeable, other times it sounds more normal.

He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A
round of zeniquin cleared it up.

This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some congestion
(grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but vet/radiologist said
it could also simply have been that he exhaled during the film. Xray did
not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. Radiologist not overly
concerned about that area as being abnormal clinically.

He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal.

Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal.

He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested
post-nasal drip.

He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional
itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies.

He takes LTCI injections once a month.

Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have a
cat that had this problem?

Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr

2014-06-04 Thread Katherine K.
No, we just did the test for hyperthyroidism. His blood panel last year
looked pretty normal. Forgot also to say his blood pressure was normal, and
that he sometimes has wheezing spells. But vet has checked xrays for asthma
in the past and not found anything.

He was diagnosed with FeLV last July, so close to 1 year now.

Good questions about allergies and immune system. I have no idea but he has
always been a little flea allergic, possibly pollen allergic. He's on
monthly Revolution.

I have not noticed any side effects with LTCI.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Hi Katherine,

 I don't have any specific experience with this, but would like to hear
 more about how long he has been FeLV+, and does your cat have any side
 effects with the LTCI?

 On allergies, I have one cat that had spring allergies (I think tree
 pollen) that spiraled out of control 2 years ago, and then his immune
 system began to attack his own platelets, and now he is on prednisolone
 probably for life.  Not too likely to happen to a FeLV+ cat, I would think.
  But I wonder - do allergies signal an active immune system, even though
 it's attacking the wrong things?  Can you have a suppressed immune system,
 and still have allergies?  I don't know enough about how that process works.

 I'm guessing you did more blood work than for thyroid, and it was all
 pretty normal?

 Marsha


 On 6/4/2014 9:41 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr
 (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more
 noticeable, other times it sounds more normal.

 He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A
 round of zeniquin cleared it up.

 This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some congestion
 (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but vet/radiologist said
 it could also simply have been that he exhaled during the film. Xray did
 not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. Radiologist not overly
 concerned about that area as being abnormal clinically.

 He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal.

 Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal.

 He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested
 post-nasal drip.

 He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional
 itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies.

 He takes LTCI injections once a month.

 Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have a
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Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr

2014-06-04 Thread Katherine K.
Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We did
the xray first, then the ultrasound/EKG to get a closer look.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Personal layman’s opinion: If I could, I would do another x-ray in a month
 or if symptoms worsen or change in a worrisome way. If things get better,
 I’d trust the vet and what you know now. If they do worsen, I’d consider
 trying to get an ultrasound, though it’s going to be difficult. Ultrasounds
 don’t like the air that inevitably comes with lungs, but my understanding
 is that a lot of that area can be scanned by an experienced operator.

 Best hopes for your cat.

 Lance

 On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, we just did the test for hyperthyroidism. His blood panel last year
 looked pretty normal. Forgot also to say his blood pressure was normal, and
 that he sometimes has wheezing spells. But vet has checked xrays for asthma
 in the past and not found anything.

 He was diagnosed with FeLV last July, so close to 1 year now.

 Good questions about allergies and immune system. I have no idea but he
 has always been a little flea allergic, possibly pollen allergic. He's on
 monthly Revolution.

 I have not noticed any side effects with LTCI.


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Hi Katherine,

 I don't have any specific experience with this, but would like to hear
 more about how long he has been FeLV+, and does your cat have any side
 effects with the LTCI?

 On allergies, I have one cat that had spring allergies (I think tree
 pollen) that spiraled out of control 2 years ago, and then his immune
 system began to attack his own platelets, and now he is on prednisolone
 probably for life.  Not too likely to happen to a FeLV+ cat, I would think.
  But I wonder - do allergies signal an active immune system, even though
 it's attacking the wrong things?  Can you have a suppressed immune system,
 and still have allergies?  I don't know enough about how that process works.

 I'm guessing you did more blood work than for thyroid, and it was all
 pretty normal?

 Marsha


 On 6/4/2014 9:41 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr
 (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more
 noticeable, other times it sounds more normal.

 He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A
 round of zeniquin cleared it up.

 This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some
 congestion (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but
 vet/radiologist said it could also simply have been that he exhaled during
 the film. Xray did not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up.
 Radiologist not overly concerned about that area as being abnormal
 clinically.

 He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal.

 Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal.

 He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested
 post-nasal drip.

 He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional
 itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies.

 He takes LTCI injections once a month.

 Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have
 a cat that had this problem?



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Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr

2014-06-04 Thread Katherine K.
Thanks for the clarification, Marsha! He got an ultrasound/echocardiogram.
Heart looked normal.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 EKG or ECG is for electrocardiogram, where electrodes patches are placed
 and electrical impulses traced to view the pattern of heart rhythm.
  ECHOcardiogram, is an ultrasound of the heart to actually visualize the
 heart as it's pumping.

 Marsha


 On 6/4/2014 11:57 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - rest in peace

2014-06-02 Thread Katherine K.
Lance,

I'm so, so sorry to hear about sweet, beautiful Ember. Sounds similar to
what my last 2 positive kittens had. I waited too long with the last one
and wished I hadn't. You gave Ember a wonderful life and I am sure she was
grateful for that. May the good times you shared together bring you some
comfort during this time of grief. Thank you for sharing her story with us.

Take care,
Katherine


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Oh Lance, I am so sorry to hear about Ember.  My heart goes out to you.
  May memories of happy times with Ember bring you some comfort.

 Marsha

 On 5/29/2014 6:19 PM, Lance wrote:

 What we thought was anorexia being caused by a FORL turned out to almost
 certainly be mediastinal lymphoma. The vet realized that Ember’s breathing
 was even more abnormal than the hernia had made it, and while her membranes
 were pale, her RBC was good. Radiography confirmed something in the area
 where mediastinal lymphoma (I don’t know anatomy, and the day has been a
 blur).

 There is no specialist care in this area. The closest specialist who
 could even remotely help is two hours away and is going on vacation for a
 week starting tomorrow. I could not take the risk that Ember’s condition
 would deteriorate over the weekend with no real help. I felt like she would
 either suffocate or be starved beyond good health by the time we could get
 diagnosed, staged, and chemo for her.

 I’ve always said that I wouldn’t let her suffer, and so I chose to let
 her go.

 I’ll remain subscribed, but I probably won’t be tuned in, particularly as
 I deal with the emotional process that lies ahead.

 Best to all of you and your cats,

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Re: [Felvtalk] newly diagnosed woth non-regenerative anemia

2014-02-26 Thread Katherine K.
One of my positive kittens had non regenerative anemia when he was about 6
months. We gave him lixotinic (same or similar as pet-tinic), a couple of
mL per day. It helped give him some iron in his blood and feel a bit better
for a while, I think, but we lost him a couple of months later. There's a
Yahoo group for feline anemia
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Feline_Anemia/info

LTCI is more expensive. I give it to my 11 year old positive cat regularly
and it helped bring him out of an anemic period when he was first diagnosed
last year. He is now doing just fine. Younger cats immune systems are still
developing though, so it's harder for them to fight off the virus. With a 1
year old cat it's hard to say if you should try it, but if you have the
resources it may be a good option. Check out this discussion thread for
more info on LTCI - http://910pets.ning.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia

Good luck with your new little girl. We do the best we can for them but
ultimately it will take them from us far too soon.


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:50 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

 Does Epogen help if it's not kidney elated?

  LTCI says it helps if the anemia is severe. I have one dose of it I can
 send you to get started if you decide to go that route but it would only
 help if you get more. I aw it help wit boosting wbc. Anyone on the lit haf
 it help with rbc?

  Pet Tinic

  If it's nonregenerative due to lymphoma i the bone marrow, dexamethasone
 or prednisone will help for a while.

  Michelle

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 Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2014 12:56 pm
 Subject: [Felvtalk] newly diagnosed woth non-regenerative anemia


 Hello, folks...I haven't had any Felv kitties in a while but now have a 
 positive
 who is close to a year old. She was just pulled from a local shelter...she had
 begun eating litter and wasn't going to get any vet care. She had been tested
 when she came to the shelter a few months ago and they knew she was positive 
 but
 no followup care or testing was done.

 We immediately took her to our vet for bloodwork...she is anemic but not bad
 enough yet for a transfusion, and the anemia is definitely non-regenerative.

 We think that she was probably born positive...the group of cats she came in
 with...30 or so...had a number of positive adults, none altered. So her life
 will likely be quite short, and already being anemic doesn't bode well.

 SO...those of you who have dealt with a kitty in this situation...what do you
 recommend to give her the best chance at the most quality time? I have always
 found that info from this list was better than from vets who deal only
 marginally with Felv.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Katherine K.
We tapped Shmoo's lungs last night for fluid. Drew out about 90ml total. He
had a rough night coming off the anesthesia but was better this morning.
Still a little labored in breathing but not as bad as before the tap and I
was so glad to see him purring and stretching happily. But he mostly
relaxed/laid around today, unlike his 2 active siblings. Vet said the fluid
will likely refill in a few days so we just spend as much time with him as
we can while we wait. I'm unable to search the archives right now but isn't
there anything else I can do to make the fluid stop? Didn't expect to lose
another one so soon after Terence. He's so innocent.

Katherine

On Friday, December 20, 2013, Lance wrote:

 Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think it
 indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. Ember
 developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I haven’t
 taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet has
 thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen a real
 change.

 Lance

 On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. 
 kaths...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kaths...@gmail.com');
 wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had
 a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on
 it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
 little more.

 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
 case anyone has input.

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[Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone,

I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had
a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some
drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on
it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little
more.

Second question:
One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
case anyone has input.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Katherine K.
Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his
usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how
urgent it is.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had
 a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on
 it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
 little more.

 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
 case anyone has input.

 Thanks,
 Katherine

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[Felvtalk] Said goodbye to Terence (and also got a bite!)

2013-12-16 Thread Katherine K.
We said good bye to one of our 8 month old FeLV kittens, Terence,
yesterday. He had been declining for a couple of weeks and was very thin,
and definitely not as active has his 3 siblings still are. We tried making
him eat wet food but it just wasn't working and the last day or two we
didn't hear any purring. So we felt it was time for him to be in a better
place.

As the vet was giving him the first injection to anesthetize him he
squirmed around and bit me on the first knuckle and cuticle area of my
finger. I've been scratched millions of times by cats  and know how to
clean scratches, but had never actually been bitten. I had been following
this thread all weekend so I let it bleed out, then cleaned it up after we
got home with him. Overnight my finger swelled up and looks infected, and I
have a strange pain in my armpit (same arm) that I'm wondering if it's
related.

I took a couple of Cephalexin doses but I'm going to the doc this morning
since it's still pretty painful and swollen.

We've had Terence and his siblings since they were 2 weeks old back in
April. Yesterday was a bittersweet day but I'm relieved knowing he's no
longer languishing. I'm also grateful for this listserv.

Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Shelley and Jennifer,

When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to be
helpful in learning about LTCI:
http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still
respond to you if you post there.

My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating and
was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC count
at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in the
first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 weeks
for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to his
normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I don't
know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to keep
trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per
injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4
positive kittens.

Katherine


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now
 I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right
 now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley

 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net



 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:

  I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done
 with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and
 Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about
 what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment).
 Their website should mention this.
 
  To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1)
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise,
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant
 interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
  It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a
 prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does
 drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month
 and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
  It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go
 through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This
 allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega,
 which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved,
 though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do
 this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England
 for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last
 priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is
 for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according
 to the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon
 omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike
 other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+
 cat? Maybe?
 
  If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might
 still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon
 omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be
 useful to ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road,
 you have that much less work to do to get it here.
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
 
  I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he was
 seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties need
 to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same with
 the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon in
 Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If Pookie is
 doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great now since
 he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
  Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte
 T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
  Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
  http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
  not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the
 official recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, more
 research is needed.
 
  MC
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  Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
  Maybe That'll Make The Difference
  MaryChristine
 
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