Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors. maybe that will make a difference. i know a lot of people i would like to do that to. same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care of children. when i reported a case of abuse, the investigator said that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he checks on, he also turns in a report of child or spouse abuse. i wonder some times would the world be better off without man? doris Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
just the fact that they did not attempt to do anything for him is considered abuse. Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: Oh, Lord, Kelley, these people really have no right to any pets!!! Poor Jack, I hope he didn't suffer too much. I know he knows you cared and would have helped him. The bigger question is whether he can forgive his boneheaded people. Gentle Bridge vibes to the dear boy. I know you're trying to be charitable, but do you know if they fed and watered Jack during that time? For his sake I pray they did, but if they didn't, doesn't that constitute abuse, and could they not be reported? Or would that open a can of worms with your own situation that you'd rather not? Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:41 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
even people in wheelchairs can use the phone. she could have called you. i am sure she knows you would take thenecessary steps ad foot the bill if she could not afford it. if i were her, i would have done whatever was necessary to help him. if i did not know how to give subq fluids, i would learn by golly. my Lil Bit had t have fuids recently (high creatin and bun) after 1 and 1/2 bags, and antibiotics, she is doing fine now. it was not easy, but it had to be done. if being in a wheelcair meant she could not catch, hold and administer the fluids, she could ask you to do it for her. i am sure she knows you are a sucker for animals, especially cats. i would help someone with their pets even if it meant i had to go without super. oh, Lord, i am making more spelling imstakes every minute. got to stop, back tomorrow. Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't ask, didn't want to know really. At this point, there wouldn't be any proof. I could say I don't think they fed their dying cat, but he's gone now. I just kind of got away from her as quick as I could. People in wheelchairs don't have all that many options, though she could have called a taxi - she could have come over here and gotten me, except my porch isn't handicapped accessible - but I'm pretty sure I gave her my # . I think we kind of forget that not everyone knows how to syringe feed, not everyone knows how to give subq fluids, but by damn, I came home very early in my rescue career and my sweet Jasmine had been vomiting and had diarrhea all day and was super dehydrated (was shocked it could happen that fast, but it did) - I realized something was very wrong and got her to the er immediately - she had a raging case of mastitis and had to have surgery and was fine after that up til the day she was stolen under color of law by the state..miss her so much. All I can do is spay and neuter everything that goes into their house, and reiterate to please not take animals to the pound, we will work with them to help find them homes if necessary. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote: Oh, Lord, Kelley, these people really have no right to any pets!!! Poor Jack, I hope he didn't suffer too much. I know he knows you cared and would have helped him. The bigger question is whether he can forgive his boneheaded people. Gentle Bridge vibes to the dear boy. I know you're trying to be charitable, but do you know if they fed and watered Jack during that time? For his sake I pray they did, but if they didn't, doesn't that constitute abuse, and could they not be reported? Or would that open a can of worms with your own situation that you'd rather not? Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:41 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
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i'll go for that solution. Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: Or children for that matter, we don't what them bringing more irresponsible idiots into the world, we have enough of those I'm so sorry Kelly. That is heartbreaking. This us why I think people should have to take a test for competency before they are allowed pets. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
BUT, they amke it so hard for us to be forgiving and wanting to help them. MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: i'm so sorry, hon, for jack, for all the others that these folks will harm due to their ignorance--intentional or not--and for you continuing to have to deal with it. it's important, tho, for us to remember that none of us were born knowing how to recognize the signs of anemia, or how to do sub-q fluids in our sleep in the middle of the night, or that FeLV and FIV aren't transmitted over the airwaves far and wide--and that part of our jobs here, whether we remember signing up or not, is to continue to educate those who seem least interested in being educated. SOMEONE, somewhere, will listen, and hear us, and carry on the message it's a dirty job, and you know the rest of the line MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
fewer homes for more animals can only be solved oe way. responsible pet ownership means spay and or neuter. don't becomes a part of the problem, be a part of the solution. Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry Kelly. That is heartbreaking. This us why I think people should have to take a test for competency before they are allowed pets. Sharyl, that's a nice idea in theory, but do you know how many animals are killed every year? Fewer homes mean more of them. I did ask how Jack was every time I saw them and they always said fine. Sigh. Back to sweet Jack. Will light a candle for him to help guide him to the Rainbow Bridge where he will be disease free. You did what you could for him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:40 AM First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Kelley, I'm so sorry to hear this. I just hate people like that. I try not to, but I do. tonya --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:40 AM First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I didn't ask, didn't want to know really. At this point, there wouldn't be any proof. I could say I don't think they fed their dying cat, but he's gone now. I just kind of got away from her as quick as I could. People in wheelchairs don't have all that many options, though she could have called a taxi - she could have come over here and gotten me, except my porch isn't handicapped accessible - but I'm pretty sure I gave her my # . I think we kind of forget that not everyone knows how to syringe feed, not everyone knows how to give subq fluids, but by damn, I came home very early in my rescue career and my sweet Jasmine had been vomiting and had diarrhea all day and was super dehydrated (was shocked it could happen that fast, but it did) - I realized something was very wrong and got her to the er immediately - she had a raging case of mastitis and had to have surgery and was fine after that up til the day she was stolen under color of law by the state..miss her so much. All I can do is spay and neuter everything that goes into their house, and reiterate to please not take animals to the pound, we will work with them to help find them homes if necessary. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote: Oh, Lord, Kelley, these people really have no right to any pets!!! Poor Jack, I hope he didn't suffer too much. I know he knows you cared and would have helped him. The bigger question is whether he can forgive his boneheaded people. Gentle Bridge vibes to the dear boy. I know you're trying to be charitable, but do you know if they fed and watered Jack during that time? For his sake I pray they did, but if they didn't, doesn't that constitute abuse, and could they not be reported? Or would that open a can of worms with your own situation that you'd rather not? Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:41 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm so sorry Kelly. That is heartbreaking. This us why I think people should have to take a test for competency before they are allowed pets. Back to sweet Jack. Will light a candle for him to help guide him to the Rainbow Bridge where he will be disease free. You did what you could for him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:40 AM First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Or children for that matter, we don't what them bringing more irresponsible idiots into the world, we have enough of those I'm so sorry Kelly. That is heartbreaking. This us why I think people should have to take a test for competency before they are allowed pets. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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i'm so sorry, hon, for jack, for all the others that these folks will harm due to their ignorance--intentional or not--and for you continuing to have to deal with it. it's important, tho, for us to remember that none of us were born knowing how to recognize the signs of anemia, or how to do sub-q fluids in our sleep in the middle of the night, or that FeLV and FIV aren't transmitted over the airwaves far and wide--and that part of our jobs here, whether we remember signing up or not, is to continue to educate those who seem least interested in being educated. SOMEONE, somewhere, will listen, and hear us, and carry on the message it's a dirty job, and you know the rest of the line MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's awful. Poor Jack. He's in a better place now. Wheelchair or no, your neighbor's behavior towards animals is horrible. If there were any justice she wouldn't be allowed near an animal. Kerry From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:40:57 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry Kelly. That is heartbreaking. This us why I think people should have to take a test for competency before they are allowed pets. Sharyl, that's a nice idea in theory, but do you know how many animals are killed every year? Fewer homes mean more of them. I did ask how Jack was every time I saw them and they always said fine. Sigh. Back to sweet Jack. Will light a candle for him to help guide him to the Rainbow Bridge where he will be disease free. You did what you could for him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:40 AM First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
Oh, Lord, Kelley, these people really have no right to any pets!!! Poor Jack, I hope he didn't suffer too much. I know he knows you cared and would have helped him. The bigger question is whether he can forgive his boneheaded people. Gentle Bridge vibes to the dear boy. I know you're trying to be charitable, but do you know if they fed and watered Jack during that time? For his sake I pray they did, but if they didn't, doesn't that constitute abuse, and could they not be reported? Or would that open a can of worms with your own situation that you'd rather not? Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:41 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
Oh, Kelley, that's awful. Sleep soft sweet Jack, I'm sorry for the suffering you endured. Gloria On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
