[Felvtalk] Nori - neuro symptoms

2019-06-09 Thread LORRAINE JOHNSTON
Hi, Patricia,


Just a thought to mention to the neurologist: if Nori is having neurologic 
symptoms, perhaps a test for toxoplasmosis would be wise. 


And you might also want to mention to the treating vets that opiates allow some 
drugs that would not otherwise cross the blood/brain barrier to do so. Thus if 
her neurologic symptoms are the result of some infection, giving her an opiate 
such as buprenorphine along with an antibiotic could help the drug reach brain 
tissue it might not otherwise reach.


Best regards,

Lorraine___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nori...

2019-06-03 Thread Patricia Oliveira
Thank you, Robert!

Till yesterday night, i was more hopeful.

Nori started stanozolol on saturday and i noticed an improvement in her
appetite.

But last night she didn´t eat, despite looking for food. She went
till plate, stir in the food, but with her mouth closed all time. She
didn´t open her mouth to seize the grains of cat food.

I think her neurological issues are worsening :(

Today, i syringed food twice in the morning, gave her some subqs with B12
too.

I am really worried because i´ll be at home only at night.

Does someone have any option for neurological issues or just prednisolone ?

Thank you!


Patrícia

Em seg, 3 de jun de 2019 às 14:00, ROBERT CHAPEL 
escreveu:

> Patricia...
> I don't have any better advice than is being offered by Amani... Just
> wanted to wish you the best with this adorable kitten and cheer you on as
> one of the special people with especially big hearts Good Luck to both
> of you!!!
>
> Bob from NY
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> >2. Re: New to Fel-V positive kitty (Kristy)
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> > --
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 17:43:35 +
> > From: Amani Oakley 
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> > Message-ID:
> >>
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> >
> > Hi Patricia ? I gave all the pills together, morning and evening, except
> for the metoclopramide which was given ? or so before meals. The rest I
> gave with the meals. I didn?t observe a problem with giving them together.
> >
> > You might also try baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind
> (beef or chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up into a
> syringe. If my Zander wasn?t eating (and he wasn?t at the start of the
> medication regime), then I would use a syringe to get the baby food into
> him. Baby food is easy to digest and has good things in it. I would target
> ? say ? five 3 cc syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the number
> of syringe-fulls if possible. Eventually, Zander started eating the baby
> food on his own, and then I graduated to moist food, and really, anything
> he wanted until he put the weight back on.
> >
> > I had a look at the picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am crossing
> my fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her progress.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of
> Patricia Oliveira
> > Sent: June 1, 2019 12:36 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> >
> > Hi, Amani!
> >
> > Thanky you very much for you email!
> >
> > Nori was discharged from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating
> baby dry food. I tried canned but she didn?t accept so weel.
> >
> > Today i bought other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes
> some one.
> >
> > Compound pharmacy must delivery stanozolol today.
> >
> > Are there any precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far
> to doxy, for example?
> >
> > This is Nori:
> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html<
> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html?fbclid=IwAR0cXMedtfi73B81pJI7QiYGwRTJf9VJp-JN7S_Tstb0ANeg0Hm4ObtFH_A
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Patr?cia
> >
> > Em qui, 30 de mai de 2019 ?s 20:52, Amani Oakley <
> aoak...@oakleylegal.com> escreveu:
> > Sorry Patricia ? after going on and on in my last email, I realized I
> hadn?t actually answered your question. I think you can probably use the
> stanozolol with the Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone
> itself has properties which help to boost red cell production. Try it out,
> keep close tabs on the haematology results and see if you are getting a
> good response on just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, add the
> prednisone. You may find that this combination assists with the FIP as
> well, as per my previous email.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk  felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira
> > Sent: May 30, 2019 12:56 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten 

Re: [Felvtalk] Nori...

2019-06-03 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Patricia...
I don't have any better advice than is being offered by Amani... Just wanted to 
wish you the best with this adorable kitten and cheer you on as one of the 
special people with especially big hearts Good Luck to both of you!!!

Bob from NY
> On June 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote:
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>1. Re: Rescued kitten felv + (Amani Oakley)
>2. Re: New to Fel-V positive kitty (Kristy)
>3. Re: New to Fel-V positive kitty (Amani Oakley)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 17:43:35 +
> From: Amani Oakley 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Patricia ? I gave all the pills together, morning and evening, except for 
> the metoclopramide which was given ? or so before meals. The rest I gave with 
> the meals. I didn?t observe a problem with giving them together.
> 
> You might also try baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind (beef or 
> chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up into a syringe. 
> If my Zander wasn?t eating (and he wasn?t at the start of the medication 
> regime), then I would use a syringe to get the baby food into him. Baby food 
> is easy to digest and has good things in it. I would target ? say ? five 3 cc 
> syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the number of syringe-fulls if 
> possible. Eventually, Zander started eating the baby food on his own, and 
> then I graduated to moist food, and really, anything he wanted until he put 
> the weight back on.
> 
> I had a look at the picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am crossing my 
> fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her progress.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Patricia 
> Oliveira
> Sent: June 1, 2019 12:36 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> 
> Hi, Amani!
> 
> Thanky you very much for you email!
> 
> Nori was discharged from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating baby dry 
> food. I tried canned but she didn?t accept so weel.
> 
> Today i bought other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes some one.
> 
> Compound pharmacy must delivery stanozolol today.
> 
> Are there any precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far to 
> doxy, for example?
> 
> This is Nori: 
> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html
> 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Patr?cia
> 
> Em qui, 30 de mai de 2019 ?s 20:52, Amani Oakley 
> mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> escreveu:
> Sorry Patricia ? after going on and on in my last email, I realized I hadn?t 
> actually answered your question. I think you can probably use the stanozolol 
> with the Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone itself has 
> properties which help to boost red cell production. Try it out, keep close 
> tabs on the haematology results and see if you are getting a good response on 
> just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, add the prednisone. You may find 
> that this combination assists with the FIP as well, as per my previous email.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk 
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
>  On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira
> Sent: May 30, 2019 12:56 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> 
> Hi from Brazil,
> 
> I rescued a very weak, dehydrated, extremely thin kitten.
> 
> She's hospitalized now. Her hematocrit was 8, had blood transfusion which 
> raised hematocrit to 22, now it is 19. Low reticulocyte count.
> She has difficulty walking, which we can not define if it is just weakness or 
> neurological. Already had a seizure.
> 
> She also have changes in her kidneys. It has been tested and is felv +
> 
> She is receiving doxy and the hospital vets would like to include 
> prednisolone.
> 
> However, as it is not possible yet to rule out PIF, and the medication I 
> could use in the case of PIF does not work if the cat received prednisolone, 
> I am trying to avoid it.
> 
> The veterinarian agreed to prescribe stanozolol.
> 
> Can it be used without prednisolone, only with doxy she is