Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
In my experience, if the cat is obviously jaundiced, it may be too late to reverse it. That being said, I am NOT a Vet or a Vet Tech, so I would recommend a trip to the Veterinarian ASAP. The Vet may have your friend try liver support/treatment. I had a FeLV negative though who became jaundiced and was unable to recover. I put her down. She was miserable and uncomfortable. She was 7 years old. Good luck =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^= - Original Message - From: Maureen Olveymailto:molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
It may not be just jaundice, it could be hepatic lipidosis, which is very serious! Blood test is a must, and force feeding, fluids (sub-q), and antibiotics are required! I had a cat last summer that went down to 4.5 lbs, to the point where they wanted to insert a feeding tube through nose or surgically into stomach to which I said no, because I knew that I could force fed her small amounts all day long, and she would have been absolutely miserable with any of the two. I mixed A-D with some hot water and meds, and used a syringe. Within 2 weeks, her values were tremendously improved and she made a complete recovery. Hepatic lipidosis happens mostly to female cats. She was only about 1 ½ - 2 yrs old. She is a very fussy eater, and I have finally found the one and only food that she will eat. BTW, her prognosis was grim, and the vets were really surprised how I got her well in such a short time! The poor girl was through a lot, had a litter in the streets (only 2 survived), and we got her when she was already pregnant with second litter too late to abort. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
Vet. Immediately. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
To build on what Natalie has written. Jaundice is a sign of liver issues. Hepatic Lipidosis is cured by food. Please tell your friend to get the kitty to a vet ASAP. Time is of the essence. She can either assist feed with a syringe or get an e-tube to get the calories into the kitty. It takes a real effort to get enought food into the kitty. Many find it easier when using an e-tube. It is not painful for the kitty. Just makes it easier for the caretaker. We say assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting your cat to eat. Please tell her to join the Feline Assisted Feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ They have great files and will offer lots of help. It would be better if you friend joined so she could benefit directly. Sharyl From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice It may not be just jaundice, it could be hepatic lipidosis, which is very serious! Blood test is a must, and force feeding, fluids (sub-q), and antibiotics are required! I had a cat last summer that went down to 4.5 lbs, to the point where they wanted to insert a feeding tube through nose or surgically into stomach to which I said no, because I knew that I could force fed her small amounts all day long, and she would have been absolutely miserable with any of the two. I mixed A-D with some hot water and meds, and used a syringe. Within 2 weeks, her values were tremendously improved and she made a complete recovery. Hepatic lipidosis happens mostly to female cats. She was only about 1 ½ - 2 yrs old. She is a very fussy eater, and I have finally found the one and only food that she will eat. BTW, her prognosis was grim, and the vets were really surprised how I got her well in such a short time! The poor girl was through a lot, had a litter in the streets (only 2 survived), and we got her when she was already pregnant with second litter – too late to abort. From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
She took him to the vet. I think it was Friday. He just said it was because of the FeLV. I don't think he recommended anything but maybe because it's a cat in our foster system and he didn't think we would want to spend a lot of money on it. I don't know for sure. The vet did some bloodwork and said his liver levels were elevated. I think the kitty ate over the weekend but the last couple days he stopped. She's been assist feeding him a little. She was at the store in the middle of the night the other night buying him baby food, sardines, tuna and anything else she thought would tempt him. She finally gave up and made him eat some baby food. Oh, he drank a little kitten milk but didn't want it today. I told her to mix a/d with water or chicken broth because that's easy to get down them. The other weird thing is that now his sister won't eat. She's not yellow or anything but last night and today she wouldn't eat but just laid in her litterbox. My friend will be taking her to the vet tomorrow. I'll tell her not to give up on them yet. I'll tell her to make sure the vet gives both of them sub-q fluids. What kind of antibiotics would you suggest? Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:54 pm To build on what Natalie has written. Jaundice is a sign of liver issues. Hepatic Lipidosis is cured by food. Please tell your friend to get the kitty to a vet ASAP. Time is of the essence. She can either assist feed with a syringe or get an e-tube to get the calories into the kitty. It takes a real effort to get enought food into the kitty. Many find it easier when using an e-tube. It is not painful for the kitty. Just makes it easier for the caretaker. We say assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting your cat to eat. Please tell her to join the Feline Assisted Feeding group.http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ They have great files and will offer lots of help. It would be better if you friend joined so she could benefit directly. Sharyl From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice It may not be just jaundice, it could be hepatic lipidosis, which is very serious! Blood test is a must, and force feeding, fluids (sub-q), and antibiotics are required!I had a cat last summer that went down to 4.5 lbs, to the point where they wanted to insert a feeding tube through nose or surgically into stomach to which I said no, because I knew that I could force fed her small amounts all day long, and she would have been absolutely miserable with any of the two. I mixed A-D with some hot water and meds, and used a syringe. Within 2 weeks, her values were tremendously improved and she made a complete recovery. Hepatic lipidosis happens mostly to female cats. She was only about 1 ½ - 2 yrs old. She is a very fussy eater, and I have finally found the one and only food that she will eat. BTW, her prognosis was grim, and the vets were really surprised how I got her well in such a short time! The poor girl was through a lot, had a litter in the streets (only 2 survived), and we got her when she was already pregnant with second litter – too late to abort. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
Food is the cure for FHL. She needs to get some good syringes and start assist feeding both kitties ASAP. Have her blend a jar of meat baby food (no onions or garlic) with a can of kitten food. If she blends it well enough won't have to dilute with water. Has more caloreis than A/D. What counts now is calories. Sharyl From: molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice She took him to the vet. I think it was Friday. He just said it was because of the FeLV. I don't think he recommended anything but maybe because it's a cat in our foster system and he didn't think we would want to spend a lot of money on it. I don't know for sure. The vet did some bloodwork and said his liver levels were elevated. I think the kitty ate over the weekend but the last couple days he stopped. She's been assist feeding him a little. She was at the store in the middle of the night the other night buying him baby food, sardines, tuna and anything else she thought would tempt him. She finally gave up and made him eat some baby food. Oh, he drank a little kitten milk but didn't want it today. I told her to mix a/d with water or chicken broth because that's easy to get down them. The other weird thing is that now his sister won't eat. She's not yellow or anything but last night and today she wouldn't eat but just laid in her litterbox. My friend will be taking her to the vet tomorrow. I'll tell her not to give up on them yet. I'll tell her to make sure the vet gives both of them sub-q fluids. What kind of antibiotics would you suggest? Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:54 pm To build on what Natalie has written. Jaundice is a sign of liver issues. Hepatic Lipidosis is cured by food. Please tell your friend to get the kitty to a vet ASAP. Time is of the essence. She can either assist feed with a syringe or get an e-tube to get the calories into the kitty. It takes a real effort to get enought food into the kitty. Many find it easier when using an e-tube. It is not painful for the kitty. Just makes it easier for the caretaker. We say assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting your cat to eat. Please tell her to join the Feline Assisted Feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ They have great files and will offer lots of help. It would be better if you friend joined so she could benefit directly. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
I agree, assist-feed is a much better term for “force-feeding”, because one should never force a cat because it only adds to their stress; it’s also important to remain calm because they can sense your stress! I don’t feed as much at one time as is always suggested because I choose to feed small amounts every ½ hour, otherwise they would have been spitting it out. Every cat is different, and there isn’t one technique that fits all – you just have to find what’s right for your cat. I’ve watched many feeding instruction videos, but none of them would have been right for this particular cat, which makes me believe that I should probably post another instructional video for those cats who don’t fall in any of the categories. Actually, I use my technique for all cats, the only difference being how each cat is held, wrapped in a towel, or zipped up in a cat bag. My guess would be that “something” caused your cat not to eat, and the jaundice was caused by it. Good luck and keep us posted! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice To build on what Natalie has written. Jaundice is a sign of liver issues. Hepatic Lipidosis is cured by food. Please tell your friend to get the kitty to a vet ASAP. Time is of the essence. She can either assist feed with a syringe or get an e-tube to get the calories into the kitty. It takes a real effort to get enought food into the kitty. Many find it easier when using an e-tube. It is not painful for the kitty. Just makes it easier for the caretaker. We say assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting your cat to eat. Please tell her to join the Feline Assisted Feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ They have great files and will offer lots of help. It would be better if you friend joined so she could benefit directly. Sharyl From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice It may not be just jaundice, it could be hepatic lipidosis, which is very serious! Blood test is a must, and force feeding, fluids (sub-q), and antibiotics are required! I had a cat last summer that went down to 4.5 lbs, to the point where they wanted to insert a feeding tube through nose or surgically into stomach to which I said no, because I knew that I could force fed her small amounts all day long, and she would have been absolutely miserable with any of the two. I mixed A-D with some hot water and meds, and used a syringe. Within 2 weeks, her values were tremendously improved and she made a complete recovery. Hepatic lipidosis happens mostly to female cats. She was only about 1 ½ - 2 yrs old. She is a very fussy eater, and I have finally found the one and only food that she will eat. BTW, her prognosis was grim, and the vets were really surprised how I got her well in such a short time! The poor girl was through a lot, had a litter in the streets (only 2 survived), and we got her when she was already pregnant with second litter – too late to abort. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
Ask about an appetite stimulant such as cyproheptadine or mirtazipine. I have had feeding tubes put in several times and would never hesitate to get another. Helping Hands in Richmond Va is an awesome low cost surgery, and a feeding tube is only $125 total. One thing to watch out for with hepatic lipidosis is refeeding injury... it can cause major problems! On Thursday, March 22, 2012, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: I agree that this kitty needs to be looked at for lipidosis. My Luc had a bout with this several years ago – he had stopped eating and we didn’t immediately notice, never did find out the reason although the vet suspected a touch of pancreatitis. We had a feeding port implanted in his esophagus, a couple inches from his ear. It didn’t bother him too much, and we were able to feed him watered-down and blundered A-D. Within 2 weeks his appetite was back on track. First he wanted to lap up the A-D goo, and then he started eating on his own again. We had to leave the port in for a while because the surrounding hole had to heal before it could be taken out. Anyway, he made a complete recovery. It cost us quite a bit since the emergency vet in the area was the only one who could put in the port, and Luc had a bad reaction to the anesthetic and had to stay the night there – that by itself was $600 – but it was money well spent to save our guy. He was 13 at the time (and FeLV-). Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice Importance: High It may not be just jaundice, it could be hepatic lipidosis, which is very serious! Blood test is a must, and force feeding, fluids (sub-q), and antibiotics are required! I had a cat last summer that went down to 4.5 lbs, to the point where they wanted to insert a feeding tube through nose or surgically into stomach to which I said no, because I knew that I could force fed her small amounts all day long, and she would have been absolutely miserable with any of the two. I mixed A-D with some hot water and meds, and used a syringe. Within 2 weeks, her values were tremendously improved and she made a complete recovery. Hepatic lipidosis happens mostly to female cats. She was only about 1 ½ - 2 yrs old. She is a very fussy eater, and I have finally found the one and only food that she will eat. BTW, her prognosis was grim, and the vets were really surprised how I got her well in such a short time! The poor girl was through a lot, had a litter in the streets (only 2 survived), and we got her when she was already pregnant with second litter – too late to abort. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
