Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Immediate treament for any illness should be a given. I am not a hypochondriac but most people aroun here think so because I take my cats to the vet period. Just let them go and they will get over it is their answer. I believe tht I should not let them suffer any more than necessary plus it is cheaper to treat an illness at the start than wait for it to get bad. I would not neglect myself or a child so why would I neglect my cats that I say I love. katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Do NOT vaccinate against FIV - no reason. Healthy cats and FIV+ cats can live together and NOT get infected, unless they fight and exchange blood/saliva! They can live for a very long time, too - but you have to make sure that they get good nutrition, supplements, check their gums and teeth often, and at the slightest sign of a sniffle, immediately treat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Thanks! On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Do NOT vaccinate against FIV - no reason. Healthy cats and FIV+ cats can live together and NOT get infected, unless they fight and exchange blood/saliva! They can live for a very long time, too - but you have to make sure that they get good nutrition, supplements, check their gums and teeth often, and at the slightest sign of a sniffle, immediately treat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Many vaccines may be carcinogenic, be cancer-causing whereas others may cause growths at the injection site. Always check for lumps and remember where any vaccines were injected. I believe that most vets have a system like Rabies on right side, Leukemia on left side, etc. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV
Do NOT vaccinate against FIV - no reason. Healthy cats and FIV+ cats can live together and NOT get infected, unless they fight and exchange blood/saliva! They can live for a very long time, too - but you have to make sure that they get good nutrition, supplements, check their gums and teeth often, and at the slightest sign of a sniffle, immediately treat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV YIKE! I hadn't heard that. Carcinogenic? How? And how/where can I go for more info? I want to stop getting my fur-babies that shot if this is the case. Thanks kat On 9/8/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Absolutely useless vaccine, and probably carcinogenic, too! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV ...and there is a lot of controversy about if it really does help prevent FIV. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating for FIV Right, the FIV vac makes them test positive for FIV. And once their neutered they are not going to fight and give deep bite wounds so no danger of transmitting. Worthless vaccination just makes money for the company and the vet. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV. Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination. On 09-07, katskat1 wrote: Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
