Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
Thank you all for your words of advice and for informing me about the stomatitis group, I have learned a lot just from reading their posts. After hearing what everyone has said and after all the research I've done - I believe having Bea's teeth extracted will be best for her. As with any decision I just need to get past my own fears and think of what is best for her in the long run. Karen M - For as much as I trust my vet, I would not have them do the full extraction. My vet referred me to the specialist because like she said - Would you go to your family dr to have all your teeth pulled? However, it is very, very expensive - a lot more than I even thought but it's what needs to be done. Right now Bea's surgery is tentatively scheduled for Dec 4th so I will keep everyone posted. Thanks again. Dawn - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
My sister's cat had stomatitis...partial extraction donehe did fine with the missing teeth, but had occasional flareups that were treatedsteroids and I'm sorry I can't remember the antibiotic...clindamyacin?Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:04:32 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
My Mickey (now negative) had all his teeth, which were rotten, extracted last year---he's still a chubby, feisty little feral. His behavior hasn't changed. My understanding is that after the first few days of recuperation cats generally adjust well. There is always a degree of risk (as with humans) in the anesthesia required for dental. Four of mine have had dentals, some more than once; all came thru unscathed. My vet always calls immediately it's over to let me know all ok. Also, see below, sent recently by former listmember Nina. Good luck to Bea! This is interesting. My sister just called to tell me she heard on the radio about a study indicating that yogurt consumption aids in reducing gingivitis and periodontal disease. I'm hoping it might make some difference in felv kitties gingivitis, maybe even stomatitis. In any case it seems like something that might be tried under the It can't hurt rule. I'm going to start eating more yogurt just in case it may help my mouth. Could one of you please pass this on to the list just in case? I did a quick Goggle and came up first with this home remedy site: http://www.savvynaturalhealer.com/2008/02/fight-gum-disease-with-yogurt.html From Japan's Kyushu University comes a report of a new study published in this month's Journal of Periodontology that finds that eating yogurt may prevent gum disease. The scientists learned that eating at least two ounces (56 g) of foods cultured with the friendly bacterium Lactobacillus significantly reduced the risk of severe gingivitis, that is, with pockets more than 2 mm (about 1/10 of an inch) deep in the gums. The benefits of Lactobacillus held even when the researchers accounted for differences in age, gender, frequency of tooth brushing, blood sugar levels, cholesterol levels, smoking, and alcohol consumption. What the scientists did not find was a protective role for consumption of milk and cheese. These foods seem to feed the bacteria that attack the gums. Only yogurt and similar foods were helpful. It's well known that acidity produced by Lactobacilli kills E. coli, Campylobacter, and Salmonella. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
Coco has had most of her teeth removed (gradually ~ over 10 years) due to gingivitis. She needs annual cleanings. The vet feels her mouth is in good shape now and that she won't need more extractions. This sounds like a very extreme solution, though he IS a specialist. The pain after one extraction is bad. I can't imagine an entire mouth. A friend has a cat with stomatitis. She gives her some med the first 5 days of each month and this is working well. Good luck. A difficult dilemma. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
Dawn, There is a Yahoo Stomatitis group you can join. I'm not sure how active it is but they probably have good info in their files. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Stomatitis/ My CRF,CHF, HCM kitty had severe periodontal disease. Due to his other health issues I put off dental surgery until it was either surgery or PTS. He was in that much pain. I gave his vets this protocol to follow for the surgery since I don't have a dental vet in my area. http://www.felinecrf.org/related_diseases.htm#dental_precautions He came through the surgery with flying colors. Had 4 teeth extracted. My biggest regret is we waited so long to do the surgery. It is my understating that kitties do just fine with an extraction of all their teeth eating either canned food or dry food. It's not like she'll have to catch prey and rip them up with her teeth. Sharyl --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 12:04 PM I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
Yes, I should have added that--that my vet always gives painkillers after extractions. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed Coco has had most of her teeth removed (gradually ~ over 10 years) due to gingivitis. She needs annual cleanings. The vet feels her mouth is in good shape now and that she won't need more extractions. This sounds like a very extreme solution, though he IS a specialist. The pain after one extraction is bad. I can't imagine an entire mouth. A friend has a cat with stomatitis. She gives her some med the first 5 days of each month and this is working well. Good luck. A difficult dilemma. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
I have a cat who had to have almost all her teeth to be extracted at one time. (She is NOT leukemia-positive.) She had no problems whatsoever. Came home the same evening (morning surgery) and started eating and has never stopped--she's 19 lbs.. She had no pain at all. - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed Yes, I should have added that--that my vet always gives painkillers after extractions. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed Coco has had most of her teeth removed (gradually ~ over 10 years) due to gingivitis. She needs annual cleanings. The vet feels her mouth is in good shape now and that she won't need more extractions. This sounds like a very extreme solution, though he IS a specialist. The pain after one extraction is bad. I can't imagine an entire mouth. A friend has a cat with stomatitis. She gives her some med the first 5 days of each month and this is working well. Good luck. A difficult dilemma. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
My kitty Tucker had stomatitis and had all but his lower canines removed. He had no trouble at all eating after the surgery. Unfortunately the stomatitis was just another symptom of an immune/bone marrow problem. (not FeLV) I lost him in May, but having his teeth removed actually made him more comfortable in his last months. - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
