Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On May 3, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself. Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love. Bless your heart, Maureen!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't waste money on her. I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to spend money on her. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering. Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :) I hope she gets better, I really do. Thanks for the update! Lynda - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update. Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets. The kind that looks at her symptoms and says it all FeLV related without doing any test. He said she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's money by doing any tests. I told him not to worry about it because I was paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work . So he did and she doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as I suspected . She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids . I have no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it. I guess because he just wanted me to let her die. Another vet on my blacklist. I guess it's just another cat to him. Won't be seeing that SOB again. It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in contact with a vet at the university of TN that is going to let me try a new drug for the dry form of FIP. It's not on the market yet but the clinical trials look good. I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a difference for my kitten but it's worth a try. The drug is actually an immune stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant. Since my kitten has FeLV in addition to FIP it may not help. But she's going to die anyway so why not try it. She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis. I don't know how much longer she has. I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and treats. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don't help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, do you help people?, which often catches them off guard because they probably don't. I'm so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I've heard of some jerks like that around here.. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. _ From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen _ From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I help both and the kitties are much more appreciative. Chris - Original Message - From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don't help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, do you help people?, which often catches them off guard because they probably don't. I'm so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I've heard of some jerks like that around here.. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. -- From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen -- From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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A lot of times you ARE helping people by helping animals. When you do spay/neuter for low income people or take animals from people who have fallen on hard times can no longer care for their animals you are helping the animals the people. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, “do you help people?”, which often catches them off guard because they probably don’t… I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks like that around here…. Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
I said the exact same thing to my mother-in-law. She's a wonderful person but totally doesn't get the whole animal rescue thing. She loves animals but not like we do. But I think that comment from her came when we were discussing me giving up meat. That was just too radical for her I guess. It's the deep South so what can you expect? They kill and eat anything that moves down here! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:24:05 -0400 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, “do you help people?”, which often catches them off guard because they probably don’t…I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks like that around here….NatalieFrom: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I totally agree! Many people don't have anyone else but their pet and they love them dearly so if you can help them with vet bills, food, or taking the animals if they can't keep them anymore then it means the world to them. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:55:29 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? A lot of times you ARE helping people by helping animals. When you do spay/neuter for low income people or take animals from people who have fallen on hard times can no longer care for their animals you are helping the animals the people. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, “do you help people?”, which often catches them off guard because they probably don’t…I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks like that around here….NatalieFrom: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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You got that right. And they don't turn down the help or act like they don't need it. It's harder to help people because half the time they won't accept your offers of help. A cat or dog would never turn down charity. You put food in front of them and they're going to eat and not be too prideful or act all offended or something like us humans have been known to do. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: c.mac...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:50:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I help both and the kitties are much more appreciative. Chris - Original Message - From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, “do you help people?”, which often catches them off guard because they probably don’t… I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks like that around here…. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400 Ha, ha - I love it!!! You sound as pissed off as I was. Believe me he is on my shitlist too. I was boiling about it for days. Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it. I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die. I don't know. He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP. I didn't give him a chance to send me away with nothing. Course, at the time other than the fever she was doing okay. Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some weight. So she wasn't in any pain. But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway. The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive. He's such a dumbass. I didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her. So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care. He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her. I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her. BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have been just killing her. I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals. I'm going to steal it. Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something. I'll use your answer for those folks. It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean! Maureen From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates me. I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him. Sent from my iPad that my most
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Oh no - I won't be going back to him. Too many other vets in the area. The humane society has several other vets that we use so I don't have to go back to him. He's not even the cheapest vet, although his clinic does give us a good discount. I've got some friends who are vet techs that can give her fluids if necessary. I'm going to be getting some of that new drug to treat FIP. Course I'm not 100% sure it's FIP because we only did one of several test. I guess there's other diseases that can mimic the dry form of FIP. I just feel sure it's FIP though. The newer drug is an immune stimulant so it's not going to hurt to try it anyway. I'm comtemplating taking her to another vet to rule out the diseases that mimic FIP. If I had a money tree in my back yard it would make the decision easy. Seems like I read that toxoplasmosis can mimic some of the symptoms of the dry form of FIP. I should call and check out the costs of whatever test they do to check for that. Course I know this new drug is not likely to help if it's FIP because she's got FeLV too. Both diseases combined make her chances of survival very slim. But I'll have the peace of mind knowing I tried. She's still eating although it's only a little at a time. I bought her some of that nutri-cal to give her extra calories. I can tell she feels better since the fever came down. I'm just spending as much time as I can with her and giving her lots of canned food and some chicken and other extra treats. If it's the end for her we'll just make sure she goes out with a bang. Thanks for your good wishes. Since my dog died in October I'm just not ready for another death. But I don't have a say in these matters. Kind of wish I had stayed with dogs. Fostering them would have been more work but cats get so many infectious diseases that you're constantly having your heart broken. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:06:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself. Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love. Bless your heart, Maureen!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't waste money on her. I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to spend money on her. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering. Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :) I hope she gets better, I really do. Thanks for the update! Lynda
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I responded to this last night, but forgot to erase all the mail attached and it was not deliverable - too large. The clot was more likely in the artery that branches to each hind leg, makes them unable to move them. I've had many cats with this condition, always happened at night, weekend, when my vet wasn't available. Each time, the cat was euthanized at an emergency clinic - some screamed in pain, others didn't. The last one was found in one of our large cat condos for feral/semi feral cats a few years ago in the morning, not able to move. Corgi was feral cat and I had to throw a towel over him to catch him - he pulled himself around by front legs. My vet dissolved his clot, after being confined in a small area for recuperation about a month, I was able to introduce him to a sweet group of cats - now he is the most lovable, affectionate cat, all cats adore him. He has a slight limp on one hind leg, but that's all. Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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One of my Felk kittens, Orphie has dry form of FIP and using the experimental drug PI - we are seeing some success treating dry from of FIP with this drug - pls let me know if I can do any to help. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: molvey...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:34:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain. I'll write back in the morning. It does look like it's the dry form of FIP. Getting an experimental drug to try. Anyway, more later. Thanks for asking. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to consider FIP. We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue (adopted out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming kitty you could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure. Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted. There is a FIP group, I am on it, here is a link: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ Please know that many thoughts are with you! Heather On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's encouraging to hear. I'll get my PI tomorrow and will start her on it right away. I really hope it helps and buys her a little more time. If it doesn't at least I tried my best and that will help a little when it's time to let her go. It's still going to hurt though. She is the sweetest thing. She's in my lap right now. She must know I'm talking about her. Are you using prednisolone too or just the PI? Dr. Legendre didn't think I should unless absolutely necessary, like to get her to eat. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? One of my Felk kittens, Orphie has dry form of FIP and using the experimental drug PI - we are seeing some success treating dry from of FIP with this drug - pls let me know if I can do any to help. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: molvey...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:34:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain. I'll write back in the morning. It does look like it's the dry form of FIP. Getting an experimental drug to try. Anyway, more later. Thanks for asking. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you so much for your good thoughts. Several years ago I lost a feral that I fed to FIP. It was the wet form so it was easy to diagnose. It broke my heart then too and he didn't even live with me. But he got so weak that I was able to love on him and when they euthanized him I was holding him. That was my first experience with this stupid disease. I joined an FIP group yesterday but haven't even had time to post or look through the files very much. I might join the group you're in too. These groups are so helpful and I've learned so much. Unfortunately I've learned more than I ever wanted to experience, if you know what I mean. I wish I didn't have a reason to read up on FIP. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 18:23:08 -0400 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to consider FIP. We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue (adopted out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming kitty you could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure. Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted. There is a FIP group, I am on it, here is a link: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ Please know that many thoughts are with you! Heather On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Once again, I am so glad I have my vet. He tells me the different courses of treatment and then it is up to me to choose. Plus, he really cares about his patients. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Oh no - I won't be going back to him. Too many other vets in the area. The humane society has several other vets that we use so I don't have to go back to him. He's not even the cheapest vet, although his clinic does give us a good discount. I've got some friends who are vet techs that can give her fluids if necessary. I'm going to be getting some of that new drug to treat FIP. Course I'm not 100% sure it's FIP because we only did one of several test. I guess there's other diseases that can mimic the dry form of FIP. I just feel sure it's FIP though. The newer drug is an immune stimulant so it's not going to hurt to try it anyway. I'm comtemplating taking her to another vet to rule out the diseases that mimic FIP. If I had a money tree in my back yard it would make the decision easy. Seems like I read that toxoplasmosis can mimic some of the symptoms of the dry form of FIP. I should call and check out the costs of whatever test they do to check for that. Course I know this new drug is not likely to help if it's FIP because she's got FeLV too. Both diseases combined make her chances of survival very slim. But I'll have the peace of mind knowing I tried. She's still eating although it's only a little at a time. I bought her some of that nutri-cal to give her extra calories. I can tell she feels better since the fever came down. I'm just spending as much time as I can with her and giving her lots of canned food and some chicken and other extra treats. If it's the end for her we'll just make sure she goes out with a bang. Thanks for your good wishes. Since my dog died in October I'm just not ready for another death. But I don't have a say in these matters. Kind of wish I had stayed with dogs. Fostering them would have been more work but cats get so many infectious diseases that you're constantly having your heart broken. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:06:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself. Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love. Bless your heart, Maureen!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't waste money on her. I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to spend money on her. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering. Glad
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update. Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets. The kind that looks at her symptoms and says it all FeLV related without doing any test. He said she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's money by doing any tests. I told him not to worry about it because I was paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work . So he did and she doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as I suspected . She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids . I have no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it. I guess because he just wanted me to let her die. Another vet on my blacklist. I guess it's just another cat to him. Won't be seeing that SOB again. It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in contact with a vet at the university of TN that is going to let me try a new drug for the dry form of FIP. It's not on the market yet but the clinical trials look good. I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a difference for my kitten but it's worth a try. The drug is actually an immune stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant. Since my kitten has FeLV in addition to FIP it may not help. But she's going to die anyway so why not try it. She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis. I don't know how much longer she has. I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and treats. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so
sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a
vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do
hope that she makes it and is not suffering.
Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you
are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :)
I hope she gets better, I really do.
Thanks for the update!
Lynda
- Original Message -
From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.
Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets. The kind that looks at
her symptoms and says it all FeLV related without doing any test. He said
she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's
money by doing any tests. I told him not to worry about it because I was
paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work . So he did and she
doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as
I suspected . She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids . I have
no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it. I guess because
he just wanted me to let her die. Another vet on my blacklist. I guess it's
just another cat to him. Won't be seeing that SOB again.
It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in
contact with a vet at the university of TN that is going to let me try a new
drug for the dry form of FIP. It's not on the market yet but the clinical
trials look good. I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a
difference for my kitten but it's worth a try. The drug is actually an immune
stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant. Since my kitten has FeLV in
addition to FIP it may not help. But she's going to die anyway so why not try
it.
She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her
hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis. I don't know how much longer she
has. I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and
treats.
Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT
- Reply message -
From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm
Maureen,
How is she today? Any updates?
Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out
one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up.
He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the
shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri
Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of
tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been
able to make it thru surgery.
Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.
Lorrie
On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven
months
old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with
uveitis.
The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not
sure
what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not
bad
enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's
like
she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but
her
back legs give way a little or something when she's walking.
She's
eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play
as
much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a
real
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's
not
as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too.
The
other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she
has.
So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly
in
the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed
as
the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if
she's
anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's
office
was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the
vet
I'd
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't waste money on her. I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to spend money on her. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering. Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :) I hope she gets better, I really do. Thanks for the update! Lynda - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update. Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets. The kind that looks at her symptoms and says it all FeLV related without doing any test. He said she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's money by doing any tests. I told him not to worry about it because I was paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work . So he did and she doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as I suspected . She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids . I have no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it. I guess because he just wanted me to let her die. Another vet on my blacklist. I guess it's just another cat to him. Won't be seeing that SOB again. It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in contact with a vet at the university of TN that is going to let me try a new drug for the dry form of FIP. It's not on the market yet but the clinical trials look good. I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a difference for my kitten but it's worth a try. The drug is actually an immune stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant. Since my kitten has FeLV in addition to FIP it may not help. But she's going to die anyway so why not try it. She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis. I don't know how much longer she has. I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and treats. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Unfortunately this adorable FelV pos. kitten died a week or so later. She was only 6 month old and had seemed fine up to the leg problem. This loss of the back legs seems to be fairly common with FelV cats and kittens. On 04-28, Maureen Olvey wrote: I don't like the sound of this. What happened? Did the kittens die shortly after they lost use of their back legs? Did you ever find out what causes it? I've been telling myself that she'll probably die young and not to be surprised if it happens before she's a year old but I can't help but love her and want to keep her around as long as possible. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Oh no! I certainly hope not!! Are you going to get her tested? Sending prayers your way! Lynda - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
There's no tests for FIP, but you can try nosodes, or calling Dr. Deva Khalsa (purportedly a vet who can cure FIP). Try joining WholeCatHealth for more information. They've been discussing the Winn Foundation FIP studies. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote: ** Oh no! I certainly hope not!! Are you going to get her tested? Sending prayers your way! Lynda - Original Message - *From:* molvey...@hotmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Yes, I remember Fletch having this problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Unfortunately this adorable FelV pos. kitten died a week or so later. She was only 6 month old and had seemed fine up to the leg problem. This loss of the back legs seems to be fairly common with FelV cats and kittens. On 04-28, Maureen Olvey wrote: I don't like the sound of this. What happened? Did the kittens die shortly after they lost use of their back legs? Did you ever find out what causes it? I've been telling myself that she'll probably die young and not to be surprised if it happens before she's a year old but I can't help but love her and want to keep her around as long as possible. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
I don't like the sound of this. What happened? Did the kittens die shortly after they lost use of their back legs? Did you ever find out what causes it? I've been telling myself that she'll probably die young and not to be surprised if it happens before she's a year old but I can't help but love her and want to keep her around as long as possible. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:35:27 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
She's not really walking on her hocks like they say diabetics do. I haven't noticed a lot of drinking either. But I'll definitely have that checked out just in case. The bloodword that was done wasn't sent out to the lab. It was just the real basic stuff like in the vet's office so I don't know if that would show diabetes or not. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:09:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Maureen, Get her to the vet ASAP, it could be diabetesI treated my cat for it for over 8 yrs. Lynda - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:51 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
