Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
Beth Kelley, thank you. have looked at the site. now have a direction. Bless us all. cz m From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:26:22 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool Czadna, Beth is right, there is a great Yahoo group for cats with heart murmurs. The url is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ You really do need to have an echo done by a feline cardiologist. They can usually be found at the ag college in your state. Now, as far as the heart meds interacting with the leukemia meds, I don't know - you might have to have both vets talk. Anyway, that group was immensely helpful to me when my MIssy was diagnosed with a heart murmur. Good luck, Kelley and Missy On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Heart murmurs can get worse with time. They might not require meds at first but may later. Usually they have you go for an echocardiogram. My cat was on 5 pills per day. I believe there is a Yahoo group for cats with this condition. They may be more helpful than this list. Beth czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
The best thing you can do for your cat, before you even see a specialist, is to immediately get some CoQ10, GNC Vegetarian type (it comes in powder form in a capsule instead of oil in a gel cap). Get the 100 mg, and mix one half of it daily into food tasteless. I have used it on a cat that has a heart and kidney problem for the past 1 ½ years she is doing extremely well. All FIV/FeLV and older cats get it as well. This does not interfere with FeLV, in fact, helps. Any really good doctor should recommend CoQ10 for any heart problem, as well as gum and tooth diseases. For blood in stool has it been analyzed? If its fresh blood, something is the matter at the very end or it could be a case of just a very irritated bowel. How about trying to put some probiotics or acidophilus in to food and see what happens? Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:07 PM To: feline leukemia list Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool Beth Kelley, thank you. have looked at the site. now have a direction. Bless us all. cz m _ From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:26:22 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool Czadna, Beth is right, there is a great Yahoo group for cats with heart murmurs. The url is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ You really do need to have an echo done by a feline cardiologist. They can usually be found at the ag college in your state. Now, as far as the heart meds interacting with the leukemia meds, I don't know - you might have to have both vets talk. Anyway, that group was immensely helpful to me when my MIssy was diagnosed with a heart murmur. Good luck, Kelley and Missy On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Heart murmurs can get worse with time. They might not require meds at first but may later. Usually they have you go for an echocardiogram. My cat was on 5 pills per day. I believe there is a Yahoo group for cats with this condition. They may be more helpful than this list. Beth czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties%2a Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they cant complain about it, that they cant fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
I have been using prebiotics for Casey wo has a problem with diahrrea. So far, it seems to be working because I don't find any looses stools in any of the boxes. Hadn't thought about that for urinary prblems. Homey has reoccuring problems with crystals in her urin. whenever I fid small clumps, I head for the cranberry supplement. It comes in a tube and I smear it on her paws and face so she will lick it off. She will not take meds in any form. That too is working. Will get some of the CoQ10 for both of them. Like you said won't hurt them. Thanks for that tip. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: The best thing you can do for your cat, before you even see a specialist, is to immediately get some CoQ10, GNC Vegetarian type (it comes in powder form in a capsule instead of oil in a gel cap). Get the 100 mg, and mix one half of it daily into food tasteless. I have used it on a cat that has a heart and kidney problem for the past 1 ½ years she is doing extremely well. All FIV/FeLV and older cats get it as well. This does not interfere with FeLV, in fact, helps. Any really good doctor should recommend CoQ10 for any heart problem, as well as gum and tooth diseases. For blood in stool has it been analyzed? If its fresh blood, something is the matter at the very end or it could be a case of just a very irritated bowel. How about trying to put some probiotics or acidophilus in to food and see what happens? Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:07 PM To: feline leukemia list Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool Beth Kelley, thank you. have looked at the site. now have a direction. Bless us all. cz m _ From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:26:22 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool Czadna, Beth is right, there is a great Yahoo group for cats with heart murmurs. The url is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ You really do need to have an echo done by a feline cardiologist. They can usually be found at the ag college in your state. Now, as far as the heart meds interacting with the leukemia meds, I don't know - you might have to have both vets talk. Anyway, that group was immensely helpful to me when my MIssy was diagnosed with a heart murmur. Good luck, Kelley and Missy On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Heart murmurs can get worse with time. They might not require meds at first but may later. Usually they have you go for an echocardiogram. My cat was on 5 pills per day. I believe there is a Yahoo group for cats with this condition. They may be more helpful than this list. Beth czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http
[Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
Heart murmurs can get worse with time. They might not require meds at first but may later. Usually they have you go for an echocardiogram. My cat was on 5 pills per day. I believe there is a Yahoo group for cats with this condition. They may be more helpful than this list. Beth czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
Czadna, Beth is right, there is a great Yahoo group for cats with heart murmurs. The url is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ You really do need to have an echo done by a feline cardiologist. They can usually be found at the ag college in your state. Now, as far as the heart meds interacting with the leukemia meds, I don't know - you might have to have both vets talk. Anyway, that group was immensely helpful to me when my MIssy was diagnosed with a heart murmur. Good luck, Kelley and Missy On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Heart murmurs can get worse with time. They might not require meds at first but may later. Usually they have you go for an echocardiogram. My cat was on 5 pills per day. I believe there is a Yahoo group for cats with this condition. They may be more helpful than this list. Beth czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
