Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
Carpets? With 30 cats in the house? No Way! I was actually thinking about planting grass on my floor but I cleaned it instead. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump LIKE I SAID WE MUST LOVE THEM TO GO THRU ALL THAT. i HAVE FOUND wORLD'S gREATEST and we all love it. I especially love the fact that it is much lighter than clay and is biodegradeable. I have a lite box compost pit to the east of the house and no smell from it all. It is a bit dusty but so is every other litter I jsut keep the vaccumn out and after cleaning the boxes, suck the escaped bits here and there and pitch them in the trash. Cost is a bit pricey, but it last longer and does not hurt your bare feet when you get up in the middle of the night. ONE WORD OF CAUTION. Blue buffalo has a litter made from walnut hulls/shells. It clumps and is relatively dust free, but is heavy and if you have light colored carpets you might have a problem. I use walnut hulls as a very good dark brown dye. AllI do is soak them in water and they dye everything they come in contact with. I have quarry tile floors so not too much of a problem, but even quarry tile will take the dye. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! Lorrie On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote: This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
RE: carpets I was thinking of people who have only one or two cats in their house and are stupid enough to have carpeting. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Carpets? With 30 cats in the house? No Way! I was actually thinking about planting grass on my floor but I cleaned it instead. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump LIKE I SAID WE MUST LOVE THEM TO GO THRU ALL THAT. i HAVE FOUND wORLD'S gREATEST and we all love it. I especially love the fact that it is much lighter than clay and is biodegradeable. I have a lite box compost pit to the east of the house and no smell from it all. It is a bit dusty but so is every other litter I jsut keep the vaccumn out and after cleaning the boxes, suck the escaped bits here and there and pitch them in the trash. Cost is a bit pricey, but it last longer and does not hurt your bare feet when you get up in the middle of the night. ONE WORD OF CAUTION. Blue buffalo has a litter made from walnut hulls/shells. It clumps and is relatively dust free, but is heavy and if you have light colored carpets you might have a problem. I use walnut hulls as a very good dark brown dye. AllI do is soak them in water and they dye everything they come in contact with. I have quarry tile floors so not too much of a problem, but even quarry tile will take the dye. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! Lorrie On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote: This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! Lorrie On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote: This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ attachment: ~WRD000.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
The standard is NOT to use clumping litter with kittens under 8 months old. Kittens, like human children go through their new world tasting everything, whether it's food or not. Never leave string, thread, paper clips, thumb tacks, nails, even hairbrushes around where a kitten can get his/her mouth around it. Yeah, hair brushes. They love our hair and try to lick it like it's fur and get it stuck in their mouths. They also like to teethe on bristles, which if it's an old hair brush might break off. One of my really dim bulb grown cats likes to chew on the broom straws. Then he throws up. On the nicely swept floor. And never leave bottles of anything around, even things like ketchup. Caps can get loose, glass can break. In other words, try not to live in your house. Live in your closets and remember to close the doors. So clumping litter is deadly for kittens. It's also dangerous for newly spayed and neutered cats. You don't want litter getting into unhealed incisions or open wounds like are on a neutered male cat. Anything that is moist that can cause the litter to clump is bad news.Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie My new email address is: atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out. BethDon't Litter, Fix Your Critter!www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.comTo: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification.Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
Sounds like you have my bunch. For the chewing, I keep lemon grass growing in a pot during the winter months. they love the tste and munch on it all the time. Yes, they do throw up after eating it. Seems to clear out their system and they are back to normal. Cat houses are not normal houses. We have shelves on the walls for them to sit on and they sit on the furniture so we have sheets on everything. Hard to work on the computer, do crafts, especially beads, little seed beads, play a game of solitare (you should be palying with me so I will bat the cards, roll over on top of them). Must be we really love them to deal with all this. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: The standard is NOT to use clumping litter with kittens under 8 months old. Kittens, like human children go through their new world tasting everything, whether it's food or not. Never leave string, thread, paper clips, thumb tacks, nails, even hairbrushes around where a kitten can get his/her mouth around it. Yeah, hair brushes. They love our hair and try to lick it like it's fur and get it stuck in their mouths. They also like to teethe on bristles, which if it's an old hair brush might break off. One of my really dim bulb grown cats likes to chew on the broom straws. Then he throws up. On the nicely swept floor. And never leave bottles of anything around, even things like ketchup. Caps can get loose, glass can break. In other words, try not to live in your house. Live in your closets and remember to close the doors. So clumping litter is deadly for kittens. It's also dangerous for newly spayed and neutered cats. You don't want litter getting into unhealed incisions or open wounds like are on a neutered male cat. Anything that is moist that can cause the litter to clump is bad news. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie My new email address is: atia@gmail.com From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From:Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
I tried that once and then pitched the bag in the trash. Hated it and my cats would not use their boxes. They knew something I didn't. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Just imagine what it does to cats and kittens inside their bodies! Natalie My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump I had this same thing happen when I tried SweatScoop. It turned to cement at the bottom of the litter pan. I had to get a hammer to get it out. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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LIKE I SAID WE MUST LOVE THEM TO GO THRU ALL THAT. i HAVE FOUND wORLD'S gREATEST and we all love it. I especially love the fact that it is much lighter than clay and is biodegradeable. I have a lite box compost pit to the east of the house and no smell from it all. It is a bit dusty but so is every other litter I jsut keep the vaccumn out and after cleaning the boxes, suck the escaped bits here and there and pitch them in the trash. Cost is a bit pricey, but it last longer and does not hurt your bare feet when you get up in the middle of the night. ONE WORD OF CAUTION. Blue buffalo has a litter made from walnut hulls/shells. It clumps and is relatively dust free, but is heavy and if you have light colored carpets you might have a problem. I use walnut hulls as a very good dark brown dye. AllI do is soak them in water and they dye everything they come in contact with. I have quarry tile floors so not too much of a problem, but even quarry tile will take the dye. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Lee, I almost pissed myself laughing.. Been there with the solid block of concrete stuck to the bottom of the litter boxes! Lorrie On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote: This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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-Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store. A 40 lb. bag lasts me about a week. I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days. I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. Over 4 days turns into a major disaster. Of course, some of them think outside of the box. Then it's scrape and mop time. When I get some money (future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has. It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also wired). Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock. I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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World's Best at Tractor Supply runs around $14.00 per bag. But it does last longer than the clay, is biodegradeable and weighs a lot less so I don't get a hernia bringing it in the house. I scoop 2 times a day and add new only when the box gets low so it lasts a lot longer and it seems to track less than the clay and does not irritate my nose like clay dust does. I have tracking only because of Dee, she is an overachiever wehn it comes ot covering. She even goes in the box and covers after others who she does not considerto have done a good job. Harley on the other hand does his thing and does not cover at all. Dee does it for him. I do let them out in early am and early afternoon. I live in the middle of the woods so no people problem, just critters and if they are not out at night, don't have that problem. They usually stay out for 2 - 3 hours and most of that time are on the deck soaking up the sun. This helps some on the litter problem as we do love dry leaves. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net wrote: I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I had tried Feline Pine pellets and my guys did not like them. Got stuck between their pads and they went outside the bos in protest. Also, the pellets disolved into dust and I could not scoop it very good. World's Best makes nice clumps that life out nicely. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store. A 40 lb. bag lasts me about a week. I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days. I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. Over 4 days turns into a major disaster. Of course, some of them think outside of the box. Then it's scrape and mop time. When I get some money (future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has. It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also wired). Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock. I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My kitties don’t care much for the hard pellets either (they prefer the feline pine clumping), but if your babies don't mind it, then that's great! Whatever works and to each it's own :) L -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I had tried Feline Pine pellets and my guys did not like them. Got stuck between their pads and they went outside the bos in protest. Also, the pellets disolved into dust and I could not scoop it very good. World's Best makes nice clumps that life out nicely. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store. A 40 lb. bag lasts me about a week. I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days. I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. Over 4 days turns into a major disaster. Of course, some of them think outside of the box. Then it's scrape and mop time. When I get some money (future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has. It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also wired). Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock. I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using the Blue Buffalo brand now like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so it works out in the end. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leavesless on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have tried every clumping litter out there, I think - I used to like World's Best - but I started not liking the smell when it gets old - it stinks - also two of my kitties developed liver failure and died - during the time I used World's best and I got nervous about whether if corn litter caused the disease - I have been using Feline Fresh - but for some reason, the quality went down hill and does not clump well - (different from feline Pine) - I have been using Blue buffalo - I like it okay - though it gets heavier than corn when clumped, wheat, or pine - smells better - I think.. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:04:57 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using the Blue Buffalo brand now like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so it works out in the end. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have tried every clumping litter out there, I think - I used to like World's Best - but I started not liking the smell when it gets old - it stinks - also two of my kitties developed liver failure and died - during the time I used World's best and I got nervous about whether if corn litter caused the disease - I have been using Feline Fresh - but for some reason, the quality went down hill and does not clump well - (different from feline Pine) - I have been using Blue buffalo - I like it okay - though it gets heavier than corn when clumped, wheat, or pine - smells better - I think.. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:04:57 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using the Blue Buffalo brand now like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so it works out in the end. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable
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I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote: I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Edna You must have a sensitive nose. I don’t smell it when the urine hits the clumping pine. I truly love this cat litter and so do my fur-boys, thank goodness. It really has improved immensely. I just wish Petsmart would not store it on the top shelf. The box is almost twice as heavy as it was before they improved it (I purchase the clumping litter – not the hard pellets in the bag). I hope you and your fur-kids like it just as well, Lorrie. Whatever works for all our fur-babies, right?! L From: Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote: I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org wlEmoticon-smile[1].png___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote: I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I really like the Worlds best cat litter, it's not only flushable but doesn't have that dust either. 15 lb bag lasts me about 3 weeks or so with 2 cats. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We use Tidy Cat scoopable litter and have ever since we got Momma Kat 17+ years ago. We scoop twice a day, everyday and extra if someone drops a bomb. While Tidy Cat does track worse than others, it does not have the dust that the others have. So far, I don't think we have had any issues from it and I am sure the kitties like having a cleaner smelling box. We have tried the wheat stuff, and the pine (OMG, that stinks to high heaven) and some other things but always go back to scoopable. Unfortunately, when you have high numbers you have to use something that keeps your house from smelling like one giant poop. Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:24 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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What I would recommend when dumping and completely changing out litter is to use a plastic pitcher and scoop the litter out into another container, clean the box and then scoop it back and add fresh. Also, if I am working on something that requires me to be bent over for a period of time, I use the: 2 in 1 Large Steel-Framed Folding Garden Kneeler/Seat with Thick Foam Pad http://www.amazon.com/Large-Steel-Framed-Folding-Garden-Kneeler/dp/B004QBMZUM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8qid=1349731118sr=8-5keywords=gardening+seat You can purchase it from amazon or from Home Depot or Lowes and it's great for kneeling on when painting baseboard because the legs act as a handle with which to push yourself back up OR you can sit on it while cleaning and/or scooping litterboxes. It is very lightweight and you can drag it around to the different boxes :) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:24 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good whatsoever ;) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end table. It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no claws!! I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of really weak knees. Whoever coined the term Golden Years was probably not yet 18. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good whatsoever ;) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Ok .Litter topic...I have 60 cats . I use Cedarific...It is light weight...the pellets only breakdown when peed on.I hate clumping...So, pine trees win...Cathy Bronx N Y From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end table. It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no claws!! I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of really weak knees. Whoever coined the term Golden Years was probably not yet 18. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good whatsoever ;) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L -Original Message- From: Lorrie Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 3:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the delightful aroma it would cause if I didn't do it 2x/day or more, as needed. It doesn't matter whether it's dusty or not, clumping litter still contains sodium bentonite, and it doesn't have to be listed on the bag/box. The one and only way of knowing whether it doesn't contain SB, is if it's allowed to be flushed down a toilet; its' a compound used in construction to seal the space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in liquid. It can get into a cat's urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end table. It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no claws!! I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of really weak knees. Whoever coined the term Golden Years was probably not yet 18. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good whatsoever ;) _ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wow! I didn't know that! Makes me reconsider what I'm using in my six boxes... Used to use World's Best but it is also 'world's most expensive'... Got to rethink it now. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the delightful aroma it would cause if I didn’t do it 2x/day or more, as needed. It doesn’t matter whether it’s dusty or not, clumping litter still contains sodium bentonite, and it doesn’t have to be listed on the bag/box. The one and only way of knowing whether it doesn’t contain SB, is if it’s allowed to be flushed down a toilet; its’ a compound used in construction to seal the space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in liquid. It can get into a cat’s urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end table. It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no claws!! I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of really weak knees. Whoever coined the term Golden Years was probably not yet 18. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good whatsoever ;) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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I HAVE 7 CATS AND USE WORLD'S BEST LITTER. NOT CLAY. IT IS BIODEGREADABLE SO CAN GO INTO A SPECIAL COMPOST PIT. MADE FROM CORN SO CLUMPS NICELY AND NO REAL ODOR. I SCOOP 2 x A DAY BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE WHO REFUSE TO USE THE BOX IF EVEN 1 CORNER IS SOILED. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the delightful aroma it would cause if I didn't do it 2x/day or more, as needed. It doesn't matter whether it's dusty or not, clumping litter still contains sodium bentonite, and it doesn't have to be listed on the bag/box. The one and only way of knowing whether it doesn't contain SB, is if it's allowed to be flushed down a toilet; its' a compound used in construction to seal the space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in liquid. It can get into a cat's urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end table. It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, no claws!! I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of really weak knees. Whoever coined the term Golden Years was probably not yet 18. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good whatsoever ;) _ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down the drain or into the garbage. I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 lbs. at Tractor Supply. At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury. The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the cats dig and then track with their paws. Yellow, yellow everywhere. I use a light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop the poop every day. Lots of work. For this I needed a college degree? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That is why I went to World's Best, it lasts longer plus it doesn't weigh as much as clay and can be composted. So far, I have no smell from the compost pit. Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: I really like the Worlds best cat litter, it's not only flushable but doesn't have that dust either. 15 lb bag lasts me about 3 weeks or so with 2 cats. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad stuff. I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80. I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay litter and who uses scoopable. Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter is so bad. Lorrie On 10-08, Natalie wrote: Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, Buyer beware. I discourage all my adopters from using it. Sodium bentonite is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning themselves - or kittens, while playing. People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be the best - and they want the best for their cats! Hartz litter is pretty disgusting, too! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
