Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor

2011-06-01 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Even if you have indoor-only cats, they can get fleas. A vet once told
me, If a squirrel runs through your yard, you can have a flea
infestation in the house. True, dat. My college roommate and I had
three indoor cats, and one summer they all became so infested we had to
bomb the house... Twice. (Interesting side-note: a flea can't
live/reproduce off human blood)

I have 12 cats and use Revolution on them. I don't put it on all of them
at once- I stagger it and put it on two this week, two next week, etc.
That seems to keep the fleas at bay. I'd also like to address Natalie's
vet- I used to work for a vet (and at an animal shelter) and have seen
numerous cats go into seizures and die from Frontline and Advantage, but
never Revolution. Doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, I've just never
seen or heard of it (and I know a lot of Crazy Cat People! haha).

-Original Message-
From: Natalie [] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor

I'm not quite sure what Advantage does - you could look up each product
and see their specifications.
I just sent some suggestions to group; some we have used and are using,
and some that I am considering, although what we have right now really
works well on all the cats and the doggie.  Although our cats don't go
outside, they use the outdoor enclosures, thereby possible being exposed
to fleas.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-10 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into the 
empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.

-Original Message-
From: [] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so it 
smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon 
because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later 
and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.

  On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
  we are not alone.
  really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
  yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken   cornstarch). 
  warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it 
  around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or 
  taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.  
  routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all 
  this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that 
  since had read that shouldn't .
  soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
  thank you.  forward together.
  thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.   they 
  send you love.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-18 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I had a cat with FELV that lived to be 17. I never separated him from my
other cats, they ate out of the same bowls, etc., and none of them ever
contracted the disease. The other ones were vaccinated against it. I've
also had 2 other positives living with my negative cats (one lived to be
4, the other 8), and none of my other cats ever contracted it.

My brother, too, had a positive cat that lived to be 17- and he, too,
never separated his cats out. None of his other cats (vaccinated) ever
contracted Feleuk. Just sayin'.

-Original Message-
From: Pam Norman [] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re positives  negatives

I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now  when the IFA
test results come in. I've been reading  reading  from what I can
gather, the old dictums about NEVER havinig positive  negative cats
even in the same house has been abandoned.  From what I have read, the
general sense is that it's fine for positives  negatives to be in the
same home, but should be separate so there is no chance of exchanging 
fluids such as with a bite, but more importantly with mutual grooming.

But I know also that some of you have both positives  negatives really
living together, not separate. Right?

What about if I put Poppy in her condo in the spare bedroom  let me
cats visit, so at  least she SEES other cats.  What is she hisses 
spits?  Would that have a chance of infecting any of mine who were
nosing around her condo?  My feeling is that it would.

Also how effective is the vaccine these days?  I know that some years
ago the figure was about 30% so I never  had any of my cats vaccinated.

Has it been  improved?

Right now we are still waiting for the IFA test for Poppy. And I guess
she needs retesting on that in at least a month. I do NOT want to keep
her alone until then.  We  have a sanctuary for her if she tests IFA
positive cause then we know that she is really positive. But the person
who runs it tells  me that regardless of how she tests on the IFA, she
HAS leukemia. Period.  And would go in with the positive cats. But my
understanding  is that if she is IFA negative, she has a chance of
fighting it off  putting her in with the positives is giving up.  I
think she should only go in with the positives if she tests IFA

Can anyone help me sort this out?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(

2011-04-04 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Oh no!!! I’m so sorry to hear that, Terrie L I’m sure that Taz and all the rest 
are taking good care of him… Keeping you in our prayers.



From: [] 
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :(


Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me. 

It is hard on me since we have been together for many years. 

He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in 


My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully in 
his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again. 


He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially by 
my Taz as he loved him too.



Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
Non-Profit national rescue

Dedicated to the welfare of animals.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws

2011-03-28 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Wow, what a bunch of D.A.s! Like my mama always said, Stupid people
shouldn't breed. They should have found a GOOD home for the cats and
euthanized themselves.

-Original Message-
From: Natalie [] 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws

ALONG.  If the cat hasn't scratched them, why would it scratch the baby
- besides, it's better to be scratched than bitten anytime!  Years ago,
neighbors adopted a baby and had their two 4-yr old cats declawed,
worrying about scratches, although the cats never scratched them.  When
baby arrived, one of the cats bit the baby in the hand - seriously
(never, ever having attempted to bite the neighbors). The baby didn't
even provoke the cat - it was just lying on the floor.  Both cats were
euthanized the next day.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Dr. Nicholas Dodman wrote an awesome book about cat personalities and
problems, including aggression towards housemates and people. It's
called The Cat Who Cried For Help, and addresses situations like

-Original Message-
From: Diane Rosenfeldt [] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

My housemate and I were faced with such a decision 10 or 11 years ago,
when we moved from our separate apartments to our formerly-two-flat
house, and melded our cat families. She had two, an elderly lady named
Kitty and a pugnacious orange boy named Tribble. I had 3 -- my laid-back
Luc, my introverted fluffy tortie Phoebe, and my mom's black girly,
Missy. Tribble had always deferred to Kitty when they lived together,
and continued to do so, thank goodness. But as time went on and our cat
population changed a little, Tribble showed quite a bit of aggression,
and we had to take somebody or other to the vet to have bites treated at
least twice. So we were in a real bind, since we are both
cats-are-family-for-life people, and we did love Tribble with all his
peculiarities. We knew nobody would adopt him anyway. We are both
anti-declaw and had the raggedy furniture to prove it, but we decided
that for the safety of the other cats we would have him declawed,
feeling maybe he would lose some aggressiveness, and also that he might
still be able to bite, but he wouldn't be able to dig in and hold on
while he did so. We found the one place in town at the time that did the
laser technique.

We were worried about all the things mentioned -- the pain, the litter
problems, the behavioral problems. But he really seemed not to mind,
even during the first days. He was fine with the litterbox, and didn't
develop any behavioral problems above and beyond the ones he had going
in. He was still aggressive, but wasn't able to inflict nearly the
damage, which was mission accomplished as far as we were concerned. The
upside for him is that to this day he still tries to sharpen those claws
on furniture, wicker etc., and he's the only one that doesn't get shooed
away. I know we got lucky here, and that most cats suffer more, but if
we had it to do again we'd still make the same decision under the same
circumstances. It was either that or sentence Tribble to almost certain

Diane R. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I guess the birds should have stayed dinosaurs, then... ;-)

From: LauraM []
Sent: Tue 3/22/2011 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is habitat loss, but cats are #2.
There's a well-known study that was conducted on a couple of adjacent beaches 
in California, one with a feral cat population and one without. The beach that 
is home to feral cats has no birds - remember that most shorebirds are ground 
nesters - while the cat-free beach supports a healthy bird population.
Of course, our birds have natural predators - some raptors such as red-tailed 
hawks prey mostly on birds. Kingsnakes and rat snakes are known for feasting on 
eggs and hatchlings. But this is natural predation  so things are kept in 
balance. Throw in a highly efficient predator such as a cat and the balance 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Shoot, why send it privately? Put it up here for all to see. Name and shame!

From: Natalie []
Sent: Wed 3/23/2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

That's horrible, and many people do not realize what it entails and how many
cats lose their lives - they think it's a manicure...but many vets are to
blame.  Several people told me that after adopting from us, they went to
their own vet, and after telling them that the cats will be kept indoors
only, the vets said Oh, you have an option to declaw!  Banfield Health.
The group at Petsmart, offers a big special for kitten health - all the
vaccines, exams, and declawing for a very good price!  I wrote to them about
declawing; they wrote back with the most ridiculous comments.  If anyone
would like to see their reply, I'll send it privately.  Last year, I was
informed that they will no longer cut ears and tails on dogs, because it's
purely cosmetic...I wrote to them, asking their policy on declawing since
they have made that big leap on no longer mutilating dogs, they might have
reconsidered doing it to reply from them.
O always ask people what they would prefer, a few things scratched up or
urine-soaked carpets and furniture.Besides, not all cats grow up to be
scratchers...and providing good posts and trimming their nails works well.

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Re: [Felvtalk] facebook or twitter?

2011-03-17 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I block most of mine. ;-) That way, I only get the ones I  WANT to see.

From: Beth []
Sent: Thu 3/17/2011 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] facebook or twitter?

Personally I am already drowning in Facebook posts.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!   

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Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?

2011-03-16 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
My cat Bob shared the link on his Facebook profile, too...

-Original Message-
From: dana giordano [] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:41 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey
friendly FelV positive senior?

Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing
10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died.

Can anyone take him in?

He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's
good enough for this little lovebug.
As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the
interim, I will make sure he's confirmed.  Even a foster would be
appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave
him this long a chance.

Let me know.


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport

2011-03-16 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Here's another one: 

-Original Message-
From: Kelley Saveika [] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:59 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport

Hi there,

Does anyone know anything about transport?  I am trying to get these 2
FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no
one has yet).  I do not know the first thing about it.  Often our
adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and
time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+
cats first.

Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!

Please help Trooper!

And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that
they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.

- Nathan Winograd

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Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

2011-01-21 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Wow, where do you live?!? That is freaking high!

-Original Message-
From: Emeraldkittee [] 
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

I think so, but that's the norm around here.  
$105 total blood panel
$225 IFA
$225 Western Blot
$34 urine test/cystocentsis
$17 fecal
$50 exam
I think I just figured out why I don't get to Hawaii much   ;)
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Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

2011-01-20 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? 

See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give 
the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you 
take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the 
sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. :-(

Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you like... 
(haha! Just kidding ;-))

-Original Message-
From: Emeraldkittee [] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative 
has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV.  She can't take him because of 
the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch.  We've 
had a few conversations.  I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen 
a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, 
gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's 
behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never 
attacks the other cats.  The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed 
perfect health.  There's never been an IFA or Western Blot.  
I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their 
health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly 
use their vet.  She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 
'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she 
doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I 
offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'.  It's not a problem 
with this home, because I am invited there.

When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like 
carriers and might need a shot to be sedated.  That wasn't mentioned the first 
few conversations.
Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me.  I know this person is 
overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT.  I am 
going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why 
would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an 
adoption?  She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know 
about doing this.
I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical 
conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to 
see what's going on.  I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she 
originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have 
a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story?  How can I best 
Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-20 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
There's a book by a Dr. Nicholas Dodman called The Cat Who Cried For Help 
that has a chapter on feline aggression- it may not be the absolute answer for 
Blizzard (or others), but it is informative and it may help... :-) 

-Original Message-
From: LauraM [] 
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

Thank you, Dana, I will try this. I'm desperate and Blizzard is a good cat, I 
just can't understand why he is the way he is.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-16 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Glad to hear it Alice! Thank you for taking the black kitty, too. I used
to dream of having a house full of black cats, because I love them so
much... Well, be careful what you ask for! The day before Easter I
trapped a feral black kitty (under a year old), and of course it turned
out to be female, and of course she turned out to be pregnant! And of
COURSE (!!!) she had all black babies, and only one of them has been
adopted so far. So along with the two black kitties I already had (not
to mention the ones of other colors!), I now have 7 black kitties at my
house. [pulls hair out] They are very sweet (even the mama has warmed up
nicely), but at 6 months old, it's getting harder and harder to find
them homes... :-(


-Original Message-
From: Lorrie [] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

Thank you for adopting these kitties, Alice.  I rescue cats and get a
lot of feral kittens with eye infections. Miso was a lucky boy to
find you.  Your black kitty is very lucky too. I have a dreadful time
finding homes for black cats and kittens, and I don't know why. We have
4 black cats and they are all so lovable.   We have 14 cats at home
now.. All colors sizes and shapes and we love them all, but there is
something special about those black ones!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-07 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Sue, my brother and I both have had FELV+ cats that lived to be 17 --
and this was back in the day before the current treatments were

-Original Message-
From: Sander, Sue [] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative

It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does
anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell
me.  I want to have hope.

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[Felvtalk] OT- Homeless cat in NYC needs shelter for winter/ permanent home!

2010-11-08 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I don't know how many of you are on Facebook, but a friend of mine shared this 
photo album of a homeless tortie and white kitty in NYC:
This is what the girl who posted it says:
I see this girl every day when I'm walking. She's super friendly and always 
comes over to talk to me. Whoever is taking care of her has given her a box 
with some blankets in it and food and water, but when it rains the box is soggy 
and stays that way. With winter coming up, I'd like to find her a real home and 
I'm unable to take her. Can anyone in the NYC area help? I don't have a car, so 
transporting on my end might be difficult but I'll do whatever I can to help if 
someone else can help her.
I live in South Cakkalakkie, so getting to NYC is a bit of a problem... (haha) 
I don't share any friends with the girl who posted the album (Sara Pegarella), 
but it is possible for anyone to send her a message.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV

2010-09-28 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Anndrea- try some Stage One baby foods (beef, chicken, ham, etc.) that just 
have meat in them- I mix a 3 ounce jar with 3 ounces of hot tap water, mix it 
up well, and they will lap it up. And with the canned food, try mixing it with 
hot water also. Mash it up good, so that it's all liquid. She may just not 
feel like chewing. I feel like that sometimes :-)

-Original Message-
From: A D [] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:25 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV

Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, 
female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running 
around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥

Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day
(9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their 
normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she 
is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following 
Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine 
is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a 
bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L).

I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to 
drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up 
their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came 
back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she 
would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed 

When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food.
She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry 
food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the 
kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle 
left. She has always been skinny, but not like this.

Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know 
that has something to do with her liver not working right.

Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something 
like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L 

Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we 
know if she has pain? 

The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the 
week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get 
her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple 
months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that 
some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a 
little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t 
much hope. So hard to watch.

At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if 
she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a 
seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be 
time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to 
survive…ya know?

Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very 
hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to 
deal with it.


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan

2010-09-27 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Thanks, y'all!

-Original Message-
From: Cougar Clan [] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan

I use it on oak and pine floors and have had no problem.
On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:15 PM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote:

 Is it ok for hardwood floors?

 -Original Message-
 From: Cougar Clan []
 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan

 There is a milky gallon bottle at Sams that is a concentrate for about

 $10.  There is a spray bottle (not concentrate) at some WalMarts.  I 
 am sure the other is fine but probably over priced.
 On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Natalie wrote:

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan

2010-09-24 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Is it ok for hardwood floors?

-Original Message-
From: Cougar Clan [] 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan

There is a milky gallon bottle at Sams that is a concentrate for about
$10.  There is a spray bottle (not concentrate) at some WalMarts.  I am
sure the other is fine but probably over priced.
On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Natalie wrote:

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Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

2010-09-07 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Laura, give me her contact information and I'll tell her what you couldn't. I 
have a vocabulary that would make a sailor blush!

From: LauraM []
Sent: Sat 9/4/2010 8:05 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend

OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few 
incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and really 
made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as disposable 
property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An inconvenience, to be 
tossed aside when necessary.
First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport that 
must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die there, 
and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI called our 
animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up. Turns out, it 
was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get hit! - same old 
story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem, doesn't want a vet 
bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about it and goes about her 
day. My officer told her, This is your responsibility, not mine - you get that 
cat to a vet. Later on, the caller once again rang up animal control: If I 
have a cat that's been hit by a car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what 
don't you understand - this is your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE 
Then, later, the door opened and a  young woman came in with a cat in a crate. 
He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues with his 
teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some other stuff. 
I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave her some phone 
numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the cost of treatment. 
Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize him on Tuesday. I 
tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to get her to understand 
that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a place with strangers, to 
sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be tossed in a black trash bag 
and thrown into the dump like garbage. Naturally, she had no money - but if 
you're a good client, chances are your vet will euthanize for free or next to 
nothing; my vet has never charged me to euthanize an animal. And she had months 
to prepare for this, but
 she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of course, 
like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she said to me, 
I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so badly to follow 
her out the door, slap her face  tell her what I thought of her, but I need my 
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this 
attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in shelters 
or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking about. Someone 
will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after your mistakes, so 
why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident surrendered 4 kittens 
last week and called today to ask if they'd been adopted. They had all gone out 
to a rescue. After hollering, Praise Jesus! They're safe! she asked me, So, 
the next time I have kittens, should I call this rescue directly or do I have 
to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't let them be born! Come here on euthanasia 
day and then ask yourself if you should be producing more kittens!
Thanks for letting me vent.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Great story of taming feral cats Japanese style viatreehugger

2010-07-19 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Wow, I wonder how many people lost fingers trying to touch the cats
through the cages! (haha)

-Original Message-
From: dana giordano [] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Great story of taming feral cats Japanese style

I know some of you work with feral cat communities and wanted to pass
this on.

I thought this story was pretty great. They call it cat rehab. A
surprising and unexpected way to deal with a feral cats killing actual
endangered species.

Check it out!



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Re: [Felvtalk] hemobartonella and possible FeLV interested party in NY!

2010-07-19 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Rachel- my Felv cat had hemobartonella, and was put on doxycycline for a
month- it has cleared up completely.

-Original Message-
From: [] 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:17 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] hemobartonella and possible FeLV interested party in

I have 2 questions! One fl\or Paola and one for Beth. Paola, I would
love to know who in NY is even somewhat interested in an FeLV+ cat as I
have one who may or may not need a home and I just brought 2 kittens to
a sanctuary yesterday, and I owuld love for them to have a real home (I
live in NY). Also, Beth, I just had my rescue cat who has FeLV diagnosed
today with hemobartonella and I have a really bad feeling about it. She
is not eating well, is depressed, lost 1.5 lbs in a little over a month
(and she was skinny before). She was 5.5lbs and is now 4 lbs. I'm really
worried and sad for her and I want to do all I can to help, but I don't
want to make her suffer, and I have three of my own cats to worry about
plus all the other rescues. This is getting very costly! So if you know
of something that might help the hemobartonella, please let me know!
Thanks Rachel

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself

2010-07-07 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Ana, my cat Clara Bow also had (has) anemia (and is FeLV+). I took her
in for a second opinion (and possible transfusion), and was told that
she may have hemobartonella. A test confirmed this, and she was put on
doxycycline. A week after the antibiotics were started, her hematocrit
went from 13% up to 22%. She has been on it for 2 weeks now, and has 2
more weeks to go (much to her chagrin!). You might want to ask your vet
to test for it. Clara's hemobartonella infection was so rampant, it
showed up on the CBC!

Keep us posted...

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From: Ana Gutierrez [] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself

Dear Natalie,

Thanks for your answer.
The diagnose was based on an ELISA, she showed FeLV+. How can I tell if
also has regular leukemia? Which analysis needs to be done?
Thanks for forwading my mail to your vet. I'm looking forward to read

Best wishes,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat

2010-06-22 Thread POTT, BEVERLY

-Original Message-
From: [] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:07 AM
Cc: Gloria B. Lane
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat

2010-06-14 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Gloria, I took in a blind and deaf cat a couple of years ago (I think she could 
see shadows, maybe)- she was 18, and her owner was moving to Chicago and 
didn't want to be bothered with her- she was going to be put to sleep if no one 
took her, so of course Crazy Cat Lady here came to the rescue. I kept Smudge in 
her own room for a couple of months, and then let her out in the rest of the 
house. She got around fine and none of my other cats bothered her (well, my 16 
year old cat Pokey would hiss at her. Of course, Smudge couldn't hear her 
hissing, haha). They usually moved out of the way when they saw her coming. She 
learned where the beds were and made herself right at home. 

From: Gloria B. Lane []
Sent: Sun 6/13/2010 9:11 AM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat

I just took in a blind-deaf cat, was one of 25 or so in a lady's 
house.  The lady became disabled, developed dementia, and our rescue 
took some of her cats.  This one first was taken to the city animal 
services, developed a URI, got about over it, was altered, tested and 
shots, and we pulled him.

He (?) was transferred to a different cage, then to my carrier, then 
to my home and a large cage.   He's not too friendly, although I can 
at times pet him on the head and scratch his ears.  We think it's just 
because of the changes in his life, that he just doesn't know what's 
going on and if he needs to defend himself.  I haven't had a blind or 
deaf cat before.

Does anyone know of a rescue that will take a blind-deaf cat?  I found 
one in North Carolina, but I'm in Arkansas.

Thanks very much,


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ)

2010-05-19 Thread POTT, BEVERLY Hope that works!

-Original Message-
From: MaryChristine [] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist

so what's bob's facebook linky?

Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue
Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ)

2010-05-18 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
My cat Bob has a Facebook page, and just posted the link on there- he's
got over 600 friends, and I'm pretty sure some of them live in that area

-Original Message-
From: dana giordano [] 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:07 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ)

Hi, I haven't posted anything yet, just keeping up with the list.

I saw this posting on craigslist for a FeLV positive cat needing a home.
don't work for the rescue or anything and I can't take in another cat. I
just thought it was worth a shot to post it on here. I know you all care
about your kitties very much.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv

2010-04-19 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
My cat Charlie would probably scarf it down... :-S

-Original Message-
From: Gloria B. Lane [] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv

Good luck feeding your cats dandelions with cheese and jalapeno sauce...

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Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations

2010-03-05 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Hey Laurie- have you ever considered putting up bat houses? That may keep them 
out of the house :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Laurieskatz []
Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
Thank-you to all who responded. GREAT help! I loved the KY vet link and the
thoughts about a holistic remedy to be used if vaccinating. I talked to my
vet and he does have the purevax. He prefers the 3 year adjuvanted rabies
but will use the purevax. He also has the internasal distemper. He said it
is up to me what we do. He also mentioned, as did several people here, that
the law and vet hospitalization require rabies. My dilemma there is, if they
are sick enough to be hospitalized, they will be too sick to be vaccinated
if they are not already vaccinated. My vet recommends agst titer testing. He
said it is not accurate. Another vet did do titer testing on Frankie and
found he was still covered for some of the distemper diseases but not all.
We have had bats in the house twice. That is probably my biggest worry. I do
think the entries have all been closed but we do live in the woods and they
like to sleep behind our shutters.
I am still undecided about the vaccines, but I am better informed~
Laurie and tribe  

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Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations

2010-03-05 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Well, maybe you could put it way out in the woods on a tree... (haha)
Sorry to hear about the rabies shots- ouch!

-Original Message-
From: Laurieskatz [] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations

As a matter of fact, I have! 
I worried that it might attract MORE bats.not sure what the outcome
would be.
I do love bats and, of course, let the last one out (my cats killed the
first one and I only found body parts).  Because the second one was in
bedroom area, we all had to have the rabies series of shots! There was a
presumption we'd been bitten. If there is a next time I won't tell

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Virginia Clemans article regarding FelineLeukemiaViirus

2010-02-11 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
My brother and I have both had Feleuk+ cats who lived to be 17, and we never 
did anything special to prolong their lifespans- this was a little before the 
current options were made available to Joe Blow. Perhaps I should mail her as 

From: Elizabeth Malone []
Sent: Wed 2/10/2010 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Virginia Clemans article regarding 

I did write to her. I have the exact same email. I told her about my boy who
lived for 8 years with this virus. I truly believe she just isn't willing to
look anyone else's opinion other than this Dr. Mike. It really is sad for
the many that have worked so diligently to provide education about this

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Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

2009-12-11 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Noodles and ninja stars- that's hilarious! Made me LOL for real. I've
had a few like that in my day. And a female like that now. God forbid
she should ever need pilling.


-Original Message-
From: Diane Rosenfeldt [] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries

We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very
mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In
contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets
sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his
consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session
carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need
life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you was nice knowing you. (I
suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a
option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there
he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. 

Diane R.

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Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09

2009-08-14 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I'm sorry, Sharyl :-(

-Original Message-
From: Sharyl [] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09

I had to make that last vet trip with my dear sweet Mattie today.  She
lost the use of her back legs last week due to neurological issues from
the FeLV.  The paralysis spread and she had lost bladder and bowel
control.  She was still eating and grooming herself but I couldn't wait
until she was suffering.  She deserved better than that.  She fell
asleep in my arms from the sedative and never felt the 2nd shot.

Even though blind since birth she was the most inquisitive kitten I've
ever had.  No challenge was too great for her.  She is the last of a
litter of 4 positive babies I rescued last summer.  What amazes me is
that their mom and 3 aunts, all positives and now spayed, are still
doing fine.  

All I can say is Mattie had a wonderful 12 months wanting for nothing
and teaching me so much.  I learned not to let a handicap limit me.  It
sure didn't limit her love of life.   She is now at the Rainbow Bridge
with Bright Eyes, Houdini, and CJ.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

2009-08-14 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Yes, my vet gives me the ace whenever it's that time... 

Before, I have had a few who would really perk up on the way to the
vet's office, as if to say, I'm not sick, look at me! I can run circles
around you! And THAT makes it really hard! My cat Benjamin (FeLeuk+)
had been going slowly downhill for a couple of years (we think he was
about 17 at the end)- and it had gotten to the point where he couldn't
make it to the litter box anymore and was very weak. So we cried and
drove down to the vet's office, and he started acting like a kitten
again. We turned around and brought him back home, where he scampered
all over the house, played with toys, had an appetite again, etc.
Several days later, though, he was back where he started, and we took
him to the vet's again. Again he perked up in the car, but we knew it
was time. :-( That was really hard.

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From: Lorrie [] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

Yes, watching them struggle or gasp for breath is just unbearable.
I've used Klonopin to ease the fear or struggle when a cat is dying.
It really helps and it is used for cats because I checked with my
vet.  It's like Valium.  Have any of you used this for dying cats? 
I have a prescription for myself, so I always have it on hand. Ace
promazine would have to be gotten from a vet wouldn't it??

We all hope our furry ones will died peacefully at home, preferably
in their sleep, but as you said, it seldom happens that way. Same for
people. We all hope to die peacefully at home.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

2009-08-13 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I have given cats ace promazine in situations like that, before I take
them to the vet to be put to sleep. That way, they aren't stressed out
from going there, and don't end up wasting away for days or weeks on
end. I've often wished that a cat would pass away in his/ her sleep, so
that I wouldn't have to take them in (of course that never happens), but
it's just too painful to watch them gasping for breath, or trying to
walk and falling down, etc. Just my personal opinion...

-Original Message-
From: Lorrie [] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

Dear Friends,  I have a difficult decision to make, and I hope you
can help...  I have several FelV cats at a shelter I have in
town. Most remain in good health by all appearances, however one 8
year old female has been steadily losing weight, she is now very
anemic; extremely emaciatedm and she stopped eating two days ago. She
will still lick a bit of baby food from my fingers, and she is still
drinking water, but this is all. I know she is probably going to die
soon, but I want her to die in familiar surroundings where she is
loved, rather than having to make a trip to the vet which is always
terrifying for cats. The vets here will not come out to see or
euthanize a sick cat.

This cat does not appear to be in any pain. She has no tumors, nor
neurogical symptoms, but I know she will soon die from the anemia.
I do not believe in extending the life of a cat who has a terminal
illness, therefore I will not put her through transfusions or heroic
measures.  If I had a terminal illness I would not wish this for

What I'm asking is this I'm sure some of you have had anemic
FelV cats and I want to know if dying from anemia is painful.  If so
I will have her put to sleep. Even though I know the trip to the vet
will be frightening for her... I do not want her to suffer.

Thank you for your help,


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Re: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks

2009-04-27 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
I, too, live in SC, and have found that Revolution works wonders on my
cats for keeping things under control... Unfortunately it doesn't kill
tapeworms, but it does kill roundworms and hookworms. I am lucky enough
to have a vet that will sell me the Droncit without seeing the animals.


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From: [] 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks

I have an outbreak of fleas on my eight felv+ cats brought home by my
dogs who like to run away every chance they get. I need to worm all my  
kitties .Can someone recommend worm med's that I can buy without a
 I can't afford to take all of them to a vet at one time. I also have to

buy flea  med's I'm thinking Frontline. I've never had much of a problem
parasites  until this spring. Please help. 
 Sheila in SC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook?

2009-03-26 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
My cat Bob is on there (haha)- Bob TheTomato is his name, is 
the email addresses he uses...
P.S. My name is Beverly, btw- I've never contributed to the discussion, but I 
do get a lot out of reading it :-)

From: Sally Davis []
Sent: Thu 3/26/2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook?

HI Kelley and Belinda,

I sent both of you friend invites.


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