RE: male calico and black female
yea, thanks argu over this, YES its a male calico, and it doesnt matter its over "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes there are--few and far between. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:49 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: male calico and black femaleFYI...there are no Male calicos...so you actually have two females there. Good luck.Arlington Kittens and Cats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ANYONE IN ARLINGTON TEXAS that can take a pos male calico and a black female pos 1 year old? Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Re: OT - need info from Dallas area folks
tell him to try www.kittico.org they can help neuter him and advise him of many options he may have Carrie - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: OT - need info from Dallas area folks > Hi Susan, > > Eric can call Boutique Pet Shop, which is in the White > Rock area. They don't do spay/neuters, but I know > they can refer him to someone trustworthy in the area. > Other than that, I don't know where to send him in > that particular area. I am east of Dallas. > > :) > Wendy > > --- Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I got the strangest call yesterday - I am in Little > > Rock and I had a call from someone who I finally > > realized was in Dallas - he'd been given my cell > > phone number as a contact for a low cost neuter - > > which our rescue group here does. He said that > > Petco, I think gave it to him - which is totally > > weird. > > > > The man has a stray cat that he wants to give > > away. It is FIV+and unaltered. I told him the > > kitty definitely had to be neutered before he had > > any chance of finding it a home. All I knew to > > suggest was to call the Dallas ASPCA - whose shelter > > I've driven past in Dallas. He doesn't want to > > drive all the way across town and back twice a day. > > He said he lives out toward White Rock Lake. > > > > Does anyone in the area have any suggestions that > > I could give him. His name is Eric; email is > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and his phone number > > is 214-395-4834. Thanks. > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >
Re: Mixing
IM NOT PANICING CAN I ACCEPT THE NEGATIVE IFA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Mixing Ok Carrie lets not panic get the mega c and the interferon lets see if we can get them to through the virus. retest on the ifa in 120 days Karen
Re: Mixing
OKAY MY IFA TEST RESULTS ARE IN, Blackie positive "Y" positive Brother Negative ALL ELISA TEST LAST WEEK WERE POSITIVES WHAT DOES THIS MEAN HELP PLEASE CARRIE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Mixing Carrie, I understand your fear and frustration I think you even heard me quit one or twice this year Girl you are the best bottle feeder I have ever known and a awesome rescuer, Mom and friend. The world of homeless kitty's would suffer without you. Take a break if you need to call me if you need any help what so ever. Your charges may be in a SLIGHT bit of danger now but what kind of danger would they be in if they were with a collector, kill shelter or out on the street. Call me if you need to talk Karen PS got a situation in garland with 15 cats and 20 with a very elderly lady in Irving. THEY are in danger. Carrie let me know if you know anyone with room.
Re: Mixing
I just received the death certificate where I had MIA put down. Geeze that hurts! I wish I knew you guys, She would still be here!Carrie - Original Message - From: hd cc To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Mixing i need to win the million dollars so i can find a darn cure for this nasty stuff! And do cats 24/7 Carrie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Mixing Carrie, I understand your fear and frustration I think you even heard me quit one or twice this year Girl you are the best bottle feeder I have ever known and a awesome rescuer, Mom and friend. The world of homeless kitty's would suffer without you. Take a break if you need to call me if you need any help what so ever. Your charges may be in a SLIGHT bit of danger now but what kind of danger would they be in if they were with a collector, kill shelter or out on the street. Call me if you need to talk Karen PS got a situation in garland with 15 cats and 20 with a very elderly lady in Irving. THEY are in danger. Carrie let me know if you know anyone with room.
Re: Mixing
i need to win the million dollars so i can find a darn cure for this nasty stuff! And do cats 24/7 Carrie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Mixing Carrie, I understand your fear and frustration I think you even heard me quit one or twice this year Girl you are the best bottle feeder I have ever known and a awesome rescuer, Mom and friend. The world of homeless kitty's would suffer without you. Take a break if you need to call me if you need any help what so ever. Your charges may be in a SLIGHT bit of danger now but what kind of danger would they be in if they were with a collector, kill shelter or out on the street. Call me if you need to talk Karen PS got a situation in garland with 15 cats and 20 with a very elderly lady in Irving. THEY are in danger. Carrie let me know if you know anyone with room.
Mixing
Thanks to all who have responded to my mixing question. I am going to have to pray and hope on this one. I did take them yesturday and had the IFA test done, hopefully the results come back NEG. If not I will do them again later. At this time I am placing all my bottle kittens into other homes, rescue groups etc. And have decided not to continue rescue anymore. I am NOT going to put my kitties in any more danger. EVER. So unfortunatly I will no longer help in that manner, but maybe else where like the shelter or something Thanks to all of you Sincerely Carrie www.arlingtonkittensandcats.petfinder.com
mixing
So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my neg? Sincerely Carrie
Re: positive
yes please forward the list, I am truly
DRAINED!
- Original Message -
From:
Rachel
Martineau
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:52
PM
Subject: Re: positive
Oh Carrie...stop beating yourself
up! The fact is, you are a kind soul doing the best you
can!
Truth be told, NO test, including
the IFA is 100% accurate. Truth be told, I have had POSITIVES go
NEGATIVE in my care. Truth be told, I am past the point of putting too
much stock in these darn tests anymore, because I know that with exceptional
diet, supplements and care, ANY FeLV and FIV + cat can live a very LONG,
happy, healthy life! The diseases are not death sentences, as you've
heard over and over from this list.
My suggestion, start reading.
I have a huge list of books I recommend on holistic supplements and diets that
have done wonders for the rescues and fosters in my care. I will gladly
forward you the list if you'd like. Move forward with a game plan on how
to keep your clan healthy. Dwelling on the negative energy these tests
bring is so draining.
God
Bless,
Rachel
- Original Message -
From:
hd cc
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:41
PM
Subject: Re: positive
Sad, I euthanized the first one that showed positive,
once more started showing positive
I decided to wait and not euthanize any! But now I
feel s bad and s guilty having
her put down,SHAME ON ME, I didnt know. I want to cry
8-((
Yes they are all elisa test Working on IFA test
monday. IF the IFA test is positive is that
A FOR SURE? If it is negative what does that
mean?
Carrie
- Original Message -
From:
Susan Hoffman
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:52
AM
Subject: Re: positive
No test is 100% accurate. Are you using ELISA or IFA?
The ELISA test is far less accurate, has a much higher number of falses
positives. I'm sure you can get false negatives too. Also, it
is possible to get a negative on a blood test if the virus is in the bone
marrow. (I have very little faith in the ELISA test, especially
where a cat is very young or very old, or is ill or otherwise
stressed.)hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
THIS IS GOOD NEWS, I HOPE YOUR RIGHT!
My cats are adults, healthy, vaccinated and
vaccinated.
This makes no since! 2 are at a year old and
tested both neg
one tested neg in dec 27th, now
positive...
Whatever has happened here has happened in
the
last 3 months, this is how current it is that I
know of, SO
with that said I have some hope, especially with
my adult
cat 3 years old I think, maybe 4, he is BIG
healthy and strong
No reason for this!
The one I put to sleep has been tested 5
times
ALL neg and now positive! Her momma was FIV so
when she was little
she to tested positive for FIV, every month I
tested her, at 6 months her
and her sister were neg. Now her sister is still
Neg for both and she is FELV
positive, my vet cant even make since out of this
at all, no one knows what to think
I just know it has just recently started, no
mating, no fightingCarrie
- Original Message -
From:
TenHouseCats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006
10:20 AM
Subject: Re: positive
yeah, well, that IS the question
70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw
it off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen
if it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with
whom!) the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really
believe either a negative OR a positive result this means that
cats who have been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be
killed in the shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have
either the information or the facilities to hold the kitty for
retesting; if also means that a stray from the streets who tests
negative may still have been exposed in the recent past and may test
positive later on
even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a
time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was
originall
Re: positive
how did they get it from a positive though? - Original Message - From: "TenHouseCats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: positive i'm on the side of a 120-day re-test period, myself.. UNLESS you really can account for everyone your kitty may have come into contact within that period--not an easy thing for shelters/rescues On 4/21/06, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any initial test should be followed up with a retest and it si > recommended tpo wait atleast 3 months before retesting to give the cats > immnue system time to fight it off. This is what I have always heard. > The second test should be an IFA or better yet a PCR. > > -- > > Belinda > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > Be-Mi-Kitties > http://bemikitties.com > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > FeLV Candlelight Service > http://bemikitties.com/cls > > HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] > http://HostDesign4U.com > > > > BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > > > -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: positive
Sad, I euthanized the first one that showed positive, once more started showing positive I decided to wait and not euthanize any! But now I feel s bad and s guilty having her put down,SHAME ON ME, I didnt know. I want to cry 8-(( Yes they are all elisa test Working on IFA test monday. IF the IFA test is positive is that A FOR SURE? If it is negative what does that mean? Carrie - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: positive No test is 100% accurate. Are you using ELISA or IFA? The ELISA test is far less accurate, has a much higher number of falses positives. I'm sure you can get false negatives too. Also, it is possible to get a negative on a blood test if the virus is in the bone marrow. (I have very little faith in the ELISA test, especially where a cat is very young or very old, or is ill or otherwise stressed.)hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: THIS IS GOOD NEWS, I HOPE YOUR RIGHT! My cats are adults, healthy, vaccinated and vaccinated. This makes no since! 2 are at a year old and tested both neg one tested neg in dec 27th, now positive... Whatever has happened here has happened in the last 3 months, this is how current it is that I know of, SO with that said I have some hope, especially with my adult cat 3 years old I think, maybe 4, he is BIG healthy and strong No reason for this! The one I put to sleep has been tested 5 times ALL neg and now positive! Her momma was FIV so when she was little she to tested positive for FIV, every month I tested her, at 6 months her and her sister were neg. Now her sister is still Neg for both and she is FELV positive, my vet cant even make since out of this at all, no one knows what to think I just know it has just recently started, no mating, no fightingCarrie - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:20 AM Subject: Re: positive yeah, well, that IS the question 70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw it off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen if it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with whom!) the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really believe either a negative OR a positive result this means that cats who have been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be killed in the shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have either the information or the facilities to hold the kitty for retesting; if also means that a stray from the streets who tests negative may still have been exposed in the recent past and may test positive later on even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was originally!--that in rare cases the time for an IFA to go back to negative was up to 7 months following exposure. i have never heard of a documented case of a vaccinated negative cat turning positive from living, closely, with positives i do know of a number of cats who originally tested positive (back before people knew to retest) who did indeed test negative months and even years after they'd gone to live in positive-only environments--so clearly, they were healthy enough to throw the initial exposure off, and to remain negative afterward. one specific cat in that category went through two major bouts of illness that were considered life-threatening--to the force-feeding stage--and the little brat bounced back from both those episodes, stayed in the FeLV colony, and two years later, was found to be negative after all... On 4/20/06, carrie chance <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: what the heck good is testing and vaccinating then? - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: RE: positive I hasn't happened to me but statistically it's supposed to have 2/3 of cases might it might take a few months to really know it, though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Re: positive
THIS IS GOOD NEWS, I HOPE YOUR RIGHT! My cats are adults, healthy, vaccinated and vaccinated. This makes no since! 2 are at a year old and tested both neg one tested neg in dec 27th, now positive... Whatever has happened here has happened in the last 3 months, this is how current it is that I know of, SO with that said I have some hope, especially with my adult cat 3 years old I think, maybe 4, he is BIG healthy and strong No reason for this! The one I put to sleep has been tested 5 times ALL neg and now positive! Her momma was FIV so when she was little she to tested positive for FIV, every month I tested her, at 6 months her and her sister were neg. Now her sister is still Neg for both and she is FELV positive, my vet cant even make since out of this at all, no one knows what to think I just know it has just recently started, no mating, no fightingCarrie - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:20 AM Subject: Re: positive yeah, well, that IS the question 70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw it off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen if it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with whom!) the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really believe either a negative OR a positive result this means that cats who have been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be killed in the shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have either the information or the facilities to hold the kitty for retesting; if also means that a stray from the streets who tests negative may still have been exposed in the recent past and may test positive later on even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was originally!--that in rare cases the time for an IFA to go back to negative was up to 7 months following exposure. i have never heard of a documented case of a vaccinated negative cat turning positive from living, closely, with positives i do know of a number of cats who originally tested positive (back before people knew to retest) who did indeed test negative months and even years after they'd gone to live in positive-only environments--so clearly, they were healthy enough to throw the initial exposure off, and to remain negative afterward. one specific cat in that category went through two major bouts of illness that were considered life-threatening--to the force-feeding stage--and the little brat bounced back from both those episodes, stayed in the FeLV colony, and two years later, was found to be negative after all... On 4/20/06, carrie chance <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: what the heck good is testing and vaccinating then? - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: RE: positive I hasn't happened to me – but statistically it's supposed to have 2/3 of cases – might it might take a few months to really know it, though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of hd ccSent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:50 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: positive Okay anyone ever have a positive turn negitive? or am I screwed! Sincerely Carrie -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: positive
I appreciate your responce, I put down the 1st one, BUT then the 2nd My vet said no to wait, we tested them all and I have so far 3 total, and I AM NOT PUTTING THEM DOWN! there are 6 more being tested now 8-(( Carrie - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: RE: positive Heres the thingthese viruses have been around forevertheyre not new. If they were all that contagious and lethal then there would be NO cats left anywhere. Back before tests, everybody was mixed and nobody got tested or vaccinated. Then all of a sudden these tests came out and with them all this rush to pts any cat that tested positive. Kittens are always at more risk from anything. No doubt they have the hardest time of all if they have pre-natal exposure and it is heart breaking to see these little one struggle so hard and not make it. But pts any cat of any age who is pos is a travesty! I have two adults who are pos. My vet never batted an eyelash about mixing. Are there risks? Im sure there are but I just dont think theyre anywhere near what the big pharmaceutical companies would have you believe. Are the adults more susceptible to cancers and blood disorders-sure. But does that mean they cant have a good, happy lifeof course not! I dont have either of mine on interferonyoud sort of have to know them to know what a MAJOR stress that would be for them. I do give them some good food, some supplements and a whole lot of loving! As for my 3 negs, I do get them vaccinated though they lived with what I didnt know was a positive since their own kittenhood and they all remain neg. I wish that testing was only used to determine any appropriate medical treatmentnot to determine whether cat should immediately live or die; not to determine whether the cat is a death sentence for any other cats . Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCatsSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: positive yeah, well, that IS the question 70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw it off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen if it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with whom!) the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really believe either a negative OR a positive result this means that cats who have been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be killed in the shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have either the information or the facilities to hold the kitty for retesting; if also means that a stray from the streets who tests negative may still have been exposed in the recent past and may test positive later on even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was originally!--that in rare cases the time for an IFA to go back to negative was up to 7 months following exposure. i have never heard of a documented case of a vaccinated negative cat turning positive from living, closely, with positives i do know of a number of cats who originally tested positive (back before people knew to retest) who did indeed test negative months and even years after they'd gone to live in positive-only environments--so clearly, they were healthy enough to throw the initial exposure off, and to remain negative afterward. one specific cat in that category went through two major bouts of illness that were considered life-threatening--to the force-feeding stage--and the little brat bounced back from both those episodes, stayed in the FeLV colony, and two years later, was found to be negative after all... On 4/20/06, carrie chance <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: what the heck good is testing and vaccinating then? - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: RE: positive I hasn't happened to me but statistically it's supposed to have 2/3 of cases might it might take a few months to really know it, though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of hd ccSent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:50 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: positive Okay anyone ever have a positive turn negitive? or am I screwed! Sincerely Carrie -- MaryChristineAIM /
positive
Okay anyone ever have a positive turn negitive? or am I screwed! Sincerely Carrie
Re: New Member
to squirt it in the mouth.>>>> Sometimes the blood tests don't show much, or they don't get> interpreted >> fully. For example, kitties can have kidney problems but it doesn't> show>> up on the blood test.>>>> You might ask your vet about other kinds of antibiotics also - I've> used>> Zeniquin, and it's helped enormously in some cases. Someone suggested>>> Zithromax.>>>> I'd suggest being watchful when giving any drugs that kitty doesn't> become >> dehydrated, that plenty of water is consumed or given as sub-q fluids.>>>> Someone elsewhere also mentioned blood parasites, and there's a> test(s)>> for that.>> >> I really think about and wonder about these babies that just don't> thrive,>> that don't get meat on their bones, and would like to know more about>> helping them thrive.>> >> Best of luck,>>>> Gloria>>>>>>>>>> At 04:29 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote:>>>It's on dr. addies' website, but interferon might be also depending on >>>what the kitty has - I will be praying that your kitty would get> better>>>soon!>>>>>>-Original Message->>>>>>Hi, Carrie, welcome to the list, and I am so sorry that your baby > kitty>>>is having a difficult time. One thing I would like to ask is that,>>>could you post the blood work on the post? I really would like to> take>>>a look at it myself and read it. Especially TP and A/G ratio. If TP > is>>>high, and A/G ration is less than 0.2 - I might want to talk to you>>>about another viral disease. If you haven't done already, you might>>>want to send it to IDexx fro corona virus titer to see what it shows. >>>Your kitty's condition reminds me of Henry so very much. Henry died>>>after I gave him a couple of dosages of antibiotics called Baytrill ->>>baytril is considered to be one of the safest drug and you would never >>>hear that a cat dies from it, but Henry unfortunately did from the>>>reaction from it. Not that the drug killed him directly, but somehow>>>his immune system was already weak (he was thin, had chronic URIs, > rough>>>coat), and it further suppressed his immune system and killed him> within>>>72 hours. They think he died of FIP which is considered to be very>>>fatal.>>> >>>One thing I have to tell you is that, no matter what, please please be>>>careful as to what drug you give to your kitty no matter what a vet>>>says. You have to know the risks/benefits of each drug you give to > your>>>kitty no matter how safe they say it is. Otherwise you would be> paying>>>for it. A human could get a serious reaction from pennicilian so I am>>>not surprised if your kitty has it, too. >>>>>>Does she have a fever? The only concern I have is that she may have> dry>>>form of FIP - I suggested that you also write to FIP yahoo group and> ask>>>for help. They have many many educated people also who is expert in >>>symptoms of FIP, and they can tell you also what they think.>>>>>>Regardless, if your kitty is eating, and you feel that she is not in>>>pain, don't listen to your vet to put her down. I recently had a >>>situation where my kitty was very close to death, and did not give up>>>and a miracle happened and he came back. Regardless whatever she has>>>(whether it's FIP or not). Don't' ever give up a hope. Everyday is a >>>gift you have with her. Please treasure and fight with her (looks> like>>>you have the attitude already - :) - at FIP yahoo list, there are>>>hundreds of people who live with FIP cats and continue to fight with >>>their furry babies. And, regardless whatever it is, we are here for>>>you. I am hoping that it's not FIP. But I would really like to get a>>>copy of the blood work. Ask your vet to fax to you. Also if the > blood>>>work was sent to idexx before, they can just make a phone call to add>>>FIP/corona virus IFA titer test so that they won't have to draw> another>>>sample of blood. The meantime, I am forwarding the link to
Re: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - To Nina and Kerry
Yes it sounds good, my problem is I do rescue, so I am concerned I would start a trend with a towel in the box, hu, maybe I need to cage her and try to reprogram her, I dont know, in my case I dont see it working as there are too many that could end up with potty issues because of it, oh well Sincerely Carrie www.arlingtonkittensandcats.petfinder.com www.alleycatangels.org www.adoptacat53.com - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - To Nina and Kerry > Carrie, > > Kitty urine washes out quite nicely in the wash I've > learned, so just throw the rug in the wash if you > don't think it would become too unraveled. A towel > would be a better choice because those can be washed > over and over. If this works for Pepper, I will buy > several cheap towels for her and wash them only with > each other. I am so excited because it's been a > problem! > > :) > Wendy > > --- hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A rug in the litter box? > > Then when its time to clean wheres the rug go? > > his is very interesting as we also have several cats > > in > > groups I know that have this problem. > > > > Sincerely > > Carrie > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:58 AM > > Subject: RE: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - > > To Nina and Kerry > > > > > > > Hideyo, > > > > > > I have a kitty that does not use the litte box > > > regularly, much to our dislike, and I am so going > > to > > > try that towel in a kitty box thing because > > everytime > > > I have clothes on the floor to put into the wash, > > she > > > tinkles on them! I will let you know how this > > goes > > > and thanks so much for the tip! > > > > > > :) > > > Wendy > > > > > > --- Hideyo Yamamoto > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, Kerry - actually Carol (person in Jail) > > asked if > > > > she should have > > > > euthanized them before. I said "hell no" - I am > > not > > > > sure how dependable > > > > she is going to be as she is a drug addict (sort > > of) > > > > and am not sure how > > > > clean she can stay when she gets out of jail. > > But I > > > > told her not to > > > > worry about the kitties, I will take care of > > them > > > > indefinitely and she > > > > was very grateful. In a way, I am hoping that > > she > > > > never will ask for > > > > them (she was evicted from the apartment so she > > does > > > > not have a place to > > > > live either). > > > > > > > > Well, about tiger, I came to realize that some > > > > kitties don't like to > > > > touch the litter at all. And it might reinforce > > the > > > > idea now you > > > > mentioned that Tiger does not want to cover the > > > > litter box. I have a > > > > cat whose name is narita - she does not want to > > pee > > > > in the litter box, > > > > but does not mind doing so in a town (or any > > soft > > > > place) in a litter > > > > box, she does number 2 in the litter box, but > > she > > > > put all her legs on > > > > the top of the litter box and she does not put > > her > > > > feet in the box at > > > > all (of course, she does not cover the poops > > either) > > > > - > > > > > > > > I am not sure if it's the case with Tiger or > > not. I > > > > realized that I > > > > couldn't make her do what I wanted her to do > > (use a > > > > litter box like a > > > > normal kitty), so I accommodate her need or so > > that > > > > she won't keep > > > > peeing on my bed or couch (yikes) ... > > > > > > > > I hope it's not the case with Tiger and it might > > be > > > > just temporary.. but > > > > you might want to try a different type of litter > > --- > > > > do you use clay > > > > litter now? > > > > I use wheat kind.. > > > > &g
Re: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - To Nina and Kerry
A rug in the litter box? Then when its time to clean wheres the rug go? his is very interesting as we also have several cats in groups I know that have this problem. Sincerely Carrie - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - To Nina and Kerry > Hideyo, > > I have a kitty that does not use the litte box > regularly, much to our dislike, and I am so going to > try that towel in a kitty box thing because everytime > I have clothes on the floor to put into the wash, she > tinkles on them! I will let you know how this goes > and thanks so much for the tip! > > :) > Wendy > > --- Hideyo Yamamoto > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, Kerry - actually Carol (person in Jail) asked if > > she should have > > euthanized them before. I said "hell no" - I am not > > sure how dependable > > she is going to be as she is a drug addict (sort of) > > and am not sure how > > clean she can stay when she gets out of jail. But I > > told her not to > > worry about the kitties, I will take care of them > > indefinitely and she > > was very grateful. In a way, I am hoping that she > > never will ask for > > them (she was evicted from the apartment so she does > > not have a place to > > live either). > > > > Well, about tiger, I came to realize that some > > kitties don't like to > > touch the litter at all. And it might reinforce the > > idea now you > > mentioned that Tiger does not want to cover the > > litter box. I have a > > cat whose name is narita - she does not want to pee > > in the litter box, > > but does not mind doing so in a town (or any soft > > place) in a litter > > box, she does number 2 in the litter box, but she > > put all her legs on > > the top of the litter box and she does not put her > > feet in the box at > > all (of course, she does not cover the poops either) > > - > > > > I am not sure if it's the case with Tiger or not. I > > realized that I > > couldn't make her do what I wanted her to do (use a > > litter box like a > > normal kitty), so I accommodate her need or so that > > she won't keep > > peeing on my bed or couch (yikes) ... > > > > I hope it's not the case with Tiger and it might be > > just temporary.. but > > you might want to try a different type of litter --- > > do you use clay > > litter now? > > I use wheat kind.. > > > > Love. > > > > Hideyo > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of MacKenzie, > > Kerry N. > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:33 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: RE: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - > > To Nina and Kerry > > > > How long is the owner in jail, Hideyo? Yes, you are > > going to have a > > tough time if you have to give them up, too. Maybe > > it won't come to > > that, tho. They can't depend on her, that's clear. > > (Heck, if it weren't > > for you, they probably would have been euthanized by > > the time she came > > out.) > > Hideyo, what's the idea behind the litter box with a > > towel -- I'm not > > clear, but I am intrigued. I sure need ideas! D'you > > mean that on those > > occasions when he doesn't use the box, he would > > perhaps use the > > non-litter box (instead of the wood floor as at > > present)? Thing is, I > > want to figure out how to get him to use the real > > litter box all the > > time. He's also the only cat that does not cover up. > > He's a bit of a > > slob, my Tigerprobably wasn't taught, along with > > not being weaned, > > poor love. > > Hope Garfunkle, and Ghandi and Ruby-E -- and > > Hideyo!-- are all doing ok. > > love, Kerry > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Hideyo > > Yamamoto > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:41 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: RE: Tsubomi, Ginger and Garfunkle update - > > To Nina and Kerry > > > > > > Kerry, did I tell you about terumo needles? Let me > > ship some to you. > > If you are using Monoject right now, you will find > > much easier to use > > terumo -- it's so smooth that you don't even know > > that you are poking... > > with Monoject.. I had to use a couple of needles > > when Papa needed fluid > > (he is my FIV boy who had a very thick skin) because > > it took so much to > > poke - > > > > Wow, it will be hard to give up Pookie, won't it? I > > have 4 cats that I > > reclaimed from the pound the other day (the owner is > > in jail) and am > > going to have a hard time to return them to her once > > she gets out of > > jail, because she is sort of drug addict and she has > > some other mental > > illness and am worried that their safety might be at > > risk.. they are > > just so scared right now.. but started coming out a > > little bit --- I > > love them very much, too! > > > > As for Tiger, have you tried to
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I have tested my kitty and no FIV or FELV or anything like that, but I was told you guys are the smartest people around when it comes to cats and kittens with problems. Heres mine! Sasha is 3 months old, she was fine, but then never really looked right, straggly and just not a healthy kitty, thin hair but did play and run and was alot of fun. Now she has URI, which is getting better and better, but since getting it she has really gone down hill, She is always warm, when you touch her she feels warm, and now sometimes her 3rd eyelids cover her eyes for a second or 2 and she acts like she is not there, and then comes back, and also her legs are giving out on her, they stiffen up and she cant move, and she is very twitchy, her whole body twitches/tremors, something is wrong, I did a blood panel and the vet said it was fine. a few weeks ago she was given a shot of pennicillian,. and had an allergic reaction to it, her head swelled up and when the vet noticed it gave her something to counter act it, i took her in originally cause she looked poor, sick and URI, could this shot have done it? Its almost like what ever is wrong its in the nervous system or in the brain. Anyone ever hear anything similar to this. the vet thinks in one manner to put her down, but I WONT, she is eating and she has a nice stool, just everything else is wrong. I love her so much, I just dont know what to do for her, she loves to come out and we walk up one side of the house and back, and thats it she stiffens up and goes down and cant walk anymore, i am in fear she may be in paini just dont know what to do for her, she loves me and she loves to eat,anyone please tell me something.. Sincerely Carrie www.arlingtonkittensandcats.petfinder.com www.alleycatangels.org www.adoptacat53.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Welcome Rebecca > LOL, yeah ask Michelle how gross opening a cat of meat based cat food or tuna is for > her! She's very descriptive about how much meat grosses her out. :-)~ > > I used to be vegetarian for a while, but got lazy, and hamburg helper is about all we > eat these days unless it come in a microwavable carton. They don't make easy quick > vegetarian foods out of a box... which is too bad, because that makes me continue to > be a meat eater. If it involves more than one pot... I'm not cooking it. > > Anyways, we're all very tolerate of the vegans here, and try to understand their > point of view. I think you'll feel very welcomed here! > > Jenn > http://ucat.us > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > Adopt a FIV+ cat: > http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ > Adopt a FELV+ cat: > http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html > "Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of > difference for that one animal." > ~~~ > I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must > live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. > Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she > earns a free can of formula! > PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! > > If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them > to! > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005 > >
