Re: OT:Adoption Gift Bags..I've been doing this for yrs on myadoptions...Free
We have been doing this for a few years also and I love these people! The bags are big enough to fit a few of our brochures and a sample bag of food in too. We just received another shipment about a week ago. Sadly, not the BEST of the BEST, but still so generous I will never complain. This group of kits had an Arm Hammer pamphlet with coupons for $1.00 off any clumping litter of theirs and $0.50 off their litter deodorizer. The freebie was a cute little brown catnip filled mouse with the Arm Hammer logo on it. My favorite kit so far was the mini sample box of Arm Hammer litter deodorizer plus a little packet of two Clorox wipes, along with a huge packet of coupons from many different brands. It ebbs and flows though with which corporate sponsors they have participating. Yes, the brands are worthwhile IMO - P G, Unilever, Johnson Johnson, Arm Hammer, SC Johnson, ConAgra... The adopters seem to love the kits. I definitely second the recommendation to join if you haven't. It's well worth it! Rachel Operation Foster Felixwww.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes Kitten (n): 1. small homicidal muffin on legs; affects human sensibilities to the point of endowing the most wanton and ruthless acts of destruction with near-mythical overtones of cuteness. A meow massages the heart. -- Stuart McMillan On 6/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what brands of products do you generally get in these? anything actually high quality enough to want to use? Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
Re: test results
I've mixed it with gruel and dosed it with a syringe in the batch of FeLV kittens I have in rescue right now. Works like a charm. I probably won't bother even trying to mix with wet food and offer it to them free choice as I hate the idea of them refusing and seeing it go to waste. Good luck! Rachel On 6/5/06, Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ashleigh,Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth orspring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella.Lance
Re: Free microchip readers
Thanks for this information Gary! We could definitely use another scanner for the mobile TNR program we help run. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felixwww.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter-boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/26/06, gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crystal Tag along with Banfield is giving free universal chip readers to shelters. These will read HomeAgain, Avid and Banfield chips. You can check at the website http://www.crystaltag.com but I called them and they said to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that contains the following info: Number of scanners requested Name of organization Address (no PO Box numbers) Phone Name and position of person making request Gary
Re: Bella's Visit with a New Vet - (vaccination)
There aren't actually two different vaccines, just different protocols. Some states require annual vaccinations, some require only every 3 years. Some studies have shown that the rabies vaccines may have up to a 7 year immunization value. Scary to think how over-vaccinated some pets are actually getting, especially those receiving yearly rabies vaccinations. Sounds like you've found yourself a good vet! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.org Sharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes We are in desperate need of funds for FeLV testing and related care for a Special Op, please consider donating through our home page. Even the smallest amount helps ! One must love a cat on its' own terms. ~ Paul Gray On 5/15/06, Ashleigh Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you, Nina. I had a cat actually DIE from over-vaccination. He got a vaccine-induced fibrosarcoma on his neck. We had surgery done on him, but the cancer returned. He went downhill very fast. I'm glad my new vet says that every three years is perfectly fine :-) ~Ashleigh Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two different rabies vaccines, one is good for 3 years and another is an annual shot. Don't get me started on the whole over-vaccination thing. I've got an IBD girl who almost died because of over-vaccination. There's just no reason to keep pumping our babies with poison, except maybe paranoia and the veterinary community desiring an excuse to have you visit the office at least once a year. NinaJennifer Ross wrote: Interesting that Mississippi requires rabies annually-- PA and CT (the 2 states where I have had cats) only requires every 3 years for rabies. My vets have always stuck to that, but recommended annual distemper (?sp) and leukemia (a lot of good that annual leukemia shot did Allie!) Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. -- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made. ~ M. Facklam
Re: Rachel's ramble
Awww THANK YOU Nina! I pray the feral Momma (she's a Persian mix BTW) is negative. If she's positive, I'll have a really hard time placing her. I don't know of any feral positive colonies to put her in and she's old (at least 6-7) so rehab would be so time intensive, something I don't have the time or resources to commit to with all the other kitties I have. It would be best if she were negative and I could just TNR her, get her back to health and let her go in a feral colony. Thank you for keeping us your prayers! We're big believers in the power of prayer around here! I'll keep you updated on when I find the kittens. I've been going back to the home every few days searching, but I don't ever hear them, which concerns me. Hugs,Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh honey, go ahead and ramble away! It sounds like you've got you're hands full fighting the good fight. Who are you going to vent to except those of us that care just as deeply? I'm sorry about the little felv+ that didn't make it and pleased to hear about the one that seems to be bouncing back despite the odds. You must be one great cat caregiver! That poor feral Momma may not be positive. Life on the street, as I'm sure you know, can be so hard on these little angels. Unfortunately sickly kittens are not that unusual under the circumstances, and so many, even healthy seeming kittens born on the street, don't make it through their first year. That poor Momma must be so worn out! Keep good thoughts, I'll be sending prayers and good thoughts your way as well. Let us know if you find her kittens and when you finally catch her. Bless you for all you do,NinaRachel Martineau wrote: I'm in Dayton, OH. Two of the adults are asymptomatic and healthy as can be. One was a light positive so I'm praying that a retest will be negative. I originally pulled two adults, one who is still with me and recovering from a ton of infections and slowing improving. Sadly the other little guy had a ruptured bladder and it was too late for him. All of these cats came from the same home, where there were other cats that tested negative. There is another female on the property who recently had a litter (3 weeks) in a garage. She is a purely feral though and I can't locate the kittens. The garage is a maze and I don't want to trap her yet in case I can't find the babies. From what I've been told, she is has been around for at least 6 years and had litter upon litter, most who die or that look miserable. She herself looks terrible and I have a sick feeling she is positive as well. Sorry to ramble, but thank you for asking. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /where are you Rachel? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awww Tad, BLESS YOU!!! I wish there were more people out there like you! I have 3 adult FeLV+ and a whole litter of 8 week old kittens in rescue that need homes. Sometimes it seems like an impossible feat to find them homes, but seeing messages like this make my day. Purrs and headbutts from the whole clan here! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George
Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!!
I'm in Dayton, OH. Two of the adults are asymptomatic and healthy as can be. One was a light positive so I'm praying that a retest will be negative. I originally pulled two adults, one who is still with me and recovering from a ton of infections and slowing improving. Sadly the other little guy had a ruptured bladder and it was too late for him. All of these cats came from the same home, where there were other cats that tested negative. There is another female on the property who recently had a litter (3 weeks) in a garage. She is a purely feral though and I can't locate the kittens. The garage is a maze and I don't want to trap her yet in case I can't find the babies. From what I've been told, she is has been around for at least 6 years and had litter upon litter, most who die or that look miserable. She herself looks terrible and I have a sick feeling she is positive as well. Sorry to ramble, but thank you for asking. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /where are you Rachel? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awww Tad, BLESS YOU!!! I wish there were more people out there like you! I have 3 adult FeLV+ and a whole litter of 8 week old kittens in rescue that need homes. Sometimes it seems like an impossible feat to find them homes, but seeing messages like this make my day. Purrs and headbutts from the whole clan here! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: RE: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Tad-you're amazing. Not only would Switters love it—the old guys would probably love for him to have somebody else to play with—I'm sure they'd be happy refereeing and watching! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tad BurnettSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! I bet Switters would like a young boy.. Switters is almost a year old and super active...Don't let him be euthanized... If no one else will take him and he can get to Vermont we can make space here...Tad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will find out location soon. This was a forward from another rescue group. Can anyone help this kitty? From: Becky McCaffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:48 PMTo: Susan Linker; Sarkosi,Diana A; Pet ProtectorsCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Bert is a very sweet FeLV+ kitty who is almost a year old. He is scheduled to be euthanized soon-he needs help ASAP!! He has been looking for a home since he was two months old. Here is his story: PLEASE HELP BERT!!! HE IS IN DIRE STRAITS!! Bert is a very sweet, friendly little guy who has tested positive for feline leukemia. Cats with leukemia can still have a good life, and we hope that this will be the case for poor little Bert. He currently appears to be in very good health. He is very playful and affectionate, and is DESPERATELY seeking a home. Bert has been fully vaccinated and neutered. If you would like to give this sweet little boy a chance to live a good life, please send an e-mail and request an application, or call the shelter. Don't pass him by and think that someone ELSE will surely adopt him-LET IT BE YOU Bert was adopted last year along with his FeLV+ friend Jill by a woman who turned out to be bi-polar, and he was returned to the shelter. His best friend Jill was soon adopted out again, leaving Bert behind. Bert is scheduled to be euthanized soon-PLEASE help him!! Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue-- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made.~ M. Facklam
Re: Lysine question
I'm just speaking from my personal recent experience and what I was told by my holistic MD (human doc who I see for thyroid). I don't have a holistic vet in my area that I go to, so I asked her. The first FeLV+ rescue I took in recently was doing really poorly on the topical and oral antibiotics for a herpeseye infection. I am not a huge fan of using antibiotics and have used Lysine myself for cold sores in the winter. I had been giving him 500 mg of Lysine in wet food once a day, but still he wasn't improving very fast. I can't remember who (I'm sorry, but THANK YOU) on this group gave me the advice to bump it up to 1000 mg a day and start giving him Felivite II also. 1000 mg seemed like an awful lot for a tiny kitty. He had severe anemia from flea infestation as well so he was a miserable 7 pounds. My doc said Lysine has little toxicity since it's an amino acid. It CAN increase the toxicity of certain medication and long term in high doses has shown a tendency to cause gallstones in humans (though she didn't know how likely this was in animals). It doesn't cause stomach upset. Peanut has been on 1000 mg of Lysine in two divided doses for nearly 2 weeks, along with the Felivite II. She also recommended I add Pau d' Arco once a day to his food and use a few drops of Goldenseal with his eyewash when cleaning the gunk from his eyes. It has worked wonders, better than I expected. In just a couple of days, his eyes were almost clear. He has started putting on weight fast. He's now up to almost 9 pounds and just looks so much healthier. Anyway, if you can find a holistic vet or even a human nutritionist to call, it might make you feel better about giving Lysine in that dose. I wasn't seeing improvement at 500 mg, which was just my experience. Good luck! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carmen, Did you mean to send me this message individually, because that is how it was sent. I do not even think I weighed in on the recent lysine discussion, so I think maybe it was a mis-send? I do know that a lot of people in this group have given their cats 500 mg per day, though, and that this is a standard. It is true that cats are smaller, but they handle certain things differently (for instance they can handle way way more steroids proportionally than we can), and also I am not sure that taking extra lysine is actually toxic. Michelle In a message dated 5/13/2006 1:39:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a quick response to your cat taking lysine. 500 mg is what is to be given to humans at a humans average body weight. NOT a little animals! So if you are giving 500mg to a small animal ( cat averagesabout 8 to 15 lbs,) that is way out of proportion to itsbody weight to ratio . And you stated you are or where administering this supplement everyday. This is got to beway to much for the animal. This could lead to some toxicity reaction. Or just the animal not feeling to good. I would not give a cat or dog Over 250 mg a day. Think of the animals stomach. There stomachs are not built like a humans at all. Also did you ever think of crushing the pill and mixing in the food. good luck -- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made. ~ M. Facklam
Re: Bailey has gone home
Belinda, My thoughts are with you. The pain you feel we all have felt or will; but the legacy you have created because of Bailey is absolutely unique, and will endure; and every purrful snuggle made possible by your work is a testament to the life and the spirit of one remarkable cat. His passing leaves a void for you. But his having lived continues to fill a void for cats and their people across the world. Purrs and headbutts during your time of healing from all of us at Op Felix. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.org Sharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George
Re: mixing
I've had good luck with keeping them my semi-ferals dosed up with Rescue Remedy for a week or so when introducing them into my foster communities under stress. It's cheaper than Feliway in the quantities I use it in. Good luck to you sweetie! On 5/2/06, Dudes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much for all of your advice, Nina.I am so appreciative, andwill definitely give it all a try.RR and more Feliway, coming up! But I have to say, Cotton is not at all stressed .He's a happy, cheerfullittle guy. He protests loudly when he doesn't get his way, but he's quicklydiverted.In fact, he is practically humming when he is being naughty, most of the time!Many times when he bites, he's purring!He will put his lipson me (leg, arm, chin), and I can feel the vibrations of him purring as wellas hear him, and then just as a smile emerges on my face, he bites.Usually it's not hard.But it's annoying, and I tell him he's rude.And we are alittle wiser to that move now!We tap him on the nose and say NO.He'slearning.It is Cricket who is afraid, a bit neurotic and stressed. Unfortunately, Cricket spends all of her time out sniffing where Cotton'sbeen and looking for him.When she finds him, she gets agitated, she hissesand growls and tries to get at at him under the door. I try not to nurture her insecurities, but to give her as much alone timeand extra love and treats when she is calm.We have a plan.We are going to try to reintroduce Cotton and Cricket incarriers from far away, so they can look at each other.I think the Feliway will be a great addition to this little exercize.When they seemcomfortable, we will try to give treats, love, and then move them each alittle closer and closer each time, to try to create positive associations while in each other's presence.We will keep trying.If you remember, I was telling the list that a fewyears ago, I worked with my oldest girl, Miss for 6 months, carrying her andrewarding her for being brave before she decided it was safe to come out of the bedroom because she was fighting- WITH CRICKET.I'm afraid Cricket ismy problem cat.But she worked it out with Miss, so I think if we arepatient, this will work out too.I just hope me sharing some of my experiences will be of help to someone else somewhere having similar problems.Wish me luck!Sandy, Cotton, Cricket, Miss and Myca- Original Message -From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:35 AMSubject: Re: mixing Just another thought...I've been adding RR, just a few drops to all the water bowls, it might be my imagination, but it seems to help.It sounds like Cotton is pretty high strung, (biting his humans, I'm assuming when he's had enough attention, but not giving you adequate warning that it's coming, fighting etc.).-- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made. ~ M. Facklam
Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?
I have the sweetest little FeLV+ lion in foster right now. Peanut came to me from a hoarder situation in terrible shape with another FeLV+ guy who we lost the same day to a ruptured bladder. He has improved a lot, but still has this nasty herpes conjunctivitis that just will not clear up! He's off all antibiotics, which I only use when it's dire. I'm open to any suggestions - herbal, mineral, vitamins, etc... Anything that's worked for someone in the past, I'll try. Thanks! Rachel Operation Foster Felix
Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?
I've been giving him L-Lysine 500 mg for 3 weeks. I'll try bumping that up to 1000 mg and see how he does. I've never tried the Felivite 2, so I'll give that a try too. Thanks forall the suggestions and details Jenn! On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Greek sponsor cat ( http://ucat.us/Tremy/) is having GREAT results using the below treatment course for his Herpes Virus infection: One treatment is Interferon and L-Lysine(which is an immune system booster to help his own body fight it off). Interferon is available from a vet, but L-Lysine is over the counter (you can find it at a health food store). A treatment for the active infection would be Acyclovir (Zovirax) which is an oral anti-viral and an antibiotic (either Doxycycline, Azithromycin or Rifampin). Those used in conjunction with Vit A supplementation and Viroptic eye drops (or Idoxuride/Betadine eye drops or Chloramphenical eye drops since Viroptic is expensive) really work great to clear up the active infection. Once cleared, the patient should remain on the Vit A, Interferon and L-Lysine to prevent future recurrences. They should also be kept stress-free. Of course, you should always get the permission form the vet before doing any of this. Similar diseases (that cause similar symptoms) are Bartonella, Chlamydia, and Mycoplasma (all of which can occur along with Herpes). L-Lysine 500mg twice a dayInterferon 10 units orally once a day for 7 days, stop for 7 days, then give 10 units orally once daily for 7 days (and so one)Doxycycline 5 mg per pound twice daily for 6 weeksAzithromycin 5 mg per pound once daily for 21 days Rifampin 5 mg per pound once a day for 21 days For Vit A supplement you can use Felivite 2 with Taurine (it contains Vit A as well as a few others to help with immune boosting)Eye Drops are usually dosed three times a day (use caution to use NOTHING containing a steroid as steroids will actually aggravate the eye and make it worse) All of these dosages came from The Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association Jan/Feb 2004, pg 6-12 Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006-- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made.~ M. Facklam
Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?
Really? I didn't realize you could give it directly in the eye. Hmmm, definitely something I'm going to suggest to the vet if upping the Lysine and adding Felivite don't show some improvement soon. Thanks Karen! On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rachel, I used the human interferon directly in the eyes. believe it or not it works. Karen
Re: positive
Oh Carrie...stop beating yourself up! The fact is, you are a kind soul doing the best you can! Truth be told, NO test, including the IFA is 100% accurate. Truth be told, I have had POSITIVES go NEGATIVE in my care. Truth be told, I am past the point of putting too much stock in these darn tests anymore, because I know that with exceptional diet, supplements and care, ANY FeLV and FIV +cat can live a very LONG, happy, healthy life! The diseases are not death sentences, as you've heard over and over from this list. My suggestion, start reading. I have a huge list of books I recommend on holistic supplements and diets that have done wonders for the rescues and fosters in my care. I will gladly forward you the list if you'd like. Move forward with a game plan on how to keep your clan healthy. Dwelling on the negative energy these tests bring is so draining. God Bless, Rachel - Original Message - From: hd cc To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:41 PM Subject: Re: positive Sad, I euthanized the first one that showed positive, once more started showing positive I decided to wait and not euthanize any! But now I feel s bad and s guilty having her put down,SHAME ON ME, I didnt know. I want to cry 8-(( Yes they are all elisa test Working on IFA test monday. IF the IFA test is positive is that A FOR SURE? If it is negative what does that mean? Carrie - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: positive No test is 100% accurate. Are you using ELISA or IFA? The ELISA test is far less accurate, has a much higher number of falses positives. I'm sure you can get false negatives too. Also, it is possible to get a negative on a blood test if the virus is in the bone marrow. (I have very little faith in the ELISA test, especially where a cat is very young or very old, or is ill or otherwise stressed.)hd cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THIS IS GOOD NEWS, I HOPE YOUR RIGHT! My cats are adults, healthy, vaccinated and vaccinated. This makes no since!2 are at a year old and tested both neg one tested neg in dec 27th, now positive... Whatever has happened here has happened in the last 3 months, this is how current it is that I know of, SO with that said I have some hope, especially with my adult cat 3 years old I think, maybe 4, he is BIG healthy and strong No reason for this! The one I put to sleep has been tested 5 times ALL neg and now positive! Her momma was FIV so when she was little she to tested positive for FIV, every month I tested her, at 6 months her and her sister were neg. Now her sister is still Neg for both and she is FELV positive, my vet cant even make since out of this at all, no one knows what to think Ijust know it has just recently started, no mating, no fightingCarrie - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:20 AM Subject: Re: positive yeah, well, that IS the question 70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw it off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen if it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with whom!) the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really believe either a negative OR a positive result this means that cats who have been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be killed in the shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have either the information or the facilities to hold the kitty for retesting; if also means that a stray from the streets who tests negative may still have been exposed in the recent past and may test positive later on even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was originally!--that in rare cases the time for an IFA to go back to negative was up to 7 months following exposure. i have never heard of a documented case of a vaccinated negative cat turning positive from living, closely, with positives i do know of a number of cats who originally tested positive (back before people knew to retest) who did indeed test negative months and even years after they'd gone to live in positive-only environments--so clearly, they were healthy