Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm

2013-02-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You could also use the natural remedies found on holisticat.com. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: I use the Walmart Equate brand of Athlete’s Foot cream it is 1% Clotrimazole and has always worked for my cats, have used it many times. Just apply a couple of

Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others

2013-02-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Take heart: http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/02/03/170851048/do-we-really-know-that-cats-kill-by-the-billions-not-so-fast On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it comes to diseases in

Re: [Felvtalk] Pain meds for arthritis

2012-12-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Glucosomine can take months to work. It has to rebuild. Take a look at Dr. Jean Hofve's page: http://www.facekitty.com/2009/04/arthritis-in-cats-holistic-tre.html for some interesting information, especially Creak-away. I was never happy with the ingredients of GlycoFlex, so never gave it to

Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis

2012-12-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
No Oxyfresh is a dental thing you put in pets' water: http://www.oxyfresh.com/pet/petoralhygiene.asp (Sent the protocol directly to her.) On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:03 AM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kathryn: Can you give me the recipe for homeopathic remedy/diet for feline

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-12-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Note that one can transition kits to the much healthier wet food (and then healthy wet food, as opposed to Friskies, which is great for getting cats to eat anything) by adding in a little of the desired stuff at a time while subtracting the old stuff. Cats are instinctually fussy about food for

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

2012-12-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Not sure if it was me, but here's one of my favorites: http://holisticat.com/aromatherapy.html Some contend that they are OK if they are high-quality. I would use hydrosols or flower essences instead, just to be on the safe side. On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net

Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you

Re: [Felvtalk] Please remove me from your mailing list - thank you

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You do that yourself by clicking on the bottom link of each Felvtalk message and filling out the resulting form. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Glenda Kelly kellyglend...@yahoo.comwrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

2012-11-20 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
or not, spayed. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 3:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice If that's

Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

2012-11-20 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Breeders have vasectomized males around to get their intact females out of heat. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Someone would get a male cat a vasectomy? Or have a female cat’s tubes tied? Wow…people are stupider than I thought… B. **

Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

2012-11-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If that's the case, then why do dogs who retain their ovaries live a third longer?There's more to the overall story than just local stresses: http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html American vet schools do not teach any sterilizations other than spay/neuter. On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:34

Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia in Desi (was STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6 - Scents and other chemicals)

2012-11-08 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
My vet gave my anemic cat B12 subQs, but he still needed a transfusion. He was probably a lot more anemic, though. His blood looked like water and he had a red blood cell parasite. Have you checked for that? Here's a nice page (about which you probably already know) about anemia:

Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6

2012-11-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Dot, Please don't use essential oils, even as aromatherapy, on cats, as it's unclear, lacking as they do the liver enzymes that we have, whether or not they can metabolize the toxins in them. Just putting him in a steamy bathroom (in a carrier, so he won't jump into the tub---learned this the

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

2012-11-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Watch them for Panleuk symptoms: depression, hanging head (most of the time, not just over the food/water bowl), loose/watery stools, vomitting, low energy. If they are throwing up just bile, then they are just hungry. Can you syringe some baby food into them to get them started eating again?

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

2012-11-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I think it's generally agreed upon that kittens should get wet food, not dry. Did you try feeding the wet food you'd been giving them before they shut down? I'm an evangelist against all dry, no matter how ``healthy,'' as cats are desert animals and don't have good thirst mechanisms to make

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

2012-11-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Wonder how it worked on the virus, or does it work on viruses, too? Last I talked to the vets that treated my kittens (most died), they wouldn't use ``controversial'' Tamiflu. My friend's vet saved her litter that way. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

2012-11-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
On Panleuk? On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: But amoxicillin works too! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Kathryn Christiane. Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool no

Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply

2012-10-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Dot, Not sure if you're still on, but just saw this: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151219931374449.477932.144611599448type=1 Having been in pre-hurricanes and Nor'easters, I don't know if this would really work. Seems the rocks are a bit small. I've had plastic that I nailed up

Re: [Felvtalk] GOOGLE CHROME BROWSER/REPLY

2012-10-27 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
-- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:02 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] CHIPIN ADDRESS/THUR NGHT REPLY The operating system shouldn't matter. It's the browser. What one are you using? It works in Firefox

Re: [Felvtalk] Recipe for stomatitis

2012-10-27 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Hi, Here it is: *Holistic Stomatitis Protocol* Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones. These the supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't optional. What seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics along with Coptis Purge Fire.

Re: [Felvtalk] CHIPIN ADDRESS/THUR NGHT REPLY

2012-10-26 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The operating system shouldn't matter. It's the browser. What one are you using? It works in Firefox (on a Mac, which is essentially *nix). http://farmingdalecats.chipin.com/cat-rescue-and-recovery On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Dot, The

Re: [Felvtalk] CHIPIN ADDRESS

2012-10-25 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The Chipin seems to go to Cat Rescue and Recovery by Dorothy Winkler ( venus7ora...@yahoo.com). On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Dot, I have tried 5 times to get into the chipin address and cannot. I have no idea why. How about paypal? That works for

[Felvtalk] Fwd: Help for Goldie and Tiger

2012-10-21 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If you post the Chipin URL, I can network it to a couple of donation and feral cat Yahoo groups. Also, look on Red Rover's ``other financial assistance page for other resources (their program is for life-threatening situation aid). You can also Google something like pet medical financial

Re: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story

2012-10-21 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Trappers around here do use kittens as ``bait.'' One way I worked out was to put the kittens in a closed trap/whatever with the closed end of the trap putting up against it. Cover the trap except for both ends, and also the kitten container, and the mom will see going through the trap as the

Re: [Felvtalk] I found something that works great on the FA and FL,

2012-10-20 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You're probably asking her how *she* makes CS, but I Googled making colloidal silver and found some fun stuff! I don't have any cats that either have cancer nor any of the viruii, but I would not hesitate to try this. If anyone does, please let us know if it works for you, too! Toni, do you

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-18 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
are killed testing new drugs that could be tested in half the time using upgraded technology. Sigh. I need to get off this Soap Box and go clean the litter boxes. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-18 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I this what you wrote? ``In my area they ahve an animal control for dogs, cats are just shot.'' According to Alley Cat Allies, it's illegal throughout the U.S. to shoot cats. Maybe that only applies to citizens. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Kathryn

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-17 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, per Gavin Nicols' comment on http://www.no-killnews.com/?p=3935 San Antonio is nowhere near No Kill (90%+), even if they considered FIV+/Felv+ cats healthy, which you indicate they don't: ``For 2012 Fiscal Year to Date, the healthy and treatable dogs and cats make up 76% of total intake (in

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic, of interest to many: Webcast: Fixing the Feline Housing Crisis (how sheltertsd canb make cats sick!!!)

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They make these available afterwards as videos: http://www.maddiesfund.org/Resource_Library/Maddies_Video_Library/Shelter_Medicine_Videos.html On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Will they ahve something in print for those of us who cannot go to this? Would like to

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
What pound was this? That's one of the only good things about the pounds around here is that they don't test for FIV/Felv, so then they don't kill for it. Of course, I think they should test, and still not kill for it. These are the open-admission No Kill (saving 90%+) shelters in the U.S.:

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
by the local municipality. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Cc:* Alev Durmus alev_dur...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:19 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
shelter killing FeLV+ cat According to her email it wasn't a pound, it was a so-called no-kill shelter. Pounds are usually owned by the local municipality. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, and some have even gone so far as to define ``adoptable'' as those for which they have cages! Outta space, outta luck. As Christine probably knows, there are over 200 cities/towns that are now No Kill. As for No Kill places being hard to find, at least someone is looking for them. In

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Los Angeles. Neither the city not the county pounds test. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.comwrote: around here doesn't say where you are?? *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Although that could be a good warning shot, they may just ignore you and not doing anything. The way to change things is to go to, say, the city council, or whomever hired them, and tell them you do not like what this pound is doing. Whatever you do, act professional. Dress professionally and

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:07 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat Yes, and some have even

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Actually, a lot of ferals live on/supplement with insects. We don't have water bugs inside here, but I've seen them around, so the cats must be eating them.(BTW, just read that insects are the healthiest meat humans can eat, as they are low-fat and animal fat is hard on humans.) On Sat,

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I spend half again that much.However, it's not a numbers game, it's what you can handle. I know of someone who has 40 colonies in three cities. She gets up at 2:30 a.m. each morning to do half each day, and then goes to work full time. (BTW, she spends $1000/month on mostly kibble.) Do

[Felvtalk] Fwd: The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Sending again. Gmail makes it difficult to trim posts, as it doesn't show everything. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Thursday, October 11

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Remember, rabbits don't produce Taurine the way cats don't, so if you feed rabbits again, add Taurine. Cats died in studies where they were only fed rabbit. I have forgotten to get meat out of the freezer, but put it in a plastic bag and float it in cold water. That defrosts it really

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff has been taken out for human consumption). By-products contain much less nutrition and are often indigestible. Note that cats also get

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, searing the raw meat is a good way to get the smell factor up. I had one cat that took six months to get off kibble and onto raw. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote: I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago. She wouldn't touch

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Mailing list

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Islay, you can do that yourself. Click on the second link below and it will take you to the page where you can manage your subscription. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Islay Mulcahy saarahstem...@gmail.comwrote: Please remove my name and address from your mailing list. Thank you. --

Re: [Felvtalk] Ta ta for now

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They're still selling the from-China chicken breast doggie treats that killed/sickened lots of animals, only because the FDA can't figure out what's wrong with them. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Thanks, just spread the word on it, post on FB, etc. – I did.

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard

Re: [Felvtalk] Hartz

2012-10-08 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Too bad their FB page doesn't allow comments. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.comwrote: I know this sounds minor, but their cat litter ( I bought it in my small town because I'm 30 miles from a Walmart, and was in desperate need), anyway, their cat litter

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Just note that with cats, who lack the liver enzyme to process toxins the way humans and doggies can, the toxic buildup is over time. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been using Revolution on my 13 house rescues for a yr now with no problems. Age ranges

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
it as sufficient. The vets make money on the vaccinations every year. Why should they stop a good cash cow (or cat)? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
. On 10-06, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: Also, I'm sure you know that 1-year and 3-year rabies vax are the same contents with different labels. Â And that experiments have shown the rabies vax lasts at least 7 years, if not for life

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You can also just vax for Panleuk only. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mine were not symptomatic at the time they got the FVRCP. They became symptomatic immediately afterward. If there is a huge risk of getting panleukopenis (sp?) You might want to take

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I wonder if you should try to get a tubal ligation instead, as a recent study indicates that longevity is tied to keeping the ovaries: http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html I'd avoid the vaxes, as the immune system is already wonked. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Maryam Ulomi

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Can you get a titer instead of vaxing for rabies each (three) year(s) or does your law not allow that? Also, I'm sure you know that 1-year and 3-year rabies vax are the same contents with different labels. And that experiments have shown the rabies vax lasts at least 7 years, if not for life.

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm not a big fan of spot-on flea meds, either, as it only makes scientific sense that some will survive and be resistant to the poison (as with bacteria and abx). I've only had to use them (Advantage, which my vet said is the safest for cats, but your mileage may vary) once when we had a flea

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION POINT. THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE. NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT. VET

Re: [Felvtalk] SuzieQ (was President)

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Either try a serum from Dr. Chachoua or give pain meds, if they would help. Is it in her lungs? If fluid is building up around them from the cancer, then have them tapped often enough so she is not in respiratory distress. Cats really do not handle that well. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:14 AM,

Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

2012-10-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Also: http://www.*pawproject*.*org*/ http://www.pawproject.org/ Technically, it's like getting your fingers cut off at the first knuckle, except that all that cats have for fingers are their claws. So it's really like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) cut off, so you can't pick up

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:32 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting ** ** Does this happen with all species? ** ** I think the best thing to do

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The Jains eat only things that fall from the plants, so the plants don't get killed. After I read this, I quit eating root veggies. On the other hand, they do not believe in keeping pets, much along the lines of PeTA, except they don't kill them. Have you seen this book? It may be a key to

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:12 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting ** ** Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species will level off at the carrying capacity (food, shelter) of the habitat, despite predation (of any sort). This is why if you want to reduce a species' population, you have to sterilize and return, so the sterilized ones take

Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet

2012-09-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Purportedly egg yolk lethicin dissolves hairballs, but I've not tried it. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:40 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My guys are not too crazy about Royal Canindry or canned SD. They do like Royal Cannin Extreme Hairball dry. I don't feed it as food, but as a treat. It

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Not only are corn, wheat, and soy not cat food (they can't digest veggies very well, much less grains, which can give them diabetes and IBD), but unless the corn and soy are organic, they are most likely GMO, and soy can give cats Hyperthyroidism (I learned this the hard way on a 7-month-old who

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
a vegetarian, they don't get leftovers like hamburger and chicken. So they eat my corn and tofu. Weird world. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Not only are corn, wheat, and soy not cat food (they can't digest veggies very well, much less

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Not only are corn, wheat

Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Check out Dr. Deva Khalsa, author of The Natural Dog. I don't recommend her for homeopathics, but she is very up on research and does telephone consultations. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:23 PM, longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: :( my other dachshund is on Royal Canine Hepatic for her micro

Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, I use baby food (without onions and garlic, of course). Not the best, but it goes through a syringe! On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: People always believe that if something is expensive, it MUSDT be good! Well, it's the exact opposite. The only one

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Nutro is pretty awful stuff, too. The best canned food out there is Merrick Before Grain, and even that has carageenan in it. You may also have to add some pumpkin/veggies (5%). It's unknown if it's balanced in terms of Phos:Ca, as the company isn't very forthcoming. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Of what did the big kitty die? I've heard of cats living beyond 30 years, and often wonder if we fed them correctly that they wouldn't routinely live to at least somewhere between 20 and 30 years. Some people think cats just have weak kidneys, but if they did, their species wouldn't have

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
See http://holisticat.com/flutd.html That site also has diet recipes, or you could write me for mine (which is a chicken version much like found on other sites). Keep track of the urine pH (using a SmartCat litterbox?). I found that Vitamin C didn't help much getting the acidity up, but

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
and capsules of cranberry extract for this type of situation. Not sure cats and cranberries would get along very well but you might google that also. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
[mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites?

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Isn't it impossible to diagnose FIP? On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Oh, no – poor baby! I am so sorry! The vet couldn’t think of trying anything else? I also found that when they don’t respond to antibiotics, toxoplasmosis may be present, and it

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis Holistic Stomatitis Protocol Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones. These the supplements we've been using

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Were you doing steroids all through this process? On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote: Snowy had three separate procedures -- the first to extract teeth, then when that did not solve the problem she had the first laser treatment, and then she went back

Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FeLV+ Kitten

2012-08-23 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Lee, would you like me to send you my holistic stomatitis protocol? It worked on both my cats (not Felv+, though), one of which had it so bad that blood spurted out his mouth whenever he opened it. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: A false negative is

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-23 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Holistic Stomatitis Protocol Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones. These the supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't optional. What seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics along with Coptis Purge Fire. You may have to

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-23 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
to use on cats who would allow me to do this!* *Natalie =^..^=* * * *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-21 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Actually, the good news is that the first two years are purportedly analogous to our becoming adults, e.g., ~24, so they lived the best years of their lives. Fun calculator here: http://www.purina.co.uk/content/your-cat/understanding-your-cat/as-your-cat-ages/your-cat%27s-age-in-human-years On

Re: [Felvtalk] off topic - - removing kitten's eye

2012-07-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Lorrie, Does it work to give your Herpes kitty more Lysine per day? It did with mine. Kathy On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Briefly I chose to foster 3 kittens with significant conjunctivitis from the local pound about 2 weeks and 2 days ago.

Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-30 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
is really easy to forget, actually, but really wonderful to be able to use for all being a FEDERAL STATUTE, and there are a lot of rescuers in here. ~Kat~ -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date

Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
~ -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:21:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters What do you mean by ``rules''? Laws? If they are not in compliance with laws, then turn them

[Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I trimmed this so maybe it will go through. . . -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat shelters To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org One approach you can take with the bosses (usually

Re: [Felvtalk] RenAvast for cats

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Also check out this page: http://www.holisticat.com/flutd.html Renavast is supplements (amino acids, mostly), not a drug, so if you're going the natural way, you may as well check out the above. People around here (Los Angeles) have had really good results. One of my vets endorses it. The

Re: [Felvtalk] RenAvast for cats

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You get it via mail from Torrance, CA. http://www.renavast.com/order-now It costs around 50 cents/cap and comes in 60 capsule bottles. Are you free feeding the ferals (outside?)? When I consulted with someone about giving it to my colonies (because people feed them kibble and some are getting

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
in compliance. I think that ignorance is our worst enemy. Even when we get good ordinances, they don't work because no one knows about them. -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:28

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
to purchase the permit. Nasty little tricks. People who have received a citation in the past for having over the permissible limit of cats/dogs are prohibited from purchasing the permit. More nonsense. From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply

2012-05-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
There's no tests for FIP, but you can try nosodes, or calling Dr. Deva Khalsa (purportedly a vet who can cure FIP). Try joining WholeCatHealth for more information. They've been discussing the Winn Foundation FIP studies. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Lynda Wilson

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again

2012-04-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Got it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:43 PM, James G Wilson phaed...@charter.netwrote: Hey all, Let me know if you get this message. I think there are still some problems with the list. Haven't received any mail since the host said they fixed the problem. Sorry for the inconvenience. Best.

Re: [Felvtalk] NYC: pathetic maybe-FeLV needs foster/adopter

2012-04-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If you search for No Kill in Facebook, you'll get a lot of organizations, both (inter)national, by state, and by town. In particular, look at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/No-Kill-Coalition-Crossposting/220666988020410 You can also search for Crossposter and get a lot of other pages for

Re: [Felvtalk] NYC: pathetic maybe-FeLV needs foster/adopter

2012-04-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Go for it! ;-) You probably need to include transport and fostering in your system. Fostering is super important in getting animals out of the pounds. If anyone has any suggestions for how an iPhone app to get fosters should function, let me know! On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Terri

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment

2012-04-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The Chinese Medicine theory my holistic vet had was that if abx helped (which they seemed to with my cats, and apparently with others'), then that was cooling the fire coming from the stomach. So, that's why the Coptis Purge Fire helped, after initially getting the heat coming from the stomach

Re: [Felvtalk] Bio-Sponge

2012-04-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Natalie and Beth, Did either of you try my holistic stomatitis protocol? It worked on both my cats, and the dental tech called it a miracle. Also, digestive enzymes and unspiced cooked pumpkin is what cured my long-term diarrhea kits. Hope this helps. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM,

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28

2012-03-22 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Not quite the same format as Yahoo, but there are archives: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/ http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/ On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Pamela Bell rescuethec...@yahoo.comwrote: Kitty with Jaundice The

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2012-02-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
While I did not have as good of an experience of Dr. Khalsa as have others, note that these blogs could be biased, too. Even allopathic doctors can be criticized by such, sometimes for purely for political/economic reasons. Often, you have to follow the money. I know of an animal who had

Re: [Felvtalk] Black salve

2012-02-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Thanks for clarifying that there are different forms out there. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:37 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: I beg to differ; I have seen the results of this original formula. This is NOT the black salve that you read about; it's nothing like it. It's also not a lot of

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