Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura, I'm so sorry to hear about your Bridget. I hope that you realize that you did not kill her. Your guilt is normal, but not founded. She was lucky to have you loving and caring so well for her. Again, I'm very sorry you lost her. I pray for healing and comfort for you. Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 3:45:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jeff, what a wonderful storyand you a an angel for giving this little guy a chance to live an to know what love feels like. Bravo!! _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Ditto! Lucky kitten and lucky youunconditional love! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Jeff, what a wonderful storyand you a an angel for giving this little guy a chance to live an to know what love feels like. Bravo!! _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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you have no way of knowing if it was the stress or him, but then only God knows that. you can't in hindsight blame yourself for something you could not forsee. i imagine that he was just warning you of the possibility. it would be wrong of him not to. that is why even tho it may cost more, i will just eat less and make more trips to town to make up for it, i use my regular vet. i know his feelings about fiv and felv, we are on the same wavelength, and i trust him. i have 2 felv kitties and he has spayed both. they both came thru with no problems. he is also a uscker like i am and takes care of street cats and finds home for them. i have 2 of them. so don't be hard on yourself. you tried your best and your baby knows you loved her. that is what is important. LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: It wasn't my regular vet - it was the spay/neuter vet who comes to the shelter where I work. He's altered many of my cats and they've all come through fine. But this vet also thinks all cats with FeLV should be euthanized. He's entitled to his opinion. But it was odd this morning when I dropped her off - he said You know, this can stress out a cat with leukemia bring on symptoms. I'm just letting you know so you don't blame me if something happens. Well, yeah, we all know you need to keep these cats away from stress. How many cats have I had spayed or neutered with FeLV they've been OK? Does this sound suspicious or what? --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:52 PM I am so sorry for you loss. You did not kill your cat. You were being responsible to have her spayed. Your vet knew her history--please do not beat yourself up. I wish there were more words to help. Please know you are not to blame yourself. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You might be right about that. I know a woman who's a medium, and when we spoke last night she said that Bridget was sent to me to give me two lessons: one, to learn to let go; and two, to trust my instincts more. Well, that's great, but if I'd trusted my instincts she'd still be alive! She also said that Bridget doesn't blame me and she is very happy on the other side, but will come back to me three days after her death (Saturday). --- On Fri, 3/19/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 12:28 PM please, please remember that we do the very best we can at the moment, with the information at hand. you know, and bridget knows, that you would NEVER have done anything willingly to hurt her. you did what you thought was best, in her best interest. it may be true that you choose not to listen to an inner voice, but it may equally be true that that was the last lesson that bridget was here to teach you: to believe in that voice the next time. sometimes we only learn that sort of lesson this hardest way. i think that we try to take the blame for things because it's easier to think that we could have done something differently, changed outcomes, than to accept that we are, in many many situations, powerless. the healthiest cat can die from a simple surgery, or a undetected wound, or some genetic glitch we had no idea existed in its DNA soup. all we can do, for any of those in our lifes, regardless of species, is love them to the best of our ability, and know that every minute is a gift. GLOW to guide Bridget across the bridge, where she was met by many others who have gone before her. and as many others have said, she WILL come to you when the most intense pain has diminished a bit. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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but you needed a powerful reminder to trust those instincts, and now you have one. you will NEVER forget this experience, and you will honor bridget's memory every time you listen to them throughout the rest of your life. and bridget, like all cats, knows you did you best, and understands that you're only human. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Bridget will talk to you when the time is right. Two months after Demon and Sheba passed, they sent me a kitten. Not just any kitten, but a special needs kitten. He had been abandoned under my house, and we found a little black streak flying off the front porch where we keep dry food for our outdoor friends when we pulled in the driveway a couple consecutive August afternoons. So I put the humane trap out with some wet food in it, and, just like clockwork, two days later we had a small black furry bundle, about 8 weeks old. Turned out he tested positive for FeLV. Not wanting to put the little guy to sleep, we decided to keep him in the bathroom for three months and retest him. That was when I started to educate myself about FeLV, and hence why I am here to console you about your loss now. Funny how life works, eh? Three months later, he retested positive for FeLV, and FIV as well. Plus, he has a slight birth defect in the back where he is not in 100% control of either his tail, his sphincter, or his bladder. He's gotten much better as he's gotten older, but there were days when we struggled with keeping him, because we were changing the sheets and blankets on the bed once or twice a day. Even today (9 months), he gets shut in the bathroom at night lest he cuddle with Daddy and get so relaxed he pees in the bed during the night. How many others would just put him down? Or put him outside, to further the FeLV population? Demon sent Junior to me because he knew this special Daddy's boy needed someone to take care of him. He couldn't have told me any clearer with an old, raspy meow. Bridget will talk to you, when the time is right. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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hey, jeff, over at www.handicappedpet.net there are all sorts of tutorials on how to do, pee and poop on demand, and the proper use of diapers for a few hours a day--many of you remember mari, SpiritCat, from TX. she's got a number of potty-compromised babies herself... (gee, you aren't in SC, are you? we need a temporary home for a little 3-year-old recovering from a car accident--she's currently bladder-incontinent but is expected to recover function, but her parents' schedule keeps them from being to regularly express her) we are all here to learn--and it's amazing what directions the teachings take. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I am very glad you spoke to someoneplease let us know what you hear from Bridget. The morning after Keisha died I felt and heard (she purred constantly and loudly) her glued next to me in bed in those first seconds before reality slams into your consciousness. I know she was sleeping with me one last time. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead You might be right about that. I know a woman who's a medium, and when we spoke last night she said that Bridget was sent to me to give me two lessons: one, to learn to let go; and two, to trust my instincts more. Well, that's great, but if I'd trusted my instincts she'd still be alive! She also said that Bridget doesn't blame me and she is very happy on the other side, but will come back to me three days after her death (Saturday). --- On Fri, 3/19/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 12:28 PM please, please remember that we do the very best we can at the moment, with the information at hand. you know, and bridget knows, that you would NEVER have done anything willingly to hurt her. you did what you thought was best, in her best interest. it may be true that you choose not to listen to an inner voice, but it may equally be true that that was the last lesson that bridget was here to teach you: to believe in that voice the next time. sometimes we only learn that sort of lesson this hardest way. i think that we try to take the blame for things because it's easier to think that we could have done something differently, changed outcomes, than to accept that we are, in many many situations, powerless. the healthiest cat can die from a simple surgery, or a undetected wound, or some genetic glitch we had no idea existed in its DNA soup. all we can do, for any of those in our lifes, regardless of species, is love them to the best of our ability, and know that every minute is a gift. GLOW to guide Bridget across the bridge, where she was met by many others who have gone before her. and as many others have said, she WILL come to you when the most intense pain has diminished a bit. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This woman uses an animal communicator herself, so I'm going to look into doing that. I'm afraid I'll never reach closure on this one unless I make an extra effort. It's horrible when any of them die - but with Frosty Paws Baby Girl, at least I understood WHY. Frosty had a lymphosarcoma and Baby Girl, well, Baby Girl finally failed after two good years like so many of them do. I just need to know what happened. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If you were good at trusting your instincts you would not have needed Bridget. You would have missed the pain you are in now but you would never have had the wonderful pleasure of knowing Bridget. On Mar 19, 2010, at 1:21 PM, LauraM wrote: You might be right about that. I know a woman who's a medium, and when we spoke last night she said that Bridget was sent to me to give me two lessons: one, to learn to let go; and two, to trust my instincts more. Well, that's great, but if I'd trusted my instincts she'd still be alive! She also said that Bridget doesn't blame me and she is very happy on the other side, but will come back to me three days after her death (Saturday). --- On Fri, 3/19/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 12:28 PM please, please remember that we do the very best we can at the moment, with the information at hand. you know, and bridget knows, that you would NEVER have done anything willingly to hurt her. you did what you thought was best, in her best interest. it may be true that you choose not to listen to an inner voice, but it may equally be true that that was the last lesson that bridget was here to teach you: to believe in that voice the next time. sometimes we only learn that sort of lesson this hardest way. i think that we try to take the blame for things because it's easier to think that we could have done something differently, changed outcomes, than to accept that we are, in many many situations, powerless. the healthiest cat can die from a simple surgery, or a undetected wound, or some genetic glitch we had no idea existed in its DNA soup. all we can do, for any of those in our lifes, regardless of species, is love them to the best of our ability, and know that every minute is a gift. GLOW to guide Bridget across the bridge, where she was met by many others who have gone before her. and as many others have said, she WILL come to you when the most intense pain has diminished a bit. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I don't think she's fine, at all. When I went into my garage, where I keep my positives and my turtles, the air was so thick in there I couldn't stand it. I started hyperventilating and I felt sick. As you all know, I've lost a few cats to FeLV and this hasn't happened before. I'm telling you, this was either intentional or it was negligence, and Bridget knows this. I'll never be able to prove it, I'm aware of that, but I know it in my heart. I found out last night that the same vet nearly killed a friend's cat by giving too much anesthesia. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Laura, what a tragic turn of events!!! I am so sorry for all you have had to endure recentlyour hearts break with yours. Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:45:50 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I totally understand feeling guilty - been there. Sometimes even when your head knows it isn't your fault but your heart says differently. Please do not beat yourself up over it - it is not your fault. Your love for Bridget (and your other cats) is evident in your email. She and they were very lucky to have you - and I know you feel lucky that you had them. I am very sorry for your losses. Anita _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I understand your pain. I took my 17-year old into the vet last June 15th because he was very old and fragile, and refused food that morning. He had separated himself from the pride, self-exiling to the living room weeks before. The technician detected a wheeze - he had been wheezing for years. He was 17, after all. So the technician told me that he would take Demon in back and put him on some oxygen until the doctor could look him over. He yowled as she took him away, and for once in my life, my cat senses failed me. Moments later, the doctor came into the room to tell me that Demon had arrested on the exam table, and there was nothing they could do. Before I had even had a chance to thank him for all the joy he had given me, to honor him by holding him as he passed - all of that was taken away from the two of us. It is hard to not think, If I had only... Blaming oneself seems natural, when the result is the loss of one of our close family members. And make no mistake, that's what the furbabies we take into our lives quickly become. (I am crying as I am writing this.) But do not let an unfortunate accident diminish the bond you had with your fur-daughter, however short it may have been. Cherish what time you had together, and what you learned from her. Take what she taught you into the future with you, for while it still hurts right now, eventually there will be another furry relationship, and the things you have learned with Bridget will provide you with invaluable lessons for the future. For the kitties, Jeffrey Mills ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I never got to say goodbye. I handed her over and left her with strangers and left her to die without me. I don't know how long she'd been dead before the vet bothered calling - I left as soon as I got word it only takes 15 minutes to get there, and she was stone cold and stiff as a board. This will haunt me for the rest of my life. --- On Thu, 3/18/10, Jeff Mills jeffkmi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jeff Mills jeffkmi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 6:39 PM I understand your pain. I took my 17-year old into the vet last June 15th because he was very old and fragile, and refused food that morning. He had separated himself from the pride, self-exiling to the living room weeks before. The technician detected a wheeze - he had been wheezing for years. He was 17, after all. So the technician told me that he would take Demon in back and put him on some oxygen until the doctor could look him over. He yowled as she took him away, and for once in my life, my cat senses failed me. Moments later, the doctor came into the room to tell me that Demon had arrested on the exam table, and there was nothing they could do. Before I had even had a chance to thank him for all the joy he had given me, to honor him by holding him as he passed - all of that was taken away from the two of us. It is hard to not think, If I had only... Blaming oneself seems natural, when the result is the loss of one of our close family members. And make no mistake, that's what the furbabies we take into our lives quickly become. (I am crying as I am writing this.) But do not let an unfortunate accident diminish the bond you had with your fur-daughter, however short it may have been. Cherish what time you had together, and what you learned from her. Take what she taught you into the future with you, for while it still hurts right now, eventually there will be another furry relationship, and the things you have learned with Bridget will provide you with invaluable lessons for the future. For the kitties, Jeffrey Mills ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wait, calm yourself, and, when the time is right, talk to Bridget. She will talk back to you when it is right. Honest. On Mar 18, 2010, at 6:31 PM, LauraM wrote: I never got to say goodbye. I handed her over and left her with strangers and left her to die without me. I don't know how long she'd been dead before the vet bothered calling - I left as soon as I got word it only takes 15 minutes to get there, and she was stone cold and stiff as a board. This will haunt me for the rest of my life. --- On Thu, 3/18/10, Jeff Mills jeffkmi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jeff Mills jeffkmi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 6:39 PM I understand your pain. I took my 17-year old into the vet last June 15th because he was very old and fragile, and refused food that morning. He had separated himself from the pride, self-exiling to the living room weeks before. The technician detected a wheeze - he had been wheezing for years. He was 17, after all. So the technician told me that he would take Demon in back and put him on some oxygen until the doctor could look him over. He yowled as she took him away, and for once in my life, my cat senses failed me. Moments later, the doctor came into the room to tell me that Demon had arrested on the exam table, and there was nothing they could do. Before I had even had a chance to thank him for all the joy he had given me, to honor him by holding him as he passed - all of that was taken away from the two of us. It is hard to not think, If I had only... Blaming oneself seems natural, when the result is the loss of one of our close family members. And make no mistake, that's what the furbabies we take into our lives quickly become. (I am crying as I am writing this.) But do not let an unfortunate accident diminish the bond you had with your fur-daughter, however short it may have been. Cherish what time you had together, and what you learned from her. Take what she taught you into the future with you, for while it still hurts right now, eventually there will be another furry relationship, and the things you have learned with Bridget will provide you with invaluable lessons for the future. For the kitties, Jeffrey Mills ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Now I have to say that is odd, they should have called you when it happened, right away when it happened. When I lost my Buddie immediately after surgery. My vet called to tell me she came through surgery just fine but a few minutes later she called me back and told me she had arrested in recovery. They tried saving her but couldn't. With my sisters cat they called while she was on the table to let you us know what happened and kept her alive until we could get there and see exactly how bad it was. They kept her alive for a while to give my sister time to come to grips with what had happened and to make sure she wasn't going to pull out of it. She never showed any signs of improvement and that was when my sister decided to let her go. I never got to say goodbye. I handed her over and left her with strangers and left her to die without me. I don't know how long she'd been dead before the vet bothered calling - I left as soon as I got word it only takes 15 minutes to get there, and she was stone cold and stiff as a board. This will haunt me for the rest of my life. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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PS. I had the same guilt with Buddie, but she was so sick I knew there was a good chance she wouldn't pull through, I spent the night before telling her if she was ready to leave it was OK, it was her decision. I did ask her to let me know she was OK if she did leave ... and she did. Three days after she passed I got up to feed the cats for the last time before I went to bed, hubby was already sound asleep. Went in the kitchen, got the food bowls ready put them on the floor and headed back to bed. To my surprise the exercise room light was on, it was not on when I got up and went in the kitchen. This was Buddies favorite room, she wasn't very social with the other cats and spent a lot of time in there to be alone. I know she turned that light on to let me know she was OK ... I thanked her and went to bed with a smile on my face. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree, talk to her, Bridget will answer you in the best way she can. My Mom and Dad come around on occasion, Dad with the smell of cigarette smoke, he loved his ciggies and Mom with the smell of fried chicken, she came everyday for a month before Bailey passed, I didn't put it together until after he passed, the smell immediately stopped, but for his last month I smelled it every single day and commented more than once that someone sure liked fried chicken. I was assuming it was coming from outside. It was Mom, she came to take Bailey home for me. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Oh Laura, I am so sorry. I highly doubt that the LTCI was a contributing
factor, but I'm not a vet. Some kitties' bodies just can't handle those drugs
and she might have had an underlying problem with her heart that contributed.
I firmly believe that you did NOT kill Bridget; you are a fabulous meowmie and
gave her love and help others wouldn't have. She slipped away peacefully,
unaware and that isn't a bad thing; sometimes we can't give our furkids a
peaceful passing.
{{{Laura
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile.
- Anonymous
From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 3:45:50 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly
under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now
she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby
Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been
the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if
anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe
made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know
whether I killed my cat.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura...you did not do this. Please do not blame yourself. I'm fairly new to this list and I know others will have better insight than I. I can only share that one of my two positives turned blue under anesthesia for neutering. In our case, they were able to bring him back quickly, but I think more animals are lost during spay/neuter procedures than is common knowledge. We discovered Taj was FeLV positive in the pre-op bloodwork. His sister, Rani, also tested positive when we took her to be spayed a week later. She didn't have the same adverse reaction to the anesthesia as her brother, but I know that because of his very near death experience, the vet staff was extremely cautious with her. None of this helps you with the terrible pain of losing Bridget. I am so very sorry. She knew she was dearly loved, and you know that all of us grieve with you. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 4953 (20100317) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
I am so sorry Laura!!! I highly doubt it was the LTCI. You are in my prayers? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:45 PM, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Not really. When I took Dixie to be spayed (we found out later-- before surgery--that she had already been spayed) there were detailed discussions about stress and FeLV+ cats and which was more stressful, surgery or going through heat at least twice a year. And my vets were not in favor of euthanizing any healthy cat whether she was FeLV+ or not. They laid it on the line including her possible problems and less than lengthy life and, more importantly, how she was very healthy then. They feel, and I agree, that all the cards should be on the table. My regular vets were 2 1/2 hours away from the two little ones who left this world. They suspect that there were underlying issues. On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:00 PM, LauraM wrote: It wasn't my regular vet - it was the spay/neuter vet who comes to the shelter where I work. He's altered many of my cats and they've all come through fine. But this vet also thinks all cats with FeLV should be euthanized. He's entitled to his opinion. But it was odd this morning when I dropped her off - he said You know, this can stress out a cat with leukemia bring on symptoms. I'm just letting you know so you don't blame me if something happens. Well, yeah, we all know you need to keep these cats away from stress. How many cats have I had spayed or neutered with FeLV they've been OK? Does this sound suspicious or what? --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:52 PM I am so sorry for you loss. You did not kill your cat. You were being responsible to have her spayed. Your vet knew her history--please do not beat yourself up. I wish there were more words to help. Please know you are not to blame yourself. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
I'm so sorry about Bridget. We lost a cat that was being spayed once, the vet said it was her heart. I am SO sure it was not your fault. All of us that are responsible cat owners have our cats spayed and neutered. There is no other good choice, especially with a positive cat. We all know that going into heat and everything to do with mating puts stress on a cat that is even worse for a positive cat. Please do not blame yourself when you were just doing what you thought was best for her. Sue - Original Message - From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2752 - Release Date: 03/17/10 07:33:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Oh Laura I am so sorry. You have truly had an awful time lately. Please don't blame yourself. I've had a couple kitties die under anesthesia. It has usually been their heart. You are such a wonderful person to take in these kitties have done so much more than most people would have. Unfortunately having these kitties takes a horrible toll on our hearts. My thoughts are with you. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 3/17/10, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:45 PM Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura, sending healing thoughts, energy and prayers to you. You did right by these kitties. There are so many things we cannot control. You gave them love and they had a better life with you than they would have had otherwise...even though brief. Godspeed, sweet Bridget. My beloved Keisha, (age unknown, FeLv-) was my kitty for 10 years. One day she was having trouble breathing. I took her to the ER. The vet told me he wanted to give her some oxygen and that she would be fine. He told me to come back in 2 hours. He called me an hour later and said she died. I had so many questions and guilt and then some days later I realized my guilt and the answers to my questions would not bring her back and I did the best I could. I did request a necropsy and did learn her cause of death (congestive heart failure. I also learned she had beginning stage lung cancer). Knowing what she died of did provide some measure of comfort but didn't change things. My best, Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Oh Laura I am so sorry. You have truly had an awful time lately. Please don't blame yourself. I've had a couple kitties die under anesthesia. It has usually been their heart. You are such a wonderful person to take in these kitties have done so much more than most people would have. Unfortunately having these kitties takes a horrible toll on our hearts. My thoughts are with you. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 3/17/10, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:45 PM Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
This really bothers me. For the past week I've had an awful premonition that I shouldn't spay her, that she would die during surgery. I had a bad, bad feeling. No reason behind it, the thought just kept intruding. I ignored it and figured I was just worrying too much. It reminds me of something that happened a few years back. I had a day off in the middle of the week, it was springtime, I decided I would go to a nature preserve near my house to look for salamanders. Anyway, about a week before I planned to go, I began seeing a newspaper headline in my head: Hiker finds body in woods. The feeling was very disturbing and very, very strong. The day of my little trip came, and I was so freaked out I didn't go. A few days later I opened up the paper and what did I see? Hiker finds body in woods. At the nature preserve I planned to visit. In the very same spot I thought I'd find salamanders. It was a mentally ill man who had suffered from an apparent heart attack and died. This time I didn't trust my gut and look what happened. It is my fault. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura, I am so sorry to read about Bridget. We do the best we can with the knowledge we have. Normally it is best to have any kitty spayed/neutered. Unfortunately there is always a risk with anesthesia. My heart goes out to you. Sharyl --- On Wed, 3/17/10, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:45 PM Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura, you are obviously blessed with strong intuitive thought. I am so sorry that you are having these feelings that Bridget's passing is your fault. I know you will trust your gut in the future. For now, please try to forgive yourself. When I don't act or do act in opposition to my gut and something bad happens, all I can do is learn to listen better the next time. That is ALL I can do at that point. I have so many regrets about not doing what, in hindsight, I think I should have, but I cannot live there or it will kill me or make me sick. Bridget needs your positive energy to get where she is going. I am sending energy to you.for some peace in your heart and for self forgiveness. God bless you. You did what you thought was the right thing. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead This really bothers me. For the past week I've had an awful premonition that I shouldn't spay her, that she would die during surgery. I had a bad, bad feeling. No reason behind it, the thought just kept intruding. I ignored it and figured I was just worrying too much. It reminds me of something that happened a few years back. I had a day off in the middle of the week, it was springtime, I decided I would go to a nature preserve near my house to look for salamanders. Anyway, about a week before I planned to go, I began seeing a newspaper headline in my head: Hiker finds body in woods. The feeling was very disturbing and very, very strong. The day of my little trip came, and I was so freaked out I didn't go. A few days later I opened up the paper and what did I see? Hiker finds body in woods. At the nature preserve I planned to visit. In the very same spot I thought I'd find salamanders. It was a mentally ill man who had suffered from an apparent heart attack and died. This time I didn't trust my gut and look what happened. It is my fault. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura, I am very sorry. I hope your guily will ease up. You did everything right. Bridget knows you love her. Sally Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Felvtalk mailing list -- Sally(me), Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Lionel(angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black(MIA), Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior, Hotdog (newest) Silver, and Spike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Hey Laura, Your subject line really caught me - I've recently lost a cat named Bridget and she was the best, smartest cat. Bridget is a wonderful name and thank god she had one. I don't know what LTCI is and am hoping someone explains it. I relocated a feral cat named Molly to my yard and for years, she did really well, never leaving. She loved to hang out with us on our deck. Then she found a friend, followed him, got hit by car. Her beautiful face was smashed and there was no doubt she died instantly, but still, I had to have a vet listen for her heart hours later, to be sure, even tho it was so obvious she was gone. Looking back, I think my asking for vet to listen for heart beat was shock and disbelief on my part We all blame ourselves at first when something so unexpected happens, it must be human nature. It's terribly stressful for these cats to go into heat over and over (I think more than twice a year) and the possibility of an infected uterus or mammary cancer is very real, I know, I've seen enough of it. I hope you realize sooner than later you were doing what was right for Bridget, and keep on helping others. The very best to you, Janine From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 9:41:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Laura, I am so sorry to read about Bridget. We do the best we can with the knowledge we have. Normally it is best to have any kitty spayed/neutered. Unfortunately there is always a risk with anesthesia. My heart goes out to you. Sharyl --- On Wed, 3/17/10, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:45 PM Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Yes it does: But it was odd this morning when I dropped her off - he said You know, this can stress out a cat with leukemia bring on symptoms. I'm just letting you know so you don't blame me if something happens. Well, yeah, we all know you need to keep these cats away from stress. How many cats have I had spayed or neutered with FeLV they've been OK? Does this sound suspicious or what? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Overdosing with anesthesia could easily be considered an accident. I'm so sorry this happened, whatever the reason it certainly wasn't in any way your fault and being human we are raised to respect people in authority and wouldn't think a professional would purposely do harm to someone in their charge ... but it happens and as unsavory as it may be it is entirely possible this vet is a bad egg. Being in his position of power he probably isn't too worried anyone is going to come after him. I've read enough horror stories about vets who have taken an oath to do no harm to our pets being monsters, it is *rare* but it does happen. Just out of curiosity is there any way to find out how many other positives he has had in his care have passed if there are any? It may be entirely that her body just couldn't handle the procedure, the stress, anesthesia or some other part of it, but I would absolutely be suspicious knowing this vet thinks all FeLV+ cats should be euthanized and then saying what he said about things possibly going wrong and then my furkid just happens to die. Sorry, sounds fishy to me. There probably isn't anything that can be done except never take another positive cat to this vet and if it were me, I wouldn't ever take any cat to him for anything again. If something was done you can rest assured it wasn't your fault in any way and Bridget is safe and OK where she is and if this vet did do something wrong, he will pay whether here or beyond, he will answer for all the things he did that were wrong and/or evil. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Remember the cat who I had PTS a little over a month ago, Frosty Paws? That cat had been neutered by the same vet, who'd wanted to euthanize him very reluctantly did the surgery. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Well, if he did another positive and he came through OK, then I would say it probably was just something that she physically wasn't able to handle ... maybe there was an underlying heart issue or some other issue that was unknown. My sisters cat had something very similar happen, she was healthy as far as anyone knew but her cyst ruptured during surgery and she went into cardiac arrest and didn't get oxygen for too long, she was alive but her brain function was gone. It killed my sister to give the OK for them to let her go, it was her first furkid and she was only 6 years old going in for a pretty much routine surgery. It seems Bridget knew it was her time as was trying to let you know, but you are seeing it as guilt in not stopping something that was probably suppose to happen the way it did, she must have been done teaching and learning what she needed to here and was ready to go back to spirit. I know it doesn't sound like I believe in these things most of the time, I do but I still also fight fiercely for every second of life here which makes it very hard to come to terms with death being a continuation of life in our other form, quite a war waging in me sometimes. But please know, your premonition wasn't to make you feel like there was something you could do about what was probably meant to be, if she hadn't had the surgery and it was her time she would have passed a different way, sometimes there isn't anything we can do to stop life here from ending ... but it only ends in the physical for us left here which makes it seem so final when in reality we go on without limitations once we leave these physical bodies. Bridget doesn't want you to feel anything but the love she still has for you and to know she is fine and no longer limited by the restrictions our physical lives put on us. I hope she will visit you in a dream or some other way that will make it clear to you it is her and you can get comfort from that. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
