Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2013-01-06 Thread Lee Evans

My crew would perch on the edge of the boxes and turn them over, water, 
water everywhere. Some of the lower IQ ones would try to do their 
business in the water filled boxes and all would try to drink out of 
them. Ugh!
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






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Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 


I DON'T THINK THE WATER FILLED BOXES WOULD WORK FOR MINE, HARLEY AND CASEY 
LOVE TO PLAY WITH WATER.


 CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I fill litter boxes with water and put in places where I don't want my cats 
 to use the floor for the toilet.It is said that cats don't like the feel of 
 aluminum too.So, maybe a dollar shower curtain ,the aluminum material,and 
 the smell of citrus,will keep them off your couch.Cathy


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2013-01-02 Thread dlgegg
I DON'T THINK THE WATER FILLED BOXES WOULD WORK FOR MINE, HARLEY AND CASEY LOVE 
TO PLAY WITH WATER.


 CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I fill litter boxes with water and put in places where I don't want my cats 
 to use the floor for the toilet.It is said that cats don't like the feel of 
 aluminum too.So, maybe a dollar shower curtain ,the aluminum material,and the 
 smell of citrus,will keep them off your couch.Cathy


From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?


I went with an outoor love seat and 2 chairs with removable cushions. I have a 
glider already. If someone comes over I'll get the cushions out of the spare 
bedroom and put them on the patio furniture. lol.
 
I think you could mix the cat attract. Maybe start out with it straight, and if 
it works, start mixing regular back in I had one cat years ago that cat 
attract worke for.
 
I also know people use the small kiddy wading pools for litter boxesI've 
never tried that, but when it got bad in the past, I just put litter boxes in 
every room they used. I sat them on the sofas, on a chest at the bottom of my 
bed, etc... I'm down to 5 cats, but I still have to separate food and water 
dishes in all different rooms I always have more food bowls than there are 
cats. You might increase the number of litter boxes and spread them out. The 
cats do like to corner and pounce on unsuspecting victims eating or in the 
litterbox!
 
God bless you and all who rescue. Believe it or not, I've had more dog problems 
recently. I haven't even moved the patio furniture from the basement where it 
was delivered up to the living room. My old sofas are in various stages of 
being taken apart since I can't give them to Goodwill! I've been 'handicapping' 
the back deck stairs with lights and astro turf to prevent falls from a couple 
of elderly dogs


Happy New Year!
tonya
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?


To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to look this up in the 
phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see 
if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It 
seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best 
of the human species.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-31 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I fill litter boxes with water and put in places where I don't want my cats to 
use the floor for the toilet.It is said that cats don't like the feel of 
aluminum too.So, maybe a dollar shower curtain ,the aluminum material,and the 
smell of citrus,will keep them off your couch.Cathy


From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?


I went with an outoor love seat and 2 chairs with removable cushions. I have a 
glider already. If someone comes over I'll get the cushions out of the spare 
bedroom and put them on the patio furniture. lol.
 
I think you could mix the cat attract. Maybe start out with it straight, and if 
it works, start mixing regular back in I had one cat years ago that cat 
attract worke for.
 
I also know people use the small kiddy wading pools for litter boxesI've 
never tried that, but when it got bad in the past, I just put litter boxes in 
every room they used. I sat them on the sofas, on a chest at the bottom of my 
bed, etc... I'm down to 5 cats, but I still have to separate food and water 
dishes in all different rooms I always have more food bowls than there are 
cats. You might increase the number of litter boxes and spread them out. The 
cats do like to corner and pounce on unsuspecting victims eating or in the 
litterbox!
 
God bless you and all who rescue. Believe it or not, I've had more dog problems 
recently. I haven't even moved the patio furniture from the basement where it 
was delivered up to the living room. My old sofas are in various stages of 
being taken apart since I can't give them to Goodwill! I've been 'handicapping' 
the back deck stairs with lights and astro turf to prevent falls from a couple 
of elderly dogs


Happy New Year!
tonya
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?


To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to look this up in the 
phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see 
if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It 
seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best 
of the human species.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-30 Thread catatonya
I went with an outoor love seat and 2 chairs with removable cushions. I have a 
glider already. If someone comes over I'll get the cushions out of the spare 
bedroom and put them on the patio furniture. lol.
 
I think you could mix the cat attract. Maybe start out with it straight, and if 
it works, start mixing regular back in I had one cat years ago that cat 
attract worke for.
 
I also know people use the small kiddy wading pools for litter boxesI've 
never tried that, but when it got bad in the past, I just put litter boxes in 
every room they used. I sat them on the sofas, on a chest at the bottom of my 
bed, etc... I'm down to 5 cats, but I still have to separate food and water 
dishes in all different rooms I always have more food bowls than there are 
cats. You might increase the number of litter boxes and spread them out. The 
cats do like to corner and pounce on unsuspecting victims eating or in the 
litterbox!
 
God bless you and all who rescue. Believe it or not, I've had more dog problems 
recently. I haven't even moved the patio furniture from the basement where it 
was delivered up to the living room. My old sofas are in various stages of 
being taken apart since I can't give them to Goodwill! I've been 'handicapping' 
the back deck stairs with lights and astro turf to prevent falls from a couple 
of elderly dogs
 
 
Happy New Year!
tonya


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-10 Thread catatonya
Positively crazy! lol!




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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

Tonya, 
You have such positive outlook, god bless you!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:


Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered 
my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a 
lot..on hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions 
made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live 
by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I 
have company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on 
the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted 
layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off 
the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the 
sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they 
have the power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  
You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when 
the pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can 
have the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  
that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and 
turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually 
get donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box 
that I no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  
The President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an 
outside shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will 
never learn litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner 
passed away.  They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-10 Thread MaiMaiPG
Consider Bitter Apple for chewing issues and Feliway for anxiety  
issues.  I have some metal outdoor chairs in my sunroom and they are  
very comfortable.  I had different cushions fixed for looks but the  
frames are wonderful and they swivel which is extremely great in this  
room.  Suggest some of the outdoor fabric conditioners/water proofing  
sprays--Thompson etc. for the cushions.  Air out for a while so there  
is no fumes in the house though.

On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:59 PM, catatonya wrote:


Positively crazy! lol!

From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

Tonya,
You have such positive outlook, god bless you!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:


Thanks Lee,

I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that  
pulls all things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and  
pray she didn't kill herself trying to chew it. She chews  
electrical cords as well and shattered my laptop display She  
has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on hard tile  
floors


Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with  
cushions made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too  
comfy, but I live by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in  
the spare bedroom unless I have company.  I kept all sofa cushions  
put away already, and they peed on the sofas anyway. No wicker, but  
they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.


Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof  
quilted layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the  
covers, peel off the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket,  
and go back to sleep!


I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except  
the sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want.  
They know they have the power!


I saw a lots great ideas!

My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats  
they will eventually have kidney problems true.


tonya

From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the  
furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach  
one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you  
are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down  
to stick it to the sofa material.  It doesn't have to be perfect  
but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa.   
You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office  
supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.   
You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers  
to old furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes  
closes up when the pin is removed.


Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?   
You can have the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to  
look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone  
an upholstery company and see if they can do that.


As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate  
room  that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you  
living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat.


I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed  
with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very  
expensive.  I usually get donated litter here.  I have so many cats  
who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper  
scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The President of one  
of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter  
attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn  
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner  
passed away.  They are older cats with set habits and some health  
issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the cat rescue movement is   
filled with saints and angels, the best of the human species.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread catatonya
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive cat DD is 
doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents over the summer, 
and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet visit found her 
healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating bills 
in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to no 
effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in plastic 
and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the plastic away 
and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a love seat turned 
upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!
 
tonya



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat
  


For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults 
with bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With 
all the cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem 
with at least one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my 
hair out and dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly 
mom's disposable mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't 
incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in 
case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the 
washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the bed was 
her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress 
cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it
 and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to
 feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types 
and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are 
disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make up the 
bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over
 the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an 
accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for 
sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would
 recommend an enzyme type odor eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which
 you can purchase at PetsMart.  It doesn't have any added scent as a 
cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the odor of cat pee to those awful
 perfumes
 they dump into deodorizers.  When you use the enzyme type deodorizer, 
you have to make sure the spot stays wet for at least 24 hours.  If it 
dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
with. There are many brands and many prices.



Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!





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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread PandieAnn
i use rubber sheeting purchased at joanne's fabric store (they just  had 
60% coupon off yesterday).  it absorbs, never soaks thru.  cut and  tear to 
whatever size you need.  just throw in the washer (no bleach) and  dryer.   
i buy the bolt and cut to size(s) I want.  never  fails.  I first discovered 
and used for elderly parents.
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/14/2012 12:12:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
catato...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My  positive cat 
DD is doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting  incidents over 
the summer, and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her  vet visit 
found her healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save  heating 
bills in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on  sofas to 
no effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides  covering in 
plastic and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull  all the 
plastic away and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and  a love 
seat turned upside down in my living room right now where I gave  up!
 
tonya



 
 

From: Lee Evans  moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44  PM
Subject: [Felvtalk]  Bedwetting Cat



 
 

For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads  or the 
adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults  with 
bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.   With all the 
cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem  with at least one 
or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my  hair out and dumping 
the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's  disposable mattress 
pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent  but she couldn't walk so 
needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the  mattress pads.  Then I 
purchased several of the washable types when one  of my very old cats began 
thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can  also purchase a zippered 
waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular  quilted mattress topper over it 
and just toss the topper into the washing  machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing  alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer 
after it evaporates.  But in the  summer, if you don't want to feel you are 
being shrink wrapped, you can use  the top removable types and either toss 
into the wash or toss into the  garbage if they are disposable.  The 
washable are more economical. You  can even make up the bed in the morning and 
then 
put a fitted waterproof  mattress topper over the whole thing to keep 
everything good while you are  gone.  If an accident happens, you just whisk 
the 
cover off and you are  ready for sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I  would recommend an enzyme type odor 
eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme,  which you can purchase at PetsMart.  
It doesn't have any added scent as  a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer 
the odor of cat pee to those  awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers.  
When you use the enzyme  type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot 
stays wet for at least 24  hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial 
bacteria and the  enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer  and see what you come 
up with. There are many brands and many  prices.





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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture by 
the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the underside 
of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the matching strip 
on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  It doesn't have 
to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa.  
You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store to 
clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You can also purchase screw 
pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old furniture.  Doesn't do any 
damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to look this up in the 
phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if 
they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It 
seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best 
of the human species.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread catatonya
Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my 
laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on 
hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions made 
to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live by 
myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have 
company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the sofas 
anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers 
on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top 
mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! 
Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have the 
power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya
 


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Tonya, 
You have such positive outlook, god bless you!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks Lee,
  
 I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
 things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
 herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered 
 my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a 
 lot..on hard tile floors
  
 Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions 
 made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live 
 by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I 
 have company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on 
 the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
  
 Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted 
 layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off 
 the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
  
 I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the 
 sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they 
 have the power!
  
 I saw a lots great ideas! 
  
 My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
 eventually have kidney problems true.
  
 tonya
  
 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 
 To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
 by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
 underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
 matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
 It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
 away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
 office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
 can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
 furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when 
 the pin is removed.  
 
 Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can 
 have the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to look this up in 
 the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and 
 see if they can do that.  
 
 As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
 can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
 the living room over to the misbehaving cat.
 
 I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
 litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
 donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
 no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
 President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
 shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
 litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away. 
  They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  
 It seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the 
 best of the human species.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
You could buy small area rugs to put near places where she jumps up and falls 
down so the tiles won't hurt her old bones.  Most of the smaller rugs are 
washable.  You can get some inexpensive ones at Goodwill or Salvation Army 
Thrift store.  You can also buy plastic pillow protectors which might fit patio 
chair cushions.  

Sheesh!  I had a rescue cat who used to chew electric cords.  I finally had to 
give her away to a woman who had an outside area that was safe for outside cats 
because I was afraid that the little idiot cat would eventually electrocute 
herself or short out all the house wiring.  It's amazing what we put up with 
just because we have a soft heart (and probably are soft in the head too) for 
cats.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 

Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my 
laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a 
lot..on hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions 
made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live by 
myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have 
company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the 
sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers 
on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top 
mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! 
Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have 
the power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya
 
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
 

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when 
the pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can 
have the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed 
away.  They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread MaiMaiPG

Bitter Apple seems to work on chewing issues.
On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Lee Evans wrote:

You could buy small area rugs to put near places where she jumps up  
and falls down so the tiles won't hurt her old bones.  Most of the  
smaller rugs are washable.  You can get some inexpensive ones at  
Goodwill or Salvation Army Thrift store.  You can also buy plastic  
pillow protectors which might fit patio chair cushions.


Sheesh!  I had a rescue cat who used to chew electric cords.  I  
finally had to give her away to a woman who had an outside area that  
was safe for outside cats because I was afraid that the little idiot  
cat would eventually electrocute herself or short out all the house  
wiring.  It's amazing what we put up with just because we have a  
soft heart (and probably are soft in the head too) for cats.



Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and  
nasty neighbors too!



From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

Thanks Lee,

I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that  
pulls all things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray  
she didn't kill herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical  
cords as well and shattered my laptop display She has the  
bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on hard tile floors


Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with  
cushions made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too  
comfy, but I live by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in  
the spare bedroom unless I have company.  I kept all sofa cushions  
put away already, and they peed on the sofas anyway. No wicker, but  
they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.


Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof  
quilted layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the  
covers, peel off the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket,  
and go back to sleep!


I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except  
the sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want.  
They know they have the power!


I saw a lots great ideas!

My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they  
will eventually have kidney problems true.


tonya

From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the  
furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach  
one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you  
are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down to  
stick it to the sofa material.  It doesn't have to be perfect but it  
will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa.  You can  
also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store  
to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You can also  
purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old  
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes  
up when the pin is removed.


Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?   
You can have the back plasticized with a heat process.  You have to  
look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone  
an upholstery company and see if they can do that.


As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate  
room  that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you  
living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat.


I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed  
with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very  
expensive.  I usually get donated litter here.  I have so many cats  
who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper scooper.   
I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The President of one of our  
rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter attached  
to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn litter  
box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed  
away.  They are older cats with set habits and some health issues,  
not adoptable.  It seems like the cat rescue movement is  filled  
with saints and angels, the best of the human species.


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