Re: [Felvtalk] FDA Increases Total Individual Award Amount for Minor Use/Minor Species Grants

2019-06-16 Thread Pam Doore
That sure would be nice!


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Lorraine Johnston  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps there will be additional funding for FeLV research resulting from 
> this change.
>  
> - Lorraine
>  
>  
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> FDA Increases Total Individual Award Amount for Minor Use/Minor Species Grants
>  
>  
> Application period opens June 14, 2019
>  
> The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today announced an open period for 
> applications for grants to support the development and approval or 
> conditional approval of new animal drugs intended to treat uncommon diseases 
> (minor uses) in major species (horses, dogs, cats, cattle, pigs, turkeys and 
> chickens) or to treat minor species (MUMS). The individual award amount has 
> been increased to a single funding level up to $250,000.
>  
> The Minor Use and Minor Species Animal Health Act of 2004 (the MUMS act) 
> provides innovative ways to bring products to market for these small 
> populations and is designed to help veterinary pharmaceutical companies and 
> others overcome the financial roadblocks they face in providing animal drugs 
> for a limited market. Before this legislation, veterinary pharmaceutical 
> companies and others would rarely attempt to bring such drugs to market. The 
> MUMS act established the grant program.
>  
> Grants awarded through the MUMS program support the FDA’s continuing mission 
> to assure that safe and effective animal drugs are available for a wide range 
> of species and conditions.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +

2019-06-11 Thread Pam Doore
You have my deepest sympathy Patricia!  I am so so sorry!

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On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM Patricia Oliveira 
wrote:

> Yesterday hospital called me saying Nori could come home. I went there
> after work and, while i waited for prescriptions, she started a seizure.
>
> Vet medicated her so that seizure didn´t complete (diazepam and mannitol).
>
> I stayed with her sometime, talked to her but i felt it was a farewell.
>
> When i arrive at home, vet called me to say Nori had a cardiopulmonary
> arrest. They reanimated her but it could happen again.
>
> Less then 30 minutes later, they called me again to say Nori had passed
> away.
>
> As always happens here, when a cat has seizures, brazilian veterinarians
> says it is fip.
>
> I don´t know what she really had, i am very sorrow for didn´t bring her
> home on sunday, when she was better. At least, she would have had one more
> day at home, with sun bath and love.
>
> I want to thank all of you. You were the best support i could find for
> Nori.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> Patrícia
>
> Em ter, 11 de jun de 2019 às 00:22, Amani Oakley 
> escreveu:
>
>> We’re all pulling for Nori.
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk  * On Behalf Of *Ardy
>> Robertson
>> *Sent:* June 10, 2019 11:21 PM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all – I’m following Nori’s progress and please know, I’m keeping
>> her in my thoughts and prayers too, hoping the Stanizolol/Doxy/Prednisolone
>> combo works for her. She has chosen her owners well, thank you for taking
>> such good care of her. And thanks Amani for the good advice as always.
>>
>> Ardy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk  *On Behalf Of *Amani
>> Oakley
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:23 PM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>>
>>
>>
>> One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous
>> fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for now, it
>> makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the IV
>> fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn’t take much
>> to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats
>> whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some
>> extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal
>> cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori.
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Patricia
>> Oliveira
>> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>>
>>
>>
>> She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives
>> external heating too.
>>
>>
>>
>> They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and heart
>> rate several times a day.
>>
>> I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with
>> fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley 
>> escreveu:
>>
>> Patricia
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good
>> news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good news
>> on the rosy gingiva.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have had a
>> bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one another as
>> a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a stack
>> of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is
>> consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means anything right now
>> other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells).
>>
>>
>>
>> I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is
>> likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the
>> transfusion, she was active and eating on her own.
>>
>>
>>
>> Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact on
>> the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall that
>> with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the
>> platelets recovered.
>>
>>
>>
>> I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature up.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She
>> is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given time
>> to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food and
>> medication to start to work. I don’t know how a 

Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +

2019-06-09 Thread Pam Doore
That is great news about Nori!

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On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Patricia Oliveira 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have experience with subqs.
>
> Nori is really better today! She ate 2 dishes of wet food while i was
> there. She is more active and attentive to what happens.
>
> Neurologist said Nori has a deficiency on the left side of the body, as if
> she had a stroke. It can be because of anemia, an inflammation or even
> malnutrition.
>
> Vet added a brain supplement (MCT's) to Nori's prescription.
>
> Fip isn't discarded but felv also justify this condition so I hope she has
> nothing more.
>
> Vets said maybe Nori can come home tomorrow :)
>
> Thank you!
>
> Patrícia
>
>
> Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 23:23, Amani Oakley 
> escreveu:
>
>> One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous
>> fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for now, it
>> makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the IV
>> fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn’t take much
>> to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats
>> whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some
>> extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal
>> cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori.
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk  * On Behalf Of 
>> *Patricia
>> Oliveira
>> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>>
>>
>>
>> She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives
>> external heating too.
>>
>>
>>
>> They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and heart
>> rate several times a day.
>>
>> I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with
>> fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley 
>> escreveu:
>>
>> Patricia
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good
>> news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good news
>> on the rosy gingiva.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have had a
>> bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one another as
>> a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a stack
>> of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is
>> consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means anything right now
>> other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells).
>>
>>
>>
>> I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is
>> likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the
>> transfusion, she was active and eating on her own.
>>
>>
>>
>> Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact on
>> the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall that
>> with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the
>> platelets recovered.
>>
>>
>>
>> I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature up.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She
>> is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given time
>> to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food and
>> medication to start to work. I don’t know how a neurological diagnosis
>> could help you now, and one would expect the neurologist will have a
>> difficult time seeing a true neurological deficit, with all the rest of the
>> stuff happening.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her to be with
>> you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, you might
>> consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he reacted most
>> strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to play a little bit
>> and that made him feel better, and of course, lots of cuddles and kisses.
>>
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Patricia
>> Oliveira
>> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 8:52 PM
>> *To:* Sandra Wachtstetter ;
>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Sandra  :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I visited Nori today. The hospital is in another city so I can't go there
>> every day.
>>
>>
>>
>> She is a rosy gingiva, but continues to sleep most of the time and with a
>> low temperature. One of the veterinarians there thinks that temperature is
>> lower because of malnutrition, she 

Re: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV

2019-03-25 Thread Pam Doore

A friend had a negative with a reoccurring fever that at one point to 106.7 .  
The kitty finally responded to Clindamyacin.  Up until the Clindamyacin worked 
the vet thought they were dealing with dry FIP.  

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Pam Doore  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 3:04 PM Jennifer Stertzer  <mailto:jennifer.stert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello,  We are in the midst of dealing with a FELV outbreak in our household. 
>  Several months ago, we learned our new kitten was FELV positive; however, by 
> that time three other cats had been infected.  Since Feb., we have lost two 
> cats and the third is not doing well.  I have been reading the mail archives 
> and have shared info with my vet, but I am now at a loss about what net steps 
> to take.  At the beginning of March, Abram started to act differently - not 
> interested in food (which is unusual), lethargic, and skittish.  We took him 
> to the vet and discovered he also had a fever.  The vet gave him an injection 
> of Convenia and put him on Onsior.  He did start eating again, but remained 
> lethargic and skittish.  We took him back to the vet last week for blood 
> work, which all came back fine.  He also still had a fever so he went back on 
> Onsior.  I should also mention that we started him on Interferon in mid-March 
> and just started his second 7-day treatment.  His symptoms remain - 
> lethargic, skittish, and feeling slightly feverish.  I called the vet today 
> and the only thing they can think to do is another injection of Convenia and 
> round of Onsior.  The vet said that most likely this all relates to FELV and 
> ultimately there’s not much to be done.  Of course, I don’t want to believe 
> that.  Has any one else had a FELV cat with persistent fever?  Can T-CYTE be 
> used in conjunction with Interferon? Any ideas?  We just can’t bear to lose 
> another one of our loves to this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.  Best, 
> Jennifer
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV

2019-03-01 Thread Pam Doore
That has always been my email signature.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 4:11 PM Lorrie  wrote:

> >
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> > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. **St. Patrick*
>
> This is a group for feline leukemia, not a religious group.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?

2019-03-01 Thread Pam Doore
Yes that is worth a try if your pharmacist will do that.  NYS requires a
script for compounding and they don't compound anything we bring into them
i.e. cat is given pills, cat won't take pills, they can't compound those
pills into something they will take, they need a script from vet and then
will get all ingredients and compound to a liquid, trans-dermal, etc.

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On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:22 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON 
wrote:

> Back in 2014 I purchased just 5 or so capsules of a human anti-cancer drug
> for Chewy Joey, who had an aggressive lymphoma/leukemia. The compounding
> pharmacy nearby was able to titrate those down into many capsules
> containing a cat-size dose. So that's something I might try.
>
>
> -Lorraine
>
> On March 1, 2019 at 11:13 AM Pam Doore  wrote:
>
> You are welcome :-D
>
>
> ~~@~@~@~@~@
>
> *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
> Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — * *St. Patrick*
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON <
> johnston1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Pam and Ardy.
>
>
> -Lorraine
>
> On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson < ar...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
> Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back
> Drugs in Arizona.
>
>
>
> Ardy Robertson
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk  *On Behalf Of *Pam
> Doore
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
> Truvada?
>
>
>
> I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to
> get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me
> to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also
> Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be
> associated with your vet''s practice.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the
> antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> - Lorraine
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?

2019-03-01 Thread Pam Doore
You are welcome :-D

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On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON 
wrote:

> Thank you, Pam and Ardy.
>
>
> -Lorraine
>
> On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson 
> wrote:
>
> Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back
> Drugs in Arizona.
>
>
>
> Ardy Robertson
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk  *On Behalf Of *Pam
> Doore
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
> Truvada?
>
>
>
> I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to
> get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me
> to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also
> Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be
> associated with your vet''s practice.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the
> antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> - Lorraine
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?

2019-02-28 Thread Pam Doore
I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to get
a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me to
be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also Vets
First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be
associated with your vet''s practice.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the
> antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> - Lorraine
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Baby's intro

2019-02-24 Thread Pam Doore
Great :-D!

Have a blessed day!

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On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:41 AM Lorraine Johnston 
wrote:

> Thank you. I’ve shared your info with my cousin.
>
>
>
> - Lorraine
>
>
>
> "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the
> things no one can imagine."  - Alan Turing
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:18 PM
> *To:* Sandra Wachtstetter; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Baby's intro
>
>
>
> Boy I t blab a lot, don’t I?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk  *On Behalf Of *Sandra
> Wachtstetter
> *Sent:* February 21, 2019 9:54 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Baby's intro
>
>
>
> Lorraine - I am part of the group and have the following into - from Amani
> - so you can see a bit more
>
> *From:* Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* June-10-18 3:22 PM
> *To:* 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
> *Subject:* RE: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
>
> What a very sad story about your blind cat. I understand your heart break.
> I too have placed cats into what I thought were excellent homes, only to
> have a sad, and an unnecessarily tragic outcome. I have probably adopted
> out close to 400 cats in the time my husband and I have been rescuing cats.
> Thankfully, most of the time, people are just really happy to return a cat
> to me if things aren’t working out, but I know only too well that once out
> of my hands, you’re at the mercy of what someone else thinks is the right
> thing to do.
>
> Your email to FeLV talk goes out to everyone on the list at the same time.
> I will often answer regarding FeLV because I was lucky enough to have
> stumbled on a medication protocol (which I was calling Zander’s protocol)
> which treated my Zander’s FeLV when EVERYTHING else had failed. *I used
> to be a medical lab technologist, so lab results are key to me.* When
> trying Zander on the various medications that were suggested as assisting
> with FeLV, I got weekly bloodwork done and would study the results to see
> which direction his bloodwork was going. Nothing worked at all (Interferon,
> LTCI, combo of prednisone/Doxy) and I kept him alive with several blood
> transfusions. When that was no longer an option because he had had a
> reaction during his last blood transfusion and the next one would kill him,
> I rummaged around in my drawer of cat meds, and had nothing else at all to
> try but figured what the hell and tried him on Winstrol (Stanazalol) which
> I thought might at least keep him eating and maybe keep him alive a bit
> longer. To my complete and utter amazement and disbelief, after just a few
> days on Winstrol, his ivory white gums and inner ears (signs of his
> profound anemia) started showing a slight pinkish blush. The next blood
> work (a few days later) showed the first uptick in hematocrit that I had
> seen with him since the FeLV crisis had begun, which was not brought on by
> the artificial increase in red cells from his transfusions.
>
> I kept him on the combination of prednisone/doxycycline/winstrol for more
> than a year, while his hematocrit climbed from 10 and back into the normal
> reference range of 25 to 45. Every time I tried to stop or reduce the
> dosage of winstrol, his blood results would show an immediate drop in red
> cells and hematocrit, so even though his liver enzymes went way up (the
> reason Winstrol had fallen out of favour with the vets), I really had no
> choice but to continue since the vets had nothing else to offer me and the
> alternative was he was going to die from the FeLV infection. He recovered
> fully, looked marvelous and amazing, ate well, and his liver enzymes went
> right back to normal once I discontinued the Winstrol – something like 10
> months later.
>
> No one seemed to know this combination, and the vets I spoke with seemed
> wary or suspicious that this combination would indeed be helpful in FeLV
> (except mine – who had of course seen the weekly blood work showing a slow
> and steady rise in red cells and ultimately, in white cells and platelets,
> until his entire hematological profile looked perfectly fine). At the time,
> I was understandably extremely excited by the effects of the Winstrol and I
> believe that the Winstrol was able to cause the production of new bone
> marrow cells (something it has been found to do in osteoporotic women) and
> thus, new cells which could produce the red cells. *However, I now also
> think that the combination worked because the Doxycycline was able to
> retard or slow down the viral replication, to allow the red cell production
> to move ahead with less risk that the FeLV would attack the new bone marrow
> cells. I have been told that the prednisone helps protect the liver from
> the 

Re: [Felvtalk] Batman Felv Positive Having Neurological issues.

2018-10-22 Thread Pam Doore
Kelly did they check him for a blood clot. There is a specific kind that
happens middle of the back. I believe it is called a Saddleback due to the
location and they come on very suddenly.

I have had a neurological issue with one of my babies but it affects her
eyes. her pupils are not the same size and when they did her neurological
exam at the local that's office her reaction time on her right side was
slower than on her left side and that right pupil is alays razer thin no
matter what the light is.

She also had an episode this summer when it was super hot that she had a
head tilt drooling and stumbling by the time I got her to the vet she had
been in a cold car long enough to fully recover.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 12:24 PM katy brown  wrote:

> Hello,
> I have an amazing cat named Batman who a year ago as a kitten tested
> positive for FelV. His brother also texted positive, after 2 other tests
> later on after the antibodies from the mother had cleared, Batman still
> tested positive while his brother was negative.
>
> Fast forward a year and both of them were doing great. I was away on
> vacation and left them with a full time cat sitter, who notice about a week
> ago that Batman was not going up stairs as much, but we figured this could
> be to him just adjusting to a new person in his home. When I arrived back
> home I immediately noticed he was not moving well and as the day progressed
> he was losing more mobility in his front paws. I took him to the emergency
> room where they thought he had experienced a trauma, and discharged him
> with 2 types of pain meds. The pain meds were a disaster, and he lost
> further mobility. From there we took him to Pennsylvania Vet. Hospital,
> which is supposed to be one of the best in the country, they realized he
> was having neurological issues, did a bunch of testing, his vitals and
> blood work were all good. An x-ray revealed no masses in his chest or
> spine. At this point they felt it was a cancer in his column, most likely
> lymphoma. The Vet thought that he was quite young even given his FeLV
> positive status to have lymphoma, but given how fast he was becoming
> completely paralyzed, there were not many other diagnosis that fit the
> bill. The vet started him on Prednisolone and Clindamycin, and within hours
> he regained movement in his legs and was walking again. Yesterday he was
> jumping and scratching on his post again, and eating and drinking. Last
> night his behavior changed and he kept trying to hide which is very unlike
> him, however I thought that maybe he was just tired, he had gone from
> completely paralyzed to jumping in 3 days. But this morning it was apparent
> that he was not ok, he did eat after much encouragement, but has moved very
> very little. I have called the Vet and am waiting to hear back but I'm not
> optimistic. Has anyone had this experience? I don't want to put him down if
> there is a chance he could come back but he is hardly moving and seems like
> him trying to hide was him trying to find a place to pass away
> quietly. Batman is so young and he is the sweetest cat I have ever owned,
> and his brother can't get along with out him.  I will try anything to keep
> him alive but I want him to have a good quality life. Any suggestions would
> be appreciated.
>
> Also I apologize if I did not use this forum correctly. I wasn't sure if I
> emailed the group or how it works so I hope this does work.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Reconstituted Doxy

2018-05-13 Thread Pam Doore
We usually  givery Doxycycline liquid at the shelter. If given in pill form
water has to be forced down throat as well because of issues with damage to
esophagus.

I have never heard of doxy as a chewy treat. That is great. My default is
transdermal :-).

On Sun, May 13, 2018, 2:22 PM ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:

> My recollection re: the stand against Doxy Tabs is that they are often
> large and hard to get all the way down the cats throat without getting
> stuck   I DO apologize that it's been so long since I was giving my
> cats Doxy in pill form successfully( had found a coated small pill)
> but... if you can afford it ...diamondback drugs can formulate tasty
> chewies with Doxy that many cats love ( mine ate them down with relish)
> Believe Sandy might be able to weigh in on this?? Don't have
> experience with liquid form... but be assured there iis always a way a
> drug can be administered to a cat... if one has the time, ability and
> funds   The chewies are not cheap
>
> Bob in Warwick NY
>
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> >1. Re: Anemia and Aranesp (Maribel Piloto)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 01:43:43 -0400
> > From: Maribel Piloto
>
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia and Aranesp
> > Message-ID: <4371704d-888f-47a3-9163-24187c493...@bellsouth.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi Amani and everyone else who?s been helping me with this post - I
> > shared the recommended drug protocol with a friend of mine who isn?t a
> > vet but has worked for years in animal rescue and has also worked at
> > both the local Humane Society and the local county shelter.  She also
> > attends a lot of vet conferences.  She sent me the following...
> >
> >> If your vet is willing to prescribe this regimen, I'd give it a try
> >> with one CRITICAL CHANGE.  NEVER use doxycycline tablets/capsules
> >> with cats as doxy can cause esophageal strictures.  You can get
> >> compounded doxycycline is 50 mg/ml, so dose would be 0.4 - 0.5 ml
> >> twice a day.
> >
> > Do you foresee any issues with using the Doxy in liquid format?   I
> > also wanted to get the Prednisolone in liquid as Flaqui is very
> > difficult to pill.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Maribel
> > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
> > treated."
> > -Mohandas Ghandi
> >
> >> On May 10, 2018, at 11:02 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank you Sandy. You saved me from repeating what I have posted so
> >> very often now.
> >>  Mirabel, regarding the Aranesp, it is a product which mimics the
> >> effects of erythropoietin. I do not believe it will assist because
> >> erythropoietin tells the bone marrow to produce more red cells. With
> >> FeLV, it infects the cells in the bone marrow which produce all three
> >> cell lines (red cells, white cells, platelets). The cells are taken
> >> over and destroyed by the virus, which means that the bone marrow can
> >> no longer produce red cells, white cells and/or platelets. The
> >> erythropoietin or Aranesp is speaking to these cells and telling them
> >> to churn out more red cells, but the bone marrow cells can no longer
> >> do that. My experience with the Winstrol is that after my cat had the
> >> very worst results (HAEMATOCRIT OF FIVE!!!, ZERO % RETICULOCYTES,
> >> etc.) and AFTER I had given him several bouts of blood transfusions,
> >> the Winstrol turned back on the bone marrow and he began producing
> >> red cells, white cells and platelets again.
> >>  Amani
> >>  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Sandy
> >> Sent: May-10-18 8:48 PM
> >> To: Maribel Piloto; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia and Aranesp
> >>  This is long because I just copied this whole conversation - but
> >> your answer lies in this combination of drugs - make no mistake this
> >> will work if your vet will give it a try - there is nothing to lose -
> >> BUT you and the vet need to act immediately. - good luck. You will
> >> probably get more responses - Sandy W
> >>
> >>
> >> Winstrol ? 1 mg twice a day
> >>
> >> Doxycycline ? 1/5 to ? tablet (100 mg) twice a day
> >>
> >> Prednisolone ? ? 5 mg tablet, twice 

Re: [Felvtalk] Maynard-Tabby Boy

2018-04-23 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Mirna, I would recommend not doing any more vaccines until kitty is
strong and healthy :-).  I pray for the best for you and Maynard.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 7:03 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

> Hi Mirna
>
>
>
> It is a bit difficult to determine why your little boy may be having
> seizures.
>
>
>
> With all the things he has on board (FeLV, possible worms, infection, not
> eating) I would contemplate that some of his levels (like calcium or
> magnesium) may be low. Try getting these things in liquid form or make them
> up in liquid form, and provide them orally with a syringe. Keep him trying
> to eat – use baby food and Wiskas kitten milk in syringes to keep his food
> intake up.
>
>
>
> He may need some anti-seizure medication for now – phenobarbital, diazepam
> or gabapentin. He should be given an injectable at the vets – diazepam or
> phenobarb. Don’t leave him at the vets if you can help it. He needs to be
> home and in a quiet place. It seems like maybe these are stress seizures,
> which are rare in cats, but can happen. Get him home, get him warm, keep
> him eating. Get your vet to prescribe the following combination of meds for
> FeLV:
>
>
>
> 5 mg daily of prednisolone (or giving half, twice a day)
>
> 1 mg x 2 a day of stanazolol (winstrol)
>
> 50 mg Doxycycline, twice a day
>
>
>
> The one you’ll have trouble getting is the Winstrol, but it is the key to
> recovery. It will help improve his appetite, put weight on, make him feel
> better, and improve his red cell production. Your vet will probably never
> have heard of it, or if he does, he will be against it (it is an anabolic
> steroid). Your vet will need to order it from a compounding pharmacy.
>
>
>
> Good luck with your little boy.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *mirna m
> *Sent:* April-23-18 5:14 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Maynard-Tabby Boy
>
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I am new here:)I have absolutely no experience with FeLV but my rescue
> group does,but this last cat has us all confused.I picked up a small boy
> last wednesday,about a year old, extremely emaciated,1.5kg, 39.7 degrees
> Celsius temperature,severe nasal and occular discharge ,difficulty
> swollowing.As it was evening, he got the basic atb's, Baytril and
> Gentamicine and we went home.This is were the real trouble stared as he
> wouldn't eat.I situated him in another building in the yard,as I have 8
> cats,all of them rescues. Next morning we hurried to the vet,and after
> doing the test,he was FeLV positive.He stayed for an IV,and in the
> afternoon I picked him up.He also got uniflox eyedrops,something for his
> ear parasites,and I clean his nose,and that is it.He was too weak for
> deworming or anything else.He started eating that same afternoon,gotten a
> lot better but due to a nose discharge,the vet changed his atb yesterday to
> amoxycillin and gentamicin...and it was fine untill this morning.We went to
> the vet,he got his shots and as soon as I put him back in the transporter
> to go home,he had a seizure.My heart stopped as I thought he was having an
> anaphylactic shock.But he came back in seconds,and I left him so he can get
> therapy and IV fluids.Came back on the afternoon,we made arrangements we
> would just go back on Baytril the next morning.Started walking to m car,he
> started a series of sneezes,unable to stop,and there it was again,a really
> short .I rushed him back in, but by the time he was on the table,he was
> fine.The vet gave him glucocorticoids(I know they are bad)in case of a
> continuous allergy reaction.I really don't know what is wrong.He started
> getting better,even gained 0.2kg in a few days and now this.I did not want
> to leave him there as he is uncomfortable and no one works there at
> night.We got home,he was incredibly hungry and wanted to eat a lot,also we
> cuddled and I left him.Usually,since the moment I picked him up,he would
> usually go to sleep but now he just sits,like he is waiting for me.I want
> him to rest and to sleep.I am so afraid of tomorrow morning an his shots.I
> really don't know if this was stress or a real reaction to drugs,or
> epilepsy or something else.Also a bit worried because of
> glucocorticoids.Any insight would be helpful and truly appreciated.Sorry
> for the long post.
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1

2018-02-27 Thread Pam Doore
Ardy, I had similar thing with Sweetie Peetie having mammary cancer.
Looking back I would never put her though that surgery again. I got a few
hours with her at clinic after her surgery and she died in her sleep.  Does
that had called to tell me she had  stopped breathing on the operating
table  and was "shockey". I have struggled with that but your post about
them knowing we were doing it out of love for them is very helpful and
true! Thank you Ardy!

On Feb 26, 2018 11:26 PM, "Ardy Robertson" <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:

> Hi Pam – actually I agree that sometimes too much care is hard on our
> fur-babes. Sometimes when I look back at old pictures of Tigger, I see a
> “look” he had that I now realize might have been that he was sicker than I
> thought and maybe I should have given up sooner. I syringe fed him during
> his last 6 months when he would not eat on his own. Sometimes I think I
> tried too hard, but what I did was out of love for him, always believing we
> could beat his FeLV. And I know he loved us back, so if I overdid, I was
> forgiven I’m sure….Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 4:21 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1
>
>
>
> Thank you Ardy.  I absolutely believe in supportive comfort care.  I pet
> sit and I have watched animals get so many treatments that they hide,
> cringe when you reach even to pet them.  etc.  I can't do that to my babies
> nor would I expect anyone else too.  Glad Topaz is doing well :-D.
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1

2018-02-26 Thread Pam Doore
I have observed the same thing.  I appreciate all support to give quality
over quantity.  I did not know that my cat Trixie had lung cancer I thought
she had developed a allergy to the Christmas tree. She crossed the bridge
before majority of med was in her system. They did give her all of it.. I
ended up having her put to sleep three weeks later and the vet told me at
that point that a cat will hold on as long as possible just for the sake of
their owner.

On Feb 26, 2018 5:51 PM, "Lorrie" <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote:

> I agree, I will NOT put my cats through painful invasive proceedures,
> but I see so many people in my cat groups who will do ANYTHING to
> keep a cat alive, even a very old cat whose time is up.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 02-23, Pam Doore wrote:
> > Thank you Ardy.  I absolutely believe in supportive comfort care.  I pet
> > sit and I have watched animals get so many treatments that they hide,
> > cringe when you reach even to pet them.  etc.  I can't do that to my
> babies
> > nor would I expect anyone else too.  Glad Topaz is doing well :-D.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...

2018-02-26 Thread Pam Doore
Thank you!

On Feb 26, 2018 1:35 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> No – it depends on the parasite load.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* February-26-18 5:49 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...
>
>
>
> Amani, will roundworms aways show up in a fecal?
>
>
> ~~@~@~@~@~@
>
>
> *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
> Christ beneath me, Christ above me. **—** St. Patrick*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Bob
>
> Just as a long shot, consider using Revolution again. I guess I should
> have remembered this, but there is an immature phase of round worms, which
> move through the tissues (sometimes causing eye problems) and into the
> lungs.  During the migration of the immature phase, they move into the
> lungs and causing the cat to cough harshly in order to cough up the
> immature phase, which then gets swallowed down, ending up back in the
> intestines all over again. Using Revolution will kill the mature roundworms
> in the intestines, but not the immature phase. Thus, one needs to use the
> Revolution for several months in order to catch all the worms in their
> various phases. Doxycyline has some negative effect on the immature phase,
> so using both might also assist.
>
> I figured out this issue recently when a cat I had had for more than a
> year, was really losing weight, had very minimal hair growth (sort of
> stubby hair), and kept vomiting up her food. One day, while cleaning up the
> vomit, I noticed an adult round worm in the vomit. I couldn’t figure out
> how my cat would have had worms because I had deflee-ed her when she was
> just a tiny kitten, and treated her with the kitten Revolution. She was
> strictly an indoor cat, as all mine are, so there was no source I could
> figure out for a roundworm infection. I checked it out online, and finally
> understood that she still had a roundworm infection from kittenhood. Her
> sister also had lackluster hair growth. I treated both with Revolution and
> saw an immediate improvement with weight gain and hair growth. However,
> unfortunately, her sister got pregnant, and I also found out that the
> immature stage of the roundworm gets passed down to kittens through
> mother's milk - which must have been how both of them got it in the first
> place since I picked them up when they were only a few days old. Anyway,
> the rest of the mystery was solved because the sister got very sick while
> nursing the kittens - running nose, coughing, temperature, (and again, I
> couldn’t figure out how that could be, given that she wasn’t exposed to any
> new cats). The kittens also got sick, and had this TERRIBLE hacking cough
> and really badly infected eyes which NO topical medication would help, and
> no antibiotic helped UNTIL I tried the Doxycycline.
>
> Everything fell into place for me when I saw the worm in my cat's vomit,
> and did a bit of research.
>
> So, if possible, try Revolution again, and try some Doxycycline and see if
> that leads to any improvement.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: February-24-18 12:22 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...
>
> Thank you pam,sandy ,ardy and all who weighed. in. on. the “ runs”
>  I’m leaning toward this being an autoimmune issue and will ask the
> shelter to have Tommy back to the vet for a better eval... Original
> recommendation was to use an antibiotic more common in livestock and
> aviaries ( tylosin) which was sound but did not take into account that my
> boy won’t eat his food with this foul tasting abx. I’m reintroducing
> it..now.. but VERY slowly After a couple of weeks if I can’t get him to
> a full dose it’s time to change course He’s 15 years old and he can’t
> afford to lose weight or get dehydrated  He’s a foster who was “
> supposed” to be back with his owner well before nowbut it looks to
> me that these guys are going to be a lifespan placement
>
>
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> wrote:
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pam, Sandy et all

2018-02-26 Thread Pam Doore
Good morning, I have heard that FeLv+ are not concern to any other species
including us, so your nephew is safe with your kitty :-D.

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

> Hello.  Has anyone heard of our FelV cats and cancer patients not allowed
> to be around one another?   My felv cat Skylar has been with me 2 years and
> my nephew moved in who has cancer, I was unsure if they should be sleeping
> with each other.  Thanks for any information.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 5:16 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Pam, Sandy et all
>
>
>
> Thank you Bob :).  I will try to post some pictures sometime of the crew
> :).
>
> A friend had a kitty who had chronic diarrhea and nothing worked.  They
> found it was an autoimmune disease that was treated with B12 shots,
> prednisone, and hydrolyzed protein.  He was on this plan for a few months
> and has been diarrhea free for several years now.  He is also off the
> hydrolyzed protein food too.  His stool is still softer than other cats but
> no diarrhea.   I am extremely familiar with cats not eating food additives
> and special foods that are supposed to help them.  My vet now says, "with
> any other cat we would do , but this is Becca so will attempt.
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...

2018-02-26 Thread Pam Doore
Amani, will roundworms aways show up in a fecal?

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Bob
>
> Just as a long shot, consider using Revolution again. I guess I should
> have remembered this, but there is an immature phase of round worms, which
> move through the tissues (sometimes causing eye problems) and into the
> lungs.  During the migration of the immature phase, they move into the
> lungs and causing the cat to cough harshly in order to cough up the
> immature phase, which then gets swallowed down, ending up back in the
> intestines all over again. Using Revolution will kill the mature roundworms
> in the intestines, but not the immature phase. Thus, one needs to use the
> Revolution for several months in order to catch all the worms in their
> various phases. Doxycyline has some negative effect on the immature phase,
> so using both might also assist.
>
> I figured out this issue recently when a cat I had had for more than a
> year, was really losing weight, had very minimal hair growth (sort of
> stubby hair), and kept vomiting up her food. One day, while cleaning up the
> vomit, I noticed an adult round worm in the vomit. I couldn’t figure out
> how my cat would have had worms because I had deflee-ed her when she was
> just a tiny kitten, and treated her with the kitten Revolution. She was
> strictly an indoor cat, as all mine are, so there was no source I could
> figure out for a roundworm infection. I checked it out online, and finally
> understood that she still had a roundworm infection from kittenhood. Her
> sister also had lackluster hair growth. I treated both with Revolution and
> saw an immediate improvement with weight gain and hair growth. However,
> unfortunately, her sister got pregnant, and I also found out that the
> immature stage of the roundworm gets passed down to kittens through
> mother's milk - which must have been how both of them got it in the first
> place since I picked them up when they were only a few days old. Anyway,
> the rest of the mystery was solved because the sister got very sick while
> nursing the kittens - running nose, coughing, temperature, (and again, I
> couldn’t figure out how that could be, given that she wasn’t exposed to any
> new cats). The kittens also got sick, and had this TERRIBLE hacking cough
> and really badly infected eyes which NO topical medication would help, and
> no antibiotic helped UNTIL I tried the Doxycycline.
>
> Everything fell into place for me when I saw the worm in my cat's vomit,
> and did a bit of research.
>
> So, if possible, try Revolution again, and try some Doxycycline and see if
> that leads to any improvement.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: February-24-18 12:22 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...
>
> Thank you pam,sandy ,ardy and all who weighed. in. on. the “ runs”
>  I’m leaning toward this being an autoimmune issue and will ask the
> shelter to have Tommy back to the vet for a better eval... Original
> recommendation was to use an antibiotic more common in livestock and
> aviaries ( tylosin) which was sound but did not take into account that my
> boy won’t eat his food with this foul tasting abx. I’m reintroducing
> it..now.. but VERY slowly After a couple of weeks if I can’t get him to
> a full dose it’s time to change course He’s 15 years old and he can’t
> afford to lose weight or get dehydrated  He’s a foster who was “
> supposed” to be back with his owner well before nowbut it looks to
> me that these guys are going to be a lifespan placement
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...

2018-02-24 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Bob,  My friend's cat I mentioned was a shelter cat who was treated by
both of our vets repeatedly and nothing worked. She was fostering and
finally gave up and took him to her own vet who saw everything that had
been tried and had not worked and went and did very expensive blood work
and then came up with the diagnosis the B12 prednisone and hydrolyzed
protein food. We were both disappointed that neither of the vet practices
that the cat had been to repeatedly and previously had never even
considered this condition as a possibility. If she had not adopted him he
would have been euthanized even though it's a no-kill shelter  Praise the
Lord different leadership is at the shelter now and that is not a
possibility anymore.

My Ally also got picky about food near the end and I definitely don't want
to mess around with the kitty not eating and doing anything to make them
even less inclined to eat.

It would be more expensive but if you could get the script compounded into
a transdermal to be absorbed through the skin in the ear that would make it
so the meds were not in the food.  I am very grateful for transdermal
meds:-D.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1

2018-02-23 Thread Pam Doore
Thank you Ardy.  I absolutely believe in supportive comfort care.  I pet
sit and I have watched animals get so many treatments that they hide,
cringe when you reach even to pet them.  etc.  I can't do that to my babies
nor would I expect anyone else too.  Glad Topaz is doing well :-D.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pam, Sandy et all

2018-02-23 Thread Pam Doore
Thank you Bob :).  I will try to post some pictures sometime of the crew
:).

A friend had a kitty who had chronic diarrhea and nothing worked.  They
found it was an autoimmune disease that was treated with B12 shots,
prednisone, and hydrolyzed protein.  He was on this plan for a few months
and has been diarrhea free for several years now.  He is also off the
hydrolyzed protein food too.  His stool is still softer than other cats but
no diarrhea.   I am extremely familiar with cats not eating food additives
and special foods that are supposed to help them.  My vet now says, "with
any other cat we would do , but this is Becca so will attempt.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1

2018-02-22 Thread Pam Doore
*Hi Bob and all,  *


*I don't realize I am not seeing posts until someone else mentions about
not seeing posts.*


*I lost my Ally three days after Christmas.  A little less than a month
later I was notified by a parent of one of my students about a 6+-year-old
boy who was Fiv+ and FelV+; owner died and was at a shelter in the southern
tier of NY.   He is doing well and his name is also Tommy.  I took home a
FIV+ older cat (vet through FIV was flaring and I wanted him to have a home
and lots of love for whatever time he has.  He is playing, eating, and
giving lots of love and demanding lots of love!  He is living in my Master
suit while he is being vaccinated against FelV+ and can be with his Sunny
and Tommy who are super eager to meet him :).   *


On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:37 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
wrote:

> Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided to
> unsubscribe
>
> Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few months
> ???   I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any FELV+ for a
> few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting, mercifully, so
> far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest and cutest of the
> bunch) quessing the others had been older when they had their exposure
> Think we might already have a place that will give a home to this cutie
> unfortunately not a family... but better than having the little guy in
> isolation here at our shelter. He needs company
>
> Hope all is well with your Kitties my two old guys are doing pretty
> well. Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new lease on
> life. He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER Jerry is still
> suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking for ways to control
> it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have failed so far.
>
> Bob in Warwick NY
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] What are the dosages for

2017-12-25 Thread Pam Doore
Thanks Kat!
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[Felvtalk] What are the dosages for

2017-12-25 Thread Pam Doore
What are the dosages for winsteral,doxycycline, and prednisone that I would
want to ask my vet for? Thank you!

Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread Pam Doore
Dear Katherine, My deepest condolences on the loss of your soul-mate!
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Re: [Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .

2017-10-17 Thread Pam Doore
Ken I am so glad that Zorro had your has his parent. They do fight so hard
to stay with their family (us) :).

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On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:23 PM,  wrote:

> Good Evening to all who just responded to Robert's "Anyone still there"
> email. This is my first post and I stumbled upon this site in my frantic
> effort to get info on FelV. Our tuxedo, Zorro, was with us barely a year
> when FelV took him in less than two weeks. I first saw him among the weeds
> and shrubs of my lower garden as he darted about, perhaps pursuing a field
> mouse. Over the next few weeks  I steadily coaxed him closer to the house
> with food, water and my appearances. Eventually he was on the back porch
> daily meowing for breakfast and our Teddy Bear dog, Oliver, watched Zorro
> eat from the other side of the screen door. By late September Zorro was
> eating in the house, finding the litter box and purring so loudly he could
> be heard from ten feet away.
>
> Zorro was neutered, vaccinated and checked over and quickly became the
> kindest, most lovable cat I've ever had and at 70 I've had a few! We all
> spent a wonderful year plus together and Oliver became so accepting of
> Zorro that he allowed himself to be groomed my him. All this came crashing
> down six weeks ago. Zorro slept more, did not jump into bed with me and
> though he ate, he ate in little spurts. We took him in, tried some
> antibiotics first since he had a fever but nothing changed. Then the blood
> tests; then the devastating news: FeLV. The Vet suggested we consider
> putting Zorro down since it was incurable. I said Zorro will decide that
> action. For the next ten days we bought time with Zorro using a
> coticosteroid via pills. But the inevitable came suddenly three Monday
> evenings back. Zorro was slowly walking and then just laid down. His
> breathing became labored and I lay down next to him whispering in his ears
> and stroking his side. I told him to go, he'd done it on his terms and w
>  ithing five minutes he was still.
>
> We've buried him with his bed and special blanket to cover him and keep
> the soil off. He's now beneath a tree near where I first saw him.
>
> Ken Resch
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone There....

2017-10-17 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Bob, I am sorry to hear of Gilbert's passing and that his disease
started progressing.

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On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:36 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
wrote:

> No mail has appeared in my mailbox from this group for quite  long while
> so I thought I would inquire as to whether _ I _ am just missing mail that
> HAS been going to others or if the group has simply not been active for a
> couple of months. Generally it has been my experience that once I write
> one of these notes I start to get mail once again... NO idea why
> I thought of all of you recently when it was time to put my Hospice Cat (
> Gilbert) down Third cat I have lost in a year   I'm 0 for 3 at this
> point and am thinking it might be time to take on a more healthy animal but
> I keep harkening back to amani's words... If not us... who??   Certainly
> not the people who don't much care about cats...nor the vast majority of
> people who HAVE cats.  There are SO many deserving animals out there
> that have problems that place them low on the adoption list  they ALL
> deserve to have a home and someone to see them as special  Gilbert was
> not adoptable with his brain injury...though ALL of the volunteers thought
> him special...still... no one came forward when he developed cancer though
> they all truly DID care that he was going to die  He had a good life
> for his last few months... sitting on the porch...looking out the
> window and more petting and love than even HE wanted.  As is usually
> the case it was probably harder on me than him when it came time He
> stopped eating, it was painful for him to get his oral meds and even subq
> pain killers did little... He was constipated and just hid out all day...
> The Tumor was forcing his one eye to protrude and the other to recede... it
> would have been cruel to ask him to endure more. A beautiful sweet
> animal I miss him terribly...
> Curious to see if I find the list active with this submission.
>
>
> Bob...
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

2017-10-17 Thread Pam Doore
We each have different needs after a pet pashe's before bringing another
baby home. I adopted Sunny 5 days after Mozart died. Sunny had been my
foster for 2 months.




On Oct 17, 2017 1:29 PM,  wrote:

yOU ARE RIGHT.  iF YOU WAIT FOR GRIEVING TO PASS, A KITTEN MAY DIE.  Right
now is the time to get another one to help in the grieving process.

 kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:
> How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind
words about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another
kitty. Some say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have
honored the one who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe
there is a cat waiting for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the
staff of our shelter arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of
cats at the door! In total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the
boxes.  I saw a Tux among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also
going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we
must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side.
>
> Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might
know,
> Ken
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2017-08-15 Thread Pam Doore
Great news!!

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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Ardy Robertson 
wrote:

> Hi – just to update everyone, little “Lucky” that was tossed out of the
> car and hit the windshield of my granddaughter’s friend, Rachel, seems to
> have fully recovered, and even made friends with another of Rachel’s
> rescues, a black lab dog. My granddaughter Toni sent me a picture of the
> two of them looking into each other’s face with the dog on the couch and
> Lucky up on the back of the couch. They seemed very happy…….. I love a
> happy ending J
>
> Ardy
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts...

2017-07-26 Thread Pam Doore
I have made a similiar request to our board members and they never do it
either.  Drives me crazy!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-25 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Deloris!  I pray your surgery and recovery goes well!  Praise the Lord
for good helper for your babies!
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Re: [Felvtalk] eliminating extraneous text

2017-07-25 Thread Pam Doore
>
>> Hi Bob,  I think you suggetion is a good one :-).  It is particularly
>> hard for me to follow so many emails in the same conversations on my phone
>> when they are clumped as one conversation :).
>>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
I live in western ny if that helps.
On Jul 21, 2017 12:54 PM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

> I tried, I was going to get him a rabbit but Skylar is huge and would kill
> it.  I tried to see if he liked my dog and my dog scares the hell out of
> him and the dog is old.  LOL  have a nice weekend.  I wanted to find
> someone who lived close who had an FELV Cat so we could see how they did
> together but no one lives near me.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 10:58 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
>
>
> You could  vaccinate one of yours against felv.  or maybe a different
> species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or
> if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of
> mine and my girls :).
>
> Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally tolerated being
> with them but would have been fine as only kitty. After Miko died,
> eventually she started playing with him.  He is definitely more dependent
> on her now than she is on him :-).
>
> On Jul 21, 2017 10:06 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house.
> He is alone in a big area of the house.  But I am not sure if him and
> another cat would spread germs back and forth.   My cat clan is up to 28
> cats.  Insane.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
>
>
> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens.
> One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another
> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :).
>
> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my first
> FELV cat.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
>
>
> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>
> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork every 6
> months and I thought it was odd too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
> anything.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats
> (and being called into question in humans too).
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great.
> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years
> old, I hope he is around a long time.
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again
> not getting group mail
> > Has there been activity I've missed??
> > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we
> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy
> it while it's happening)Wondering if any of you have experience
> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg
> QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
You could  vaccinate one of yours against felv.  or maybe a different
species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or
if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of
mine and my girls :).

Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally tolerated being
with them but would have been fine as only kitty. After Miko died,
eventually she started playing with him.  He is definitely more dependent
on her now than she is on him :-).
On Jul 21, 2017 10:06 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house.
> He is alone in a big area of the house.  But I am not sure if him and
> another cat would spread germs back and forth.   My cat clan is up to 28
> cats.  Insane.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
>
>
> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens.
> One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another
> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :).
>
> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my first
> FELV cat.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
>
>
> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>
> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork every 6
> months and I thought it was odd too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
> anything.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats
> (and being called into question in humans too).
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great.
> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years
> old, I hope he is around a long time.
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again
> not getting group mail
> > Has there been activity I've missed??
> > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we
> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy
> it while it's happening)Wondering if any of you have experience
> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg
> QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I
> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are
> killing him unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor does not appear to have
> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled
> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down
> on superfluous drugscurrently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is
> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via
> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting
> substance... bears closer scrutiny...  supposed to have anti tumor
> activity) Two other " alternative " medications !
>  which I h
>  ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time
> I have to give him something

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. One
kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another
FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :).
On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my first
> FELV cat.
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
>
>
> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>
> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork every 6
> months and I thought it was odd too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
> anything.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats
> (and being called into question in humans too).
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great.
> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years
> old, I hope he is around a long time.
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again
> not getting group mail
> > Has there been activity I've missed??
> > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we
> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy
> it while it's happening)Wondering if any of you have experience
> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg
> QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I
> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are
> killing him unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor does not appear to have
> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled
> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down
> on superfluous drugscurrently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is
> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via
> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting
> substance... bears closer scrutiny...  supposed to have anti tumor
> activity) Two other " alternative " medications !
>  which I h
>  ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time
> I have to give him something. with a tumor invading his oral cavity I
> want to keep anything PO to a minimum
> > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die
> > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are
> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)...
> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him
> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range
> and even tried running this AM...  Wasn't in anything resembling a straight
> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep...  Guess that's
> part of why I am such a fan of animals they simply do what they have to
> and do it without complaint  ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd
> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??  I'm a
> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to
> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens
> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask
> you).

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork every 6
> months and I thought it was odd too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>
> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
> anything.
>
>  Amani Oakley  wrote:
> > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats
> (and being called into question in humans too).
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great.
> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years
> old, I hope he is around a long time.
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >
> > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again
> not getting group mail
> > Has there been activity I've missed??
> > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we
> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy
> it while it's happening)Wondering if any of you have experience
> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg
> QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I
> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are
> killing him unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor does not appear to have
> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled
> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down
> on superfluous drugscurrently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is
> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via
> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting
> substance... bears closer scrutiny...  supposed to have anti tumor
> activity) Two other " alternative " medications !
>  which I h
>  ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time
> I have to give him something. with a tumor invading his oral cavity I
> want to keep anything PO to a minimum
> > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die
> > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are
> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)...
> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him
> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range
> and even tried running this AM...  Wasn't in anything resembling a straight
> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep...  Guess that's
> part of why I am such a fan of animals they simply do what they have to
> and do it without complaint  ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd
> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??  I'm a
> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to
> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens
> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask
> you)...
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert...

2017-06-25 Thread Pam Doore
I have been a foster failure 4 times.  Once I saw how well the foster's did
with the the other cats and I fell in love, they had to stay :-D.

As far as treating shelter pets, I know that at my shelter there is a set
amount per pet and anything above that comes from a special account which
has been newly set up.  We do not have a vet at our shelter, we have to
take the cats and dogs to the vet clinic and there really is no shelter
discount for medicine or office visits.  I can't make decisions for pets
based on money alone.  My goal is always the quality of life.

I wish you and Gilbert all the best in getting him the right meds to keep
him pain-free :-D.  I love the image of a 15lb kitty snoozing on your chest
:).


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Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick*


On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 5:21 PM,  wrote:

> They do get under our skin and become a necessary to our lives.  I have 3
> 15 pounders who think I am a mattress for them to sleep on.  Thank God they
> take turns.  Does Gilbert like to KNEED a lot?  Homey gets into a trance
> and digs deeply so I have had to explain to doctors what all those little
> red spots are.  Do you have to foster, or can you just adopt so you can
> give pain treatment as you see fit?
> I end up adopting everyone that comes my way.  After just a couple of days
> I could not let them go.
>
>  ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> >
>
> Amani...
> As always... thank you for the advice and all the other references to
> research ( Doxy, Cannabinol) that can be helpful down the road...   In
> the case of Gilbert it is perplexing that they are so withholding re:
> drugs.  Gilbert is a favorite of everyone and no one wants to see him
> hurting  I'll keep making suggestions.  Starting once again to pay
> my own ( larger) medical contributions under medicare I cannot afford to
> be taking him to vets on my own ( as well as it being a potential
> problem if I do because he is ( technically) the shelters " property as
> he is a Foster   Right now he is on purefied liquid Venus Fly Trap
> per a complementary Vet who is well regarded in the local
> community...which she says helped her keep her own cats tumor at bay for
> nine months (  This lady is not simply " out there"... but I have not
> yet done any looking re: VFT as I was not planning to prolong Gilbies
> life.. Just to make him comfortable and keep him out of the shelter
> during his final days  Now, of course, having gotten so used to and
> loving having him with me I am interested in how to keep him painlessly
> around with me longer  I like watching TV with a 15 lb cat sitting
> on my chest with his face inches from my own... snoring..
>
> Bob
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Re: [Felvtalk] LysineI

2017-06-24 Thread Pam Doore
I would be very interestes in doxy results stopping viruses. Working at a
shelter I have seen plenty of chronic herpes.
On Jun 24, 2017 9:36 AM, "Ardy Robertson"  wrote:

> Thanks Amani - I am also very intrigued by Doxycycline being able to, I
> believe you said - possibly stop the FeLV virus from replicating. Is this
> being studied and tested by vets, schools, etc.?
>
> I also through it was said that the cannibas oil stopped the herpes virus
> of cold sores - my word - I thought we had nothing to defeat viruses. Docs
> always say "it's a virus, it has to run its course" - well maybe not! Yet
> they aren't looking at obvious sources just because of its third cousin -
> "weed". Good grief!
>
> Rant over!
> Ardy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:16 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
> Ardy, I think it was precisely because of my experience with Winstrol that
> I was open to the unthinkable thought that science and scientists weren’t
> always free to produce unbiased research, even when it could help a lot of
> animals or people.
>
> I am, first and foremost, a scientist by training and inclination, and
> this concept was terribly foreign to me when I first stumbled upon the
> bizarre Winstrol situation.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Ardy Robertson
> Sent: June-24-17 12:12 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
> Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an
> Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are
> not. People are crazy sometimes.
>
> Ardy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:42 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will
> see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects
> this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research.
> It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of
> prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition,
> needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this
> ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the
> United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned
> completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing
> any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from
> Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a pharmaceutical company decided to
> extract one of the key substances from the cannabis plant and market it as
> Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known medicinal qualities (the
> criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a very effective drug
> which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the drug company.
>
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
>
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for
> its medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children
> into complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable
> non-stop seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of
> consciousness. Parents in states which have not legalized marijuana have
> literally moved their whole families to other states to access medical
> marijuana when they have children suffering these syndromes. Even
> Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills legalizing
> medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these suffering
> children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective for
> PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served
> overseas and have witnessed traumatic events.
>
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma
> which occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead
> within 6 months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with
> experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed
> complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the
> development of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that
> nothing else has been 

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Pam Doore
Marilyn I send you my deepest empathy for Destiny and her crossing the
Rainbow Bridge!

hugs!
Pam
On Jun 24, 2017 12:33 AM, "Marilyn Knapp Litt" 
wrote:

> Just wanted to give you kind souls an update on my sweet Destiny.  I
> helped her cross the bridge last week, just a few weeks after her
> diagnosis.  The vet initially thought she had a nasal tumor, but tests were
> negative.  On this visit it was clear she had deteriorated in a week and
> had the vet was able to see the tumor. The vet said steroids would shrink
> it, but it would come roaring back.  Her head was so swollen that one eye
> was shut.  The best thing we could do was let her go while she was still
> purring.
>
> From onset to end there was nothing we could have changed with any
> knowledge or treatment.  She had tested neg. for FeLv and had the vaccine
> and boosters. Our other cats are negative and she never went outdoors.
> Destiny enjoyed good health until very recently when her respitory
> infection turned out to be a tumor.  Nevertheless, it really helped us to
> have the support of this community and know there was somewhere we could go
> for advice.
>
> Thank you all and may you all have better success and hug your kitty
> tonight.  Destiny was a peacemaker.  I never saw her hiss once, but I saw
> her sit as close as she could to our cats who hissed at her, until they
> finally were won over.  The world needs more people like my special cat . .
> .
>
> Marilyn Knapp Litt
>
>  Marilyn Knapp Litt  wrote:
> > Has anyone used these for FeLV?
> >
> >
> >
> > My kitty, Destiny,  is battling a bad infection.  We were shocked to
> > find she had FeLV.  She had had the shot and a booster.  The vet was
> > treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out
> > the terrible truth.  I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping
> her comfortable.
> > She is on an antibiotic.  I am giving her Essiac tea.  No idea if it
> > is effective.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV.
> >
> >
> >
> > I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find
> > info on using them with cancer, not FeLV.  Anyone have a suggestion
> > about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection?  We
> > thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better
> the last 24 hours.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Marilyn Knapp Litt
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread Pam Doore
I was talking about lysine.

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Huh??
>
>
>
> Are you sure it is cannabis oil and not a derivative of hemp which is
> sometimes confusingly called the same thing? Usually you need a
> prescription and to jump through a million hoops. I don’t think it is
> easily available. I just went to chewy.com, but don’t see it. I did a
> search on “cannabis” and another on “oil” and nothing came up fitting the
> bill. I would have been really surprised if something had.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* June-21-17 8:00 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
>
>
> I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter.
> Two of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the
> treats, all from Chewy :-).
>
> On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.
> There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady
> seller.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some
> cannabis oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually
> passed away. I had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately,
> as I too knew nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical -
> having been brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of
> any kind.
> >
> > I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin
> cancer with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore
> starting at the corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on
> topically, put a band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it
> completely gone. I have used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that
> it assisted SOMETIMES in shortening the duration of the cold sore, but
> never before had I had the sore disappear on day one. I then did a Google
> search on cannabis oil and cold sores, and was stunned to find many many
> people reporting its significant effectiveness and research which found its
> effectiveness against herpes viruses.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Amy Glunt
> > Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> >
> > I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them,
> and NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a
> treatment. But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to
> herpes virus, I'm astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure,
> and somehow this information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame!
> And of course, I live in a red state that doesn't recognize medical
> marijuana. What a blow. All of the days I've had to miss work, all the pain
> and physical/mental suffering (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving,
> with swollen lymph nodes and fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some
> cannabis oil, I may no longer have to suffer. I'll hold out hope.
> > Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of
> knowledge. You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your
> shared knowledge will save me from the agony of cold sores.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You
> will see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive
> effects this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the
> research. It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught
> with racial overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise
> of prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition,
> needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this
> ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the
> United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned
> completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing
> any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread Pam Doore
I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter. Two
of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the treats,
all from Chewy :-).
On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM,  wrote:

> Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.
> There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady
> seller.
>
>  Amani Oakley  wrote:
> > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some
> cannabis oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually
> passed away. I had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately,
> as I too knew nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical -
> having been brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of
> any kind.
> >
> > I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin
> cancer with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore
> starting at the corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on
> topically, put a band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it
> completely gone. I have used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that
> it assisted SOMETIMES in shortening the duration of the cold sore, but
> never before had I had the sore disappear on day one. I then did a Google
> search on cannabis oil and cold sores, and was stunned to find many many
> people reporting its significant effectiveness and research which found its
> effectiveness against herpes viruses.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Amy Glunt
> > Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> >
> > I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them,
> and NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a
> treatment. But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to
> herpes virus, I'm astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure,
> and somehow this information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame!
> And of course, I live in a red state that doesn't recognize medical
> marijuana. What a blow. All of the days I've had to miss work, all the pain
> and physical/mental suffering (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving,
> with swollen lymph nodes and fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some
> cannabis oil, I may no longer have to suffer. I'll hold out hope.
> > Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of
> knowledge. You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your
> shared knowledge will save me from the agony of cold sores.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You
> will see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive
> effects this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the
> research. It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught
> with racial overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise
> of prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition,
> needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this
> ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the
> United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned
> completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing
> any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from
> Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a pharmaceutical company decided to
> extract one of the key substances from the cannabis plant and market it as
> Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known medicinal qualities (the
> criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a very effective drug
> which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the drug company.
> > >
> > > Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There
> are Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent,
> amazing research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> > >
> > > Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it
> for its medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is
> unbelievably effective in helping young children suffering from severe
> forms of epilepsy where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour,
> and the only medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these
> children into complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the
> unbearable non-stop seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of
> consciousness. Parents in states which have not legalized marijuana have
> literally moved their whole families to other states to access medical
> marijuana when they have children suffering these syndromes. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-20 Thread Pam Doore
I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I
amVERY pleased with quick response.
On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria"  wrote:

> Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes
> virus - it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!
>
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
> wrote:
> >
> > I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to "
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share
> of side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the
> drawbacks.
> >
> >
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> >> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the
> virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so
> not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not
> work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats.
> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.
> Antibiotic seems to not b
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Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

2017-06-19 Thread Pam Doore
That is true for FIV not FeLv :).
On Jun 19, 2017 5:25 PM, "Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may
> test positive for FeLV - a bummer. "
>
> No. That's FIV.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sandy
> Sent: Jun 18, 2017 8:44 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, thyme2s...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
>
> Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk)  about Zander's Protocol - consists
> of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol.  IMPORTANT to
> get your kitty on this ASAP.
> It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may
> test positive for FeLV - a bummer.
>
> Sandy W
>
> --
> *From: *"Pam Doore" <thyme2s...@gmail.com>
> *To: *felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent: *Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
>
> Hi Marilyn,  I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes
> virus on top of the FeLu.
> There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives
> to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what
> the name of that was.  It was originally given to humans with HIV.
>
> What kind of infection is Destiny fighting?
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt <
> mari...@marilynlitt.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used these for FeLV?
>>
>>
>>
>> My kitty, Destiny,  is battling a bad infection.  We were shocked to find
>> she had FeLV.  She had had the shot and a booster.  The vet was treating
>> her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible
>> truth.  I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable.
>> She is on an antibiotic.  I am giving her Essiac tea.  No idea if it is
>> effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find
>> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV.  Anyone have a suggestion about
>> boosting her immune system and fighting this infection?  We thought we were
>> going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant

2017-06-18 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Marilyn,  I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes
virus on top of the FeLu.
There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives
to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what
the name of that was.  It was originally given to humans with HIV.

What kind of infection is Destiny fighting?

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On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt  wrote:

> Has anyone used these for FeLV?
>
>
>
> My kitty, Destiny,  is battling a bad infection.  We were shocked to find
> she had FeLV.  She had had the shot and a booster.  The vet was treating
> her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible
> truth.  I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable.
> She is on an antibiotic.  I am giving her Essiac tea.  No idea if it is
> effective.
>
>
>
> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV.
>
>
>
> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find
> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV.  Anyone have a suggestion about
> boosting her immune system and fighting this infection?  We thought we were
> going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
> ~Marilyn Knapp Litt
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Shelters and Sanctuaries for FelV

2017-06-08 Thread Pam Doore
Thank you, Bob.  I will be in touch with the two that you mentioned.
Before I adopted my momma and her two boys I was looking for rescues to
take them.  I found two; one required $1,000 surrender fee and the other
was a $3,000 surrender fee.  Unfortunately though, and I understand the
financial need to shelters caring for FeLv cats, those two surrender fees
were cost prohibitive.

I am looking forward to learning from this group :-D.

Pam :)
On Jun 8, 2017 12:36 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:

>  Pam...
>
>
> Loveandhopeforanimals  http://loveandhopeforanimals.org
>  (a well funded operation in Upstate New York)   and
> Aslanscats   also in the Northeast
> Are the only ones that come to mind at the moment...Also you might
> give a look at  Seer Farms  in Lakewood NJ. These are the only ones
> that are driveable distance from where I get the impression you are
> from.I know there are others but the small operations are often
> questionable as they are often well meaning but frequently so underfunded
> that the animals do not get adequate care  I don't think most of us
> want to send these more unfortunate creatures simply off to a place that
> will treat them like Hospice Pets ( unless they are truly close to
> death) When I first got my FeLV boys I did a LOT of calling around
> the US to shelters and Sanctuaries that looked after FeLV cats and one call
> led to contacts at another and so onit's been a while but would
> recommend you do the same Frankly... the best care info I received was
> from this group... but that does not obviate the possibility that there are
> others out there that have execellent suggestions or resources that would
> be helpful..   Sorry I can't provide more but , though retired, I'm
> swamped with things that MUST be done today...
>
> Bob
>
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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia rescue groups...

2017-06-07 Thread Pam Doore
Hi all,  I am with a shelter in Western NY.  I have adopted several FE LV+
cats.  I was asked if I could take on one more for the shelter and did.
Last night I was asked if I would be willing to take two more from a
neighboring shelter.  I was unable to do that and they were euthanized
today. That shelter is not interested in rescue groups or putting any money
or other resources into cats that are Fe Lv+.   I am looking to find Fe Lv
rescues that are in the NY/PA/OH areas that I could contact to see if in
the future I could take cats in need to so that they are not euthanized.

Thank you for any suggestions and assistance!!
-Pam


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