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2016-07-07 Thread swacht1946
Haven’t seen anything from FeLV in ages – been on it for over a year – updated 
regularly – now what


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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

2016-06-15 Thread swacht1946
I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  Speaking 
from experience – dealing with it now.

I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi Ashley

 

I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of the 
gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
normally again.

 

However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at a 
level when it is really problematic.

 

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.

 

As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Amy

 




From: ashley egger 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi there!

I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed about 
a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there and 
hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of things 
I'm facing.

  

Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the vet 
and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis. 



My questions I guess are:

-Anyone have cat 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

2016-06-15 Thread swacht1946
Hi Ashley, I am currently dealing with one if my cats who has stomatitis – his 
is not FeLV – there is some talk about stomatitis and the Calicivirus and 
stomatitis – I’ve done a lot of searching and found lots of sites and 
information – one I thought easy to understand – stomatitisincats.com – My 
Rascal has had most of his teeth removed – has been on antibiotics and 
anti-inflammatory meds – his is 9 years old. Hills has canned called Recovery 
and then there is also A/D by prescription which are good for regular feeding 
and syringe feeding.  If you can, get a 2nd opinion of total teeth removal.

Sandy W

From: Katherine K. 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:39 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Ashley,
My older FeLV boy gets seasonal allergies from April - November where he has 
wheezing and chest congestion (No sneezing or watery eyes/nose). He's been 
x-rayed for asthma a couple of times but not found much. I give him lysine but 
he still has some coughing. 

Sorry to hear about your little buddy! Hope he feels better soon. Glad he's 
still doing well at age 2. 

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 AM,  wrote:

  Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in it), 
push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it past the 
painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got some chicken 
livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed them.  Or get some 
mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods that smell.



   Rachel Dagner  wrote:
  >
  Hi Ashley,

  I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how 
devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about stomatitis 
so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very painful and life 
threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he is still eating and 
acting normal though. I read where some kitties have had teeth cleanings 
followed with regular brushings and that this can help. Not sure how much it 
would help a felv cat or if he would even let you brush but maybe something to 
consider. I have a new baby after losing my felv baby and am bound and 
determined to brush her teeth and get her used to it.
  As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I 
checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr. 
Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe 
something you can look into as well.
  I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am praying 
that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live a longer and 
healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our financial means 
for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you have and still lose 
to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy everyday you have with him. 
You are a good mommy and you love him and he knows that. I will keep you both I 
my prayers. I hope you will stay with us through your journey and lean on us as 
needed. It was very helpful for me to have this group to come to for support.

  Rachel


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  > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger  wrote:
  >
  > Hi there!
  > I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there 
and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of 
things I'm facing.
  >
  > Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative 
and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis.
  >
  > My questions I guess are:
  > -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use? 
 Is this the best treatment?
  >
  > -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
  >
  > -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for 

Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

2015-11-17 Thread swacht1946
I’m so very sorry – life just isn’t the same 

From: Christine Dundas 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Maya 
So sorry for your loss.  Prayers and thoughts are with you.  You were a 
wonderful caretaker, compassionate and caring.

Christine 

On Nov 17, 2015 7:59 AM, "Maya D'Alessio"  wrote:

  Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support over 
the month, it has been incredible. 

  On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM,  wrote:

They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed 
and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson  wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces 
loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when 
he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he 
felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>
> > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Upsetting notices

2015-10-29 Thread swacht1946

I also got this same message - gosh I hope this isn't a virus!

-Original Message- 
From: Lorrie

Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Upsetting notices

I keep getting these notices that they will drop me for bounces and
I have not had any bounces or my system would advise me of this.

Has anyone else had this happen?  It is most upsetting to me as
this is my favorite cat group with such valuable help for FelV.

I don't know what they mean about my password (see below) this is NOT
my password. Can someone please help me with this problem. I have to
keep reinstating my membership.

Lorrie


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[Felvtalk] pilling a cat syringe a cat

2015-10-28 Thread swacht1946
Hi all – I no longer has an FeLV kitty cat but continue to follow the e-mail 
conversations.  I recently came across this through another “cat” person.  This 
maybe be an answer for “pilling” or having to syringe a kitty.  The picture 
came from their web site.  I am ordering one today.


http://cat-in-the-bag.com





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Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-28 Thread swacht1946
another reason for warming the food is that in the “wild” they ate what they 
killed – and it was warm blooded.

From: Ardy Robertson 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

One thing I do for my Tigger is “ever so slightly” warm the food in the 
microwave….like 10 seconds, not to make it very warm at all, but it sort of 
makes the aroma stronger, thus making the food more inviting. Any more than a 
few seconds might make it too warm and would scare him because he seems to be 
afraid of food that is too warm.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:45 AM
To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

 

Margo,

Thanks for the warning about the iron injections.  Peaches is very fussy about 
her food, so I am not sure if she will put up with Pet-Tinic, but I might give 
it a try.  She was low on potassium, and even the lightest sprinkle of 
potassium gluconate powder in her food would cause her to reject i, though 
sometimes she would eat some of it.  Tried the K gel also.  Even one drop of 
fish oil also makes her reject her food, even if it happens to be 
fish-flavored!!  So I focused on offering the most nutritious food possible, 
frequently, and changing it up (both flavor and texture) constantly to get her 
to eat more, thus taking in more nutrients.  No sub-q fluids for her, as she is 
drinking plenty of water on her own.

Marsha

On 10/28/2015 6:36 AM, Margo wrote:

  Hi Marsha,

I've only used Epogen (Erythropoetin) for cats with CRF, but 
it's been a while, and this may be a better option. The Epogen did the job for 
us.

I just wanted to suggest that if you can get the iron into her 
in another way, I would consider that. Iron injections (usually dextran) HURT! 
And yes, I know from personal experience ;) If she's getting sub-q fluids, you 
can add it at the end, and it may be dilute enough to be less painful, but iron 
is absorbed well orally. This is what I use, and some cats actually have 
followed me for it ;

  
http://www.lambertvetsupply.com/Pet-Tinic-Liquid-Vitamin-Mineral-Supplement-for-Dogs-and-Cats_p_2533.html?preselopt=7142=Cj0KEQjw5MGxBRDiuZm2icXX2-sBEiQA619bq5hS3AFWV5jo5f133RPoNEAdq7uoC6pc0ciV4_TcV4caAgqg8P8HAQ

  HTH

  Margo

 




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Re: [Felvtalk] Little Girl Coco

2015-10-01 Thread swacht1946
Try Royal Canin Recovery as well- Sandy

From: Kelley S 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 5:25 AM
To: felineres...@frontier.com ; felvtalk 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Little Girl Coco

I continue to be really worried.  She is so very thin and eats almost nothing.  
She IS eating, just not much at all.  I have gotten some AD and am going to try 
to syringe it to her.  

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Kelley S  wrote:

  Lorrie, 

  Yes, I would agree it is very difficult.  Unfortunately very difficult does 
not mean impossible.  That's my problem. I  have no more kittens.  I have a 
young adult cat who was born 1/7/13 who has been combo tested negative and 
vaccinated along with all the other cats.  

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

Kelley,
-
My vet told me it is very difficult for FelV cats to give the virus
to other adult cats. It is a different story with kittens who are
very susceptible, as their immune systems are not fully developed.
I've personally found that kittens born with FelV from a positive
mother almost always die. However, I have 10 adult cats who have been
with two FelV pos. cats for 5 years and none of them have become
positive.  FelV is not easily transmitted to adult cats, even when
they share food and water bowls.

Lorrie

n 09-29, Kelley wrote:

> By the way, various vets have told me regarding mixing vaccinated
> negatives and positives everything from "FELV is so contagious that
> if a positive cat licks a blade of grass and your negative cat
> comes along and licks the same blade of grass they will be
> infected" to "it's no big deal." So at this point I have to wonder
> how much good "a vet told me" is.
>


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Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

2015-06-30 Thread swacht1946
Sally how old was your cat when you started using LTCI?  Did the cat remain 
positive? 

From: Sally Dwyer 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

Hi Kathleen,

I have used LTCI and I live in Hamilton, Ontario.  My cat was IFA positive for 
FeLV (meaning persistently infected as the virus was in bone marrow) and he 
went negative a few months after starting the LTCI, so in my opinion, it is 
definitely worth a shot for your little Oreo.  Your vet can call Terry 
Beardsley at LTCI and he will help explain the paper work.  Should only take a 
week for Health Canada to make an exception.  Otherwise LTCI can be shipped to 
a vet in the states virtually overnight.  Hope this helps and best of luck with 
your little guy.  just curious, where in Canada are you from?

Sally





On Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO kngb...@shaw.ca wrote:




Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks 
from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. 
The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then 
seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started 
to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started 
running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics 
and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for 
a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there 
was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another 
vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up 
until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was 
sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is 
uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that 
can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so 
we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour 
drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used 
LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, 
to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very 
much appreciated.  

Thanks,
Kathleen

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Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

2015-06-28 Thread swacht1946
First of all Kathleen Oreo needs to be seriously treated for URI – Tobramycin 
and Terramycin – drops of Tobramycin followed with Terramycin to help keep in 
the drops for eye issues. Oreo needs to be on an antibiotic to help combat the 
secondary infections.  You may need to syringe feed Oreo – a gruel of canned – 
and KMR a milk replacer.  I prefer Breeders Edge from Revival, a great feline 
milk replacer - they ship quickly.  IF Oreo becomes dehydrated subq fluids will 
need to be given - 

The thing is being aggressive in treatment and keeping Oreo hydrated and 
nourished.

As for Oreo being tested at this young age – well it’s not necessarily 
accurate.  Should be retested no sooner than 30 days from the first test. 
sites for info are www.vet.cornell.edu  - www.2ndchance.info/flv.html LTCI 
is a product from T-CYTE Therapeutics – another site www.sheltermedicine.com  
Koret Shelter Medicine Program 

www.v63.net/catsanctuary  is where this info came from – web site from the UK

If your vet suggests testing a young kitten for FIV with the in-house test – 
BEWARE!  This is the same for FeLV

Testing a kitten for FIV with the in-house test is a complete waste of time and 
money – the reason is that the test looks for FIV antibodies which are produced 
by the body in response to the virus – this is fine in adult cats, but not for 
kittens, because a kitten born from an FIV mother will inherit the antibodies 
from its mother but rarely the virus – so although it would test positive for 
FIV, it would likely not actually have the virus. The kitten will, over several 
months, lose its mother’s antibodies, and would then test negative for FIV. If 
it is important to know whether a kitten is actually FIV or not, there is a 
different test known as a PCR which looks for the DNA of the virus itself. This 
test is not widely available (Langford Lab, Bristol is one that does it).




  FeLV
  Feline Leukemia Virus

  FeLV is one of the fairly common cat viruses, that is much 
misunderstood
 
 

  FeLV (Feline Leukemia Virus)

  The virus is particularly devastating to very young cats who rarely live 
beyond the age of two when infected. Older cats who pick up the virus can live 
for years, like several at Catwork.

  How is FeLV caught?
  The virus is present in saliva and spread by close prolonged contact such 
as mutual grooming or shared food bowls. Biting will obviously also spread the 
virus.

  Symptoms – The symptoms can be many and varied (some of them similar to 
FIV)
  There can be a progressive deterioration in condition over time. Clinical 
signs can include fever, lethargy, poor appetite and weight loss. Respiratory, 
skin and intestinal problems are sometimes signs of the disease. Cancer tumours 
develop in some cats.

  What to do if your cat tests positive for FeLV.
  It is important to test a second time, at a laboratory, at an interval of 
12 weeks from the first test. 
  This is because, when a cat encounters the virus, it can become 
temporarily infected, and the cat’s immune system gets to work ‘dealing’ with 
it. In most cases, the cat’s immune system will win and the virus will be 
beaten. However, during this period the cat will test positive for the virus. 
After about 12 weeks, through the more complex test at a laboratory, it will 
usually be clear if the cat has successfully shaken off the virus. 
Alternatively, the virus may have taken a hold and that cat will then be 
persistently infected.






 

From: KATHLEEN BUSO 
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks 
from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. 
The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then 
seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started 
to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started 
running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics 
and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for 
a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there 
was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another 
vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up 
until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was 
sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is 
uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that 
can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so 
we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour 
drive there and 

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Harley Brock

2015-05-01 Thread swacht1946
this drug is still available - DRs. Foster  Smith even have it - by 
prescription.


-Original Message- 
From: Marsha

Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Harley  Brock

Hi Amani,

I mentioned it to my vet this afternoon.  He said it is a very old drug,
and he's not sure he can even get it anymore, but would look into it.

Marsha

On 5/1/2015 2:51 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:
You know your cat's circumstances the best. However, my experience is that 
the general veterinary community is mostly unwilling to prescribe Winstrol 
and/or is quite unfamiliar with it (or only knows it enough to suggest 
that there are possible liver side effects). Winstrol is a steroid, as 
you've said, but it is an anabolic steroid, not a corticosteroid like 
prednisone or dexamethasone, so it doesn't have the same interaction with 
NSAIDs. I recommend you do your own research and come to your own 
conclusions. If I had listened to the advice I was getting from the vet 
specialists I saw for my critically ill cats, they would have died within 
months of the diagnosis (which was what I was told was the best case 
scenario).


In the end, you are the one speaking with your vet so you will be in the 
best position to gauge how best to proceed. I am giving advice from the 
sidelines, I know.


Good luck.

Amani




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