Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-07 Thread glenda Goodman
Hi Marylyn, 
At this point I am dealing with, what I believe, is a
very determined , aggressive kitty, desperately
seeking a 'good' home. What makes me say this is, my
best friend down the street, was also affected by
Marmalade. She has one kitty, Addey, whom is like an
obsession to her, and this is putting it mildly...
Addey is her only cat, because Addey controls the
home. Otherwise, my friend would have at least one
more cat...Anyway, Addey is allowed outside.My friend
has a beautiful yard/home and there is a lovely ravene
area behind my friend's house, where Addey likes to
hunt...My friend will not deprive her of her joys in
life and I have begged my friend to please not allow
Addey out after dark, advice like that...We do have
foxes, etc.
 Well, Marmalade would make the rounds between my
friend's house and mine. We are less than a block
apart. Marmalade was being very aggressive with Addey
too and there were howling matches during the day and
evening, but I do not believe any violent contacts. I
had heard it is rare for a male cat to be so
aggressive with a female...I do not doubt it was just
a matter of time before Marmalade would have had a
physical conflict with Addey. 
It would take a huge adjustment with my cats and the
other cats in the neighborhood to welcome Marmalade. I
know once a kitty feels secure, there would be no
competition and of course, after being neutered, that
would probably do the trick. If I had fewer of my own
cats and the time to put in a rehabiliation project
like this, I would do it, because it would, along with
everything else, be very interesting. I am only hoping
right now, these couple of days at the shelter, settle
Marmalade down and perhaps there is a different side
to him. I'll be visiting him today and talking to the
shelter people. Thursday morning is the FeLV/FIV test.
My old vet, who is only a few blocks from the shelter,
will be testing him and during the physical handling
of Marmalade he can also give me his opinion. I'm sure
he will love testing him...I do not think it will be
fun for him...my vet. We shall see? 
I do appreciate the sensitivity and caring nature of
everyone here. I so completely understand, because I
feel the same way...Thank you, Glenda  
--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you let Marmalade be your cat too?  Little
 ferals make the most 
 wonderful friends and he would love to work for you
 and live with you.  It 
 sounds as though he has learned who the boss cat is.
  Dixie has some cats 
 that report to her.  We live on a farm and she is an
 inside cat, having 
 carefully worked her way into my heart the way
 Marmalade is trying to work 
 into yours.  There are cats, one particular here,
 that hangs out and helps 
 with the varmint chores outside.  Mom has three that
 hang out at her house 
 and she hasn't had a mouse in over 11 years.  A
 shelter and food go a long 
 way toward taming a cat.
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice
 here...
 
 
  THANK YOU WENDY, YES, I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF
 TO
  CHANGE THE FATE OF MARMALADE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE
  WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS IF IT WERE NOT FOR ME. IF
 HE
  TESTS NEG. I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. WE
 ARE
  IN THE STONE AGE HERE MENTALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO
 CATS.
  I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE EVEN IN HAWK SPRINGS , WYO.
  THERE IS A FERAL RESCUE GROUP CONSIDERING WYOMING
 DOES
  NOT EVEN HAVE DECENT ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. THEY ARE
 SO
  BACKWARDS. I THINK DOG FIGHTING IS STILL LEGAL
 THERE?
  SOMEONE MIGHT CHECK THIS OUT IF THEY ARE
  WONDERING.WHEN I WAS CRUISING petfinder.com I
 FOUND A
  SHELTER IN HAWK SPRINGS, WYOMING WITH A REALLY
 AMAZING
  WEB-SITE. IT IS VERY ADVANCED...INTERESTING.  I
 WAS
  ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WEB-SITE FOR SHELTERS
 IN
  MONTANA. GO TO montanapets.org
  IT IS BEAUTIFULLY ORGANIZED. IT LETS YOU CLICK ALL
 THE
  SHELTERS IN THE STATE. EVERY STATE SHOULD BE SET
 UP
  LIKE THAT. IT MAKES COMMUNICATING and COOPERATION
  BETWEEN SHELTERS SO EASY ...WELL, ENOUGH OF THE
  CHATTER. IM OFF TO BED. THANK YOU AGAIN,
 EVERYONE,
  FOR YOUR HELP. GLENDA
  --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Glenda,
 
  I would point those ladies in the direction of an
  online FIV group.  I don't know of one
 specifically,
  but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo
  probably has one.  You can search for them on the
  Internet.
 
  I don't know what to tell you about your
 situation
  with Marmalade.  It's

Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread glenda Goodman

--- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Hi Everyone,
 Well there are two subjects here I want to get
 advice
 and support on. 
 Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I
 knew
 of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
 seems
 a couple of her clients came in today and received
 the
 bad news that their two kittens had tested positive
 for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens
 were sisters and both very bright, educated
 gals...one
 being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good
 minds, I am hoping,  they might give our group here
 a
 visit and be interested in learning, from this very
 progressive site...I will be talking to them later
 today and try to convince them not to panic and not
 opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of
 any rescue groups that would take these
 kittens...This
 is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here,
 in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue
 organization they could turn these kittens over to. 
 
  They do have other cats that share the household.
 The
 kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys
 flood me with some helpful information for these
 gals,
 so we can give them some hope for their kittens and
 make them realize there are options...I'm hoping
 they
 might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not
 I
 will at least forward them some good information
 from
 you guys...
 These two ladies are in their late twenties or early
 thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are
 here in farm country where 90% of the vets still
 believe, with all their heart, the only real option,
 is putting positive cats down...
 Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with
 today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the
 base
 of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son
 had let him outside...It was evening...I do know
 better than to let my kitties outside at night...but
 with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy
 schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto
 had
 been locked up all day. OK, well the worst
 happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE
 KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON
 FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED.
 
 FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO. HE TAKES CARE OF OUR YARD
 AND
 HIS KITTY FAMILY. FEETO CHASED THAT STRANGE KITTY
 AWAY. HOWEVER , BEFORE IT WAS OVER, THERE WAS A
 BATTLE. THE BATTLE GROUND WAS COVERED IN WHITE AND
 ORANGE FUR THE NEXT DAY. FEETO IS A BROWN TABBY WITH
 24 VERY SHARP CLAWS. IT WAS OVER ALMOST BEFORE IT
 BEGAN, BUT I WAS SICK KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY MY
 FEETO DID NOT SUFFER A BITE SOMEWHERE ON HIS BODY. A
 FEW DAYS LATER, I FOUND IT, THE BITE. FEETO'S CHEEK
 WAS ALL PUFFED UP. IT DRAINED THAT NIGHT AND THE
 NEXT
 DAY HE WAS ON ANTIBIOTICS...JUST TO BE SURE. A WEEK
 EARLIER I HAD BOUGHT A CAT TRAP AND HAD BEEN TRYING
 TO
 TRAP THE STRANGE CAT...NO LUCK UNTIL LAST NIGHT.
 WELL,
 TODAY, THE STRANGE CAT IS AT OUR LOCAL SHELTER. HE
 IS
 A PRETTY CAT , BUT THEY SAID HE IS IN WITH THE WILD
 CATS. HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. I WANT TO NAME HIM
 MARMALADE.HE DESERVES A NAME... HE HISSED AT ME LAST
 NIGHT, BUT SETTLED DOWN AFTER I TALKED, QUIETLY TO
 HIM. THEN THE POLICEMAN TOOK HIM AND HAULED HIM OFF
 TO
 THE SHELTER. I WAS TOLD THEY WILL KEEP HIM 3-DAYS.
 THEN HE WILL BE PUT DOWN. 
 I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT MY FEETO HAVING BEEN BITTEN,
 SO I HAVE GOTTEN PERMISSION TO TAKE HIM, MARMALADE,
 IN
 TO BE TESTED FOR FeLV AND FIV. I TOLD MY FRIEND, IF
 HE
 TESTS CLEAN, IT IS VERY SAD HE WILL BE PUT DOWN, A
 BEAUTIFUL AND HEALTHY CAT...HE ONLY NEEDS A LITTLE
 TIME TO BE SOCIALIZED. WE HAVE NO OPTIONS
 ,WHATSOEVER,HERE, FOR WILD KITTIES. MY BRAIN WILL
 BE
 WORKING OVERTIME ON WAYS TO SAVE THIS CAT, 
 ESPECIALLY, IF HE TESTS NEGATIVE...MAYBE I CAN BUY
 HIM
 A LITTLE TIME...I DO KNOW, I PROBABLY DRIVE MY
 SHELTER
 HERE A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT OUR HEARTS ARE REALLY ALL
 IN
 THE SAME PLACE, SO WE AT LEAST DO UNDERSTAND EACH
 OTHER. WE HAVE A VERY LOVING SHELTER HERE, BUT IT IS
 ALWAYS A MATTER OF MONEY AND SPACE...
 I WILL APPRECIATE ALL FEEDBACK. 
 I GUESS MOSTLY, I NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL
 THESE
 LADIES THAT HAVE THE FIV+ KITTENS. I WILL ALSO NEED
 A
 LITTLE EDUCATING ABOUT CAT BITES AND WHAT TO EXPECT
 IF
 THIS CAT THAT BIT MY FEETO TESTS POSITIVE FOR FIV. 
 THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR GETTING THROUGH THIS LONG
 RAMBLING POST...
 GLENDA  
 
 



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Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread wendy
Hi Glenda,

I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group.  I don't 
know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo 
probably has one.  You can search for them on the Internet.  

I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade.  It's such a 
shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down.  Such a shame.  Is there not a 
feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact?  What about Alley Cat Allies 
(http://www.alleycat.org/)?  Can you see if there is someone who is already 
feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone) who 
might take him in especially if he's negative for everything?  Here's a link to 
Feral Friends Network, through ACA: http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html  
Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: http://www.felinefriendz.org/  Do 
you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe 
at a discounted rate?  You might as well.  I would not have him put down 
though.  That just doesn't seem right.  After all, you said you thought he was 
looking for love and food.  It would be horrible if he found pts instead.  I 
think most kitties hiss while
 in traps b/c they are scared.  My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is 
doing great.  She jumps in my lap and purrs now.  It's so strange, when only 
less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in.

I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on 
antibiotics AND the wound has already drained.  Keep an eye on the wound and 
make sure it heals up all right.  Good luck Glenda.

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM
Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...


--- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Hi Everyone,
 Well there are two subjects here I want to get
 advice
 and support on. 
 Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I
 knew
 of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
 seems
 a couple of her clients came in today and received
 the
 bad news that their two kittens had tested positive
 for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens
 were sisters and both very bright, educated
 gals...one
 being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good
 minds, I am hoping,  they might give our group here
 a
 visit and be interested in learning, from this very
 progressive site...I will be talking to them later
 today and try to convince them not to panic and not
 opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of
 any rescue groups that would take these
 kittens...This
 is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here,
 in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue
 organization they could turn these kittens over to. 
 
  They do have other cats that share the household.
 The
 kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys
 flood me with some helpful information for these
 gals,
 so we can give them some hope for their kittens and
 make them realize there are options...I'm hoping
 they
 might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not
 I
 will at least forward them some good information
 from
 you guys...
 These two ladies are in their late twenties or early
 thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are
 here in farm country where 90% of the vets still
 believe, with all their heart, the only real option,
 is putting positive cats down...
 Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with
 today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the
 base
 of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son
 had let him outside...It was evening...I do know
 better than to let my kitties outside at night...but
 with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy
 schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto
 had
 been locked up all day. OK, well the worst
 happened...almost the worst...THERE WAS A STRANGE
 KITTY OUTSIDE IN OUR YARD. HE WAS VERY INTENT ON
 FINDING A GOOD HOME WHERE HE MIGHT BE LOVED AND FED.
 
 FEETO IS MY LITTLE HERO. HE TAKES CARE OF OUR YARD
 AND
 HIS KITTY FAMILY. FEETO CHASED THAT STRANGE KITTY
 AWAY. HOWEVER , BEFORE IT WAS OVER, THERE WAS A
 BATTLE. THE BATTLE GROUND WAS COVERED IN WHITE AND
 ORANGE FUR THE NEXT DAY. FEETO IS A BROWN TABBY WITH
 24 VERY SHARP CLAWS. IT WAS OVER ALMOST BEFORE IT
 BEGAN, BUT I WAS SICK KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY MY
 FEETO DID NOT SUFFER A BITE SOMEWHERE ON HIS BODY. A
 FEW DAYS LATER, I FOUND IT, THE BITE. FEETO'S CHEEK
 WAS ALL PUFFED UP. IT DRAINED THAT NIGHT AND THE
 NEXT
 DAY HE WAS ON ANTIBIOTICS...JUST TO BE SURE. A WEEK
 EARLIER I HAD

Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
I already mentioned in my last email-join FIVcats2 yahoo group - Susan Hoffman 
is the moderator, I believe -it's a very active group.
  - Original Message - 
  From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...


  Hi Glenda,

  I would point those ladies in the direction of an online FIV group.  I don't 
know of one specifically, but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo 
probably has one.  You can search for them on the Internet.  

  I don't know what to tell you about your situation with Marmalade.  It's such 
a shame that this gorgeous cat has to be put down.  Such a shame.  Is there not 
a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can contact?  What about Alley Cat 
Allies (http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/)?  Can you see if 
there is someone who is already feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you 
(ACA might know of someone) who might take him in especially if he's negative 
for everything?  Here's a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA: 
http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html
  Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha: 
http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/  Do you think you 
can have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted 
rate?  You might as well.  I would not have him put down though.  That just 
doesn't seem right.  After all, you said you thought he was looking for love 
and food.  It would be horrible if he found pts instead.  I think most kitties 
hiss while
   in traps b/c they are scared.  My Ensie, the one I brought home from NC, is 
doing great.  She jumps in my lap and purrs now.  It's so strange, when only 
less than a month ago she was freaking out in the cage she was trapped in.

  I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite, especially since he's on 
antibiotics AND the wound has already drained.  Keep an eye on the wound and 
make sure it heals up all right.  Good luck Glenda.

  :)
  Wendy
   
  Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


  - Original Message 
  From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM
  Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...


  --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
   From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   
   Hi Everyone,
   Well there are two subjects here I want to get
   advice
   and support on. 
   Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I
   knew
   of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
   seems
   a couple of her clients came in today and received
   the
   bad news that their two kittens had tested positive
   for FIV. She told me, the people who had the kittens
   were sisters and both very bright, educated
   gals...one
   being an attorney, even...so, obviously having good
   minds, I am hoping,  they might give our group here
   a
   visit and be interested in learning, from this very
   progressive site...I will be talking to them later
   today and try to convince them not to panic and not
   opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know of
   any rescue groups that would take these
   kittens...This
   is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet, here,
   in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue
   organization they could turn these kittens over to. 
   
They do have other cats that share the household.
   The
   kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys
   flood me with some helpful information for these
   gals,
   so we can give them some hope for their kittens and
   make them realize there are options...I'm hoping
   they
   might be willing to sign on to this list,but if not
   I
   will at least forward them some good information
   from
   you guys...
   These two ladies are in their late twenties or early
   thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We are
   here in farm country where 90% of the vets still
   believe, with all their heart, the only real option,
   is putting positive cats down...
   Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing with
   today: My pride and joy, kitty, Feeto, was at the
   base
   of my step, outside my door about 6-days ago. My son
   had let him outside...It was evening...I do know
   better than to let my kitties outside at night...but
   with my positive kitty and having to be on crazy
   schedules...and keeping everyone seperated, Feeto
   had
   been locked up all day. OK, well

Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread glenda Goodman
HIDEYO, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I'M FORWARDING EMAILS
TO THESE LADIES. I WILL CALL THEM IN A COUPLE DAYS TO
CHECK ON HOW THEY ARE DECIDING TO APPROACH THEIR
ISSUES...THANKS, GLENDA
--- HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I already mentioned in my last email-join FIVcats2
 yahoo group - Susan Hoffman is the moderator, I
 believe -it's a very active group.
   - Original Message - 
   From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To:

felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
   Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM
   Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice
 here...
 
 
   Hi Glenda,
 
   I would point those ladies in the direction of an
 online FIV group.  I don't know of one specifically,
 but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo
 probably has one.  You can search for them on the
 Internet.  
 
   I don't know what to tell you about your situation
 with Marmalade.  It's such a shame that this
 gorgeous cat has to be put down.  Such a shame.  Is
 there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can
 contact?  What about Alley Cat Allies

(http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/)?
  Can you see if there is someone who is already
 feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA
 might know of someone) who might take him in
 especially if he's negative for everything?  Here's
 a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA:

http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html
  Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha:

http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/
  Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered
 while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? 
 You might as well.  I would not have him put down
 though.  That just doesn't seem right.  After all,
 you said you thought he was looking for love and
 food.  It would be horrible if he found pts instead.
  I think most kitties hiss while
in traps b/c they are scared.  My Ensie, the one
 I brought home from NC, is doing great.  She jumps
 in my lap and purrs now.  It's so strange, when only
 less than a month ago she was freaking out in the
 cage she was trapped in.
 
   I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite,
 especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound
 has already drained.  Keep an eye on the wound and
 make sure it heals up all right.  Good luck Glenda.
 
   :)
   Wendy

   Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
 is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
 ~~~
 
 
   - Original Message 
   From: glenda Goodman

[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To:

felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM
   Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice
 here...
 
 
   --- glenda Goodman

[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: glenda Goodman

[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
To:

felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Hi Everyone,
Well there are two subjects here I want to get
advice
and support on. 
Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if
 I
knew
of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
seems
a couple of her clients came in today and
 received
the
bad news that their two kittens had tested
 positive
for FIV. She told me, the people who had the
 kittens
were sisters and both very bright, educated
gals...one
being an attorney, even...so, obviously having
 good
minds, I am hoping,  they might give our group
 here
a
visit and be interested in learning, from this
 very
progressive site...I will be talking to them
 later
today and try to convince them not to panic and
 not
opt to have their kittens put down. I do not
 know of
any rescue groups that would take these
kittens...This
is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet,
 here,
in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a
 rescue
organization they could turn these kittens over
 to. 

 They do have other cats that share the
 household.
The
kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you
 guys
flood me with some helpful information for these
gals,
so we can give them some hope for their kittens
 and
make them realize there are options...I'm hoping
they
might be willing to sign on to this list,but if
 not
I
will at least forward them some good information
from
you guys...
These two ladies are in their late twenties or
 early
thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We
 are
here in farm country where 90% of the vets still
believe, with all their heart, the only real
 option,
is putting positive cats down...
Now, for my second little problem I'm dealing
 with
today: My pride

Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Good luck -- please keep me posted -- I will be praying for these babies - I 
just have a feeling though they are false positive..
  - Original Message - 
  From: glenda Goodmanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...


  HIDEYO, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I'M FORWARDING EMAILS
  TO THESE LADIES. I WILL CALL THEM IN A COUPLE DAYS TO
  CHECK ON HOW THEY ARE DECIDING TO APPROACH THEIR
  ISSUES...THANKS, GLENDA
  --- HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I already mentioned in my last email-join FIVcats2
   yahoo group - Susan Hoffman is the moderator, I
   believe -it's a very active group.
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To:
  
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:[EMAIL 
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 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice
   here...
   
   
 Hi Glenda,
   
 I would point those ladies in the direction of an
   online FIV group.  I don't know of one specifically,
   but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo
   probably has one.  You can search for them on the
   Internet.  
   
 I don't know what to tell you about your situation
   with Marmalade.  It's such a shame that this
   gorgeous cat has to be put down.  Such a shame.  Is
   there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can
   contact?  What about Alley Cat Allies
  
  
(http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/http://www.alleycat.org/%3Chttp://www.alleycat.org/)?
Can you see if there is someone who is already
   feeding a feral colony somewhere close to you (ACA
   might know of someone) who might take him in
   especially if he's negative for everything?  Here's
   a link to Feral Friends Network, through ACA:
  
  
http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.htmlhttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html%3Chttp://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html
Here's the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha:
  
  
http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/http://www.felinefriendz.org/%3Chttp://www.felinefriendz.org/
Do you think you can have this cat spayed/neutered
   while he's at the vets, maybe at a discounted rate? 
   You might as well.  I would not have him put down
   though.  That just doesn't seem right.  After all,
   you said you thought he was looking for love and
   food.  It would be horrible if he found pts instead.
I think most kitties hiss while
  in traps b/c they are scared.  My Ensie, the one
   I brought home from NC, is doing great.  She jumps
   in my lap and purrs now.  It's so strange, when only
   less than a month ago she was freaking out in the
   cage she was trapped in.
   
 I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite,
   especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound
   has already drained.  Keep an eye on the wound and
   make sure it heals up all right.  Good luck Glenda.
   
 :)
 Wendy
  
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
   committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
   is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
   ~~~
   
   
 - Original Message 
 From: glenda Goodman
  
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 To:
  
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:[EMAIL 
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 Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM
 Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice
   here...
   
   
 --- glenda Goodman
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
  Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
  From: glenda Goodman
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
  To:
  
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  
  Hi Everyone,
  Well there are two subjects here I want to get
  advice
  and support on. 
  Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if
   I
  knew
  of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
  seems
  a couple of her clients came in today and
   received
  the
  bad news that their two kittens had tested
   positive
  for FIV. She told me, the people who had the
   kittens
  were sisters and both very bright, educated
  gals...one
  being an attorney, even...so, obviously having
   good
  minds, I am hoping,  they might give our group
   here
  a
  visit and be interested in learning, from this
   very
  progressive site...I

Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread glenda Goodman
THANK YOU WENDY, YES, I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO
CHANGE THE FATE OF MARMALADE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE
WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS IF IT WERE NOT FOR ME. IF HE
TESTS NEG. I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. WE ARE
IN THE STONE AGE HERE MENTALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO CATS.
I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE EVEN IN HAWK SPRINGS , WYO.
THERE IS A FERAL RESCUE GROUP CONSIDERING WYOMING DOES
NOT EVEN HAVE DECENT ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. THEY ARE SO
BACKWARDS. I THINK DOG FIGHTING IS STILL LEGAL THERE?
SOMEONE MIGHT CHECK THIS OUT IF THEY ARE
WONDERING.WHEN I WAS CRUISING petfinder.com I FOUND A
SHELTER IN HAWK SPRINGS, WYOMING WITH A REALLY AMAZING
WEB-SITE. IT IS VERY ADVANCED...INTERESTING.  I WAS
ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WEB-SITE FOR SHELTERS IN
MONTANA. GO TO montanapets.org
IT IS BEAUTIFULLY ORGANIZED. IT LETS YOU CLICK ALL THE
SHELTERS IN THE STATE. EVERY STATE SHOULD BE SET UP
LIKE THAT. IT MAKES COMMUNICATING and COOPERATION
BETWEEN SHELTERS SO EASY ...WELL, ENOUGH OF THE
CHATTER. IM OFF TO BED. THANK YOU AGAIN, EVERYONE,
FOR YOUR HELP. GLENDA
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Glenda,
 
 I would point those ladies in the direction of an
 online FIV group.  I don't know of one specifically,
 but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo
 probably has one.  You can search for them on the
 Internet.  
 
 I don't know what to tell you about your situation
 with Marmalade.  It's such a shame that this
 gorgeous cat has to be put down.  Such a shame.  Is
 there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can
 contact?  What about Alley Cat Allies
 (http://www.alleycat.org/)?  Can you see if there is
 someone who is already feeding a feral colony
 somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone)
 who might take him in especially if he's negative
 for everything?  Here's a link to Feral Friends
 Network, through ACA:
 http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html  Here's
 the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha:
 http://www.felinefriendz.org/  Do you think you can
 have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the
 vets, maybe at a discounted rate?  You might as
 well.  I would not have him put down though.  That
 just doesn't seem right.  After all, you said you
 thought he was looking for love and food.  It would
 be horrible if he found pts instead.  I think most
 kitties hiss while
  in traps b/c they are scared.  My Ensie, the one I
 brought home from NC, is doing great.  She jumps in
 my lap and purrs now.  It's so strange, when only
 less than a month ago she was freaking out in the
 cage she was trapped in.
 
 I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite,
 especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound
 has already drained.  Keep an eye on the wound and
 make sure it heals up all right.  Good luck Glenda.
 
 :)
 Wendy
  
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
 is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
 ~~~
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM
 Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...
 
 
 --- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
  From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  
  Hi Everyone,
  Well there are two subjects here I want to get
  advice
  and support on. 
  Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I
  knew
  of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
  seems
  a couple of her clients came in today and received
  the
  bad news that their two kittens had tested
 positive
  for FIV. She told me, the people who had the
 kittens
  were sisters and both very bright, educated
  gals...one
  being an attorney, even...so, obviously having
 good
  minds, I am hoping,  they might give our group
 here
  a
  visit and be interested in learning, from this
 very
  progressive site...I will be talking to them later
  today and try to convince them not to panic and
 not
  opt to have their kittens put down. I do not know
 of
  any rescue groups that would take these
  kittens...This
  is what they had asked my vet, Dr. Kim Collet,
 here,
  in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, if she knew of a rescue
  organization they could turn these kittens over
 to. 
  
   They do have other cats that share the household.
  The
  kittens are only about 12-weeks old. Can you guys
  flood me with some helpful information for these
  gals,
  so we can give them some hope for their kittens
 and
  make them realize there are options...I'm hoping
  they
  might be willing to sign on to this list,but if
 not
  I
  will at least forward them some good information
  from
  you guys...
  These two ladies are in their late twenties or
 early
  thirties...I asked my vet how old they were...We
 are
  here in farm country where 90% of the vets still
  believe, with all their heart, the only real
 option,
  is putting positive cats

Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...

2007-08-06 Thread Marylyn
Can you let Marmalade be your cat too?  Little ferals make the most 
wonderful friends and he would love to work for you and live with you.  It 
sounds as though he has learned who the boss cat is.  Dixie has some cats 
that report to her.  We live on a farm and she is an inside cat, having 
carefully worked her way into my heart the way Marmalade is trying to work 
into yours.  There are cats, one particular here, that hangs out and helps 
with the varmint chores outside.  Mom has three that hang out at her house 
and she hasn't had a mouse in over 11 years.  A shelter and food go a long 
way toward taming a cat.





If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...



THANK YOU WENDY, YES, I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO
CHANGE THE FATE OF MARMALADE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE
WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS IF IT WERE NOT FOR ME. IF HE
TESTS NEG. I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. WE ARE
IN THE STONE AGE HERE MENTALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO CATS.
I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE EVEN IN HAWK SPRINGS , WYO.
THERE IS A FERAL RESCUE GROUP CONSIDERING WYOMING DOES
NOT EVEN HAVE DECENT ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS. THEY ARE SO
BACKWARDS. I THINK DOG FIGHTING IS STILL LEGAL THERE?
SOMEONE MIGHT CHECK THIS OUT IF THEY ARE
WONDERING.WHEN I WAS CRUISING petfinder.com I FOUND A
SHELTER IN HAWK SPRINGS, WYOMING WITH A REALLY AMAZING
WEB-SITE. IT IS VERY ADVANCED...INTERESTING.  I WAS
ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WEB-SITE FOR SHELTERS IN
MONTANA. GO TO montanapets.org
IT IS BEAUTIFULLY ORGANIZED. IT LETS YOU CLICK ALL THE
SHELTERS IN THE STATE. EVERY STATE SHOULD BE SET UP
LIKE THAT. IT MAKES COMMUNICATING and COOPERATION
BETWEEN SHELTERS SO EASY ...WELL, ENOUGH OF THE
CHATTER. IM OFF TO BED. THANK YOU AGAIN, EVERYONE,
FOR YOUR HELP. GLENDA
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Glenda,

I would point those ladies in the direction of an
online FIV group.  I don't know of one specifically,
but I know there are several out there.  Yahoo
probably has one.  You can search for them on the
Internet.

I don't know what to tell you about your situation
with Marmalade.  It's such a shame that this
gorgeous cat has to be put down.  Such a shame.  Is
there not a feral group anywhere in Nebraska you can
contact?  What about Alley Cat Allies
(http://www.alleycat.org/)?  Can you see if there is
someone who is already feeding a feral colony
somewhere close to you (ACA might know of someone)
who might take him in especially if he's negative
for everything?  Here's a link to Feral Friends
Network, through ACA:
http://www.alleycat.org/feral_friends.html  Here's
the link to Feline Friendz in Omaha:
http://www.felinefriendz.org/  Do you think you can
have this cat spayed/neutered while he's at the
vets, maybe at a discounted rate?  You might as
well.  I would not have him put down though.  That
just doesn't seem right.  After all, you said you
thought he was looking for love and food.  It would
be horrible if he found pts instead.  I think most
kitties hiss while
 in traps b/c they are scared.  My Ensie, the one I
brought home from NC, is doing great.  She jumps in
my lap and purrs now.  It's so strange, when only
less than a month ago she was freaking out in the
cage she was trapped in.

I would not worry too much about Feeto's bite,
especially since he's on antibiotics AND the wound
has already drained.  Keep an eye on the wound and
make sure it heals up all right.  Good luck Glenda.

:)
Wendy

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
~~~


- Original Message 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:18:37 PM
Subject: Fwd: OT: need a little quick advice here...


--- glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: need a little quick advice here...
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hi Everyone,
 Well there are two subjects here I want to get
 advice
 and support on.
 Today my very wonderful vet called me to ask if I
 knew
 of a rescue facility that took FIV+ kitties. It
 seems
 a couple of her clients came in today and received
 the
 bad news that their two kittens had tested
positive
 for FIV. She told me, the people who had the
kittens
 were sisters and both very bright, educated
 gals...one
 being an attorney, even...so, obviously having
good
 minds, I am hoping,  they might