Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-11-26 Thread Pam Norman
Couldn't agree with you more. I tell people that my primary form of interior decoration is organic. On 11/26/2012 11:19 AM, Kathryn Green wrote: Hey! Just like my front door sign says: If you get upset about cat and dog hair on my furniture please go back home and 'visit' me by phone. All my

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-11-01 Thread Pam Norman
It's a breed. Looks almost black but in the light can see that fur is dark dark brown. Small cat with wonderful personality. Probably has some Burmese. On 11/1/2012 7:17 PM, Kathryn Green wrote: Bombay kitty? What does that mean? K ___

Re: [Felvtalk] Retesting

2011-07-31 Thread Pam Norman
Oh m'god, I hope so! On 7/31/2011 10:51 AM, Natalie wrote: My assumption would be that the first ELISA was a false positive. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011

Re: [Felvtalk] Retesting

2011-07-31 Thread Pam Norman
, there is no need to to another IFA (which means she cleared the virus). How old is Miss Nora? Good luck!! L - Original Message - From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Retesting Miss Nora

[Felvtalk] Retesting

2011-07-30 Thread Pam Norman
Miss Nora, the FeLeuk kitty we got adopted here in Spring Green, is due for retesting. In late May she tested positive on the Elisa then in the first week of June, she tested negative on the IFA. It's my understanding that she should be re-tested 45 - 60 days after later. Would that be the

Re: [Felvtalk] Bitty

2011-06-26 Thread Pam Norman
Actually, my error, it's MaxCAL! I have found both A/D MaxCal to be feedable straight from the can via finger feeding or spoon feeding. On 6/26/2011 7:31 AM, Sharyl wrote: MaxCat would need to be blenderized with a liquid to be syringe-able. You may also need to strain it 1st but the

Re: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home

2011-06-25 Thread Pam Norman
Totally divine wonderful!! On 6/25/2011 7:52 AM, Melinda Kerr wrote: OK, so who says miracles and divine intervention do not exist? After a couple of hours in the very hot sun, I found evidence that maybe VooDoo was alive and close by. Then, I discovered that the police now

Re: [Felvtalk] Bitty

2011-06-25 Thread Pam Norman
Eukanaba MaxCat would be even better. It has way more calories than A/D. On 6/25/2011 10:02 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote: You're doing a great job! Hang in there!! Get some Science Diet A/D for him on Monday, it will have all the fat and taurine he needs. Thoughts and prayers to you both! Lynda

[Felvtalk] Significance of IFA negative test after Elisa postive

2011-06-23 Thread Pam Norman
I have been wondering where everyone has been for the past week or more. Got me really worried as I've come to depend on you all. Anyway as some of you may know, Sabirna, now re-named Eleanor to Miss Nora, is in her new permanent home everyone is in l ove with her she is doing well. She

Re: [Felvtalk] resend of NY kitty in need

2011-06-23 Thread Pam Norman
Can she not keep him separate from the others? The virus is so short-lived once shed from the body. Others are keeping FelineLeuk kitties in their homes but in rooms apart from the other populations. Where is she? Pam On 6/23/2011 3:58 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: Please see the attached link to

Re: [Felvtalk] Significance of IFA negative test after Elisa postive

2011-06-23 Thread Pam Norman
- Original Message - From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Significance of IFA negative test after Elisa postive I have been wondering where everyone has been for the past week or more. Got me really

Re: [Felvtalk] Elisa/IFA clarification

2011-06-15 Thread Pam Norman
This doesn't seem to deal at all with the significance of a negative IFA test after a positive Elisa. It only refers to a positive IFA test. On 6/15/2011 3:32 PM, Natalie wrote: Interesting flow chart! A good one to print and keep! I posted this recently; it also helps to understand the

[Felvtalk] Update on Sabrina/Eleanor

2011-06-14 Thread Pam Norman
Resending. *** We picked her up on Sunday at the sanctuary she is now in her new home! Meanwhile this past week, the results of the IFA test came back - NEGATIVE! YAY! Her Elisa snap test about a bit ago was positive. As I understand it, the next test in about 30-60 days should be an

Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Pam Norman
I had a wonderful cat years ago who was not FeLeuk+, but died from lymphocytic leukemia. On 6/14/2011 8:05 AM, Natalie wrote: It does, but there's also leukemia (more like the human leukemia). Our cat was NOT FeLV+, but had leukemia. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-13 Thread Pam Norman
I'm in Spring Green! It is good to know that the CCC can work with FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville. Do they use any holistic treatments? On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote: I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic. Both of the vets there are members of

[Felvtalk] Update Sabrina/Eleanor

2011-06-12 Thread Pam Norman
We picked her up today at the sanctuary she is now in her new home! Meanwhile this past week, the results of the IFA test came back - NEGATIVE! Her Elisa snap test about a bit ago was positive. As I understand it, the next test in about 30-60 days should be an Elisa lab test then another

[Felvtalk] Beth/ Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Pam Norman
I need to get some more info on LCTI. Can you help? On 6/10/2011 11:04 PM, Sara Kasteleyn wrote: We have a wonderful holistic-friendly vet who makes house calls. She works in conjunction with our brick and mortar vet for blood work, tests, etc. when necessary. Now that we have lost our

[Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-10 Thread Pam Norman
Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.

[Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

2011-06-08 Thread Pam Norman
I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as supplements. We are going to be picking her up on Sunday! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

2011-06-08 Thread Pam Norman
I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Ealeanor as well as supplements. We are going to be picking her up on Sunday! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Another Ching update

2011-06-08 Thread Pam Norman
She pulled her tube out this morning so I guess she's sending us a message. Anyway it's gone! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

2011-06-08 Thread Pam Norman
How much CoQ10 vitamin C re the latter in what form? And how much apple cider vinegar in water? On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote: I assume that she is FeLV+? I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are ecstatic (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in

Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

2011-06-08 Thread Pam Norman
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor How much CoQ10 vitamin C re the latter in what form? And how much apple cider vinegar in water

Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Aggie to the CLS

2011-06-07 Thread Pam Norman
I am so sorry. Pam On 6/7/2011 4:18 PM, Andy Domek wrote: Hi all, I know I haven't posted in awhile, but I wanted to offer an update to those of you who followed our story with our little bundle of spunk, Aggie. We helped Aggie cross over this morning, and it was one of the hardest things

[Felvtalk] LCTI

2011-06-07 Thread Pam Norman
Could someone please tell me what LCTI is? I am needing to learn as much as possible at maintaining a FeLeuk teenager at optimum health for absolutely as long as possible! Miss Eleanor needs all the help I can get for her! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing

Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI

2011-06-07 Thread Pam Norman
Thank you so much, Andy! On 6/7/2011 4:58 PM, Andy Domek wrote: Hi Pam, LTCI is short for lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator. It is supposed to increase the body's production of t-cells, the killer cells who fight viruses. It ain't cheap, but it worked for us when we needed it last summer

Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI

2011-06-07 Thread Pam Norman
Oh, sorry, where did you get it? On 6/7/2011 4:58 PM, Andy Domek wrote: Hi Pam, LTCI is short for lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator. It is supposed to increase the body's production of t-cells, the killer cells who fight viruses. It ain't cheap, but it worked for us when we needed it last

[Felvtalk] Sabrina updatet

2011-06-06 Thread Pam Norman
Sabrina in one lucky girl. We had originally hoped prayed we could find someone who would give her a temporary room for the period of time needed for testing to determine whether she could beat this thing. We sent out SO many emails talked to SO many people. Contacted all the networks we

Re: [Felvtalk] Sabrina updatet

2011-06-06 Thread Pam Norman
Message - From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Sabrina updatet Sabrina in one lucky girl. We had originally hoped prayed we could find someone who would give her a temporary room for the period of time

Re: [Felvtalk] Sabrina updatet

2011-06-06 Thread Pam Norman
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sabrina updatet Sabrina in one lucky girl. We had originally hoped prayed we could find someone who would

[Felvtalk] Sabrina - testing

2011-06-05 Thread Pam Norman
What is the sequence of testing for FeLeuk cats? Sabrina had the snap test about a week ago. I have seen differing opinions as to when the first IFA should be done. I read somewhere 3 months after the snap test, but a vet with one of our networks says no, it can/should be done now. We

[Felvtalk] Questiions

2011-06-04 Thread Pam Norman
Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a

[Felvtalk] Update on Poppy!

2011-04-18 Thread Pam Norman
Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand.

[Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Pam Norman
Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand.

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Pam Norman
She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial positive on the Elisa the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative on the IFA. On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Pam Norman
- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial

Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace

2011-04-17 Thread Pam Norman
Jannes, Is there access from the house or do you take her out there? Pam On 4/17/2011 11:15 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace.div style=width:480px;text-align:right;embed width=480 height=360

[Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Pam Norman
I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now when the IFA test results come in. I've been reading reading from what I can gather, the old dictums about NEVER havinig positive negative cats even in the same house has been abandoned. From what I have read, the general sense is

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Pam Norman
Sharon, What about grooming? I would assume that those cats, having lived together for 10 years, would mutually groom. That's sharing bodily fluids I would think would be potentially harmful to the negative ones. Pam On 4/15/2011 1:28 PM, Sharon Catalan wrote: Hello Pam, My 3 cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Pam Norman
- From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:00 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now when the IFA test results come in. I've been reading reading from what I

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Pam Norman
You all have been so helpful on my questions about Poppy I can't believe it! Maybe I can return the favor a bit help here. Most of my 10 cats eat in their crates. I have them stacked in the kitchen each cat knows which one is his they go into them at meal times. Otherwise I too would run

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives

2011-04-15 Thread Pam Norman
hope that Poppy's immune system clears the virus. You may also get her siblings tested again to be safe and the mother as well. Good luck! I hope this info helps!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April

[Felvtalk] Poppy

2011-04-14 Thread Pam Norman
Poppy is a little wild 6 month old kitten just tested found FeLeuk positive. She was one 3 beautiful white with black kittens trapped on Monday. She is mostly white with a black mask a black tail with a little white tip. Pale green eyes like those marbles we used to play with as kids. Her

[Felvtalk] Need some help or suggestions in Wisconsin

2009-09-04 Thread Pam Norman
I am in Spring Green, WI, just about 30 miles NW of Madison am trying to find a home or foster for a lovely FeLV kitty in Madison. She is currently living on a screened porch of a very nice woman who unfortunately is not only allergic but has 2 nasty dogs in the back year. We need to get a

Re: Lance/Ember

2007-10-14 Thread Pam Norman
I just came into this thread please take Ember in to see your vet! Any lump in the neck area, especially after vaccinations there (which should NEVER be done - NO vaccinations are supposed to be done in the scruff anymore!) is suspect. Take her in asap have it biopsied. Pam Lance wrote:

Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me

2007-07-02 Thread Pam Norman
Was bloodwork the same in all? What was off? What was their WBC like, the BUN creatinine, the HCT? Were they eating well up to the time of getting sick? Any fever? Pam laurieskatz wrote: I am so sorry to hear about your situatio and can only imagine how horrible it must beI freaked

Re: Wallace not eating or drinking either (was Re: Caroline still not eating or drinking)

2007-06-12 Thread Pam Norman
Jean, I have had 2 kitties with lymphoma neither of them had FeLV. I think an ultrasound done by an expereienced ultrasonagrapher is definitely in order. Pam Jean wrote: Hi folks -- long-time lurker here... I'm having the same problem with my Wallace. He's 10 in July, half-Maine Coon

Re: Wallace not eating or drinking either (was Re: Caroline still not eating or drinking)

2007-06-12 Thread Pam Norman
. If it is lymphoma with Wallace, I would join the yahoogroup lymphoma list. There's a lot of good people information there. Pam Jean wrote: --- Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean, I have had 2 kitties with lymphoma neither of them had FeLV. I think an ultrasound done by an expereienced

Kisa

2007-06-12 Thread Pam Norman
Cassandra, I am so very sorry that you have lost Kisa. May your memories of her bring you happiness in years to come. Pam

Re: OT - animal communication - please just delete without reading.

2007-06-11 Thread Pam Norman
That scripture is lovely. If you have more, I'd like to see them. Pam Marylyn wrote: Just so there is no misunderstanding, animal communications is practiced by Christians as well as people of other beliefs and the Bible speaks of interspecies communications. Below is one of my favorite

Re: OT - animal communication - Religious Stuff

2007-06-11 Thread Pam Norman
. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: OT - animal communication - please just delete without reading. That scripture

Re: outdoor enclosures

2007-06-07 Thread Pam Norman
the door so they can't get through. a chain link fence guy can do that for you. We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2 enclosures we will have here. Dede --- Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have what I call a catiary cause it looks like an aviary

Re: To Cassandra and Kisa

2007-06-06 Thread Pam Norman
Just be sure she gets her doxy! Pam C J wrote: Thank you. So far so good. Kisa is eating mainly felidae canned right now, though she only eats when I hand feed her. When I try the foods she ate before she got sick, she shows an aversion to them now, even to the Tempations treats she

Sally

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
Sally, where are you? It's been raining here too hasn't for awhile. I know, too much coincidence for you to be here too but you never know. I'm in south central WI. And remember day lilies are very toxic to cats. Pam Sally Davis wrote: Nina Thanks for the inspiring story. My old

Re: Sally

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
live in grassy yards. I am a horticulturist by trade and education. So I give that as my qualification regarding daylily (hemerocallis) classification. We are getting remnants of TS Barry. Thanks for your concern. Sally On 6/3/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: outdoor enclosures

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
I have what I call a catiary cause it looks like an aviary. It was built at the same time as my deck so it could be incorporated into the plan. It's between a wing of the deck the house goes from ground level to roof level of single story house. The floor is concrete for cleaning - a

Re: outdoor enclosures

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2 enclosures we will have here. Dede --- Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have what I call a catiary cause it looks like an aviary. It was built at the same time as my deck so it could be incorporated into the plan. It's between a wing of the deck

Re: outdoor enclosures

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
. It's a bit pricy, but it does work well. Dede --- Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The PVC coated wire mesh works fine in Wisconsin fine in Utah. I don't see why it wouldn't work in NY! It's very strong, 4x4 coated wire. Pam dede hicken wrote: Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl. I

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
I find that the easiest way is to cut the tablet up put it in a small gelcap. Then roll the gelcap in cat food juices. Makes it slippery tastes good so they swallow! Not like sticking a nasty pill in that sticks someplace in the mouth to be spit out later on. Pam C J wrote: Yes i'm giving

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
when she was there. I am trying to coat it in butter, but cat food juice sounds good too. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I find that the easiest way

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Pam Norman
200 ml IS too much for her. Stay with 100 but be sure the prior watering is absorbed. Also she should still be on doxy. That is absolutely CRITICAL! For hemobart, she needs to be on it for a good 6 weeks. If she is not, then her HCT will keep dropping she will be in emergency need of a

Re: depressing!!.

2007-06-02 Thread Pam Norman
Well if you consider the lifespan of a well cared for indoor cat who gets checkups once a year bloodwork at least once a year, who may get diabetes or kidney disease or even cancer in older age who given the best medical care possible for same - you might get up to 22K by the time

Re: To Pam: Re: Anyone have experience with respiratory distress likely caused by anemia?

2007-06-01 Thread Pam Norman
for the route she takes. She certainly wouldn't harm Kisa intentionally. She loves her. With everything else she is dealing with, gentle guidance is what she needs from us. Urgent pleas will only add to the confusion and stress she and Kisa are already under. :) Wendy --- Pam Norman [EMAIL

Re: Something I found by accident

2007-06-01 Thread Pam Norman
Debbie, These photos are so pitiful! Those poor babies. So many with eye infections or even blind! It sounds as if progress is being made altho on the website, the deadlines are way past. Are these little ones getting treatment? Pam Debbie wrote: While looking at the net I stumbled upon

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread Pam Norman
Cassandra, I routinely give about 100 ml per day unless the cat is very small. Never give more fluids if what you have already given has not been absorbed. Usually it does not stay at the back of the neck but slides down under the belly against the back of the front leg. Sometimes down the

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread Pam Norman
Cassamdra. Do NOT attempt to express her bladder unless you are familiar with doing so! This is not something I would ever undertake without being sure I knew what I was doing as you can do real damage. Keep her litter fresh so that you can see what she pees if she is using the litter box.

Re: Kissa

2007-05-31 Thread Pam Norman
I totally agree. She is suffering all you can do for her now is to free her of this as soon as is humanly possible. Please. Pam Tracy Weese wrote: Please consider PTS as opposed to letting it just happen this difficulty breathing is distressful and painful. Tracy

Re: Anyone have experience with respiratory distress likely caused by anemia?

2007-05-31 Thread Pam Norman
I think you must realize that not being able to breathe properly is very frightening very grave. It is very very hard on her to not be able to breathe! Please take her to the vet or the ER let her go. She is so ill has deteriorated so far that trying to treat her any further is only

Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****

2007-05-29 Thread Pam Norman
Anita, that sounds more like spraying to me a direct reaction to the newcomers. Very common. In time hopefully it will decrease. I had to deal with it too for years. My piano was ruined needs total refinishing. But that can be done at some point. I can't cuddle my piano love it feel its

Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****

2007-05-29 Thread Pam Norman
Good, I'm glad you are going to write. Pam Melissa Lind wrote: Hi All, I haven't been able to respond lately since I've been super busy, but I had to read this pee thread--it hits close to home. Our Bandit started peeing in the heat vent--only one vent--for no apparent reason. We tried every

Re: Cassandra: Re: Hemobart

2007-05-29 Thread Pam Norman
Cassandra, When you go back tomorrow, you might ask them to give her at least 150 ml of subqs to make for the fluids she's lost in the vomiting. Have them teach you how to do it too get your supplied with the fluids, the IV setup needles. This is something you need to be able to do at

Re: Kelley

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
her after work. I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness? I'm really lost here. On 5/27/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And her eyes are not reactive? At all? If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes? P Kelley Saveika wrote: Well, she moved

Re: Kelley

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
to poke her in the eye that she should close them. On 5/28/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering too if she is blind. I don't know of seizures can cause that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close

Re: A little more on the topic of pee

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
The toaster oven is NOT safe UNLESS you remember to ALWAYS close the door! My Sunset became annoyed when I went out of town overnight she peed into the toaster oven. I didn't suspect a thing until I tried to toast an English muffin. The stench was horrible! So do NOT assume that toaster

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
I almost lost a precious one, my boyfriend kitty, to hemobart a few years ago. It was really scary. He had a high fever, his liver values were up, his HCT went down like a rock. But doxycycline saved his life. It is THE drug for hemobart. I would think that the combination of the doxy, the

Re: A little more on the topic of pee

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
Had to laugh at this! It never ceases to amaze me how creative kitties can be! Pam Susan Hoffman wrote: Oh, we always close the door. Same with the microwave. We close doors on toaster ovens and microwaves to protect the food that we've hidden from the cats. My mother was punished this

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
Cassanndra. She MUST stay on the doxy! Be sure you have enough for a minimum of 4 weeks after she is home. Hemobart is a really nasty bug if you stop the doxy, it will come right back. Pam C J wrote: They can't do the needle biospy here, they don't have the equipment. I'm thinking

Re: Cassandra: Re: Hemobart

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
You can find more about hemobart on the feline anemia list. A number of people over there have dealt with it. I just know that doxycycline saved Gus's life after he spent a week in the ICU at the U of WI vet hospital in Madison. It was pretty awful because his brother had died there only a

Re: A little more on the topic of pee

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
Please do tell!! Susan Hoffman wrote: When I have a little more time, remind me to type up the Poop Fairy story. (Subtitle: How Spot trained my roommate to give her strawberry ice cream and bacon and to never, never again spray her with water to get her off his desk.) They hold

Re: Please add Scamper to the CLS list

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
Sam, may his road be lit by the radiance of the love that you obviously have for him. He the others will be there when you cross that bridge. Sylvia Browne says that when we cross, that friends relatives must stand back wait while the animals greet us. They are first. As they should be.

Re: Plastic bags

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
What we should do is to bring our own reusable bags when we shop. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 08:13 PM 5/26/2007, you wrote: Why can we lobby to have them made of a thin cardboard so they will biodegrade..I hate them!! While on this subject, don't forget to cut through the handles of all

Re: Plastic bags

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Plastic bags While

Re: Plastic bags

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
I do the same thing with my used litter, then tie the bag shut, cut the handles put them in a commercial dumpster near where I feed my ferals. Pam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: */Wow didn't think this subject would last this long./* *//* */Anyway, I recycle my plastic bags. I dump dirty cat

Re: Thinking of Caroline

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
Apparently it can. When JuneAmy was with me started having seizures, that was one of the things we tested for. In her case we never found the reason because the lymphoma took her so soon after she got here. Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Does toxo usually cause seizures??? On 5/27/07, Diane

Re: To Cassandra Re: Kisa

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
You should be giving her subqs at least! You are fast approaching the point, if not already there yet, where if you are not going to put in a tube to feed her you are not going to consult an oncologist, that continuing as she is now would be only prolonging her suffering. She is not going

Re: To Cassandra Re: Kisa

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
You can call THEM in the middle of the night ask how she is! That's what I would do. No, they will not insert a tube to tube feed her unless you ask them to. They can't put in a naso-esophageal tube when she is vomiting, so the only one that they can put in is one that bypasses the

Kelley

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive? Have you ever had a cat before that had seizures? My Paddy, who is now 22, had one about

Re: Kelley

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
. On 5/27/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive? Have you ever had a cat before that had seizures

Re: Kelley

2007-05-27 Thread Pam Norman
And her eyes are not reactive? At all? If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes? P Kelley Saveika wrote: Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there.. On 5/27/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED

Plastic bags

2007-05-26 Thread Pam Norman
While on this subject, don't forget to cut through the handles of all plastic actually ANY bags before trashing them. Stray cats can get their heads caught in the handles strangle. So please please cut those loops! For the same reason, cut through the loops of the plastic things holding

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Pam Norman
of potassium and vegetable oil to, and blend up. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Do they mean cancer or do they mean lymphoma? Because if lymphoma, you can treat

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-24 Thread Pam Norman
Cassandra, Please join the AssistedFeeding list on y ahoogroups. Also you may have to consider a feeding tube for Kisa. It is essential that she get food if she is throwing it up, the only thing left may be tube feeding. It is not the bugaboo that many think. I tube fed Otto for 6 weeks it

Re: Benjamin and Sasquatch

2007-05-23 Thread Pam Norman
Where is it? And where did the name come from? Pam Sherry DeHaan wrote: It is called Crash's Landing and Sids.Sids is the felv and fiv kitties.And Crash's is where the 100 or more disease free kitties are.I volunteer at both.And love them ALL!! :) */Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-23 Thread Pam Norman
Food is very very important. Cats cannot go without food for very long without running the risk of feline hepatic lipidosis which is what you do NOT want to have to deal with on top of everything else. You must get her to eat a good high calorie diet whether you finger feed, spoonfeed,

Re: Great Snake evening excitement

2007-05-23 Thread Pam Norman
my sympathies. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I

Re: Great Snake evening excitement

2007-05-23 Thread Pam Norman
blocked the details. ;-) Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement Diane, How was it cured? How long did she have

Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee - and still more pee

2007-05-22 Thread Pam Norman
Well, it might just keep them all so distracted that Sammy wouldn't think to search out the purse! Pam MaryChristine wrote: only this group would think that adding more cats could solve a cat problem! On 5/22/07, *Susan Hoffman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Throw

Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee - and still more pee

2007-05-22 Thread Pam Norman
Hey, I've got 10! It seems to be my number! It's a little bit nuts at dinner time. But no pee problems. Yet. Pam Nina wrote: Yea, I remember 5 fondly. I also remember thinking how crazy it was to have so many cats. I guess there's crazy and then there's CRAZY. N MaryChristine wrote: i

Re: OT: on the subject of pee (long)

2007-05-22 Thread Pam Norman
Nina, where did you get the rollaway kitty condo? Pam Nina wrote: Diane I feel for you, your housemate and of course Doyle. I think it's a good idea to give Doyle his own space when you're not home, or when he's not directly under your protection. I've used the feliway stuff too, (I did

Re: Great Snake evening excitement

2007-05-22 Thread Pam Norman
I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again

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