[Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

2013-05-10 Thread Marta Gasper
Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and 
some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our 
vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his 
uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best 
hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down 
his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that 
bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal 
infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat 
again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other 
problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it 
though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a 
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo 
won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how 
much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat 
is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer 
he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anemic Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-09 Thread Marta Gasper
To all..I just got and reread my post..quite negative I apologize..I do rescue 
and only sups I can give are donated so ussualy we don't go the extra 
mile(don't euthanize until they lose quality of life either, I just mean do the 
basic FeLV protocol treat) and am depressed some b/c I had another dx and 
possible a whole litter plus two..all from one that was infected as a baby and 
I didn't know until it was time for neutering, he crashed the week before app 
and died a few days later. By then he had exposed most of the fosters, one 
wasn't vaccinated and another that was vet thinks he got infected in the window 
between exposure and inmunization..sigh but thats rescue I know.
Anyways do supplement as much as you can afford, transfusions and all. I was 
speaking from personal experience.
M

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From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anemic Leukemia Positive Cat


There are a couple of issues with Desi; at first glance I'd say he has FIP but 
if the vet felt a mass that could be a reason why his belly is large but you 
can fill his backbone; fluid around a tumor.
A cat that is FeLV+ will have anemia at some point, pernicious anemia, non 
regeranative. It can be delayed with transfusions but the outcome is the same.
M


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From: Christy Buchin cstet...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anemic Leukemia Positive Cat


We did a blood transfusion on our cat  started him on Prednisone. He also went 
on LTCI injections. 

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:


I am fostering one of my former colony cats.  My friend is now feeding the 
colony, which was hers to begin with but since I moved out of the county and 
live 35 miles away, she has had to take back the care of the 7 colonies with 
which I was helping her.


Desi, the cat I am now fostering has lost a lot of weight.  My friend took him 
to the vet and the cat has tested positive for FeLv.  His PCV test is at 10 
and the vet doesn't hold out much hope for long term survival.  In addition, 
the vet felt a small mass near the cat's liver.  However, what's puzzling is 
that Desi is still eating, still grooming, his fur is shiny like a healthy 
cat.  His eyes were clear and bright last night but had a little gunk on one 
cheek this morning.  But they are still wide and bright and he doesn't seem to 
be in any discomfort or pain.  One thing though is that he's weak.  He walks 
slowly and sits down after a few steps but then he gets up, rubs against me 
and then sits again. His belly is large but i can feel his backbone when I 
stroke him.  When I knew him as a street cat, he was plump and active and 
mischievous. I have known him since he was a half grown kitten. He was one of 
many black cats born to a black feral
 mom cat in the colony but he was friendly to me and my rescue partner.  When 
we got them neutered, we did not test them for anything because we don't have 
money for that.  Desi is about 4 years old.  The colony hangs out at an office 
park. 



I'm wondering if there's any way short of a transfusion to deal with his 
anemia.  I'm giving him Nutra Ved vitamins daily, .5 cc. twice a day.  I can't 
afford the transfusion and with a leukemia positive cat I don't feel it would 
be wise or that any vet would be willing to do that.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Anemic Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-08 Thread Marta Gasper
There are a couple of issues with Desi; at first glance I'd say he has FIP but 
if the vet felt a mass that could be a reason why his belly is large but you 
can fill his backbone; fluid around a tumor.
A cat that is FeLV+ will have anemia at some point, pernicious anemia, non 
regeranative. It can be delayed with transfusions but the outcome is the same.
M


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From: Christy Buchin cstet...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anemic Leukemia Positive Cat


We did a blood transfusion on our cat  started him on Prednisone. He also went 
on LTCI injections. 

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:


I am fostering one of my former colony cats.  My friend is now feeding the 
colony, which was hers to begin with but since I moved out of the county and 
live 35 miles away, she has had to take back the care of the 7 colonies with 
which I was helping her.


Desi, the cat I am now fostering has lost a lot of weight.  My friend took him 
to the vet and the cat has tested positive for FeLv.  His PCV test is at 10 
and the vet doesn't hold out much hope for long term survival.  In addition, 
the vet felt a small mass near the cat's liver.  However, what's puzzling is 
that Desi is still eating, still grooming, his fur is shiny like a healthy 
cat.  His eyes were clear and bright last night but had a little gunk on one 
cheek this morning.  But they are still wide and bright and he doesn't seem to 
be in any discomfort or pain.  One thing though is that he's weak.  He walks 
slowly and sits down after a few steps but then he gets up, rubs against me 
and then sits again. His belly is large but i can feel his backbone when I 
stroke him.  When I knew him as a street cat, he was plump and active and 
mischievous. I have known him since he was a half grown kitten. He was one of 
many black cats born to a black feral
 mom cat in the colony but he was friendly to me and my rescue partner.  When 
we got them neutered, we did not test them for anything because we don't have 
money for that.  Desi is about 4 years old.  The colony hangs out at an office 
park. 



I'm wondering if there's any way short of a transfusion to deal with his 
anemia.  I'm giving him Nutra Ved vitamins daily, .5 cc. twice a day.  I can't 
afford the transfusion and with a leukemia positive cat I don't feel it would 
be wise or that any vet would be willing to do that.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites?

2012-08-26 Thread Marta Gasper
I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other conditions. 
Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it for protein 
content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we lost two 
kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from the first 
one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was 
FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had 
pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his sister also got 
a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 

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From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?


My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell me 
it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic - Facebook perversion - cats; STOP them!

2012-07-01 Thread Marta Gasper
I know. I think it is something we the users might not be able to do anything 
about b/c   if poster comply with FB rules, it goes. We'll just 've to stay 
away from it  like we stay away from Internet porn, gore and other that as sick 
as it might be it abides by certain requirements. 
I think that we're seeing here is how some cultures see us by their moral 
tenments; the sick, perverted/libertarian West because we allow women and 
ment to sit side by side on sports events, etc, etc
I signed but not sure that page will be removed.
Marta

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Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic - Facebook perversion - cats; STOP them!


THE SICK BASTARDS
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cat-Recipe-Exchange-Page/257267050986409
Everyone’s been trying to get this off Facebook – but it seems that they are 
quite within their parameters to allow this garbage!
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats

2012-06-01 Thread Marta Gasper
They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. 
 
I always pipe up when somebody says that cats sit in cages at shelter/in jail, 
etc..well that is true of kill shelters and some no-kills. And BTW not all open 
policy shelters put the cat in the cage and leave it there.
 
No-kills specially know very well that an animal can't live in a cage. I don't 
work at a shelter but am close friends with a nk and several HS's. Cats don't 
do well in cages for an extended period of time. While medicating and being 
socialized, acclimated and other changes, yes, they have to be.
But it is dangerous actually to hold animals in cages b/c of stress which leads 
to disease. They know that or should know it.
Depending on room cats are taken out of the cages and let roam in rooms, 
ussualy are in for the night. At the no-kill the only cats in cages are sick 
ones or baby kittens. Even fractious cats they separate in groups in small 
rooms. For instance one year ago the nk shelter took one of my rescue cats, she 
was tame but has a very short fuse. She was in a cage during quarantine(10 
days) and that was it. Afterwards shared a room with one cat she could bear, 
doesn't like much other cats.
She'd swipe at people too so she needed an understanding owner, finally last 
week that family showed up and she was adopted.
In your situation I'd ask a  no-kill shelter, true most are full but you never 
know. Unless you wish to keep all the cats, which probably for them is the best 
alternative. Where are you at?
Marta
 
 
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I was going to suggest a ramp, but alas, the coons could also use it.  

RE:  taking them to a no kill shelter, if it is like the ones around here, they 
are not able to take on any more dogs or cats.  Everyone who has lost ajob, 
home and has to move in with relatives, brings their animals to the shelter.  
You are right, they would have to spend some time there especially if they are 
not socialized.  That takes time and that means time in cages.  I took 2 from 
P.A.L.S..  I had gone to see about 1 cat and ended up with both Lil Bit and 
Casey.  They had been in an 8 x 10 cage with about 6 or 8 other cats for over a 
year.  Lil Bit is just now moving around the house because she is so small 
(6lbs) and timid and Casey is getting used to NOT being allowed to bully 
everyone.  I just wish people would bring a short letter giving information 
about their pets so the adopter would understand why they are the way they 
are.  Often they are misunderstood and end up back at the shelter because 
people do not have the patience to try
 to understand them


 dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for 
 the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful and quite healthy 
 looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food.  At least 3 of them 
 are very friendly and the others are coming around, too.  Anyone have any 
 input about how to place these cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even 
 if it's no kill.  They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god 
 knows how long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my 
 husband.  We can never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are your 
 experiences?  Dotty



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Re: [Felvtalk] Watch for this person In Wharton, El Campo, Richmond/Rosenberg, Sugar Land

2012-05-27 Thread Marta Gasper
Well, I don't know about the scam but about the cat; if you don't want her you 
could call a rescue. What type of test did they do? I'd test with IFA tho the 
in house is accurate for FeLV, or can be. I can't relate much to the situation 
you are decribing b/c I live in Nebraska where temperatures can be extreme so 
an outside pen is only for nice days(I've one + other cats in pens outside but 
have to run them back in when weather turns).
I'm not a breeder so wouldn't know whats usual in this cases. I'm in the 
Nebraska rescuers group and can add 'Jennifer' to the DNA(do no adopt specially 
but don't deal with too)
As for the Bengal girl, if it were me I'd keep her inside separate from others 
and retest. But if you don't want her you should give her up to a rescue group 
or a no-kill shelter.
Are you in Facebook? I'm asking b/c it'd be useful to breeders to pass along 
this info..much luck, so sorry this happened.
Marta

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From: Charles Adams texasgoldbu...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:41 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Watch for this person In Wharton, El Campo, 
Richmond/Rosenberg, Sugar Land


Hello Everyone,

     It's been about 3 weeks now and still trying to clean up a very bad 
mistake. Here's my story! I have a beautiful male Bengal Cat name Buddy Buck 
who is registered and I have papers and pedigree back 8 generations. I want to 
breed him and just have had no luck finding a cat I could afford. I went into 
my local vet's office which happens to be my vet as well and asked if they knew 
anyone who possibly had a female Bengal cat that I could breed my cat with. The 
lady at the front desk told me she did and gave me the girl's first name and 
phone number. All I had was the name Jennifer. I called and to my surprise she 
just happened to have a 9 month old Snow Marble Bengal. I told her I was very 
interested and wanted to see the cat.
     She didn't come by that night but did call the next day and I gave her 
directions to my house. I showed her my male who by the way is behind locked 
doors and current on all of his shots. I let her know my intentions was to 
breed the two cats. She had two cats in a carrier and showed my what I was told 
was the mother and daughter. The mother was beautiful but a little thin but had 
excellent markings. Then out came the cat I was supposed to be buying. This cat 
was eye knocking beautiful and had excellent markings as well plus beautiful 
blue eyes. I knew right there I wanted the cat. I told her I was looking to 
breed out my male and we agreed to let her breed two times with my male and I 
gave her $300.00. We spoke a bit more and I was just so happy to have just made 
a deal on such a beautiful cat.
     As we spoke I gave her the money and I asked for the shot records. She 
told me she would go by the vet's and pick up a copy and drop it off. I called 
her later and asked what kind of food she had been feeding and she told me back 
to the wild. I went by to pick up some. I got home and there were not shot 
records dropped off as she told me she would. I called and no answer. I sent 
over a text and again no answer. I sat down to fill out the paper work and then 
I was shocked. I noticed the paperwork was for a cat 2 years old. I called 
again and text and again no reply. This went on for another day and a half then 
I sent over a text message telling her the next call was going to be to the 
Sheriff's Office. This time I got a reply telling me to chill her daughter had 
got into an accident. Call me crazy but her daughter was about 4 or 5 years old 
and she was only 24 so I knew something was not right.
     I called the Vet and made an appointment for Saturday morning. I took her 
in. This cat had been staying indoors in a cage and my male is outside in his 
pen. I got back horrible news. The cat came back FeLV positive. I sent over a 
text message informing this little piece of trash of the outcome and no 
response. I waited 15 minutes and sent another message informing her I wanted 
another cat tested or my money back but preferred another cat. Again no 
response. I called the Sheriff's office and turned her in. I was knocked down 
to hear was I was told. I was not the first person to complain on her. I looked 
around and found another woman who had purchased a set of blue great danes and 
the both had Parvo and were very sick. I found another person and she had 
bought a puppy that had died after a few day. I was told to run her name on 
rippedoff.com and I did. I called the Animal Shelter in El Campo, Texas and 
they knew of her by the game. I called the
 SPCA and they knew she had been turned in multiple times for selling sick 
animals.
     I went back to the Vet and asked for her address and they couldn't give it 
to me. I found that no one I spoke with had it. I started digging around 
getting bits and pieces of information and was getting close to 

Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-22 Thread Marta Gasper
I had a cat that wasted away, he was FIV+..we did everything to keep him 
confortable and on his last days when he was alert I'd bundle him up(tho it was 
Aug, he was literally skin and bones) and take him outside to scracht his fav 
tree, he did all entus but got tired quickly and he'd take a long nap. I also 
took him to the window to watch the birds outside, had to hold him b/c he 
couldn't walk well and held him near a dripping faucet b/c he loved it..he was 
indoors only but when he was well he went out in a patio enclosure and scracht 
everything in sight, including a tree branch that went in the enclosure.
He ate well too. I fed him kitten food both canned and dry, that he ate by 
himself and syringe fed Nutrical, sugar water, rubbed Karo on his gums, 
anything that would give him energy.
When he became unresponsive we thought it was time and he died just before he 
was injected, he had had a seizure on the ride to the vet and another while we 
waited. I don't think he suffered  thats why I let him live a bit longer but 
like I said once it was apparent he'd lost all quality of life we decided to 
help him along.
It was very hard on us though seeing him deteriorate, if it was up to me I'd 
have put him down earlier but my husband won't put down a pet unless it is 
suffering. I won't either but sometimes I see no point on keeping them tho I'm 
glad for the time with had with this kitty.
M 

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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

I am so sorry for your loss of Orlando. I do rescue work and I have
several FelV cats, and one of my favorites is a long haired black
male who tested positive several months ago.  He is not just wasting
away.  He is not anemic, has no tumors, but is just getting thinner
and thinner. Since he shows no symptoms there is nothing the vet can
do to buy him a bit more time, and I know he won't be with me for
long. He doesn't appear to be in any pain, he is just weak, thin and
he no longer grooms himself, but he is still eating.  I've lost many
FelV cats, but most had either tumors or became anemic and crashed. 
Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think
I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and
safe?  I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so
frightening for cats to go to the vet.  I would appreciate your
thoughts.

Lorrie

On 05-21, Frank  Sue
Koren wrote:
    It  has  been  one  week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last
    time.  His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he
    had  stopped  eating.  He  was  such a wonderful cat, my loving flame
    point  Siamese boy.  The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room
    he  reached  up  and  gave me a hug.  From then on he was my boy and I
    can't  believe  he  is  gone  and  I  will never see him again in this
    world.  He  was  about  10 when I adopted him and that was four years
    ago.  He  would  come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I
    was  working  on  the  computer.  If  I  got up at night to go to the
    bathroom  he would accompany me.  Always.  I guess that was how I knew
    it  was  time.  On  the  last night he didn't do that.  He will be SO
    missed.  I hate hate hate this disease.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats

2012-05-22 Thread Marta Gasper
Well.. I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question(not just 
yours most of us came accross it at some point)..basically if negative cats 
don't come into contact with positives they won't get infected. Also infection 
results from long time exposure, ie if a negative licks a postive dish once in 
a blue moon he won't get infected, however if he does clean the + plate every 
day, he could.
If a positive grooms a negative once the negative won't get it but if he does 
it everyday or several times a day he could, same as for sharing beds, 
litterboxes, etc.
 I recently read on internet that infection thru aerosol/ airborne virus is 
rare in cats but common in dogs.., I don't know abt it. While the virus 
live for a few hrs out of the host if a - cat happens to absorb a + sneeze 
right after the + sneezed he could be infected.
I've two FeLV+ one lives in a room by himself though during the day I put him 
in a LG crate in the garage for a change, he loves it.
The other one is in a crate in another room(reason for crate is that it is the 
basement and other cats are around, however he doesn't sneeze so I'm not 
concerned somebody that just happens to pass by could get a droplet or two., 
The first one does have a chronic sinus infection so he sneezes quite a bit.
I keep a litter in another room, young and senior are most vulnerable to 
infection.
All the cats except the new litter are vaccinated.
M

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From: Jo gypsyj...@aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve  FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats

Is mixing like this recommended?  In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl
who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl
who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who
both tested negative and are vaccinated.  I recently lost my beautiful
2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn
as much as possible about it.  The older cats do not really interact with
the younger ones.  I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm
taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done.  Thank you
in advance for all your help.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Gulliver Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-23 Thread Marta Gasper
Oh Sherry,  my condolences..Gully was so lucky to have lived with you and 
shared the love
Marta
 
 
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From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:37 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Gulliver Please add to the CLS :(

Heaven  received another former Sids kid today Gully was lucky enough to of 
had a loving home for over a year with a great catmom... He was a sweet 
beautiful fluffy boylove you Gully Gully..
Sherry
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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Precious to the CLS.

2012-03-19 Thread Marta Gasper
So sorry Dawne..she had the best life with you
Marta

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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Precious to the CLS.


I am so sorry, Dawne!
Natalie
 
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Dawne Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Precious to the CLS.
 
Good morning,

Precious gave up her battle with FELV on Saturday. She was

diagnosed two and a half years ago and was a trooper all the

way. Please add her to the CLS.  Thank you. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger - new kitten

2012-03-18 Thread Marta Gasper
Yes a cat can test + for both. FIV is not transmitted through bowls, bedding 
etc but through deep bites. FeLV is more contagious but just wash bowls etc. 
Don't have to wait six months
Marta

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger - new kitten

FIV I wouldn't worry about ar all. With FeLV it doesnt live long outside body. 
Just wash everything as you would with any new kitry.

pandie...@aol.com wrote:

i'm so confused.  they said my cat tested positive for both FIV and  felv
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2012 10:41:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
pandie...@aol.com writes:

the same with felv?
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2012 8:07:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
create_me_...@yahoo.com writes:

You  shouldm't need to do anything special. You can wash bowls  bedding, 
but  it really isn' that big a deal. Its not like distemper which lives for  
years
Congratulations on your new  baby!
Beth

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Ginger: we  want to introduce a 12 week old kitty to our home. What 
precautions should  we take since my beloved Ginger kitty died of feline 
leukemia? 
Please help!  Marinda 
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  1. Scarpetta and Foley  Please Add  to the CLS  :( :( (Sherry DeHaan)
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So yesterday one of our  former Sids kids Scarpetta had to be let gohe 
was one sweet boy...I  remember the first time meeting himI looked at 
him, I told him boy you  sure are an ugly kittyhe looked at me with his 
loving beautiful eyes?and  gave the sweetest yet strangest meowand 
instantly he became one of the  most beautiful cats I had the honor to know 
and 
love...he had a wonderful  home for about the last 6 months with our wonderful 
volunteer Marcia...she  has taken home several extra special needs Sids 
kids and has lost them  within this last year...bless her warm heart for 
taking 
home some of the  most wonderful cats
?
Foley,oh Foley...he went home almost  a year ago with Julie another 
awesome kind hearted lady that also has taken  home many special Sids kids and 
have lost so many too recently...well this  wonderful tiger boy left this 
world 
today...my heart is broken...I was going  to go visit him and several of 
the other former Sids kids this sunday,,,but  Julie sent me a message today 
that she has to let him go...I will be getting  a clay paw print of his...he 
has a paw print in my heart as do all the  wonderful Sids kidsso much 
sadness lately. :( Bless you all...hug  your babies tight...
Sherry


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Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have  it no other way
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis

2012-03-12 Thread Marta Gasper
Oh yes..but in the rescues or just neutered, any type of stress would lower the 
inmune system so oportunistic infections like  eye infections occur.
 
Uveitis is more serious, it is a symptom not a disease. And it is very, very 
painful. The eye is reddened as irritated and it is swollen, might or no have a 
discharge. Last FeLV+ I had got uveitis in her last days when she was very ill, 
I put her down shortly after because she was in so much pain and had gone 
blind, so as for her I didn't do anything. I had a FIV+ that had uveitis on and 
off in his last month, he had other infections so was treated for that and with 
Interpheron to bring down the swelling. My cat that had glaucoma also developed 
uveitis and had to have surgery.
Like I said it is a very painful condition, I suppose Interferon can do 
something, abx would only act against infections, which she'd be prone to if 
she has FeLV..all the best to your lil' girlie
Marta

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From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:09 PM
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Aw! Poor kitty! I hate to hear of this!  I've actually had it myself. In my 
personal experience, it was painful and I was very sensitive to light. I had 
steroid drops but don't recall the name of the RX.  It sounds like you have 
enough meds to hopefully improve the redness and irritation to her eye. I wish 
I could tell you more because you are always so helpful to me.
 
Keep me posted ~ Best wishes too!!
Lynda
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Uveitis


Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)?  My FeLV kitten had a 
scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really 
red and irritated.  The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and 
redness to continue.  Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon 
Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye.


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profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
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Re: [Felvtalk] Coco Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-12 Thread Marta Gasper
I'm so sorry Sherry, she must be playing with our lil CoCo and many 
others..sending a big hug
Marta

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From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Coco Please add to the CLS :(

We just learned tonight that we lost our sweet little black girl Coco. She was 
a dainty lady with a big heartwe will miss you Coco
And my heart goes out to all of you who have lost a furry friend recently also. 
Thank you all for loving these special babies and thank you for being here for 
me...
Sherry
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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger

2012-03-11 Thread Marta Gasper
Yes, getting another kitty is not betrayal at all as others have said. I do 
rescue and some pass unfortunatly; when I rescue another I'm doing it in the 
name of the one that died. Many rescues that died are a lesson, either 
diseases, people, etc but I feel the kitty died in vain if I don't save another 
with the new knowledge I've._I agree completly it is sad hearing other people 
saying that after their late pet they won't get another one. I understand how 
they feel but I've the small thought that one of the reasons is to save 
themselves the pain of losing a pet, somehow it sounds like the pet died so 
this person won't adopt again.
Maybe I'm too judgamental(sp)..in any case when you adopt another, Ginger will 
be happy, it is never an insult to her memory.
Marta

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To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:05 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger

It's been a few weeks since we lost our ginger kitty. I am still so sad about 
my darling! Do you think I should get another kitty so soon after his death? I 
feel I would kind of betray my Ginger kitty. Could you please advice me what to 
do? Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

2012-03-11 Thread Marta Gasper
I thought it could be b/c my Inbox is always full but if most everybody has 
receive it doesn't sound like it..some programs are set to send those notices 
every so often, not sure exactly why, but I've had those before from different 
lists I'm at
M

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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR


I also received an email. I'm fairly new to the group and haven't posted as of 
yet. I didn't understand why they said the emails to me were bouncing because I 
have been receiving all of your posts on a regular basis. Anyone have a clue?


Prairie Rose



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote:

I also received that email and did not know what it meant.  I know my last 
posting was very short and posted.  I was thinking that maybe a filter was 
causing some of the emails I should have received to bounce as I often read a 
chain with emails that I didn't see. 






On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Sally Davis wrote:

Did anyone else get an email from this group that says the emails are 
bouncing? I am afraid to click on it in case it is a malicious link .

James I am still here.

Sally Davis






The real problem is feeders who do not TNR.  That's how these feral/hard 
stray colonies get out of control.  Managing these colonies means 
responsible s/n, feeding and medical treatment when needed.  

JMHO
Sharyl


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links


I know many people who do TNR and have dedicated volunteers taking care of 
them, even trapping for vet visits. Personally, I don’t like some of the 
ways that TNR cats are provided or NOT provided for.  Some groups spay cats 
and release them almost immediately, even in freezing weather (when it is a 
known fact that healing is seriously hindered) , and such consequences as 
infections, and even disembowelment due to ruptures.
Yes, one should expect cats at such a ranch to be provided with medical care!
I can’t even imagine how many people are required to seriously care for 700 
cats!
Natalie
 


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.  Fix the momma and you stop the spread of the disease in a feral colony.  
I also do TNR and manage 2 feral colonies.  The adult males and females are 
released back after recovery from their surgeries.  Males 1 day and females 
3-4 days as long as they are doing OK.   The kittens I tame and try to adopt 
out.  The only way to combat PETA is to responsibly manage these feral/hard 
stray colonies.  My oldest feral is a 7+ year old male who is only happy 
outside in his colony.  We can't take all these feral/hard strays in but we 
can give them a healthy, stress free life in their colonies once they have 
been spayed/neutered.  At least that way the population is controlled. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: caboodle ranch - other side of the story links

2012-03-08 Thread Marta Gasper
Amen, I agree 100%. It's time for the dumpers, who are virtually invisible, 
to start paying the piperwho are virtually invisible, to start paying the 
piper.
 
Amen two..there should be a way to catch them, and if possible then once that 
dumping is stopped lets see how many true hoarders_and there are_ remain.
Justice would be served that way. But it is not possible, somebody should 
invent a device to catch them..or something. We can just preach for now **don't 
dump, you are not only putting your pet(or your foundling)life in jeopardy but 
are hurting the good person behind that fence. Right now you are a peoples 
abuser even if you don't realize it and if you don't now you do. People will go 
to jail and have their lives ruined b/c of your actions and the cat/dog you 
left might even die.**
Lets grab the dumper's conscience and hardwire with that statement so they can 
hear it the rest of their lives..ppl walk away satisfied now the fur they left 
will be taken care of and they found a good solution to their problem, lets 
change that playback(and some of this people won't take the animal to a Humane 
Society because it'll be put down..Yes it can happen, but know the outcome 
from your dumping is not very different plus there's a persons reputation and 
all the animals she tried so hard so to save at stake now too..deal with 
it!!(I've seen that and it males so angry)
Marta
 
 
 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

2012-03-08 Thread Marta Gasper
FeLV cats should not be returned to colonies, boys or girls. FeLV is too easily 
contracted. Besides we don't make them any favors by releasing them in the 
wild. IMO a FELV+ feral should be either euthanized or sanctuaried away from 
others.
Now a FIV+ is a different story, as long as the cat is healthy I return 
neutered fivers, besides the snap for FIV gives false results.
Many will differ with my opinion but I've seen just one cat infect 27 others in 
a household while I've mixed FIV+ for years w/o problems.
Marta

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR


If you fix a positive mom  put her back in a colony you are spreading FeLV. It 
does not just spread by her having babies, It will spread by her sharing water 
with the other cats.

Beth

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 3:36 AM
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I know others have also responded Natalie about TNR.  TNR is one of the best 
ways of fighting the spread of FeLV.  In my experience a positive momma will 
have positive kittens.  Fix the momma and you stop the spread of the disease in 
a feral colony.  I also do TNR and manage 2 feral colonies.  The adult males 
and females are released back after recovery from their surgeries.  Males 1 day 
and females 3-4 days as long as they are doing OK.   The kittens I tame and try 
to adopt out.  The only way to combat PETA is to responsibly manage these 
feral/hard stray colonies.  My oldest feral is a 7+ year old male who is only 
happy outside in his colony.  We can't take all these feral/hard strays in but 
we can give them a healthy, stress free life in their colonies once they have 
been spayed/neutered.  At least that way the population is controlled. 
 
The real problem is feeders who do not TNR.  That's how these feral/hard stray 
colonies get out of control.  Managing these colonies means responsible s/n, 
feeding and medical treatment when needed.  
 
JMHO
Sharyl

From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
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Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM
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I know many people who do TNR and have dedicated volunteers taking care of 
them, even trapping for vet visits. Personally, I don’t like some of the ways 
that TNR cats are provided or NOT provided for.  Some groups spay cats and 
release them almost immediately, even in freezing weather (when it is a known 
fact that healing is seriously hindered) , and such consequences as infections, 
and even disembowelment due to ruptures.
Yes, one should expect cats at such a ranch to be provided with medical care!
I can’t even imagine how many people are required to seriously care for 700 
cats!
Natalie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links

2012-03-06 Thread Marta Gasper
consider how many times TNR's put domestic cats back on the street if there 
were feeders? (I'm not one of them, but consider that, before condemning the 
guy.)
 
You mean the policy of returning cats to a feral colony if the colony has a 
feeder?..how that fits into this situation? TNR is for ferals not housecats.
Though in some cases_such as mine I trap cats on the loose, ferals or not. If 
feral they go to a feral colony, if not I try to find owner, education goes so 
far, most people will want to keep the cat in/out but at least the cat is 
neutered now and won't be making more. If possible I take in the cat, list as 
found and if it is not claimed I put him up for adoption_taking in all tame 
cats is just not possible but I do try to bring in the declaweds and kittens._ 
I don't just abandon the cat out there, I make sure it has shelter and a feeder.
I know very well this is considered cruel by a sector of the pop and that's ok, 
we all have a right to our opinion. 
 
But I don't understand how this fits with Caboodle, you mean because he had all 
these cats roaming the property and they weren't taken care of? If so I would 
say that since he said Caboodle was a sanctuary that implies the cats are to be 
taken care of, if sick taken to a vet etc._Very different from a feral colony 
where the intentions are the same but  nobody wants a colony of sick cats and 
yet there are ferals that will die rather than walk in a trap; I know I had one 
of these. We tried for half a year to trap him and in his last months it was 
evident that he would have had to be euthanized. We just could not, and one day 
we found him dead. It happens often and makes caretakers feel awful.
 
A sanctuary OTOH is expected to treat each and every cat. A sanctuary is not 
just a place to leave a pet, walk away and forget all about it. That is why a 
person is expected to fund the cat care. Granted some of the cats could have 
been dumped at the place and no money to support them. But it wasn't the 
majority, and if CG couldn't afford them did he ask rescues to take them? I 
don't know that, I can't side with either story but just wanted to comment on 
that remark abt TNR and how it fit with the CR situation, I think it doesn't.
Marta
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Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in lungs

2012-03-04 Thread Marta Gasper
Time is of the essence here, she's not getting enough oxygen if she's turning 
blue so brain damage is a real possibility. Feral (and if she was born feral 
from feral mom but you took her in before she was 4 months, even if she didn't 
tame she's still less feral than a true feral, I know I've 5 of those)or not bd 
will happen, specially at 13 yrs old. I had both a housecat and a feral die in 
a week with that condition b/c we couldn't reverse the pneumonitis quick 
enough, the feral was FeLV+ but the tame was just fine and she was abt 12.
Fluid in the lungs is just not uncofortable, it is very painful as she 
struggles to breath, I know the last kitten I had that got pneumonia moaned 
with every breath. The other cats were semi conscious so don't think they felt 
much. 
My point is that stress here can't make much difference in outcome..you'll do 
whats best for her but don't let her suffer
Marta

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Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in 
lungs


My vet is and his assistant  have become expert in dealing with feral cats by 
using towels/blankets to wrap and rewrap as needed for examinations.  I have 
also learned this in dealing with feral cats.  You could also get some Bach 
Flower Remedy – RESCUE, use it in the cat‘s water, you can put it onto the 
cat’s gums, or even on the skin inside the ear or on the forehead….every little 
bit helps.  Use some Feliway spray inside the carrier (one spray of it about 
one hour before using the carrier (it’s quite potent) – all that should calm 
the cat.
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 6:19 PM
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lungs
 
Talk to a holist vet (MHO).  Kitty and Dixie, feral similar to yours, did 
wonderfully with the care of both a holistic vet and a regular vet.  I know, I 
am blessed to have both and they respect each other.  Also, if possible, find 
another regular vet.  Killing a cat without symptoms  and true pain (not 
discomfort) is beyond me.  I have dealt with ferals a really long time.  In 
fact, every cat who has moved into my home or chosen to live where I can 
provide some comforts (food, outdoor shelter) has been feral.  They are the 
smartest of the smart (again MHO) and will let you know exactly what they want. 
 
On Mar 3, 2012, at 5:09 PM, dppl dppl wrote:


 Melinda, thanks for taking the time to respond so quickly.
My fear is, if this vet didn't want to draw blood since she
said cat's gums started turning blue, how will she 
endure further testing?  How much stress
should I put her through? She was born to a feral cat, I have had her over 
13 years she is tame for me, but freaks out when i try to put her in carrier .
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with cruelty

2012-03-01 Thread Marta Gasper
Caboodle was one of my FB friends..I thought/read someplace there was help at 
CR. No way one person can cope with that many..many times hoarders do fool the 
authorities and the public, I've seen it hapen..lets face it; we, even if all 
we do is take care of the animals, have more complicated lives than a pet. So 
at any time something can go wrong, financially, personally, healthwise..and 
that is other people should take charge.
Having the land and best intentions is a great start but much more is needed.
I do rescue, have a license and am now starting the paperwork to be non-profit, 
all this while I learnt that is what has to come first, then one can start 
looking for volunteers and plan ahead, ie ten years from now. I know CR was 
nonprof so what happened to the Board and volunteers he should have had to get 
that status?
I'm very sorry for the cats that paid_and the people that entrusted their lives 
to the sanctuary_for that mistake.
Another cautionary tale though unfortunatly very well based on reality.
Marta

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch - Another sanctuary owner charged with 
cruelty
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 5:22 AM


When I first heard about Grant's place, I thought that it would bea good place 
to send my babies when I passed.  Thank God I changed my mind.  I have since 
fond a good place for my children.  If I see just a tad abnormal dischage 
from their eys, i is off to the vet.  How could he let them get so sick?  I 
know that with that many cats, he prpbably ran out of time and money to care 
for the, but he should have admtted he needed help for the sake of the cats.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 When will people learn not to dump their animals at these 
 sanctuaries??

http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/Caboodle_Ranch_Cat_Sanctuary_Operator_Faces_Cruelty_Charges_140581263.html?storySection=story
 
If you have sent cats to Caboodle call 
212-876-7700 ASPCA Head Office for further information in the 
morning.
 
Agencies assisting the ASPCA on scene 
include: Atlanta Humane Society (Atlanta, Ga.); Bay Area Disaster Animal 
Response Team (Belleair Bluffs, Fla.); Cat Depot (Sarasota, Fla.); Florida 
State 
Animal Response Coalition (Bushnell, Fla.).
 
 
 
Celene Albano 
HPR Rescue 
CEO
501c3 Non-Profit.
Tax ID # 42-169-3737


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread Marta Gasper
Oh yes Heather! Couldn't agree more..a few tortured pets don't attract as much 
media as a suposedly haven gone bad..not a thought abt the person and why. So a 
stereotype is created and thast what the media exploits w/o giving a chance to 
the erso to speak for themselves.
Besides a story of this type attracts more attention than somebody skinning 
animals alive, just for the eek factor._One of those miscarriages of justice as 
for punishment and way it is exposed.
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 4:59 PM


One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty 
charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed here) 
will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely torture and 
maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much evidence.  I read one 
case recently of a man in California who was caught torturing then consuming 
stray cats, supposedly he was even witnessed skinning one alive (and other 
horrible acts), and he got a bit of community service, probation and a fine 
under $500.  This happens all the time.   Perhaps the discrepancy is solely in 
evidence, witnesses and the legal process, but it seems to me that hoarders are 
penalized more stringently than flat out torturers who commit such acts 
willingly, not because they got in over their heads.


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http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of-600-cats#photo-9221699

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] does my kitten have FeLV

2012-02-27 Thread Marta Gasper
Rapid breathing is pain. Get him to vet. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats

2012-02-24 Thread Marta Gasper
What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar so 
if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue 
group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, 
specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it 
is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having to 
use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by syringe, 
shoot in cheek pouch.
 
I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them 
either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too 
atracted to health food though;)
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM





Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of
vicks vapor rub on the nose of  my cat that had the respiratory infection . I 
tried 
Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of
the purina one  dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was 
good but
after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the 
tuna
and chicken best or plain tuna.  I tired purina one canned but they
don't really like it that much. They like some of
the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer 
they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the junk food. I give
them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair
years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of
my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed
at the  mouth so I just gave up.  I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in
alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it
with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed
fewer fleas so i will keep trying. 
Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard
pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use
Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. 





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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Tips to share?





On a different subject thought I might share this 
 
Re taking cats to vets:
I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal
 but if you put an  t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , 
it
seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being 
transferred 
from the carrier they came in..
Re getting a cat to eat:
I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with 
antibiotics
and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection.
One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat.
Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach.
Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in
their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in
 but it seemed to help them maybe soothed
sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or 
twice . I am not a vet so
if you are thinking of trying this,. 
Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's 
specific condition..
one of the sites mentioning honey is 
mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630
has anyone else had experience with this home remedy?
Cat with upper respiratory infection:
I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think 
it really helped.
 

    


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat vomiting, FeLV? was.. (no subject)

2012-02-23 Thread Marta Gasper
What are the other problems your cat has besides vomiting? I assume your vet 
came to the conclusion that your kitty had to be put down b/c he tested 
positive on an in office test? As you have heard that is unaceptable.
Or is your cat quite ill, lethargic, anemic, losing weight and is an in/out 
cat, has he come in contact with other cats with FeLV? How old is he?
Since he was tested he was not vaccinated or his vaccines are overdue?..Please 
tell us more..doesn't seem right that your vet told you he should be euthanized 
b/c he was just vomiting
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
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Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 4:24 AM






Actually, what I should have said was to find another vet.  Find one that knows 
more about FeLV and knows that it is not an automatic death sentence.  Find one 
that knows about the different types of tests and is open minded about FeLV and 
treating FeLV.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain





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Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:12:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)



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No - don't give up on him.  It's too early to make any decisions.  Just because 
the vet did one blood test that said he was FeLV positive that does not mean he 
will stay that way.  The test they do in the office is a first step.  An 
indicator that further testing is required.  That's all.  The vomiting could be 
from a lot of different things and isn't necessarily related to the FeLV.  

The test they do in the office can show a false positive - in other words, the 
test could be wrong.  That does happen in a small percentage of cases.  Those 
test are sensitive and can show incorrect results if not handled correctly.  
But, assuming the test is showing correct results then there are still other 
things to look at before making any decisions.  There is a possibility that the 
cat can extinguish the virus.  A percentage of cats that get the virus are 
actually able to get rid of it.  A second test called an IFA test will show 
whether the virus has progressed to the point of no return.  If that test is 
negative then the cat still has a chance to get rid of the virus so you should 
wait a couple months or so and re-test.  If that test is positive then it's not 
likely the cat will be able to get rid of the virus so you don't need to do any 
further testing.

But no matter what the test results are it doesn't mean you have to put him 
down.  You can put him down when he's suffering and there's no relief for him.  
Euthanasia is about ending pain that cannot be treated, not ending a life 
because of what could or could not happen in the future.  You just need to take 
care of him and treat his symptoms and who knows when his time will come.  Like 
I said above, the vomiting might not even be related to FeLV.  Lots of cats 
vomit for lots of different reasons.  Now you do need to figure what's wrong 
and fix it because you don't want him to become dehydrated from all the 
vomiting.  You tell that vet to figure out what's wrong and don't just assume 
he's throwing up because he has FeLV.

I'll let others chime in but don't give up yet.  Get him over this sickness and 
just treat him whenever he gets sick but don't assume he's going to die anytime 
one little thing goes wrong.  Many cats with FeLV can live several years.  I've 
heard of 8, 9 and 10 year olds that are still kicking.  Actually there are some 
that go into their teens.  If a cat contracts FeLV when it's a kitten then they 
don't do as well and many of them will die within the first 3 years.  Not all, 
but a good bit.  But adults seem to be able to deal with it for a long time.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain





Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:34:48 -0800
From: warden_christ...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject)



i have a male cat bout three yrs old whom recently gotten sick he started 
vomininting on the second day i took him to the vet they said he had felv an 
that there was nothin they could do he has no fever,he weights 8 pound. just 
throwing up they say i 

Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-15 Thread Marta Gasper
Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's 
long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits clear 
liquid? Clear could be trying to bring up a hairball too but at 11 I'd have him 
checked for a renal condition.
Cats with CRF throw up very often, I had a 10 yr old  that was sick almost 
every other day, she was fine otherwise but her kidneys were failing. I didn't 
know the first year until she had a senior panel.
So if you haven't done it, I'd suggest you go that route for him.
Marta


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[Felvtalk] Colloidal silver..was Doxy

2012-02-12 Thread Marta Gasper




We use often colloidal silver treating 
raw spots, wounds, scrapes. Vet suggested it for one of my cats that kept 
getting a sore on his back after a lump was removed, biopsy negative etc, 
finally healed with colloidal silver. Have used collagen too but area around 
sore must be well shaved or it makes a big mess, even if cat can't reach it.
I know cs  is controversial and it is not proven it kills all bacteria but have 
never gotten ill results.
We get it at the clinic as a paste that is spread over the sore.
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[Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow

2012-02-07 Thread Marta Gasper
.. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs vet 
though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was holding 
her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get things 
ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got her out of 
carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up and stared at 
them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like something out of a horror 
movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her brain and made her blind, 
she was in lots of pain so we helped her along. But did I wish I had done it 
before..
I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in the 
bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do will be 
the best decision
Sending a big hug
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[Felvtalk] Your ginger kitty

2012-02-05 Thread Marta Gasper
Where are you in South Africa?..I'm guessing that there like everywhere else 
you can get better opinions where there are more vets..like for example, large 
cities.
 
FeLV is not a death sentence and like you have been told they can live good 
lives..I had had two cats with FeLV, the one right now was supossed to live at 
most a few months, it will be one year and he's doing so much better, fat and 
sassy;) 
Tell us what symptoms you kitty has; if she's eating and all normal but just 
tested positive for FeLV, don't despair, she might get it over and or be with 
you a long lifetime.
I hope she and you will be okay..sending light from Fairbury, Nebraska, U.S.!
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Marta Gasper
Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is 
most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the 
rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but 
not FIV/FeLV.
And it always depend on at what point(stage) the cat is. I would just give 
rabies to a symptomatic b/c it is the law and no others, same with FIV.
One would think that vets would be aware of it..even staff should be or they 
shouldn't be working atr a clinic. If pets were people that were killed b/c a 
nurse gave them the wrong vaccine it is involuntary manslaughter, at least 
she'd lose her job if not her license, vet  clinic staff on the other hand..argh
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From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 4:48 PM




My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they 
vaccinated him with core vaccines AND  Felv, and I think that is what started 
him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it 
would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:







Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did 
not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much 
younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia  other complications due to being 
FeLV positive.  I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm 
wondering since you've mentioned this.  Has anyone else heard of this?

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat



I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

2011-12-01 Thread Marta Gasper










Thank-you everybody for sweet words and positive thoughts..Horus is doing well 
considering, I think he's filling up again, getting a paunch again. The tests 
results might be back tomorrow but most likely sometime next week. Does 
somebody have experience seeing almost clear fluid? The tech said didn't look 
like FIP to her..but don't know if FIP is like other diseases that doesn't have 
a defined characteristic(in this case different looking fluid vs thick yellow 
liquid)
He's on amoxi for a bacterial infection, sub-q's everyother day or as needed.
 He's too sweet. he always was, except hours after rescue was the hissiest of 
the litter but as months passed Horus turned into a  very laidback, purr 
machine kitty, 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 3:14 AM


Here are more prayers for Hortus and you.  Poor baby, he must be miserable and 
you must be also having to see him suffering.  I do hope he gets better soon.
.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 Holding a good thought for you and Horus, Marta.
 
 Hang in there!
 
 ~Bonnie
 
  
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
 
  
 
 
 Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor baby!
 And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR, cytology
 and fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a
 pound  1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the fluid.
 But even so his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is
 serious, whatever it is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5 days
 
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[Felvtalk] Horus was drained

2011-11-29 Thread Marta Gasper
Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor baby! 
And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR, cytology and 
fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a pound  
1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the fluid. But even so 
his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is serious, whatever it 
is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5 days
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[Felvtalk] Many apologies

2011-11-29 Thread Marta Gasper
Oops sorry, former msg was intended for the FIP group!
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Re: [Felvtalk] how long does it take for an infected cat to regain its strength?

2011-11-22 Thread Marta Gasper
So sorry..he could be undergoing the first stage(sickly for a couple of weeks 
or so then recovers and if asymptomatic can live years) or not, be in the last 
stages, if he is in the last stages depending on age, what organs were infected 
etc, might live weeks to a year..hard to tell without a test that can tell you 
where virus is..just from what described sounds like months but this is just a 
quess, what test did he have? The in-house? Or an IFA? IFA is definitive though 
pricey. And how old is your kitty?
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From: Dana Jarvis jarvisd...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] how long does it take for an infected cat to regain its 
strength?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 1:12 PM






My cat was diagnosed on Nov.10th but had been sick probably a couple of weeks 
prior to diagnosis. He was laying around the house alot and not really acting 
his playful self.
I thought he had worms so when I took him to the vet I was shocked because I 
never heard of this virus. He also had pneumonia. He is still weak and has no 
appetite which I syringe feed him food  4 times a day with nutri-cal and hills. 
He's been on amoxacillin for 2 weeks and just started on AZT on Sunday. Does 
anyone know how long it will take or just on average when he will start showing 
any signs of his immune system taking care of this virus. I know it's specific 
to the cat but I would like to know what I am looking at as far as him getting 
better or if he will be able to tackle this. He sure is a fighter and I am 
willing to do anything it takes to get him better. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14

2011-11-18 Thread Marta Gasper
I must look pretty defiant or something because only one vet(the youngest, 
first job, I thought she'd have new ideas, nope just as antiquated as the one 
thats nearing retirement)did suggest the pts solution out of 3 different ones.
I always try to 'reeducate' vets, just I'd educate a person in the street that 
never even heard of the disease.
Yes it is true FeLV+'s can die a slow and painful death, not all though. It is 
up to the owner to look for signs that the time is near and know when to help 
kitty along.
Have learnt that the hard way. But it is not the vet place to suggest that 
'final solution'.
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From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, November 18, 2011, 6:07 PM







Or how about the ones that live to ripe old age—my Tucson is 13+ and positive 
and a hefty 16 lbs!
 


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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marci Greer
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14
 

Hi Everyone,
 
We have a FELv + kitty Maddie who was diagnosed over 3 yrs ago and is doing 
wonderfully, We just took another stray kitty named Charles to the vet on 
Monday, before they did the combo test my husband said, no matter what the test 
comes back we ARE NOT putting him to sleep, the vet came back in and he did 
test a weak positive for FELv, if my husband would have not said what he did 
I'm sure they would have started with putting him to sleep right then (the same 
as they did with Maddie) , they did go ahead and neuter him and we brought him 
home and he is doing very well (asymptomatic) and is rooming with our Maddie. I 
talked to the vet regarding FELv because I can't understand why the first 
option is always putting them to sleep, it makes me crazy thinking about how 
many cats are put to sleep and don't deserve to be, The vet said that FELv + 
cats will die a slow and painful death, I said ok well what about the ones that 
test false positive or the ones
 that test positive and are able to throw the virus off, he said he has never 
heard of that happen, I guess what I am getting at is there any way to reverse 
what these vets are taught in college. I know I'm grasping but I just hate this 
so much for these cats that can lead a healthy life and aren't even given the 
chance! 
 
Marci, Maddie,  Charles
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] testing cats

2011-11-18 Thread Marta Gasper
I don't have enough authority/knowlegde to say I disagree with the last 
statement cats over the age of 16 wks are virtually inmune to FeLV..I'd say I 
wished, because I have seen cats older than 3 yrs to get infected.
Whether it was the cat was sick and wasn't obvious even to an ELISA(wich I had 
been told it can give false FIV results but is accurate on FeLV) I don't know.
 
Being on the rescue  adopt out position, I've to get my adoptables tested and 
vaccinated. It'd be wonderful if everybody would know the facts
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Subject: [Felvtalk] testing cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, November 18, 2011, 6:27 PM








As I continue to try to learn as much as possible about this illness and 
testing the kitten I found,
I came across this post on the Best Friends site questioning the testing 
process.  I was wondering if
anyone had any comments on its contents?Thanks
 http://network.bestfriends.org/groups/smitten_by_kittens/pages/feline-leukemia-testing-why-are-you-wasting-your-money.aspx
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Re: [Felvtalk] new member

2011-11-16 Thread Marta Gasper
Debbie
Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I 
agree with Beth.
The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for 
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, 
though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what 
it is.
I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no 
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't 
give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, 
the last thing any cat needs.
However if he has stomatitis I would.
I've had and have FeLV+s cats.
The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a 
chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he 
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't 
coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has 
lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.
Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most 
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better 
life now tho very limited.
Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis 
or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or 
glucocorticoids.
M

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member
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Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM





Debbie -


There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old 
cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous 
test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a 
positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he 
cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?


Beth

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 
years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which 
was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old 
rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any 
cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster to the 
vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn 
for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, 
this time

Thank you so much

debbie   buster 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies

2011-11-16 Thread Marta Gasper
Muscle weakness and muscle wasting on rear legs are the first side effects of 
long-term pred dosing. And long term for pred is not(as I thought)5 years but a 
couple or 3.
I also think that his sitting not touching the floor is due to either arthritis 
and/or muscle pain. If his muscles are weakening he'll be in pain.
I've two cats that do it and one of the rescue kittens did it recently(she hurt 
her back via bad fall, she's much better but it was scary)
I also have another kitten that was dx with muscle wasting(birth defect) he 
doesn't sit normally either.
 
I understand your feelings and am sorry for what you are going throught, a 15 
year old is frail and lots of infirmities like an elderly person. So you are 
doing your best and giving lots of love to Buster, thats waht matters I believe.
 
IMO if he had FIP(there's no test for FIP, the lady must have meant FIV?) he 
wouldn't be with you now and if he had FeLV probably not either. I do have a 
cat for adoption that is 10 yrs old and tested FIV+ twice, that to me is 
remarkable b/c he was a cat that owner kept outside, I wouldn't expect it to 
live this long being exposed to so much.
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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks for the replies
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 4:10 AM


I really appreciate everyone who responded to my post.  It makes me feel a bit 
more secure knowing there are others rooting for our success.

I think that my keeping Buster on prednisolone is a requirement since he has 
been on it for so long.  I am sure it has compromised his adrenals and that 
without pred, he will have Cushings (or maybe Addison's).

Beth - Buster did have blood work done, in 2009, and it was all fine.  ELISA 
was negative.  Before I took in this older cat (her guardian died and the 
rescue group was unable to find anyone to take her), I asked to have the cat 
tested.  I have 2 other, indoor only, cats and I wanted to make sure that I 
didn't bring disease into the house.  I was told that the new cat tested 
negative for FIP and FeLV.  I do trust the woman who asked me to take in the 
older kitty, but I have no paperwork to verify.

Although Buster lived amicably with my 2nd cat, she hated the new cat.  The new 
cat caused Buster a lot of stress.  I tried everything, Rescue Remedy, Feliway 
etc.  Finally, after about a year, things settled down.  I never saw any 
wounds, on either cat, but I know there were 'minor' fights as I found tufts of 
hair around (including once or twice hanging out of Buster's mouth!)  They 
still hiss, but mostly try to stay out of one another's way

My vet didn't want to give me the prednisolone, but I was frantic, unable to 
pay for any more investigative work, and wanted my cat well.  I live over 90 
miles, one way, from my (any) vet, and I think she gave me the pred. out of 
kindness.  Regardless of good or bad, Buster has been on 5mg for 2 years.

I don't think Buster has stomatitis now, although eating does appear painful at 
times.  Back in 2010, the vet did extract a couple of teeth.  And, a tooth, or 
two just disintegrated when she was cleaning his teeth.  Last time he was under 
(2010) she said his throat appeared inflamed, but I do pill him everyday and I 
am sure that caused that inflammation

He doesn't eat a lot, and he eats small amounts many, many, many times 
throughout the day.  Occasionally, he does stop eating and I need to syringe 
food.  He doesn't/can't eat dry food any more.

I will look at his gums tomorrow.

Marta, I agree and appreciate your thoughts 'it is what it is'.  I am trying my 
best, by myself, to keep Buster alive.  At this point, my focus is only to keep 
him happy, comfortable and with me.  I finally realized, he won't get well.  I 
do think he wants to stay alive.  Although failing, he sits with me, sleeps 
with me, communicates with me etc.  He does have muscle weakness in the back 
end.  He can't sit to groom without falling.  

One odd thing, that I have never been able to figure out, is when he sits, his 
bottom doesn't touch the floor?  And, now,  to lay down he has to kinda 
settle himself carefully.  Something is hurting I am sure.

Not sure why this 'phone vet' thought FeLV except for the inappetance.  But, 
when I looked at the Cornell site, Buster had more than half the symptoms.  I 
do know that these are common symptoms for many illnesses.

Maybe he doesn't have FeLV, and maybe he does.  It's a great comfort to me 
to have a sounding board and to hear how others are treating their kitties.

Buster has just begun sneezing, just a bit, but no blood.

In general, how long do FeLV cats live without Interferon etc?  Can they be 
kept alive with the right drugs, or 3 years is pretty much it, plus or minus?

Thanks!

PS  All my cats share common food and water bowls and litter box.

debbie

Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Marta Gasper
Oh Susan I'm so very, very sorry! Autumn was lucky to live and be loved at your 
home. I've had one cat die of FeLV and seen other 3 that were my ferals be 
stricken the same way. Right now we've Tiger who I adopted out and had to bring 
back because owner couldn't care for him, he's also FeLV+ and at the point of 
no return though he's a happy cat.
FeLV is so frustrating and takes them when they are young many times. Sweet 
Autumn is looking over you. RIP Autumn
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From: Susan Ang sea7...@gmail.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 12:33 PM


My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years 
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She was 
precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home will be 
so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

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Re: [Felvtalk] retesting kittens

2011-11-03 Thread Marta Gasper
yep, two months..also for adults
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 Seems like it's a couple of months after they test positive, that you retest, 
but wanted to check.  Anybody know?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Vet meds

2011-10-19 Thread Marta Gasper
know where I can buy RX vet meds overseas without an RX?
 
Some shelters or Humane Societies do sell to rescuers/small shelters for a 
lesser price w/o a prescription..of course it helps if they know you and what 
you do (as in my case, I buy abx like clav, Biomox(amoxi) from a nearby Humane 
Society, also I get Trifectant(desinfectant for cages) from them)
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From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet meds
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:48 PM


Lorrie,

I'm late chiming in here. I can't help you with Acarexx, but look into 
FishMox for the clavamox. It can be ordered without a prescription and from 
what I was told, it's the same as clavamox. I even ordered it for myself 
once when I had an infected tooth.

Cindy


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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet meds


 Does anyone know where I can buy RX vet meds overseas without an RX?
 With 25 cats in my shelter and at home I need to keep some basic
 things at home such as Acarexx for earmites, Clavamox (antibiotic)
 etc.

 Thanks,

 Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Horton Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-10-02 Thread Marta Gasper
I'm so sorry Sherry, he's whole and romping on clover flelds at the Bridge
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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horton Please add to the CLS :*(
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 8:26 PM






May Horton rest in peace – and may you always remember that you gave him a 
loving home!
 
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 2:34 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Horton Please add to the CLS :*(
 





Yesterday Dr. Jen had to let our sweet big gray guy Horton go. He became a Sids 
kid about 4 years ago and had escaped when somehow or someone ripped a screen 
out of a window. We searched the neighborhood day and night for several cats 
that got out,3 of them were never found and when last year it happened again we 
actually found Horton after 3 years of being missing !!! So we did have a 
chance to love him for a year. Now we take more caution on the downstairs 
windows...we lock and close them at night. Horton you will be missed.

Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke

2011-09-24 Thread Marta Gasper
I hope he has a happy and loving home..I've a friend that smokes and she has 
two FeLV+ cats. There is no problem unless a cat develops a resp infection in 
which case she should be in an smokeless room_like any other cat with 
respiratory problems should be_ but other than that
I've never heard of smoke being a particular no-no for FeLVers.
Marta

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From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 8:26 PM


good for you.  they will be loved and that is one of the most important things


 Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote: 
 Thanks to everyone for their input on the smoking applicant! It's been a 
 difficult decision, but I've decided not to decline the applicant based 
 solely on the fact that he smokes, so we're going to proceed. Of course, all 
 other standard procedures will apply (reference check, home visit, etc).
 
 I appreciate the fact that the person is honest. He's applying through his 
 sister and she made it a point to inform me of the smoking situation and 
 voiced concerns regarding whether it would be a risk for Tumble due to his 
 FeLV+ status. I hadn't had any experience with smoking specific to FeLV+ 
 cats, so I thought I'd post here for input. 
 
 Based on personal experience, most people who have contacted me feel the risk 
 would be minimal. While I also value the thoughts of those who advised 
 against the adoption and I'd prefer a non-smoking environment, I have to 
 weigh that against the alternatives. Tumble is currently living in a basement 
 (a daylight basement with windows, but still, with limited human 
 interaction). The applicant is homebound due to health problems and is 
 looking for a 24/7 companion. He wants to adopt both Tumble and his companion 
 Cody; I'd love for these boys to stay together, as they came to me together 
 and are best buddies. The thought of them being beloved companions warms my 
 heart.
 
 So... it may not be perfect, but if they'll have good vet care and a loving 
 home, I think I'll go ahead with the adoption. Doing so will also free up 
 some space and allow me to help others that would otherwise be euthanized.
 
 Please send good thoughts that everything works out for what's best for the 
 boys.
 
 Thank you all again!
 Cindy, Tumble, and Cody
 
 
 
 
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   From: Tad Burnett 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
 
 
   What are your options...
   Not everybody finds that people willing to adopt FeLV+ kitties are 
available...
   A smoker may not be the best choice but I would except a smoker before 
PTS
   Tad
 
 
   On 9/21/2011 9:01 PM, ter...@tazzys.org wrote: 
     Hi all,
     Well here is my 2 cents worth!
     I'm a smoker have been for 40 years. I do not smoke directly in front of 
my cats/kittens. My personal kitties have never gotten sick or develop cancers 
from smoke this includes my FELV kitties.
     I've been adopting cats/kittens for over 30 years to both non-smokers and 
smokers. I have to say my smokers take better care of their kitties than 
non-smokers that have small children. As I've been to their homes and seen how 
clean they were. I've have repeat adopters as their kitties didn't die to 
cancers. 
     Actually, lived fairly long lives. The kitties had the best in medical as 
well.
     So I do not discriminate adopters that smoke.
 
     I agree with Susan Hoffman on her posting.
 
     My suggestion is if you don't want to adopt to people that smoke. Be up 
front with them about it. 
     Also, if your a rescue/shelter put it in your rules and guidelines on 
your applications that you don't adopt your kitties to smokers.
     This way the adopter doesn't feel bad or have their heart set on the 
kitty. 
     Regardless whether the kitty is Negative, FELV, FIV, or both.
 
 
 
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        Original Message 
       Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
       From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
       Date: Wed, September 21, 2011 9:02 am
       To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 
       Hi,
 
       We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like 
a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a 
considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, 
but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it 
sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's 

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?

2011-09-24 Thread Marta Gasper
Hope your kittens are doing ok, FIP is horrible to deal with.
Tiger is 5 years old, he'll get a PCR and other tests. I didn't check further 
than the snap and a fecal just assuming that all would be FeLV related but you 
are right better to take care of secondary infections
Marta


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From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 8:32 PM





Hi, Marta,
My two cents is that, just because the kitty is tested positive for Felk, you 
may not want to assume that it is the felk virus that is going the symptoms.
As you know, Felk kittens have weakened immue system, so they are very 
susceptive to different type of illness, infections, cancers... etc...
 
Have they run for chemistry panel on him?  Does he have regenerative or non 
regenerative anemia?  any parasites?
 
I have a few felk kitens myself - one of the kittens developed uevitis, and 
another kittehn started having a diffuclty breathing,, I thought uevitis was 
from felk virus, and diffculty breathing was from medistinal lymphma (fluid 
build up in the chest caviity) as it's very common among young felk kittens 
--but in stead, I found out that what they have if FIP - I am very much 
devastated... right now, clinically they are doing well - they are on LTCI, 
alpah interferon right now.. and  I am taking one day at atime..
 
I hope your kitty gets better.
 
Hideyo
 



Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:22:09 -0700
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?






I knew this list was someplace but couldn't find it..now I've.
I live in Nebraska and do cat rescue and TNR..the first time I came accross the 
disease was last Fall when a feral that I had relocated to my backyard became 
seriouly ill and tested FeLV+. She was euthanized two weeks later because had 
gone blind and was in terrible pain(uveitis etc)
Then not yet a month ago I brought back a cat that a friend had taken from an 
abusive home a year ago at which time he had a broken leg but otherwise was 
very well..or seemed to.
She couldn't care for her cats anymore so I brought Tiger to my house, he is 
FeLV+ and a shadow of what he was a year ago, looks like he's on the end stage, 
very emaciated, skin issues, difficulty swallowing sometimes, diahrrea, sores 
around eyes.
He is a happy cat though, eats like a horse, wants to play but between his bad 
leg and anemia sometimes he falls down.
There were other FeLV+ cats in the house and some died shortly after the 
original owners took them back.
My question; is there an strain that can kill a cat in a year or so? They were 
all snap tested only, except one that had a PCR and it came back positive, some 
tested negative but looked sick so they'll retest.
I don't want to rush anything for Tiger unless he's in pain and he doesn't seem 
to be, should I PCR him? He has an URI and had coccidia so was medicated for 
it, had fleas but I can't find anymore fleas or flea dirt. I'm not spraying or 
putting topicals on him b/c of his sores and  little scabs all over that 
sometimes bleed.
I'd appreciate any comments..thank-you and happy to be on the list
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[Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?

2011-09-22 Thread Marta Gasper
I knew this list was someplace but couldn't find it..now I've.
I live in Nebraska and do cat rescue and TNR..the first time I came accross the 
disease was last Fall when a feral that I had relocated to my backyard became 
seriouly ill and tested FeLV+. She was euthanized two weeks later because had 
gone blind and was in terrible pain(uveitis etc)
Then not yet a month ago I brought back a cat that a friend had taken from an 
abusive home a year ago at which time he had a broken leg but otherwise was 
very well..or seemed to.
She couldn't care for her cats anymore so I brought Tiger to my house, he is 
FeLV+ and a shadow of what he was a year ago, looks like he's on the end stage, 
very emaciated, skin issues, difficulty swallowing sometimes, diahrrea, sores 
around eyes.
He is a happy cat though, eats like a horse, wants to play but between his bad 
leg and anemia sometimes he falls down.
There were other FeLV+ cats in the house and some died shortly after the 
original owners took them back.
My question; is there an strain that can kill a cat in a year or so? They were 
all snap tested only, except one that had a PCR and it came back positive, some 
tested negative but looked sick so they'll retest.
I don't want to rush anything for Tiger unless he's in pain and he doesn't seem 
to be, should I PCR him? He has an URI and had coccidia so was medicated for 
it, had fleas but I can't find anymore fleas or flea dirt. I'm not spraying or 
putting topicals on him b/c of his sores and  little scabs all over that 
sometimes bleed.
I'd appreciate any comments..thank-you and happy to be on the list
Marta


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Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

2011-09-22 Thread Marta Gasper
I'm so very sorry Edna..Godspeed beautiful Miller
Marta


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From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:12 PM





Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't 
want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave 
him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got 
home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment 
center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, 
he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time to let him go.  
Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over.  
We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in 
our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
Edna, Frank and the Nuisance

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Taking temps

2006-10-25 Thread marta gasper
Wendy;  The thermometer that goes in the ear is used with kitties too but ussually gives a lower reading. My fp takes both ear and rectal temp, never asked why the do the ears if it isn't too accurate but thre must be (hopefully) a reason.  If you lubricate it well, rectal temp taking should be no problem. Is it just you taking temp? When I get a squirmy one I've somebody to help because you're right, if he moves suddenly it could hurt him but generally there's no problem.   Marta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta   

Couch potato

2006-10-25 Thread marta gasper
Suzette doesn't really hangs limp, I guess I exxagerated it, but she is like Marigold, she seem to just putup with it and then 'talks about it'. I don't have a house for her yet, I didn't look really because I thought she'd come around eventually. But you're right, she could be adopted out as a 'couch potato'..  Marta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta
   

Sleepy kitten+

2006-10-24 Thread marta gasper
Thank-you very much for the clarification on corona virus and FIP, everybody.**She's just the sweetest little mush pile** that's what S is allright, and shereacts tobeing moved (ie when I'm cleaning the cage and must remove her bedding I sort of pick her up) not by squirming or tryng to get down but just hangs in my hand limp, when I set her down she growls and closes her eyes.  Can Marigold be petted? Does she purrr/knead or other? We pet S and she purrs, turns on her back to have her belly rubbed and paws knead the air, she might stare at us dreamingly. Stop the pet and she curls up and goes to sleep..My cousin has a kitty rescued as a kittenfrom a barn cat situation.  Tippy ismiddle age nowand she acts in a similar way, never meows, growls, sleep lots, doesn't play and she's healthy. I never wondered about it b/c I met Tippy  when she
 was about 2 yrs..somehow I though a kitten that didn't play even if feral was a sick kitten, maybe not? I'll let everybody know what we find out and Nina, thanks for telling me about MarigoldMarta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta   

Satch Bea

2006-10-17 Thread marta gasper
I'll donate too..  Marta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta   

Interferon; for Sally

2006-10-16 Thread marta gasper
**I just read the abstract regarding using low dose interferon for treatment of FIV and possibly FeLV. I know this was a small study group. Does anyone here have experience with this sort of treatment?**Only at crisis time_no eating, etc_however it depends on the cat. My FIV+ cat has been on intereferon since last year when he crashed but as he got better we're reducing the dose so that he eventually will be completly off.  Again, it depends on the cat's needs, I know some people have had cats on interferon for years while others had them on it for weeks.  Interferon supplies what the body can't produce and stimulates appetite; it is used in many crisis type situations, not neccesaraly FIV/FeLV.  Marta  Please visit
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Stolen

2006-10-16 Thread marta gasper
Noo! How terrible!!! My heart goes out to you and your kitties, many good thoughts and light your way for a safe return.  Do contact the news, police, shelters, vets, maybe somebody found them and took them in to a vet, etc  Hugs  Marta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta   

Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 55

2006-08-19 Thread marta gasper
About Animal Control and the Police..I don't know in your state but where I live in NE there's no AC and the police will act only if you're in town. Outside the City limits the county sheriff has juridiction, IOW if you're here in a rural area you could contact the co sheriff and they would take over..is that maybe your situation?   Marta    Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta   

Azrael

2006-08-15 Thread marta gasper
Leslie,  My condolences on sweet Azrael passing, may she cavort forever happily at the Bridge  Marta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta   

Re: Thanks for welcome and more

2006-08-01 Thread marta gasper
Thank-you everybody for the welcome, I'm sure I'll learn much here. The little feral isn't responding to meds and today I found one her siblings just like the 1st one. At the vet now undergoing (when they get to it) tests and more. I've a tiny bit of hope because this one put up more of a fight and she doesn't look like the other (genetics) but she seems so weak she might have the same problem..  Abt FIP, etc.When I had Jerome (my fiver) dx the first time the vetsaid FIP diagnosis was based on his symptoms tho he might not have it. Tested pos on both tests for FIV , and he was an adult intact stray when I foundhim so high risk thenhe maybe is truly +. Anyways he's doing great and such a lover.Hideyo, much, much light and positive thoughs for you, no matter how many times you go
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New member

2006-07-31 Thread marta gasper
I just joined, I'm Marta from Nebraska, some of you already know me from other lists.  I have no FeLV kitties right now_just a FIV+, was diagnosed with FIP almost a year ago but he bounced back so well, most likely that isn't the problem. I'll know more on next vet check up next month.  We care for ferals in our town and last Sat took a 4 month old feral kitten to the vet b/c she looked so sick (not sickpuppy sick but very lethargic unlike her, she's so wild I've seen so little of her)  She's been running a 105° fever_actually came down 1 degree this morning and upon tests was found very anemic, with an URI and coccidia_ so she's on subq's, Metacam (strange shouldn't have M reduced the fever by now, she got it this morning) and a combo of doxy and baytril for blood parasytes. They're feeding her Nutrical.  I've thought of FIP or leuk as a possibility but she tested negative on the combo test (means little I
 know)_her mom was negative when we TNR' her_and she being a feral it sort of cuts the chances of having FIP but I don't know.  We're hoping the doxy cocktail will work for her anemia, I'll know more tomorrow.   I've been following the immuno regulin thread_Hideyo , I'm so sorry, sending prayers and best vibes for your little one_would it work on infectious anemia?  Thank-you very much and thank-you for this list.  Marta  Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta