tHE ONLY PROBLEM MY GUYS HAVE IS BOREDOM. iT HAS BEEN COLD, SNOWY AND WINDY.
HARLEY WHO USUALLY GOES OUT NO MATTER WHAT JUST GOES TO THE DOOR, THE WIND HITS
HIM AND HE BACKS UP. WE HAVE LOTS OF AMAZON BOXES, TUNNELS AND A LIGHT TO
CHASE.
Lorrie wrote:
>
>
Are vet schools doing much to find a cure?
Amani Oakley wrote:
> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted
> cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
>
Re: spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then it
is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter. I do not want to be a
contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier
lives.
Margo wrote:
>
Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I took
Annie in.
Ardy Robertson wrote:
> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his
> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed
I have had feral and dump cats for over 40 years, including 4 FELV cats. I
have never had to wash anything when one of them passed. None of my FELV
negative cats ever contracted the disease and all have died of old age
including Annie who was FELV and over 10 years. They eat from the same
Times like this I would like to be able to just slug them without suffering the
consequences.
Maybe they should get their ears washed out and their minds opened up.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> Totally irate. It was just so clear that they weren't prepared to look at
>
Dear, sweet Krammer, you lived and loved well, time for your reward.
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Thank you.
kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:
> I found them. I'll edit out address material and put all the pieces together
> as one dossier on the subject. Looks like you've done a massive amount of
> research! I believe if we offer this to our vets, they just may start to take
> nbotice. I'll
I also like this.
Margo wrote:
>
Hi Ken,
Would you be willing to share your compilation so others could print for
their Vets, as well? I keep trying to get it all together, but I can't seem to
be cohesive.
I think it would be very helpful :)
That is one step in the right direction and who knows she might just do some
research or read your information and change her mind.
Margo wrote:
>
Prenisolone and prednisone are interchangeable. Most Vet's (mine is not one)
believe that prednisolone is
Good for you! That is what I did and my vet was impressed with the amount of
information and said it certainly was worth investigating. More people should
give vets a nudge to get them to research before saying no.
kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:
> Dear Kitty Friends,
> I've attached a
als, despite all the stupid
> humans abusing of it.
> And thanks to Ardy, Sandy, Amani, Lorrie, dlgegg and you all for the support.
> Marlène and Microbo
>
>
>
> [cid:1c57407f-6d40-4c55-874f-2de3209e986e@eurprd09.prod.outlook.com]
>
>
>
>
> Inviato da iP
Prayers for you and your baby.
marlene melpignano wrote:
> Dear all,
> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I
> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome
> myself on Saturday, he also said it is
Amani Oakley wrote:
> Marlene
>
> The suggestion of Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone has been used repeatedly on cats
> with leukemia and lymphoma. Also, Winstrol is very helpful when a cat is not
> eating. Unfortunately, though there are other steroids, I am not
Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn. I have had no
problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
marlene melpignano wrote:
> Dear All,
> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a
> leukemia (in
I told my vet about the winnstrol treatment and she has agreed to give it a try
if ever needed, may even try on other cats if owners want it.
Ardy Robertson wrote:
> Hi Marlene,
> I used Interferon with and without Prednisolone on my beloved Tigger
> --nothing
This malady seems to affect all of us these days. dorlis
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Amani...
NO problem... I'm the LAST person to take issue with temporary
inability to summon up the correct name Often times these days I
draw a blank on people I know relatively
lAt least they brought them to the shelter.
kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:
> Hi Kat,
> I live in Dubuque, Iowa and when I talked to the staff they said no notes
> were attached. The cats were all relatively healthy; many had fleas, but were
> otherwise fine. There were two nursing momma cats,
yOU ARE RIGHT. iF YOU WAIT FOR GRIEVING TO PASS, A KITTEN MAY DIE. Right now
is the time to get another one to help in the grieving process.
kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:
> How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words
> about Zorro. We are going to the shelter
I feel for you loosing 3 in one year, it is hard enough to just loose one a
year. Anie was my last to go. Hoepfully Harley, Dee and Homie are healthy and
will live long lives. I am the one with problems, went in for routine visit
and was sent to cardioligist who told me I needed surgery. I
GREAT NEWS! NICE TO HEAR THIS IN TODAY'S WORLD OF ALL BAD NEWS.
DORLIS
Ardy Robertson wrote:
> Hi - just to update everyone, little "Lucky" that was tossed out of the car
> and hit the windshield of my granddaughter's friend, Rachel, seems to have
> fully
On a farm Lucky should have no problem with food. My Harley loves to hunt and
keep down the mice, moles, voles and shrews, rabbits and squirrels. He does
not always catch them, but gets his exercise trying. Sounds like God
intervened and let him hit the right car. Dorlis
Ardy
ARDY, PETSMART HAS A PROGRAM THAT THEY DONATE FOOD TO NEEDY CATS AND DOGS WHEN
WE BUY FOOD FROM THEM, ANY BRAND. SHE COULD CONTACT THEM FOR HELP ON FOOD.
DORLIS
Amani Oakley wrote:
> Wonderful Ardy. Now to find the b@$1@r+ who did this to him so we can ensure
IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE COULD THROW HIM OUT AT 60 MILES AN HOUR. DORLIS
Ardy Robertson wrote:
> Agreed!!
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:12 PM
> To:
IT SHOULD BE DONE TO THEM, BUT WE WOULD BE ARRESTED , THEY WOULD ONLY GET A TAP
ON THE HAND AND BE TOLD THEY WERE NAUGHTY. DORLIS
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Ardy
> You have a much more even temperment than me when it comes to such
> matters There is NO
AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY USUALLY ALSO DO THIS TO PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THEIR
FAMILIES. I TALKED TO AN INVESTIGATOR FOR HUMAND SOCIETY AND HE USUALLY END UP
REPORTING SPOUSE OR CHILD ABUSE IN SAME HOME WITH ANIMAL ABUSE. DORLIS
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hasn't happened, still 1 more test on the 7th. I am glad they are being
through, but am getting tired of waiting and not being able to do anything.
Jennifer Olson wrote:
> How are YOU dlegg after your surgery?
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good idea! will do this from now on. Dorlis
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit
reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the
posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have
If onlyeveryone who has a cat or dog would get them spayed/neutered there
would not be so many for us to care for. I have heard all kinds of excuses
like it costs so much. If they did get their pets spayed/neutered they would
not have the work involved in getting rid of them. When a new
HELLO, MY FAULT. I FORGOT TO PUT MY NAME IN THERE. DORLIS GROTE
I am lucky that a member of my church is going to take care of my babies while
I am in the hospital for the surgery. She is also taking me in and picking me
up afterwards. Plus getting groceries and doing any needed laundry
I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re: felv treatment.
Sandy wrote:
>
> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to
> have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they
> seek to
I get a lot of drop offs too. People seem to think that left in a farming
area, they can fend for themselves, even the de clawed ones.
"Armstrong-Brown wrote:
> No one helps me Bob. I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get
> the discount on all the cats. It's still very
I have mixed positive and negative cats for years and no negatives have
contracted the disease. They share beds (mine) bowls and boxes. At first when
the negatives were young, I had them vacinnated, now I do not they are all at
least 13 years old.
Marlene Snowman
pRAYERS FOR EVERY ONE.
Jennifer Olson wrote:
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I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH MAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN BUSY PREPARING FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY
AND MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR CARE FOR THE CATS AND MY GARDEN. MEMBERS OF THE
CHURCH ARE GOING TO HELP ME WHEN I COME HOME FROM SURGERY AND THE DOCTOR TOLD
ME I CAN FEED, WATER AND CLEAN BOXES AND FIX MY OWN MEALS
Sheri Burbridge wrote:
> Hi there! Things have been quiet around here but I was sincerely hoping
> that meant everyone was doing really well!
>
> Bob, I'm glad to hear little Gilbert is still with you and comfortable
> despite his prognosis. How wonderful that he has
I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and
> being called
They do get under our skin and become a necessary to our lives. I have 3 15
pounders who think I am a mattress for them to sleep on. Thank God they take
turns. Does Gilbert like to KNEED a lot? Homey gets into a trance and digs
deeply so I have had to explain to doctors what all those
I have learned from Annie and others that I need to check out every
possibility, not just the obvious. Had I done so, we might have caught the
kidney problem in time. My vet has since done some research and found that
with FELV cats, kidney problem are one of the first signs, just sorry that
Prayer does a lot, I know. I was supposed to die over 12 years ago from 4th
stage cancer.
Gloria wrote:
> I agree about Preventing Stress whenever we can!
>
> I've chosen _not knowing_ for sure just because of that very thing - (stress
> of vet visits &
Thanks. I got started with amazon when I broke my arm and could not carry
heavy bags of liter and food and just stayed there. Will check out Chewy.
Gloria wrote:
> Topic was l-lysine FYI 邏
>
> I shop Amazon, Petflow, and many other online pet supply stores and
Okay, I am convinced. Next question is where do you get the safe stuff. There
are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady seller.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some cannabis
> oil I had
I agree on the cannibinol. I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making
it legal saying it is for medical reasons. It can't be all that wonderful,
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
>
Amy
I'm not able
That is the important thing, did it work for you. That is how I judge nay
thing I take.
Marilyn Knapp Litt wrote:
> Well put! My philosophy exactly. I am doing what I can and what can I do if
> I accept that common remedies do not work? For example I take
I am wondering if colloidial silver would help. I am soon going in for heart
surgery and am taking mine with me to super bug infections. Can cats take
this? Just a thought.
Marilyn Knapp Litt wrote:
> Has anyone used these for FeLV?
>
>
>
> My kitty,
I am keeping my vet up to date on things that have worked in the past for other
FELV kitties so she can add them to her arsenal and study them on her own. I
am so glad to have found someone who is willing to work with me and at least
check it out for herself.
Ardy Robertson
Just like in human medicine, things help one problem and cause another. It
seems to come down to which problem is the worst or least bad. Just read in
Mercola about gene editing to change a person's genetic code. There are
unwanted edits which can be harmful. To make a decision for our
Anything that avoids putting things into their mouths is good by me. Even
Annie as sick as she was, she fought like a full grown tiger. It was hard to
hold her and administer the meds at the same time and I did not know anyone who
was willing to help me. Plus, she was is such a state by the
I am planning to send my babies to Rustic Hollow in Iowa when I pass away.
They do ask a fee, but my guys are on special food and this has to cover vet
bills also since they will be there for the rest of their lives. All things
considered, it is not too high for me to be sure my babies will
While you are away from home, you could place pillows or soft mats around his
favorite up high places in case he falls and block off stairs. This way he
could still be free to roam. I hope you will find some meds for him and he can
be close to you when the time comes. As for not getting
The doctor said she felt the one kidney was enlarged and firm. She got so
stressed from the bloodwork that she was given oxygen for 5 minutes. They also
gave her fluids and I brought a bag home to give her more every 3 days. By the
time I got home, she had perked up and ate a small can of
I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She
did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a
growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be
in pain no longer.
Amani Oakley
THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical
> finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The
> total
We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped
eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids.
The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2
times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on
Not only care for pets, but their fellow humans.
Ardy Robertson wrote:
> I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of
> them started being cruel to animals as young children.
>
> It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle
It pays to investigate and be sure. Don't always accept what someone tells
you.
Lorrie wrote:
> Thank you Amani. This was such a wonderful story.
>
> Lorrie
>
> On 05-26, Amani Oakley wrote:
>
>
> > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a
Sadly, this will not stop them. When I reported someone for animal abuse, the
investigator said most likely when he makes his report, he includes child,
elder or spouse abuse also. These people are ill, enjoy hurting someone who
cannot defend themselves.
Lorrie
It is frustrating. People say they are just animals, but even so, they deserve
respect and kindness. Lest we forget that science considers us animals
descended from apes. Does that mean we do not deserve kindness and respect.
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Jennifer...
I have to get one of those plaques, really do need one or maybe more to put in
each room
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Sorry for you and Martin. He is at peace now. Grieve for a while and it will
get better.
rosebudcocopuff wrote:
> My sweet, beautiful, Martinjust one yr. Of age lost his fight on
> Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy. Always remembered,
I agree completely. I think that these people who do this also do so unto
their fellow humans. One thing they lack is the love of God.
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
>
I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling
how someone could NOT care about
It is had not to hate those who dump kittens and puppies. All they ahve to do
is get their female spayed. Worse yet are those who use kittens and puppies to
train pitbull fighting dogs. We are beginning to close in on those people in
our county, but there still remain those who say the are
People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady". I gladly claim this
title.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like
> hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul
These little ones give so much more to us than we give to them. They have kept
me going in some dark days and been such a comfort to me. They are worth every
hour and penny spent.
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Glad to hear Violet is doing better. I had not hear from anyone lately and was
wondering wht was up.
Sandy wrote:
> Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails!
> Hope everyone has a safe weekend!
> Sandy W
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From:
Dogs are family also.
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
>
> Hello All:
> While I know that our group is about cats... lately friends and family
> have been losing their long time canine companions I cam across
> the piece below quite by mistake but it moved me enough to
So beautiful. You have seen into my heart with the passing of each of my
furbabies.
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You are so right. I have been with all my babies at the end and I know it made
me feel much better knowing that if they needed me, I was there. And yes, they
do know you are there and love them. Usually they take hold of me with their
paws and hold on. I think it makes them feel more secure
Keeping you in my prayers. You have tried the best you could and you have
learnd from this. Life is an ongoing series of lessons. The main thing is you
loved him and tried to help him, he knows this.
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I believe that our little ones do know we love and care for them. Just because
they cannot say so in words, they let us know by actions. When Annie's eyes
get a bit gunky, she comes to me, meows and waits patiently for me to clean
them.
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
>
Been there and done that. You don't know which way to go, afraid if you do
euthanize him orher it will be a wrong decision and yet you do not want them to
suffer I would rather suffer great pain my self. Right now, Annie is
recovering from an upper respiratory infection and since she is
The only thing holding me back is my concern about it becoming addictive.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> That’s really interesting. I have been blown away with the scientific
> evidence, already available, about the effectiveness of cannabis in human
> health.
>
> Amani
I solved the water situation with a Pioneed water fountain. They love the
water movement, it filters the water and if yoiu add a few ice cubes to bob
around, they really like it. They drink much more than they did with water
bowls.
Lorrie wrote:
> Hi Robert,
I was not realy going to report you for cruelty, you are in this group so I
know better. Just giving you a rough time.
re:food
I have a rough time getting my pride to eat canned food. I mix it with hot
water to make it smell better. They drink the broth and leave the meat. Can't
figure
sTAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING WITH CORN, WHEAT, SOY. Those ingredients had my guys
vomiting all the time. We are on Blue Buffalo. You could try any food without
the grains.
"Armstrong-Brown wrote:
> What is the best food I should be giving my FELV cat. He won't eat soft
> food, only dry.
>
??? Could we start a list of vets in different areas (those we have used who
agree with us) for people to go to when needed? Just a thought.
Ardy Robertson wrote:
> Hi Jen,
>
> The only problem with staying at that vet, is once you actually need Zander’s
>
Me too, at first I thought he was serious and was going to turn him for cruelty.
Lorrie wrote:
> Hey Robert, you almost gave this poor old lady a heart attack :-)
>
> Lorrie
>
> On 03-08, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> > Funny you should mention that Jen because I DID
lBut that is the one that caused hair loss at the site so I stopped it.
Amani Oakley wrote:
> That’s so weird. I have used Revolution, and it gets rid of the ear mites
> with a single application.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk
Annie had been diagnosed FELV and I had her spayed. Just because he is
diagnosed FELV does not mean it is active in his body, he could just be a
carrier. Annie is now 9, going on 10, lives with 3 other cats not FELV and her
only problems are her hang up from her previous life.
Jennifer
I feel for you and your frustration, but I would first get him neutered, that
will help. Then a black light and Fission, it kills the smell. He is going
back to the places he sprayed before and if he cannot smell, he might just pass
that spot by. It is work and it depends on your love for
To find where he ahs gone, use a black light.
Jennifer Olson wrote:
> Figaro has urinated on the bed at least once before (didn't wake me up, but
> I was in bed), on a wall & somewhere yet to be discovered (somehow he got
> it on back of his neck that time!). I will
I agree, please give him another chance. Don't give up on him. I know it is a
problem, but don't let your frustration get to you and then transfer to him.
Take a deep breath, say a prayer. He isn't doing this to be mean or contrary,
there is a problem that causes this.
Amani Oakley
I was going to say urinary tract infection. Harley and Homey have both had
that and peed just in front of the box. Went to the vet and got meds. Neither
one was too happy about taking the medicine, but I found that if I sit in the
recliner, wedge them between myself and the arm of the chair,
I have a lemongrass inside with scales and mealy bugs. I would like to spray
it and do a soil drench. Problem my cats love to eat lemongrass and I do not
want to kill them while saving the plant which I can replace. I have not been
able to get a satisfactory answer from the Green light
mY hARLEY OFF AND ON CATCHES MOLES, SCREWS AND MICE because we do have
invasions of mice in cold weather so I guess I should get him vacinnated for
Rabies. The others just go out and sit on the deck, Harley is my mouser,
anything that moves is prey including my toes under the cover.
The first thing I do when a new cat comes to me is spay or neuter, especially a
male, makes him less agressive and cuts down on spraying. If he does spry,
Jackson Galaxy has a product that really works! I use it for urine, vomit and
it really newutralizews the odor. First though, I do not
AMEN TO THAT! I especially get angry that they do not consider alternative
medicine a viable tratment. Unless I get a broken arm, I first try alternative
meds. I have not had a flu shot for over 8 years and have not had a cold or
flu. I use ginger, turmeric, garlic, onion, cinnamon as my
It seems probable to me. I went through 4 courses of chemo and none of them
worked, in fact last one was killing me. After 1 year without treatment other
than vitamins, minerals and prayer, I went into spontaneous remission. The
Doxycycline does the same, gives the body time to heal.
I haave had no problems with this, all I can offer is prayer.
Molly Mou wrote:
> I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was diagnosed
> with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her to the vet’s
> initially because her lymph
I hope so too. I have learned so much from this group, about what and what not
to worry about, how to treat my babies. I do not want to loose contact.
Lorrie wrote:
> I know how you feel. This is extremely annoying and I was about to
> bow out of the group
I am feeling left out, never have gotten one of thee mesages. Oh well, the old
saying of let sleeping dogs lie should apply here.
Margo wrote:
>
> This is getting annoying. I usually just delete things that come thru looking
> like this. Next time I will
If she is looking for a place to take them for life, C>W> RUSTIC HOLLOW is a no
kill shelter and takes felv positive cats. That is where I plan to send my
babies when I pass on.
It cost $$, but I am assured they will not be ut to sleep, just kept for the
rest of their lives.
ROBERT CHAPEL
I must be extremely lucky because I have never had a problem with anything
except fleas on my ferals and dump cats. Thank God because just giving Annie
her meds is a torture supreme. She does not like it and you would be amazed
how active a sick cat can be when she does not want to take her
wHY SHOULD Y9OU CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHERS THINK? I have had 2 FELV cats, 1 is
still with me and my 3 other cats. Everyone is healthy. I take in a cat or
dog no matter what their health. I do what I can for them and they then stay
with me as long as they can. They give me love in returnfor my
Are you all new members? I never get your emails except in "trash". How do I
get these people coming to my inbox? I know I must have missed a few emails
because of this.
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I just had a slight cold issue and it seemed Annie always got in my face when
she sneezed. I took her to the vet first day since she is positive (age 8
going on 9) and felv issues usually start with upper respiratory. She got a
shot and I brought home some antibiotics to give her. She seems
My Annie is now 9 years old and was diagnosed as positive when I got her at age
4. She recently started sneezing and had runny eyes so off to the vet we went.
She gave her a shot of antibiotic and some more to take at home. She seems to
be improving, no more sniffles or runny eyes. So far
never got any of these messages
ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Listserve Technology is rather hard to decipher without a Help file...
and I never noticed one for this group when I joined ( has anyone ever
received such)... eg.. differences between Reply and Reply all ( I
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